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Learn How To Protect Yourself With the Organization for Social Media Safety · The iHeart SoCal Show

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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm Lisa Fox and this is the iHeart So
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  Speaker 1: Cal Show. I met Ed Peisner, who's the co founder
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  Speaker 1: of the Organization.
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  Speaker 2: For Social Media Safety. I met Ed Hi Ed.
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  Speaker 3: How are you, hi, Lisa? How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm so impressed by you. I met you
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  Speaker 1: months ago at this big Boys and Girls Club event.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to our friends at the Boys and Girls
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  Speaker 1: Club in West and Gabriel Valley in East Side. They
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  Speaker 1: had a massive Kindness Is Free summit with about four
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  Speaker 1: or five hundred kids out at the Panda Express headquarters.
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  Speaker 1: And you were such an important part of our day,
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  Speaker 1: empowering young people and teaching them about ways that they
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  Speaker 1: can be stronger and kinder and tackle this crazy world
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  Speaker 1: we all live in, especially when it comes to the
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  Speaker 1: world of social media.
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  Speaker 2: And boy, I.
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  Speaker 1: Am not to age myself or you, but we didn't
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  Speaker 1: grow up with this thank you back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it has its blessings, but boy, it has
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  Speaker 1: its curses. And social media can be a very scary
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  Speaker 1: place for so many young.
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  Speaker 2: People, really for all people.
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  Speaker 1: But your company, your organization, which was started due to
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  Speaker 1: a very personal thing that happened to you and your family.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're all about empowering people, on teaching people
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  Speaker 1: the ways we can protect ourselves from the negatives of
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  Speaker 1: social media in terms of cyber bullying, sexual harassment, maybe
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  Speaker 1: the anxiety and depression that can come from negative comments
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  Speaker 1: or people and your dms, like, a lot of negative
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  Speaker 1: things can can happen because of the access we allow
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  Speaker 1: on social media, and that's what you are here to
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  Speaker 1: open people's eyes about and show how you can help
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  Speaker 1: protect them or essentially how you can empower people to
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  Speaker 1: protect themselves from the negatives that can come from being
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  Speaker 1: on social media.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly, you said it all right there. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: we are a nonprofit. We've and if I could just
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  Speaker 3: I'll get into the story if you'd like. We're a nonprofit.
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  Speaker 3: We were found it eight years ago doing an incident
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  Speaker 3: that took place here in southern California where I live.
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  Speaker 3: And at the time, my son was in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of ninth grade. So what was that The fourteen and
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  Speaker 3: a half year old son was walking home from school
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  Speaker 3: typical Friday afternoon. You can you envision this. He's walking
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  Speaker 3: from school, he stopped at a fast food joint with
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  Speaker 3: his friends that were hanging outside and that particular afternoon,
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  Speaker 3: somebody decided to enact a challenge that they heard on
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  Speaker 3: social media or spread via social media, and they looked
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  Speaker 3: for an innocent victim, not be my son. And this
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  Speaker 3: person walked up behind my son and punched him as
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  Speaker 3: hard as he could, try to knock him out, as
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  Speaker 3: per one of these challenges online and one of these
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  Speaker 3: you know, online challenges, you know, the knockout challenge, whatever
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  Speaker 3: you want to call it. And unfortunately, my son when
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  Speaker 3: he fell, his head cracked on the ground and he
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  Speaker 3: crossed his skull and he suffered a TVI, a traumatic
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  Speaker 3: brain injury. And when I got a phone call that
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  Speaker 3: somebody punched my son, I'll just I drove down with
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  Speaker 3: an ice pack, thinking he had a bloody nose. That's
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  Speaker 3: what I was going to come upon, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'd take him home and we'd be fine. When I
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  Speaker 3: got there, a mile from my house, I came upon
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  Speaker 3: a fire truck and ambulance, some police cars.
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  Speaker 2: So much more serious.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, kid, And you know, my knees got weak.
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  Speaker 3: I ran to the ambulance and the paramedics were telling
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  Speaker 3: me he's got a brain injury, he's got a hemorrhage. Inside.
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  Speaker 3: We have to get him to the hospital quickly. They
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  Speaker 3: have an airflight en route to take him to Children's Hospital,
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  Speaker 3: which has a trauma center. Yeah, and now I'm out
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  Speaker 3: of my mout I couldn't even catch my breath. I
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  Speaker 3: remember this moment kind of like Tunstead still. But I
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  Speaker 3: jumped out of the ambulance and all the kids are around,
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  Speaker 3: and I asked them what happened, and they all pulled
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  Speaker 3: out their phones and they're showing me this video and
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  Speaker 3: to this moment, as I'm talking to you, now, I
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  Speaker 3: can envision this. I just looked at it and I said,
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  Speaker 3: what am I looking at? And it was this video
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  Speaker 3: of this boy walking up to my son, bocking him out,
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  Speaker 3: then Jordan on the ground, and.
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  Speaker 2: This is the boy that your your son did not
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  Speaker 2: know around.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, random, random, different school altogether. And what got to
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  Speaker 3: me was not only am I watching this event, but
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  Speaker 3: I saw all the other kids are watching and sharing
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  Speaker 3: and putting their phones up and then liking it and
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  Speaker 3: sharing it and spreading it. And you know, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: even know what to think of it at that At
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  Speaker 3: that very moment, I just in shock. I remember recording it, yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I recorded it with my phone to you know,
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  Speaker 3: grab it as evidence, and then I went to the hospital.
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  Speaker 3: They flew him to the Children's hospital, and God blessed
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  Speaker 3: Children's Hospital. He was there for seven days in the ICU,
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  Speaker 3: and he did He had a large blood clot between
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  Speaker 3: his skull and his brain, and he survived. He you know,
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  Speaker 3: went through a lot of treatment, and you know, we're here,
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  Speaker 3: we were eight years later. But what came to me
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  Speaker 3: in that moment sitting in the hospital when I was
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  Speaker 3: interviewed by a couple of different news can I just.
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  Speaker 2: Say anger right now? I mean so much anger? Right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you kids filmed it. You kids filmed it,
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  Speaker 1: and you did nothing to help my son. Or you
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  Speaker 1: let this happen and you filmed it and you're sharing
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  Speaker 1: it like it's on main event, but he almost died,
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  Speaker 1: Like it's.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's entertainment. That's what came to me. Why
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  Speaker 3: did the worst moment in my life, in my son's life,
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  Speaker 3: become entertainment? And it really to this moment as I
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  Speaker 3: talked to it sticks in my head. Yep, this has stopped.
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  Speaker 3: So you know I got on this mission to do
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  Speaker 3: something about it, and quite frankly, I didn't know what
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  Speaker 3: to do, but I knew I wanted to turn my
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  Speaker 3: mess into a message and get out there and try
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  Speaker 3: to do something about it. I formed this nonprofit and
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  Speaker 3: the Organization for Social Media Safety, and contacted the assembly
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  Speaker 3: member where I live here in the San Fraim the Valley.
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  Speaker 3: His chief of staff, Mark Berkman, called me back, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, we started discussing what happened, and Mark actually
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  Speaker 3: had known about it already. He saw the video within
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  Speaker 3: a few hours. That's you know, still and viral happens.
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  Speaker 3: But fast forward. Mark is now the CEO of our organization.
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  Speaker 3: He was the chief of staff at the time, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in our area, but now he's the CEO of our
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  Speaker 3: nonprofit and we are all over the country teaching social
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  Speaker 3: media safety education to parents, to students, to administrators at schools,
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  Speaker 3: to teachers, to counselors. To date, we have exceeded over
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  Speaker 3: one hundred thousand students that we have spoken with. As
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  Speaker 3: I touched you right now, I am packing my suitcase
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  Speaker 3: because I'm getting on a flight tomorrow morning at eight
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  Speaker 3: am to go to Florida to talk for a week
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  Speaker 3: at school. So we are all over trying to raise
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  Speaker 3: awareness around the dangers within social media, the world of
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  Speaker 3: social media and how to best respond to them should
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  Speaker 3: something happen. You to adult, it's a parent to child.
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  Speaker 3: Like you said early on, you and I didn't grow
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  Speaker 3: up with this. This is brand new. So how do
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  Speaker 3: you react to something that happened? You know, it's like
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  Speaker 3: my son. How do we And none of us had
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  Speaker 3: those tools, So now we do after years of research
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  Speaker 3: and you know, studying with very very smart people and UCLA,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we collaborate with the School of Education, and
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  Speaker 3: we dug deep into the problems of social media and
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  Speaker 3: their risks and the harms and have a most safely
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  Speaker 3: or avoid them or respond to them should something happen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when you were speaking, and thank you
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  Speaker 1: for sharing your story. And Jordan, how is Jordan doing
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  Speaker 1: these days? Jordan's doing okay.
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  Speaker 3: Physically, Jordan is better, you know, his the blood clot
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  Speaker 3: and all that went away. Emotionally, I think Jordan's got
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  Speaker 3: a long road personally because you know, it lives forever.
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  Speaker 3: That video online is forever, so we'll let ever go away.
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  Speaker 3: I doubt it. It could always pop up again, even
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  Speaker 3: though we teach certain tactics to do. If you have
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  Speaker 3: it on your phone. You could upload that to YouTube
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  Speaker 3: anytime you want. So it's the permanence, right that online
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  Speaker 3: brain injury is permanent, that will never go away. Either.
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  Speaker 3: His brain injury is always something to worry about in
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  Speaker 3: the future, but also something happens to you online, it
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  Speaker 3: happens to you online forever. So the more people watch it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, as I tell the students I speak with
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  Speaker 3: from fifth grade to high school, each like on that video,
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  Speaker 3: where each time somebody is.
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  Speaker 1: Encouraging it's almost like giving it a badge of honor,
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  Speaker 1: like yes, it's okay to do this, this.
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  Speaker 3: Is cool, exactly. And what they don't understand is the
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  Speaker 3: person in the video. They could see the views, they
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  Speaker 3: could think, why is everybody watching this? That's affecting me.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I'm trying to get. I want kids
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  Speaker 3: to think about how their reactions on social media and
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  Speaker 3: things they do on social media impact themselves and others,
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  Speaker 3: because it's not just the person in the video, but
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  Speaker 3: now it's yourself watching something as parting to normalize that
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  Speaker 3: behavior exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And please tell me Ed that the person who punched
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  Speaker 2: her son and gave him that injury, please tell me
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  Speaker 2: he was there was repercussions for that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there was and here's what it is. The way
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  Speaker 3: I could put it this way, since they were both minors, know,
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  Speaker 3: we were not really allowed to talk about that. What
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  Speaker 3: I could tell you is this was he arrested in
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  Speaker 3: charge of the felony because there was great bodily injury. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: the case itself, all the details because he's a minor,
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  Speaker 3: are really not allowed to be discussed. But what came
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  Speaker 3: out of it is Assembly built fifteen forty two in California,
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  Speaker 3: which is also called Jordan's Law law, which we had passed.
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  Speaker 3: Jordan's Law. We had a passed and I talked about
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  Speaker 3: it there. In twenty eighteen, we had Jordan's Law passed
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  Speaker 3: in California, only first law of its kind in the
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  Speaker 3: United States to hold somebody accountable for the act of
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  Speaker 3: filming a violent act and participating in that violent act.
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  Speaker 3: So if you know a fight's going to happen, you
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  Speaker 3: know something like this is going to happen, and you decid, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to film it just to upload it for
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  Speaker 3: likes and shares so I could get some clout on
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  Speaker 3: social media. You as a filmer, now you can be
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  Speaker 3: held accountable for the act of filming.
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  Speaker 2: It look at that and.
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  Speaker 3: You have to check certain boxes. But we had a
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  Speaker 3: law passed in twelve months and it showed is that
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  Speaker 3: the necessity of certain laws revolving around social media. We
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  Speaker 3: need these laws. We need to do better for our children.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
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  Speaker 1: And people need to know it's not okay and that
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  Speaker 1: there are consequences to these types of actions. You know,
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  Speaker 1: when you spoke to at the Boys and Girls Club event,
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  Speaker 1: so many the kids were very interested in what you
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  Speaker 1: had to say and ask so many questions about ways
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  Speaker 1: to protect themselves. Let's go down some of the other
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  Speaker 1: areas that your organization organization for Social Media safety and
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  Speaker 1: by the way, his website social Media safety dot org
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  Speaker 1: is the website, and we encourage you to invite Edge
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  Speaker 1: to speak at your kids' school or any organization. He
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  Speaker 1: is such a powerful speaker and he us so much
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  Speaker 1: information to offer, but talk about the concerns that kids
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  Speaker 1: had about their experience on social media and feeling attacked
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  Speaker 1: at times or violated at times, bullied at times.
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  Speaker 3: It used to be the term we've all heard, right,
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  Speaker 3: cyber bullying somebody cyberbullying me, and that is still unfortunately
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  Speaker 3: happening today. It's just gotten worse. But the harms and
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  Speaker 3: the risks have evolved from what we call social media
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  Speaker 3: motivated violence, which is really what we started this whole
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  Speaker 3: nonprofit about what happened in Jordan. But then you look
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  Speaker 3: at cyber bullying. But now we're digging deeper about these dangers,
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  Speaker 3: such as the mental health risks which we all know
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  Speaker 3: are out there, and we're seeing all these studies come
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  Speaker 3: out now that time spent on social media is affecting
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  Speaker 3: a child child's mental health. But now we're seeing issues
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  Speaker 3: of body dysporfia where kids are looking at them their
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  Speaker 3: own they're analyzing their own features, their own bodies, and
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  Speaker 3: not feeling good about what they see in the mirror
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  Speaker 3: because they're comparing it to what they see online. And
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  Speaker 3: you and I both know what we see online as
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  Speaker 3: usually curated or filtered or edited.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of filters out there, especially my age group,
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  Speaker 1: they do a lot of filtering.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean listen, when I get on a
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  Speaker 3: zoom call that asked me do you want touch up
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  Speaker 3: your appearance?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, no, yeah, You're like, this is me,
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  Speaker 2: this is what I look like. What you see is
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  Speaker 2: what you get exactly.
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  Speaker 3: This is me and I'm proud of it. We're also
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  Speaker 3: seeing dangers such as sex stores where kids are being
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  Speaker 3: asked to supply inappropriate pictures of themselves to other people,
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  Speaker 3: and if they don't, they're gonna use images against something
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  Speaker 3: that they have against them, so they're trying to get
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  Speaker 3: more out of them. We're seeing deep sake videos being
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  Speaker 3: made of people and now with AI AI.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the nude right, the nudity stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard terrible stories about this hopping to young people
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  Speaker 1: where the use of AI can appear to make people
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  Speaker 1: look completely naked it's not them and doing things, and
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  Speaker 1: videos of them doing things quote unquote negative, it's not them.
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  Speaker 1: And then the threat for money and the harassment that
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  Speaker 1: comes along with all of these fake videos is just
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  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine happy to.
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  Speaker 3: Our kids exactly, and they're targeting anybody on planet Earth.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is these devices, and I tell the kids,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not against technology. It's a wonderful device that we
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  Speaker 3: have and we're all holding in our hands. However, it
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  Speaker 3: could be used for harm, it could be to hurt you.
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  Speaker 3: So our goal at the Organization of Social Media Safety
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  Speaker 3: is to raise awareness around the risks and then teach
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  Speaker 3: the kids what to do if and when they come
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  Speaker 3: across one of the dangers and the big tactic, the
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  Speaker 3: big tool we try to give the kids for empowerment
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  Speaker 3: is blocking and reporting. So if they come across content
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  Speaker 3: that's bad, or if somebody says something to them or
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  Speaker 3: involves them in some dangerous challenger and they need to
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  Speaker 3: block that person from their feed. They need to block
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  Speaker 3: them from their whatever app they might be using so
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  Speaker 3: they don't have access to them anymore, and then they
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  Speaker 3: need to report it to the platform as well as
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  Speaker 3: a trusted adult. We really want to encourage kids if
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  Speaker 3: they see something on their device and it makes them
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  Speaker 3: feel uncomfortable or sad or any other emotion, they really
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  Speaker 3: need to find a trusted adult to talk to.
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  Speaker 2: About it and take action. Take action.
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  Speaker 1: There are protections and you're not going to get No
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  Speaker 1: one's going to know that you did report, block, report, block,
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  Speaker 1: No one's going to know, Oh my gosh, Katie, Katie
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  Speaker 1: is a whistleblower, A Katie reported block. No, they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to know it's you. It's not going to get
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  Speaker 1: back to you personally, So right, or how does it work?
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  Speaker 3: But with a blocking because it's really important to know
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  Speaker 3: when you block somebody on certain platforms, the other individual
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  Speaker 3: that you blocked, they will know that you blocked them,
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  Speaker 3: and that might create a little bit of conflict, right,
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of you know, the kid comes to
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  Speaker 3: school the next day and says, hey, did you block me?
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  Speaker 3: So there is a way you could hide certain content
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  Speaker 3: so your brain is not absorbing that content, but the
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  Speaker 3: other person doesn't know they're hidden. So there's all these
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  Speaker 3: things we try to empower students' children from fifth grade
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  Speaker 3: to the high school. We want to empower them. We
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  Speaker 3: also want them to know that they're being manipulated by
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  Speaker 3: Big Social. Big Social. You know, their profit is earned
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  Speaker 3: by time, so the more time we are all on
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  Speaker 3: social media, the more profit Big Social makes. So we
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  Speaker 3: really want to empower kids to take their time back,
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  Speaker 3: their time, your time, my time is as valuable as anything,
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  Speaker 3: so we need to take it back from Big Social.
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  Speaker 3: And that's really what we're trying to empower them to do.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a big part of what you teach when
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  Speaker 1: you speak at schools and you go around to companies
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  Speaker 1: and corporations and with a child or a young person
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  Speaker 1: in their life, or like this. You know, this conversation
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  Speaker 1: is on seven iHeartRadio stations. So the more people we
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  Speaker 1: can tell and talk to you about this, the more
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  Speaker 1: people can hopefully be empowered. How do people know, aside
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  Speaker 1: from you speaking at their school, how can people get
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  Speaker 1: in touch with you and your organization and get direct
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  Speaker 1: help or direct guidance?
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  Speaker 2: How do we get it now? Like, how do we
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  Speaker 2: get it now? From you?
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  Speaker 3: Sure? And thank you for asking. The best way would
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  Speaker 3: obviously just be going to our website, which is Social
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  Speaker 3: Media Safety dot org. We have the contact us page
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  Speaker 3: right there. They are welcome to email me. My email
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  Speaker 3: address is right there. It's ed at OSSMS dot org
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  Speaker 3: or at social Media Safety dot org. Schools you know,
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  Speaker 3: usually mid August, which has already happened. Mid August, our
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  Speaker 3: phones light up and people start emailing Heke, we have
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  Speaker 3: you come to our school and speak, which is again
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  Speaker 3: I'm leaving tomorrow, but we have another speaker now that
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  Speaker 3: we're bringing on board, and we're growing that to scale,
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  Speaker 3: so we could really get out and speak at the
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  Speaker 3: school everywhere. Yeah, of course, because that is the goal
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  Speaker 3: to get out there and speak at as many schools
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  Speaker 3: as possible. And it's not a one and done. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, you saw a kind of like an abbreviated
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  Speaker 3: presentation for all those kids because it was different age
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: ranges in that group when you were at But we
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: do have it for elementary, middle and high school. We
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: have different modules, so we go out with the like
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: a part one and then a part two elementary.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Are we giving our kids phones in elementary school? No? No, no,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: but they do need to know what's coming.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I would.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: My goddaughter's not going to cell phone until she was sixteen.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: She was the last one in her girl group at school,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: but we wait until she was sixteen together her first iPhone.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: So same because my kids are now in their twenties. However,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: just so you know, we've been getting asked to speak
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: in fourth grade. Wow, so they're getting them younger and younger.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: You know, when we first started, we sixth grades and
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: trowth grade, so then we added the fifth grade. Now
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: they're asking, well, we're seeing so many phones in fourth grade.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: The pushes on like, we really need to make sure
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: these phones are not in the hands of children that young.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: And we know sometimes too, Look, parents want their kids
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: have a phone to, you know, for safety issues and
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: you know, you can have only you can have only
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a certain number of phone numbers in there, and they
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: can only call certain people, and you can you can
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: limit it in the early years. But boy, to arm
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: them with what's to come and the world of social media,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I think is important, right, I guess the information is
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: important to power empower them. The younger, right, the younger
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the better.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we we do recommend it if if
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: a family decides to give their child the phone at
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: a certain age, whatever that age, maybe we do recommend
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: safety software such as bright Canary or Bark, which will
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: help to bring some alerts to a parent should something
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: happen on the other on their child's divite. So there
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: is safety software out there that we do recommend. We
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: also recommend, you know, making sure the settings are locked
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: down for privacy, making sure that they have time limits
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: on their devices that can't use it for more than
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: a certain amount of time. So we make all those
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: recommendations as well. But if you're asking me, you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: if I thought it was I would wait till.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Sixteen sixteen for a phone. See everybody listening.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I know it's hard.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I know it's hard, especially you got these kids at
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: junior high in high school, to lose.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Lose, you know, yeah, to lose lose because you don't
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: want your chovy at all. Owe the moment without a
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: phone that also causes some problem. So we know there's
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: a true trade off there. But safety should always come first.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: And sorry to say, we should know this by now,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: just in life, but also when people online are really
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: begging you for those photos, those risk a photos, those
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: to be used against you. There are people online who
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: want to lure you into doing things that are not right,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and you know you're just kind of I just saw
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I came across the story onst just the other day,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and I thought of you as part of what you also,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you know, wake people up about. Is this this grooming
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that happens online? I just I came across the story.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: It happens all the time, sadly, but it was a story.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I think it was out of Dallas, Texas. But it
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: was a girl who was lured by an older man
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: posing as someone much younger through one of the gaming apps.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So he convinced her. He paid her actually to leave
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: her house. She was fourteen. He paid her to leave
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: her house and he kidnapped her and locked her in
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: a shed and did terrible things. But the mom, Thank
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: goodness for the mom, because she had a feeling that
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: was tied to that app.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: She had her password.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: They got into the app, they were able to track
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: down who she was conversing with, and they got the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: guy and they were able to get her, but sadly
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: after some bad things happened. But this is how they
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: get into these gaming apps. They posed as someone your
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: age and can have some pretty crazy ulterior motives scary.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Stuff of course.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Hello, they're lying.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: They're lying to get what they want, and these are
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: things that kids need to know that we can't believe
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: people that we don't know or just because they say
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: what they want to say online. It's a world filled
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: with deceit and a lot of liars who are using
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: you to get what they want for themselves.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And that's very very ugeous.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Kids. Yeah, yeah, you know, only accept a request from anybody,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter on any app, gain, new platform, whatever
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: it might be. You do not accept a request from
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: anyone you haven't met in real life. And that is
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: a way to protect yourself from what happened to that
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: poor girl you just spoke about. If you if you
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: set that rule and stick to that mantra. I will
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: only accept a request from somebody I have met I
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: r L in real life. Then you could help to
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: avoid what just happened. But you just explained because if
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: she stuck to that, that might not have happened.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: So many stories, but you're you're a big pusher on
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: report block, report block, and finding ways to to mute
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: or hide content you don't like.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Absolutely all, always always block and report anything you want
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: to again, report it to the platform so they could
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: remove it. You know, I always tell the kids, listen,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: if you stumbled across my son's video, I would hope
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: that instead of liking it and sharing it, you would
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: report it so it got removed because you might not
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: ever meet my son. But I'll say thank you right
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: now for doing that for him. And if we all
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: took that attitude and removed some of the bad content
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: that comes across our feed, there'd be less out there. Yeah,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: we have to do that for one another. We are
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: all the same race, we're all as human beings here
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: trying to survive. And if we all just got together
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: and did that, it would help to make social media
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: maybe a little more cleaned up. But to your point,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: will it ever be fully No, but just.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: To not be part of the problem. Let's not be
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: part of the problem.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Let's not be part of the negativity that can come
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: from this massive platform that's worldwide, so right, you could
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: be talking to people from other countries you don't even know.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: People can hide, all right.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: We call them the trolls, people who say and comment nasty, mean, dirty,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: terrible things. Report and block, report and block, and try
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: to get these people out of your world, out of
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: your system, out of your eyesight, out of your mind,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: because you know, these these comments can have such a
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: negative effect on people's psyche and feelings about our bodies
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: and feelings about ourselves. So there's a lot of terrible
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: things that people want to make us feel and do,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and so we want to get those people out. Any
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: other tips aside from just going to your website social
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: media safety dot org, social media safety dot org, any
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: other general tips for young people on phones today.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I would always say, obviously, watch the clock.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: You know, if you want to do a time challenge,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: something that's beneficial and healthy, you could monitor your time
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: in a daily basis by writing it down and create
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: that habit of every day looking at how much time
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: you spent and then trying to lower the number, and
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: that's creating a very healthy habit. So the time challenge
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: is something that we recommend. And also nudging yourself, So
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: setting a nudge on your phone to send you like
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: a little beep or notification when you've exceeded thirty minutes
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: whatever that time is that you've set. But saying to
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: yourself a mantra like my time is valuable, not just
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: in your head. Say it out loud, something I try
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: to tell the students to do. Say it out loud everybody,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: my time is valuable, and starting to repeat that mantra
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: so you could get the time back. I always tell
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: the students I speak to even the parents, there's only
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: twenty four hours in a day. The smartest minds in
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: the world are sitting at these big social you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: big big social companies, trying to take your time and
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: make it theirs. That's their job. How can we get
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Lisa to click an ad?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Hey want to scroll, scroll, keep on scrolling, scroll, scroll, scrolling, scroll,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: and buy stuff.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Give you more dopamine to make you just keep pulling
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that slot machine handle. It's time we stand up and
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: take the time back. Amen. Amen, that's what we have
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: to do, and we have to help our kids.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Ooh, I just remembered something, ed.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe you want to weave this into your talks that
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you do at the schools. Maybe we need to quote
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift just did that whole big thing
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: on the podcast, right and she said how she was
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: kind of commenting on how she doesn't get involved in
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: social media much at all, and she said kind of
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a piece of advice. She said, your energy should be expensive.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Your energy is expensive. I'm not going to even give
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: it the time here and there. I want to announce something. Yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting involved in comments people saying mean things
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: about me.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give it my energy.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here wait, I pulled it up her quote
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: from the podcast that she did the Kelsey Brothers podcast.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: She said, you should think of your energy as if
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: it's expensive, as if it's a luxury item.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Not everyone can afford it. Not everyone has invested in
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you in order to be able to have the capital
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: for you to care about this.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people found that to be a
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: kind of an aha moment, like hmm, she's got something
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: there that's a healthy way to look at it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: You know, I loved what she had to say, and
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: if she is listening to this, she's welcome to come
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: to our gallony, John Taylor, let me tell you call us.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: What she said was amazing. Be intentional with your time,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: and Taylor Swift millions and millions of followers. You can
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: only imagine what is said about her and the way
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: her feed must blow up. Be intentional about what you follow,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Be intentional about your time. I loved what she said,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: and that again, it's it's my goal for as long
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: as I'm on this planet is to help kids get
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: their time back, to have the childhood that you and
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I had. Yep, that's what I hope. Kids.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Can put the phone down and don't let it ruin
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: your life. Don't let other people on these phones and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: out there and this worldwide you know, social media platform.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Don't let them take you down, don't let them get
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: to you, don't let them affect you. Report and block,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Report and block, and reach out to Ed Peisner's organization.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: It's Organization for Social Media Safety, a wealth of information.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: If you can, you can reach out directly through the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: website and have him speak at your school, have him
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: talk to you. Like you said, people can just email
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and ask questions small groups, large groups, and is available
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: for you all the information at social Media safety dot org,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: social Media safety dot org and EDWI.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Such a sweet man, right, married with a whole bunch
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: of kids and five you have a bearded dragon.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, geez, you're a busy guy.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: You get to be on top of trying to save
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the world and help young people online be safer.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I am newly married. We have five beautiful adults as
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I call them because they're twenty one to twenty five.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, great, Yeah, we have.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: A beautiful, blended family and it's a blessing. I am
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: blessed every day I get to go out to a
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: school and speak to kids and motivate them and challenge
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: them to get that time back and be better versions
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: of themselves. And you know, it's a beautiful thing. I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: wish it never happened, by the way, I wish what
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: happened to my son never happened. Yeah, but I am
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: taking that mess and turning into a message and I
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: will not stop until we get out there and talk to.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Everyone yes you are.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: God bless you and thank you for all that you're
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: doing for young people and just thank you phone users
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: and all these young people, so thank you for all
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: that you're doing. Please tell Jordan we say hello, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: all your kids and what's the beard of Dragon's name?
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: What's the beard of dragons name?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Sonny? Sonny? And we have Cooper and we have Honey,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: which is our which are our two dogs?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Very nice?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Well, again, thank you so much, ED for all that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you're doing. And please reach out to ED you too,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Social Media Safety dot Org for all the info yea
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Nay, thank you