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Better Together: Bridging Two Worlds for Cats · Back In The Closet - Two Crazy Cat Ladies

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I'm Jay, I'm Adrian, and together we are.
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That's crazy, ladies, I'm going to cut you.
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I. Think I just peed.
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Buckle up. We're back in the closet.
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To the 6th episode of Back in the Closet with the 2 Crazy Cat
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ladies. You.
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Guys, I'm so excited to be here. We are very excited to be here.
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It's tonight is just the two of us, just the 2.
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Of us. We can make it if we try. 36
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minutes is all we're going to do until we die.
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Well, I don't think that made sense, but I'm a little bit
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sweaty. This is a really exciting topic
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for us. I know that maybe some of you
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guys are like, what are they talking about?
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Yeah, no idea. Better love everyone here.
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We love you guys. Yes, thank you guys.
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Thank you. Oh my God, so many of you guys,
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so many of you guys that are showing up here live on Facebook
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and YouTube. Thank you so much for joining
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us. So let's let's jump into the the
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reason that we wanted it to or the topic for tonight and the
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reason that we wanted to talk about this topic.
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So we have been on, I guess we're on month 3 of, of like
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convention season this year. No, no, it started in February.
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So OK, we're, we're thumbs up and on, on many, many months of,
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of conventions this year. We have been to, it has been
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like, it's so amazing, right? Because we get to dive into
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literally two different worlds is where we live.
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Like we have like 1 foot in one world and 1 foot in another
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world and we get to experience both of them so much and
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especially when we're doing these conventions, right.
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So when so we've been at cat conventions, we've got more cat
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conventions, we've been at pet health conventions and we've got
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more pet health conventions coming.
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So, so we thought, you know what?
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We talk about it all the time. Just the two of us, just the two
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of us. Never get old, we talk.
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About it, just with the two of us.
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We talk about how to how to better kind of bridge this
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because I think and a lot of you guys here, this community is
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growing. A lot of you guys here know, you
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know, you are teachers in the cat community.
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You are the ones that we learned so much from the cat community,
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understanding cats better and all of that, and then the pet
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health community, which is where we started 20 years ago.
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Yeah. We have learned the majority of
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the, the, the specific, the science and the, and health,
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right, the, the health aspects of when it comes to pet health,
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right? Like we learn a lot like the
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majority really when it comes to the, in the pet health.
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But then we're trying to take this information that we, when
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we've been doing this for 10 years, it's our 10 year
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anniversary. We have been trying for 10 years
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to take the information that we're learning in the health
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community. We'll just call it that like
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it's it's full of veterinarians and integrated practitioners and
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and you know, holistic, holistic minded 2 point O pet parents,
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all kinds of the. Industry leaders, companies that
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you know are really coming to the fore bringing.
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Innovation, yeah. It's it's for the health.
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Of our pets. And we say, we say the pet
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health community because it's still is very dog centric.
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So there's a lot in the pet health community that's not
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necessarily. Well, no, we say pet health
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community because it's the pet health community.
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They just have not yet included cats in the way that we, that we
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all want them is the way that we all want them to, right?
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Part of that is because of the cat community too, right?
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Part of that is because of us. So anyway, we, we take all this
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information that we've learned here in, in from our, from our
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pet health junkies, as we call them, and we, and we try to
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translate that into the cat community in which we live,
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right? And which we, we are in our
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souls and hearts. We are the cat community, right?
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Like, I mean, like we are part of the cat community and we
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absolutely love it. But it's, but it's, it's
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difficult. So we want to talk a little bit
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about just like the whole like how to translate and where the
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difference because we, we've kind of gone at this ourselves
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and like dissected it. And so now we just kind of want
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to share some of our dissection. Is that a word?
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I think I think it is a word. Is it a dissection?
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Dissection is a word. It was like in, you know, 8th
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grade science. It was not my favorite class,
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but here's I think we're. Homeschooled.
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At least don't. Does that mean we not don't have
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science class? I'm sorry but homeschoolers have
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all the classes. You still you still had
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dissection class. We had can you hear?
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We had to dissect a rabbit. Right.
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No, I didn't even have to do that.
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Yeah. So no.
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And I was public school. OK, anyway, this is what I
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think. So Jay and I talk about this a
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lot because we will will smile and nod when we're at like some
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some pet health conventions because it's like as much as
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they want to incorporate cats, everything, the science and all
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of it is very much about dogs. And we're like in cats, right?
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But here's The thing is that, and I think so many people in
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this community are a beautiful humans as well in both, in both
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communities, is that instead of we sometimes we do have to like
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bite our tongue to be like, excuse me, we call this pet
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health community, but where are the cats in this?
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Like for the last 72 hours, we've only talked about dogs and
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and our cats are stoic. You know, it's like, especially
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in the health realm, when there's something going on with
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their cats, we may not necessarily know what's going on
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until it is, it has escalated, right?
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So I feel like it's even more important for us to know more
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about how a cat's body works, how this, how this incorporates
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with that. Like the whole ecosystem is Rita
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Hogan. 'S yeah.
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And but a lot of it doesn't have anything to do with pet health
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community per per SE, right? Like that we're that we live in
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or the cat community, right? It has to do with like the
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science community, right, Because the pet health community
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is very science driven. They are they are always finding
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new research citing new research for any any of your vets that
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tell you oh there's no research around raw feeding like.
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There's so much new research. Yes, there's so like like
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thousands and thousands of studies, peer review, study, all
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kinds of stuff that's coming out all the time.
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There's a lot of. Research.
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Exciting when there's new science, when there's new
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research. But they're all around dogs,
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right? So they're not study.
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Hard. So I blame the scientific
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community. No, but we all know how hard
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cats are to study. I mean, we did our own clinical
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trial with Innovative Pet Lab and it was difficult.
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We had hundreds of people sign up, hundreds of people sign up
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for this clinical trial. And like 300.
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And and yet there were very few that could actually finish the
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clinical trial. So cats are hard to study.
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Yeah, does not mean that we stop trying, however, and we keep
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wanting to. So I think this is a great
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lesson. I think in general we, we will
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talk about how we feel like sometimes there's conflict or
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there's not enough awareness about and wanting to keep
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conflict, not conflict, but like.
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But in general, not really. But I think this is really one
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of those things where when you recognize that you're working in
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kind of two different realms and you may not agree on everything
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or this is not exactly what we have prioritized, but it is what
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they have. This is a great moment to really
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like think about how we do bridge that gap.
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So we spend so much time, you know, and which is why we bring
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as many people from the pet health community under our
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platform as well, because our cats are the ones that need that
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knowledge the most. In my opinion, and I think that
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is like that what what we're doing and what others are now
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doing as well, like bring it on. There's there's so many awesome
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people in like that are that want cats to live longer,
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healthier, happier lives and want to understand them better
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and want to understand their nutrition levels better and want
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to understand what they need better.
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Just like us, just like you guys, right?
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Like that's what we all want is to better understand our
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children who are, you know, they are, they are our, our, our
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family, our family, right? Like we want to understand them
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and we want to better care for them.
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And there's so many like bringing on these awesome
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people. Like let's just do a shout out
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for next week because if you guys are like, we are bringing
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on a veterinarian that we you haven't met yet.
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Unless you are very much involved in the health
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community. Unless you're very, yeah, but
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she's going to melt your face off.
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And she's very feline centric. Yes, she is.
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She's very feline centric. And we are going to have, I
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mean, it's going to be a blast. She's also just, like, very down
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to earth and relatable. So very excited.
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Her name is Doctor Susan Recker. She will be on next week, next
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Wednesday at the same time, same place.
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Melting face isn't blowing our minds.
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Yeah but here's like here's the conflict.
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I think one of the biggest things, like take just Jay and
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myself. Jay is very much into the
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research, very much into the this is what science shows about
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blah, blah. And if you look at the biology
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of yada, yada. And I'm like, what do I feed the
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babies? Right.
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Like, right. Yeah.
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Like I really am just like, I'm more on the, you know, I want to
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make sure we have play time, which I'm not very good at.
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I want to make sure that we get snuggled.
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I want to. And I feel like I am very much
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more. Like nature, nurture or
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something. Something.
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Right. Like, I mean, we, we are like,
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I'm like the, I'm like the one that they don't scratch or bite
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because they know they can't get away with it.
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I'm, I'm the, I'm like the, I'm like the dad, right?
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You're like the mom or, or, or I mean, I don't know.
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These days, that's probably getting very politically
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incorrect. And this is more of a therapy
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session than it is a podcast. Let's refocus, shall we?
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So I think the big thing is, you know, when we talk about
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bridging the two worlds, it's, you know, the, the pet health
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community is very science based. I don't necessarily we were just
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at an amazing whole pet come with Doctor Ruth Roberts and his
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incredible presentations about things that were just like
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blowing my mind and we got done with.
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The world. And if you ever have a chance to
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watch a presentation from Amy Rens, just buckle.
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Up buckle. Up, buckle up and maybe just
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record it for. She's the owner of Goodness
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Gracious Pet Food, who is who has cat formulas as well.
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Yes, mind you. Yes, she does.
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I but I did find myself kind of, you know, grasping at straws
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afterwards being like, well, what does it mean?
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But what does it all mean? You know, And then in the cat
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community, I think there's so many people that are just, we
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are so many are very rescue oriented doing doing the boots
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on the ground. They're saving lives.
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It's, it's very much this, my cats, my cat is peeing
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everywhere. My cats are fighting.
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My cats are we're not necessarily.
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And then, you know, we even work with people that when there is a
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health issue that comes up, they go to the vet and they come back
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with, you know, steroids and antibiotics and hope for the
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best. And then three weeks later we're
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back on the, you know, we're not necessarily asking our bad
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questions like, well, what is the allergy or what is going on
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with, do we know why this is a situation?
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Could it be the food that I'm feeding is there?
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You know, we're not necessarily asking those questions.
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So I feel like this has been such a great exercise and trying
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to figure out how we can. Bridge.
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Bridge and bring the world together for for the betterment
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of all cats, to better understand them, to give them
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better health. But it takes a village, right?
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Like it can't just be right like you guys, right like you guys,
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like we like we have to work together, which is why the title
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of this is actually Better Together because it's so cool,
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guys. It is so freaking cool.
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The I don't want to say that like there is anything negative
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about us having our feet in different or toes dipped in
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different. I don't know what the right
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correct where it is, but like the like toes dipped in two
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different worlds. We are completely blessed, like
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beyond measure to be able to connect with the cat community
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when we get together with you guys at like cat con or any of
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these or, or sea meow, any of these awesome cat conventions.
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And, and then, of course, always here online when we get
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together, we, we work together, we build together.
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When there is a, when there's a a goal, what is the word?
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I keep on the same mission, but it's like mission meow.
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But like, you know what, like when there is a lost cat or
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there is a, there's a cat on the euthanasia list, right?
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Or so and so needs help to get a Transport Van FC-3 shout out.
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Get them, get them. Do it but when when there's an
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organization that is is working so hard, it's literally just out
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of the kindness and beautiful hearts because that is what the
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cat community is. It's just the kindness of their
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hearts and, and, and and their, their, and not work ethic, but
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their drive to make a difference in this world, in the, in the
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world of cats. We all buckle.
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We all get together right when when there's a tragedy that
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happens, like when Pooh Bear pass right?
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Like you guys, I can't, I could still cry.
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It's been 2 / 2 years now and I could still cry at how much you
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guys really just showed up for us.
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You carried us through that whole tragedy.
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And we do that for each other. And that's what happens here,
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right? Like, we're Better Together.
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We are Better Together and that's great, right?
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In the pet health world, it's the same thing.
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It's the same thing for us and I want you all to experience.
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This is why we want to bring it together is because like when,
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when there's an issue, mind you, like our last podcast that we
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had just the two of us, just the two, I can't say.
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It. The last podcast that we had
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where we were talking about Madison's emergency, like who
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did we turn to we? Well, I mean, obviously we told
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you guys about it because if like we, we're Better Together,
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but but who did we turn to for advice?
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We went to the pet health community.
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We went to the veterinarians that we know, we know we went to
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the, the energy workers that we know.
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We went to the to the to the like herbalist that we know, you
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know, like the people in the health world.
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We were like, what do we do? And how can we?
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How can we fix this or? What are the questions that we
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need to ask? Yeah.
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Am I asking the right questions? Do I need to do this?
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You know, like. This is, these are resources
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that we all need in the cat community.
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Or I feel like part of part of this, part of the impetus for
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this is, is the fact that we, we do this ourselves sometimes.
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But I know in the cat community, it's like, oh, are you going to
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this or are you going to be a part of this certain event?
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And it's like, no, they don't even talk about cats.
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And I'm going to deal with those people.
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No, I mean. That's not the verbiage.
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Not the verbiage, no, no, it's. Just like it doesn't make
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financial sense for us to go if you're not even going to get
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included. In the verbiage, but what I'm
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saying is. We want to go.
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All the cool people are there. Sometimes we know what we're
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talking about, but. For all of us to go, that's not
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the verbiage. But what I'm saying is for all
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of us, I think that there is this level of awareness now that
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we all have that we can recognize that we are Better
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Together. And if we are not engaging just
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because we're like, you know, not going to go to this certain
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thing because they're not going to pay attention to that because
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they're not going to acknowledge cats, maybe we can still learn
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something. Maybe there's something that.
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We can and we we do, right? Like we subscribe to
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communities? All of it.
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All of it. Everything.
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All of it, as much as. We subscribe to all of it so
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that we can learn as much as humanly possible so that we can
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then translate that or look it up.
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Right for yeah, for ourselves, but but but also for you guys or
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mainly for you guys too, right. Like we, we get the information
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and then we, we research it and we're like, this sounds really
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great, but it's for dogs. Would that work for cats?
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And is this safe for cats? And could we do this?
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And how does this work in, in, in the body of a feline?
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Like, you know, like we try to do as much research as possible
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so that we can bring you guys an answer for the things that they
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already know about dogs. But but, and they're going to
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tell you all about it when it comes to dogs, but it'll be
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like, oh, is that like my cat's dealing with a very similar
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issue? Would it be the same or do you
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even know? Listen, we, we worked for 10
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years prior to starting 2 crazy cat ladies.
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So we've been in this business for 20 years now.
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That is so long. That seems so long.
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Seems so long I doesn't even feel like I should be 20 years
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old. No, it does.
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But, but, but we were in this industry for 10 years, in the
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pet health industry for 10 years prior to starting 2 Crazy Cat
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Ladies And it was so dog centric that we, we could not find
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answers when it came to certain issues that our cats had that
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were we're not dog related. Every answer was Oh well this
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works for dogs, so it might work for cats or.
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Maybe it would kill them. Like do we know?
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Does anybody know? Like there, there's that.
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And in the past 10 years, certainly, I mean when we
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started, there was 1, one raw, raw food company.
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Yeah, one fresh food. Fresh food.
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Available for cats 1 you guys 10 years ago, it feels like, do you
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even have smartphones back then? I don't even know.
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It seems like a long time ago, but the resources for cats are
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really, really growing and I feel like there are so many
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bridge builders, maybe especially in the cat community.
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I feel like we know what our cats need and we know that we
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don't have all the tools, so we're extra, but we're going.
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To do the best with what the information that we have, we are
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going to do the best with the information than we have.
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And we are going to continue to learn, share and grow, which is
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our motto with the with the cat community, from the pet health
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community to the cat community. But it is, it is, it's, it's
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amazing. It it's also kind of sad so.
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It's amazing and sad are. You it's amazing and sad No, I'm
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not about to cry in the in the pet health world, we have like
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some of our closest friends right you.
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Are about to cry. No, I'm not about.
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I don't know. Don't cry.
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OK. Continue but but we have like
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some of our closest friends, right, because they're the
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mindset, the love, the energy, all of that is like so In Sync
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in the in the pet health community, right?
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We also have beautiful friends in the cat.
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Community best friends are also in.
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The cat. Some of our beautiful some of
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our best friends are also in the cat community.
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Some of them are in both now, right?
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Like it's, it's, it's beautiful. But but we want to introduce
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this, this vast amount of like beautiful knowledge, energy and
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grace from the pet health community to the cat community.
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And we'll keep trying. We'll keep trying till till the
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day we die. We will keep trying.
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Actually, it'll be done by then, but it.
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Seemed a little weird, but. It seemed a little.
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I mean, seemed a little morbid but.
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Till the day we done. We'll keep trying till the day
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we done. I think that's a song too.
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I Can't Sing it for you though, no.
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Anyway, so yes, we are. We're I I I just I feel like the
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message for this short podcast is.
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It's it's grow where you're planted.
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I think I it's, it's be aware of the sunshine around you.
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It is never negate something or even even information just
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because it's only about dogs. There's so much that we can all
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absorb and I feel like we we've been watching this needle move
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for so long and it's really exciting to see, you know, even
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in like the intimate moments like we throw a super zoo party
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for our pet health junkies every year and, and a lot of.
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Friends perfect example when we first started it was like we
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threw the pet health junkies after party and it was you know
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all of these awesome humans that.
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Us with the cat thing. And then us with the cat thing,
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right? Like, oh, you guys like cats?
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Oh, you're into cats. That's cool because everybody's
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into dogs, right? And then it grew and then it
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grew and then we grew in that like we started meeting you guys
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and we were like, let's bring in some cat people to to this, you
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know, to this party. We started bringing in some
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beautiful, awesome cat people. First time we did, we watched
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it, it was like cat people here, rest of the rest of the party
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here and it was like how do we mesh this?
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How do we? Mesh together, yeah.
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We still talk about it to this day.
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Yeah, I mean, but that's, that's a human thing, right?
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It's a human thing, I think. So this is a good time to really
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explore. I mean, we've been talking.
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About but let's not segregate ourselves, right?
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Like just because especially cat people or cat people, listen,
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listen, we all know and I'm not, I'm not saying anything bad
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about dog people, right? We're all dog people, right?
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Cat people are also dog people. But dog people, right?
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Dog people are often like. Not necessarily always.
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People, they're not cat, they're not always cat people, they're
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not always bird people, they're not always ferret people.
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Like, they're not always like they love their dogs and that's
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a beautiful thing. And it's like.
22:20
It's. Beautiful.
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It like, do you love that? But cat people, we've been in
22:26
this world for 10 years and we have watched and seen how many
22:32
cat people are animal people is what cat people are, right?
22:36
Like we love, we will save the squirrels, we will save the
22:40
pigeons. We will save that like whatever
22:43
it is like we the dogs, How many times have we, how many nights
22:48
have we spent saving dogs? Like we love dogs, so it's like
22:54
a, it's a. Always came for them though.
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It's a, it's a, it's a perfect way.
22:57
Like I, I really believe that both worlds can be completely
23:01
submerged at some point. And I can't wait for it.
23:04
I'm here I. Think it's happening.
23:06
I think it is happening. I mean, I feel like, you know,
23:08
there's there are there are some we've even experienced it,
23:12
right? Even with Madison with it as
23:13
much research as as we've done with as much in those moments,
23:18
we really do have to rely on each other for make sure I have
23:23
my head screwed on straight, you know, are these the questions
23:25
that we need to be asking? And I just feel like the power
23:27
of community is so powerful and that when we, when we recognize
23:33
that it isn't just about A&B, it's about C&D and all the other
23:40
things that we can really make impactful change.
23:46
And especially when it comes to our cats.
23:48
And I maybe it is because we just hear so many, there's,
23:51
there's a lot of sadness in the cat community when it comes to,
23:54
I had no idea that my cat was this or this happened.
23:58
And I, I had no idea that this was something that they were
24:01
allergic to or that they shouldn't be around this or
24:04
whatever it was. The more that we can all, all of
24:08
us together when we, when we find some good news, let's share
24:13
the good news. And be open, right?
24:15
Like so for the cat community, because that's who we talk to on
24:18
our platforms for the cat community, be open to learning,
24:23
right? Like be open to learning more.
24:25
I feel like there's just so there's so much lack of
24:28
information in the cat community specifically.
24:31
And there's a lot of misinformation, old myth
24:34
information, right? That like, like all the myths
24:39
that are that, that have been debunked.
24:42
You just make up a new word though.
24:43
Myth, MYTH, myth. Did you say myth information?
24:50
I did say misinformation instead of misinformation, but it is
24:54
myth. That's.
24:56
Oh look, I'm good and don't even know it.
24:58
Anyway, that was good. Yes, there's so much
25:00
misinformation. This is going to be fun.
25:05
We're. Going to, we're going to hold on
25:06
to that. But there is but but there is.
25:09
And we have to be like, we have to ask questions as cat people,
25:13
like as cat parents, we have to ask questions.
25:16
We have to be open to learning more and not just accepting the
25:20
status quo, not just accepting whatever is.
25:23
It's not it's not that we don't ask questions.
25:25
It's that for me, I'll ask questions, but I don't
25:28
necessarily understand what they're saying.
25:29
So I have to re ask the question.
25:31
We have to get to a place where we can, for example, in the
25:35
emergency room when you were on your way here and the doctor
25:38
came in and said, so we're thinking that this is AB and C
25:42
and I'm. Wait, wait, what's AB and C?
25:44
He wanted to do, he wanted to do the transdermal, he wanted to do
25:48
the appetite. Stimulant.
25:50
Right appetite stimulant and I was like is there is there
25:53
another option for and he was you know he was just like well I
25:57
think the best option would be and what I'm really asking is
26:01
what's going to cause the least amount of side effects.
26:04
What is her body going to be able to metabolize?
26:06
But. Not the words that she was.
26:08
Using but not the words that I was using like I have to get.
26:11
We all have to get better at asking for the information that
26:16
we actually want, you know, and being feeling like we can re ask
26:21
the question again. It's not that we don't it's not
26:24
that we're not open to learning. I don't think it's that it's,
26:27
it's difficult when you're in situations where we have the
26:30
opportunity to learn often times at events, but we don't have or
26:34
right and we don't necessarily even know the questions to ask,
26:36
which is why we're so passionate about bringing, for example,
26:39
Doctor Susan Rucker on next week to really so many things that
26:44
are out there. A lot of myth information that's
26:46
out there. Myth.
26:47
Information. Just about what we put in our
26:49
cats bodies, that's a. New word like hashtag.
26:51
Hashtag that, yeah. Let us know I mean.
26:54
I think hashtags are dead. I think so too.
26:57
Yeah I don't even use them anymore, not even on TikTok.
27:01
I try every once in a. While I use #boosted every now
27:04
and then, that's the. Thing.
27:07
That's an ideal thing, anyway. Anyway, all to say.
27:12
All to say, I think that like I, I, I want to encourage the cat
27:16
community as, as we do with the pet health community all the
27:20
time, but I want to encourage the cat community as well to, to
27:24
be open to kind of like reaching over the aisle and like taking a
27:30
hand. They like the people in the pet
27:32
health community love cats Like they, they will say like, oh, we
27:36
care about cats too, right? Like we care about cats.
27:39
They just don't have a lot of experience with cats.
27:42
So how about we reach our hand over and we say, hey, we have
27:45
experience, you teach us knowledge, let's work together,
27:48
right? Like that's what we're doing and
27:49
that's what we want you guys to do too, so we can all work
27:52
together and we can literally change the world.
27:55
When it comes to outcomes for our cats, yeah, just literally
27:59
give them happier, healthier, happier and healthier lives.
28:03
Yeah, it is. I think it's, I think it's an
28:08
exciting time. To be alive, it really is.
28:12
I mean, we have seen over the past 10 years, we have seen
28:16
tremendous. I mean, if if we were to I, I'm
28:19
not really good with math better than you, but don't look at.
28:24
Me. OK.
28:24
Never mind. But if you were to take like the
28:27
the 1st 10 years, the progress that was made that we saw at
28:31
least that was made in the in pet health versus cat health,
28:36
right, like dog health versus cat health in the 1st 10 years,
28:39
it was like null and void, right in the last 10 years.
28:44
It's been. Leaps and bounds it has been
28:48
that. Work, it's like compound
28:49
interest it like yes. And that is, and that is how it
28:53
works. Compound interest, right?
28:54
So like, let's just let's hold out a hand.
28:57
Let's let's fist bump, let's say, hey, we can work together.
29:01
Let's let's support people in the pet health community so
29:05
that, so that we can start to create a relationship so that
29:09
they start to recognize who that, that, that there are more
29:13
cat people. I mean, I'm telling you guys, it
29:15
is mind boggling to me that the the the biggest celebrities in
29:21
the pet health world that are effing celebrities, like serious
29:25
celebrities, right? Like the cat world doesn't even
29:29
know who they are. And that's mind boggling to me,
29:33
to us, right? Like, I mean, I mean, many, many
29:37
of you guys that have been following us for a long time
29:39
know who they are, but in general.
29:42
There's so much knowledge and so much growth to be had and it's
29:46
just a really exciting. I mean this the, the whole
29:49
purpose of this is really just focusing on that we do recognize
29:54
that there are kind of two different worlds that we live in
29:57
and that we are so passionate about and that we do see it
30:01
coming together. And it does take all of us to do
30:04
that. And it takes us and.
30:05
If we wanted to move any faster, we have to work together.
30:09
We are Better Together. We are always going to be Better
30:13
Together. So let's just let's, let's do
30:15
our best. Marinate on that.
30:18
Yeah, and and. And this is the beautiful thing
30:21
with the cat community Jay brought up Pooh Bear passing.
30:25
I don't think I've ever experienced in my human
30:28
experience in my entire life what it was to be supported and
30:33
literally carried through a through that situation.
30:36
Tragedy like. A and I think about what that
30:40
that was 1 cat that changed our world, but then it brought this.
30:48
But he wasn't like a celebrity. He wasn't a celebrity cat or
30:50
anything like that. Like he wasn't like.
30:52
Pooh Bear is. I mean, he was a celebrity to
30:54
us, but he, he, he didn't have his own Instagram page or he
30:58
wasn't, you know, like, you know, famous cats or anything
31:01
like that. He wasn't any of that.
31:03
But what? He revealed was just the power
31:05
of community. When we all come together
31:08
because of something that we care about and when we all
31:11
recognize that, yeah, that we all, you know, in this in this
31:15
world, High Friday, in this world, it is these beautiful
31:18
animals that bring this together, cats and dogs and
31:23
birds and and it's sneakily. Birds.
31:27
Sneakily reveals the beautiful humans in all of us.
31:31
So I feel like this is really exciting.
31:36
We talk about it all the time, just kind of how can we get, how
31:39
can we do what can? And please join us next week,
31:42
because Doctor Susan Ruckers is going to melt some faces off.
31:45
Is she going to melt your face off?
31:46
She is going to melt your face off and teach you so much when
31:49
it comes to nutrition. It teaches all so much when it
31:52
comes to nutrition in cats and how it affect like all of it.
31:58
She's going to, I'm not even going to speak because she's
32:00
just going to blow your face off.
32:01
She's going to melt my use. Layman's terms.
32:03
Every time I have met her, she's melted my face off.
32:05
Yeah, she does. So she will.
32:07
But it's based on these beautiful moments that we can
32:11
all learn together so and we can all grow together.
32:14
Yes, just always stay open. And I feel like it is a really
32:18
exciting time that that the health community and the cat
32:21
community have really started. It is like right?
32:25
And it's changing. Merging.
32:28
It is. Changing the lives.
32:29
Of our cats in ways that are changing our lives.
32:33
Yep. It's changing your cat's lives,
32:35
it's changing our cat's lives. It's, it's really making a huge
32:39
difference by just like realizing and, and I think, you
32:43
know, just as a society as a whole, we're learning so much
32:46
about like how much we're being lied to about, you know, certain
32:50
things, especially when it comes to the, to the pet food world.
32:54
Like we've just now we just, we know too much to be able to like
32:59
say this is a conspiracy theory or something.
33:01
Oh, excuse me. And then they go fight.
33:05
So. So it's.
33:07
Beautiful keep. Learning, keep learning, keep
33:10
sharing and let's let's grow the cat health community as well
33:16
together because we are most definitely always Better
33:20
Together. So that's going to wrap up this
33:22
episode of Back in the Closet with two Grays of gallons.
33:25
Thank you guys so much for joining us and and now.
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Don't forget next week. Join us next week, yes?