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MINI SCROLL: KSI Labubu backlash, Kendra psychiatrist TikTok series + Kaima Cosmetics insults customer · Mini Scroll

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  charting, OK? I feel this episode is going to
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  be really long. I have 7 pages of notes, so
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  let's just get into it. The first story that I have for
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  you guys is that TikTok creator Lily Feltman is being accused of
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  putting her La Boo Boo in blackface.
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  Yes, that is a real sentence that I just spread out loud.
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  So Lily is like the lobooboo creator of the moment.
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  She's like a meme Lobooboo creator.
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  Okay so even if you haven't seen her on your For You page, you
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  would likely know her from her sound that's gone viral where
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  she says. I have the one and only 24 karat
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  gold liboo Boo. So Lily's whole thing is that
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  she dresses up, decorates, and creates these different
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  variations of liboo boos. She does this on her spam
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  account and she's gained nearly 700,000 followers on this
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  account from this. Now, Lily is getting a ton of
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  backlash after she made a new variation of her Liboo Boo, a
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  Lboo Boo that she said was inspired by YouTube KSI, in
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  which she seemingly used a black sharpie marker to color the
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  Labooboo's face black. Now, obviously, users are
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  accusing her of doing blackface on the doll.
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  Lily quickly deleted the video, but the damage was already done.
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  Not only had she offended a ton of people, but the video has
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  also inspired a bunch of other white creators to do Labooboo
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  blackface as well. All right, I'm going to read a
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  definition of blackface. This is from the BBC quote.
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  Blackface is a historical practice that dates back around
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  200 years. It's seen as racist and many
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  people find it deeply offensive. It commonly refers to when
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  someone, typically with white skin, paints their face darker
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  to resemble a black person. But it isn't just about painting
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  skin a different color. Blackface was a practice in
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  which black people were mocked for the entertainment of white
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  people, and negative stereotypes were promoted across the US and
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  Europe. Keep Europe in mind.
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  In the early 19th century, white actors called minstrel
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  performers used to paint their faces black and do comedy
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  routines about black people which were racist.
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  They would do insulting impressions of black people in
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  very exaggerated ways, for example, mocking their accent.
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  These depictions were inaccurate, hurtful, and deeply
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  offensive, but many white people saw it as an acceptable form of
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  entertainment. All right, so Lily issued an
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  apology video in which she claimed ignorance, saying she
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  didn't know what blackface was because she is British and was
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  raised or largely grew up in Spain.
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  I am sorry because I didn't know what blackface or the dolls were
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  up until obviously I posted that video and then people was
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  telling me about it. Now I have done research on the
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  dolls and the blackface, I can obviously see how bad it was.
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  Now, I wasn't taught about blackface in school.
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  I moved to, I am English, I moved to Spain at a young age.
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  I went to school in Spain and it's something that wasn't
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  taught here. Now, whether I missed it because
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  I didn't speak the language in the two years that I was
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  learning Spanish or it wasn't taught here, I'm not exactly
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  quite sure, but this is something that I was not taught
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  here. All right, so myself and many
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  others don't necessarily believe that she has never heard of
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  blackface before. The reason why I chose ABBC
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  article to pull from is because that is obviously a British
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  publication and in that same article an expert from
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  Birmingham University gave this quote quote.
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  It is a really long standing issue and negatively racial
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  across Europe. You see it from Shakespearean
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  times onwards, this figure of white people quote blacking up.
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  It's either seen as a devil or a danger or as a way to take the
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  Mickey out of people. Did you hear that across Europe?
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  And then another expert named Ben Holman for the same article
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  gave this quote. Most of modern Britain see the
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  use of blackface as an outdated practice.
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  However, we are aware that it can reappear every now and then.
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  OK, so this was from ABBC article and two experts who are
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  both British are speaking to the occurrence of blackface and the
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  commonality of blackface from certain eras across Europe.
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  OK, so her pleading ignorance, I just don't think that flies.
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  All right, the next word that I have for you guys, we're going
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  to talk about Kendra, the woman who fell in love with her
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  psychiatrist. I am sure a lot of you are
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  waiting for this. So this is like a new who the
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  fuck did I marry series. It is very extensive.
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  There are absolute differences here.
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  And I do want to preface, you know, before I really get into
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  it, keep in mind while you're listening to this that Kendra, I
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  believe and a lot of people believe is definitely like going
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  through something, OK? I think there's a lot of maybe
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  misunderstanding about why she's telling this story online.
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  And I know she's done a lot of things that are not great, and I
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  will obviously get into that. But I do think we need to look
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  at this story as not like some salacious, gossipy, you know,
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  crazy sensationalized story. I think everybody is like
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  talking, talking about it as if it's like, you know, this piece
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  of drama. And at the end of the day, this
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  is a woman who I do believe, believes this happened to her.
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  I don't think she's like lying to us about this.
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  I think she is unwell. That is my opinion.
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  And I'm looking at it through that lens.
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  OK, so I won't be able to summarize everything obviously,
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  but here are kind of the key points because this is a very
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  extensive series. So this woman named Kendra was
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  looking to find a psychiatrist who could prescribe her
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  medication for ADHD. Through the sessions with her
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  psychiatrist, Kendra started to develop feelings for him.
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  So throughout the series, she explained certain instances that
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  led to her building this relationship with him.
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  For example, having extra long sessions, he would share
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  achievements about his personal life, things like that.
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  She says the intention behind the series is not to get him
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  fired, but to, quote, give a voice to victims.
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  She had a lot of accusations against this man, saying that he
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  like emotionally manipulated her.
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  So an example of that is she said that he would sometimes be
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  very warm and vulnerable with her and then other times he was
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  more like clinical and detached. And that just made her like work
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  harder, quote UN quote. At the beginning of last year,
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  Kendra was hit by a car and instead of going to emergency,
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  she didn't want to is her scheduled appointment with her
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  psychiatrist, so she went to see him instead.
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  Eventually, Kendra admitted that she had a crush on her
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  psychiatrist because it came up because like her and her
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  boyfriend, I guess we're having intimacy issues.
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  She told her therapist and her therapist told her to ask her
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  psychiatrist about this. So when Kendra brought it up to
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  her psychiatrist, she explained that she doesn't usually talk
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  about these topics with him because she has a crush on him.
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  She says his response was that he just kind of like smiled.
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  And in this context, the healthcare professional should
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  definitely set some boundaries with the patient or refer them
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  on to someone else, is what she is essentially saying.
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  They've been doing their appointments over Zoom for three
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  years. And then they finally had an
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  opportunity to do an in person appointment.
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  And she said that's when her crush intensified.
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  Then she took to ChatGPT, who she calls Henry.
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  OK, so she has named her ChatGPT Henry, and she talks to Henry
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  about the situation. Henry explained the phenomenon
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  of transference in therapy, which I guess is when a patient
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  directs their feelings about someone else, like on to their
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  therapist. And this can be both negative or
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  positive emotions, Kendra said. She brought up her, I don't
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  know, conversation is not the right word, but conversation
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  with Henry, AKA ChatGPT and transference to her
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  psychiatrist. He was like, have you learned
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  about countertransference? Which is when I guess a
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  therapist or mental health professional does this to a
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  patient. And so she he explained
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  countertransference to her and then she started wondering, why
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  would my psychiatrist bring up transference if he wasn't
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  experiencing it? Kendra says he would continue
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  knew to give her compliments and quote, turn up the intimacy.
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  She believed that he was rewarding her for taking full
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  accountability of the situation by saying that she alone was
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  experiencing transference. In one of the most recent
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  stories, she talks about how she had a dream that she had hooked
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  up with her psychiatrist in his office.
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  She later told him about the dream in a session and she
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  explained that he looked very uncomfortable during this whole
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  conversation. Kendra believed that he was
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  shocked because he may have had that fantasy himself as well
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  before. OK, so that's an incredibly high
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  level, just of like the story itself.
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  However, I do want to know. She started posting, I'm going
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  to say like, there's probably 10 videos that she posted before
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  she actually started telling, like the story where she was
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  saying I fell in my in love with my psychiatrist and like, it's
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  his fault. Like he manipulated me, OK.
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  And some of the stuff she's saying in those earlier videos,
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  before she actually gets into the details of the story and of
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  what happened, she says things like my psychiatrist wouldn't
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  date in his personal life because he gets his emotional
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  validation or all of his emotional needs met from his
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  patients. Like she was making these
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  outlandish claims about this man as if, like, how would you know?
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  How would you know that, you know?
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  So it wasn't just her telling this horrifying story.
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  She was also kind of adding these really sensational claims
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  to it that made people be like, what?
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  Like this just sounds wrong. So a lot of mental health
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  professionals on TikTok have come out and said it seems like
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  she is having delusions, like just based on how she's telling
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  this story, making all of these assumptions about his reactions
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  and about why he's asking her certain questions and treating
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  her in a certain way. She is also of course, because
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  she's not saying this in a nice way.
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  Like there is an element of slander there for sure.
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  Amid all of this, she ended up doxing him.
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  So the Internet has found out who he is I suppose.
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  Or the Internet believes that they know who he is, which of
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  course is incredibly damaging. OK, there's two other parts of
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  this lore that I want to talk about before I get into opinion.
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  So Kendra posted on Reddit about sharing her story on TikTok.
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  She posted in the R slash therapy abuse subreddit.
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  She wrote. I posted my story on TikTok and
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  I'm getting torn to shreds. So I should note right now her
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  videos don't have any comments turned on but they used to she
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  wrote My psychiatrist fostered a very manipulative dynamic with
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  me and I ended up falling for him.
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  I left him after 3.5 years in March but I've still been
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  thinking about him. So I went to TikTok to see if I
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  could get any help but there was no videos on the topic for
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  falling for your manipulative psychiatrist.
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  I decided to post my story. The amount of hate, vitriol, and
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  victim blaming I've been getting from people in the mental health
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  field is disturbing. One quote therapist in training
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  found and messaged my mom on Facebook saying she's quote
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  worried about my mental health. I'm going extremely viral right
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  now for all the wrong reasons. If you search Kendra
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  psychiatrist on TikTok, it will come up.
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  And I mean, all of the comments in this thread are most of them,
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  the vast majority of them are positive and like supportive of
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  Kendra. And you know, there were also
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  questions like is this actually her?
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  And she did confirm on TikTok live that this post indeed is
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  from her. Finally, there is this woman on
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  TikTok claiming to be Kendra's ex coaching client and she has
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  said that Kendra essentially preyed on her during a
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  vulnerable time and this was all very recent.
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  So the woman talks about how she was friendly with Kendra and she
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  reached out to her for sobriety support because I guess Kendra
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  is sober and Kendra convinced her to pay $3000 for sobriety
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  coaching from her. Apparently, Kendra said.
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  Normally I do ADHD coaching, but you know, I could do sobriety
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  coaching for you. Basically, I like reached out to
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  her for help with sobriety and she said, great, here's let's
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  hop on Zoom and have a conversation about it.
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  So we did a few days later and this was like in March earlier
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  this year. And we like talk about like what
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  prompted me to want to go sober and just kind of like her
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  experience with sobriety and everything.
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  And she then starts the pitch of, like, I do think, like, it'd
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  be really great if we, like, didn't just talk as friends,
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  like, if we really worked on this together in a coaching
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  relationship. And that, like, this, it is
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  really crazy that I've been brought to her and this must be
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  divine intervention that we're coming back into each other's
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  lives and everything. And I was like, yeah, I think it
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  could be great. And she said, well, normally it
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  is ADHD coaching, but I'm more than happy to do sobriety
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  coaching with you. I've already sent you the
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  invoice and the contract design and I said I really would like
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  to think about it. And she's like, now's the time.
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  Don't think, just do like you won't regret doing it.
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  And my card wouldn't go through because it was like an unknown
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  vendor through Stripe. And my bank was like, we're not
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  gonna authorize this payment. And I was like, oh, well, it
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  won't go through. It's Friday night.
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  Like, I'll just call in the morning and like get it sorted
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  out. And she's like, I really want
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  you to do it right now. Call your bank right now.
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  And I'll like stay on the phone with you.
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  And Kendra has also confirmed that this woman was indeed one
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  of her clients in a video as well.
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  The response to Kendra story from TikTok users has also been
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  interesting. And I think we can use this
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  whole situation to talk about effective storytelling on
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  TikTok. Because again, like, I want to
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  come at it from a place of empathy for the psychiatrist who
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  obviously has been doxxed and somewhat slandered, but also
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  from Kendra because I do believe that she is, she believes this
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  happened to her. And I do believe she is going
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  through something right now. Kendra has been receiving a lot
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  of hate. Many people are hesitant to
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  believe her story. They think she's crazy
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  basically. And if we compare this Teresa
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  Tisa, as I mentioned, The Who the fuck Did I Marry series,
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  which was, you know, wildly viral and a similar type of
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  story, the response has been very different.
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  Here is why I think that is. I think part of this comes down
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  to the way that they told their stories.
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  I think the difference between Kendra and Risa Tisa is that
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  Risa shared her experience through anecdotal storytelling.
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  She allowed us as users, as the audience to draw our own
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  conclusions. She basically just came on
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  TikTok and said, like, this is what happened to me in this
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  messed up marriage and gave, you know, a very detailed breakdown
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  of the timeline. And the conclusion from that
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  from users, from viewers was that we believed her.
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  We supported her. The Internet, you know, rallied
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  around her and they saw her as a victim.
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  However, like I mentioned before, Kendra opened her series
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  with like several videos just saying really wild accusations,
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  things that like you wouldn't know about a psychiatrist.
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  Like I said, you know her. It was like her third video
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  where she said he doesn't date in his personal life because he
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  gets his emotional needs met from his patients.
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  That is a wild claim. How would you know that?
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  How would you as the patient, as the client?
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  How would you know that your psychiatrist what what they do
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  in their personal time? Would you know that he's dating?
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  You know? So I think even if she did know,
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  like even if every single word of Kendra's story is true,
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  Kendra kind of lost the audience's trust like right
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  away. And I think this whole situation
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  just shows how, like, narrative structure and storytelling are
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  extremely important when you are telling really sensational or
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  shocking stories online. Whether it's true or not.
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  Like I said, that's not really what I'm talking about here.
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  I think she should have led with the personal anecdotes, with the
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  storytelling and then allowed the audience to make their own
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  conclusions, which they would have come to the conclusion
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  based on this story. OK, Yeah.
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  Like, maybe he did manipulate you.
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  And then she could have, I guess, gotten into, like, more
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  of her feelings about it and, you know, more of those kind of
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  like fuzzy details. The other reason and one of you
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  guys in the comments from what story was I talking about with
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  cheating? I was talking about, I couldn't
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  remember what story it was, but it was like a couple weeks ago
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  when we were talking about a cheating scandal.
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  I'm saying the Internet just goes wild for those.
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  And I was like, why do you guys think that is?
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  And somebody commented on YouTube saying I think it's
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  because being cheated on is like such a deep rooted fear for most
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  people. They can like relate to that,
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  even if they haven't been personally cheated on.
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  It is like in general, probably one of the most like generalized
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  fears. And I was like, that is actually
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  so true. So I think also with Risa Tisa,
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  even though her story was wild and like, you know, so out of
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  the ordinary, but of course there was a lot of betrayal from
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  a man. There was cheating, you know,
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  there was kind of all of that. And I think people can see more
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  of themselves and their experiences reflected in what
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  Reese Tisa went through then what Kendra is claiming she's
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  gone through. That being said, I don't want it
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  to necessarily sound like I believe Kendra, you know, I, I
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  don't want to have to defend a man, but I, I do, I do feel bad
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  for this man. OK.
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  He is absolutely being slandered.
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  He's been boxed. If it's him, you know, it's it's
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  probably been really rough. The whole Internet now knows
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  about him, whether the story is true or not.
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  And that would be pretty shitty. But I did want to leave off on
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  this one perspective from therapist Austin Callow on
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  TikTok. He talked about this and I
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  thought it was actually a really interesting perspective because
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  he kind of said like the psychiatrist is going to be
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  fine. You know, like we are trained to
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  deal with this kind of situation and the governing bodies in our
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  industry, you know, we know how to handle when a patient is
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  reporting someone to the board or whatever and kind of how to
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  properly. And he said, you know, like our
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  governing bodies in this industry are well equipped to
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  deal with these types of complaints and these types of
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  issues. And he was basically saying,
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  like there, this man will be fine.
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  And I thought it was interesting because I haven't seen that
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  perspective. Yet coming from a clinician's
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  perspective, I'm very disappointed with how public her
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  experiences and I wanted to paint a picture about how I
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  would see this person and how they experience life in general.
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  So where there's smoke there there's fire.
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  Meaning she has delusional beliefs.
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  When you have delusional beliefs, it comes from a place
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  of general insecurity or fear or difficulty attaching so.
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  Like a good way of putting it is, you know, if you were to get
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  a dog and the dog kind of goes like this every single time
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  someone puts their hand out, you would infer that somebody hit
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  the dog, you know, or else why would the dog do that?
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  It's it's the same thing with people.
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  So when you see somebody in that lens, you know, nobody wants to
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  react with traits that could be personality pathology.
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  Nobody wants to engage in the world that way and nobody wants
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  to be delusional. It's something that our body
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  does to protect ourselves. She's displaying all this
• 20:33
  behavior. It's so natural to be repulsed
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  by it and make it public and try to protect the clinician who he
• 20:40
  can protect himself, by the way. We're taught to do that.
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  We know how to do that. We set boundaries.
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  He's not engaging with her anymore.
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  Do I think you're necessarily trained to be slandered across
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  the Internet to millions of people in your career?
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  Probably not. You know, that's I think the
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  unique part. That's where I think a lot of
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  people are, are feeling like the the weight of it because it's
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  like, yeah, OK, yes, that that can happen.
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  But the fact that she's taken to TikTok, it's gone so viral.
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  She's not deleting the videos. She's doubling down.
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  Like you probably like, who is equipped for that?
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  OK, The last word that I have for you guys is I wanted to
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  cover what is going on between this creator named Ella Kinkley
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  and the beauty brand Kyma Cosmetic.
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  So Ella posted a YouTube video earlier this week with the title
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  A brand called me a nobody, awful looking and a fatty with
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  scubby skin. So to make a Long story short,
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  Ella explains that the founder of Kyma Cosmetics whose name is
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  Gemma, took to Instagram just straw over a negative review
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  that was published about the brand on Trustpilot.
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  Ella noted that after receiving a bad review, Gemma encouraged
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  her followers to flood the platform with positive comments
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  and high high ratings. Soon, the company's Trustpilot
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  rating had been bumped up. Ella works in quality assurance
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  for customers, so she found this response from a company to be
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  very unethical and untrustworthy.
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  She took issue with the likelihood of people reviewing
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  the brand without even ordering from the company, so she left a
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  comment on the Instagram account for the brand.
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  She said. So basically you were begging
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  for good reviews because someone shared their personal experience
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  and are not adulting enough to just accept the fact that
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  someone just felt that way and now influenced these reviews and
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  basically directed that in a false direction.
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  So you feel better. Wow.
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  And then Ella received Adm from the brand.
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  Kyma Cosmetics thanked Ella for her constructive criticism,
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  quote UN quote before asking her to expand on the comment.
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  So Ella doubled down on her point and then the brand said,
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  you're such a wonderful person, love you lol.
• 22:42
  The brand continued in another message writing.
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  I bet your days following are going to be amazing.
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  Think of me when everything starts to go wrong for you.
• 22:51
  After more back and forth, the brand got really personal.
• 22:54
  They called Ella a nobody, saying she looks awful and that
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  she should sort out her scabby skin.
• 23:00
  Kaima Cosmetics has gone on to address the situation in a
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  statement on Instagram, they wrote.
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  Kaima Cosmetics would like to wholeheartedly apologize for any
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  offense caused by a post made by a staff member who was posting
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  on behalf of the brand owner, Gemma.
• 23:13
  OK, OK. The staff member has now been
• 23:16
  dismissed from the company. This has truly spoiled Gemma's
• 23:20
  family holiday and as a result she would be suspending social
• 23:23
  media content until we can recruit a reliable staff member
• 23:26
  to take over. Gemma has received vile comments
• 23:29
  and criticism for a post she was totally unaware of until late
• 23:32
  yesterday. As from the picture this has
• 23:34
  caused fireworks within the company and has damaged our
• 23:38
  brand which we have worked tirelessly to build over the
• 23:41
  last few years. We have prided ourselves on our
• 23:44
  customer service and it is entirely unacceptable for Gemma
• 23:48
  to to receive vile posts and death threats caused by someone
• 23:51
  who is now no longer with the company.
• 23:53
  We do not and have not ever encouraged false trust pilot
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  reviews and would never condone false reviews.
• 23:59
  As a small independent company, we have always strived for good
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  customer service and it is with a heavy heart that we are
• 24:04
  ashamed that a supposedly trusted employee would abuse the
• 24:07
  trust we placed in them to act on Gemma's behalf.
• 24:10
  Gemma is totally upset and distraught over this.
• 24:12
  We totally apologize to Ella on behalf of the company and can
• 24:16
  totally reassure our customers that this this behavior will not
• 24:19
  be tolerated by our brand. Once again, you guys, I'm sorry.
• 24:24
  I actually didn't read this whole apology until I like read
• 24:27
  it right now. You're you're going to die.
• 24:29
  Once again, apologies for any offense this has caused.
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  Going forward, we will strive once more for our outstanding
• 24:35
  customer service. Regards Get no listen Regards.
• 24:39
  Gemma's dad. I was one.
• 24:42
  I was like this. Why do they keep talking about
• 24:43
  Gemma? OK, obviously I do not want to
• 24:46
  ever talk poorly about a small independent female owned brand
• 24:51
  like that is literally what my company is.
• 24:54
  But this is so unacceptable. This is honestly disgusting.
• 24:58
  This this person, I don't know if it was an employee or not,
• 25:01
  but it doesn't honestly, it doesn't matter.
• 25:02
  It doesn't matter if it's an employee, OK?
• 25:04
  Like if one of you guys messaged us in the DMS and one of my team
• 25:08
  members sent you something like that back, like it's not an
• 25:12
  apology of like, oh, this is like this is like ruining
• 25:15
  Laurens vacation. Like why would you guys do this?
• 25:18
  This is ruining Lawrence vacation.
• 25:19
  Like no, like the brand and who I hire is a representation of
• 25:23
  me. The fact that they're saying
• 25:24
  Gemma has no part in this and like, oh, poor Gemma, like her
• 25:27
  family vacation. I can't, I actually don't know
• 25:30
  how to react to this because this is wild.
• 25:32
  This is so wild. It doesn't matter.
• 25:35
  The brand is yours. The people you hired are yours.
• 25:39
  They're in your company inbox. They have access to talking to
• 25:41
  your customers like it's on you. It doesn't matter if somebody
• 25:45
  goes rogue, it's on you. You have to apologize as the
• 25:48
  brand professionally, not as your dad, not as your dad.
• 25:53
  What the fuck? What the fuck?
• 25:55
  I can't. Also, I don't believe that
• 25:58
  Gemmae dad, who's probably like a boomer wrote this.
• 26:00
  Okay, listen to this. Gemma is totally upset and
• 26:03
  distraught over this. We totally apologize to Ella on
• 26:06
  behalf and we can totally reassure our customers.
• 26:09
  I'm sorry. That sounds like me.
• 26:10
  Like that's how I talk as a millennial woman.
• 26:13
  I say totally and literally and legit.
• 26:15
  Like that doesn't sound like a boomer man.
• 26:18
  Gemma's totally upset. I actually am really glad I
• 26:21
  didn't read this entire response until on the podcast right now
• 26:25
  because you guys got my real authentic reaction.
• 26:29
  I am very glad that Ella took this to social media.
• 26:33
  I am glad she's sharing her story.
• 26:34
  I'm glad she made a YouTube video about it as well to
• 26:37
  amplify it even more because this is so unacceptable and
• 26:41
  people need to know about this. And that quote UN quote apology
• 26:44
  is the wildest thing that I've read in a very long time.
• 26:47
  Regards, Gemma's dad. I'll never get over that.
• 26:50
  Regards, Gemmae dad. All right guys, that's it for
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  mini scroll today. Thank you so much for listening.
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  Please remember to rate review and subscribe.
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  Keep us charting. I love you guys and I will
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  actually talk to you guys tomorrow for another mini
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  scroll, a Friday mini scroll. OK, bye.