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364: Sister Wives Season 21 Premiere - Crazy Big News (S21 E1) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Reality TV Chris, the podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: am one of your hosts, Delia, and I'm here with
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  Speaker 1: my real tight homegirl and my daughter-in-law, the quintessence of loveliness, Biedra.
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  Speaker 2: That's me.
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  Speaker 1: We are here to recap the first episode of season
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  Speaker 1: 21 of sister-wise. Yeah. But before we get into it,
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  Speaker 1: Before we even start with our takeaways, because I do
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  Speaker 1: have a takeaway that I want to share with the dumpster,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you do as well, I just have
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  Speaker 1: to tell you that right before we got up to
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  Speaker 1: record on this Monday night, I saw on the Sister
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  Speaker 1: Wives subreddit that somebody had written in to fuck ass,
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  Speaker 1: there I am swearing, I'm sorry, fuck ass Discovery Plus,
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  Speaker 1: because the episode of Sister Wives had not dropped yet.
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  Speaker 1: And I have Discovery Plus.
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  Speaker 2: Me too.
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  Speaker 1: I did not have the expectation that I could watch
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  Speaker 1: it last night with the other 10 people in our
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  Speaker 1: nation who are watching this show. But I thought for
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  Speaker 1: sure it would be up this morning like it is
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  Speaker 1: every season. But no, the episode was not live this morning.
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  Speaker 1: It was not live at noon. At two o'clock, I
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  Speaker 1: had to buy it on Prime and watch it that
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  Speaker 1: way because I don't have Macs like everybody else. And
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  Speaker 1: then on the subreddit, somebody actually inquired a discovery plus
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  Speaker 1: and asked how come it's not live yet and they
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  Speaker 1: said and we'll put up the graphic they said and
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  Speaker 1: i'm just going to paraphrase that essentially they're not going
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  Speaker 1: to make any of the episodes live until the season completes.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't get this at what like who does
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  Speaker 2: discovery plus think that they.
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  Speaker 1: Are it's sister wives it's.
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  Speaker 2: Sister wives and like why are they doing this with
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  Speaker 2: this show because a couple years ago it used to
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  Speaker 2: be available the episodes were available same day at the
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  Speaker 2: same time when they were live on national tv and
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  Speaker 2: then they changed it for the next season to the
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  Speaker 2: day after and okay fine And then what was the
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  Speaker 2: season after that? They didn't put the look back episodes
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  Speaker 2: on Discovery Plus for some reason. And now you're just
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  Speaker 2: not going to put the season up at all until
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  Speaker 2: it's done.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know they do that with some other shows
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  Speaker 1: like on the Oprah Winfrey Network, like Love and Marriage Huntsville,
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  Speaker 1: which I like to watch. But I always have to
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  Speaker 1: wait until the season completes before Discovery Plus will drop it.
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  Speaker 1: But that's because I guess the primary host is the
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  Speaker 1: OWN Network. I don't know. It doesn't make sense because
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  Speaker 1: you're dropping 90 Day Fiance the next day. You're dropping
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Plathville the next day. Why aren't you dropping
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  Speaker 1: the Sister Wives? I'm pissed off.
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  Speaker 2: I was pissed off too.
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  Speaker 1: Why am I purchasing this streaming platform then? I'm straight
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  Speaker 1: up going to cancel it at this point. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to cancel it as well. Why would I have it?
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  Speaker 2: It's so dumb. I literally woke up this morning before
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  Speaker 2: work to watch this episode because I'm dedicated. And I
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  Speaker 2: go and turn on my TV and of course it's
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  Speaker 2: not on Discovery Plus. And I'm like, what the hell?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like Googling it to see if there's any
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  Speaker 2: articles out. Of course, there's nothing because why would they
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  Speaker 2: tell anybody?
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  Speaker 1: They don't announce it.
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  Speaker 2: Why would they announce anybody? There's no articles out. Every
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  Speaker 2: article actually says it's going to be available on Discovery
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  Speaker 2: Plus the next day. So luckily I had Max, even
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  Speaker 2: though I hate Max. And I have to pay a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money for ads. It's $ 24 with ads for
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  Speaker 2: HBO Max. They just increased it. Everybody's increasing the streaming platforms.
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  Speaker 2: It's so stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody, we all need to just read books, honestly.
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  Speaker 3: Straight.
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  Speaker 1: Read books and get off these stupid platforms that produce
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  Speaker 1: trash anyway. I'm sorry. For real. I interrupted you.
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  Speaker 2: No, but for real. I'm glad that I had it
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  Speaker 2: on Max, but I still have to watch it with
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  Speaker 2: ads for $ 24 a month when I could have just gotten...
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  Speaker 2: a live TV subscription through Filo or something like that
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  Speaker 2: for the same amount of money. And I could have
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  Speaker 2: watched it last night, but I was like, no, I'll
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  Speaker 2: see it on Discovery +. I already pay like $ 10
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  Speaker 2: a month. It'll be a deal.
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  Speaker 1: You pay $ 11. 99 for Discovery +. I mean, they haven't
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  Speaker 1: really increased their rates that much. I think when we
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  Speaker 1: first signed up, it was $ 7. 99, then $ 9. 99. Now it's $ 11.
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  Speaker 2: 99.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like all such and shitified trash. Like, how
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  Speaker 1: dare you?
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  Speaker 2: How are you going to increase your prices? And then
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  Speaker 2: you're going to take away sister wives.
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  Speaker 1: It is your second most popular show on TLC behind
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  Speaker 1: 90 Day Fiance, which you do drop in a timely fashion.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just, I'm confused.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm upset. I've got flames and I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: talk about it and I'm just going to cut the cord.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get rid of Discovery Plus. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: going to probably purchase the season via Prime, but sometimes
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  Speaker 1: Prime doesn't drop the episodes in a timely fashion too.
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  Speaker 1: So this is all just messed up, Beatrice.
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  Speaker 2: It's BS.
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  Speaker 1: Well, tell us what you guys think. Are you guys
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  Speaker 1: watching on Discovery Plus? Did you guys see the episode?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. What are you going
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  Speaker 1: to do?
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So before the recap, let's do some takeaways because we
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  Speaker 1: both watched this episode. What are your thoughts, Beatrice?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, are we really talking about the backdoor
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  Speaker 2: dill again? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's all we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Again? The entire episode. I kept waiting for something new
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  Speaker 2: to pop up in the episode, but literally like the
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  Speaker 2: entire episode is the backdoor dill. And we have to
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  Speaker 2: have this whole conversation about how Janelle didn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Janelle wasn't involved. It was just Cody.
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  Speaker 1: With flashbacks.
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  Speaker 2: We have so many flashbacks.
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  Speaker 1: So many flashbacks. We all saw this.
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  Speaker 2: We've all seen it.
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  Speaker 1: Already.
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  Speaker 3: Like one million times.
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  Speaker 1: I just was like, is this where we're going? Because
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  Speaker 1: if this is your first episode and this is going
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  Speaker 1: to set the tone for the whole season, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: not feeling super confident about the entertainment in this season.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So my takeaway is, has to do with our girl
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  Speaker 1: Janelle of the Backdoor Dill. And I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the Backdoor Dill. We'll talk about it when
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  Speaker 1: we get there. But I just was like, I'm watching
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  Speaker 1: the scene with Janelle and Mary, where Janelle has made
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  Speaker 1: a special trip, I assume, from North Carolina to Utah
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  Speaker 1: to sit down with Mary and clear things up. But
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  Speaker 1: the way she bumbles and stutters and does not complete
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  Speaker 1: a sentence, and every single sentence is peppered with, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, you know, like their
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  Speaker 1: inability to communicate and just speak directly. Janelle could have
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  Speaker 1: just said, I absolutely did not ask him to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Why would I have done that, Mary, when I asked
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  Speaker 1: you two times previous to us settling Coyote Pass to
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  Speaker 1: get yourself a lawyer? I was clearly advocating for you
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  Speaker 1: and trying to help you. Why would I then change
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  Speaker 1: my tune and try to sabotage you? And put that
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  Speaker 1: shit back on Mary. Have an actual conversation, but none
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  Speaker 1: of these people can complete sentences. I was just like, Janelle,
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  Speaker 1: learn to talk. You're 50 something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for real.
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  Speaker 1: God, it was so annoying.
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  Speaker 2: She said more in her talking heads than she did
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  Speaker 2: to Mary.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, very much so.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, in your talking heads, you were pretty
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  Speaker 2: direct about it. And you were like upset and you
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  Speaker 2: were adamant that you had nothing to do with it.
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  Speaker 2: But then with Mary, you're like.
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  Speaker 1: Well, because Mary asked a couple of very insightful questions
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  Speaker 1: for which Janelle did not have an answer, but we
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  Speaker 1: will get to it. So that's my takeaway. Janelle, come on, girl.
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  Speaker 2: Get a grip.
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  Speaker 1: Learn how to have an adult conversation. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Without.
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  Speaker 1: further ado let's get into our recap of sister wives
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  Speaker 1: season 21 episode 1 entitled.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy big news omg and the episode starts off with
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  Speaker 2: the news that cody and robin are no longer going
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  Speaker 2: to be a part of the show and everyone is
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  Speaker 2: so shocked everyone is so surprised they can't even believe
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  Speaker 2: it they don't even know what to think so we
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  Speaker 2: check in with everybody about their thoughts about it Christine
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  Speaker 2: says the last time she saw Cody was at the
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  Speaker 2: apology tour and there was no inclination that he was
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  Speaker 2: not going to film with them. Janelle says the same thing,
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  Speaker 2: like the last time she kind of talked to him
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  Speaker 2: was at the apology. And then she also says, which
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  Speaker 2: I thought was interesting, that she feels like his apology
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  Speaker 2: tour was just for him to redeem his image somehow
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  Speaker 2: and that it wasn't that sincere, which is contrary to
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  Speaker 2: how she acted before. entirely contradictory when she got her
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  Speaker 2: apology because when she originally got her apology she was
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  Speaker 2: low-key swooning for cody fawning all over every word that
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  Speaker 2: he said creating a safe space for him to share
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  Speaker 2: his heart and also with the hearts in her eyes
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  Speaker 2: exactly janelle goes on to say that she has not
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  Speaker 2: spoken to cody and he hasn't made contact the assumption
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  Speaker 2: that i was under hearing her was that he has
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  Speaker 2: not even reached out to any of their kids. At all.
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  Speaker 2: She says it's been no contact since then. And it
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  Speaker 2: seems like from what we're to gather from this episode,
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  Speaker 2: that Janelle was upset by this apology tour because Cody,
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  Speaker 2: after the fact, brought up the backdoor deal. And she
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  Speaker 2: said that he publicly torpedoed her character. And so she's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: now you're not going to film. Okay, fuck you then.
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  Speaker 2: Which is kind of great that both Janelle.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been great if she said fuck you
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  Speaker 1: to his face. It would have been great if she
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  Speaker 1: had said fuck you to the camera for seasons already
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  Speaker 1: and defended her kids. I'm just sick of her.
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sick of her.
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  Speaker 2: That's great. But I do appreciate her saying fuck him
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  Speaker 2: on the episode. And I appreciate Mary saying fuck him
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  Speaker 2: as well. I think that's great.
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  Speaker 1: I guess so.
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  Speaker 3: We gotta take what we get.
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  Speaker 1: But really? You guys have to wait until he's not
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  Speaker 1: there to tell the truth? Are we that scared of
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  Speaker 1: the specter of Cody Brown?
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  Speaker 2: Well, maybe they were bound to some kind of contracts
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  Speaker 2: or something where they couldn't talk shit about him. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Who knows?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know either.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows? And so then we bop on over to
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  Speaker 2: Parowan at Jen's bike shop. And so we're there with Mary, Jen,
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  Speaker 2: and her friend Amber, her roommate. Hashtag lesbian lover. Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: And we check in with Mary a little bit who...
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  Speaker 2: Was surprised that Cody and Robin are not going to
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  Speaker 2: be on the show, but she's kind of whatever about it.
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  Speaker 2: She says life is very good for her. She's doing
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  Speaker 2: all of the things. She's still friends with Ron. She
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  Speaker 2: thinks that their relationship could turn into a romantic one.
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  Speaker 2: And then when we're at the bike shop, we have
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  Speaker 2: a little conversation with Mary, Jen, and Amber, where Mary
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  Speaker 2: says she's got to talk to Janelle. About this backdoor
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  Speaker 2: dill and this kind of sets up for later scenes
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  Speaker 2: in the episode where Mary's going to confront Janelle about
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  Speaker 2: it because after hearing about it last year she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: know what to think doesn't know what to believe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I hate this wishy-washy equivocating version of Mary you
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  Speaker 1: can't stand on business on any side.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I think it's kind of annoying that we're
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  Speaker 2: even having this conversation anyway. It feels very produced to me.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like the producers were like, let's start the
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  Speaker 2: episode about the backdoor deal. And I think all of
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  Speaker 2: this was produced. I think Mary and Janelle probably talked
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  Speaker 2: about it after the show off camera and probably resolved things.
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  Speaker 2: But for the show, for the sake of the TV,
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  Speaker 2: we have to pretend like there's some unresolved issues. And
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: Amber says something like, you know, it says a lot
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  Speaker 2: that Janelle wants to talk to you about it because
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  Speaker 2: Cody and Robin aren't talking to you at all. So
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  Speaker 2: we've got it confirmed from all three wives that Cody
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  Speaker 2: is not speaking to any of them. And so the
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  Speaker 2: implication is like, okay, you're not speaking to any of
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  Speaker 2: the kids either then? Like you're really just going to
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  Speaker 2: become a recluse with Robin and your McMansion next to
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: the mines? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And also Mary said something like, I invited them into
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  Speaker 1: the conversation about the backdoor deal, Robert and Cody. I
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: invited them to have that discussion, but there was crickets.
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  Speaker 1: There was no response. So I guess that they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to address it. So that too should tell you
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: that you should probably rely on what Janelle is telling you.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. I don't get why Mary thinks that Cody isn't
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: capable of doing something like this behind her back. She
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  Speaker 2: acts like It would be Janelle being the one that's
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  Speaker 2: sniping her from the back. Like, I just, I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand it, but it just goes to show how Mary
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  Speaker 2: has never trusted Janelle, has never liked Janelle, doesn't even
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  Speaker 2: like Christine. I think she's always been a bit of
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: a bitch, in my opinion, to the OG wives, and
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing it play out in real time. And then
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  Speaker 2: also in this conversation, Jen makes a comment about how
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  Speaker 2: Cody and Robin now have a thing for monogamy and
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: that's like their whole identity. And Mary makes a little
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  Speaker 2: comment that she says, well, it's been monogamy for them
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  Speaker 2: since 2010.
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  Speaker 1: Say more.
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  Speaker 2: Like, okay.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Does that mean your
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: sexual relationship with Cody is... was non-existent from 2010. Does
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  Speaker 1: that mean you had conversations with Cody or with the
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  Speaker 1: rest of your family about the status of your relationship?
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  Speaker 1: Say more. Elaborate.
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  Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't feel like
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Mary has ever made comments about Robin being favored by
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  Speaker 2: Cody at all since this relationship started. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: the ones that have been critical of Robin have been
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  Speaker 2: Christine for sure because she was jealous from the get-go
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  Speaker 2: and she was pretty honest about it. And then Janelle
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  Speaker 2: in the later seasons calling out, cody's favoritism but i
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: don't feel like mary has ever publicly said anything like
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  Speaker 2: that and so i think this is like her the
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  Speaker 2: closest we're ever going to get with her to admitting
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  Speaker 2: that cody and robin prefer each other and only each
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  Speaker 2: other and then she says well fuck him he's not
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  Speaker 2: feeling filming anymore so i don't care i'm like okay
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: that's great and all but i would like for some
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: more elaboration that'd be great and then we go to
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: salt lake city with christine and david and janelle And
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: we have a little bit of a conversation again about
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  Speaker 2: the backdoor deal and Janelle and Christine say that they
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: still have a close relationship at this point, but I'm
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: kind of doubting it a little bit. It seems like
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: they're going to become a little bit estranged now that
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Janelle's out in North Carolina. And we've talked about, uh,
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Christine and David's Instagram live over on Patreon and David's adamant.
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  Speaker 2: He's never going to be moving out there, even though
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of the kids and a lot of the
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: family are out in North Carolina and He's staying in
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Utah forever with Christine. So I don't know. I just,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of sussing out Janelle and Christine's relationship here.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think their energy levels are compatible. I think
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Janelle is so laid back and low key and grounded
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  Speaker 1: in her own life. And Christine is like so energetic
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: and so emotional and constantly like effusively expressing herself. Like
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I think it becomes a very overwhelming relationship. to a
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  Speaker 1: person like Janelle, just even in this conversation, because I
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: share a lot in common with Janelle in terms of temperament,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: but even in this conversation when they're in the kitchen
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: and Christine is interrupting her and finishing her sentences and
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: like so exuberant, I'm like, calm, calm down, calm, let,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: let somebody else take up space in the room or
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: in the scene. But Christine just can't do that. And
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I'm also getting the impression from Christine throughout her scenes
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: that that she's very much trying to produce herself, produce storylines,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: which makes me wonder why, like if you've got a
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: man who's got a great career and you've got your
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: side businesses, you're going on a cruise and everything, and
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: you're taking people, like you've got all these income streams.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Why are you so attached to Sister Wives? Why do
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: you need it so much that you're performing and tap
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: dancing like this? I think Janelle's tired of it. I
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: think I'm tired of it.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I would rather see some authenticity from Christine.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I would rather see authenticity from all of them, honestly.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I'm getting tired of just the performance in general and
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: us milking this cash cow forever. It's annoying. But in
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: the kitchen with Christine and David and Janelle, Janelle brings
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: up the backdoor deal and how she's going to have
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: a conversation with Mary. And again, Janelle is very careful
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: to say on the camera- I had nothing to do
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: with that. And there was no backdoor deal to begin with.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: And then she says something like, you know, I was
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: not scheming. And if I was scheming, y'all would never
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: know about it. And I'm like, hmm, interesting. And then
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Janelle brings up the fact that she was the one
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: to go to Mary years ago when she kind of
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: saw the writing on the wall with the Coyote Pass
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: property negotiations. Like she went to Mary and said, You
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: need to get a lawyer. Like, I really want you
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: to protect what's yours. I just feel like this isn't
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: going to be a good ending for anybody if we
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: don't protect our assets here. And that's true. Janelle did
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: do this. This was on camera. This was documented. And
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: when Janelle did that, may I remind everybody, Mary went
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to Cody and Robin and immediately ratted her out.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Immediately. Like, immediately. Took that bone right over with a check,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I want to say. Yep. With her final check.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I've been seeing a lot of people... going back and
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: forth on Reddit and the internet saying, you know, I
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: think Janelle totally did the backdoor deal. I think she's lying,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: but I'm seeing a lot of people being like, no,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, she did advocate for Mary to get a lawyer.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: And I do think she tried to do that. I
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: think Mary is the one that was the rock in
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: the way. Like it wasn't Robin. It wasn't, I think
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: it was Mary, like just kicking her feet and not knowing.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: What to do. And I think it's because they asked
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: her to sign an NDA and she would not do it.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: And I think Janelle had already done it. My personal
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: opinion about the backdoor deal is that it was probably
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: not as formal as all that. But I can see
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Janelle having a conversation after becoming exasperated with how long
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: it was taking because she just wants to get paid out.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: She wants to use that money to fund her flower
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: farm and her new home. And so she's trying to
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: pull Mary along this entire time. Like, get a lawyer.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Advocate for yourself. Do not trust these people. Mary is
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: not listening to her for something like two years. And
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: so finally, Janelle's like, maybe made a flip comment or
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: maybe had some sort of loose discussion with Cody in
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: which she said, well, you could sell it anyway. You
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: don't really need her. Something flippant like that. Again, not formal.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: They didn't take it to an attorney. I can see
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: her doing that, but I can also see why she
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: would do that with a difficult person like Mary standing
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: in the way.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: And I've been seeing a lot of people echo that
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: sentiment online and saying like, you know, if you've never
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: been in like a high stakes situation, negotiation process like
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: this with multiple pieces of land with multiple people's names
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: on it like of course this would even this would
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: be a possibility that would be brought up or even
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: thought about it doesn't necessarily mean that janelle wanted to
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: do that or advocated for that or there was anything
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: in writing or anything official but i think mary like
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: i said earlier just doesn't trust janelle doesn't trust any
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: anybody at all because she's always got her walls up
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And so I think that's why she was... more willing
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to believe Cody for some fucking reason, because she's kind
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: of a simp for him and was back then. And
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: that's why we're in this mess now. But Janelle in
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: this episode is very keen on trying to redeem her
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: character a little bit with this and be like, no,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: like I had nothing to do with it. And I
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: can kind of understand why, because Cody did shit all
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: over her last year with this backdoor deal and she
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: had no idea until the tell-alls and stuff. So I
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: get it. It's just so Why do you care though?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Do you really want to have a relationship with Mary?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Like who cares?
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It's done.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: The only reason she would care is that she's trying
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: to keep sister wives on life support.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: She's going to need to have some sort of a
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: professional relationship with this woman. So they might as well
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: make nice on camera. That's the only reason. Cause if
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I'm Janelle, I'm never talking to Mary again. For real.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Why would you? And she does kind of say that
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: throughout this episode, like me and Mary are probably never
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: going to get along ever in our lives. Because our
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: personalities are too different and she's just a bitch. I'm paraphrasing.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: And it's just never going to work out. So like
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: this really is just for the show.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: And or it's for what they mentioned in this episode
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: was like if there are going to be some future
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: family events, we'd like to be able to attend and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: not have any weird, awkward energy like we can get along.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So maybe we just need to bury the hatchet.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: And I can see that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, why would you even have any weird
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: energy with any of these women? Like you should have
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the weird energy with Cody and Robin and that's it.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: In my opinion. But then we go back to Christine
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: and David. Janelle's gone and we're having this like weird
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: segment in their kitchen and on the couch where they're
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: like making a tortilla burrito sandwich.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: With peanut butter and jelly.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: With peanut butter and jelly.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm just like, that's the whitest thing I've ever
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: heard of. It's so white.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: It's terrible white.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: My whole life.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And then we're like talking about Coyote Pass again. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: David low-key said something pretty base here. He's like, if
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I have to hear about Coyote Pass again, I'm going
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: to puke. And honestly say.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Me too, David.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like so over it. He's like, it's like four
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: kids just fighting over a piece of licorice. Like it's
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: done now. Why are we even bothering? And you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I agree. We don't need to be talking about this
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: anymore anymore. And then again, Christine like brings up Cody's
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: perspective of the backdoor deal and how, you know, he
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: says Janelle came to him wanting to underhand Mary. But
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: then Janelle is saying that actually it was Cody who
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: brought it up and she had nothing to do with it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And David says something kind of weird where he's like,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: do you really think that's how the story actually happened
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: or how the event actually happened? And I wasn't sure
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: if he was making kind of a snide comment to
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Janelle or if he was making a comment to Cody.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Sounded like he was being more critical to Cody, but
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: It kind of gave me like he was being critical
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to Janelle for some reason. I don't know, but maybe
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: it was just the way that it was edited. And
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: then he says that all of this was just polygamous games.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Christine does talk about how Robin and Janelle were the
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: only wives that were allowed to have their names on
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: a piece of property with Cody only. They didn't have
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: to share with anybody else, but Christine and Mary had
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: to have other people on their pieces of property. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Christine says this was flat out because Cody didn't trust
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Christine or Mary, which I thought was a very poignant observation.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I never really thought about it like that.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't either.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: But it does make sense. And people have said for
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: many years that Janelle was the original Robin for a
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: long time. And then Robin came along and she trumped
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: everybody else. So I don't know. I just thought that
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: was kind of interesting. It's like the one good comment
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: we get from Christine this whole episode. And then David
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: says something like, Cody sounds like a sore loser. The
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: producer asks David about Christine's past, and he's like, I'm
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: tired of talking about it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm tired of hearing about it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, you are on the show. You
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: guys have only been married for a couple years. Like,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: she does have a long history. You're going to have
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: to hear about it a lot. But I can also
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: understand the sentiment of, like, we've been talking about Coyote
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Pass for many years. We've been talking about Cody and
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: how he's a piece of shit. Like, can we just
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: move on?
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about our life now and what we're
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: building and what we're doing. Stop being focused on Cody.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And that's basically it. And then we have Mary meeting
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: up with Janelle in some park.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Did Janelle look like she was limping a little bit?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Kind of. Her gait looked a little off to me.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she's walked like that before, though.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, maybe. I don't know. I hope she's doing okay.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. But we show up at the park.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: This is where we talk about the backdoor deal. And
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: to the camera, Janelle is very direct. Yes. She's like,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with this. I don't know
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: why Mary would believe Cody over me. Like I advocated
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: for her to get a lawyer. I advocated for her
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: to make sure she gets her fair share. Like I
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: had nothing to do with this. Cody is just a liar.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: But then when she's with Mary in the park.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Hemming and hawing.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Like she's not, she's not saying any of that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: She's not saying much of anything. And I'm wondering, like,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: are you intimidated by Mary somehow? Like, does she just
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: destabilize you? so much that you can't complete a thought
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: because it's not hard to just say I did not
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: do that I know he's saying that I did that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I did not do that and I wouldn't do that
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and that's just it and you can believe what you
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: want but I'm here to tell you face to face
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that I did not do.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: That and like she doesn't say any of that at
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: all and I don't know if that was edited out
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: on TLC's part or what I doubt it but it
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: just this conversation felt like a nothing burger to me
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: like we're building up to this point in the episode
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: for like a half an hour and then we get
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: there and it's just kind of like whatever.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: It was a dud it also kind of felt like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: some sort of a loyalty test on mary's side like
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: she's showing up to see if she can trust janelle
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and i'm just like mary shut up why would janelle
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: want to be your friend what about all the things
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: that you did to the rest of the wives to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: betray them come on give me a break mary putting
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: holding yourself out there as some sort of moral authority
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: i do not think so.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Seriously Janelle does say though that Cody was talking about
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: holding some of the money and like selling Coyote Pass,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: holding some of the money for Mary of what he
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: deemed she was allowed to have. And Janelle says he
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: was only going to give that to Mary if Mary
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: ended up doing the things that he wanted him to do,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: which I can assume maybe is like signing the NDA
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: or something like that. And then, um, janelle also said
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that cody thought they were all due a certain amount
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: of money like he didn't think that they were going
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to get the full amount for their parcels who knows
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: mary does ask a very important question here she's like
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: well you ever thought to just like tell me that
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and i'm like okay i don't like mary too much
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: but that's a fair question why didn't you say any
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: of that janelle And maybe it's to your point that
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: she is intimidated by Mary and she's a non-confrontational person
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and doesn't want to stir the pot. And maybe she thought,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: because Janelle kind of says this, like, these were just
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: one-off conversations, one-off comments that Cody made.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: You know how Cody is.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Like, I didn't think that he was being serious. And
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, Janelle, if that's really what you thought,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: that's such a passive way to go about it. Like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: when you are dealing with something as high stakes as...
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: a bunch of fucking money, hundreds of thousands of dollars
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: for Coyote Pass. Like, why didn't you do Mary a
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: solid and tell her anything?
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: If I'm Janelle, I would have said, well, because by
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: then I was exasperated with you, Mary. And I had
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: been waiting for something to happen. And the way that
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I understood it, you were the one that was holding
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: out for something. And it was costing me a lot
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: of money. And so when he said that, you know, yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: it's Cody. These are the types of things he says.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I didn't take it seriously. But I'm
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: also not going to run back to you and tell
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: you again that. to get a lawyer again yeah i
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: mean you could just say that right but she can't
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: say anything.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: And that's probably what it was honestly yes i think
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: that's exactly what it was like i think she just
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: can't verbalize it because mary scares her or whatever and
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: so then at the end of the conversation mary says
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: to the camera like look i'm not going to take
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: any sides i've been very clear that i'm not going
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: to take any sides even though she took cody and
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: robin's side but whatever she's like you're.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Taking a side by not taking a side mary I'm
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: calling Cody out. He's an abusive polygamist.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Well, yes. But she does say that humans will do
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: whatever they can. They'll tell whatever stories they can to
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: make themselves look good. And I thought that that was
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: pretty poignant.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Including you, Mary.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Look in the mirror, Lady and Miss Catfish. We've
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: been doing the rewinds in season 10 and 11.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Can I just give some breath to what I'm trying
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to say here, though? It's like by not coming out
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: against Cody and Robin and how Cody treated his children
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and how Cody financially exploited his wives. By not speaking
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: out about that, you are taking a side. Your silence
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: is a side, in my opinion. When you've put yourself
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: on television for 20 seasons with this man and you've
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: ridden with him and you have pretended to support him,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: if it was a lie and you're trying to pepper
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: in these comments like, well, he was a monogamous since 2010.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: If it was a lie, then it is incumbent upon you,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: meaning it is your responsibility to unravel the lies that
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you have told. I honestly think she's still simping.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Simping ain't easy, but it pays the bills, honey. And
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's what she's doing. And I don't have
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: any respect for it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She's annoying. And this whole conversation with Janelle was
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: kind of pointless to me. It kind of felt like
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: they already had this conversation before. And now we're just
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: having it again on camera. And so it's kind of
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: a nothing burger and it doesn't mean anything. Janelle says
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: to the camera, like, I thought this was over, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: apparently not. But I said what I had to say
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: and I was sincere so they can believe it or not.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: She's like, whatever.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Period.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I'm putting it on the table, even though I didn't
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: say much of anything in this conversation. Believe it or not.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: And so then we shift to the last part of
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the episode, which we'll get into more next week, apparently.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: We're leaving on a cliffhanger. But the OG3. What a
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: dud of a cliffhanger.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see them swap photographs.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: It's so dumb.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: In an Airbnb.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: We're going to have so many flashbacks. But the OG3
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: are going to get together and they're going to go
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: through family photos. They're going to like trade some off.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: According to Christine, they're going to trade a few out that,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: you know, they don't all have together because all of
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: their family photos and stuff have been jumbled up through
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: the years. And they're also going to share some recipes.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: And Mary has a lot of those photos because she
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: used to be the photographer.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And so we're at her haunted B & B. She's
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: going through her photographs. And honestly, she pissed me off
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: real bad because she is with Jen and Amber again.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: And she says, yeah, I mean, I don't know why
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: like Christine wants to meet with me. Like I've had
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with her. She doesn't want anything to
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: do with me. So I've got my walls up and
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I've got my guard up, but apparently they want to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: go through photos. And Jen and Amber are kind of
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: advocating a little bit for the OG3 being like, well,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: but like, is it that big of a deal? Like
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: you guys raised this family together. You guys probably have
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: all of your photos and stuff mixed up. Like maybe
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: they want some of them. Mary's like, Janelle probably has
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: no photos cause she never took any. And Christine probably
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: has a few. I was the photograph photographer for out
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: most of our years. And I'm not giving up any
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: of my photos. When Mary's saying like, I'm not going
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: to bring everything and they can just deal with it
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: and they can figure it out. I'm like, you don't
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: need to be hoarding this when, especially when you don't
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: want anything to do with basically the rest of the family.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: You don't want anything to do with Christine. And so
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: therefore you're probably not going to have anything to do
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: with her kids. You don't want anything to do with Janelle,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: and also, therefore, you don't want anything to do with
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: her kids. So what are you going to do? Just
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: sit with all of the family photos from 30 years
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: of history, and you're just going to keep them in
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: your haunted B & B?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: So devil's advocate, Mary has been watching the seasons back.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: She's not actually interacting or spending any time with these women.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: She sees Christine say multiple times, I want nothing to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: do with Mary. We are never going to be friends.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Janelle never spoke as harshly as Christine, but Christine certainly did.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm sure she's carrying some upset and or anger
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: around that. And I'm sure she's a little confused as
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: to why Christine now all of a sudden wants to
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: get together and have this scene with all the pictures. Well,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: it's because she's producing, Mary. It's because they're trying to
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: make a show, Mary. That's why. But I can see
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: why she would feel like her wall was up, that
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: This is probably not a genuine interaction. This is probably
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: for the show. And why would Christine even want to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: meet with me? Because she doesn't like me anyway.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I get it. I don't. I think it's bitchy.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like all of these people are immature.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like I would have conducted myself entirely different
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: the whole time. But these are the people we're dealing with.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: And I can see from Mary's perspective why she'd feel
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's petty. I'm just going to say out there.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's super petty. I think that you can
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: suck it up and be the bigger person and know
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: that this is something that's bigger than any of your
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: petty struggles that you've had over the last 30 years,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: any of your hurt feelings and stuff like that. Like
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: this is bigger than that, especially given that you lost
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: a child recently. Like maybe you have a bunch of
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: baby photos of Garrison that, you know, Janelle would want
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: or Christine would want because she helped raise him. Like
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: they're entitled to that just because you have these in
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: your attic in the haunted B & B.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And you want to lord them over everybody like, Fuck you.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: So she tells Amber and Jen, you know, I'm going
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: to bring some of these photos and we'll see what happens.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to expect. And then we shift
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: gears a little bit. We go to North Carolina and
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: we're going to go look at Janelle's home that she built.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: And that was cool, I guess.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I liked that. I liked that.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: And I liked kind of the conversation we had with
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Janelle and Maddie, which was pretty enlightening a little bit.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: So it's been two years since they purchased the flower
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: farm and in two years they built not one but
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: two houses and they've gotten a lot of work done.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: We saw the aerial views like they cleared out a
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: lot of land and the houses look really nice. Looks
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: like Maddie's house is gonna be right across the street
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: from Janelle's which is so great.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: That's like my dream.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I love that and Janelle's really happy that this is
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: her own home and that you know she did this
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: all by herself. She talks about how you know, throughout
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: her life. Every decision's been made by committee. And so
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: this feels really weird to make this decision completely on
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: her own, but she's like really happy about it. And
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you can tell she's really excited. And then the kids
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: come over to look at Janelle's house and Maddie makes
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: the comment of like, yeah, so in two years we
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: did all this. We built two houses. How long did
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you have Coyote Pass? What did you even build out there?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: And this was like the only flashback that I kind
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: of appreciated because Janelle says that they had Coyote Pass
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: for like seven years and all they put on there
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: was like a culvert and maybe some water tanks. Like
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: they made no headway. And Janelle says that, you know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Coyote Pass was her dream. She loved it out there.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: It was like the perfect property. And of course, nobody
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: wanted to do jack fucking nope shit and you can
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: tell she's bitter about it but i'm glad that she
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: has her house.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Well what did you think of the house i thought
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: it was cute and the appointments.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I thought it was really pretty actually i thought it
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: was like perfect for janelle it was like nice space
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: it's better than her dorm apartment that we saw her
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: having or.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: The six wheel five wheel the fifth wheel fifth wheel
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: yeah the fifth wheel oh my god yeah and when
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: savannah came in yeah have a look for it because
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: savannah really took the brunt of her being displaced, you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: cause the boys were already out and it was like
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: just her and Janelle trying to find a place to live.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: So it was nice to see Savannah come in and
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: for Janelle to feel like she could offer her children.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: A home base, just a place that they could always
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: come back to.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And that got me in my feels because Janelle did
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: say like all she's wanted her whole life was to
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: have a home base for the kids. And they never
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: got to have that because they were always moving around
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: and bopping around. And that got to me in my
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: feels because I never really had that. Like I moved
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: around a lot growing up. I don't have like a
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: one hometown or one place I'm really from because I
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: was moving around that much. And I think it's great
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: that she has that. But I was thinking about the
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: short that you made recently about how like there's this
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: rumor that maybe Janelle might be relocating to Las Vegas
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: to be with her man.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Well, she's trying to figure out what she's going to
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: do with Pete because they are long distance and they're
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to change that. Meaning he
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: either comes to North Carolina.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: He better.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Or she goes to Las Vegas or they meet somewhere
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: in the middle. But like the looming question is, does
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: that mean you would leave the project behind of the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: flower farm. And of course she hasn't spoken to that.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: And I would just imagine she wouldn't do that. But again,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: that was what I was worried about. And it wasn't
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: just me. There were a lot of people asking that
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: particular question. I just don't know what she's going to do.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: That would make me so mad if she did that.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Because hearing her talk about the flower farm with Maddie
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: in this episode, like she says very like directly, like
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: this is our dream. This has been our dream for
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: many years. This is what we wanted to do even
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: on Coyote Pass and we never got to do it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: And Maddie and Caleb are very much like doer type
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: of people. They get it done. They're getting shit done.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And you said you wanted it and so we're doing it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: And so I hope to God she doesn't abandon it
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: for Pete.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Well, some folks on Reddit were talking about some of
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the Instagram reels that Maddie and Janelle have been doing.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: over the time on the farm. And it's always Maddie
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: with a child strapped to her chest working in the farm.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: And it's always Janelle recording or talking or creating content,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: but like it just appears, not saying this is how
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: it is, but it kind of appears that Maddie is
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the one doing a lot of the hard work. And
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that Janelle is also doing a lot
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of hard work too, to build their dream.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I'm a little.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Dubious and I'm a little worried. I think when we
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: see Pete, and we see how sprung Janelle truly is
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: for Pete, we'll have a better sense of what she's
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: ultimately going to do.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: She would be so crazy to abandon that for just
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: a man.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Janelle, you're 55 or 56, and that's not old or anything,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: but you've just set your course on a new path
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: with people who are depending on you, and that's what
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I was worried about. And no man, no man is
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: worth giving up what you have just set into motion
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: with Maddie. I've got to believe she knows that and
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: feels that. And any... Any sort of decision she makes
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: with Pete is going to consider the farm, her daughter,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and her new home.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I would hope so. Pete better move over to North Carolina.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Is he some sort of homosexual or something like that?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I know he's a construction worker, and
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: they can make a lot of money. Tradies make a
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: lot of money, but you could do that stuff in
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. For sure. But is he here just to
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: be on camera? Girl. Is he here just because he
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: needs a house to live in and she's got a
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: brand new house? We will get our monocle out.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: We will.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: And check out Pete. We'll come to our determination.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: He recently just made a public Instagram. And all of
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: his photos and stuff are him and Janelle. Right. And
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay. You're kind of giving Cloud Goblin vibes.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe Janelle asked him to. Maybe TLC asked him to.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: We shall see.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I've just had enough of David personally. I don't need
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: another side guy of the OG3.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: That's how the episode ends as we go back to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: christine and david we have more scenes with christine and
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: david the cluttering it is the cluttering and she's also
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: going through photos and she talks about how she's been
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: done with mary for a while but she wants to
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: meet with her and janelle to go through everything she
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: does tell the story of her cluttering and hucking it
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: into a field because cody refused to put a diamond
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: in it but then once robin came into the family
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: he immediately put a diamond on that ring. And so
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Christine realized at that point in time, which we know
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: because she put this in her book, that she meant
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: nothing to Cody. And I'm just like, why do we
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: have to talk about this story again? They only tell
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: us stories that they want us to Very curated. Like,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: there's so many other stories, I'm sure. Oh, God, a million.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: There's so many other memories and things that we can
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: go back and talk about. And I've been seeing a
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: lot of people on Reddit suggesting the same thing I
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: suggested a couple days ago, that we should be doing
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: a Sister Wives look back.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Jen and Mary actually did that. Well, not a look back.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: They actually did a reaction to... They listened to me.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: They listened to you, Beatrice. They did a reaction to
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the first episode. They watched it and they commented on it. Amazing.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yes. We should react to it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we should. Well, I don't know. React to their reaction.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Inception of Sister Wives. Yeah. Why not? Well, I was
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: very curious to see what Mary had to say about
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: some of the things that Janelle was saying. Like, why
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: didn't you believe me? Why would you believe Cody? But
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: she's hosting it on Facebook, which... I just can't, dude.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Boomer Central. Boomer's going hog wild over there on Facebook.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, it's so glitchy. It's full of ads.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: It's just a terrible platform.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: And AI content.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: So we would have to go on Facebook to watch it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: God.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I'm very resistant to that.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I feel you there. But we end the episode basically
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: with David saying something like he hopes when the OG3
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: get together and go through photos that they can kind
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: of get some healing. So that way, whenever they do
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: get together, they're not like throwing daggers at each other.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, do these OG3 really hate each other
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: that much? That's crazy to me. And then we kind
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: of get into a preview, although it was kind of
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: a weird preview. It ended quite abruptly where we have
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the OG3 meeting up at a rented townhouse to go
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: through the photos. Janelle says that, you know, they don't
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: really have problems now. They were only tense with each
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: other when they were all married to Cody. And so,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: you know, we can all be chill and civil now.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: And then Christine says that the last time she actually
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: talked to Mary alone by herself was when Utah decriminalized polygamy.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: And we had like a flashback.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, is that really the last time you
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: spoke to her?
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that like 2014 or 2015? That was a long
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: time ago.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, maybe.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no. No, it was Flagstaff. That's right.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: So it was like 2018, 2017.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: It was around COVID.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Because it was before the divorce.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I can't keep it all together. Was it before COVID?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: though i think so or after during covid they were
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: all outside on yeah i can't remember during covid whatever
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: yeah okay i guess she did talk one-on-one with mary
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: when mary told her to look at the mountain.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah and i think that was kind of what it
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: was because christine in that flashback said you know why
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: aren't we going back to utah i'm wondering what the
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: hell we're even doing wasting her time out here essentially
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: and i think that was the conversation of mary being like.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Look at the mountain thanks mary.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: She's so inspirational.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I'm really glad that she has a platform for that.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I know. Maybe we should sign up for that. Oh, God.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Whenever I'm feeling down on myself, I'm going to sign
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: up for the inspiration tier on Worthy of.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: For the newsletter. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Was there anything
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: else in the preview that was new? Because mostly it
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: was like the season preview that we've already watched, right?
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I think this is going to be a
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: short season.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I hope so.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: There is no 25 episodes of season 21. There is
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: just not a lot here. I just don't know what
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: we're going to do. I don't know how we go on.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: My prediction is that a lot of people tuned in
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: for the first episode. You're probably going to have a
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: lot of people tune in again for the second episode.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: But after that, I think we're going to see a
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: precipitous drop. I think people are just going to be like,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: is this what we're doing? This is boring. I do
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: not care. You kind of do need to have a
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: villain in order for a reality television show to work out. Now,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: is there a chance that a new villain can emerge?
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: And if so, who would that villain be?
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: It would be Mary. It would probably be Mary.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: It would be Mary. It could be Mary. But I
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: don't think Mary's going to want to participate in that.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: And I don't think the other women are going to
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: want to do it either. It's going to be a
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: bland recitation or telling of their bland lives. it is
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be like it's gonna be david and christine
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: going to counseling.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: And making tortilla sandwiches peanut butter and jelly burritos well
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: i have never i've been alive a long time on
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: planet earth i have never seen a peanut butter and
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: jelly burrito.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah i've seen it have you it's just is this
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the content we're going to be doing probably From a
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: meta perspective, I don't know how you can keep this
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: show on.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I just don't think they can. I don't think that
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: they can keep pumping out seasons like this because nobody's
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: going to watch it. And then it's like, what are
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: you going to do? Are you just going to run
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: the season into the ground? We talked about it last season,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: how that should have been the last season.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: It should have. It would have been perfect.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Like it would have been the perfect way to end it.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And then we could have established a spinoff with the
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: OG wives or something. And then we would totally have
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: watched that if it was like a different format and
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. But like, If we're really going to
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: talk about stuff that we've been watching for the last
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: five years, like that's crezé to me.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: And if you're going to continue to like hide.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And not tell us the full truth.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: And lie about stuff.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Especially when Cody and Robin aren't here.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Why in the world would we do that? Well, let's
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: kind of take it back for a second to Cody
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and Robin.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Because we had the discussion and everybody's been wondering like,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: what are they really going to do? Are they really out?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Do they have something waiting in the wings?
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Is there another show that maybe they're going to be on?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Is it on TLC? Is it on something else? Is
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: maybe Cody going to be on Traders? Like we've talked
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: a lot about this. And one of my theories was
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: that Cody would be waiting in the wings to see
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: how the season would go and then re-approach TLC at
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the mid or end of the season. Because listen, here
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get crazy with my theories. If he
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: approaches mid-season 21 and this show is tanking, He could
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: negotiate something fire like coming back for the tell-alls.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: That'd be crazy.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Showing up on set and giving his feedback to what
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: he just watched in season 21 and ripping everybody a
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: new a-hole. Like, we'd all watch that, and you know
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: that's a fact. He could do that, and he could
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: negotiate a hefty sum for that, or he could wait
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: until the whole season plays out, and he'll say, okay, well,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: compare and contrast season 20, season 19, season 18 with
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: season 21. Look at the views in the audience. This
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: was your second most popular show on your entire network.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gone and now the show's done unless, unless you
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: bring me back and I want double what you gave
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: me before and Robin doesn't have to film and he
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: trots out.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: All of his demands i think there's a couple wild
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: cards with that that would maybe dissuade him from coming
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: back one would be robin maybe robin's the one that
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: was like we're not filming anymore because i can't handle
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: the heat and you're bringing a bunch of heat to
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: our family and we gotta worry about sol and ari
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: it's not safe and aurora and it's not safe it's
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: not safe and so maybe she's the one that advocated
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: for him and her to stop she's motivated by money
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: though The other thing would be if Cody and Robin
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: were fired from TLC. Because if they were fired, they
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: were like, you're never coming back. I don't think that
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: they would have a way to negotiate coming back on
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: the show because TLC could see... They're writing on the wall.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Like even though they know that Cody and Robin were
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: prime rage bait, if they were like maybe saying things
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: that they weren't allowed to say the last couple of
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: seasons and breaching contracts.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was the NDAs.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was like demanding that fellow castmates sign NDAs
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: and they're like, you can't be doing that.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: On one of our shows.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: And so if TLC fired them and that's the reason
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: why they're not on the show, I don't think they
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: can come back. But I have been seeing a lot
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: of people online saying like, you know, how long can
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: we take? Can we take bets? How long are Cody
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and Robin going to stay silent? throughout this season because
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: i feel like with the narcs that they are they're
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: gonna have to like react some way but maybe they're
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: just straight up done i.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Think the coolest move is to do nothing i think
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: this right now what they're doing is the coolest thing
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to do because people are wondering we're definitely talking about
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: it we are going to be trashing this show because
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: it is gonna suck And they're just going to be
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: sitting there going, yep, it was us. We were carrying
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the show. And we're going to have to agree with that.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: But he's such a blowhard.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: He is.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: He's such a fanciful narcissist. He's going to find a
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: way to be in the zeitgeist again.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think she wants any part of it. I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: think she wants the money. I think she would be
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: open to Cody returning in some capacity if it were
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: possible because she wants the money. But I don't think
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: she wants the smoke. I don't think she wants to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: be on social media. I don't think she wants to
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: do the tell-alls. I don't think she wants to be
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: a part of it at all.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: If they come back for the tell-alls, though, that would
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: be amazing. If they came back as like a surprise,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: they were like, after the whole season, Cody and Robin
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: have something to say. oh my god that'd be insane
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: or like just a special oh my god react a
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: look back with cody robin look back look back at
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: season 21 they're like we we're breaking our silence like
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: that would be so fucking crazy oh man it's not
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: like i want that it's just like i want the
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: drums i want that i'm totally toxic and i want
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: i want like the craziness and stuff like that because
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: if we're not getting any kind of gossip or if
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: we're not getting any look backs from the og wives
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: like what are we doing.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Well if they're not going to give us some drama
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: if they're not going to like actually give us some
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: truth about what's happening in this family and what went
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: down in these previous seasons that we've all sensed but
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: they never confirmed, then make this final season, season 21,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: about making up with each other, about bringing the kids together,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: about having family reunions, about setting a new tone going
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: forward for the OG3 and for the rest of the
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: kids in a very positive way. Just like season 20
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: was Cody doing his apology tour. Maybe you three can
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: spend season 21 kind of doing a makeup tour and
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: getting the family back together again. and in a good way.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Like that would be really great.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: And I would love to watch that. I think that'd
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: be very wholesome. I think it'd be a good way
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: to end the series too. Like if we could have
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: this like happy ending basically after the years of craziness
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: and toxicity, that would be really awesome. But I don't
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: really have hope for that.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Given Mary's fucking tone and Christine's tone a little bit
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: too about how she's done with Mary and Mary's done
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: with Christine and Janelle.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: It's like, And also David and Christine going to therapy.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're interested in wrapping it up if
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: they're still trying to bring some drama forth.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: And he's not interested in her past either.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: No, he doesn't want to do it. We shall see
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: what happens. We'll continue to have the conversation.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Let us know your guys' thoughts. You guys can call
• 50:21
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• 50:24
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• 50:26
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• 50:31
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• 50:34
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• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Guys think it's the final season call speakpipe yeah do
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you guys think cody and robin's gonna be making an
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: appearance at the tell-alls are they gonna come back next
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: season leave us a speak what do you think of
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: mary and her hair oh my god what do you
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: think of janelle and the backdoor dill i mean we
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: talked about it a lot last season but like after
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: we hear janelle address it Very directly, what do you think?
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Do we believe her? And what do you think of Christine?
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: God.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Leave a speak pipe. Well, okay, Beatrice, is there anything
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: else that we need to say to these beautiful raccoons
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: before we get up on out of here?
• 51:06
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• 51:10
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• 51:12
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• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you, and we'll be back next week to continue
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: to talk about Sister Wives. Until then, please do not
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: forget that we have nothing but love for you, and...
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Peace out.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Bye, guys.