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- 0:21Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Lovett.
- 0:23Speaker 2: I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Dan and I just had a chance to talk to
- 0:25Speaker 1: Vice President Joe Biden. We asked him about the debate
- 0:28Speaker 1: and We asked him about Donald Trump's lack of a
- 0:31Speaker 1: second term agenda and the stakes in this election. It
- 0:34Speaker 1: was a great conversation. So, you know, listen to it.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Returning to Pod Save America, he's the first person to
- 0:48Speaker 1: ever win three presidential debates in only two attempts. Please
- 0:52Speaker 1: welcome Vice President Joe Biden, thanks for being here.
- 0:56Speaker 3: It's great to be with you. Thank you.
- 0:58Speaker 1: As Leslie Stahl said to Donald Trump before he walked
- 1:00Speaker 1: out on the interview, are you ready for some tough questions?
- 1:04Speaker 3: You guys, I know it wouldn't be easy. I'd rather
- 1:06Speaker 3: be on Fox. They make it easier for me.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Wait till you see these fastballs coming at you.
- 1:12Speaker 3: I know. I'm happy to be with you. Thanks for
- 1:14Speaker 3: having me.
- 1:14Speaker 2: I want to start with last night's debate. On that
- 1:18Speaker 2: debate stage, and actually throughout this campaign, President Trump has
- 1:20Speaker 2: lobbed false accusation after a false accusation about your son, Hunter,
- 1:25Speaker 2: for doing things that we know for a fact that
- 1:28Speaker 2: Donald Trump's children have been doing, profiting from the presidency. Yet,
- 1:33Speaker 2: both last night and throughout this campaign, you have not
- 1:35Speaker 2: brought up his children's activities. And I assume that that's
- 1:38Speaker 2: a specific decision. I'm curious why you've made it.
- 1:40Speaker 3: It's a specific decision, and I just think it's crass.
- 1:44Speaker 3: I mean, I just, I've never thought it was... Look,
- 1:50Speaker 3: I'm running against Donald Trump, not his children. And the
- 1:55Speaker 3: American people want to hear about their families, not about
- 1:59Speaker 3: Trump's family or my family. Although I'm very proud of
- 2:02Speaker 3: my family. But I just think it's just not how
- 2:08Speaker 3: I was raised. It's that basic. It's Donald Trump.
- 2:13Speaker 1: So also in the debate, Trump seemed to think he
- 2:15Speaker 1: had a kind of gotcha moment there at the end
- 2:17Speaker 1: when you talked about transitioning away from oil and fossil fuels,
- 2:21Speaker 1: even though ending subsidies for those industries is very popular.
- 2:24Speaker 1: And he really wishes you'd say you'd ban fracking, even
- 2:27Speaker 1: though you haven't. At the same time, you've set these
- 2:29Speaker 1: ambitious climate goals as part of your plan. And a
- 2:32Speaker 1: lot of polling shows that climate change is the number
- 2:34Speaker 1: one issue among young people, particularly among young people deciding
- 2:37Speaker 1: whether or not to vote. What is your message to
- 2:40Speaker 1: those young people who are passionate about this issue and
- 2:43Speaker 1: but skeptical that they can count on you or really
- 2:46Speaker 1: any politician to actually deliver and take this issue with
- 2:49Speaker 1: the urgency it demands?
- 2:51Speaker 3: It's the number one issue facing humanity. And it's the
- 2:55Speaker 3: number one issue for me. And all the way back
- 2:58Speaker 3: in the 80s, I'm the first person ever, ever to
- 3:02Speaker 3: lay out the need to deal with global warming. And
- 3:08Speaker 3: PolitiFact said, check it out, it was a game changer.
- 3:12Speaker 3: But it's just the way in which this campaign had
- 3:14Speaker 3: been run from the beginning about me in the primaries
- 3:17Speaker 3: that it just never got traction. Look, climate change is
- 3:22Speaker 3: the existential threat to humanity, the existential threat to humanity. Unchecked,
- 3:28Speaker 3: it is going to actually bake this planet. This is
- 3:32Speaker 3: not hyperbole. It's real. And we have a moral obligation.
- 3:36Speaker 3: There's not many things. Dan and I worked together a
- 3:38Speaker 3: long time. You don't hear me often invoke a moral obligation.
- 3:42Speaker 3: We have a moral obligation, not just to young people.
- 3:45Speaker 3: We have a moral obligation to everyone. Look what's happening
- 3:48Speaker 3: right now. You just look around the United States of America.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Forests are burning at a rate larger than Connecticut and
- 3:56Speaker 3: Rhode Island combined being lost. People are losing their homes,
- 4:00Speaker 3: their lives. In the middle of the country, we're in
- 4:02Speaker 3: a situation where you have 100-year floods occurring every several years.
- 4:07Speaker 3: wiping out entire counties and doing great damage. And by
- 4:13Speaker 3: the way, as Dan, you may remember, the first thing
- 4:15Speaker 3: that Barack and I were told about when we went
- 4:18Speaker 3: over to the Defense Department, they said the greatest security
- 4:27Speaker 3: threat America faces is climate change because what's going to
- 4:31Speaker 3: happen is you're going to see massive movements of populations
- 4:34Speaker 3: fighting over land, fighting over the ability to live, and
- 4:39Speaker 3: it is an existential threat. And so I just think,
- 4:43Speaker 3: but also presents an enormous opportunity. It's a bizarre, you know,
- 4:49Speaker 3: we're one of the few countries in the world that's
- 4:50Speaker 3: always been able to take things that are serious problems
- 4:53Speaker 3: and turn them into opportunities. It's also the vehicle by
- 4:56Speaker 3: which we can not only save the planet, but we
- 4:59Speaker 3: can generate such economic growth and lead the world. But
- 5:02Speaker 3: we have two problems. One, we have an internal problem
- 5:06Speaker 3: in the United States. What are we going to do?
- 5:08Speaker 3: We make up 15% of the problem, but we're in
- 5:13Speaker 3: a position where the rest of the 85% of the
- 5:16Speaker 3: world is responsible for the rest. We can go net
- 5:19Speaker 3: neutral in terms of carbon tomorrow, and we're still going
- 5:23Speaker 3: to have our shores flooded. We're still going to have
- 5:25Speaker 3: these terrific hurricanes. The polar caps are going to continue
- 5:28Speaker 3: to melt. We're going to have hurricanes and storms, and
- 5:31Speaker 3: they're going to increase. And so we have to do
- 5:34Speaker 3: two things. We need a president who can lead the world.
- 5:37Speaker 3: That's why I was so deeply involved in setting up
- 5:41Speaker 3: the existence of the Paris Climate Accord, as well as
- 5:46Speaker 3: do the things we have to do and can do.
- 5:48Speaker 3: And the last point I'll make, I'll pay up any
- 5:50Speaker 3: detail you'd like me to. But the last point I'd
- 5:53Speaker 3: make is that, you know, the way we have to
- 5:56Speaker 3: do this is we, you know, we cannot discount the
- 6:00Speaker 3: concerns of people, what it means to their well-being not
- 6:04Speaker 3: only in the future and now, but what about how
- 6:07Speaker 3: they make a living? That's why I'm the first person
- 6:10Speaker 3: I'm aware of that went to every major labor union
- 6:12Speaker 3: in the country and got them to sign on to
- 6:15Speaker 3: my climate change plan, which is extensive. We're going to
- 6:19Speaker 3: get to zero net emissions for the production of electricity
- 6:24Speaker 3: by 2035, and it's going to create millions of jobs.
- 6:29Speaker 3: But we got to let people, we can't be cavalier
- 6:31Speaker 3: about the impact it's going to have and how we're
- 6:33Speaker 3: going to transition to do all this. But I just
- 6:36Speaker 3: think it's a gigantic opportunity, a gigantic opportunity to create
- 6:40Speaker 3: really good jobs.
- 6:42Speaker 1: What do you see as the relationship you're going to have?
- 6:45Speaker 1: So a lot of climate activists, you have said, basically,
- 6:49Speaker 1: we have to do everything we can to get Joe
- 6:50Speaker 1: Biden in office. It's an existential threat. And then their
- 6:52Speaker 1: plan is they're going to put a ton of pressure
- 6:54Speaker 1: on you to make sure that you really deliver well.
- 6:57Speaker 1: on solutions around climate change. What do you expect to
- 7:00Speaker 1: be a working relationship between these groups? I'm going to
- 7:02Speaker 1: put pressure on them.
- 7:04Speaker 3: To live up to what this cause they talk about.
- 7:07Speaker 3: And it starts off with voting. It starts off with volunteering.
- 7:11Speaker 3: It starts off with making sure that they're organizing and
- 7:15Speaker 3: they're taking care to make sure that people on the
- 7:19Speaker 3: fence line communities get taken care of, make sure the
- 7:22Speaker 3: priorities are set. So we're in a situation where people
- 7:26Speaker 3: who are hurt the most could help the quickest. You know,
- 7:29Speaker 3: this is, you know, I understand the sense, but the
- 7:37Speaker 3: fact is that, look, the first thing we're going to
- 7:41Speaker 3: do is make sure that we use the ability we
- 7:47Speaker 3: have now, and I will as president, to do away
- 7:50Speaker 3: with 100 changes in executive orders he's put forward to
- 7:56Speaker 3: do everything from allow more methane to seep into the atmosphere,
- 8:00Speaker 3: allow to pollute rivers, a whole range of things. We
- 8:04Speaker 3: can do that very, very quickly. But it's also going
- 8:06Speaker 3: to require us to make sure that we deal with
- 8:10Speaker 3: what we have to do now. For example, we should,
- 8:14Speaker 3: you know, as you guys know, because you both worked
- 8:17Speaker 3: in administrations, that the President of the United States has
- 8:20Speaker 3: control over $ 600 billion in signing federal contracts, everything from
- 8:28Speaker 3: one of the largest auto fleets and trucking fleets in
- 8:30Speaker 3: the world to infrastructure. As Dan will remember, when the
- 8:36Speaker 3: president asked me to handle, make sure we got the
- 8:39Speaker 3: Recovery Act and $ 800 billion was going to be distributed
- 8:42Speaker 3: to keep us from going into a depression, he gave
- 8:45Speaker 3: me the authority to run that from beginning to end.
- 8:49Speaker 3: And what we did was we were able to invest
- 8:51Speaker 3: in bringing down the cost of renewable energy to compete
- 8:55Speaker 3: with coal, gas and oil. And so now you see
- 8:59Speaker 3: what's happening. It's becoming a fait accompli. No one's going
- 9:03Speaker 3: to build another oil or gas fired electric plant. They're
- 9:07Speaker 3: going to build one that is fired by renewable energy.
- 9:11Speaker 3: We have to invest billions of dollars in making sure
- 9:14Speaker 3: that we're able to transmit over our lines. You may remember, Dan,
- 9:17Speaker 3: when we sat in those office buildings in the interregnum
- 9:21Speaker 3: period there, And we thought we could just make sure
- 9:25Speaker 3: we could transfer this, this renewable energy across the country
- 9:29Speaker 3: at all. Remember we had that big map up and
- 9:31Speaker 3: we showed all the, all the high tension wires were
- 9:34Speaker 3: going to go.
- 9:35Speaker 2: The smart grid. That's right.
- 9:37Speaker 3: Exactly right. But what happened, what happened was not in
- 9:40Speaker 3: my neighborhood. People didn't want to have a high tension
- 9:44Speaker 3: wires in their neighborhood. So what we're going to do
- 9:46Speaker 3: and what's happening now, and we've been working on this
- 9:49Speaker 3: for three years, You have a lot of folks in
- 9:51Speaker 3: Silicon Valley and other places doing research on battery technology.
- 9:55Speaker 3: So now we're going to be able to store, for example,
- 9:58Speaker 3: they can have a battery about the width of my
- 10:03Speaker 3: arms and about this thick that if you have solar
- 10:06Speaker 3: power in your home and the sun doesn't shine for
- 10:09Speaker 3: a week, that battery will store it. You're going to
- 10:12Speaker 3: be able to have all the energy you need in
- 10:13Speaker 3: the meantime. We're going to provide 550,000 charging stations for real.
- 10:19Speaker 3: on the new infrastructure, green infrastructure we're going to be building.
- 10:22Speaker 3: We're going to own the electric automobile market. We're going
- 10:25Speaker 3: to create a million jobs in doing that. This is
- 10:28Speaker 3: not hyperbole. These are things that have been run through
- 10:31Speaker 3: by economists in Wall Street and also by people who
- 10:35Speaker 3: are in the thought community, the people who are running
- 10:39Speaker 3: these major institutions. And so there's so much we can
- 10:43Speaker 3: do and we can create a clean environment. We can
- 10:46Speaker 3: also grow the economy and get people good wages. The
- 10:50Speaker 3: fastest growing industries are solar and wind, solar and wind.
- 10:54Speaker 3: And they're not paying 15 bucks an hour. They're paying
- 10:57Speaker 3: prevailing wage. Every single contract the president gave me the
- 11:01Speaker 3: authority to let when we were running the Recovery Act,
- 11:04Speaker 3: every single one paid prevailing wage. That's 45 to 50
- 11:08Speaker 3: bucks an hour plus benefits. And so that's how we're
- 11:11Speaker 3: going to grow this economy.
- 11:21Speaker 2: You know, in the debate stage, and frankly, throughout this
- 11:23Speaker 2: whole campaign, there's been sort of a mystery. Every time
- 11:26Speaker 2: Donald Trump's been asked about a second term agenda, he
- 11:28Speaker 2: has failed to answer that question with any detail. But
- 11:32Speaker 2: in just the last hour here, the Republican Party tweeted
- 11:35Speaker 2: out his second term agenda. So I'm going to read
- 11:37Speaker 2: that to you.
- 11:38Speaker 3: I'd be happy to hear it.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Yes. Item number one, establish a permanent man presence on
- 11:45Speaker 2: the moon. Item number two, send the first man mission
- 11:50Speaker 2: to Mars. Item number three, build the world's greatest infrastructure system.
- 11:54Speaker 2: And item number four, establish national high-speed wireless internet network. Now,
- 11:59Speaker 2: I will not ask you to respond to that absurdity
- 12:02Speaker 2: if you do not want to, but what would sort
- 12:04Speaker 2: of be your version of that tweet? What are the
- 12:07Speaker 2: three or four things that are at the top of
- 12:09Speaker 2: Joe Biden's first term agenda?
- 12:12Speaker 3: Get control of the virus. Get control of coronavirus. Without that,
- 12:19Speaker 3: nothing else is going to work very well. Number one.
- 12:24Speaker 3: Number two, invest in the community in real infrastructure. He's
- 12:30Speaker 3: been promising to invest in infrastructure in 17, 18, 19, 20.
- 12:36Speaker 3: He hasn't done a single solitary thing. So we're going
- 12:40Speaker 3: to invest in generating economic growth in the United States
- 12:44Speaker 3: by making it and buying it from buying an American
- 12:48Speaker 3: made in America. He is exporting jobs overseas. The first
- 12:53Speaker 3: thing we're going to have to do is to in
- 12:55Speaker 3: order to compete internationally, is we're going to have to compete.
- 12:58Speaker 3: We used to invest a little over 2.6% of our
- 13:03Speaker 3: GDP in research and science. It's now down to 0.6%.
- 13:06Speaker 3: We're going to invest in science and technology. We're going
- 13:11Speaker 3: to make sure that we can compete with the rest
- 13:14Speaker 3: of the world and lead the rest of the world.
- 13:17Speaker 3: We have the greatest institute. Look, everybody, we have more
- 13:21Speaker 3: great research universities in the United States of America than
- 13:24Speaker 3: every other university. research university in the entire rest of
- 13:28Speaker 3: the world combined. And the good news is the people
- 13:32Speaker 3: own them. There are not private institutions. Los Alamos is
- 13:37Speaker 3: owned by a university. It is a university. The people
- 13:41Speaker 3: own these systems. And we so underestimate. That's where every
- 13:46Speaker 3: major breakthrough has come out in the last 25 years.
- 13:50Speaker 3: And we're going to invest in those. We're going to
- 13:52Speaker 3: continue to invest in the research and development of And
- 13:55Speaker 3: it's going to go from making sure we have access
- 13:59Speaker 3: to know how we're going to generate economic growth through
- 14:02Speaker 3: infrastructure that's green, as well as we're going to invest
- 14:06Speaker 3: $ 5 billion a year in cancer research. We're going to
- 14:09Speaker 3: cure cancer. Mark my words. We're in a situation where,
- 14:13Speaker 3: as you know, I ran the moonshot for the president.
- 14:16Speaker 3: And what happened was We found significant breakthroughs. Everybody in
- 14:20Speaker 3: the past walked by the mirror and looked in the
- 14:23Speaker 3: mirror and saw a Nobel Prize about to be won.
- 14:27Speaker 3: Great scientists, but they didn't share much information. They virtually
- 14:31Speaker 3: didn't share any information. Well, that's all changing now. It's
- 14:35Speaker 3: changing drastically. And we're going to have to invest in
- 14:38Speaker 3: dealing with the things that affect the mental, physical and emotional.
- 14:42Speaker 3: and environmental health of the country. And we can do that.
- 14:46Speaker 3: For example, if we don't do something about dealing with Alzheimer's,
- 14:50Speaker 3: every single hospital bed in America within the next 20
- 14:54Speaker 3: years will be occupied by an Alzheimer's patient. And no
- 14:58Speaker 3: insurance company is going to invest the kind of money
- 15:00Speaker 3: needed to deal with it. We can do that. We
- 15:03Speaker 3: can do the same thing with other diseases like diabetes.
- 15:07Speaker 3: We can do it with regard to a whole range
- 15:09Speaker 3: of issues. So it's not just making sure we deal
- 15:14Speaker 3: with the physical environment, which is critical, and investing in
- 15:17Speaker 3: the technologies. For example, one of the things I laid out,
- 15:21Speaker 3: and I know it's boring as hell, but it's consequential.
- 15:25Speaker 3: I laid out a farm policy, a farm, F-A-R-M, that
- 15:29Speaker 3: allows us to drastically increase the amount of acreage able
- 15:33Speaker 3: to set aside. So we pay farmers for putting their
- 15:38Speaker 3: land in a land bank and planting deep-rooted plants. You say,
- 15:42Speaker 3: what's that about? It's about carbon capture. Put this in perspective.
- 15:47Speaker 3: Right now, they're burning the Amazon. The Amazon absorbs more
- 15:53Speaker 3: carbon from the air into the ground, into the roots
- 15:56Speaker 3: of trees and vegetation than is put into the air
- 16:01Speaker 3: by the entire United States of America every single day.
- 16:05Speaker 3: And what are we doing? We're letting it burn. We're
- 16:09Speaker 3: not doing much at all organizing the rest of the
- 16:11Speaker 3: world to go to the Brazilians and say, we're going
- 16:14Speaker 3: to pay you collectively the following multi-billion dollars to go
- 16:17Speaker 3: in a different direction. If you don't, you're going to
- 16:20Speaker 3: pay an economic price for doing it. Well, right now,
- 16:23Speaker 3: we can have the first net zero industry in America,
- 16:27Speaker 3: carbon emission, can be agriculture. For example, I know this
- 16:31Speaker 3: is boring stuff, but you think about what it can do. Look,
- 16:34Speaker 3: all of the methane that is going into the air
- 16:36Speaker 3: because of cow manure and because of pig manure and
- 16:40Speaker 3: because of chickens. You know, we have a $ 4 billion
- 16:44Speaker 3: industry on the east coast of the state of Delaware.
- 16:47Speaker 3: I mean, the east coast of the United States and
- 16:48Speaker 3: the Delmarva Peninsula. Well, guess what? The chicken manure has
- 16:52Speaker 3: been polluting the estuaries in the Chesapeake Bay. We know
- 16:56Speaker 3: now how to take the methane out of the manure,
- 16:59Speaker 3: turn it into pellets and make it reusable fertilizer. and
- 17:04Speaker 3: take the methane and store it in other ways. And
- 17:07Speaker 3: it creates jobs in the process of doing it. But
- 17:10Speaker 3: when you try to talk about things, other than the
- 17:13Speaker 3: kids who are really deeply into the environmental stuff, it
- 17:16Speaker 3: kind of glazes over. So there's so many things we
- 17:19Speaker 3: can do in the process. We can generate economic growth
- 17:23Speaker 3: in rural America, let alone what we're going to be
- 17:25Speaker 3: able to do relative to the other changes we can
- 17:28Speaker 3: make with regard to the environment. For example, well, I
- 17:31Speaker 3: won't go on. I'm sorry, but I get a little
- 17:34Speaker 3: excited about it because it's such an opportunity. And by
- 17:38Speaker 3: the way, that's why we have to. The first thing
- 17:40Speaker 3: I'm going to do is rejoin the Paris Climate Accord,
- 17:43Speaker 3: because without us, nobody runs it. Nobody steps up. No
- 17:48Speaker 3: one has the moral authority to do it. And I'll
- 17:51Speaker 3: conclude by saying the thing that bothers me most about
- 17:54Speaker 3: Donald Trump is he has so fundamentally damaged the moral
- 18:00Speaker 3: authority we have. We are the most powerful military in
- 18:02Speaker 3: the history.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Of the world.
- 18:04Speaker 3: We not only lead by the example of our power,
- 18:06Speaker 3: but the power of our example. And our example we're
- 18:10Speaker 3: setting around the world is devastatingly negative to our own
- 18:13Speaker 3: security interest and the world's overall interest. More than you
- 18:18Speaker 3: ever want to know. I apologize. You didn't give me- No, no, no.
- 18:20Speaker 2: It was great.
- 18:20Speaker 1: No, I'm interested. I'm very interested. Look, Trump thinks we
- 18:24Speaker 1: should go to the moon. You want to solve climate change.
- 18:27Speaker 1: I think that that's a good distinction.
- 18:31Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
- 19:01Speaker 2: What can they do over the last 10 days to
- 19:03Speaker 2: help make sure that you're the next president of the
- 19:04Speaker 2: United States?
- 19:06Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you know, what really rankles my
- 19:10Speaker 3: opponent is I say that the thing that bothers him
- 19:13Speaker 3: most is he's not a patch on Barack's jeans. I mean,
- 19:17Speaker 3: Barack was one hell of a president. And I tell
- 19:20Speaker 3: you what, man, what an honor it was. I think
- 19:22Speaker 3: you guys believe it, too, to serve with him. I mean,
- 19:25Speaker 3: an incredible honor. And I'm not being solicitous. I really
- 19:28Speaker 3: mean that. He had more integrity his little finger than
- 19:32Speaker 3: most people have in their whole body and he had
- 19:34Speaker 3: a backbone like a ramrod has one but one of
- 19:38Speaker 3: the things that I think is most important is Those
- 19:41Speaker 3: who haven't voted yet. First of all go to IWillVote.com
- 19:47Speaker 3: to make a plan exactly how you're going to vote,
- 19:52Speaker 3: where you're going to vote, when you're going to vote.
- 19:55Speaker 3: Because it can get complicated. Because the Republicans are doing
- 19:59Speaker 3: everything they can to make it harder for people to vote,
- 20:04Speaker 3: particularly people of color to vote. So go to IWillVote.com. Secondly,
- 20:10Speaker 3: We're in a situation where we have put together, and
- 20:13Speaker 3: you guys did it for our administration, the President Obama's
- 20:17Speaker 3: administration before this. We have put together, I think, the
- 20:22Speaker 3: most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history
- 20:31Speaker 3: of American politics. What the President is trying to do
- 20:35Speaker 3: is discourage people from voting by implying that their vote
- 20:38Speaker 3: won't be counted, It can't be counted. We're going to
- 20:42Speaker 3: challenge it and all these things. If enough people vote,
- 20:45Speaker 3: it's going to overwhelm the system. You see what's happening now.
- 20:48Speaker 3: You guys know it as well as I do. You
- 20:50Speaker 3: see the long, long lines in early voting. You see
- 20:54Speaker 3: the millions of people have already cast a ballot. And
- 20:57Speaker 3: so don't be intimidated. If, in fact, you have any,
- 21:02Speaker 3: any problem, go to, and I don't have the number,
- 21:05Speaker 3: but it's 833-DEM-VOTE. The letters D-E-M-V-O-T-E. Call that number. We
- 21:13Speaker 3: have over a thousand lawyers, over a thousand of them
- 21:17Speaker 3: will answer the phone. If you think there's any challenge
- 21:19Speaker 3: to your voting, go to 833-DEM-VOTE. Dial those letters on
- 21:25Speaker 3: your phone. That will get you the assistance that we
- 21:28Speaker 3: have already put in place. Thirdly, for those who've already voted,
- 21:33Speaker 3: it's not enough with God love you. It's not enough
- 21:36Speaker 3: that you voted. You've got to go out and get
- 21:39Speaker 3: your friends. You've got to go out and get your family.
- 21:42Speaker 3: You've got to go out and get people. There's so
- 21:44Speaker 3: many people like the old days when it used to
- 21:46Speaker 3: be a lot easier. There's so many people when you
- 21:49Speaker 3: were able to knock on doors and know Mrs. Smith
- 21:52Speaker 3: didn't have a vehicle that you'd drive her to the polls.
- 21:56Speaker 3: You'd make sure that you'd get your friends, your family.
- 21:59Speaker 3: Because look, you know, as John Lewis said before he
- 22:02Speaker 3: passed away, it's really you have a sacred right and
- 22:06Speaker 3: it's a sacred obligation to vote. particularly young people. You're
- 22:11Speaker 3: the ones who, if 18 to 24 year old, 25
- 22:14Speaker 3: years old vote in the same percentage that the rest
- 22:17Speaker 3: of the population voted in in 2016, we know what happened.
- 22:23Speaker 3: We would have had 5.2 million more people voting. You
- 22:27Speaker 3: can own the election. You can own the outcome. It really, really, really, really,
- 22:34Speaker 3: really matters. And make the case to your friends. Make
- 22:38Speaker 3: your case to your friends that they can't complain if
- 22:41Speaker 3: they don't vote. And it's going to be counted. It's
- 22:44Speaker 3: going to be counted. And because I think the American
- 22:47Speaker 3: people are going to show up, Dan, in such large numbers,
- 22:51Speaker 3: there's going to be no way to avoid the outcome.
- 22:54Speaker 3: And look what he's done from the beginning. Done everything
- 22:57Speaker 3: to try to discourage you. Saying he's not sure he'll
- 23:00Speaker 3: accept the results. He's not sure what he'll do. I
- 23:02Speaker 3: guarantee you he'll accept the results. And he'll be out in...
- 23:07Speaker 3: There's no one going to stick with him. You know,
- 23:10Speaker 3: he's the only president I know that six of his
- 23:13Speaker 3: generals who worked directly for him said he's unfit to
- 23:16Speaker 3: be president, commander in chief. So I'm not worried about
- 23:19Speaker 3: any coup here. You know, I'm not saying there's going
- 23:22Speaker 3: to be a coup. But think about everything that's been said.
- 23:26Speaker 3: When I said about three months ago, I think he's
- 23:29Speaker 3: going to suggest he may not step down. He may
- 23:31Speaker 3: not accept the outcome of the vote. People said, oh,
- 23:33Speaker 3: there goes Biden. What did he do two weeks later?
- 23:37Speaker 3: It's all designed to try to keep people from voting.
- 23:40Speaker 3: So those who have voted, you know how long it
- 23:44Speaker 3: took you, how you did it, what you did. Go
- 23:47Speaker 3: to particularly if you have, you know, grandparents or older
- 23:51Speaker 3: folks in your neighborhood, you know, and they have a
- 23:54Speaker 3: they have an absentee ballot. Show them it matters how
- 23:57Speaker 3: they fill it out. It's complicated. Some of it. They
- 24:00Speaker 3: haven't made it easier for people in many states. And
- 24:03Speaker 3: by the way, That's why we challenged it may not
- 24:07Speaker 3: hold up in Pennsylvania if the Supreme Court were to
- 24:10Speaker 3: change it, but now they've allowed the county, if it's postmarked,
- 24:13Speaker 3: it can be counted for all the way for the
- 24:15Speaker 3: next several days, which it should be. Well, you have
- 24:18Speaker 3: in Texas, the governor having these drop boxes, one in
- 24:22Speaker 3: a county. Some of the counties are as big as
- 24:24Speaker 3: my state almost, literally. And the idea there's one drop box?
- 24:30Speaker 3: And so we're going to have enough people out there
- 24:33Speaker 3: policing it. watching it, making sure. Do not be intimidated,
- 24:39Speaker 3: but go out and help those who you know are
- 24:42Speaker 3: going to have physical difficulty getting a polling place or
- 24:46Speaker 3: may need help on how to get done what they
- 24:49Speaker 3: need to get done to vote. Iwillvote.com will tell you
- 24:54Speaker 3: exactly where you can vote, where you live, what circumstances
- 24:58Speaker 3: are available to you, and vote early. Vote early. But
- 25:02Speaker 3: I and I, by the way, I particularly at one
- 25:05Speaker 3: of the things we did, you know, you guys generation
- 25:08Speaker 3: has stepped up. One of the things you may recall
- 25:11Speaker 3: that I started arguing for is the need for significantly
- 25:14Speaker 3: more young poll workers. Well, thousands of you have showed up.
- 25:19Speaker 3: Thousands of you have showed up because of COVID. Older
- 25:22Speaker 3: people who traditionally are the poll watchers and make sure
- 25:26Speaker 3: everything's squared away. They're afraid to show up because they're dying.
- 25:31Speaker 3: Or they're getting COVID, many of them. They're worried about it.
- 25:33Speaker 3: They're seeing what's happening to their friends. And so what's
- 25:36Speaker 3: happening is this election is a generational election. This is
- 25:41Speaker 3: this generation's opportunity, not a joke, to take back our democracy.
- 25:48Speaker 3: It literally, literally, my word as a Biden is at stake.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Our democracy is at stake. And, you know, we all,
- 25:56Speaker 3: and I have to admit to you, you know, I
- 25:58Speaker 3: always heard that I was a, history and political science
- 26:02Speaker 3: major in college. I've been involved in public life my
- 26:05Speaker 3: whole adult life. But I never really believed it, that
- 26:09Speaker 3: it was really, you know, every generation has to earn it. Well,
- 26:12Speaker 3: guess what? It's in jeopardy, man. It's in jeopardy. Do
- 26:17Speaker 3: not be intimidated. Do not be intimidated. And whether you
- 26:22Speaker 3: vote for me or against me, vote, vote, vote. There's
- 26:28Speaker 3: not a single thing we can't do when the American
- 26:31Speaker 3: people stand together. And that's not hyperbole. I mean it.
- 26:34Speaker 3: There's nothing, nothing beyond our capability.
- 26:38Speaker 1: On that note, Vice President Joe Biden, thank you so
- 26:41Speaker 1: much for your time. Good luck in the last 10 days.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Let's go win this thing.
- 26:46Speaker 3: I'm going to give it hell. Let's win it. Thank
- 26:48Speaker 3: you very much. By the way, you guys have such
- 26:50Speaker 3: an enormous following, not only with my children, my grown children,
- 26:55Speaker 3: but my five grandchildren who range in age from 27
- 27:00Speaker 3: to 14. No, that's not true, 16. She'd be very
- 27:04Speaker 3: upset I said 14. But all kidding aside, you're really
- 27:11Speaker 3: reaching out and you touch people because you talk, you know,
- 27:18Speaker 3: you talk plainly to people and it matters. It really matters. Anyway, thanks.
- 27:23Speaker 3: Looking forward to seeing you guys in person.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, sir.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 27:27Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
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