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Nothing But You | Full C-drama Review / Ep. 87 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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  I'm Jessica and this is Tibaki Rambles, where a couple of
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  friends review Korean dramas, except today we are going to
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  review a sea drama, a Chinese drama.
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  And for this episode, I am joined by Liliana from the Tea
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  and Soju podcast. How are you, Liliana?
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  I'm doing great. I'm very excited to be here to
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  talk about this one today. Yeah, I'm doing really well
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  right now. Yeah, yeah, We were chatting
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  beforehand and we are really busy little indie podcasters
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  over here. We don't know how this happened,
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  but the next few months are really packed for us.
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  And so every time we get together though, it is so much
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  fun. We have a blast and we are going
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  to talk about Nothing But You, which is a Leo Wu drama.
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  What had happened was we never got to review the other Leo Wu
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  drama it. Didn't the long ballad the.
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  Long ballad. We never did it because it would
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  just wasn't that good. So then we all like sort of
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  dropped it and we reviewed something else.
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  I basically was like, we still have to review a Leo Wu drama
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  and I want to do another sea drama for season 6.
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  So I picked nothing but you. I had heard wonderful things
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  about it from you, Liliana. And I was like, Liliana, do you
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  want to like pop in and do nothing but you?
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  And so we're here. We're going to review it.
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  Really exciting stuff. But before we do, if this is
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  Nothing but you. All right, so like any other C
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  drama review on the Tibock feed, this is going to be a spoiler
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  ific review. We are not going to have a non
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  spoiler section, so proceed at your own caution.
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  We are going to spoil nothing but you.
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  Whatever there is to spoil, so the My Drama List synopsis
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  reads. Liang Yohan, an executive
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  assistant to a powerful boss, has been stagnant in her
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  position that was going nowhere. With plans to resign.
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  She got her opportunity to meet Song Sang Chuan, a professional
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  badminton player going through a traumatic period in his life
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  which rendered him stuck. Their chance encounter sent both
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  on life and career altering paths that had them first
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  becoming acquaintances, then friends, and then slowly growing
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  into something more. While she encouraged him to be
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  the first person ever to transfer from professional
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  badminton to professional tennis, he, at nearly 10 years
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  her junior, provided support and uncharacteristic wisdom.
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  Could these two seemingly different people ultimately
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  succeed in their goals, life and love?
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  So Nothing But You aired in March through April 2023.
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  So happy birthday, Nothing But You.
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  We are recording this at the end of March and this will air.
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  This episode will air in early April.
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  Sorry. Yeah.
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  So it's two years old. Happy birthday to nothing but
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  you. It's two years old and it's 38
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  episodes long. I'm not sure why Liliana.
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  Why is the show 38 episodes long?
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  I don't know, I don't know. It doesn't need to be 30. 8.
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  And let me tell you a very quick thing.
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  So basically I I started watching this show live, right?
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  This show came out at the same time as Till the End of the
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  moon. Till the end of the Moon was
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  airing at the same time. So I remember I had the last
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  like 6 episodes of this show to watch and it took me weeks to
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  finished this show because I was so in like the till the end of
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  the moon boat. Yeah.
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  And now thinking back, I'm like, we never needed.
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  I listened because I did like a mini review of this for on
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  Patreon. And I listened back.
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  And one of the things that I said was this did not need to be
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  38 episodes. We could have shaved off.
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  Yeah, we could have shaved off a couple of episodes off of this
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  one. Oh yeah, it could have been 3028
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  episodes and it would have been perfectly.
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  Fine. Just fine at that lane. 38
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  episodes was excessive to me. The director of Nothing But You
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  is Chen Chang and he's directed As Beautiful As You, Lie to
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  Love, Dating in the Kitchen and Mad About You, among other
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  things. Have you seen some of this
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  director's work? I started and dropped as
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  beautiful as you. I started and dropped lie to
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  love. I finished dating in the kitchen
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  the 1st 2 so as beautiful as you and lighter love are very much
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  like As beautiful as you is a tan song Yoon and true Kai
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  drama, but it's like very office style and I those sometimes work
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  for me. Not very often light to love is
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  actually a Loy and she drama, but it's the same actress that
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  was in Oh my God, falling into your smile and I just don't
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  really like that actress. She's very wooded on screen.
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  So I was like I tried it. I tried it for Loy and she but I
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  was like, no, no, not even Loy and she will hold me here.
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  So yeah, and dating in the kitchen.
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  I love Zalu she but yeah, I finished it.
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  I actually reviewed dating in the kitchen.
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  On the inside too. I finished it look dating in the
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  kitchen. There's just no chemistry.
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  They, the Zalushi and the male lead have a huge age gap and to
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  me I just didn't see the chemistry and that made the
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  drama not great for me. Even though I love Zalushi in
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  it, I just didn't enjoy, you know, the drama in general.
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  OK, so not a good track record for this director, but nothing
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  but. Moving on, Nothing But You was
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  written by Zhang Yingji and she's only written 3 projects,
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  not counting Nothing But You. Those three projects are nothing
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  but 30. And to be a better man.
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  Have you even heard of these? Not these ones.
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  All right, we're moving on. So Nothing But You stars Woo Lay
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  AKA Leo Wu as Song Sunshine. He's, as we said in the Love
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  Like the Galaxy episode, known as the nation's little brother.
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  He's considered one of the four Little Heavenly Kings.
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  He's done amidst the snowstorm of love in 2024.
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  Love Like the Galaxy from 2022, The Long Ballad from 2021,
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  Nirvana and Fire. He has his own production
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  company, his mom helps him run it, and I think he's really
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  going places. He's such a great talent.
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  What do you think of Wooley? I mean, it's no surprise to
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  anyone that he's one of my favorite actors in general.
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  Like he has learned, and I say this all the time, he has
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  learned from some of the best in the industry.
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  And having watched, you know, 16 year old Roulet and Nirvana in
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  Fire in 20 from 2015 and having watched a Midst a Snowstorm of
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  love in 2024, it's like crazy to see his journey.
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  The way he emotes on screen is just so incredibly good.
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  Now, do I think his characters tend to be similar?
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  Sometimes? Maybe I really want to see him
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  in like a crime or something very different to what he's done
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  so far. But saying that nothing but you
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  is to me a very different character to love, like the
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  Galaxy. That's why I say I really like
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  this, because it's a very different character for him.
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  But yeah, I, I like, I really like him and he's one of those
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  actors that I can't wait to see what he's like in five years
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  time, 10 years time. He's very choosy with his
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  projects as well, because he does own his own production
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  company, his mum's his manager and whatnot.
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  He gets free rein to do what the heck he wants, in essence.
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  So he gets to pick. He gets the privilege of like
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  choosing his own projects because I feel like that is a
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  little privilege sometimes. Yeah, not every artist has that.
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  True. So he really is the master of
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  his own career and I really, really like that about him and
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  it shows in the projects that he himself kind of, you know,
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  picks. Also I will say the fact that he
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  plays these very cold characters, but in fact you
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  watch a behind the scenes and this guy is like the goofiest of
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  goofballs. Yeah, he's.
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  Always beyond me. He's like the clown sometimes.
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  So. So yeah, I, I really.
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  Like him, you know. He really is.
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  He really is. It doesn't match his face,
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  doesn't it doesn't match his face at all.
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  He's kind. Of like a kind of sophisticated
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  aura and faze. And that's his persona, like us,
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  you know, very Stony in a lot of roles, especially Love Like the
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  Galaxy, which is excellent with a showcase.
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  And of course, you can scroll back in your podcast feed and
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  listen to our Love Like the Galaxy deep dive.
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  But if you look at the behind the scenes footage of like, when
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  they say cut Wool Lake is like a goofball.
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  Yeah. Nothing like these characters.
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  Yeah. And the fun thing is so even in
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  Nirvana and fire, he plays this is very, very story like barely
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  any emotion 16 year olds. And it's so funny as well.
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  Basically because I reviewed Nirvana and Fire 50 and Soju and
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  like one of my notes that I said was Oh my God, it's baby Woo Lai
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  because he has this like very. Same face.
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  But he already has like and the features that he will have like,
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  you know, nowadays as a 24 year old man, 25 year old man, but he
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  looks very baby. But he then has this like almost
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  scowl, permanent scowl on his face.
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  And it goes with this character in Nirvana and fired very much
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  goes with this character. But it was like so strange and
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  yet great at the same time to watch him from something from
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  2015 and then watch him in something like love like the
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  Galaxy, because I feel like love like the Galaxy is kind of
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  almost a reprise of Nirvana and fire stoic who like it on a
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  man's face over like on a man's. Face what do things if that.
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  Makes sense. Yeah, he is.
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  He has, he has. But yeah, I think his actings
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  really good and I can't wait to see where he goes next.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  So his Co star is Zuya Tong. She plays Lian Yuan.
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  She's our female lead. She's been about 5 movies, 21 TV
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  shows including Will Love in Spring with Lucian from Meet
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  Yourself, which we've covered on the podcast feed as well.
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  That was a drama trio episode. Remembrance of things past,
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  begin again, Youngblood. I think you really enjoy Zuya
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  Tong. I do.
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  I always say she this actress is slept on constantly by
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  international fans. And I think it's because she
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  choose. First of all, she chooses
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  projects that tend to be not as widely available.
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  But even when they are widely available, they tend to be
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  projects that people wouldn't necessarily want to gravitate
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  towards. So Remembrance I've watched,
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  well, I started watching Remembrance of Things Past and
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  the only reason I didn't finish it is it's an MGTV drama and the
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  Subs were terrible. I think it has since come to
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  Vicki, but I just didn't go back to pick up.
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  But I think the first thing I watched her in was begin again
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  because that's a very quick, quick.
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  I say quick. She plays like this CEO who has
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  to have has to marry and has to have a cage to, you know, get to
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  where she needs to be. And she meets this doctor and
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  the doctor is kind of like the sunny personality and she's the
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  cold CEO. So that's where I.
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  First met fun, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like a
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  trope reversal. It's a lot of fun.
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  I had a lot of fun with it. But then I have seen her in Will
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  Love and Spring love it if you like, like a mature romance,
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  that that's what that is. And I I think Will Love in
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  Spring is only 21 episodes as well, which is even better.
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  Yeah, it's like, sure, it's really good.
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  I I really liked it. But yeah, I I just really like
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  her as an actress. I think she tends to have really
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  good chemistry, not just with her Co stars, but with like the
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  rest of the cast as well. Like she plays a lot of dramas
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  that are family orientated or characters that are very flawed
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  in her in their essence. But yeah, I, I, I think she's a
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  really, really good actress. Nice.
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  So this is my first experience with Zoo You Tong.
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  It's not my first experience with the Woo Lay and like I
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  said, I basically came in knowing next to nothing about
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  the drama except the good word of mouth from you.
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  I knew Woo Lay was in it and I didn't.
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  It didn't hit me that this was a sports drama until I actually
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  put it on the docket for Season 6.
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  And I kind of like looked it up more and I was like, oh right,
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  right, badminton to tennis. That's the whole shtick.
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  And then I was like, wait a minute, I freaking love sports
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  dramas. So this is actually the section
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  of Season 6 where I just pulled out all the stops.
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  O This drama is a sorts drama and the next drama that we're
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  reviewing is also a sports drama because I am nothing if not self
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  indulgent and this drama is a little bit of that for me
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  because I tend to really like sports dramas.
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  I was looking back at the other ones that we've reviewed on the
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  Tibock feed sports dramas like 2521 fencing, prison playbook,
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  baseball, love all play, badminton, weightlifting, fairy
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  swimming, slash weightlifting, run on track.
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  So I have a great time with all of these dramas.
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  I love underdog stories and I freaking love Nuna romances.
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  So as soon as I realized that all of these things are at play
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  and nothing but you, I was like, fuck yes, this is going to be
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  great. So I I'm going to throw it over
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  to you. Knowing all of this about me, I
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  kind of like showed my hand a little bit.
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  What do you think about nothing But you?
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  I mean, I really liked it. I think, like I said, I think it
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  is a little bit long for what it needs to be.
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  So it does get a little bit draggy at points, but as a
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  whole, I love the fact that it is an underdog story and the
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  fact that they really showcase that with persistence, hard work
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  and just love for what you want to do, you can get to where you
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  want to be. And that's like a big message in
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  this show that I I loved, I loved about it.
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  Who doesn't like rooting for the underdog?
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  I. Know, yeah.
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  Like it's, it's great. So I love that aspect.
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  I love the fact that there's really good communication in
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  this show. Like there's some conversations
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  that you have. Did you say are we allowed to go
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  into spoilers? Or do you?
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  Okay, here's the second PSA remind.
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  Yeah, I have to remind people because most C drama reviews hit
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  and I have to say it because K drama reviews, I always have the
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  non spoiler and the spoiler section.
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  But for Chinese dramas, all bets are off.
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  I'm always like just if you press play on a nothing but you
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  love like the Galaxy love between fairy and devil review,
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  I'm assuming you've watched 38 episodes.
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  You've watched 50 something episodes.
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  So I mean, sorry. So spoilers are on the table.
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  Be prepared to be spoiled. Go for it, Liliana.
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  So I think what really shocked me was the way they set this
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  drama up right, is that obviously he's playing badminton
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  and he's got this whole thing that if he gets to 18 points, he
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  plays really well until he gets to 18 points and then everything
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  goes and he can't, yeah, he logs up.
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  He can't seem to play anymore properly.
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  So stuff happens and he goes, right, The female lead convinces
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  him to go from badminton to tennis, which people have
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  pointed out very well that that would never happen.
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  But look, guys, we're throwing that out the window.
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  You know, it's a drama. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's a drama like, like I'm going to root for my underdog.
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  He's like. He starts the drama and he's 22
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  years old, a professional badminton player who's 22 years
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  old, going from badminton and switching to tennis and becoming
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  a professional tennis player. Yeah, No, that's.
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  That's unheard of. Would have happened exactly.
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  It wouldn't. Have say that in the drama they
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  even go that like he has a conversation with his stepdad
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  and he's like, you know, that doesn't happen.
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  And he's like, yeah, I'm going to be the 1st and like
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  everybody's like, yeah, yeah, you're going to be the like,
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  like that's what you want to do. You want to cheer for the
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  underdog, right, right, right. But I think what I was going to
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  say was, is that so their relationship can feel very
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  almost unbalanced because she's the manager of the club that
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  he's going to end up playing for, right?
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  But it never does. I don't think it ever came
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  across as unbalanced where she had more power over him because
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  she was the manager or anything like that.
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  So I really enjoyed that aspect. I enjoyed the aspect that
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  although she's older, he has a emotional maturity that allows
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  the relationship to be believable.
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  So I think because of all of that, it made me enjoy the
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  drama. I mean it's the slow burn these
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  two take. Their freaking time to get
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  anywhere I think. I think Woo Lei has a thing for
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  slow burns. He does.
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  You have, you have to think that because of the projects that he
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  chooses and the freedom that he has to choose these projects,
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  you're like, oh, this man likes a slow fucking burn.
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  Unless it's a midst a snowstorm of love.
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  Because they get together fast in that drum.
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  But the pacing of Amidst the Snowstorm of love is also snail
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  space, so he. Likes slow stuff.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, he does. He does.
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  So I think their relationship, because they became really good
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  friends 1st and then moved on into a relationship later on, it
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  made it work for me so much more, so much more.
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  Say say I really liked it. And like I said, I think one of
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  my qualms is that it could have been shorter, but.
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  Yeah, that's my biggest qualm is that it's 38 episodes.
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  Could have been 30, could have been 28, could have been 20
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  episodes. This story is tried and true,
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  going to win me over. Every time you have an underdog,
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  you have someone who's trying to persevere in a sport that
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  they're not familiar with, that they have a lot of trauma
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  playing sports and stuff like that.
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  I am like, sign me up, sign me up.
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  For some reason, I really enjoy these types of stories.
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  Maybe it's because I'm American, I don't fucking know.
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  But the perseverance, the grit, the mental fortitude,
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  encountering problems, solving problems, all these things go
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  into a sports drama. It's a formula that always is
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  always going to work for me. When you talk about this Nuna
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  romance, which what's the equivalent in how do you say
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  older sister in Mandarin? So basically this happened so I
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  asked Sarah from K Drama this and she's like this and I've now
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  yeah she told me like 3 times and I always forget and I always
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  just go back to referring to it as Nuna romance.
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  This is so annoying. She'll start to ask again and
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  like write it down or something. Every time she's like oh, it's
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  this like this. There's not really a what she's
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  explained to me is there's not really an equivalent thing, but
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  like this is how you would translate it and kind of kind of
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  say that genre. And I always forget every single
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  time I'm going to have to write it down.
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  You have to especially this is, this is the perfect like time to
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  bring it out your back pocket. But anyway, she's 32 and he's
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  22. This is right around like our
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  ages, but like the female lead is right around our age.
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  If you told me today that a hot badminton player was trying to
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  get in my pants when he was 22, I'd be like, fuck out of here.
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  Like fuck off, because that age is wild.
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  Like to me that 10 year age gap is wild.
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  But for some reason it it won me over in the show, totally won me
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  over. He seems like an old soul.
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  He seems a lot more emotionally mature, like you said, and even
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  though he has a lot of lighter, bubbly moments, he's a lot
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  different than the other characters that we mentioned at
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  the start of this episode. And there's a lot of comedy in
• 23:35
  this show. There's a lot of side characters
• 23:36
  that we can get into, but like, for some reason those two are
• 23:42
  really the glue that holds this whole thing together.
• 23:44
  They are. They really are.
• 23:47
  Were there any surprises in this show that you thought were
• 23:50
  unique? I don't know.
• 23:53
  Well, like I said, for me, I really liked some of the things
• 23:57
  that I liked was the dialogue and the found family and a
• 24:00
  couple of things. So one of my biggest surprises,
• 24:04
  it wasn't like, I don't know, it's just something that I
• 24:07
  thought they were going to take in One Direction and they
• 24:10
  didn't. And it's specifically right at
• 24:12
  the end when he has to go, this is going to be like we're
• 24:16
  jumping right over to Kendall. Nice.
• 24:19
  That's fine. But it's when he has to go and
• 24:22
  play for a different club. Like he's at a point now that he
• 24:25
  has to go and play for a bigger club and I, because he's so
• 24:28
  good, he's surpassed when the coaches can teach him at Yeah,
• 24:32
  so he has to go. Top Smash, that's the name of.
• 24:35
  The club and usually this would be the part where like they,
• 24:40
  they would whack out the noble idiocy or something and they
• 24:44
  would break them up or not. But they didn't, they didn't,
• 24:49
  they were like, we can do a long distance relationship.
• 24:53
  And you see them texting back and forth and you see them like
• 24:56
  going to visit each other. You see them doing a long
• 25:00
  distance relationship. And it's the same thing that
• 25:04
  happens when he's injured and he has to go recover.
• 25:07
  And she pays for all of that and he finds out and his mom is
• 25:13
  like, yeah. And he's like, I don't want
• 25:17
  this, like I I want to pay it back.
• 25:19
  And you thought, Oh my God, this is going to blow up.
• 25:21
  It's going to be like a huge argument.
• 25:24
  It's resolved within two episodes.
• 25:27
  And it's like it's resolved with them sitting each other down and
• 25:31
  having an open dialogue, like open communication.
• 25:36
  And I think that's a theme throughout the whole drama is
• 25:40
  that every time I think this is going to go in the trope way of
• 25:44
  they're going to misunderstand each other, they're going to
• 25:47
  break up, they're going to, you know, those type of things.
• 25:51
  The show kind of reels it back in.
• 25:53
  They sit down, they have an open communication and then, you
• 25:56
  know, they they saw it. Things are so so, yeah.
• 26:00
  The best way I can describe this show is like a slice of life
• 26:04
  buzz sports. That's exactly what it is.
• 26:08
  Yeah. That's exactly what it is, Yeah.
• 26:10
  Yeah. Because it takes place over a
• 26:11
  long period of time. This is several years, right?
• 26:16
  Yeah. He has like 2 birthdays.
• 26:18
  He goes abroad for two years and we're still with these
• 26:21
  characters, so the 38 episodes is multiple years.
• 26:27
  Yeah. And I still don't think it
• 26:30
  should have been 38 episodes, but it's fine to do like such a
• 26:33
  long period of time. That's atypical, I would say of
• 26:36
  any drama. Usually you keep all of the the
• 26:41
  action or whatever within a short period of time.
• 26:43
  Like you just it all of this happens in like 2 weeks, several
• 26:46
  months or whatever. This is just taking you on this
• 26:50
  journey with them. All this training, all of these
• 26:53
  tournaments, all of these competitions and all of this,
• 26:56
  all these setbacks and they try and get acquired and they're
• 27:00
  taking investors and they get sold and all this stuff.
• 27:05
  She's dealing with stuff, he's dealing with stuff as an
• 27:07
  athlete. They're on parallel tracks
• 27:11
  until, you know, he kind of surpasses her.
• 27:14
  And I would say that the thing that kind of intrigued me the
• 27:18
  most was that the drama kind of fell flat when it came to the
• 27:23
  parent stuff. To me, I was like, this is
• 27:27
  confusing. And it's almost like too
• 27:31
  pessimistic for the drama. I, I don't know how to put it.
• 27:37
  What did you think of his mom drama and then her mom drama?
• 27:44
  So when it comes to his mom drama, I do feel like they
• 27:49
  resolved that fairly early on because they resolved that like
• 27:52
  in the 1st 20 episodes even earlier I would say because he
• 27:56
  has to get over his trauma because.
• 28:02
  What had happened was didn't his his mom forced him to go into
• 28:06
  badminton. First of all, he didn't.
• 28:08
  He didn't like badminton. He didn't like it, no.
• 28:11
  And then he rose through the ranks, was doing really well.
• 28:14
  His mom was coaching him and I would say kind of in an abusive
• 28:19
  manner. Like, not very she.
• 28:22
  Was a bully. Yeah, she was like bullying him
• 28:25
  anyway. She was like bullying his ass
• 28:28
  anyway. So then on one of his matches
• 28:32
  she up and like disappears, like completely ghost him.
• 28:37
  And come to find out, she had slinged off to die because she
• 28:41
  got a cancer diagnosis that was really foul and she just
• 28:45
  decided, oh, I'm going to disappear from my son's life
• 28:48
  rather than him see me die. Die.
• 28:53
  Yeah. Yeah, like not beat this cancer.
• 28:57
  And I was like, what the fuck is going on?
• 28:59
  Like I it was first of all told very strangely, because he she
• 29:05
  just like left him with the stepdad, which I don't know, I
• 29:11
  don't maybe it's the Hispanic in me coming out, but I'm like,
• 29:13
  what do you mean you just lie? You just up and abandoned your
• 29:16
  son with the stepdad. Like not even a blood relative
• 29:21
  anyway. See that part?
• 29:22
  That part didn't bother me too much because I have a stepdad
• 29:26
  and to me he's more of a dad than like.
• 29:28
  I totally understand. So that part doesn't bother me
• 29:32
  too much. I love that for everyone who has
• 29:36
  wonderful stepparents. But what is she doing?
• 29:40
  Like it was very it reminded me of that movie and I'll see if I
• 29:45
  can pull it up. She was out of line for just
• 29:48
  abandoning him though. I do agree with that.
• 29:51
  Like I completely agree. I don't I I don't mind her
• 29:55
  choice of who he was left with, but I do completely agree that
• 30:00
  she was completely out of line just up and leaving him after
• 30:04
  all of these years of making him do something that he didn't want
• 30:07
  to do. Yes.
• 30:08
  So the movie that I'm thinking of is The Farewell from 29 19
• 30:14
  with Aquafina. Have you heard of it?
• 30:16
  Right. So the the premise of that movie
• 30:19
  is that her Aquafina's grandmother in China has gotten
• 30:24
  a cancer diagnosis like that she's going to imminently die of
• 30:27
  cancer. It's like stage 3 or 4 and the
• 30:30
  families doesn't tell the grandmother that she's dying of
• 30:34
  cancer. Instead, they go and have a
• 30:38
  wedding ceremony for like another, like a cousin of hers
• 30:42
  as an excuse to get the family together to say their last
• 30:44
  goodbyes. That's the farewell.
• 30:46
  That's where the farewell comes from.
• 30:48
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's very cultural, right?
• 30:52
  Like that's a Chinese family. And it reminded me of the
• 30:55
  farewell in that they just don't want to be a bother.
• 30:59
  They don't want to inconvenience their family member and they
• 31:03
  don't want to cause for the in that case the grandmother.
• 31:08
  They don't want to cause her unnecessary pain if she doesn't
• 31:12
  need to go through that mental like anguish if she's going to
• 31:16
  die anyway. Yeah.
• 31:18
  That sentiment is still there, that very odd cultural sentiment
• 31:23
  that is really at odds with my culture.
• 31:26
  And I wondered if you felt any a hint of that at all with the
• 31:30
  mother leaving. Like never mind that she left
• 31:33
  him with a stepdad, the whole thing of her leaving.
• 31:37
  Oh, she was way out alive. You thought it was?
• 31:40
  Like, yeah, yeah. Because first of all, like, so
• 31:46
  like we we've discussed she kind of does bully him almost into
• 31:50
  this sport and he becomes incredibly good because he wants
• 31:55
  to make his mom proud, right. That's kind of like his way of
• 32:00
  wanting to play. She should have just said
• 32:03
  because either way, he's Scrooge.
• 32:05
  If she had said to him, I've got and so I'm going to die, he
• 32:09
  might have been like, I can't play anymore, you know, I need
• 32:12
  to focus on my mom or whatever. But with her just up and
• 32:15
  leaving, yes, he does still play, but he's like stuck in
• 32:18
  this. But yeah, like he, he never
• 32:23
  grows anymore from that point onwards.
• 32:26
  And then he, it creates a lot of issues with him mentally, not
• 32:32
  just in his badminton life, but in his general life.
• 32:36
  He doesn't have a lot of friends.
• 32:38
  In fact, he's a very straightforward kind of person
• 32:41
  and a lot of people don't like that.
• 32:42
  So they they don't And he's very misunderstood, I think within
• 32:46
  the badminton club within like everywhere in general.
• 32:51
  So if you look at his life at the beginning of the show, he
• 32:53
  doesn't really have any friends. He's so unhappy with his job
• 32:59
  choice or what he has to do. He knows it's a ticking time
• 33:03
  bomb because he knows he's not going to be fit you.
• 33:07
  Know, yeah, he doesn't see a future for himself in badminton.
• 33:10
  So and that can all be traded back to the fact, but yet he
• 33:15
  still can't let go of it, like he can't make himself let go of
• 33:20
  it. And I think it is because it's
• 33:22
  almost like him letting go of his mother, almost in essence,
• 33:26
  like letting go of that sport. So I absolutely don't like the
• 33:31
  fact that I would have rather have her die in him.
• 33:35
  No, And that's why he was like so stunted playing if I think
• 33:41
  that would have been. The disappearance, the
• 33:43
  mysterious like it's. Just like out of nowhere.
• 33:47
  And then it's reveals that she. Dies by herself and then leaves
• 33:51
  instructions for her to have a sea burial and they kept her
• 33:55
  ashes for him for for some reason I I was baffled by the
• 33:59
  entire production of the mom's death.
• 34:04
  Yeah, I, I, I think it could have been better done because I
• 34:08
  think I think. But then she also.
• 34:12
  Lied to like the stepdad. She lied to everyone.
• 34:15
  She was like, I'm just going to saunt her off and like nobody's
• 34:18
  going to know and I'm just going to die by myself.
• 34:21
  And it's. Not like an animal in the
• 34:22
  fucking woods. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:25
  That's exactly what she did. She kind of like saunted off to
• 34:28
  die by yourself. And I'm like, what is even the
• 34:32
  point of this? Right.
• 34:33
  It just, I don't know, it made it left a lot of questions more
• 34:37
  than answers. I don't know, like his mommy
• 34:41
  issues were very understandable, but I just, I had a lot of
• 34:46
  questions and it didn't make much.
• 34:49
  Sense not a lot of answers. Not a lot of answers when they
• 34:52
  go to the seaside town because she's like, you need it because
• 34:57
  all of these problems come back again when he starts playing
• 35:01
  tennis, he comes across again with this wall of he doesn't
• 35:07
  want to fail. It stems from like his mommy
• 35:09
  issues. So she's like, why don't we get
• 35:12
  some closure? Why don't we find out exactly
• 35:14
  what happened to your mom, which to me is like, no fucking shit.
• 35:18
  Like why would you? Even if you had, even if you had
• 35:21
  no problems at all in any sport, in any profession.
• 35:26
  Let's find out what happened to mom.
• 35:28
  Let's investigate this because she went missing and is God
• 35:32
  knows where. You know, like what did she
• 35:36
  really have cancer? Was she lying to you?
• 35:39
  I would have a lot of trust issues after this so.
• 35:43
  You. Know the female lead is like
• 35:45
  let's find your mom. And they do, they go on this
• 35:49
  little, like, train ride to the seaside, and they find where
• 35:53
  she's buried her urn. And then the people that have
• 35:57
  the columbarium are like, oh, yeah, she left instructions to
• 36:01
  be buried at sea. And I'm like, buried at sea.
• 36:05
  I what connection to the sea do these people have?
• 36:08
  I just had, like, more questions because I'm like, why the sea?
• 36:12
  So I started cracking up when they open the urn and he's
• 36:18
  dumping the ashes into the ocean.
• 36:20
  And the ashes are. And the ashes are flying to,
• 36:23
  frankly in their faces, because they had to film this on the
• 36:29
  windiest day is the blustery day.
• 36:33
  And then the stepdad comes out of nowhere, literally runs into
• 36:38
  frame, and he's just there. He just made it to the seaside
• 36:41
  town. He has no luggage, nothing on
• 36:43
  him. He just runs in and starts
• 36:47
  grieving immediately. And I'm like, all right, I guess
• 36:50
  this is happening. And the two of them just dumping
• 36:54
  handfuls of ashes into their own faces.
• 36:56
  It was sending me up a wall. It was funny.
• 37:00
  I didn't find out they're funnier than anything else.
• 37:02
  I was, it was. It was just so weird and funny.
• 37:07
  Yeah. They're soaked with sea spray.
• 37:10
  Like soaked with sea spray? And ashes.
• 37:14
  And then ashes on top of it. I, I was like, what?
• 37:18
  She's not even going out to sea. No, she's coming out with them.
• 37:25
  So this just all of this was crazy.
• 37:30
  It was crazy. But her mom, I wanted to slap
• 37:36
  her so many times. Her mom was a piece of work.
• 37:40
  It was because that Lady was bitter. 1 of this.
• 37:45
  This is one of the most bitter characters I've seen in a drama
• 37:49
  period because she got this divorce from the female leads
• 37:54
  biological dad and has since been single and then has tried
• 37:59
  to instill these values of just hating on men and you're never
• 38:07
  going to find someone who's who's long term and say no to
• 38:12
  marriage and yadda yadda yadda into her daughter.
• 38:16
  I mean, this lady was so mad at constantly so mad, like
• 38:21
  constantly constantly pissed at the dad that when he finally got
• 38:27
  cancer at the end of the show, I was like, I was waiting for
• 38:29
  someone to get cancer. I was waiting for somebody else
• 38:31
  to get cancer because, you know, the male lead and his dad, his
• 38:36
  step dad have the wig shop right across the street from the
• 38:42
  oncology center. I was like, yeah, no, someone
• 38:44
  else is getting a cancer in this show.
• 38:46
  So her dad gets cancer. He has surgery to remove a
• 38:51
  kidney because I think it's on one kidney.
• 38:52
  It's stage 2 kidney cancer. The female lead comes to see her
• 38:57
  mom and when she comes through the door the mom goes is he
• 39:01
  dead? I know.
• 39:03
  And the female, he's like, no, no, he's still alive.
• 39:05
  He had surgery. He just has one less kidney.
• 39:08
  And that mom says with a straight face.
• 39:11
  Oh, then I can't rejoice yet. She's horrible.
• 39:14
  That's like I. Just I just really, really
• 39:17
  disliked her. Oh my.
• 39:19
  God. And there was not, there was not
• 39:22
  one redeeming quality about her, not one redeeming quality about
• 39:27
  her that you could pick at, to be honest.
• 39:29
  So I just had such an issue with that mom.
• 39:33
  Up to a certain point, I was like, OK, I get it.
• 39:36
  You're bitter. You had a horrible experience.
• 39:38
  You don't want your daughter to go through the same thing.
• 39:41
  After a certain point, I'm like, OK, you're doing irreparable
• 39:45
  harm. There's only so much.
• 39:47
  Right. You can do, yeah.
• 39:50
  It was foul. I just did not like that Lady
• 39:52
  one bit. No, because it was making the
• 39:55
  female lead afraid to be in a relationship.
• 39:59
  Yes, and it was making her refuse.
• 40:02
  She has this great guy ready to date her, but she's not ready
• 40:07
  because she's she's just like instilling everything.
• 40:11
  Her mom, even if she's trying not to, she's kind of just
• 40:14
  instilling everything that her mom's kind of spewing.
• 40:17
  So you're like, there's a come on, come on.
• 40:20
  Yeah. But then she's such a hypocrite.
• 40:23
  But then she's such a hypocrite because at the beginning of the
• 40:25
  show the female lead has that surgery to remove.
• 40:29
  Was it an ovary? I can't even remember what it.
• 40:31
  Was yes, I think it was something.
• 40:35
  I can't remember what it was, I think it was a cyst as an
• 40:38
  ovarian cyst. Yeah, it was something to do
• 40:42
  with her reproductive system. I remember because then it leads
• 40:44
  to the story much later on that she is unlikely to have kids or
• 40:49
  she can have a She's going to have a really hard time having
• 40:52
  kids. Right.
• 40:53
  But that when she's in the hospital, the mom is like, do
• 40:57
  you have to have this surgery, Don't have the surgery, yadda,
• 41:01
  yadda, because then you won't be able to have kids later.
• 41:03
  I'm like, kid, what do you think?
• 41:05
  Do you think kids drop out of the sky?
• 41:07
  Like I don't understand like. Getting someone to have a kid
• 41:10
  with, Yeah. I I was like floored that she
• 41:14
  was such a traditionalist about her having kids.
• 41:19
  And not her being in a relationship.
• 41:21
  Right. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:23
  No, I'm like looking around the room.
• 41:25
  I agree. It doesn't compute.
• 41:28
  I mean, you could go down the road of saying, well, she just
• 41:33
  wants her daughter to be like a single mom or she just wants,
• 41:36
  you know, there's people, there is people nowadays who prefer to
• 41:40
  have that arrangement where they choose to be single mums and
• 41:46
  they, they, they want to have kids and they're not in a
• 41:48
  relationship. So they choose to go down that
• 41:50
  road. So you could argue that's what
• 41:52
  the mother was hinting at, the mall specifically said.
• 41:56
  Who's going to want to be with you?
• 41:58
  Yeah, but that's that's the thing.
• 42:00
  Yeah, Yeah, that's the thing. And I was like, hold on, hold
• 42:03
  on, you can't. Have a but you said if I want
• 42:05
  her to be with. Anyone.
• 42:06
  Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
• 42:09
  Yeah, it makes no sense. Yeah, her mom, just as a
• 42:12
  character makes no sense in general.
• 42:15
  Right. Oh God, I'm so glad you got to
• 42:17
  talk about the mom. What were some of your favorite
• 42:20
  moments between these two, the male lead and the female lead?
• 42:25
  One of my favorites. I actually, these are the things
• 42:27
  I actually have a couple of notes on.
• 42:29
  So I'm going to pull up my notes for this, which are very few.
• 42:34
  First of all, in episode 5. Okay, back to the beginning.
• 42:39
  Yeah, in episode 5, she calls him out to go and have wantons,
• 42:45
  right? And they're having wantons.
• 42:47
  And they're having this conversation about how she very
• 42:51
  quickly tells him that his stepdad has told her about his
• 42:56
  mom and the whole situation with his mom.
• 42:58
  And I just liked that moment in general because I feel like it's
• 43:02
  a very open communication back and forth very quickly.
• 43:07
  The fact that she's like, look, I know this, this is what
• 43:09
  happens. And it's the fact that he
• 43:11
  doesn't necessarily like what she's saying, but he still kind
• 43:15
  of listens. And you know, there's open
• 43:19
  dialogue just anytime these two were talking, but this one
• 43:22
  specifically. And then I think later on, one
• 43:26
  of my all time favorite scenes in the show all together is
• 43:31
  much, much later on. And it's referring the thing
• 43:35
  they have the conversation of she's saying, how is this
• 43:38
  relationship going to work? I am much older than you.
• 43:41
  We are in different places and, you know, he says we can we can
• 43:46
  make it work. And she says to him, well,
• 43:50
  something along the lines of what about kids?
• 43:53
  I may not be able to have kids. And I'm at an age where.
• 43:57
  So it's that whole kids conversation that they have much
• 44:00
  later on in the drama, right? And he's like, I've never even
• 44:05
  thought about kids, but I do know that I love you.
• 44:09
  So I really like that open dialogue and that whole
• 44:12
  conversation because a lot of people forgo the kids
• 44:17
  conversation and then they kind of like get into a relationship
• 44:22
  and they're like, oh, you don't want kids, but I want kids,
• 44:26
  right? Then they're like married and
• 44:29
  people are like, well, crap. Because now we buy for different
• 44:32
  things out of life. It's so important to have these
• 44:37
  big conversations. Yeah, yeah, especially.
• 44:39
  If you're serious about somebody, and that one happens
• 44:43
  in episode 34 and I have the speech that he gave to her, I
• 44:49
  loved it, he says. Do you know what kind of people
• 44:52
  are the dumbest in this world? The kind that always goes after
• 44:55
  those small complimentary gifts? The one I like is Liangyuan, not
• 44:59
  the child born to Liangyuan. The only thing I can be sure of
• 45:03
  now is that I want to be with you every single day from now
• 45:07
  on. The route to everything is you.
• 45:10
  Only if I have you does it make sense.
• 45:12
  The rest are complimentary gifts.
• 45:14
  If I have it, I have it. If I don't, I haven't lost
• 45:17
  anything either. Yeah, yeah, it's, you know what
• 45:21
  it reminds me of? It's that whole convert.
• 45:24
  This is so out of left field, but it kind of reminds me of
• 45:27
  this. It's that whole conversation.
• 45:30
  There was a trend on TikTok going around of partners sitting
• 45:34
  down and being like, if I was pregnant and the doctor said
• 45:40
  you, I was unconscious, I couldn't make decisions and you
• 45:44
  had to pick me or the baby, who would you pick?
• 45:47
  And people were, like, shocked that partners were picking their
• 45:50
  partners over the babies, right? Yeah.
• 45:54
  It's like, it's that whole conversation.
• 45:57
  And people were like, this is that situations in a sense of of
• 46:02
  course he's going to pick her right now because that's what he
• 46:06
  wants. Like he's not thinking about
• 46:09
  kids. It's not crossed his mind.
• 46:11
  It's not something that he necessarily wants out of life
• 46:15
  either. At least that's what I got from
• 46:17
  the conversation. Like he wants to be in a
• 46:19
  relationship with her and then if they have kids later on, they
• 46:23
  have kids if they he. Said if it happens, it happens
• 46:25
  if not. Exactly.
• 46:27
  And that's, I think, the mentality that is the healthiest
• 46:32
  to have with such things. Also it showed how young he was.
• 46:36
  Yeah, he. Showed how young he was.
• 46:38
  She asked him did you have you ever thought about having kids?
• 46:42
  And he said no. It's never even crossed my mind.
• 46:44
  Yeah. He's 22 or 23 of.
• 46:47
  Course he hasn't thought about kids.
• 46:49
  Fucking course he's never thought about having kids.
• 46:51
  But she's 32 and I think this is when age gaps really, really
• 46:56
  show. I've always said, right, I have
• 46:59
  always said a 31 year old with a 42 year old, it's a really big
• 47:05
  age gap. It's 11 years, right?
• 47:07
  But at the same time it isn't because you are in similar, I
• 47:13
  say you've done a lot of your growing that you would have done
• 47:16
  in your 20s, right? And yes, in your 30s you still
• 47:20
  are definitely not going to have your shit together like the
• 47:23
  third. People say the 30s are the new
• 47:25
  20s and I agree. Like you have more money and you
• 47:28
  have technically more independence, more and a frontal
• 47:32
  life. Yeah, and a frontal lobe as
• 47:34
  well. Right?
• 47:36
  But what I mean is someone date someone in their 30s.
• 47:40
  Dating someone in their 20s is a huge age difference, not the age
• 47:46
  gap itself. The age gap is the same.
• 47:48
  It's the stage of life you're in.
• 47:51
  It's the amount of growing and development you've done as a
• 47:54
  person. So I think in that scene, he
• 47:57
  definitely did show his age, but also in the conversation that he
• 48:01
  had with her, in the words that he was saying, I think he also
• 48:05
  showed his maturity and he was like, I've never thought about
• 48:09
  it, but it's not like I necessarily want them.
• 48:12
  And what I do know in this instance is that I want you and
• 48:16
  I want to be with you. So right now I want to be in a
• 48:20
  relationship with you. If we do get to that bridge,
• 48:24
  we'll cross it when we get there.
• 48:25
  And I think that's like a healthy approach to to sort of
• 48:29
  have so that that was like one of my favorite scenes of the
• 48:32
  whole show because I feel like it was just very good
• 48:37
  communication. And it's a prime example of him
• 48:40
  showing his age by saying, you know, yeah, I never thought.
• 48:44
  About it. But him also.
• 48:46
  After. Ten years exactly, but him also
• 48:50
  showing his maturity in the way and what he replied afterwards,
• 48:55
  I think. I agree completely.
• 48:57
  Beautiful, beautiful scene. I love the way you talked about
• 49:01
  it and there's a lot of like little scenes that I it made me
• 49:06
  gasp and kick my feet and excited to see the progression
• 49:10
  of them and to see her also her walls just kind of breakdown as
• 49:15
  the show progressed. And one of those scenes was in
• 49:18
  episode 11 where at this point there's nothing happened.
• 49:24
  There's not even a whiff of, like, romance.
• 49:27
  I'm definitely totally in love with her, but she is.
• 49:31
  There's nothing like she hasn't done anything.
• 49:33
  He hasn't done anything. And he goes, if I can
• 49:35
  successfully transition from badminton to tennis and stay on
• 49:39
  the team, the two of us will go on a date.
• 49:43
  I had to pause the show the way that I gasped.
• 49:46
  I started choking on my own spin.
• 49:49
  It's that very classic Wooley rizz.
• 49:52
  It's very Rouley rizz. And you, this is a common theme
• 49:59
  with every single character this man plays is that he has this
• 50:05
  rizz and this charisma and this like toe the line between cocky
• 50:10
  and confidence. He has this confidence about him
• 50:14
  that makes his characters so good and so like, Oh my God,
• 50:19
  yes. Because that would get me
• 50:21
  because that would get me exactly like I understand her
• 50:26
  better because of the the way that it plays out in the show
• 50:29
  and the way that he kind of dials it up slowly right over
• 50:34
  the course of the show. And he springs little things on
• 50:37
  her like that, like, oh, we're going to go on a date if I get
• 50:42
  on the team and I'm like. We are little boy.
• 50:46
  Yeah. Yeah, it's very much a Woo Lai
• 50:50
  thing and I'm like, I love it. I I love it because it just
• 50:53
  works for him. It really does just work for him
• 50:56
  and his characters in general. I think there was a bus scene in
• 51:01
  episode 13, which I know a lot of people really like bus
• 51:04
  scenes. This one worked for me where
• 51:07
  it's a crowded bus and he's like holding back the crowd from like
• 51:12
  crushing her, that sort of thing.
• 51:15
  Every time. Every time works, every time it.
• 51:18
  Works every time. I'm going through like, the
• 51:21
  bigger like, moments. So episode 15, girl, he shuts
• 51:25
  the cab door because she's about to leave from like, some get
• 51:29
  together. Yeah, he shuts the cab door
• 51:32
  before she gets in and he says I'll pick you up tomorrow
• 51:35
  morning and reminds her about their date promise when he made
• 51:41
  the transition to tennis. Because now he's he broke the
• 51:45
  coach's serve and he's on the team, He's the captain.
• 51:48
  And I just haven't all caps. The rizz, It's the rizz, It's
• 51:53
  the rizz. And you know what?
• 51:54
  I know you haven't watched it, but think about this Rizz but
• 52:00
  times it by 10 and that's a midst a snowstorm of Oh my.
• 52:04
  God yeah, I've left up on episode 5 of Amidst the
• 52:09
  Snowstorm of Love. I don't think I've hit the peak
• 52:11
  RIS yet in that show. It's just constant.
• 52:15
  It's constant, constant and. But this episode is like such a
• 52:18
  big turning point in their relationship because tell me why
• 52:23
  I was swooning. He's so excited for their date.
• 52:27
  He gets up at 7:00 AM, gets ready, he's doing exercises,
• 52:33
  checking on his chest muscles like before he heads out.
• 52:36
  He's like trying to like hype himself up.
• 52:38
  It's adorable. Then they go on the zoo date, A
• 52:42
  zoo date. How adorable.
• 52:44
  Then the confession scene. The confession scene.
• 52:48
  I had this whole speech here. I don't know if I don't know if
• 52:51
  I want to read it all, but I it just goes to show how much she
• 52:55
  inspires him. He's talking about how there are
• 53:00
  differences between badminton and tennis and how the ball has
• 53:03
  to touch the ground in tennis. He says for tennis, every shot
• 53:08
  must touch the ground. Because of that, it took me a
• 53:10
  long time to get used to it. But when I thought about it
• 53:11
  later, it's very similar to me. Since I met you, my heart
• 53:15
  started touching the ground. I feel like I also need to touch
• 53:19
  the ground and rebound. And I'm like, stop right there.
• 53:23
  Just stop. Just stop.
• 53:26
  It's it's just yeah, yeah, he. Calls her a ray of light shining
• 53:30
  on me. I don't want to disappoint you.
• 53:34
  I want to stand upright by your side.
• 53:36
  That day when we talked about why we wanted to play tennis, he
• 53:39
  said that you wanted the championship.
• 53:41
  I'll win that for you. And then he says I like you.
• 53:44
  I seriously really like you, Liliana.
• 53:48
  Tell me why this bitch rejects him.
• 53:51
  She rejects. This man, I think at that point,
• 53:54
  at that point, she's just not ready.
• 53:57
  She's just not ready for it. Yeah, yeah.
• 54:00
  She flat out rejects him. She flat out, she calls it an
• 54:04
  improper relationship, Yeah, Says she can't handle the burden
• 54:09
  of his life and feelings. It's always been a manager
• 54:12
  athlete relationship. Gives him back the little heart
• 54:15
  plushie he wanted the claw machine for her.
• 54:19
  Like he looks crestfallen. He really does he.
• 54:23
  I don't know how she drove off. She left him there.
• 54:26
  She left his ass there in the parking garage.
• 54:29
  I don't know how she did that. I don't know either.
• 54:32
  I don't know how she left him there.
• 54:34
  He was devastated. The thing is right, you can see
• 54:39
  where she's coming from as well. 100%.
• 54:43
  And that's why I think this show is so good because although
• 54:47
  you're heartbroken for him and you're also saying how dare she,
• 54:52
  on the other hand, you're like, Oh my God, I understand you.
• 54:56
  Because first of all, she is in her 30s.
• 55:00
  She is very much focused on her career right now.
• 55:02
  And that means she does want to keep that professional
• 55:05
  relationship, although this hasn't been a very straight
• 55:09
  professional relationship for a good while, right?
• 55:14
  But in her head she's just trying to keep that straight
• 55:19
  still, right? Also, she has her mum being like
• 55:23
  never get in a relationship, never do that in the back of her
• 55:27
  mind. So we have that going and in
• 55:31
  general, I just don't think she is ready for that relationship
• 55:36
  yet, which is, and it's also showing of the age of how she in
• 55:43
  her 30s is way more careful. She's like, no, I need to think
• 55:46
  about things. I need to sit on things.
• 55:49
  Whereas him as like a 22 year old is very impulsive.
• 55:52
  And it's like, no, I know, I know I want this and I know I
• 55:55
  want to be in a relationship with you.
• 55:57
  So he's just much more assured of his feelings and what he
• 56:00
  wants than she is at that point. And they're just not quite on
• 56:04
  the same, like, on the same spot in that moment in time.
• 56:07
  So it's one of those scenes where, yes, you feel completely
• 56:11
  heartbroken for him. And you're just like, Oh my God,
• 56:14
  how dare she. But also you also look at her
• 56:18
  and it's like, I understand you so.
• 56:21
  So yeah. And there's one thing that the
• 56:23
  show does, doesn't necessarily do, but she does have a suitor
• 56:27
  at the beginning of the show who was sort of like a coworker who
• 56:32
  lives in another city, I think, like Shanghai or something like
• 56:35
  that. Yeah.
• 56:36
  He was a little bit older than her and he was very successful
• 56:41
  in Y Space Sports, which is the company that's kicking around
• 56:45
  throughout the show. And he was a Dick.
• 56:49
  Like he suddenly was like, why don't we get married?
• 56:53
  One of those that's like they don't have a relationship.
• 56:55
  It's like a situation ship and he's like, why don't we get
• 56:59
  married? We're at the proper age and she
• 57:02
  was having troubles at work. He was like, why don't you,
• 57:05
  since you're going to get fired anyway, why don't you just quit
• 57:10
  and be my little stay at home mother?
• 57:14
  And she was like, no, fuck you and fuck your mom.
• 57:16
  And it was like a wonderful moment.
• 57:19
  And then of course, Wooley's character witnesses this whole
• 57:22
  blowout at the company. Why space and supports her.
• 57:27
  But you compare that guy to Wooley's character and you can
• 57:31
  kind of see why she's a little hesitant.
• 57:34
  And the show doesn't do this explicitly.
• 57:36
  They don't compare these two guys overtly, but that's where
• 57:40
  we're. That's the starting point.
• 57:43
  That was her last. Relationship quote UN quote.
• 57:46
  Yeah, yeah. The bar is on the floor, as
• 57:49
  people say. Yes, someone who really wanted
• 57:51
  to, you know, was a sexist and wanted to clip her wings, so to
• 57:57
  speak, because because she was a career driven woman and didn't
• 58:02
  want that life for herself, right.
• 58:05
  Never mind that she couldn't have kids.
• 58:08
  They never got to that point where she told them, hey, I
• 58:10
  can't even have kids. So, like, I don't know what
• 58:13
  you're gonna do about that, but he just had all these
• 58:16
  expectations for her to be a homemaker.
• 58:19
  Yeah. And she was like, you know what?
• 58:21
  No, absolutely. Not.
• 58:23
  Yeah, and his argument was you got something better.
• 58:26
  You got something better to do. You got a better plan in mind.
• 58:30
  It was so condescending. And Oh my God, that whole
• 58:33
  conversation was wild in those beginning episodes.
• 58:36
  But. So bad.
• 58:37
  Yeah, yeah. But then you see her and you see
• 58:40
  that power imbalance between her as a manager and him as an
• 58:44
  athlete, and you know, she's just like, you know what?
• 58:47
  No. We're not going down.
• 58:50
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 58:51
  So you can understand where she's coming from, I think.
• 58:56
  But it's hard because Wooley, Oh my God, my heart broke.
• 58:59
  My heart broke his face when he says, are you rejecting me?
• 59:04
  Oh my God, I don't know how she handled it.
• 59:08
  I don't know how she drove off. I would have been like, come,
• 59:12
  I'll like drop you off or something because damn, that's
• 59:15
  cold. That's cold.
• 59:18
  Also in episode 21, we have to talk about this.
• 59:21
  They have sex. The make out scene.
• 59:24
  Oh. My God.
• 59:26
  Girl, almost one hot. Yeah, one hot make out scene.
• 59:30
  This was hot. I wasn't expecting it at all.
• 59:34
  This was her just giving in to her.
• 59:37
  She was like fucking this, I'm doing it.
• 59:40
  This was so out of left field. I mean, I wasn't out of left
• 59:43
  field because earlier he had come over to her house.
• 59:47
  He cooked her dinner because she got a migraine.
• 59:51
  And he was like, oh, I'll come over.
• 59:52
  She's trying to find investors for the club to save it.
• 59:55
  I think they were playing video games.
• 59:57
  And he takes a pic of her smiling.
• 59:59
  It's like a very flirty thing where she's like, delete it, I
• 1:00:02
  look gross. And he drops a silver necklace
• 1:00:08
  in front of her. Do you remember this?
• 1:00:10
  I haven't seen a custom necklace reveal like that since 2011.
• 1:00:16
  I swear to God I started screaming.
• 1:00:19
  Screaming because he. Wrapped the number in a midst so
• 1:00:23
  storm of love I'm sensing a patch.
• 1:00:27
  And now that I'm talking about this.
• 1:00:29
  Oh my God, so he's playing from the same playbook then, if he
• 1:00:36
  does it in a midst of snow? Summer of Love.
• 1:00:39
  But anyway, at the end of this episode, there's like the hazing
• 1:00:42
  ritual at her ex's Sports Club. He takes her lipstick and writes
• 1:00:48
  her name on the bulletin of outstanding graduates from her
• 1:00:51
  college. From her ex college because she
• 1:00:53
  got kicked out, expelled by her own ex.
• 1:00:57
  Another dirty ex. Right.
• 1:00:59
  Yeah, another ratty ex. She has a track with men.
• 1:01:03
  Yeah, she's a horrible tracker. When does she doesn't want a
• 1:01:05
  relationship? I know she's like 22 year old
• 1:01:08
  say less. No, no, no.
• 1:01:10
  But she's so overcome by emotion that she kisses him on the cheek
• 1:01:16
  and he's so surprised and hot for her that he just grabs her
• 1:01:20
  head and full on kisses her and then cut to they're having sex
• 1:01:24
  again screaming. I I was like screaming at 2:00
• 1:01:27
  AM Liliana. So good.
• 1:01:30
  Thoughts. I loved it.
• 1:01:32
  Like, it was like it was a proper, proper scene.
• 1:01:36
  There was none of this. It was hot and it was unexpected
• 1:01:40
  from a Chinese drama in general. And I remember clearly when I
• 1:01:43
  first watched this scene, I was like, Oh my God, this is really
• 1:01:46
  happening, like there. And it was, I don't know.
• 1:01:50
  I loved it. I really, really liked how it
• 1:01:52
  was shot. I like the fact that it felt
• 1:01:57
  like this damn bursting, right? This thing that had been
• 1:02:01
  building, this tension that had been building between them for
• 1:02:06
  20 odd episodes was just like boom and it burst and you get
• 1:02:11
  this scene and it just worked perfectly I think.
• 1:02:15
  I agree. I agree.
• 1:02:17
  So then. She rejects him again.
• 1:02:20
  Morning. She regrets.
• 1:02:23
  She rejects. Him again.
• 1:02:25
  The next morning she's like, we were drunk, I made a mistake,
• 1:02:29
  yadda yadda. She starts spewing all this
• 1:02:31
  nonsense and he's like. Again, are you kidding me now?
• 1:02:35
  Oh my God. He cuts her off, blocks her on
• 1:02:38
  WeChat, all the things, and she starts panicking.
• 1:02:42
  She does. She starts panicking.
• 1:02:43
  I'm like, good, good panic. You should be yeah, you should
• 1:02:47
  be worried. 28 though I like when he says, and I have just
• 1:02:53
  this paraphrase, he says, isn't the best love equal?
• 1:02:57
  I'm trying my hardest to level up to you.
• 1:03:01
  And I love that concept because they return to it later, several
• 1:03:05
  episodes later when he's in the hospital for his knee surgery.
• 1:03:11
  Yeah. Because he played through, like,
• 1:03:13
  a torn meniscus or something like that.
• 1:03:15
  Yeah. She's realized that
• 1:03:17
  relationships are not about each person giving 5050 and it being
• 1:03:22
  equal. Sometimes if the other person is
• 1:03:24
  at 1%, then she. She's got to give 99.
• 1:03:27
  It's going to give 99%. She'll show up in in the way
• 1:03:32
  that they need. This is one of my favorite
• 1:03:34
  things about this show because I think when it's a conversation
• 1:03:39
  that kind of gets overlooked a lot of the time is that people
• 1:03:44
  just think, Oh no, everything should be 5050 and whatnot. 5050
• 1:03:50
  looks different for different people on different days.
• 1:03:52
  Like sometimes I've only got 10% in me, so my partner's like
• 1:03:57
  today I'll give, I will put in the 90%.
• 1:04:01
  Other days he's going to have 5% and I'm going to step up and
• 1:04:05
  give him the 95%. Like that's what a relationship
• 1:04:08
  looks like. That's what supporting each
• 1:04:11
  other looks like. Every day is going to be
• 1:04:14
  different. And every day, you know, you're
• 1:04:16
  just going to have to step up to whatever each of you need on
• 1:04:20
  that particular day and give of each other.
• 1:04:23
  And I loved that concept in this drama.
• 1:04:26
  It's the fact that 5050 doesn't, it's not always equal either
• 1:04:32
  because like 5050 doesn't mean 5050.
• 1:04:35
  So I loved that aspect of the show and like that specific
• 1:04:41
  conversation that they talk about as well.
• 1:04:44
  I agree. It was really important and I
• 1:04:46
  think something that they both had to learn.
• 1:04:50
  And in that moment, she kind of voices it's realization for him
• 1:04:55
  because he was feeling really low, really down on himself,
• 1:04:58
  feeling sorry for himself, didn't want her around when he
• 1:05:01
  was at his lowest. And she was like, well, too bad,
• 1:05:06
  tough I'm. Going to be here.
• 1:05:07
  I'm going to be here. Yeah.
• 1:05:10
  So it was important. I love the match between him and
• 1:05:13
  the Japanese guy that he wins and then he, like, fucks up with
• 1:05:16
  his knee. It was funny though to see him
• 1:05:20
  acting through the knee injury because you would have thought
• 1:05:24
  he took a cannonball to the leg. It was.
• 1:05:27
  It was like, Oh my God, I've never seen such acting.
• 1:05:32
  Yeah, like. He was busting veins in his neck
• 1:05:35
  and stuff and I was like, what the?
• 1:05:38
  Fuck is happening? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:40
  I mean, I don't know. I've never had an injury like
• 1:05:42
  that, so I don't know what it's like, but.
• 1:05:46
  I was like, I think this is too much to be quite honest with
• 1:05:50
  you, but OK. They they end up telling you
• 1:05:54
  it's a medial meniscus, injury to the medial meniscus and also
• 1:05:58
  conjoined damage to the medial collateral ligament.
• 1:06:02
  Fortunately, the anterior fruciate ligament is fine.
• 1:06:05
  Otherwise he'd have to say goodbye to sports.
• 1:06:07
  I don't know what all that means, but I'll tell you this.
• 1:06:10
  My mom has had meniscus surgery because she had tear in her
• 1:06:14
  meniscus. She was not acting like all
• 1:06:18
  that. She also had a knee replacement
• 1:06:20
  surgery a few years ago. She was acting like all that a
• 1:06:24
  little bit because they replaced her entire knee with a bionic
• 1:06:28
  knee. Yeah, I was.
• 1:06:32
  Very confused by the reaction that he was having toward the
• 1:06:37
  injury and the pain level that he was at.
• 1:06:42
  So maybe if you're an athlete and you've had this injury or
• 1:06:45
  something similar, you can chime in and be like, yeah, absolutely
• 1:06:48
  his reaction was warranted or that acting was accurate.
• 1:06:53
  I personally think he was overacting in that portion of
• 1:06:57
  the show, especially the. Recovery.
• 1:07:01
  Yeah. I never even thought about it if
• 1:07:03
  I'm being honest. OK, maybe it's because I had a
• 1:07:06
  family member have such surgeries and an entire knee
• 1:07:09
  replacement that I'm like, all right, let's simmer down.
• 1:07:14
  It is painful, sure, but to that level he's turning red.
• 1:07:20
  Yeah, I don't know if it's because maybe because it was
• 1:07:25
  damaged and then he went and kept playing on it and damaged
• 1:07:29
  it even further. So I don't know if maybe that's
• 1:07:33
  why. I don't know.
• 1:07:34
  I don't know. I don't.
• 1:07:36
  Know like when it comes to that sort of stuff, I just throw it
• 1:07:39
  out the window like it doesn't even occur to me because they're
• 1:07:43
  going to over dramatize everything anyway.
• 1:07:45
  True. That's just how it is, because
• 1:07:47
  then it's comeback is so much better, isn't it so.
• 1:07:51
  Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Sports injuries.
• 1:07:55
  They're they're always going to amp it them.
• 1:07:58
  So the last thing that I guess I kind of want to talk about is
• 1:08:03
  her boss. Oh my God.
• 1:08:06
  I guess you don't want to talk about this guy because.
• 1:08:09
  No, we can. We absolutely can.
• 1:08:11
  He was just such. Oh my God.
• 1:08:14
  At the beginning he was such a piece of work.
• 1:08:18
  A piece of work. He was just a piece of shit.
• 1:08:21
  He was a horrible boss to her. He's so volatile and.
• 1:08:27
  Terrible parent. Terrible parent, abusive to her
• 1:08:31
  in the workplace, highly unprofessional, just tyrannical.
• 1:08:36
  2 faced machismo sexist completely passing her over for
• 1:08:41
  promotions for upward mobility within the company because he
• 1:08:46
  wanted her where she was at. She was doing such a good job,
• 1:08:49
  she was just indispensable in her position as his assistant.
• 1:08:52
  And I was like, she, it seems like she's doing the work of the
• 1:08:55
  entire marketing department. So I don't understand why you
• 1:08:58
  wouldn't just move her out to that department anyway.
• 1:09:02
  Yeah, it's because she made him look good.
• 1:09:06
  She made his department look good.
• 1:09:07
  And that's all he it was. I mean, that's literally all it
• 1:09:12
  was. His terrible father, terrible
• 1:09:14
  husband. I.
• 1:09:15
  He was cheating on his wife. I wish he kind of amped that up
• 1:09:20
  that he was full on cheating on his wife.
• 1:09:22
  But I love the fact that his wife was like, I'm done with
• 1:09:25
  this shit and I'm I'm going to take you for everything that
• 1:09:28
  you're worth. I'm like, I'm here for this.
• 1:09:30
  Because when then bad stuff starts happening to him and
• 1:09:34
  everything starts going downhill for him, him, I like, pile it
• 1:09:37
  on, keep it piling, keep it piling, keep it going.
• 1:09:40
  He deserves more, Yeah. Do you think his redemption arc
• 1:09:44
  was done well? No, I, I guess yes, because you
• 1:09:50
  know, he's alone. Well, no, he's not alone because
• 1:09:53
  I think he had some young hot girlfriend at the end of the
• 1:09:57
  show that they don't they don't show her face.
• 1:10:00
  She has no lines, but she was there in one frame.
• 1:10:05
  I just think that his punishment was that he didn't have the
• 1:10:10
  family, He didn't have any loyalty anymore, which was so
• 1:10:14
  important to him. He had nothing left, did he?
• 1:10:17
  He. Just had the job.
• 1:10:19
  That was his number one priority, Yeah, when he was
• 1:10:25
  taking the meeting with them so that they could get the wild
• 1:10:28
  card from Y space, that was the biggest low because he had no
• 1:10:35
  control over who got the wild. Card the wild card.
• 1:10:39
  Yeah, yeah. At that point, he was just
• 1:10:41
  taking it for, like, on a power trip, just a power trip over
• 1:10:45
  them. And at the end of the meeting,
• 1:10:47
  after scolding them, he was like, and by the way, I don't
• 1:10:52
  even have what you want. Yeah.
• 1:10:55
  And that's when she loses it finally, and berates him and
• 1:11:01
  says, I've had enough of your hypocritical speeches.
• 1:11:03
  Can you stop viewing yourself with a filter?
• 1:11:05
  All these years? You've always been egoistic with
• 1:11:07
  your family and in the workplace and granted favors and kindness
• 1:11:12
  to your staff. Like an emperor, you only think
• 1:11:14
  of maintaining your personal integrity.
• 1:11:16
  Who gives you the right to demand infinite loyalty from us?
• 1:11:20
  You can trick others today, let me tell you, you'll face
• 1:11:23
  retribution. And then she was like, never
• 1:11:25
  mind. You've already faced
• 1:11:26
  retribution. Yeah, we're done.
• 1:11:28
  Tap out. We're done.
• 1:11:30
  Yeah, because she kept being friendly with like, cordial with
• 1:11:34
  him throughout the show so that she didn't burn any bridges.
• 1:11:39
  But up to a certain point, I'm like, girl, I'll just let that
• 1:11:42
  shit go because that man. Is ain't nothing worth it?
• 1:11:45
  Dirty, yeah. Crusty.
• 1:11:49
  So I didn't know if you had any any other thoughts about some
• 1:11:52
  side characters like the sister, the half sister?
• 1:11:56
  No, I don't think so. I don't think I have.
• 1:12:00
  Oh, I will say I did quite like the fact that we got to see
• 1:12:05
  various different types of relationships in the show, like
• 1:12:09
  romantic relationships. So we had like the nutritionist
• 1:12:13
  with the alcoholic, alcoholic. Yes.
• 1:12:17
  So that's like a whole completely different
• 1:12:20
  relationship right there. And I didn't think that was
• 1:12:24
  going to work, but it really did.
• 1:12:27
  It kind of really did. And I loved her friendship with
• 1:12:31
  our female lead. I felt like the two of them as
• 1:12:34
  friends just worked really well. And then we had like the puppy
• 1:12:40
  love that then got married so quickly.
• 1:12:43
  So the. After four months, After four
• 1:12:46
  months they were married. Oh, I would not be on their side
• 1:12:50
  either. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:52
  I would be like, I have shoes that have lasted longer than
• 1:12:54
  your relationship, so no. Yeah, so it was wild to be to
• 1:12:59
  see, but I liked that there was all of these different
• 1:13:02
  relationships that we could kind of see throughout the show.
• 1:13:06
  I loved the found family at the Tennis Club and how like they
• 1:13:10
  started off as people that really did were not going to
• 1:13:13
  accept each other, especially like Jiao Jiao and Sanchuan.
• 1:13:17
  Those two become like so close as friends, they truly become
• 1:13:23
  brothers to each other. But at the beginning they are
• 1:13:26
  just so dead set against each other because obviously like
• 1:13:30
  Jiao Jiao is top of the club and whatnot.
• 1:13:33
  And here comes this guy who is going to take over whatever it
• 1:13:36
  may be. So I I really liked how that
• 1:13:40
  found family aspect of. It was five guys.
• 1:13:44
  Yeah, together, as you know, I really like them.
• 1:13:47
  And then just a little shout out to the stepdad because I really
• 1:13:51
  liked him as a character. It's Noodle Dad.
• 1:13:53
  It is Noodle Dad. It is Noodle.
• 1:13:56
  He makes such like good dad character.
• 1:14:00
  He does he. Really does.
• 1:14:01
  He really does. I recently watched him in a show
• 1:14:04
  where he's not a good character, he's a bad character and I was
• 1:14:08
  like, I can't see him as a bad character.
• 1:14:13
  So I really liked him and how he gave really, really good advice.
• 1:14:18
  He gave such good advice constantly.
• 1:14:21
  And, you know, he really cared for Santuan, and he really
• 1:14:25
  brought Santuan back down to where he needed to be when, you
• 1:14:30
  know, he kind of went off the rails a little bit.
• 1:14:33
  So, yeah, yeah. Exactly.
• 1:14:36
  And the moment when Santuan calls him dad.
• 1:14:40
  Oh my God, yes, yes, I love that.
• 1:14:42
  Yeah, I loved it. Loved it.
• 1:14:45
  So emotional. I love that.
• 1:14:48
  I fully thought that he was going to be the Stringer for the
• 1:14:53
  club but then he never does. He just keeps up with the wig
• 1:14:58
  business. And he's quite happy with it.
• 1:15:02
  And he's happy with it. Yeah.
• 1:15:04
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:15:06
  It's good. It's all good things really.
• 1:15:08
  Heart warming show and some frustrating characters as you
• 1:15:13
  can tell, but really solid performances from the the
• 1:15:18
  central couple and a nice Nuna romance.
• 1:15:23
  It is, it is, it is a good overall Nuna romance which we
• 1:15:27
  don't get very often nowadays. So it is nice when they come
• 1:15:31
  along and they are this good and this well done in general.
• 1:15:36
  All right. Well, thank you Liliana for
• 1:15:39
  coming on for one more Tebagh review.
• 1:15:43
  Where can people find you online?
• 1:15:45
  So it's T and Soju all one word on TikTok, Instagram, and then
• 1:15:50
  you can find T and Soju podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and
• 1:15:55
  wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks again, Liliana.
• 1:15:59
  Thank you for having me, it's always a blast.
• 1:16:02
  Yes, it is always a blast. We finally did the Leo Wu drama.
• 1:16:07
  We did we. Were promised.
• 1:16:08
  Last we did. Anyway, that's been our show.
• 1:16:13
  I'm Jessica and this has been the Tiba Ki Rambles podcast.