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NFL Draft Day 1, NBA & NHL Playoffs, MLB & More! · Best Betting Show Ever

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Speaker 1: Lawrence Presman here, it's the best betting show ever. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna make you somebody art to Caesar, Joe and Aery.
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Speaker 1: We're going to take apart every NBA game today, all
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Speaker 1: the NHL games and there are three and baseball art.
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Speaker 1: How did the books do last night?
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Speaker 2: It was actually, you know, I know all the people
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Speaker 2: in the comments will be happy to hear this. It
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Speaker 2: wasn't a winning day or losing day. It was more
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Speaker 2: of a break even day. So you know, we come
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Speaker 2: back today and see if we can win.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're really not praying for you at all, Joe
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Speaker 1: on behalf of both of us. I hope you get.
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Speaker 3: Killed, correct, yes, ah.
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Speaker 1: Art, Before we get into Before we get into anything,
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about headfakes because you mentioned it
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Speaker 1: often and especially recently during the NBA playoffs, where you
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Speaker 1: are saying people are betting up and you're saying, well
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fake, they might come back down. Can
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Speaker 1: you explain that to our listening audience please?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I love the Joe and I always
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Speaker 2: try to kind of identify some of these games football
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Speaker 2: to me and listen. I know we're not in football season,
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Speaker 2: but that's really where the headfake is. It's really in
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Speaker 2: the football markets because you can go through key numbers,
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Speaker 2: so that's usually where you find it. But you have
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Speaker 2: seen that a lot in these NBA playoffs. They're betting
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Speaker 2: a game totally up three or four points and then
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Speaker 2: it crashes all the way down an hour before tip
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Speaker 2: off and even gets below an opening number or right
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Speaker 2: back to the opening numbers. So you really have seen
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Speaker 2: that mostly with the totals here in the NBA, not
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Speaker 2: so much the sides, But that's what it is. It's
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Speaker 2: a group trying to set up a particular total or
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Speaker 2: side whatever it may be, one way and then try
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Speaker 2: to come back all the way, like they want to
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Speaker 2: bet something up three points and then they want to
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Speaker 2: really pound it to the under because they have more outs,
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Speaker 2: they have more places they can get down more money.
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Speaker 2: So you know they'll lose five hundred here to win
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Speaker 2: two thousand somewhere else. So definitely happens.
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Speaker 1: Right, Uh, Joe is known to do that a lot.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 4: That would actually require me to have to get up
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Speaker 4: out of this studio, but yeah, yeah, that's that's why
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Speaker 4: we have people to do that.
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Speaker 1: So it's good stuff, yes, And this is a big thing.
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Speaker 1: Guys like you know, I mean to give you perspective.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there are networks, groups, syndicates of people, yep
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Speaker 1: that get together to do these sort of headmaches. And
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Speaker 1: they'll have three or four guys, you know, scattered around
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas that will all bet the over five hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars one thousand dollars each. The people the sportsbook managers
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Speaker 1: will recognize those people as people who are betting Joe
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Speaker 1: Niary and they will call each other. Make a move,
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Speaker 1: Joe and aarre syndicate group is betting to the over.
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Speaker 1: Everybody then moves Joe's hiding out in the corner with
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Speaker 1: ten times the amount of money waits for that to happen,
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Speaker 1: comes back on the under. And that's how you do
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Speaker 1: the head fake. Joseph's professional at it. That's why he's
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Speaker 1: not allowed to leave his studio, but he does have
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Speaker 1: about fifty guys that do it under him on a
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Speaker 1: regular basis.
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Speaker 3: That's it. Rest the box.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and President, you know, we have people not necessarily
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Speaker 2: labeled head fake, but labeled as losing betters. But we
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Speaker 2: know what their we know what their task is. Their
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Speaker 2: task is to lose money. Here to move lines, because
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Speaker 2: if you are a place like you know, Westgate or
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Speaker 2: Circa or a place that can dictate the market a
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Speaker 2: little bit, you're gonna bet at those places. And it's fine,
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Speaker 2: once again, if you lose one hundred grand here for
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Speaker 2: the year, but everywhere else you want a quarter of
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Speaker 2: a million dollars. It's just the way it goes. So
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Speaker 2: we recognize that there are plenty of people who.
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Speaker 1: Do that and what that shows you guys out there,
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Speaker 1: and then we'll get onto this is how important half
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Speaker 1: point moves, one point moves are, how tight the lines are,
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Speaker 1: how chasing bad numbers is going to ultimately make you
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Speaker 1: a loser. If you wanted to bet under two seventeen
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Speaker 1: in the New York Knicks game, well now you're stuck
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Speaker 1: betting under two fourteen and a half. If you want
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Speaker 1: to bet over two twenty, well now you're stuck in
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Speaker 1: the Toronto game betting over two twenty and a half.
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Speaker 1: And the Minnesota game has moved three as well. Everything
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Speaker 1: has gone up except for the Atlanta New York Knicks game.
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Speaker 1: Joe Art, let's start with you, what kind of money
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Speaker 1: you're taking on these games? Are you aligned with all
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Speaker 1: these moves and what do you think we should bet.
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Speaker 3: U for us?
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Speaker 2: In the Nick game. We did take under money to
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Speaker 2: sixteen and a half this morning, went to two fifteen
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Speaker 2: and a half. Like you said, that keeps climbing, keeps getting,
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Speaker 2: you know, pushed down a point at a time. Maybe
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Speaker 2: that's a head fake game. We are taking sharp money
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Speaker 2: on the Knicks at pick. We were one when I
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Speaker 2: came in this morning. We're now one and a half.
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Speaker 2: So Nick's minus one and a half. Raptors calves they
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Speaker 2: bet that over this morning at two nineteen and a half,
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Speaker 2: are now two twenty one and a half. And you know,
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Speaker 2: Nuggets Tea Wolves. I mean, listen, there was some thoughts
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Speaker 2: that maybe Edwards was not gonna play, which is ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Of course he's gonna play. So that's actually seemed pretty
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Speaker 2: good two way action. But you know, this isn't a
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Speaker 2: normal NBA site like we see right, all these points
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Speaker 2: spreads are like one and a half, two, two and
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Speaker 2: a half game open pick in the Nick game. These
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Speaker 2: aren't these thirteen and fourteen point spreads. So we're actually
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Speaker 2: on the three games gonna see really good two way
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Speaker 2: action on the sides because of that, Yeah, job.
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Speaker 4: Are you seeing starting to notice any of the zigzag
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Speaker 4: happening now in both the NBA and NHL, or is
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Speaker 4: it one or the other for you?
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Speaker 2: No, you definitely see that people live by that zigzag.
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Speaker 2: They also live by the theory of like look at
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Speaker 2: the Raptors Calves game, which it hasn't been as profitable
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Speaker 2: here these last couple of years, but you know the
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Speaker 2: Calves are a three point road favorite. But you look
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Speaker 2: at like a first half some places, Raptors open minus
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Speaker 2: a half in the first half. You know it's that
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Speaker 2: old well they're gonna come out and you know the
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Speaker 2: first quarter is going to be a pick them and
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Speaker 2: you know those minus three doesn't correlate to the other
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Speaker 2: team being favored, obviously, that never happens that way. So
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Speaker 2: you've seen that a lot with the two team coming home.
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Speaker 2: That theory, though, I've seen something where it really hasn't
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Speaker 2: held water here over these last handful of years. It's
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Speaker 2: actually been a losing bet. But there are some people
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Speaker 2: who still like to attack that type of system.
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Speaker 1: All right. The Caesar joining Us is with us every Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: Wednesday or day Friday. Hit the like buttons. Subscribe to
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Speaker 1: our channel. Friday's NHL. I know I'm dropping a day.
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Speaker 1: Oh we got a road favorite Tampa Bay, a road
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Speaker 1: favorite Edmonton. We're not seeing a I don't see the
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Speaker 1: zigzagging in the NHL quite yet. You've got Ottawa at
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Speaker 1: home down to their favorite tonight art Tonight's games three
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Speaker 1: of them, Butlalo, Boston, Carolina, Ottawa, Colorado, La. Which one
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Speaker 1: you're taking the most action on and what game should
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Speaker 1: we bet? Would you like anything?
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Speaker 2: It's the Ottawa game. You know, we've had them lay
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Speaker 2: one and a half with Ottawa and take Ottawa in
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Speaker 2: the sixty minute, and then we've seen Carolina money. So
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Speaker 2: it's one of those where if they're gonna lay the
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Speaker 2: one and a half, they're gonna take the dog on
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Speaker 2: the other side. Best case scenario would be Ottawa to
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Speaker 2: win by one. You know, obviously it's not gonna be
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Speaker 2: as heavy as like these Colorado games have been, but
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Speaker 2: that's kind of where we're set up for that. The
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Speaker 2: Bruins games seen really good two way action. You know,
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Speaker 2: when you get to that Kings game, they're always going
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Speaker 2: to take a shot with a big dog. So you've
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Speaker 2: seen a little bit of King's Love but hasn't really
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Speaker 2: been much on that, and we've actually seen a little
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Speaker 2: bit of under money too on the Ottawa game.
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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Joe, I'm just going I mean, has are
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Speaker 4: you starting to see?
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Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 4: Philadelphia? Now just pack it up? Down three nothing quick series.
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Speaker 4: Here comes all the Pittsburgh hate or does anybody is
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Speaker 4: all the value in backing a team like Pittsburgh now
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Speaker 4: down three to nothing in this series?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess maybe a desperate team. I know, pres
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Speaker 2: you love this angle. If they're gonna get swept, maybe
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Speaker 2: maybe they pull the girl the goalie early, you take
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Speaker 2: the over.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 2: You know who cares if you lose my ten goals,
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Speaker 2: I mean, your seasons on the line. There could be
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Speaker 2: an angle there, but you know, really not much yet
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Speaker 2: as far as that game goes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I gotta tell you, I never correct me
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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong there, Art, I gotta think that that
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Speaker 1: game has not been one of the that matchup has
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Speaker 1: not been one of the higher bet matchups of this round.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just very little sexy about that.
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Speaker 2: No, there's not, And especially now when you're sitting three
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Speaker 2: to zero two. Oh, you're right. There are definitely games
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Speaker 2: and series and teams Even though listen. I mean, the
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Speaker 2: Penguins have their following and you know we know that,
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Speaker 2: and obviously the Flyers on the East coast with the
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Speaker 2: Philly fans. But yeah, that series is definitely more out
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Speaker 2: of the eight series. At the bottom there, what do
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Speaker 2: you got baseball wise? So they took Red Sox money
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Speaker 2: against the Yankees against Slitler, which is surprising. Red Sox's
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Speaker 2: high as plus one thirty five. Mets finally won a game,
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Speaker 2: so they're saying, hey, let's back the Mets. Maybe they
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Speaker 2: start winning streak. They took the Mets, you know, even
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Speaker 2: money plus one on one, kind of in that range,
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Speaker 2: and then pretty sharp money from one of our shartbetters
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Speaker 2: in MLB who only bets totals. He met the under
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Speaker 2: in the Diamondbacks game under eight and a half.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was nine.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just saw that at eight and a half too.
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Speaker 4: How are all your Dodger moneyline parlays working out?
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Speaker 3: Are they?
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Speaker 4: Are they having a good time with that? Just go
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Speaker 4: ahead and lay it with the Dodger. And if you've
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Speaker 4: laid it with the with Colorado and the Avalanche, I mean,
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Speaker 4: what kind of sweat has that been in this series?
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Speaker 3: I thought there was used to win by a million
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Speaker 3: dollars over the Kings. What the hell happened?
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Speaker 2: It's truly amazing. How you know? We see it every day.
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Speaker 2: We see it on Twitter and TikTok and you know
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Speaker 2: Instagram where all these people have five and six legs
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Speaker 2: parlays and that big favorite. They're sweating it and they
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Speaker 2: lose it. I mean, yeah, it's pretty amazing.
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Speaker 1: So I'm in my dress. I'm in the dressing room
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Speaker 1: at hockey on Tuesday night, and please excuse me, because
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Speaker 1: you know you bet every day a night for a
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Speaker 1: loving I can't even remember what games were on Tuesday night. Like, honestly,
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Speaker 1: I don't have a clue. But the guy sitting next
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Speaker 1: to me, he goes, oh, I go, oh uh what
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Speaker 1: I go Montreal scored or something. I think it was Montreal,
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Yes, yes, Tampa Bay. So he's like, oh shit,
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Speaker 1: I got a huge parlay going. I'm let me guess.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, let me guess Tampa Bay, Colorado. Okay, see,
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Speaker 1: I don't remember. There were two big super big spurs
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Speaker 1: Spurs and he's like, yeah, how do you know?
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Speaker 3: How did I know? Unreal?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that one didn't win we move on. No,
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Speaker 1: no art draft goes tonight, You're off the board. There's
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Speaker 1: some Vegas rule that you can't take draft that's within
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Speaker 1: a twenty four hour period of the draft. Why does
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Speaker 1: that rule exist? No one knows who implemented that rule. Again,
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Speaker 1: that's no one knows.
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Speaker 2: It's a rule, that's what it is.
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Speaker 1: What that said, who are the Jets taking tonight?
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Speaker 2: Oh, they have two picks, they have two and sixteen.
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Speaker 3: Who.
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Speaker 2: Well, everything we've seen, it's either Bailey or it's Reese.
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Speaker 2: It's one of them. And we talked about this.
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Speaker 1: I'm going with Reese. Everybody.
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Speaker 2: What's the both of those guys have been like both
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Speaker 2: of both of those guys have been like minus two
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Speaker 2: to fifty favorites at one point.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but Bailey has gotten all the Bailey now
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Speaker 4: trending at around fifty five cents. So it was Reese yesterday,
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Speaker 4: but overnight a ton of money in the prediction markets
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Speaker 4: coming in on Bailey. Yeah, he's younger too, He's twenty
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Speaker 4: years old. He's younger of the two. Just as you know,
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Speaker 4: keeping in mind and who the Jets quarterback. Jets coaches,
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Speaker 4: maybe they want the younger guy. They can mold that
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Speaker 4: doesn't have all the bad habits yet that that could be.
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Speaker 1: And he reminds me of Micah the Reese. He's all
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Speaker 1: over the field, he's you know fast, Yep, that's who
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Speaker 1: I'm going with them. I getting any kind of good
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Speaker 1: value on that bet?
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Speaker 4: Art forty five cents now, Okay, there we go.
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Speaker 3: I meant it's still a it's a coin flip.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, another pres another pres bet. By the way, nailed
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Speaker 1: bitcoin yesterday, but we do have a bit problem that
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Speaker 1: we got to speak about. Art. You'll get a kick
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Speaker 1: out of this. We put the show up like an
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Speaker 1: hour after we do that bitcoin segment, and none of
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Speaker 1: those lines are there, none of them. One of our
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Speaker 1: listeners mentioned that yesterday, and I'm like, yeah, how do
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Speaker 1: we fix that? Well, we can't unless we go live,
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Speaker 1: and we're not going live.
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Speaker 4: So what do you mean none of the markets are there?
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Speaker 4: I mean it doesn't swing there like.
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Speaker 1: No, but it does swing a little bit. It does
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Speaker 1: swing a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Okay, not the actual baseline number doesn't swing. You mean
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Speaker 4: the percentage of whether we're going over or down? Well, yeah,
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Speaker 4: because people are actually very important.
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Speaker 1: Those are very important.
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Speaker 3: Art.
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Speaker 1: What else you got for us? Then we'll get to
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Speaker 1: the parlor of the day. I know you're working, you
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Speaker 1: gotta go. You also have a new boss looking over
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Speaker 1: your shoulder, so let's get it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, nothing really, Let's just let's hit
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Speaker 2: the parlay of the day.
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Speaker 3: Boom.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to hit it art.
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Speaker 2: You go first, all right, Senators must win. Give me
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Speaker 2: the Senators minus one twenty five at home. I think
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Speaker 2: they are not going to get swept in the series.
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Speaker 2: This is the game they win.
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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, there you go. I am going to go
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Speaker 1: with the over in the Buffalo Boston game at six.
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Speaker 1: What do you got, Joe?
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Speaker 3: That's impressive over there.
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Speaker 1: It's really not just like words come out of my mouth.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Do you understand the words that are coming out of
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Speaker 4: my mouth?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: I know. Listen, I happen to think that I'm gonna
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Speaker 4: go major League Baseball here today. And I do think
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Speaker 4: winning is contagious art. So I do agree with the
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Speaker 4: Mets love because after you break a long losing streak
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Speaker 4: like that, it's usually followed with a couple of wins.
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Speaker 4: So they got Soto back. I'll go with the Mets
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Speaker 4: here on the money line.
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Speaker 1: And that's a great angle to Joe. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: know you just brushed over it, but that is an
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Speaker 1: angle that you can use in every sport except cricket.
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Speaker 3: Cricket, well, we knew we have a new.
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Speaker 1: Cricket scandal going on. Art, Do you guys take bets
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Speaker 1: on cricket because it's got to be the most fixed
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Speaker 1: sport in the world. We have had We have caught
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Speaker 1: fixers on a regular basis. I mean Hansie Kranier was caught.
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Speaker 1: He was the captain of the South African cricket team.
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Speaker 1: How is that or a name drop? Shane Warren was
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Speaker 1: court court cricket legend, greatest spinner of all time? Is
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Speaker 1: that or a name drop? You've got a ton of
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Speaker 1: cricketers that have actually been caught fixing matches. You now
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Speaker 1: have a new one captain of the Canada cricket team.
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Speaker 1: I know, no one knew there was a cricket team
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Speaker 1: in Canada. I get it. We actually had a great batsman,
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Speaker 1: Johnny David's another great name drop. Yes, I'm a cricket fan.
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Speaker 1: Uh look at this guy. What is going on in
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Speaker 1: the world of cricket? Art? Do you know anything as
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Speaker 1: a book manager?
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Speaker 2: I know nothing. We don't take cricket. If you would
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Speaker 2: have told me number of cricket players you can name
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Speaker 2: one and a half, I would have pounded the under.
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Speaker 2: You just named three, and it feels like you can
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Speaker 2: name a thousand more. I'm surprised and shocked by all that.
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Speaker 2: That's incredible, dude.
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Speaker 1: My favorite athlete of all time is a cricketer. Should
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Speaker 1: we go, Yeah, that's amazing. Steve Wall he was the
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Speaker 1: opening batsman for Australia and his twin brother Mark. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's a cricket It's.
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Speaker 2: A guy who played cricket, not a hockey player.
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Speaker 1: Wow, dude, I got, dude, I got. I'll tell you
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Speaker 1: something's something very special about Steve Wall. But anyway, you
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Speaker 1: gotta go, so get out of here.
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Speaker 3: Bro.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Joe. I love cricket, man, I know it's
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Speaker 1: it's really crazy. And you know what, I love the
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Speaker 1: five dayre The five has one of the greatest single
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Speaker 1: rules in all of sports.
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Speaker 4: I mean right, it's you know, some people love Australian football,
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Speaker 4: some people love I like it, some people like Belarus
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Speaker 4: handball leagues, whatever you like.
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Speaker 3: Whatever.
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Speaker 1: No, never never been, never been a big handball guy.
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Speaker 1: But I just want to tell you the great rule
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Speaker 1: in five minute test cricket, which I think they should
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Speaker 1: use in baseball, okay, and that is you play to
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Speaker 1: a clock. So imagine if a baseball game ended at
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Speaker 1: the three hour mark, no matter what what, and if
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Speaker 1: you're up twelve to four, it's still a tie game.
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Speaker 3: Interesting.
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Speaker 1: So how does a team up twelve to four make
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Speaker 1: sure it does not end in a tie? They do, Joe.
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Speaker 1: They give up their bats.
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Speaker 3: Really, that's all.
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Speaker 1: They just declare their bats. They say, we will not
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Speaker 1: bat in the eighth inning, we will not bat in
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Speaker 1: the ninth inning. That rule is unbelievable. The amount of
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Speaker 1: strategy that goes into that decision is incredible. And of
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Speaker 1: course the other team is trying to slow the game
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Speaker 1: down to a croll, right, So when they're batting, they
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Speaker 1: want to bunt the ball more, they want to muck around,
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Speaker 1: they want to get high in the count. Well, then
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Speaker 1: the other team, conversely will have to adjust their pitching
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Speaker 1: strategy to speed up the game a little bit more. So, Uh, unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: I actually love that rule, Joe. I mean, in all seriousness,
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Speaker 1: I love that rule a.
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Speaker 3: Lot.
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Speaker 1: To talk about we got our predictive markets, we got
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Speaker 1: time to take care of some business or rundowns. Of course.
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Speaker 1: The mailback section of the show about sixty comments, lots
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Speaker 1: of love everyone, thank you for doing that. Let's get
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Speaker 1: into our predicted market segment, Joe, and then we'll get
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Speaker 1: to business.
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Speaker 3: Sure, all right, Prez.
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Speaker 4: Well, let's take a look first and foremost here at
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Speaker 4: the Vegas Golden Knights and Utah. That game coming up here, Prez,
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Speaker 4: Vegas a little cheaper now at Utah ended up winning
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Speaker 4: it here, trading right around sixty cent, So about a
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Speaker 4: sixty forty.
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Speaker 3: Split right now?
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Speaker 4: Any value on taking Vegas or maybe Utah in this one.
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Speaker 3: Here, Prez?
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Speaker 1: So is this to win the series?
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Speaker 3: This is to win the series? Yes?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know it's funny you asked me about
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Speaker 1: this game because I just did a very deep dive
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Speaker 1: into some some of the side metrics in this game,
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Speaker 1: in this matchup, and Utah is ahead in every minut
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Speaker 1: a metrics. I did not expect that, you know, looked
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Speaker 1: at I looked at these teams, and I thought to myself,
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Speaker 1: this Vegas team is a veteran team, mark Stone is
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Speaker 1: an excellent leader. They're loaded with talent. But then when
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Speaker 1: you break it down, man, they're getting out shot there
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Speaker 1: and there. The possessions are less, they have less power plays,
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Speaker 1: they're winning less face offs, they're hitting less. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think Utah's got the value at forty one, Joe,
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Speaker 1: and it's coming back home. If they win that game,
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Speaker 1: that automatically jumps ten twelve percent right there. I think
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Speaker 1: the bet is on Utah forty.
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Speaker 4: All right, and then of course you've got Prez, I
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Speaker 4: believe that game. We just saw the results last night,
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Speaker 4: so and what again, it was a very strange game
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Speaker 4: last night between Minnesota and Dallas, and it certainly feels
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Speaker 4: like this series could.
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Speaker 3: Have done either way anyway.
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Speaker 4: But now it's what two to one Dallas, and you
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Speaker 4: can get Dallas hovering around, it looks like sixty five
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Speaker 4: cents Minnesota thirty five cents. Here is my question, Prez,
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Speaker 4: because it's only two to one Minnesota. Next games at home,
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Speaker 4: what are you thinking?
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Speaker 1: I think Minnesota thirty five cents for two reasons. Three reasons. One,
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Speaker 1: I think they could win the series. Two, I think
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Speaker 1: the series is going seven. Both of those are going
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Speaker 1: to make you money. And three I think they win
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Speaker 1: the next hockey game. So you know what Minnesota did
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Speaker 1: last night was show an incredible amount of moxie. I
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Speaker 1: understand they lost, but this is a team that was
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Speaker 1: down to nothing. They fought back, they were you know,
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Speaker 1: they showed they were down. I think three two. No,
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Speaker 1: they were up three two, but they did. They did
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Speaker 1: let in a shitty goal to tie at three to three.
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Speaker 1: But I think I think last night's game voted what
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Speaker 1: bodes well with Minnesota, uh and not Dallas. I think
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Speaker 1: Minnesota has shown they could skate with this team. I think,
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Speaker 1: you know they I think they're a better team. I
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Speaker 1: think they get it done at thirty what was a
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Speaker 1: thirty something percent? Yeah, my original reaction was Dallas all
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Speaker 1: the way. I actually was lucky. I was gonna release
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Speaker 1: Dallas in Game one they lost six to one. I
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Speaker 1: toke myself off of that bet. But I'm now I
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Speaker 1: now believe in this Minnesota Wild team.
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Speaker 3: I'm with you at Prez.
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Speaker 4: I think there's money to be made in both of
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Speaker 4: both those sides because I think they're going to go
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Speaker 4: seven games. And I'm with you and I think the
22:36
Speaker 4: same thing can be said about Minnesota and Denver right now. Denver,
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Speaker 4: I mean, is a little overpriced if you ask me,
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Speaker 4: given the fact that Minnesota has already proven over the
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Speaker 4: last three years that they can go toe to toe
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Speaker 4: with this Denver team. So I mean Minnesota right now
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Speaker 4: going home at thirty two thirty three cents, I mean,
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Speaker 4: I gotta think pres if this goes games, which I
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Speaker 4: think it will in Minnesota, Locke Minnesota in at that price,
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Speaker 4: I think you'll have opportunity, You'll have outs with profits
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Speaker 4: across the board.
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Speaker 1: Well, who's gonna win tonight, Joe? I mean, ultimately that
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Speaker 1: bet is really gonna come down to tonight.
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Speaker 3: Yes it is.
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Speaker 4: And I think Minnesota's got a really good shot of
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Speaker 4: doing exactly what they just did because the defensive deficiencies
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Speaker 4: of Denver are legit. That's not gonna change overnight. Now,
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Speaker 4: the question is is Anthony Edwards playing or is he
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Speaker 4: not playing? I find it hard to believe that he
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Speaker 4: would not play tonight. He's still questionable. I still think
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Speaker 4: he's gonna go. And yeah, listen, home court matters in
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Speaker 4: these spots. But man, oh man, if Minnesota wins tonight,
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Speaker 4: I can assure you you ain't getting them at thirty
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Speaker 4: three cents.
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Speaker 1: Yep on on that one. Okay, My brother, Bitcoin has
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Speaker 1: come down slightly seventy eight three. I'm going to continue
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Speaker 1: with the under trend here, Joe. Let's go with the
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Speaker 1: no on the fifty two cents at under seventy eight five.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's where I'm going Again. In an hour
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Speaker 1: or so when the show comes up, that line might
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Speaker 1: have moved, but my actual bet of under seventy eight
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Speaker 1: thousan five hundred will remain the same. I think we're
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about even money.
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Speaker 4: Press, So there you go, all right, under seventy eight
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Speaker 4: five at five o'clock Eastern time today in bitcoin.
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Speaker 3: There you go, Press, Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 1: My brother, Okay, dude, let's get to some business and
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Speaker 4: So here's what you've got here tonight, right, Prez, because
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Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting with the Knicks taking on
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Speaker 4: the Atlanta Hawks here. So the question is, all, right, Mike,
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Speaker 4: all sorts of nice new rotations you threw in there
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Speaker 4: in the second half of that game at the Garden,
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Speaker 4: which many people will point to and say that was
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Speaker 4: the reason why the Knicks lost. But the question is,
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Speaker 4: is it's something more than that. You can't score fifteen
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Speaker 4: points in the fourth quarter and expect, you know, expect
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Speaker 4: good things to happen. In fact, I think heading into
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Speaker 4: that game, the New York Knicks had been just unbelievably.
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Speaker 4: I think they've lowed fifty three and one, I believe
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Speaker 4: is what I saw. And the only game they lost
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Speaker 4: was to Reggie Miller back in the day against the
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Speaker 4: Pacers in the postseason, when they were up by at
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Speaker 4: least fourteen heading into the fourth quarter. That is how
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Speaker 4: rare that meltdown by the Knicks was in the postseason.
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Speaker 4: In that game, it also landed under. And That's where
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna look here, because this one opened up two seventeen.
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Speaker 3: We're starting to see the.
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Speaker 4: Over money pres and I'm not buying it. I still
28:57
Speaker 4: think these two teams are capable of way more. That
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Speaker 4: game would have went flying over the total had it
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Speaker 4: not been for the Knicks and Atlanta, for that matter,
29:08
Speaker 4: completely crap in the bed there coming out of the break.
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Speaker 4: I think both these teams are capable of more offense here,
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Speaker 4: and I think you'll see it. I think two fifteen's
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Speaker 4: a little bit low for this one here tonight. I
29:21
Speaker 4: will say it a thousand times. Emmanuel Quigley. Make sure
29:24
Speaker 4: you understand what his status is for the game. I
29:27
Speaker 4: did see some props out there for Toronto with him.
29:32
Speaker 4: That's important because they need him. They have turned the
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Speaker 4: ball over forty times in two games here. That is
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Speaker 4: not going to get it done. They need a point
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Speaker 4: guard that can give them some offensive options. He has
29:47
Speaker 4: to be out on the court here tonight before I
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Speaker 4: consider anything in that one. And Denver and the Minnesota
29:53
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Speaker 1: There we go, Joe, three games. Let's do the totals first,
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Speaker 1: then the sides. I like two overs, one under. I
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Speaker 1: like Buffalo and Boston to go over the total. And
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Speaker 1: as I'm talking, we're seeing money pouring in on the over.
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Speaker 1: It is six across the board. We now have two
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Speaker 1: six and a halfs. I do not like this game
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Speaker 1: over six and a half. Do not bet this game
30:21
Speaker 1: over six and a half, but I do like it
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Speaker 1: over six. That's a big, big difference in it's a
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Speaker 1: similar situation with Carolina and Ottawa. There are a few
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Speaker 1: six's out there. I like the under. I would prefer
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Speaker 1: if you guys were to bet under five and a
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Speaker 1: half in that game. I like that more than the
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Speaker 1: over six and a half in the Buffalo Boston game.
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Speaker 1: But I really really don't love betting under sixes or
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Speaker 1: over six six and a half, So five and a
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Speaker 1: half or over six and a half, So try to
30:55
Speaker 1: find the best number out there. And I like the
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Speaker 1: over in the Colorado LA game, and that's five and
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Speaker 1: a half. I think we're gonna get six goals in that.
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Speaker 1: As for your side bets, I think Buffalo bounces back tonight,
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Speaker 1: guys even money. I think Ottawa gets it done tonight,
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Speaker 1: but I would not be surprised if this game goes
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Speaker 1: to overtime. I think plus three ten or so is
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Speaker 1: your overtime number. Minus one twenty is Ottawa, and I
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Speaker 1: think the Avs get it done again I actually don't
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Speaker 1: even think they've played well yet, so I wouldn't be
31:27
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if one of the next two
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Speaker 1: three games is a total blowout Colorado. I take them
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Speaker 1: in regulation. I don't even think it's going to go
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Speaker 1: to overtime minus one ten Joe, MLB all you.
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Speaker 4: Bro alright, MLB here today, pres and we got some
31:44
Speaker 4: early afternoon baseball games here and one o'clock you'll see
31:48
Speaker 4: the Brewers and the Tigers schooball on the mound in
31:51
Speaker 4: that one. But seven is your total? I don't think
31:57
Speaker 4: so there. Braves Nats is the other one. Just play
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Speaker 4: the over like I've been telling you. Both those teams
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Speaker 4: are over machines. Then we get interesting around two o'clock
32:05
Speaker 4: the Phillies sending out Sanchez versus Cabrera for the Cubs.
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Speaker 4: Are the Phillies ever going to win another game?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 4: Not if all they do is score two runs a game,
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Speaker 4: It's gonna be very difficult to do it. They've got
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Speaker 4: Sanchez on the mound. Wheeler will be back, I believe
32:20
Speaker 4: on Saturday for the first time. So I think better
32:24
Speaker 4: days are ahead for the Phillies, especially today. Padres and Rockies.
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Speaker 4: The Padres lost last night and they're only a buck
32:31
Speaker 4: fifty year today against the Rockies. I expect them to
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Speaker 4: bounce back in that spot. The Dodgers can't score. I
32:37
Speaker 4: don't know what that's all about. They're not gonna score
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Speaker 4: a whole lot today. Logan Web versus Glass Now, in
32:42
Speaker 4: this one, I would grab that first.
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Speaker 3: Five under while you.
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Speaker 4: Can there, White Sox Diamondbacks. You heard Art tell you
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Speaker 4: there is under money in the marketplace, and we've seen
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Speaker 4: nothing but overs between these two teams. Davis Martin, who's
32:56
Speaker 4: been fantastic, going up against Soroca who's also been fantastic.
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Speaker 4: Something has got to give first five under for me there.
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Speaker 4: I am not buying the Red Sox taking money with
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Speaker 4: something named tool. I think it's some tool pitching tonight.
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Speaker 4: Not against Schlitler Yankees. In the first five for me,
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Speaker 4: Twins and the Mets here, I told you, I think
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Speaker 4: the Mets are going to bounce back finally. And then
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Speaker 4: to Gram versus Chandler, Bubba Chandler going for Pittsburgh here
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Speaker 4: and the whole world is overpriced to Gram and Texas
33:29
Speaker 4: total is eight. Yeah, I still think the Rangers are
33:34
Speaker 4: going to get the better of the pirates in this one.
33:37
Speaker 4: That's where I'm looking present. That is your Major League
33:40
Speaker 4: Baseball rundown, Joe.
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Speaker 1: Let's get to the mailbag section. A huge shout out
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Speaker 1: to everyone who comments in our comment section. We read
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Speaker 1: them all, we talk about a little bit of them.
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Speaker 1: Kelly Vincenzo, we love you. Kelly. You're listening. You listen
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Speaker 1: to us every day, you comment every day. It's so
33:56
Speaker 1: greatly appreciated. He did write five of six home teams
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Speaker 1: won by the run line yesterday, shoe.
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Speaker 3: Shoe by all means keep betting it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so public service announce. So, guys, we had
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Speaker 1: six home teams win by the run line yesterday in baseball.
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Speaker 1: So moving forward, sell your house, sell your everything you own,
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Speaker 1: and only bet home teams on the run line as
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Speaker 1: yesterday told us what it is in the past and
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Speaker 1: in the future. What that said, guys, we're not we
34:44
Speaker 1: we know what we're freaking talking about. We know like,
34:50
Speaker 1: if you bet home teams minus one and a half
34:54
Speaker 1: every game blind, you will lose everything you own. Correct,
35:01
Speaker 1: we know what we're talking about. But I do appreciate you, Kelly,
35:06
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you putting this stuff up because, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: yesterday as Kelly wrote six home teams won by the
35:13
Speaker 1: run line with that said, I didn't even look, so
35:16
Speaker 1: I can't verify that information, but I'm sure he is correct. Koomb.
35:22
Speaker 1: Nice to see you, Koomb. He hates the Caesars sports book.
35:27
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is, Joe? Why do you
35:31
Speaker 1: hate on a sports book? Is it because you lose
35:34
Speaker 1: there a lot? Is it the smell of the place? Like,
35:38
Speaker 1: what's the reasoning?
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that might have something to
35:41
Speaker 3: do with it, though, I'm with you there.
35:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious, Koom, because you're a good dude. You
35:46
Speaker 1: listen to the show all the time, comment all the time.
35:49
Speaker 1: What makes you hate a sports book? I asked all
35:52
Speaker 1: of you guys that put it up in the comment section,
35:55
Speaker 1: what makes you hate a particular sports book?
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Speaker 3: Uh?
35:59
Speaker 1: Dave doobi great show today. I appreciate you, Dave, thank
36:03
Speaker 1: you for that. And then Joe, I want to get
36:05
Speaker 1: to this George Wood fifty five eleven. Firstly, George, thank
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Speaker 1: you for commenting. Greatly appreciated, he writes, pres Quit being
36:15
Speaker 1: so condescending with people that call into your show. I'm
36:21
Speaker 1: starting to see the dislike you knock people and then
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Speaker 1: apologize after the fact. You're transparent. All right, Okay, I
36:30
Speaker 1: didn't understand the transparent part. But what he's referring to
36:34
Speaker 1: Joe is that me and you or me mostly took
36:38
Speaker 1: You know, we made fun of Nathan yesterday and Nathan
36:42
Speaker 1: put some comment up and yeah we made fun of it,
36:45
Speaker 1: and yeah we're gonna do it again, George, So let
36:48
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36:54
Speaker 1: and YouTube. The amount of social media hate that I
36:57
Speaker 1: get on a regular basis would blow you skull. There
37:01
Speaker 1: is never a day that goes by where somebody doesn't
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Speaker 1: wish me dead another I've had people put in comment
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Speaker 1: sections that they hope my children burn in their bed
37:12
Speaker 1: that night. You go and you do this game for
37:16
Speaker 1: thirty years, You're gonna have losing nights, You're gonna have
37:19
Speaker 1: losing runs, You're gonna have losing seasons. The amount of
37:24
Speaker 1: venom that comes out of people towards us and what
37:27
Speaker 1: we do is unbelievable. And on top of all of that,
37:32
Speaker 1: Joe Nary does not get paid to do this show.
37:35
Speaker 1: He does the show because I asked him to do
37:37
Speaker 1: this show. So when people take the piss out of
37:42
Speaker 1: us nine out of ten times, it's all great. But
37:46
Speaker 1: every now and again, every now and again, I'm going
37:50
Speaker 1: to respond in kind, so I did last night. That
37:54
Speaker 1: doesn't make me condescending, George. It might make me a dick,
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't make me condescending. Get your adjectives right.
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Speaker 1: If you're going to insult me, my brother, I am
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Speaker 1: a douche, but I am not condescending towards these people
38:13
Speaker 1: because I say it exactly the way I feel it anyway.
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Speaker 1: With that said, I love all of them, even Nate,
38:24
Speaker 1: even Nate who has been pissing on me for six months.
38:28
Speaker 1: George doesn't know that. George doesn't know that Nate doesn't
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Speaker 1: stop starting with me every single day, but I still
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Speaker 1: love him. I love you. Oh, anybody who takes time
38:39
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38:42
Speaker 1: it's for one minute, to hit the like button to
38:45
Speaker 1: comment whether they like me or they hate me, I
38:49
Speaker 1: am so damn appreciative. Joe, Thanks for doing this with me,
38:52
Speaker 1: my brother.
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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure. Press give it again tomorrow, my man.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's it for the show. Everyone, Thanks for watching.
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Speaker 1: We will see you tomorrow,