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Real Housewives of Beverly Hills: "Upside Down Denise" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling. Hello, everybody, let's
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get back into the drama. It's Thursday. Very excited to talk about Beverly
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Hills today. Emily Desis is joining me for that. Hey, ems Hello,
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Well, we do have a little bit of dish to serve up in
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a second. But I do want to mention that our holiday hotline is open,
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the Drama Darling Holiday Hotline seven four seven three two two one two eight
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eight. Call, leave a voice message. What is your Housewives holiday wish?
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Do you want? Like? What show do you want canceled? What
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show do you want brought back? Who do you want fired? Who do
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you want brought back? Who do you not want to join the cast of
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Orange County Alexis Fellino? Who do you like? You know? These?
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Are you asking her directly? Are you asking? Are you? Are you
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winning the darlings? I want the darlings to weigh in on that. Seven
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four seven three two two one two eight eight. I saw Shannon Badore at
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Jeff Lewis's premiere party for season two of his amazing show on free V called
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Hollywood House Lift, And there were a couple housewives there, which you know
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you expect it, but then it's always wild to see them out in about,
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you know, I'm like, oh my god, there's Shannon, there's
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Vicky, there's Adrian Maloof, there's Kristin. Takema Adrian Maloof was there?
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Take me? Is she out here permanently now in Calabasas, yeah, which
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I said to her, I'm like, oh, how is your flight?
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And she's like, I live here. And you would have known that had
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you listened to me when I did your Reality Bites Live event. And I
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was like, I don't remember even saying that. I'm so sorry. Yeah,
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they moved out here like in twenty twenty. Wow, Sorry, there
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you go. And I was like, well, I didn't say that to
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her, But now I'm thinking, let's get you on Beverly Hills, baby.
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Yeah. I wonder if she is she gun in for that, because
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she's been really a kind of like around, like yeah, because she was
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on Ultimate Girls Trip, right, that's gonna be We're gonna see that this
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coming year. So that's why she's around. But now I'm thinking, listen,
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you know, there's always room to funnel in another housewife into a city
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that they've moved to and I mean Calabasas. I mean, you might as
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well join Beverly Hills. No one really lives in Beverly Hills anymore. Everyone's
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a jacent a jacent allegedly. But it was really fun. But yeah,
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I saw Shannon. She looks great. But my point is is that I
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still can't get over by the way, well she looks even better now.
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I mean she's like not drinking, you know what I mean, like this
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whole thing, It's just my whole point is that I can't believe that this
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nonsense about John Jansen an Alexis is actually happening, like they are actually dating
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and that is and is Bravo going to bring her meaning Alexis on Orange County
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to just shove it in Shannon's face because it just seems craw craw unnecessarily,
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I will say, And I'm very concerned about it. They're supposed to be
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filming in January. From what we read in the trades yesterday or rather earlier
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this week, it's going to be a fresh, a fresh holiday relationship,
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fresh off the holidays. Gross. I you know what if she ends up
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on that houseboat, I'm not I'm not gonna be happy about it the land
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houseboat. Yeah, the land house boat. I'm not going to be happy
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about it, you know what I mean? Well, now I wonder if
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Joe will like her, uh, because he did not like Shannon. Right.
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I look at the effort Shannon was putting out towards Jo. Yeah,
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I mean she was ready to jump in the water and go swim over to
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his boat's. She was willing to put in the time in the effort.
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Will Alexis there's a Darling messaged me and said that Denise said that she thought
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that it would be good for Shannon to be like the total Beth Dutton this
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season regarding like just like do you watch Yellowstone? No, but I knew
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the character you were talking about. Yeah, so Beth Dutton the whole the
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whole scene. Just be loose Cannon, but totally in control. That's going
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to be Shannon when she's putting this mess. Oh my gosh, I'm already
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stressing out about it. Well, the holl Hollywood houselift. I was gonna
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say holiday houselift, that would be cute. Was super fun. The party
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it was at Sunset Tower, which is very she She and theft is a
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great idea holiday houselift. Yeah, let's do a Hey freebe. We got
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an idea for you. I've got the nails for it. Holiday Houselift,
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I Holiday houselifted my nails. Yes, okay, so these are the pictures
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of my So this was a two step process. I had the acrylics done
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with it's a French with like a hunter green tip. Okay. Then I
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said, do you do pictures here? Do you do nail art? I
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said to Tracy's Nails hashtag Tracy's Nails and Xanta Clarita, and uh, they
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said, you know what Kim does, Hi, Kim Howard. Kim does
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it. But she's you know, she's working right now. She's wear cake.
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And so I said, can I come back in another day? So
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I came back and look at what we got here and putting up to the
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screen. If you're not if you're watching this, you are on Patreon.
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You are Tier two. We've got a green nail up and the tree cold
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nail. I've got my tree on this one. Now I've got my middle
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finger that's a snowflake on the middle finger that's and kind of like a candy
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cane swirl allion flag like I am Italian and a holly leaf on my thumb,
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you guys. Oh, but with the with the green tip top and
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the wreath bait, it looks like a full wreath. I thank you so
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much. Way to go so between your mind. You are welcome. Thank
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you so much, Emily. With my nails, my holiday nails, and
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your Beverly DiAngelo Christmas sweater and Christmas teacup which the darlings haven't seen yet but
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I have you will see it. I feel like we are poised to do
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some some work with this show that we're gonna do. It'll just be like
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a bonus ap. We'll get Jeff involved in some way with the holiday holiday
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hookup household Town or whatever holiday hook of household Town. I you know,
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I saw this cute. It was like a designer interior designer on TikTok somewhere,
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and it was like, you know, holiday decorating in your house is
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supposed to be tacky, Like you can have a chic decor, you can
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have do all the right things, but don't be afraid to overdo it,
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just like tack it out, get nuts, you know, go go quirky,
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go fun, go over the top. It's meant to be like that,
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and I really appreciated that. TikTok. I love an over that because
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in my mind, that's a house that's gonna have really good holiday candy and
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cookies. I don't know, I just equate that in my head. Also,
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I love all those decorations that do little tiny movements and cool things.
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I could look at that all day and then get it out of there come
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January. I don't need it, but right now that's all I need.
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WHOA, you really took a hard turn in January. Okay, we'll get
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it out. I'm not let's do Christmas all year long. Oh no,
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I am no, I'm with you. I reacted, you know, I
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overreacted, but respect to those that are, I'm fine. I'm just saying
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it's not soon to bring up. You know, let's not bring up taking
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stuff down. Let's enjoy putting it up. You know what I mean,
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Emily, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know yeah.
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But when it comes January first, we're going to get on here and
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we're going to be ripping you all the shreds. If you haven't taken your
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stuff down, there will be a time and a place for that. It's
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just not right now January fifth. Okay, I'm even going to give them
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there January. I see January fifth. Oh, okay, I thought you
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said first. I was like, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
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You're right. I probably did. But January fifth will become an atcha
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up here in Santa Clarita, know, God's country. It's so funny because
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at the party last night, when they're like, oh, yeah, where
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do you live? And I'm like, it's Santa Clarita. Have you heard
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of it? Because I now know that people in LA actually don't know where
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it is. But surprisingly, everyone I spoke with knew exactly where it was.
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To my point, when I said to Heather and Dubro, I live
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in Santa Clarita, She's like, where is Santa Clarita. I'm like,
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look, your cargo ship makes a stop here. Okay, you should know
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where it is. She had no clue. But anyway, Santa Clarita has
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the best holiday decorations. And I know, Emily you come on up here
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often. Have you been to Wakefield aka candy Canelane? I haven't. I've
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been to other candy canlanes, but not not yours. Okay, I feel
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like there's a candy canlane in every town here. We wow, sorry taking
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the air right out of my sand. No, I'm putting it in.
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I need to see them all. I have a Candy Knelane map of the
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United States and there's forty thousand and I've hit twenty two. So I have
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from our holiday house lived. We go on a tour across the country around
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the holidays and we scope out the best holiday We just it's not like your
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your face is lighting up like a Christmas tree. Yeah, we just talk
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about the decorations. We tour. We talked about the decorations, and we
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can talk about the storage and all the work going into it. We get
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it before and after. I will also add too that it's uh, now
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more than ever you can have a Candy cayleyan house with these inflatables. It's
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not like back in the day where it was all like wooden snoopy cutouts and
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it was like a lot of like big heavy pieces. Now you can have
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these inflatables. Yeah, but well fanned yawn alone and and if it's not
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good, there will be a well fan yon at that Kenny Kane lane up
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here. It's like you go down this one street, it's in I think
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it's canyon country because Santa Claruda has broken up and did a little Oh sure,
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so it's it's up there, you know. And then you go in
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and it's like two different call to sacks that split. You drive in,
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you go to the right, you got you know, called a sack.
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But you go to the left, you got a call a sack. So
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that entire two streets, the two blocks, every single house is done to
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the max. And I'm talking done up, Emily. I have a video
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I will from last year. I'll just send it to you. I think
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it's worth you coming up here. But you gotta go there. Turn around,
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Amy, turn around. The thing of it is is that like it
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people are, you know, they drive up there. You can drive through,
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but if you go early enough, you could park and walk around.
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But for the most part you're gonna end up just you know, in a
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line of cars to get in there, and then you drive through and you
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drive on out. So you got to know how to do it right.
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And I think we might go tonight, wowk like five o'clock. Oh yeah,
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of course it's already dark, and then we might be able to get
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a spot and walk around because the first time we went, we did it
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right, the same thing. We went early in December and we got there
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and there, I think there was a spot, but we just weren't.
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We didn't know if we could park or not. And Mattie's like, I
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want to get out and park and Bret's like, no, no, we
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can't. We got to drive through. And she was like, so the
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first block was all tears and then we're like, you got to lighten up
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because we're almost done with this journey. There was no fear of Sannah being
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upset with that. She wasn't excited. Okay, well that's good. That's
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for your parents. Style was different from my parents. Okay, threaten you
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like, Sana's gonna be pissed. Yes, and he was, yeah,
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he was, Yeah, it was. It's really cool and there's just so
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many different areas up here where people decorate. It's great. They really get
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into the holiday spirit and I love it much like your block with Halloween.
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Yes, but we don't decorate. We I mean, we like right very
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modestly in terms of other streets that might do it up for Halloween decoration wise,
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but yeah, people just show up for candy. Everyone gives out candy.
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Yeah, well anyway, okay, so what else do I want to
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say? Uh? Can you pause it? Except for just talk to everyone
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on video. I have to get my charger. I'm so sorry. Oh
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my god. No, I'll actually I will pot I'm going to resume now
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you're all charged up. Me too. I was actually just thinking. One
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of the things from last night was they had, you know, signature drinks
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at the Sunset Tower for Jeff's party, and one of which was like the
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Jeff Lewis Dirty Martini. So I ordered that and it was probably the best
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dirty martini I've ever had in my life. It had blue cheese olives in
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it, but it was a special kind of blue cheese olive, and the
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martini itself was just mixed so perfectly. And I just texted Doug Buten to
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find out if there's any way we can get the exact ingredients to that drink
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because I want to know if it was hold on. He said, Shane
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might have it. Oh okay, oh it involves adding water. I guess
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that's the secret. He said, oh interesting, Oh oh my god,
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Okay, okay, well this this is oh it was such a good martini.
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We had a pre party, well pre party, meaning Doug and me
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and Jamison at Doug's house before the party, and he put out like a
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couple of snacks for us, and thank god, because when we got to
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the party, you know, it's like it was very big and there were
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a lot of past or dirvs. But you just don't want to eat,
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you know what I mean, Like you're talking, you just don't want to
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like spend the time eating and so. And then when I wanted to eat,
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I couldn't find an nor dirt, but they were around a lot.
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But then I was just like, I was like so glad that I ate
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at Doug's because I would have been starving. And then I was so committed
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to this huge chocolate chip cookie. I grabbed one. I was like,
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I'm gonna eat this. I'm gonna fucking devour this cookie on the way home.
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I'm gonna live my best life. I'm gonna listen to Sea's Christmas album
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and I'm just gonna be like yes. And I held on to that cookie
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in every conversation for like an hour. I set it down at the end
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of the night to take a picture, and then I walked out and I
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forgot the cookie. Oh no, I'm so sorry. Thanks. Oh now,
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okay, I'm okay, okay. It was probably not good. Usually
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the cookies that look the best tastes not great. It looked okay, let's
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we got to get into news because we have to talk about Beverly Hills coming.
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We've got we've got a lot to discuss. Where's my serving dish?
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Drop? Oh lord, here it is, Oh my gosh, serving dish.
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Okay. By the way, Jessel was at a party and this is
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what happened to her. This is the page six apparently. Okay, so
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the headline is real Housewives of New York star Jessel Tank throws up all over
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shows ritzy premiere party and forced to leave early. And here's a little pond
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for you. Her stomach just couldn't tank. It is what the article says.
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She was at the show's ritzy premiere party Wednesday night. I don't what
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what party was this? Whose premiere party was she was? She at Kathy's
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party. Probably everybody was there except I just didn't know if any current New
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York cast was there. And I thought, then I saw that Kathy posted
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a picture of Jessel in it like a gold dress. Oh, she isn't
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a gold dress. But this backdrop doesn't say Direct TV. It says Bravo,
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the Real Housewives of New York City, grub Hub, New York Post
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sponsors. So I don't know what this must have been like a New York
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It was at the Rainbow Room, and apparently she looked very pale and wasn't
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smiling or interacting with a lot of people, the sources saying at one point
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she sat at a table by herself to catch her breath for a bit,
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and people pretty much left her alone. She ub maybe she just needed a
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bathtub. Immediately following Andy Cohen's speech, tank was escorted out with her belongings
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placed into bags, but she didn't make it into make it to the exit
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before becoming sick again. Oh my god. She was holding her stomach and
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had her hand over her mouth. Then she stopped and puked at the top
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of the stairs. Oh my god, it's her hand. Well, it
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gets pretty explicit. It seemed to be just liquid and was absorbed into the
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carpet pretty quickly. I love the detail, great reporting, excellent job.
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Poor Jessel. That was not in the Rolling Stone spread, but look,
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they'll probably do another spread on her like this. Lady is not afraid to
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puke on a red carpet. Jessel Tank Housewife of the Year. You know,
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yeah, she's working that press release right now. She probably wrote this
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article. Absolutely she did well. I hope she feels better. Thoughts and
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prayers, you know, thoughts and prayers. So that's like really the biggest
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news. Another thing is I live for Bravo on Instagram, like reposted a
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Vicky gun Wilson post that said, I have discussed it will not beholding by
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tug stay tuned for my thoughts soon. And it's a link to hashtag team
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Shannon and it's an article about Alexis Blino and John Jansen are quote unquote very
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happy in their relationship. So I know it's a little bit of a click
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baity thing there, but it just goes to show her support. I'm just
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fit to be tied over this news. Well, do trace a Megas have
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gigs coming up because they just had one of the Phoenix Well that but prior
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to Tamra siding with this relationship, right, I mean that was prior.
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It was prior. Yeah, So what's gonna happen because with the whole Tamra
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thing, I don't know where she's landing on this elect EXAs stuff. So
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we'll have to see that unfold because she's you know, obviously it's the traits
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of megas. They've got each other's backs or they need me to step in.
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That great, I could recommend it. Yeah, you're the understudy.
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That's weirdos. I just want everything to be back to normal. You know,
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I just wanted to be back to normal. And what is that normal?
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I don't know. Cookie, I want my cookie. Okay, that's
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enough, that's enough. Okay, we've got we've got stuff to talk about.
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Started to crash. Maybe daughters think flower good Akbama? So flowers?
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Right? Man? Name in the same talking myself for hours, say things
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you don't understair most ds it and then Atkins love me. Nice honey,
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good job, sweetie. Okay, Emily Beverly Hills, Beverly Beverly di'angelo Hills.
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I mean, now we're talking some casting I can get behind. That
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would be great. I mean, ex partner of al Pacino. Get Beverly
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di'angelo up in a dinner party from hell, sit her across from Sutton.
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Let's see what we have in play. Wow, Sutton is not holding back.
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You know, Kyle said it in this episode what I've kind of articulated
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over the past few years, which is that Sutton is not afraid to get
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in the game. And I apologize for all my baseball references. It's not
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like I'm a huge fan of it. But she will take a swing and
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she'll hit. But really, what it is it's a punt. She'll get
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in the game and she'll punt it. It doesn't go far, but at
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least she's hitting the ball. It's a little bit of a let's stick to
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baseball. Well, isn't it still punting? That's bunting? Oh, hunting
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would be kicking. Wait, and it's disrespectful because she owns put several She
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doesn't know what it is. She's like, yeah, punting, all right.
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Punting is football and bunting is when baseball when you gather a bunch of
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fabric together and you make bunting and you put it around a crib. Sure,
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or you hold a bat horizontally and just tap that, tap it,
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tap the ball. I love that. I'm trying to make a baseball reference
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and I can't even do it right. See, I'm out of my lead
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bottom. Okay, bunting, bunting, nothing, bunt that's horizontal. Started
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on bun cakes because we'll take another left turn, okay soon, bunts it,
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yes, but she plays it and then okay, yeah, okay,
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okay, but then takes a base. Garcella is the one that's like,
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let's just hit it, you know, she comes up around and then she
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kind of gets it going. But because Kyle's like, are you kidding me
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right now? Like what are you trying to say? I mean, she
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just won't say it. What's wrong? Is there something that you want to
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say? Cole? And then she just doesn't say it. The entire episode
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was that, going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
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But k that was what was driving me nuts this episode. Yeah,
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last episode is that Kyle is saying it. And then I feel like the
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way Kyle must feel like, you know, when you're the designated driver and
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everyone else around you is wasted, because I'm like, she fucking said it.
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Why are we now in the kitchen? Why we just had this elephant
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in the room conversation at the table right And I was like, so,
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what you're saying is my husband cheated on me and that's why you're thinking it's
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a makeup gift anyone, anyone, not you Fee, I know you're not
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going to say anything. And then they're in the kitchen and something's like I
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think. I mean, I was like, and then I thought, did
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they want to shoot this thing in twice? Did they think they didn't get
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it the first time? Right? Because what say in the in the kitchen,
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I just want to know if you're not telling me everything or something like
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that. It was Erica went in there too, right, Erica called her
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in first. Yeah, they argue about how well because Kyle's like, if
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you were a friend, you wouldn't have approached me that way with like this
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topic. And then something's like, well what about you the oh the room?
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Oh I was cald It's like okay, yeah, but now we're at
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the dinner table and you're just like calling out all this stuff. Then oh
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and Cynthia spoke. Cynthia was like, wow, they're something about behind single.
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Yeah that was great. That was I mean, I just wanted something.
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It was two weirds like Sonya and that commercial with lu Anne, like
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say something. I see you and I know you are entertaining. I just
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need to hear something they I mean Sonya probably said a million things, and
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she was muted, muted, volume down, not volume up. Same with
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Cynthia. I think she probably contributed a lot, but they didn't put volume
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down, volume down, cut. Yeah. And then then all of a
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sudden, things kind of change and Eric's like, I want to love a
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fair like you see in the movies. And then uh, Sutton's like,
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in her confessional said something so shit. She's like, Erica, you had
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a love affair k in the movies it's called Harold and Maud. But in
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reverse, Oh my god, that was tight. It was a tight insult.
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I mean, you gotta love that's that's that's a good low blow.
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It was a good low blow. And then also in Erica's interview, the
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producer was like, talking about I guess this is a little later when when
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she was talking about only being alive on stage and only truly present when I'm
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on stage when I'm performing, I'm only chili preasent, Oh yeah, or
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having sex, and what I thought then back to that moment she said,
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I was like, oh, probably because you're the kind of person that isn't
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really connecting during sex you are performing and the other person's like Okay, I'm
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getting a show right now. If you've ever been in that situation, that's
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fucking weird. But I have, and I like how that show went.
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I can't hear you real quick, so I can't. Are you serious?
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Are you? Oh you're joking? No? No, no, Now I
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think it was on my end. I thought you were doing a bit because
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you didn't want to know. Question. I like, E was dating No,
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I was dating a magician and he pulled a rabbit out of myj and
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I was like, unnecessary. I don't need the show. But I've totally
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been with someone that I'm like, I don't even know why I am here
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right now, like you are having you're doing a show for like hopefully it
27:37
wasn't being filmed, but it was like not enjoyable, and it was just
27:41
like a lot of like bold like arm moves, yeah, just like weird
27:49
faces. And I'm like, I would think that Erica might be sex like
27:56
she might be performing and that's why. And then I'm like, well,
27:59
then you're never gonna have a great love affair because you're always performing, even
28:02
in an intimate moment. Wow, I think she had to perform because she
28:06
didn't like it. You know, she was like, I gotta do this,
28:08
but it did make me feel bad for her, like and everybody for
28:11
that matter, who's never had like when she's really pining for a love affair
28:17
she sees in the movies and you're like, you never had that, like
28:21
even just as a you know, in high school or in college or you
28:23
know what I mean, when when that's when that happens typically when you're just
28:27
so gaga about somebody, And I thought, well, that is really sad
28:30
that she hasn't had that, like you know, yeah, I also wonder
28:36
if she's had it. But then like it's been so long ago that she
28:40
discounts it, you know what I mean, like or thinks like it must
28:44
not have been anything because it's so long ago and it never happened again,
28:47
or something like that, right right, or like you can't count what happened
28:51
in high school or in college where I do, because it's the same feeling.
28:55
You have those feelings, yeah, yeah, yeah, same hormonal secretions
29:00
already. I want a hormonally secreted affair. Sudden, what are you talking
29:07
about? You've got hormonal secretions in you're asma gass? What are you talking
29:11
about? Just be honest, Ah can't. Okay, I don't want to
29:19
make a joke of this, but this was wild. This We'll be backtracking
29:23
and pick up where we left off, but I just want to talk about
29:26
this small esophageal situation where she can't swallow food and she said that she's gone.
29:36
She's going on four days where she can't even swallow her own saliva,
29:40
and it's a real thing. But this is, this is scary, and
29:45
this concerns me because this could this is terrifying to me. I don't know
29:49
what she's going through, but it is something like there are things, there
29:57
are syndromes or diseases or what have you, where you lose control and of
30:03
being able to swallow. And I'm really quite frankly horrified and concerned and pretty
30:11
intensely worried about what her situation is. Okay, I'll register that I'm I'm
30:18
less concerned because I am full. I think Sutton's got the resources and it's
30:25
probably really on top of it. Yeah. No, you're right, you're
30:29
right, You're right. The fact that we have never heard of it,
30:33
Jev that night was odd to me. Well, it sounds horrific. I
30:37
mean, if you can't swallow your spinning, So you're what do you You're
30:42
going to tell people on camera like this horrific situation that you have that's very
30:49
personal. I don't think it's that personal. We've heard a lot of things
30:53
about Sutton. I don't from Sutton. I Also, here's the other thing.
30:57
It was just like, I'm not I guess I just don't know about
31:02
it. But having Anne Marie there to be like, what now, I'm
31:04
a medical professional, never heard of this. That not to say that that
31:10
means it doesn't exist. I'm just saying like it was a convenient time for
31:15
setting to bring that up when we have why just a few weeks ago we
31:19
had her bringing up the Ballet Foundation out of nowhere. She seems to bring
31:26
up some things that maybe aren't as extreme as you might think they are in
31:32
the moment to deflect well, I think that's a fair point. The connection
31:37
is that she's not eating, because Kyle's saying, you know, you don't
31:41
eat, So her reasoning is that sometimes she can't eat literally physically, because
31:48
she can't even swallow her own saliva. Now, when she's talking to Kyle
31:52
about her hardships of having to go back in we'll have to deal with her
31:59
ex husband about raising the child support and how that's going to be challenging.
32:05
What I'm thinking now is that's not your problem. Your problem is you can't
32:10
swallow. That's what you should be talking about, Like this is a big
32:15
problem. Okay, And I don't so I don't know. I'm also I
32:22
don't have a hard time with Sutton in terms of all of a sudden these
32:24
health issues, this health issue when I believe me, well, it's hard
32:35
to I don't know. It just feels very me. I mean, I
32:45
know this is going to come back to bite me, but Munchausend I mean,
32:52
own it much Chausen believe no, I it's we don't even need Look,
33:02
you don't need to say it, okay, okay, every love,
33:07
Yes, my love. You don't need to say it. Everybody's thinking it.
33:12
Well, I think you know who I'm talking about when I say Amy
33:15
my love. We've seen a little of that before on the show. But
33:20
you lost her, I know, but hers was real. She has lime
33:22
disease. Oh yeah, well there was something else happening. It just felt
33:25
like once prior to or after that, though, there was like, remember
33:30
she had all these illnesses, and then it was like, but it wasn't
33:36
Limee's disease. After a certain point, I thought, no, it is
33:38
lime disease. She figured it out. She wrote a book called Believe Me.
33:42
That's why I keep saying that I know, I know, but I
33:45
thought that there was something else. Maybe I'm I'm I think I might buy
33:50
disease since it's autoimmune, right, and it can spur on all kinds of
33:55
issues in your body. So they were conflating a different wife and I don't
33:59
know who it is. Oh, okay, sure it's Carlton. I'm just
34:05
kidding. It's always Carlton. Yeah, but this saliva thing, Okay,
34:13
Kyle's starting to get bold and everyone and dry. It's getting bold about confronting
34:17
Sutton because Sutton is getting in the game and she's attacking other you know,
34:22
Kyle at this point about her marriage but not saying too much. But she's
34:27
going there with her. So now they're fighting back and they're they're gonna bring
34:30
up here's the other here's my other thing about this. If I had a
34:34
disease where I at any moment would have to start spitting instead of swallowing.
34:39
The last thing I would do is be drinking, because people totally with no
34:45
problems die drinking because they sleep on their back and can't you know they you
34:52
know, like you just like pass out. And so if I had a
34:57
disease where my asside ius was so small that I had to be monitoring it
35:01
constantly, the last thing I'd want to do is take myself totally out of
35:07
that. That's just me with whatever Sutton's disease is. That's just me Sutton's
35:14
disease. Like we've now given her a disease. We've I mean, the
35:19
fuck I don't know because it is peculiar. And yeah, then she's and
35:24
Kyle's like, you're taking medication for your foot. I mean, I get
35:30
being on a lot of medications. I guess what I'm saying is like,
35:35
I don't understand what Sutton is calling this specific thing and when you and when
35:42
you put it with the rest of her lifestyle, it doesn't make sense.
35:45
It seems like a very dire condition and I don't understand it with the rest
35:50
of her lifestyle. Agree And so we definitely can agree on that and maybe
35:53
more to come. As we saw from next week, Anne Marie, who
35:58
basically is this She's like, this is my jam, this is my wheelhouse.
36:05
She says that she is a an esthetician, a nurse, and yeah,
36:12
nurse and nursesthetist. I always say that wrong, but and she knows
36:16
airway anatomy. So this is what's interesting because next week she's going to be
36:22
questioning Sutton about this. Yeah good, I have questions. Yeah, so
36:29
I think that's good. I think it's good. So anyway concerning okay,
36:32
let's get back to this freaking dinner, because this is when uh so they're
36:38
in the oh wait, before they even go into the kitchen. How about
36:44
a lot that happens before they end up in the kitchen for the third why
36:47
what are you not telling us? Kyle? Corractation? Right so, after
36:53
they kind of transition out of the first I'm sorry, second, what's going
37:00
on in your life? Kyle? What are you hiding? Conversation? They
37:04
kind of segue out of that, and then Denise is like completely on.
37:08
I don't know what's up with her. We all don't know. But she
37:12
was like, er why did you scream me that way? When we met?
37:17
You were lonely, but then you changed. And then Erica's like,
37:22
apparently she's a little stone. So she was like, I don't know what
37:24
you're talking about, and she's like, really don't. She's like, can
37:29
you give me an example? Watch the show that's your example. So and
37:36
then she was like, oh, I mean to make it real clear,
37:39
and a guy even more confusing make and more clear. It just went blurry.
37:47
It just was a blur, like the screen was just blur, like
37:51
they'd put vaciline on it. Her face has turned into blur? How is
37:54
that possible? It was like slow, oh uh oh. The best was
38:02
Erica's like, okay, Denise, I apologize to you. And then I
38:06
don't know if they edited it this way, but she goes, thank you,
38:08
You're welcome. She welcomed herself, I know. And then the chef
38:16
going Denise Richards is fuck up. They need this crew catering every event,
38:25
all right? Is it just me? I'm gonna take I'm gonna take a
38:29
different angle here and Emily it'll probably piss you off. But I'm a little
38:35
team Denise on this because I felt like they, even though she was out
38:37
of her mind, I did feel like they were gaslighting her about how she
38:43
was treated last year. Erica did change. She was nice to her at
38:49
first, and then she wasn't obviously because of what happened at the dinner with
38:54
the kids and all that stuff. But she became very team Na. And
39:00
since Rinna and Denise had an issue, I'm sorry, not y'a last year,
39:05
but a couple of years ago whenever that was when Denise and Renna had
39:08
an issue. Erica is you know Renna's rider die, So obviously she's gonna
39:14
put up a boundary between she and Denise. So she wasn't the same as
39:17
she was when she first started the show. So for Erica to be like,
39:22
what are you talking about? What are you talking about? It's obvious,
39:24
Like we all saw on the show that you guys, Denise was against
39:29
everyone, and everyone was against Denise. So why don't you just say,
39:35
yeah, I was team Renna. Also, you didn't want to do anything
39:38
for the show. You know that there was a lot she could have said,
39:43
but she didn't. Well, despite me wearing my sweater upside down,
39:47
Oh Misha, you are wearing an upside Are you wearing an upside down?
39:57
I'm not team Denise. You're doing I uh, that was the best I
40:05
know what you're doing. She has a point she tried to make look like
40:09
an idiot, and she did already look like an idiot. But no,
40:14
a thousand percent, I don't agree with you on any of this. I
40:16
mean, Dereite was very nice, but I think I don't know, okay,
40:24
in that moment, I think Durrey thought the attention wasn't on them,
40:30
and I think she just under her breath tried to make it not almost like
40:34
it was a hot mic moment. And if it was not Denise, if
40:39
it was anyone else, even someone that Dared had a problem with, they
40:44
would have been like, oh shit like and then just left the room real
40:47
quick and come back in m Denise made it a moment like that wasn't dere
40:54
Dereit was so chill about it. And if she would now if deurit would
40:59
have h taking Denise out of the room, there would have been a camera
41:04
that followed. Then it would have been a bigger thing. I think they
41:07
would have been like, oh, these two are going to the side.
41:08
Like I think she tried to be subtle about it, and then it just
41:12
blew up because of Denise and at the table with Erica. I'm sorry,
41:19
but that's what the reunion is for and you've also had another moment at Garcel's
41:23
party, and a lot has happened since you've been on the show. Yeah,
41:29
and so much worse and crazier shit happened when you were on this show,
41:32
Like that's the moment you're I would have no idea what she was talking
41:37
about as Erica, And if I'm Denise, I would think getting on the
41:44
show again is probably pretty great, and I want to be relevant, and
41:49
so maybe I would be provoking people. Erica, well, yeah, just
41:58
like anybody. I mean, she was provoking to me. What she did
42:01
to Deurey was provocative because it was not a normal response to something like that.
42:07
And I thought Derry was being pretty cool with her. She was,
42:09
she was being nice. At one point. I thought she does seem like
42:13
she's being, uh, patronizing, and I think Denise was picking up on
42:19
that, and that's why she was like, don't don't I know what you're
42:21
doing. You're trying to be patronized. Is also that is also direct?
42:25
That's true, That's true. I mean she does that to everyone, and
42:32
I couldn't the fact that she kind of had her back on that, well
42:37
her front, because it was on upside down, But the fact that she
42:42
had her like that, I was actually really surprised because I would think that
42:45
Derry would be like, oh, you know, like full volume about something
42:51
like that. Oh, I didn't notice. That is such an interesting like
42:53
I could see her being like real shitty about it in an interesting way to
43:01
be shitfaced. How about when they're talking to that. I think it was
43:10
the chef, I'm not sure, but then Denise is like, are you
43:14
single or married? Poor bastard. I was like, whoa, wow that
43:19
I had to rewind that because I thought that's just too far. Well,
43:23
she is so goosey. Yes, so I don't I didn't think. I
43:30
honestly thought that given everybody on that show, any one of them, Denise
43:37
was serving herself on a platter, and any one of them could have jumped
43:42
on it, and no one, I think, really did. You're welcome,
43:46
thank you, you're welcome. Thank you, you're welcome, thank you,
43:52
you're welcome. Denise says, Oh, she calls Erica a dumb fuck.
43:59
She's like, how does she not know? She's dumb fuck? She?
44:05
And then also she has this cold she can't hear her her voice modulation.
44:10
When Dari was like, so, what is it like being back on
44:16
the show, Like, so, Denise, so great to have you back
44:27
to the show, the like late night music starts, but even Dury felt
44:35
uncomfortable asking it was just such a really very yeah cranking in action. Well,
44:42
now that you mentioned it, Era, why did you dream me that
44:46
way? She's like, he has been so nice, you were lovely at
44:57
first, and then yeah, I think, look, I audio is having
45:07
They're like, oh God, turn her up, turn her down, turn
45:10
her down, turn her up, turn herround. Oh, turn her off,
45:14
turn her off. Slow mow it. Oh god, Audio, hell
45:17
of a time that day. I think that Denise is not comfortable getting back
45:22
in this environment. I think she has to. I think too, I
45:27
think she wants to get paid, and so I think we're seeing medicates and
45:31
then shows up. Although Brandy I saw tweeted, I guess between those two
45:37
episodes, Uh, that didn't There's no way Denise was doing pills so well
45:45
Nike will oh, that's a lot of niquill co dean cough syrup, the
45:52
good stuff that pharmacies don't care anymore because Denise Richards is robbing them allegedly.
46:02
You know, I mean, I don't. Yeah, I don't know.
46:05
It was something we just don't know what. We just don't know. And
46:07
we know she has a cold, so she probably took something for her cold
46:14
and her anxiety. Yes, because that's you know, you're going to get
46:19
into a room with a bunch of were wolves of Beverly Hills and also just
46:23
to diminish your impulse control. Like I think that's really what it is like
46:29
if you're going to be on, if you are in a sense, I
46:32
just got the feeling like I think she's auditioning. I think that's what this
46:37
episode is. You know, she's auditioning to get back on, and she's
46:43
you know, maybe not that comfortable with it, so she's got to kind
46:45
of reduce her impulse control and she's going for it. That's the feeling I
46:50
got. And if she was in her right mind, I don't think she
46:53
would have leaned in so hard. She might have said Eric, I'm still
46:57
really upset about this ex Zach situation. I never felt like it was addressed,
47:01
and it still burns me up, like she would have put words to
47:06
it, you know what. It burns me up because she's the dumb fuck.
47:13
How is she not? Oh? Dogs are coming from the neighborhood storm
47:22
get down from their bamby Haulla below stop. Oh god, so funny.
47:30
What a weird, just bizarro scene. And to know that they've all imbibed
47:36
or been taking in some THHC well some of them. Others were like one
47:42
milligram please. Oh by the way, did you see Crystal's big scene?
47:49
And I hang on now this episode. Yeah, I'll refresh your memory.
47:52
Okay, so she said, and real quick, real quick, when you
47:57
refresh my memory, start with I dident who was Crystal? Oh Crystal,
48:00
she's a housewife on Beverly Hills, okay. And her big scene is when
48:06
she said next time on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hill. Did you see
48:09
it? It was huge? I was like, whoa, this storyline is
48:14
fucking crazy. I did not expect that from Crystal. I think, I
48:19
yeah, no, I'm sure, I'm sure I saw it. I'm sure
48:22
I saw Oh yeah, it's huge. It's gonna be like the next arc
48:25
that maybe I looked down. Was that what Denise was reacting to when she
48:30
looked at the wall and was like, wow, she's just illucinating at Kyle's
48:37
house. She must have been her hearing Crystal do that, and I just
48:40
didn't see. Yeah, I think that was a big reaction. It was
48:44
something huge. It was oh boy, all right. So now we go
48:52
into the other room because Denise wants to talk to Kyle. But then she
48:58
starts to like walk through the hallway. I think I speak Denise because I
49:02
knew what she was talking about. She's like and then this, and she
49:07
like points and Kyle's like, what the fuck is she talking about? She
49:10
wanted to be alone with Kyle. But then she already sees garcel sitting in
49:15
the bar and it's like a window, like that carved out window to the
49:19
bar, and then this she's just flying high and she's seeing like she's seeing
49:24
something that anyway, So I think that she was just thinking it was funny
49:30
to see that room and Garcela in there and she couldn't get privacy. But
49:35
they never really ended up saying much. There's fourteen hundred rooms in that house,
49:38
privacy was available. We're not allowed to go in. We're going to
49:43
that side room with the with the books. We're going to the bar,
49:46
We're going to the dining room in the kitchen. That's it. We're not
49:50
going to fucking fast? Did Kyle throw that phone when Erica walked in the
49:54
room, she was mid text and she like blacked it through it so fast?
50:04
Wait, what point was this? So this was after everything Kyle had
50:07
left the room? Gosh is it? It's right before they go to the
50:12
kitchen. Kyle is in one of the game rooms or whatever, and Erica
50:17
comes in and sits next to her. I think it's oh right, yeah,
50:22
or before the kitchen because she was like, everybody leave, okay,
50:27
after everybody was leaving, okay, I don't know. At some point okay,
50:34
in this night, it's either aft in between the fifteenth time Sudden says,
50:39
we think something's going on and before Crystal's big moment. Kyle is in
50:45
got It the side room and she's texting someone alone, and then Erica walks
50:51
in, and boy does she throw that phone fast shew. She like chucks
50:55
it to the side. She like blacks it out and chucks it to the
50:59
side. Are you trying to say I was texting with Morgan? Is that
51:02
what you're saying? Just saying I'd I would never garcel. Well, yes,
51:10
Emily's saying that she's texting Morgan. That's where Emory's like saying, what
51:15
texting you who? I don't think there's anything wrong with your marriage? Or
51:22
I don't even know who Morgan is. I don't pay attention to the world.
51:27
I don't even know who Denise is. I don't know I don't know
51:29
anything. Everything's great, I want an audience. Well, I have theories.
51:37
It was just and I think it was well placed in terms of knowing
51:42
what Kyle's up to and how what she was dealing with. I thought I
51:45
was like, Okay, they could have cut that, but they kept that
51:49
in even if it was like to her kid, it just looked really hilarious.
51:52
Suce yes, sausin Tustin. Okay, So then we have dread telling
52:04
Kyle what Sutton said at the dinner table, which was when they said where's
52:07
Kyle and she said and then bah Zum literally could not be less denial.
52:22
Yeah, no, right, yeah, you're saying it. Huhe your emergency
52:29
broadcast system is going to conduct a test now, babe, please continue.
52:35
I will just I just now that we took that in for a moment,
52:38
my brain was trying to make sure I understood what you were saying. And
52:42
you know what, I reserve the right to think clearly when I need another
52:46
side. Didn't say it right now for me, Amy just fully trying to
52:52
say. So that's when things. That's when Kyle's like, are you kidding
52:59
me? What am I a dihal about? I don't no. So then
53:04
they go into the whole in then esophagus, and Sutton says, I'm sick
53:07
of fighting with you. You've already lost two sisters. Do you want to
53:13
lose a third? WHOA wow? So, like, I don't think that,
53:20
Sutton. I mean, God bless Sutton, but I don't think you
53:22
rank even remotely close to a sister to Kyle. So to even like put
53:28
yourself up there is gross. That was offensive to me. I know I
53:31
was there, sister, But then to like then loop it into like all
53:36
of her family drama. I was like, how dare you sudden? I
53:40
was? I was offended? Yeah, I know that was very weird.
53:44
I'm like, is this what they say in the South? Like, I
53:46
don't know. I was trying to figure. I was trying to like rationalize
53:49
why she would say that. But Erica calling out in her interview about like
53:58
Sutton liking the social like the social structure and the social class of it all
54:02
was right on the money, and her loyalty to Kathy and being accepted in
54:07
that level makes a lot of sense. And now we said it. I
54:10
was glad that somebody said that. I thought that was perfect. Who said
54:15
that, Sutton Erica, Oh, Erica said it. Yes, didn't say
54:17
it. Sudden said about herself, and then she welcomed and thanked and welcomed
54:22
herself. Well, I think it was interesting for Kyle to be like,
54:27
go fuck yourself, and she was going to walk out, but then she
54:29
stayed and she was like, you've had your own situations with Kathy, and
54:31
Sudden's like, ah to evera. Well, Kathy, I'm like, please
54:40
tell everybody what Kathy did. And then we find out that she didn't like
54:45
that Sutton didn't stick up for her in the press and call, and then
54:49
that she and she called her. Kathy called her and yelled at her prior
54:52
to the reunion, Yes, prior to the reunion, And so she says
54:57
she saw exactly what Kyle has experience. It's firsthand and felt it. And
55:01
I thought that was interesting, which is why Sutton was very quiet and didn't
55:05
go over to Kyle on the couch because she was scared of Kathy. Is
55:07
what we were piecing together from this or just vocalize a defense of Kyle in
55:13
that moment. Okay, I wanted you to get out of your seat and
55:15
come well right, but I think a distant second would have been Kathy.
55:22
I don't see it that way, but sudden it's just like hmmm, yeah,
55:25
She's like, yeah, when is the next Christmas party sponsored by direct
55:31
TV? I want to go there with everybody except Amy and Emily from Trauma
55:37
Darling. I did think it was really sweet that after they all went home,
55:44
Kyle's housekeepers were very empathetic towards her and they were like, we don't
55:49
like seeing you like this. This was not fun for us. And she
55:52
was like, thank you, this is my life. I've got to go
55:54
upstairs and Dex Morgan like, where's that nice girl Morgan that you've been hanging
56:00
out with? Invite her over? Where she is She's still in the golf
56:05
bag in Moe's office. Go bag? Oh wow? Yeah. But then
56:14
we got I mean, after all that, seeing Kim back in the picture
56:20
was pretty cool. Oh my gosh, great, you know, she seems
56:24
so good. And then I saw those pictures on the wall, and I
56:27
did get a little concerned and I'm not gonna lie, those pictures on the
56:30
wall freaked me out a little bit, a little bit. I think it's
56:32
great, but if I'll take it like I don't know her good. Yeah,
56:38
art therapy is and it's I need to know more about Kim's lockdown situation,
56:45
the pandemic for her, because that sounded interesting because Kyle was like,
56:50
read between the lines, folks, and I'm like, I am trying,
56:53
Sutton, I need Denise, I need details. They because I was like,
56:58
brought it up. That's not the first time they brought up I had
57:00
a hard time during COVID and that she didn't leave the house and I'm just
57:05
guessing she was just no, I didn't even want to say it whatever,
57:08
It's just well, yeah, we had a hard time, but I'm glad
57:10
that she's doing well. But the art therapy of it all looked impressive.
57:16
And I think that there are enough people around Kim that if she wants to
57:22
draw murals all day that you know, people can I'm saying like, I'm
57:30
sure Kathy has the resources to be like, hey, I'll get your grocery.
57:32
You know what I mean, Like, here's some money. So I
57:36
think as long as Kim isn't using, everyone's happy. I think it's beautiful.
57:40
Like one of the Kim's journey is so intense, and I have a
57:45
real soft spot for her, you know, I think we all do.
57:49
Yeah, because she seems the most emotionally damaged from their upbringing and from her
57:53
life and she's been through so much. Yeah. That and that's why it
57:59
always canns me, Like when I I do agree with the art therapy,
58:02
you know, but anything in excess is always scary to me. You know,
58:07
you can have like two little chicks that are adorable, but that you
58:09
give you know, put one hundred chicks in one room and it's scary.
58:14
You know. So when you see these murals and you're like, oh my
58:17
god, like you're doing your entire house like this, Like this is getting
58:21
like gray gardens to me. I mean anyway, at addictive behaviors that if
58:25
you're if you're an attict, you're an addict. So I mean I think,
58:31
is it hurting anybody? Okay, is it hurt or you know,
58:35
is it hurt chickens. It's probably best that regardless of my own judgment.
58:42
It's she should be doing stuff like this and the place that she's in by
58:45
saying like life is so short, and you know, I want you and
58:47
Kathy to make up, you know, is is really amazing. And I'll
58:53
never forget her kneeling beside that trash can when she was beginning her sober journy
59:00
when they were on that trip. Remember when she kneeled beside that trashcan to
59:02
like center herself. I'm like, that is next level humility at its finest.
59:09
Somebody that has really hit rock bottom, who's not afraid to get dirty
59:15
with getting their mind and their health back to where it needs to be.
59:19
And I really respect her journey. So for her to be saying these things
59:23
to Kyle about, you know, repairing her relationship with Kathy, you know,
59:28
it says a lot. I think Kim is the one who's always good
59:31
with well, she's always good with Kathy. She never really has an out,
59:36
has outs with Kathy, but she and Kyle have more outs. But
59:39
Kim always seems like the one that's usually okay with both of them. It's
59:45
the Kyle and Kathy has a lot of grace for Kim. Yes that she
59:50
doesn't have for Kyle. True, And I think it's a control thing because
59:52
I think at the end of the day, Kathy knows she can control Kim,
59:55
Yeah, and Kim allows her to control her, yeah, but Kyle
1:00:00
doesn't. Yeah, That's why their relationship is okay. And I think Kim,
1:00:04
sorry, Kathy takes care of Kim in many ways, right, and
1:00:09
probably Kyle does too. But also then Kyle will call him out on her
1:00:15
shit, which I do. I just don't think that Kim has a lot
1:00:19
of that in her life, no, because Kyle has boundaries and she's you
1:00:23
know, and she's got at this point, she has nothing to lose but
1:00:28
to discover her new self at this point in her life create boundaries regardless of
1:00:34
what the expense of that is. And the expense is the relationship with some
1:00:38
of her family members. And we find out that she has not met Paris's
1:00:43
baby, right, because that's difficult. Yes, And now Kim and Kyle
1:00:49
in a good place because Kyle's going through stuff with Mo. Well, that
1:00:53
goes back to the heart of it and maybe the darlings know, I mean,
1:00:58
did all of this shit it with Kathy really get going when most like
1:01:04
left absolutely Okay? I didn't know if there was like old stuff from like
1:01:08
probably wild, but that was the tipping point when mauriceo and allegedly okay,
1:01:16
but from my understandings, he took a bunch of clients from Hilton's you know,
1:01:22
real estate business, and then started his own. And I bet that
1:01:24
was the icing on the cake. I bet there's been a jealousy and something
1:01:30
going on with Kyle as she's become, as she's kind of risen as a
1:01:34
celebrity, because although Kathy has a lot of control in La, Kyle still
1:01:40
has that thing that Kathy didn't have, which is probably why Kathy joined the
1:01:44
Housewives honestly to be Kyle at that game. Damn well, that's pretty that's
1:01:53
an interesting perspective. I just didn't think about it like that. I never
1:01:57
knew why she would join a show that will inevitably tear your life to shreds,
1:02:02
which it did. Yeah, and I don't think Kathy is more cognizant
1:02:06
of that. I don't think Kathy's like I well, I mean according to
1:02:09
Lisa, maybe she is, but to Renna, but like I think like
1:02:15
Kathy definitely also realized she didn't need the show anyway. And left. I
1:02:21
don't think she was fired by any stretch, do you. Yeah, yeah,
1:02:27
So I think like Kathy got in the water, didn't need the water,
1:02:31
and was also like, go fuck yourself. Kyle well got the water
1:02:36
was on fire. She got burned by the water, right, right,
1:02:38
right. And I think Kyle said something at some point, maybe it was
1:02:43
on this hike, about how she had the best of intentions with Kathy in
1:02:49
the sense of bringing her on the show, and I keep thinking her into
1:02:52
the group, right, And you know what, I I can't believe Kyle
1:02:59
didn't think more about it. She should know better that it will destroy relationships.
1:03:05
You know. That's what's so shocking to me is that they would all
1:03:09
agree to that. It's like bye bye, Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants,
1:03:15
because you're not going to come back from this. Yeah. I think that
1:03:17
they were in such a good place. I think that Kyle was top like
1:03:23
dog on that show. I think she felt like Kathy's top dog in Beverly
1:03:29
Hills. This makes sense. I'm not going to stand in front of this
1:03:32
train because I know the producers are going to have Kathy on whether I want
1:03:37
it or not. And frankly, if I don't want it. It's a
1:03:38
guarantee she's going to be on. So I am going to fully embrace this.
1:03:43
And We're in a great place. So if not, now, when
1:03:46
let's do it. You know, I can see Kyle's thinking. And again
1:03:51
at the end of the day, as we know in Jersey, name the
1:03:54
family member that you don't want on here because we are going to hire them.
1:03:58
Like that's what would have happened, you know, Like I think that
1:04:00
they would have done what they needed to do to get Kathy on. Yeah,
1:04:02
that's a good point. Oh my god, it's their family relationships are
1:04:09
just absolutely so fascinating and I really love all of them like I you know,
1:04:12
and we all want them to just get along. And I'm happy to
1:04:15
know that in real time the sisters are back together, and it really is
1:04:19
at the cost of Kyle's marriage being on the rocks, you know, that
1:04:23
they've come back together, which speaks volumes by the way. Yeah, and
1:04:28
on paper, it may be Kathy's believing this herself, that Kathy's so sad
1:04:33
about Mauricio and Kyle's marriage ending because of her of her nieces, and that's
1:04:42
that part's probably true. But then there's something deep in Kathy, some door
1:04:45
got unlocked that had been locked and she isn't even aware of it. But
1:04:50
now she's opened to Kyle in a way that she probably hasn't been in twenty
1:04:54
five years. Well, at her direct TV party, which we'll be talking
1:04:59
about for the next year, she did say something along the lines of,
1:05:04
oh, I don't think that Kyle would have gone to this length if she
1:05:09
didn't mean to make this decision in her life, meaning like there's no hope
1:05:14
that she's ever going to go get back with Mauricio. Like it's overdone,
1:05:16
done done. You know that was in the news. That was the headliner
1:05:20
somewhere, you know, in the blog. Also, how interesting that basically,
1:05:26
Kyle, I'm now realizing this went live back right prior to that July
1:05:32
third Face Reality sixteen thing was just date hour forty eight hours maybe twenty four
1:05:40
hours that they had the three sisters went live on Kathy's Instagram with Morgan.
1:05:46
Yeah, Kathy was remember, and Kathy was the one that was like we
1:05:49
talked about it too, Like Kathy was the one that was like big announcement
1:05:55
coming, like big secret, we have a big secret. That was wild.
1:06:00
Ah, Kyle freaked out she's liked Kim. That was crazy. We
1:06:03
have well we have a secret, but it was like it was like Kyle
1:06:10
handing over control back to Kathy in a weird way too. Mmmmm, yes,
1:06:15
I mean I think in many ways like a compromise. You know,
1:06:17
she's going to compromise with Kathy here and there. And because we all know
1:06:23
everyone listening, Kathy doesn't know what the hell she's doing with technology and Instagram
1:06:28
live like, it was a wonder that, like she'd even turned the phone
1:06:31
on. So the fact that Kyle was sitting there letting Kathy just free form
1:06:36
on the gram like was pretty remarkable, and she trusted her and let her
1:06:41
say what she wanted to say. It was amazing. So there's Morgan and
1:06:45
there was Morgan. I remember turning on my turning on my Instagram and being
1:06:49
like, Kathy Hilton is live and then watching most of it and then she'd
1:06:55
be like, what is a badge? What are these badges that people are
1:06:59
home? Anyway, we've got to talk about the fact that Erica and Mikey
1:07:03
were at Roccos, which is where we were the night that we got thrust
1:07:10
off of the doormat to Jackson's in Studio City. However, it's the same
1:07:15
chain, it's just a different location. It looks exactly the same in Studio
1:07:17
City. What Rocos in West Hollywood is where they were. Deanna has a
1:07:24
great story about the time that she was at Rocos in West Hollywood that she
1:07:28
will have to tell because it is sin. She was very drunk and lost
1:07:31
purse. Turns out it was stolen, and I'll let her take it from
1:07:35
there. We'll have her tell it tomorrow when we do the Southern charm Weecat.
1:07:41
I'll have her begin with that wild so well, we already talked about
1:07:45
that, and she's they're talking about the residency in Las Vegas, so that's
1:07:48
going to happen. Durt and Piquet Durret's updu Can we talk about Durret's updue
1:07:56
in the confessional all the looks that Read is doing, she should wear a
1:08:01
sweater upside down. It would make more sense because the braids on the s
1:08:09
splet to frame her face, all right, And that updo is something else
1:08:13
like that is so wild? It's I yeah, it's it's an updo.
1:08:19
I guess it's four different pieces of hair that are clipped I mean, are
1:08:26
they even like sometimes it looks like it's about to fall off. I don't
1:08:29
know what is. It's pretty amazing. Every look who created who created each
1:08:34
of her looks? The Chanel thing, I know, we've talked about that.
1:08:38
I'm still not used to it. It looks like it's taking her life,
1:08:43
it's taking her soul, like it's that but that's the new one with
1:08:47
the braids framing her face and she's in the like in Living Color Blazer.
1:08:54
I was like, I was by myself and it made an audible sound.
1:08:59
Oh you know it. You know it, like there are every once in
1:09:04
a blue moon, like probably about maybe three times a year, there's going
1:09:08
to be a confessional that makes you audibly gasp yeah, and then you kind
1:09:14
of get used to it. But I'm not m So she's like, I've
1:09:21
created a classroom. They love their teachers, and p K is like,
1:09:28
I want those kids to experience school. Those the best selife. I'm like,
1:09:33
well, sometimes it's the worst days of somebody's life. So, but
1:09:38
I understand what he's saying. But this is a perfect example of when she
1:09:42
says in her confessional, you know he's not here. She lived a moment
1:09:46
during that burglary where her kids' lives were in danger, and that will never
1:09:51
leave her head and he just can't understand that. So the connection to homeschooling
1:09:58
based on the connection to Peta totally makes sense. I mean, I get
1:10:01
it, and I mean I get both sides, but she's got to do
1:10:06
what they have to do. The kids aren't aware at this point about the
1:10:12
burglary because they were never told, which is amazing. So it's as far
1:10:17
as I know, they still don't know. There is something to be said,
1:10:23
like as we are talking right now, because I was like, I
1:10:26
don't agree with PK very often, but I found myself leaning a little bit
1:10:30
towards PK last night. But there is something to be said to when you're
1:10:36
on a reality show, not maybe like your kids don't have to know,
1:10:43
like if they're in a public school, they're trying to protect them from some
1:10:46
information like that. I don't know everybody else's kids go to school. I'm
1:10:51
in private, public whatever. I don't know. I don't know. I
1:10:55
don't know. I don't have kids, So it's it's a tough. I
1:10:59
see both sides, you know, I mean, I get it, I
1:11:00
get it. And with what she has to struggle with, it's really intense.
1:11:04
It's such like an individual choice. And for me personally, I would
1:11:12
want my kids to be socializing with other kids. And I know when you're
1:11:17
homeschooled there's a lot of there's structures and opportunities for that. But I just
1:11:24
think, like if it were me, I would want p K or my
1:11:30
husband to be our partner to be asking the same things or saying the same
1:11:32
things that p K was saying, only because I would want to make sure
1:11:36
that I wasn't making my fear the only option for the kids. Yeah,
1:11:42
your decisions, like yeah, right, so that would not I thought,
1:11:45
clearly the best interest of the kids, although she does say that, but
1:11:49
you know, she's also I mean, dealing with a lot, So yeah,
1:11:55
is it in the best interest of you? Or is it the best
1:11:57
interest of your kids? You know? And but you know, homeschooling really
1:12:00
is different these days in that like I didn't know much about it, but
1:12:04
I know someone there's a girl in my daughter's dance class who's homeschooled, and
1:12:10
she goes to like the homeschool thing, like a group, I don't know
1:12:15
what you call it, Like the homeschool school like with other homeschool kids,
1:12:20
like twice a week. So I'm like, well, it's not totally you're
1:12:25
not home all the time. You're going and you're socializing with other kids that
1:12:28
are homeschooled, so they have their own like network or dare I say cult?
1:12:32
You know, I'm kidding, but you know there, it's definitely changed,
1:12:39
you know. Yeah, I don't know. This is why, Darling,
1:12:43
So this is why I ask you to have the kids so you can
1:12:45
make these decisions for me. Such a good episode looking forward to next week.
1:12:51
We got to see a little bit of Anne Marie this episode and flash
1:12:57
to her husband who was in hot Water. I know, and I'm so
1:13:00
sad about her losing. I mean, I don't I hope she doesn't lose
1:13:03
that house. It's a pretty cool house. I know. Kyle just jogged
1:13:08
right over to it, just jogging out right over with a pickleball court in
1:13:12
the backyard. God, I know, I don't even play, but I
1:13:16
know, but you got to keep that house, I know. You know.
1:13:20
All right, Thanks, we did it, Yeah, you sure did.
1:13:27
And you know what, We're gonna do it again. We're gonna do
1:13:30
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