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Partners in Cry · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It feels like forever since uh,
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Season twenty aired, and now we're onto Bachelorette season.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know which one of this is with Jojo.
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  Speaker 1: What number is this, Ashley? What was Caitlin was at ten?
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  Speaker 1: Geez ten? I think Jojo was eleven. That's just off
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  Speaker 1: the top of my head. Okay, well, hey, it's JoJo's
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  Speaker 1: season of the Bachelorette airing this week. We're gonna break
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  Speaker 1: down her season. Uh you know, a little memory, uh memorial,
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  Speaker 1: not a memorial that would be like if that I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that season is over, so it could be
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  Speaker 1: a more. But we're just gonna reflection on JoJo's season
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  Speaker 1: of the Bachelor. It was a great season with a
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  Speaker 1: great bachelorette who you and I both think the world of. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But first, as all, we'se we're gonna get into some
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor hot topics. The list of hot topics this week
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  Speaker 1: are some that I know nothing about. As usual, I
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  Speaker 1: need you to educate me, and I'm reading the headlines
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  Speaker 1: right now and I am incredibly intrigued. So Ashley, let's
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  Speaker 1: start with Bachelor hot topics, and then we're gonna bring
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  Speaker 1: on some of Joe Joe's uh men from the season.
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelorette is set to resume production this according to
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  Speaker 1: Variety dot Com and a lot of other sources. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I would say this is the number one hot topic
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  Speaker 1: of the week people have asked for the past, you know,
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  Speaker 1: three months when they're going to resume with filming The Bachelorette,
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  Speaker 1: and the time is here. They won't be filming in
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles County, however, they are shooting in a private
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  Speaker 1: area in southern California. This is what Variety said. And everybody,
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  Speaker 1: cass and crew will be quarantine, temperatures will be taken,
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  Speaker 1: everything is obviously going to be isolated. Um, producers feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's going to be the risk is going to
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  Speaker 1: be limited, and it's gonna be shot on a sound
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  Speaker 1: stage basically. Yeah, you know, there's a lot of of
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  Speaker 1: details still left. Yeah, it's still like, uh, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of details have been left unsaid, but we can assume
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  Speaker 1: that the show is right now working towards what is
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  Speaker 1: a safe environment. I mean, similar to the PGA Tour,
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  Speaker 1: which is one of our best you know, Nascar as well,
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  Speaker 1: some of the best examples of public gatherings. At this point,
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  Speaker 1: there's been massive precautions taking place, and everybody wants that
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  Speaker 1: because as soon as one person would get infected, the
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  Speaker 1: risk that everybody would get infected would be pretty high.
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  Speaker 1: And so, as we just mentioned right now, the headline
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  Speaker 1: is at the bachelrette and the production uh team around
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  Speaker 1: that are resuming filming and talking about the details and
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  Speaker 1: uh and that is more to come soon. But let's
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  Speaker 1: stay with Claire for a bit. There's a couple of
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  Speaker 1: other headlines that I think are important to touch on.
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  Speaker 1: As Claire does begin to um, you know, look towards
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  Speaker 1: the resuming of filming or the start of filming, she
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  Speaker 1: had mids to googling her Bachelor at contestants and she
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  Speaker 1: says she did it with zero Shane. Of course, zero Shaane.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is, I feel like half of those guys,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a third, will still be there because is that
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  Speaker 1: that is that what we're hearing is that they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: totally recast again, completely vague, but I heard somewhere that
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  Speaker 1: like it could be as little as ten guys originally.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we do know Matt James won't be there.
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  Speaker 1: Matt James will not be there. He was originally announced
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  Speaker 1: the part of Claire Crawley season, but we do know
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  Speaker 1: now he is the next bachelor. So it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a limited number of men. It's gonna be uh in
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  Speaker 1: a in a bubble of swords to protect everybody from
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  Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen virus. Now, actually, I want to get
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  Speaker 1: your opinion. It's something I've been thinking about. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think this new strategy of a bubble environment, maybe a
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  Speaker 1: sound stage, maybe a resort that they kind of shut
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  Speaker 1: down just for filming, uh, fewer amounts of men, uh,
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  Speaker 1: fewer less amount of time to film and to date.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see this being a problem for Claire and
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  Speaker 1: her men or do you actually see this being a benefit.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a benefit. One. She's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be so much more well rested. She's not going to
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  Speaker 1: have those days where she has to go around and
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  Speaker 1: just take footage, you know, br roll footage around the
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  Speaker 1: new city. She's not going to have any like kitchen dates,
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  Speaker 1: which are really fun for us as an audience, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, the ones that you had with celebrities. But
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  Speaker 1: because by the way, you guys, they're not letting anybody
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  Speaker 1: on the set basically like if there's no visitors, everybody
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  Speaker 1: who starts there like is the only ones who enter
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  Speaker 1: um they are going. I feel like it's just without
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  Speaker 1: all that the fireworks, the sparkle of what the show
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  Speaker 1: normally comes with, which is like super fun for the viewer,
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  Speaker 1: it may not be helpful for finding love. And I
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  Speaker 1: feel like with Claire taking this maybe even more seriously
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  Speaker 1: than your average lead, it's going to be very beneficial.
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  Speaker 1: And hey, if I could even get if I have
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  Speaker 1: never been in the lead, but knowing that you guys
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  Speaker 1: get like four or five hours of sleep at night,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be very thankful for this style over that style,
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  Speaker 1: because give me a couple more hours of sleep, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll probably be making better decisions. Definitely, No, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I I see what you're saying. I do think it's
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  Speaker 1: a benefit, especially the rest and uh and also I
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  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be fun to see more of the relationship.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they're going to have, like the content that
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna be filming is gonna be the relationship part
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  Speaker 1: and not the b role and not the random like traveling.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to have to be the one on one date.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be the group date, It's gonna be the conversations.
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  Speaker 1: And for me, that's what I enjoy about the show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So what I love is that, um, we may be
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  Speaker 1: able to see more funny moments amongst the contestants. We
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  Speaker 1: may have be able to see more in depth conversations
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  Speaker 1: that aren't just bachelor speak, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like I think I'm falling in love with you, or
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  Speaker 1: like where do you see this going? Like we want
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  Speaker 1: to see like stuff that we actually would talk about
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  Speaker 1: in real life. On the first couple of days, definitely well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, speaking of talking about some important things and
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  Speaker 1: some things that are definitely needed for relationship. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting to learn more and more about Claire and
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  Speaker 1: uh and hear more about her from interviews. Obviously, Claire
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  Speaker 1: has spoken recently to the Happy Our podcast with Rachel
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  Speaker 1: and Becca, and Claire opened up about a past abusive
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  Speaker 1: relationship and at the same time, then she goes on
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  Speaker 1: to explain what she's now looking for in a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: This again according to the Happy Hour podcast. So she
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  Speaker 1: talks about how going into wom Pablo's season, she had
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  Speaker 1: just gotten out of an abusive relationship. She said at
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  Speaker 1: the lowest point, she was living in her car and um,
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  Speaker 1: she just said that. The entire time, she was trying
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  Speaker 1: to be strong, trying to be empowered. And then and
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  Speaker 1: you know when Wan Pablo dumps her in the end
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  Speaker 1: and said the things that he said to her in
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  Speaker 1: the end, it just kind of like when she broke
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  Speaker 1: and she was like, no, this is not okay, I'm you.
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  Speaker 1: You do do not disrespect somebody like this. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it was just kind of like her entire that
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  Speaker 1: entire season. She was just kind of like recovering from
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  Speaker 1: the abuse and trying to tough it out. And then
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  Speaker 1: she was just like, oh, you know what, never mind,
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  Speaker 1: this is when this is gonna this is one of
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  Speaker 1: the strength is really going to come out now. Do
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  Speaker 1: you remember Ashley? And I know it's a very sensitive subject,
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  Speaker 1: especially within the Bachelor world, but what did a Wan
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  Speaker 1: Pablo say exactly too clear to really fire her up? Ben?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know this? Are you asking for your sake?
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  Speaker 1: I I think I know it. Okay, so you guys
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  Speaker 1: can beat this out. But he said, um, I really
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  Speaker 1: it's something like I really really like you. I don't
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  Speaker 1: love you, but I love you m Yeah, yeah, definitely,
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  Speaker 1: definitely there's a reason why we don't hear from Jan
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  Speaker 1: Pablo anymore. So so so terrible, Ashley. A couple other headlines. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: we've just got done talking about Claire Crawley season, which
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  Speaker 1: we are very excited about and and looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: a couple like a little I guess smaller um stories here.
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  Speaker 1: Caitlyn Jenner goes goffing with Bachelor Peter Webber and his family.
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  Speaker 1: What is going I mean, I know they all live
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  Speaker 1: in a very similar area of town, but I saw
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  Speaker 1: this on Instagram and Ashley I was shocked that we
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  Speaker 1: don't have much info about this friendship but whether it's
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  Speaker 1: a new friendship or not. But Caitlin Jenner was the
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  Speaker 1: one who posted the instagram, so either she's a fan
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  Speaker 1: of the Bachelor or has known the Webbers from being
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  Speaker 1: in that Malibu area for a while. Mm hmmmm. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we have a couple of bursts on the way and
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  Speaker 1: a couple of family matters to it too. Obviously. We
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  Speaker 1: just recently have Becka Martinez on the podcast and uh
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  Speaker 1: she reveals now her son's name five days after birth. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we did not get the update Beckam Martinez did have
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  Speaker 1: a baby five days ago and she has now came
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  Speaker 1: up with the name, or I guess not came up
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  Speaker 1: with We don't know, maybe it just announced the name. No,
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  Speaker 1: she like, actually the baby actually didn't have a name
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of days. She said that he was
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  Speaker 1: born on the day that her boyfriend was opening reopening
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  Speaker 1: his rock climbing place in Long Beach, and between that,
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  Speaker 1: just like the chaos of giving birth at home, um
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  Speaker 1: and everything that's going on in the world, she just
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  Speaker 1: said that she just really didn't feel a name until
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  Speaker 1: you know, five days later, and it is Franklin James. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that is quite the name. And congratulations to Becka Martinez.
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  Speaker 1: Also congratulations to bachelor alum who was also a bachelorette
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  Speaker 1: for a short period time, Britain Nielsen. She welcomes her daughter,
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  Speaker 1: Noah Ellis Joy with husband Jeremy into this world. It
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  Speaker 1: was a big baby. She was nine pounds uh long
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  Speaker 1: and it says that her name in Japanese means my
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  Speaker 1: love or from love. It's beautiful. Well, hey, congratulations also
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  Speaker 1: to britt uh to other family topics Lauren Bushnell or
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  Speaker 1: I guess Lauren Lane. Now as probably we should call
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  Speaker 1: her pens tribute to Chris Lane as she reveals they've
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  Speaker 1: been praying to start a family. So Lauren took to
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  Speaker 1: Instagram to tell everyone that, you know, they're thinking trying
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  Speaker 1: about having a baby, and um, she said, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to read the quote. When I was talking to Chris,
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  Speaker 1: he said, have you prayed about it the you know,
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  Speaker 1: conceiving And then then I said, well yes, and then
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  Speaker 1: he responded, have you really prayed hard about it? If
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  Speaker 1: that's what we really want, pray and you know that
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  Speaker 1: it will happen in God's time and if it's what
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  Speaker 1: he wants for us, and I'll pray with you. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And Lauren just got really emotional about this, and she
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  Speaker 1: wrote about how much she appreciates Chris and is grateful
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  Speaker 1: for the race, relationship and faith they have together. Well, uh,
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  Speaker 1: we will be keeping everbody updated on that story coming up. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Uh nothing happens overnight. I mean at least we won't
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  Speaker 1: know about it overnight, and so uh uh we look
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  Speaker 1: forward to all of these family events and especially this
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  Speaker 1: update where you know what we've always hinted at it
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  Speaker 1: your good friend Carly Wattle and uh Evan Bass, who
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  Speaker 1: have been together since Bachelor in Paradise. Uh, they don't
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  Speaker 1: want any more kids. We've always wondered if they're going
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  Speaker 1: to or not, but they said they're done. Their exact quote,
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  Speaker 1: according to US Magazine, is we wouldn't make it if
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  Speaker 1: we had more So she's referring to their marriage. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, Carly is just so real and I love
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  Speaker 1: that about her. You know that when she said this,
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't like we would get divorced if we had
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  Speaker 1: another kid. That's not what she means by it. She
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  Speaker 1: just means that they would put a further strey on
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  Speaker 1: their relationship. And she's already so exhausted with the two kids,
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  Speaker 1: and she's already you know, she already finds it hard
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  Speaker 1: to find time for herself and time for Evan in
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  Speaker 1: addition to the kids. So she just, you know, for
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  Speaker 1: the sake of their marriage, it'll be easier if they
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  Speaker 1: just keep it at two plus the three um step
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  Speaker 1: children that she has with him. That's fair, that's fair. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they really have five kids. They have five kids. It's
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  Speaker 1: a wild undertaking. I do feel like the hot topics
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  Speaker 1: of this podcast were about family and the hopeful starts
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  Speaker 1: to families and desires and the wishes. Bachelor Nation is
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  Speaker 1: expanding quickly, but there's also some unfortunate news. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've had to me Burnette on the podcast before. Demmy
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  Speaker 1: is a friend to our of ours, and we didn't
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  Speaker 1: in depth with her just a few weeks ago at
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  Speaker 1: this point. At that time, she was with her boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: Slater Davis during the quarantine, but has now opened up.
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  Speaker 1: They have split due to toxic trust issues. Yeah. She
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  Speaker 1: said that site self isolating together was essentially what messed
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  Speaker 1: up their relationship. She said, being with somebody that you
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  Speaker 1: just met like a month ago and then spending every
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  Speaker 1: single day together, both of us were going stir trick crazy,
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  Speaker 1: not being ourselves, not doing our normal routines, and it
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  Speaker 1: really gets the people. She said that she loves him, Um,
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  Speaker 1: she's crazy about him. He's wonderful, and it's just been
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  Speaker 1: really hard. She said that they were wanting to work
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  Speaker 1: on theirselves and that they're still good friends. It's just
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  Speaker 1: never fun. It's just never one fun when you're going
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  Speaker 1: through a breakup. So who knows if it's like the
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  Speaker 1: real end end for them, um, but right now they
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  Speaker 1: are working on themselves. All right. Well, that's it for
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  Speaker 1: Hot Topics This week. After this break, we have some
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  Speaker 1: great interviews with Luke pal Wells Adams, Derek Path, and
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  Speaker 1: Grant Kemp. Come first to the podcast, Ashley, Uh, he's
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  Speaker 1: been great till almost from his podcast. It's Derek Paith.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about Derek Paith? I love Derek.
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  Speaker 1: He's so funny and warm and I feel like, very
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  Speaker 1: very comfortable around him. He Uh, he was with us
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  Speaker 1: during our San Francisco Live show back a couple months ago. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He did one of the most impressive things I've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen another human do. What was that? He ate a
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  Speaker 1: whole block that's right, Oh my god, you guys it
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  Speaker 1: was Brie. So imagine a big breathe circle. Right, he
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  Speaker 1: ate the entire thing is a dare. I'd don't know
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  Speaker 1: how it went over in his hotel room later, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was the opposite, maybe like he was blocked
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  Speaker 1: up for a week. Here's one thing I get. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the repercussion, I know what they
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  Speaker 1: would be to me and yeah, um, but actually here's
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  Speaker 1: one of the things, uh that I noticed. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we had had a few drinks. Now, nobody was over
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  Speaker 1: indulging with the liquor before the show because we were
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  Speaker 1: in front of a live audience. Derek definitely was not
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  Speaker 1: over indulging when it comes to alcoholic beverages, but he
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  Speaker 1: claimed that the brie actually got him like cheese drunk,
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  Speaker 1: which is what I researched. It's almost a thing like
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  Speaker 1: when you eat so much cheese. Yes, it like messages
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  Speaker 1: with your brain a little bit for a while. You
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  Speaker 1: get like a high from eating too much cheese. Is
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: this one of those things that then like he like
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  Speaker 1: finds very very very small evidence on and then it's
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  Speaker 1: just like a fact. Yeah? Yeah, Hey when if I
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  Speaker 1: when have I led you as straight? I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you never know. My facts are my facts. Ashley. Anyways, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's bring on Derek to almost in his podcast. Hey Derek,
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  Speaker 1: Hey Ashley. So, we just watched your departure on JoJo's
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  Speaker 1: season and they really really milked the Don't Cry for
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  Speaker 1: Me Argentina part, which I thought was hilarious the first
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  Speaker 1: three seconds. And I don't know if this was in
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  Speaker 1: the original, but I'm pretty sure they played the song
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  Speaker 1: for like a whole two minutes as you cried in
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  Speaker 1: the back seat. They did did You Cry? Along with me, yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: partners and cry. I can't help myself with a pun
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  Speaker 1: right then. Um, when I watched it the very first time,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because when you actually look at it. UM,
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  Speaker 1: I was like trying to justify it because I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really cry that much and um, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: like trying to tell myself that because I was just
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  Speaker 1: like kind of ashamed of it back then. But I think,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, we should you know, own that stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and I learned over time. Yeah, but it was it
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  Speaker 1: was it was funny to see again and like see
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  Speaker 1: the actual full scale tearful exit. What about that moment
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  Speaker 1: made it so emotional for you? I think it was
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  Speaker 1: just because it was so surprising. Um. You know obviously,
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  Speaker 1: like we chatted with some of the producers leading up
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  Speaker 1: to UM organizing like watching this season back and everything,
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  Speaker 1: and I was talking with one of them about how
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  Speaker 1: UM with Chase, Uh, everybody was kind of prepared for
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  Speaker 1: him to be the one like heading home that night,
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  Speaker 1: and the whole like production team in the background actually
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  Speaker 1: ended up running around because they were, Yeah, they were
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  Speaker 1: surprised by like the decision that was made. Um, this
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  Speaker 1: is actually very juicy. Yeah, um, and so it was
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  Speaker 1: I guess, like been watching that it just added to
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  Speaker 1: me going this like this didn't make any sense to
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  Speaker 1: me at the time. Obviously, Now like I get it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she knew no with me, but she didn't
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  Speaker 1: know that it was a no with Chase, and so
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  Speaker 1: like she still had to explore that. I think she
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  Speaker 1: just knew who I was more because we spent so
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  Speaker 1: much time together. So, you know, I get it, And uh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thankful that I didn't, you know, get more. I
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  Speaker 1: guess emotionally invested than I already was, which was quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit obviously. You guys, so you talked about with
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  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison the way that you weren't comfortable with emotion
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  Speaker 1: so much up until doing the Bachelorette. How has like
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  Speaker 1: your whole life change now that you're more comfortable in dating,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: in like family relationships, I mean so much for the better,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you know. I think like before it was like I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: had put this pressure on myself too. I grew up
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: in the Midwest, you know, like be a manly man
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: or or whatever, and the truth is that it's like
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't just allow you to be you. And so I
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: think now I'm just more um in the moment, like
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: who I am, how I you know, respond as opposed
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to overthinking about how how what I should say or
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: or how I should react to things. UM. So I'm
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I feel so blacked. I can't tell you how blessed
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I am that I've been through that. It was real painful,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: it was really hard. I like rejected the whole world
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and like shut down on all social media for a
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: while because people were laughing about it, and I was like, oh,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the people shouldn't be laughing about that. You know, I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: didn't get it at the time. People were laughing about
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: you cry on the Bachelor. That's not that rare, I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: know exactly, UM, but you know what it was, it
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: was a good learning opportunity for me. Well, recently, Derek,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you have announced and I guess started a relationship with
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: just a beautiful person who I've had the pleasure of meeting.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Uh what what what means? As kind of off the
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: question actually just asked what lessons have you taken into
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: this relationship and how's it going? UM? I think that
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I mean in line with that, my relationships are so
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: much better now from um again, instead of like trying
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: to fit myself or like overthink, um, who I am
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: into a relationship too, you know I have in the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: past like definitely found myself trying to like fit into
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: someone else's I'm a people pleaser, you know, try to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: fit into someone else's like world of what what they
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: want or what I think would make the relationship last
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: longer because they're they're asking for things. And I think
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I am just like so much more myself now, which
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: has made um our relationships so much more powerful better
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: in mind with Saffron will say her name then, um, yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: pretty she is is on the inside as well. Um,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I and I think that that's that speaks
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: a lot to how like you've been able to go
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: from dating for a few weeks to basically living together
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: for the last like three months. It's over a hundred
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: days now, Um because she's naturally that way, you know.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: But but like I don't think I would have been
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: that way, and um, so it's just you know, it
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: allows us to actually I think I know that, uh
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: that this is going places. Congratulate a super pump for you, buddy.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: How do you guys meet you've met her before, Ben
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: that actually met her the second time we hung out, Um,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: because Ben and Wells were in town. Yeah by because
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I already could see that you know connection that we had.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: We're eating dinner next to each other. And actually, I mean,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I know you guys both know Charlene, I was eating
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: with with she and her husband and we were just
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: eating right next to each other at the restaurant. That's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: so cute and cool. Love I have well every day,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you know, crossing paths kind of thing. I have one
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: little final for you. What happened with you being on
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the Benches podcast? Um, you know, like everything that happened
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: with us going through lockdown, etcetera. It was just it
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: was just like so much I think on both of
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: us that, um it made sense to to not you know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: do that on both sides. Yeah, well, we will miss
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you on that podcast. You're a great host. Um, you're
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: a great dude. Have fun with the week ahead and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: kind of celebrating this whole week of of Joe Joe
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and her Men, and also once again, congratulations on the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: new relationship with a beautiful uh girl named Saffron. Hey
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: dark Paith, you're the man. Talk to you soon. Bye.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Actually we'll just roll right in here to uh our
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: next guest who is somebody uh who Vachelination definitely knows.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: They've percent enjoyed. His face has shown up every year, somehow,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: some way since his time on The Bachelorette. One of
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: my favorite people in the world. Welcome to Almost Fas podcast,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: our friend Wills Adams hi Wells. Hello, Hello, um okay,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: but made me literally laugh out loud in this recap
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: reflection on Jojo season. Was when you said for the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: first time that, um, you saw Chad and not just
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: eat the meat on the chicken, but actually the bones. Yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So you guys, remember you have dead days, right, like
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: travel days. There's no filming going on. And it was
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the week between leaving. It was the day between leaving
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the mansion and going to our first stop, which was
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: beautiful vistas of Nemicole in Pennsylvania. Like Robbie decided to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: grill up some some it was it was ribs. It
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: was pork ribs. Oh sorry, pork ribs. That's right, I
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: forgot and and no joke. He was fighting the rib
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and bone and then chewing it up and eating. I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: remember being like, what are you doing and he was like,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you know, it's great. There's a lot of great protein
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: in't here, and I was I just remember being like,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: you are going to be sting blood for the next
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: three weeks, so this isn't like this wasn't a joke.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I thought this. I've always thought this was a joke.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: There's no cameras that day, so there was no cameras
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and he voluntarily ate the bones because that would have
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: been a great on camera moment. Oh my god, it
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: would been. I just remember being like I was like
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a shick for a long time,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: like he was like a plant. It was like they're
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: like mass with us. And then he did that now
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and there were no cameras around. I was like, oh man,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: this is real life? Are those the best moments? Though,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Like the moments where you're on the show and you're like,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: this is when people won't believe me that it's not scripted,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: like stuff like that's happening. You're like, nobody will ever
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: believe me that this chat is real? Yeah? Well yeah,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the best stuff was always I remember being like, where
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: are the cameras right now? There's one when we got
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to Argentina and we ended up getting so drunk because
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: like the mal beck wine was the flowing. There was
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: no cameras, so we just sat and played poker for
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: like four hours straight and we got I got only
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I can't speak for anybody else, but I got so
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and I remember a producer was like, you need to
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: go to bed, and I was like, and the next
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: day was my one on one and that's why everyone
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: was like, WELLS looks nervous. I didn't. I wasn't nervous.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I was thinking I was gonna throw up, and soon
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Wills went home. Well, you also talked about how you
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: thought that you were going to get the first impression
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: rose so much so that you actually stood up as
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Jojo walk to you. Can we like know more about
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: what you guys talked about, because I feel like you
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: were in a focal point at that point. For Well,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the dialogue was is that like I had the best
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: intro amongst the guy that's not fair you brought a
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: band with you and I was like yeah, man, So
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: like that was the dialogue amongst the guys just in general.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: And then we had like you don't see it, but
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: because like Daniel gets drunk and jumps in the pool
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and like Jordan makes that with her, So there was
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: like bigger storylines. But I was followed around by all
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: for one the entire night. So, like I would walk around,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: they'd just be singing acapella behind me, and I was
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: just like, this is badass. I got like this band
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: behind me. So when I hung out with Joe Joe, uh,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: they were sitting behind us like serenading us. And she
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: was like, is this what your life is like? And
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, every day we got I got a
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: new band that just follows me around. We go to subway,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you order a sandwich, They'll be band singing in the background.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And she thought it was so funny, and I was like,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: this is good. I had a good intro. We had
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a really good conversation. I didn't know that like people
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: were making out with their night one like jumped. So
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, I got this for sure. And so yeah,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: when she comes around the corner, I get up and
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like and then walking and I was like, Okay,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: it's awkward. Hurts. Uh, Well, well, you know you came
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: onto the show already, Uh with a very successful career
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: in Nashville as a radio host. Uh. You know, you
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: consistently gotten awards in Nashville for your time there and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: then you come on this show and life is kind
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: of I mean, I think for anybody out there, this
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily has changed your life, it's enhanced it in
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: every way. For anybody out there that's kind of needing
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: caught up on what's gone on over the last what
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: is it four years since your time on the Bachelorette,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: what's been going on? Uh? Did some laundry today of um,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: what's been going on? So yeah, if you're not caught up.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I after my season the Bachelorette that I went on
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise where I ended up making out with
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: your co host here. Hi didn't work out, but I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: ended up scoring like a pretty cushy gig with Uh.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: With Paradise, they let me go back every year and
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: be the bartender and give advice and make drinks. Interrupting,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: What was your favorite season to bartend for? I mean,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: b I P four with my first season doing it
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: was the best, but it was also the worst because
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: it was the sea that there was the scandal and
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the shutdown, but it was it was one of those
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: things that like you know, like tragedy and like chaos
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: kind of like really bond people. Um, and that's what
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: happened that season. We were all like really bonded because
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: we all went through a weird thing that like no
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: one hopefully will no one ever after experience again. But
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: we were like it was we were quarantined. We got
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: shut down for ten days. We couldn't do anything. We
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: had to all hang out together. There's no filming. That
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: was your first quarantine. I know it will say I
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: got good at quarantine. Then I remember because I live
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: in a different I live in like a different hotel
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: than everyone else does, and so it's like six days
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I was all of myself and I remember calling up
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: alone and I was like one of the EPs, and
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, can I come hang out with everybody?
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I'm really lone me And they're like, oh, you're not
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: about you. Yeah, but anyways, Yeah, So I did the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Paradise Bar attending gig and then at some point in
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the middle there, I convinced um a girl to get
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: engaged with me or named Sarah Highland you probably know
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the show Modern Family. Um, we uh were happily engaged.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: And then I'm just still working and doing you know,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: podcasts and hosting gigs and all that kind of stuff,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: staying busy. That's about it. I always talk about how
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Ben really needed The Bachelor to find Jess because if
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it weren't for him in his blue checkmark and you know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: being a reliable figure, she probably wouldn't have ever responded
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to him on Instagram. Uh, do you and Sarah ever
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: go and think about ways that you would have possibly
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: met if it weren't for The Bachelor? Do you guys
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: think you would have found each other? I do not
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: think we would have found um because I've seen but
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: her d ms look like and it is crazy, So
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: there's no way that she would ever have seen me
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: amongst the myriad of thirsty dudes out there. Okay, so
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: your blue checkmark really helped to but also her being
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: a Bachelor fan really helped. Yeah. I don't know if
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the blue checkmark did anything. I think it was she
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: was a big fan of the show. She's like bascher
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Nation since like day one. Um, and yeah, I think
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: that she she liked me. And then, um, I think
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: that she like when I became the bartender and was
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: like giving like sweet advice things. She really liked that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And so she was the one who tweeted me first
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and then I d M R after that, and then
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you know, the rest is history. Oh man, it's crazy
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to see. It's awesome to celebrate. Uh, well, we love
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you here, we appreciate you. I do know you have
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a project with I Heart going on right now. Uh
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: for anybody out there listening to him about it, Yeah,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I do. Um, I do a couple of different podcasts,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: but they want to do if I Heart is called
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Wells Cast, and um, it's really fun. So I'm I've
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: always been kind of fascinated with how people become successful,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: whether you're a musician or an actor or what it
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: could be any a governor, it could be anything. Um.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I've always been super interested in the steps that people
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: have to take to get to those places because it
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: is and happen overnight. Like overnight, success does not exist
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: even when it seems like that. Uh, it takes years
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and years of work. And and there's a lot of
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: people out there that asked me a question like, you know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: how did how did you get to this point? And yes,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: like the Bachelor at helped move move things along maybe
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: fashion the normally would, but I worked really really hard
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and radio and and I I grind it out and
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I hustled and I did all that kind of stuff
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and was, like you said earlier, it was a very
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: successful DJ in in Nashville. And uh, there's a lot
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: of really thingous people that have those stories that um,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I would like to I like to find out about
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: in showcase. And for those people out there trying to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: figure out and hack the system and and and crack
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the code as to how to become successful, it's a
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: good podcast for that. It shows, um the steps you
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: need to take and and the hustle and the drive
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: that you need to have to become successful. So if
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: you want to listen to that, it's called The Wells Cast,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and um it's fun. And then I also talked to
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: really really really funny people. We have comedians, musicians, actors, everything. Um,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: so it's entertaining. Well, you're always entertaining. We love you dearly.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on your relationship with Sarah and vice versa to Sarah.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: She's a lucky girl, You're a lucky guy. And we
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: look forward to hearing the updates on when and how.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I know that. Uh, the COVID Night teen has changed
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: your plans quite a bit here recently, and so we'll
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: look forward to getting you back on soon with an
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: update on when and how you guys are going to
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: be getting married. With that, it's wells, Adams, Wells, thanks
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: for coming on. Thanks guys. Al Right, guys, we have
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: a Grant Kemp on the line. We haven't seen him
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: since his engagement to Lace. I'm Bachelor in Paradise. Welcome
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: to the podcast, Grant, Thank you, Thank you for having me.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. It's been a while since
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I've been able to talk to you guys. How you
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: guys doing. We're good? How are you good? I can't complain?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: So what have you been doing over the past four years?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: We we haven't seen you on any other Bachelor shows
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and we're wondering what happened. Well, actually we did. I
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: did because you are a Bachelor in Paradise with Jared,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: but most people don't know that. Um, your best Bachelor
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: in Paradise Australia with Jared. Yeah yeah. The last the
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: last show I did was Bachelor Paradise Australia. Was actually
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: their first season of it. Um, so yeah, I did
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that show. I ended up leaving the show with a girl.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Things didn't end up working out. Um, I kind of
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: walked in on her cheating on me, But that's a
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: whole different story. Didn't she then become the bachelor right
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: in Australia? He did, actually, Yeah, So basically what happened
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: was the whole scandal went down in l A when
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I when I flew her out, I walked in on
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: or cheating on me with one of my friends. And
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: then she flew back to Australia like the next day,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and like I could tell that the producers are kind
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: of had a plan for her to be the next bachelotte,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: be cause they had asked her before, but she couldn't
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: do it because she had like a boyfriend or something
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: like that. And so I knew they had her like
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: kind of in the running for it if she were
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: to break up with me, And that's exactly what happened.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: So they made her the next bachelorette. Um, and she
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: put out like a fake story about me, um to
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: try and cover up the fact that she cheated me.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: It was yeah, it was already too late for them
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: to change who they chose as the bachelorette when my
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: side of the story came out. So um, yeah, I
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: mean she caught a whole bunch of heat for it,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and like all this stuff came out the first episode
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: of her season about her cheating on me and he
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: becoming old. Yeah, that was that was pretty hectic. I
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: was on the h Kyle and JACKIEO Show in Australia,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: which is like basically the same thing. It's talking to
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Ryan Seacrests about how he got cheated on. So like
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the whole country knew about it going into her season,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: which was crazy. Wow, I'm surprised I didn't have you
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: make a little surprise appearance on her season after that. Yeah,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I mean it did come up, like it was such
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: a big deal that the users did have to make
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: people talk about it because guys were in the house
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: talking about it like, yo, she cheated on Grant like
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah it so it was such a thing
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: they had to have it be part of one of
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the episodes and she ended up sending a bunch of
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: guys home because of it. Wow. Now, yeah, Grant, we
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: just recently had lace on the podcast and she admitted
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: to still having her her tattoo that do you still
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: have yours? Um, I don't, I don't have mine. I
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: actually actually covered it up when we broke up, I
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: covered up with the Black Rose ironically, but it's interesting. Yeah,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: it was no shade against her, you know, I just
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: it would be moving on, you know what I mean.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't really make a big deal of it, but
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: um yeah, I mean I technically still have it, but
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: it is covered up. When you think back on your
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Bachelor experiences, is there anything that you would do differently
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: you know what? Actually, no, I mean I wouldn't. I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: wouldn't take back any of it. Um. I. I definitely
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: really am glad that I made the choice that I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: did on the show. Um, I think I did the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: right thing when it came to everything I did on
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: all the shows that I was on, you know, Um,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I was people people were kind of expecting me to
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: get engaged in Australia. When I left the show with
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: my expert, Jared definitely came back and he was like,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I think that Grant's gonna get engaged again. Yeah. No,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't do that again, especially on TV,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: unless it's like, you know, no, I just didn't take
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: that chance, and it's trying to take that chance once,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: but it's like I don't know about taking it twice.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Especially not being as as confident with that relationship because
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I was the first one. I mean, thank goodness he didn't, right, Yeah, yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: because what would happened before you came on? We had
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: wells on and we were talking about behind the scenes
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: with Chad, who has a huge part into you know
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah, do you have any other behind the
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: scenes crazy us from Chad like him eating park Bones
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that we didn't see you on TV? Oh, like from
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Jorjo's season. A lot. There's a lot that happened like
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: between us on Jujo's season and on Paradise too because
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: of the lates thing, you know what I mean, Because
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: they was talking to Chad before Paradise started, so that
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: was like a whole that stuff thing in the beginning
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: of that too. But I mean I think I don't know. Um,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: remember there was there was a couple of moments in
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the house in Pennsylvania when it was really early in
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the morning and there was like no cameras, Like me
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and Chatter were just arguing. It was like super heated,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and it ended before they could get a bunch of
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: cameras over there. But I remember we almost like fought
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: in the kitchen while somebody was like making vacant or something.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: It almost like Chad obviously has a huge part uh
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: in the episode? Are are you two shocked by that
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit? I mean, I'm surprised that he was
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: such a focus. I mean, I don't know. I mean,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: the way he does things is so explosive that it
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: made sense that, like he was a big part of
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the episode, you know what I mean, just because he
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: caused so much commotion that it was kind of you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: production couldn't really ignore that, right, Yeah, I have to agree.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: When I think of Jojo season, I think of obviously
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Jojo and Jordan, how sweet they are. But I also
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: then think about Chad, like I just think that he's
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: like the second man character, which is kind of unfortunate
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: for Jojo. Honest yeah, I mean he sort of was
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: because he knew how to mess with people and like
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: he he really knew how to get under people's skin.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, it was entertaining, to
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: be honest, I mean, to have people blowing up like that,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: people love the season on reality, you know, do you
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: think that he is the most villainous villain of Bachelor history? Honestly, yeah,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, I'm not even gonna yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: because I can't. I mean, you have to think about
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: there's not really anybody else that's left that lasting of
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: an impression on a season, because you can't bring up
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: JoJo's season and not have some you say, oh what
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: about that chat? Guy like you? It's like it's like
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the second thing people say after you hear the word
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Jojo season, you know, the well, let's switch gears for
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: one second away from JoJo's season because we know that
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: life has moved on for you. Uh, we were familiar
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: with the fact that you have started a music career
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: that you've been working on now for a few years.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Has this always been a passion of yours? You know?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I know you just released a new single with James Kennedy.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Where did this come from? Well, I've always
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I've always made music almost my whole life. I've been
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: making music since I was like little, but um, I
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: just never I always did a bunch of songwriting and
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. I never really released a song. Um
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: and after you know, being on a couple of seasons
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: of you know, our shows and stuff like that, I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: was like, you know what, why wouldn't I just use
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: this as an opportunity to just release some music, you know.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: So every everything's been going really well. I'm actually super excited.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I have some collabs on the way with some some
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: pretty big artists that I'm super excited about. And yeah,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I mean things have have definitely been moving in the
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: right direction. And like, I can't think the Bachelor Nation
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: enough for kind of giving me that platform and and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: actually taking my music seriously when it comes to me,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: you know, not just doing reality TV and doing music
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: as well. You know, so I'm super happy about that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Does your music career mean we will no longer see
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: you on any reality shows? Um? I mean, I don't know.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say never. I mean there was a show
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: that that I, um, I was interviewing to be on
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: that wasn't on ABC, that I ended up not doing.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And then uh, there was actually supposed to be something
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: in May. Uh. I don't know if I'm allowed to
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: talk about it, but yeah, I mean it was Summer
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Games I was I was planning on going on. Actually
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you know that whole thing got canceled because of coronavirus.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean I probably would have popped out,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and he did on another show. You know, but um, yeah, hey,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: maybe summer games will happen next summer when the actual
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Olympics happen. Yeah, would be awesome now, we hope. So
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: we'll grant thanks again, best of luck with your your
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: music pursuit. Thanks for coming on, thanks for giving us
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: your time. Alright, guys, I'll talk to you. And finally
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: the podcast today. Uh, we have a familiar name to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the almost famous team. It's Luke Pelle. Luke is joining
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: us right now. What's up dude? Hello? Hello, Hi, So Luke?
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Is it weird to watch this season back? I still
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: watched it back thinking like, man, I don't know how
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Luke didn't get to run her up, and I don't
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: know how he didn't become the Bachelor after this. Ah. Man,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: there there's so many things we don't know about every season,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: and they're full of surprises. No, it was, it's gonna
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: be cool. I don't really think I watched early the
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: first time around all the episodes because I was either like,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: you're on Twitter or you're like talking with other people
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: watching it or whatever. So it'll be cool to kind
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: of watch the highlight reel. I guess tonight. So you
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: didn't watch when you're a season originally aired, why not?
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Jared didn't really either. I feel I find that guys
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: don't watch more than girls don't watch. You know, I
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: had intentions of watching it, just there was so many
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: distractions that it just didn't I didn't. I got to
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: watch a little bit here and there, but it was
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: like snippets of it, and almost for me, it became
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: more entertained to watch it on Twitter as people would
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: like live tweet, throw up the memes like whatever that was.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: It was very engaging on there, and then you know,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: what was happening on TV was just enough to get
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of content to go back
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: to Twitter with it. It was kind of funny, are
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you just I mean, when it comes to what's your
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: relationship with the show, does it still excite you or
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: is this something that you would rather have just never happened. No,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I would I would never go to the point of
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: saying I wish it never would happen. Um, you know,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: obviously for me that it was up and then downs.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, my first experience start of the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: gay for this Bachelorettes, and I was so positive and
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: so fun and like I had you know, just a
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: coincidental you know, organic connection to Joe Joe and so
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: all those things uh that led up to my first
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: experience and made it up of that it was cool,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you know and fun and positive everything came out of it. Uh.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: And then of course you know, went back for the
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Old Winner Games experiment uh, and you know that was
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: overall it was a cool experience for me. But then
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I had, you know that press at the end of
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: that in about a ten second um after show, uh snippet.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm like falling, uh to a villain status almost,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: So you know, I had to kind of weather that,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: you know, calculate what what's happened like is is what
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I'm being perceived as? Really who I am? Did I
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: do something wrong? Like all those kind of things. So
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I was on both sides of the spectrum of having
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a very positive experience and then a negative experience with it.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: So um. But at the end of the day, I
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: think everything happens for a reason, and I'm so thankful
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: for you know, the time that I spent, you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: shooting those shows and the relationships even more importantly that
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: that were built during that time. So, so did you
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: have any trepidations when they asked you to come on
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and do an interview with Chris Harrison since the last
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: time you're on the show left, you know, uh, you're
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: feeling a little villainized. Um, I didn't really, you know,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I felt like, uh, it, time kind of goes by
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: these shows. There's ups and downs, and I think that
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: you know, people, you know, it gets kind of gets
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: sensationalized sometimes like in the moment and then like three
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: years later, and unless people perpetuated on purpose, like you know,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: there's like the guys like Chad Johnson who like decided
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: he wanted to be a professional villain for the rest
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: of his life, you know what I mean, Like if
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: you're just hey, you know, that was a time period.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: That was an experience that we were all going through.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I may have said this or didn't say that or whatever.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Then you know, wounds wounds hill, and I think that
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: you're like, ah, you know, I was kind of cross
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: with you guys for a little bit. It might have
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: been bitter for a little bit, and then you know,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I mean you get over it and like, yeah, that
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: was still a fun experience and I learned about myself
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be so Yeah, I was
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: excited to catch up with Chris. You know, it is
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: one of the things that have happened from the reunion
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: shows and the Bachelor Goats so far. This is giving
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: people a voice who maybe didn't have the best experience
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: on the show. And I think it's honestly, I think
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: it's such a positive thing. Comes to mind as you
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Louke and Olivia, uh, you know, great people who need
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: that redemption. Yeah. Absolutely. I saw the clip um where
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: they actually had you and Olivia talking, uh from from
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: your season Ben, and and that was I had that
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: same revelation. I was like, Wow, this is actually really
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: cool because you know, I had talked to her through
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: the years about you know, she had some deeply rooted
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: uh you know, pain from the whole experience, and so
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to kind of see that redemption door open and open
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that conversation up, I think, what's such a healthy thing
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: and and and really cool that this is this is,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: you know, playing out like this. So the where do
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: you sit now? Then? I mean, what's your relationship status
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: are you? Are you out there mingling dating? Are you
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: in a relationship? Yeah? You know, so through it's it
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: it feels weird to talk about it because now everything's
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: coming back up, and so I kind of gotten used to,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: you know, having a private relationship, not being uh you know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: publicly criticized or whatever analyzed by my relationship status and whatnot.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Because I was in a two year relationship, um, somebody
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: who I love very much and and and made plans
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: for the future with and all those things, and um,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: you know, a few months ago it kind of came
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: to a point where it didn't make sense anymore. And
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: of course we're going through you know, there's a lot
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: of things happening in life, and it's never you know,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: just a cookie cutter situation. And we had COVID and lockdown,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and we're dealing with all these different things, um that
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: are going on. But uh, you know, uh, we we
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: decided to end that relationship, um, and and trying to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: work on it for a while and do that that
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: thing and um. So yeah, so really I guess where
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I'm at currently. I'm working on myself. I'm just trying
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: to that that was a big, a big shift for me. Um.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: It's not just you know, I was in I was
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: in a long term, very committed relationship, and so you know,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I'm in a place where emotionally, I'm just trying to
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: just say, hey, what what is the next season of
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: life for me? Look like? How can I be prepared
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: for that? Um? You know, and and and be able
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: to be open and and and to move on you know,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and and so anyway, that's kind of where I'm at,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: just working on myself and and focusing on on the
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: future right now. Did quarantine help you musically? Did you
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: have a lot of time to concentrate on that. Um?
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I did get to do some work with the music
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: stuff during quarantine, of course. UM, you know, all the
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: publishing companies and things here in Nashville, we're taking precautions
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: and so instead of uh, you know, writer's meeting up, uh,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: you're doing zoom rights and things like that. So that
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: actually made it a little tougher talk. I talked to
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of songwriters that were like, yeah, man, you know,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: because it's kind of you kind of want to get
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: the chemistry right in the room. You've got two or
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: three people, but maybe you know each other, maybe you
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: haven't met before, and you're trying to say, oh, let's
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: write a song. And there's just so many little variables
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: that go into that and so uh the zoom you know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: piece of it did add some complications. But um, since then,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: you know, we've they've they've opened up the restrictions and
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: we've gotten back to uh being able to hang out
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: with other songwriters and and kind of do it like
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: we used to do. So Um, yeah, it's it's been
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: fun and been good overall, but uh, definitely uh tough
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: for Nashville as an industry and as a town, the
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: entertainment industry as a whole because of all the public
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: venue shutdowns and everything. Um, for all the guys that
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: were touring and all of that stuff. So and I
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: guess like you guys been were you'all were still doing
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor on the live on stage thing when this
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: pandemic happened. Oh yeah, man, I was twenty shows in
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: and rented my house out in Denver, got to move
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: back in with my parents for a bit. Life life
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: changed quickly for me. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. How
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: so how twenty shows of how many were we're on
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the calendar sixties six stops? We uh, we went up twenty,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: which is about the whole West coast. So we started
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: to work towards the Midwest, and we were going to
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: get to about thirty shows in the middle, you know,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: in in the Midwest, and then starting the East coast again.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: You know, So, Luke, I would love to say that
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I am a touring expert. I'm unlike you yet. I'm trying,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: but I do get a taste of it life on
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, it's an interesting, interesting experience for sure.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, twenty that's a that's a lot of
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: You've got a good taste of it. You're only a
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: third of the way. But Luke, I want to end
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: on a very silly question. Your villain Chad, as we've
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: talked about, is now in the porn industry. How shocking
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: or not shocking is this move? You know, I think
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, maybe that's a full circle moment
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: for Chad. Maybe he was destined for the porn and
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: this tree. I don't know. Uh, the chat that i've
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: you know, met on the Bachelor back then, you know,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: you you could have told me he was in the
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: porn industry like when I met him, and I would
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: have believe right that was that was Jad Johnson. Um.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: So you know, I don't I wouldn't say that you
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: know who knows the best of luck to Chad and
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: whatever his aspirations in life are. I'm not one to
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: judge him, but that that sounds like a very interesting
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: career shift that he's taken on. But I actually look
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: and this is I don't think Ashley, we've ever actually
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: talked about Chad's on the career on the podcast. I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: don't know why. I mean, it's maybe just because we
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: brush over it. But yes, that is uh that that
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: you know what? Hey, as we celebrate Joe Joe's season
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: of the Bachelorette and all of her men, we also, um,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: we got to celebrate the successes of each Luke, we
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: celebrate your successes. We wish the best for you. Uh,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: thank you for coming on, Thanks for sharing your time
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: with almost From his podcast by Luke, I have a
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: great week. See hey, Ben, I thought that I should.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I can give you a little info as to how
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Chad's life is going because I had him on the
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: where are we going with this? Actually I had him
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: on that how much do you know about where his
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: life is going? At ib on me? I don't get
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: a podcast about a month ago. And so he's moved
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: to Vegas and He's basically trying to be like the
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Heffner of porn, where well, you know, I guess Hefner
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: was in charge of porn, but like more in like
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: a video centric way, and he um is trying to
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: like make a playboy house there, but like it would
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: be a porn house and like yeah, and then porn
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: stars come, they like rent a room, and then they're
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: like it's a whole house of porn. You know, Ash,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I don't have a lot to say about this obviously.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: You know, Chad's life and my life don't cross past
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: too often. He does randomly like tweet some weird stuff
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  Speaker 1: to me when he gets angry at something, or you know,
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  Speaker 1: he asked me to fight him, but I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't really like keep up with Chad. It's you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's I'd say. All I have to say to that
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  Speaker 1: is this. One of the best parts about Bachelor Nation
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: is is everybody goes off and does their own individual
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: things post show, and we get to see that through
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: these recaps and reunions. Um is, we get to get
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a sneak peek about where life
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  Speaker 1: is at for all of these past contestants. But I'll
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: have to listen that. I'll listen to all very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: D's never been anything but nice to me personally. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: so we will turn it down and and he he
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  Speaker 1: did not hold back. I got it's definitely an almost
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  Speaker 1: ex rated podcast. You know, he's always been nice to me.
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  Speaker 1: That's the part that's Uh, it's been surprising. Anytime he
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  Speaker 1: came on the podcast here or when I've seen him
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  Speaker 1: in person, he's always been Uh, he's been kind, you
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  Speaker 1: know your way. Yeah. The tweets just always just the
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: tweets just always, you know, make me, make me giggle. Hey,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Ashley again, congratulations to Jojo Fletcher. Uh. Her and Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers were supposed to be getting married this year, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: as we saw an interview with Chris Harrison that has
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  Speaker 1: been delayed due to covid um. But we celebrate Jojo.
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  Speaker 1: She is a tremendous human with a kind soul, a
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  Speaker 1: great heart. She's hilarious, she's one of a kind. She's
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  Speaker 1: somebody that we both care about a ton uh and
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: as somebody that is iconic in the bachelor world and
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  Speaker 1: will be forever. So Hey, congratulations with Jojo, and then
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: also congratulations with Jojo and Jordan's on their future relationship
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: and their future marriage. Hey, Ashley, great podcast, You're the best.
• 55:37
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