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Tova Noel And The Transcript From Her Congressional Testimony (Part 12) (6/25/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where we left off with tovin Owell and her chat
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  with Congress Question. I'm going to reference the DOJ OIG
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  report once more. It said that the MCC security cameras
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  in the Shoe failed to record any live footage starting
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  on July twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, and that this malfunction
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  was not discovered by MCC staff until August eighth, twenty nineteen.
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  MCC staff, however, then failed to take any action to
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  fix this malfunction. Therefore, the security cameras did not record
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  anything on August ninth or August tenth, the day of
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  mister Epstein's death. It did, however, continue to broadcast live feed.
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  It also says the report that MCC staff obtained the
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  replacement hard drives necessary to repair the security camera on
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  August ninth, but did not complete the repairs to restore
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  recording functionality. I know that you mentioned this, but did
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  you know that the security cameras were not working? Answer
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  no question, And you don't know who was in charge
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  of making sure that the security camera system was repaired?
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  Answer no, question did you ever speak with anyone oh
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  about this failure on August ninth or August tenth? Answer no,
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  because I wasn't aware that it wasn't working. Question Okay,
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  do you have any reason to believe mcc staff purposefully
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  or intentionally did not repair the cameras prior to or
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  at the time of Epstein's death. Answer I don't have
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  any reason to believe, but I don't know. Question are
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  you aware that the FBI conducted interviews on August twenty
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  eighth and twenty nineteen of inmates that were present the
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  night of Epstein's death? Answer no question. Are you aware
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  of any allegations that were made by any Shoe inmates
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  around that night? Answer no question. Did you ever hear
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  that One inmate that was in the shoe here recounted
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  a series of remarks that he heard the morning of
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  mister Epstein's death. Answer no question. This inmate recalls hearing
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  the officer's shout breathe, breathe, and then he allegedly heard
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  an officer say, dude, you killed that dude. Have you
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  ever heard anything like that? Answer no question. There's also
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  a quote that he said he heard the female guard
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  reply with quote. If he's dead, we're going to cover
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  it up, and he is going to have an alibi
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  in my officers. The inmate also said that the entire
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  wing of the prison overheard these remarks, and after learning
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  that mister Epstein had died, the inmates were saying miss
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  Noel killed. Jeffrey answered, never heard any of that. Question
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  did you ever hear any inmates make any accusation about
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  mister Epstein's death? Answer? No question. What's your response? What
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  do you think of these allegations? Answer of that question? Yes, answer,
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  I mean, I'm not aware of anything like that being said,
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  but they may say anything. Question. Thank you, answer, you're welcome. Question.
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  We discussed earlier that you altered the counts and rounds
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  on the reports. Were you ever criminally charged with falsifying
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  those prison records? Answer? No, Foy altered accounts? What do
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  you mean altered? Fire brand? Fireband? Excuse me that you
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  signed off that you had completed them when in fact
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  you had not completed them. Foy Okay, Noel, yeah, no question,
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  saying that more accounts and rounds were done then were
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  actually done? Noel, no question. Were you ever I'm sorry,
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  I'm going to back up were you ever criminally charged
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  with falsifying BOP records? Answer Noel, No, mister Foy, yes
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  you were, you were criminally charged? Noel okay, Foy, right,
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  I mean question were charges brought against you? Answer? Yes?
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  Question that's what she's asking. Noel okay, yes. So how
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  can you believe that tovin Oel is telling the truth
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  when she can't even get the basics right? And this
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  is the same thing we've seen time and time again
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  with people that have come before Congress to talk about
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  the Knight Epstein died. So if you want to believe
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  the narrative, go for it. My goal is to provide
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  you with enough information from these official sources so that
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  you can come to your decision with as much information
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  available to you as possible. Question charges were brought against
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  you for? Answer yes? Question how many counts? Foy? We
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  don't remember? Question okay, And what was the result of
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  those charges being brought against you? Answer Noel, Foy dismissed.
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  Noel dismissed. Question how come it was dismissed? Foy asked
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  the government they're the ones who dismissed it. Noel, I
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  read in the report discussion off record Noel comes back.
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  So there was a a Noel prosecution agreement to dismiss it,
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  and as a result of that it got to dismissed. Question. So,
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  just to be clearer for the record, you were criminally
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  charged with falsifying BOP records and that case those charges
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  were dismissed. Correct answer, correct question, Thank you. I think
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  we're wrapping up one hour's worth of questions, but I
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  have just one final question for you. Is there anything
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  that we have not covered or touched on today that
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  you would like to provide the committee in the furtherance
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  of its investigation into the crimes of Epstein and Maxwell.
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  Answer no, fair bend. I think we can go off
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  the record back on question, Miss Noel, just a few
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  more questions for you and then we'll get you on
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  your way. Answer, thank you. Question. When we left off,
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  we were working through a timeline of the night of
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  the ninth the morning of the tenth. It sounds, I
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  think pretty clear, but just confirming for us when we
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  talk about counts from twelve am to three am and
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  five am counts, those did not occur. Is that right? Answer?
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  Correct question? And it sounded from the IG report like
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  maybe around the time of twelve am count or somewhere
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  in that window, there was communication with Control about adjusting
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  the numbers. You kind of mentioned this earlier seventy three
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  or seventy two. What's your recollection of that mix up? Answer?
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  To the best of my recollection, the count couldn't clear
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  because the number was off, and I think it had
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  something to do with that inmate that was not returning.
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  So Control basically told me what the number is supposed
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  to be? Question? Got it? Were you the one that
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  talked to Control? Answer? I honestly don't remember. Could have
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  been question all right, great, Noel. So there was no
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  count conducted in the shoe, but upstairs on ten South
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  I did count with Adams. Question I've got that as well,
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  and I'll get to that in the timeline. Thank you.
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  As far as rounds, maybe just between your arrival at
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  four pm and your ten pm count, did any rounds
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  occur in that period? Answer? A few of them as
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  far as I can remember. I don't know. Question any
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  recollection of around what time or around how many of
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  You're just not sure? Answer? Not sure? Question okay? And
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  then after ten or ten thirty whenever that counting occurred
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  through let's say, delivering breakfast. Were the rounds that occurred? Then?
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  Answer no question. There was a sign, a physical sign
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  described in the IG report. It sounds like it was
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  posted to the shoe officer one of these shoe officer computers,
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  and the sign said, I'll just read it. It's one
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  sentence mandatory rounds must be conducted every thirty minutes on
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  Epstein as per God. And it sounded like at least
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  a day and an evening watch officer agreed that the
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  sign was on the computer on that day and night.
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  Do you have any recollection of ever seeing that? Answer
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  I don't recall the sign. Question even if it wasn't
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  that night ever seeing that sign? Answer sign, no question.
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  It would be tough to answer. But do you have
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  any sense on what the as per God could be
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  referenced to? Answer no question. You talked earlier about the
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  MCC way, could I just ask your opinion? It sounds
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  like a lot of the issues we described today were widespread,
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  lack of training, understaffed over time. What's your perspective? Do
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  you think that the MCC was well run from a
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  management point of view? Answer no question. What's your perspective
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  on the extent to which it was either facing challenges
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  or was poorly run or needed to be fixed in
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  certain ways. Answer. I later learned a lot of things
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  that wasn't working, like, for example, the camera system that
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  would have been like an upper management thing. But as
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  far as the shortages, it kind of makes it hard
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  because sometimes management have less to work with, and when
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  you have less to work with, you're doing things that's
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  not supposed to be done because sometimes you have one
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  staff member work in two units. You can't be in
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  two places at one time, but there's just no manpower.
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  And as far as what I learned also is this
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  has been an ongoing issue and the union has asked
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  for help or asked for more staff, but they don't
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  get it. So I don't know that it was poorly
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  I ran because they just didn't have the people that
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  to do the job. Question Thank you. I think you
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  said in your statement with the IG, and I think
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  a moment ago that you went up to ten South
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  to help the guard do his or her account. Question
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  counts maybe both three and five? Is that correct? Answer?
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  Correct question? Was that ordinary in your experience? Answer? Yes? Question?
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  And why would that be? Answer? Because shortages? Again, there's
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  one officer up there. So usually because there is two
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  in the shoe, somebody will cross count with the ten
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  South officer. Question would it have been normal for there
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  to be one officer up in ten South or was
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  that an understaffing problem as well? Was that supposed to
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  be two officers in ten South? Answer? I know it's
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  supposed to be too intense South question, but it was
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  one that night. Answer it was one all the time?
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  Question got it? Did that officer in ten South come
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  ask you for help doing his or her I don't
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  know counts? Answer? No question? How did you end up
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  doing it that you were helping the officer do the counts? Question?
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  Because that's just I know that somebody from nine South
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  goes up to ten South to count. Question presumably ordinarily
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  somebody in the shoe is also that midnight count and
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  these other officers around the same time? Answer correct question?
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  What ended up being the difference as to why one
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  was happening and why the other was not? Answer so clearly,
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  I wanted to count because I went to ten South,
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  but Thomas was sleeping, so I didn't count nine South,
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  but I went to ten South to count his unit
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  because he wanted to count. He was, so I counted
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  up there and I came back down to my unit. Question,
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  got it? He was awake as far as you could tell.
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  Answer exactly. Question a lieutenant visited the shoe around four
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  am to perform around or what do you call it
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  when a lieutenant? Is that account or around? Answer? To
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  be honest, I don't know. I just know she comes
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  around and supposed to do a walk through, But I
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  don't know as far as for the lieutenant what they
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  classify it as. Question do you recall was that around
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  four am? Answer? Around that time? Question? And is it
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  right that the lieutenant went up and did a count
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  or around in ten south but not actually in the shoe?
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  Is that correct? Answer? To be honest, I know she
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  didn't do it in the shoe, but I can't recall
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  if she did ten self. All right, folks, we're gonna
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  wrap up right here, and in the next episode, we're
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  gonna pick up where we left off. All the information
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  that goes with this episode can be found in the
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  description box.