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Construcción Plural - Programa 1129 · Construcción Plural - Radio Trend Topic

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Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
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season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts.
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Listen to him on radio train topic. Believe me if I understood correctly with
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the meetings of the fares to the tariffs scythe all the flies. People run
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out of money not buying. Now Drane Bacdad told me, although you look
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like an economic commentator, you see that you understand the minister. That'
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s what I call a thing. People are drier than country cookie. Not
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only can he not buy dollars, but he can buy us morfe and he
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can buy us remedy. You can' t buy pastia, you can'
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t buy pints, you can' t comb, you can' t comb
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anything. It' s small details. So many told me while giving me
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a wafer that said I don' t have stereo. Sonse small detail of
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home microeconomics. What do we care about in macroeconomics? Ta Ceame that in
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a short time we will change the face of the poor country will disfigure it
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even more notes Cabron. The only thing we ask for is a small effort
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today so tomorrow it does so that tomorrow we can have in Argentina the power
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with which our elders dreamed. Of course trying a small sacrifice today for TiVo,
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a small sacrifice today for our records to have tomorrow they inherit a large
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round part of warm, quiet Minister, listen to me since I was little,
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that I have heard that you have to sacrifice nothing of the future.
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The national motto has always been to fuck yourself today to enjoy tomorrow and each
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other. But the future, by decision, is the future that never comes.
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It' s just that my friends are good afternoon. Here we are
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starting a new week in plural construction, thirteen two inflation data from the city
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of Buenos As. On Friday it will be known by the intec at national
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level. It is said that because of the effect of gas and especially in
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the amba, in federal capital, but in Buenos Aires follow the two little
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ones of eleven of eleven or twelve of this thirteen two of cava we can
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go to a ten five. According to the Government, allo caputo that one
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sees difficult. Rather it may be close to eleven or twelve, as I
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speak with consultants, or I am told eleven twelve. Indeed, based in
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April and still in May it is down quite eight nine. There' s
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the blessed digit that the government is going to sell almost as good as I
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don' t know how to win the football World Cup. Not that it
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' s still very high, but good. The issue is slowing down.
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Although Milay already speaks of base to a false bot, so man, so
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attached to nets that it also remains obside, although I don' t know
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remains so much in obs because you play already we will talk to our interviewed
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nunutitos always plays with half truths or lie this deflation, not with that jars
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of juice. I think they' ve heard. Opsai Caputo left you opside.
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Miley Ebstein, an economist close to my law to the President got angry
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I mean, he' s never going to buy any more junk. Well,
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he misses it. So good. There we are. I find it
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interesting to highlight statements by Tarrio Carrio, which I would not give him.
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I' ve said it more than once. Nothing to govern, but to
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analyze a lot. We' re facing the biggest attack on the middle class
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in history. Infoe says twenty definitions of quinsac above. He spoke this morning
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with the Korea Jorge Lana Fons and at this hour with a blue that rises
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just ten pesitos. He' s still under the nine- year- old.
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I was counting on Vick in a thousand thirty- nine. Says a
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holt or in dispute await the draft law basses with a mixture of mistrust and
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strong spectacle. As long as the truth has been urinated and the rain is
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coming, or it' s not going to be too strong. If there
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' s any doubt coming, apparently he' s got a week and cell
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phones have weeks. Let' s say hello to our first guest of the
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afternoon, to Don Carlos for a taste with so Carlos how he' s
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going, how about, how he' s going to do it. Good
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afternoon. Well, well, thanks for sticking around. Okay. I have
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a kitten. He' s about to meet and he' s writing that
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I' m home for twenty years and ten months. That' s about
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twenty- one. I hope a sanita arrives next Friday in twelve. But
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you' re almost the same, too. I mean for a cat.
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Being twenty- one years old and crazy is almost like being a hundred-
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and- a- half years old and it' s pretty good, I
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touch wood, but you' re consultant Julia, we' re also celebrating
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a thousand years. Don' t tell us by the way pass the chingo
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a little bit to see, as I' ve done it in der is
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to open our birthday month. The consultant was founded in the year ninety-
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one, when the sharing began, so it is easy to remember it from
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me In fact, now thirty- three years I occupied the profession. I
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turn thirty- eight, always five more, because also in an April of
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the eighty- six I started an adventure that I didn' t know what
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it was called, but that was actually this in political consulting. So we
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' re here. We are happy, we are satisfied and we survive like
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this. Not many people tell us in Argentina that is not a little by
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little. Say thirty- three or thirty- three to sing to the retrupee,
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to envy. No, so let' s all congratulate you. One
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of the nicest to see. We vote liberalism, because the President has it
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with the liberal country. We voted pragmatism. How much do these types of
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statements stick to those permanent prosecutor Luisa got by declaring today with the NATA.
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For example, we are facing the greatest attack on the middle class in history.
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Today' s clarin cover as caputo toto, strangely or not so strangely
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depending on the numbers they will read from surveys. He goes out to attack
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the prepaid and defend now for what we see in the propaganda has to do
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with a regulatory nude. We have a seventy that' s under discussion.
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It comes out to attack the prepaid depending on the middle class toto caputo and
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is in the central stage title of the best- selling Argentine newspaper, because
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every time they see a menlodiatos, etcetera, etcetera. I say to what
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extent we are in this sense, some bullets are coming in. The Government
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is afraid of that. In the middle class, let' s add the
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light ballot, the gar ballot, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. I'
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ve already spent them, even if it' s mild, but obviously,
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it happens. Let' s not say. We find a balance between approval
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and disapproval, which is not bad for the Government, given the crisis it
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faces and the harshness of the measures it has to take. But, let
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' s say, things are happening that are not pleasant and that, besides,
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as much as you agree with the hype or the need for measures,
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etcetera. Anyway, let' s say you' re very shocked if you
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don' t have prepaid, because, well, the vast majority of people
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don' t have prepaid either. But if you don' t get that,
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you get paid for this cream with some edibles, etcetera. Or you
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saw that the extraction has a concrete numerical impact and has a psychic impact.
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Let' s not say, I mean, people have, let' s
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say, they' re accumulating fear with this issue. But well, it
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is also absolutely true that there is no alternative, that is that people turn
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around and then there is a solution, because precisely Miley wins, because the
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two coalitions of two thousand nineteen failed in the government and, on the other
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hand, because we had talked about it a lot of times. Last year
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there was a very clear awareness of the crisis. It' s serious.
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It will take measures that we do not like and the results will touch on
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arriving, which I would tell you in honor of keeping the expectation in hope.
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It seems to me that for now much of society says let' s
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see what happens. It doesn' t mean he' s happy, but
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it' s also true that it' s too much for many people to
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have to admit that this is worse to the remedy than the disease. I
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' m not saying what it means. Let' s say and then where
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he' s going to see that one seems very interesting to me. You
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' re going to make a reading that how I vote this as change and
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flower of change. I also want to see if I can play you well.
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I want to keep holding on a little bit, because it' s
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not something that can go wrong. And the truth that it was self-
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critical to criticize me for saying and to the truth was the worst remedy than
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the disease. And something also done in these, even if it was fifty
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- fifty that I believe to be the truth. Some people get higher up
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there' s some of this. It' s fifty- fifty. It
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' s clear, which isn' t bad. I say pits you as
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totally. I still relatively do, but that' s how I put it.
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I think in the article the other weeks, a couple of weeks ago,
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it' s the son to believe. I' m not saying much
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of that approval. It' s the son Creer. I think we'
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re on our way. It seems to me that the measures and, well,
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they are hard, but necessary. At the same time and you just
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mentioned it with the caputo theme that people say good, but it went out
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of hand. The prices. They should put a little more control around there,
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which one would say good, but how to control let' s say
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if it' s messy price this good, okay, so let' s
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say a little bit. It' s the part of the food I like
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and the part of the food I don' t like. That' s
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not what it' s like to leave when I' m capitol against the
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prepadas. I find it totally unbelievable. I hit him on my side and
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I say but you free him. Your government has released the decree of in
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a seventy pass with the other half of the society that supports, that says
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that well, look toto has taken note and, that is, it is
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good that he now beat the prepaid ones and this one notice it well.
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In the middle class, or I say we follow from this fifty- fifty
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of one old- fashioned reading and the other and the other part the other
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reading, let' s say, I mean capitalize on this statement. Or
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I say ah now it says it how you read society. Let' s
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see. I think first of all, I think it is in favour of
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the desire for harmony with society. Not that this thing went out of hand.
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Not now, well, okay, so what do you do? You
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put a top on it together and tell it boy down by 20 percent.
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I say because yes, if we' re going to stay lying, every
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practical serves nothing to not totally. If people say well, yes, the
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Minister spoke, but in the end nothing happened. Then nothing happened. No.
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Then you end up paying with another one exactly, so it seems to
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me that this is the issue, because, above all, with the issue
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of health. I say because you can even lower the quality of what you
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eat. No, but the health thing is static I say because you well,
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you can stop drinking wine, you can stop eating this ur what I
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know. But if something happens to you, you have no alternative and it
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' s too much for the middle class. It' s psychologically very shocking
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to end up in the public feet because it has no money. No,
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but one thing is that it' s also the public hospital with need and
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another I say with determination and another because you have no choice. Much has
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been said, interpreted, and macrism itself has done so. It follows that
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what hit them was wild tariff increases. We' re on another stage.
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Miley raised one or total explosion of the systemla. You speak in voice together
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for the change already totally broken the hit very Peronism, I say, Oh,
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it does not impact then in that way, with having bara javigar again,
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for example, the issue of tariffs. Let' s just say to
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put a punch in Miley' s criability. Yes, first of all,
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the situation is different in the two thousand fifteen or two thousand sixteen, no,
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and the crisis is infinitely more serious, which favors Miley because it obviously
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gives the surgeon the chance to say no. If not, I gave her
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all the anesthesia she could if it hurts or she did it to her.
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This is a first place. Secondly, my law serves to highlight the crisis
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permanently in order to justify the harshness of the adjustment. Independently I always need
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or don' t eat me, let' s say clearly, but this,
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let' s say, serves the government as it uses. Then,
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well, the social consequences go the other way and then let' s also
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say the fact that Macrie but took trouble and let' s not say if
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he didn' t take any benefit from what he did because the rates looked
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expensive and, on the other hand, what happened to him was that he
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didn' t see it as with enough decision one might say good. But
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if the expensive rates I had to somehow moderate them and then, to avoid
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saying a greater evil. But good. But then, then the consequence,
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the conclusion that draws Milay. I rightly believe the point of view of the
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strategy, that is, look, Mr Soy, a huge crisis is going
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to have to be laid down and that justifies this surgery. Without anesthesia let
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' s say Macri didn' t cheer us up. The weather was another
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no, that is, the weather was infinitely different let' s say that
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I think I don' t remember now, I mean, but I think
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the real numbers indicated that Cristina' s last year of inflation. I think
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he was around for about twenty- five percent of the tractor mule. Yes,
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I think that the disaster he received the first month of two hundred percent
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of Mille and had twenty- five years ago that the inflation of a month
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in a year today was totally different. Totally different. And also because the
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matrix of the pro itself was a moderate right center. Let' s not
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say it was nothing on the extremes, precisely to differentiate from Bichlerín to see
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what we said we' re not original. My law put a ton bomb
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that is an emergent divided together by calcium, which has the funds of the
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Pasadil Montis and peri obviously beaten. Which one I go to is mine to
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eighty- three, with the passage of Alfonsín, for setting a stage as
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a political consultant of almost forty years, without our history. I almost said
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beyond this scenario. I insist on the bomb. How surprised you are that
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people keep banking, that people are going to happen that half society, or
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most of it balancedly in society. Let us have passed from a center left
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that go between folk songs, that go to glory of the state, of
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the public, a not so much with meritocracy, to this one that seems
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to be cult of individualism, of the ground scratched, of rudeness, where
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then we find elements with chain, with cateran. But belligerence is part,
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probably in another format and accentuated with Miley, but also something that bothered quinerism.
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I say as a political consultant, there are almost four decades you saw
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it coming from the fact that people were going to bank you still surprise you.
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You think that somehow this decants later, but dissatisfaction decants equally. They
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did not lower their intention and with that the poorest and even less employed people,
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with fewer changas, will be banking it. What you' ll grow
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a little hard look first, it doesn' t catch my attention. Let
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' s say endurance. No, and that' s why we just talked.
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We saw it a lot last year and I said eye I would be
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cautious, because it doesn' t seem to me that you automatically make an
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adjustment and go out the window. Let' s not say a little bit
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by contradicting what Mr Duran Barba said about whether you' re on time.
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That' s the adjusting government and then there' s no way out of
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it. It said fran Durán bar Recremo that it said no candidate that proposed
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juste. Then Burry would rub it, because no singer would propose fair and
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it' s going to be fine. Okay. It' s the opposite.
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Not good. So let' s say that transferred to the government,
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made it moderate to macri Let' s say this is another situation also because
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the situation is more serious. That' s absolutely true. Point one.
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Second point. I believe that if everything failed, your tolerance is also different,
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because what did you happen to me, what is your table of salvation.
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And then it doesn' t ring a bell, too. Let'
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s say there' s like a glove, which doesn' t mean it
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' s the endurance, even if this solves the blank check. Not sure,
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there' s no blank check entirely. I also don' t think
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this is an ideological description of the model. It seemed to me that liberalism
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should be spoken of. The beginning is not that there is an option for
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the release. So it seems to me that it is pragmatic in the sense
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if it results is all right, but if it does not doubt result it
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is not a question of but if we are on the way to the end
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of time, I do not say, it seems that would be a mistake.
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Let' s say conceptualization and, on the other hand, keeping in
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mind that the two or three situations actually, I say the southern plane,
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the compatibility and the departure of dual with the Vania were situations in which,
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under inflation quickly in the recovery of the salary, allowed a boom of consumption
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and then we passed to happiness, so to speak. That' s a
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question today, because we don' t know if this is it. As
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usual, you see short that this is we fell, but we' re
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going to bounce a lot. If this is one u that this is we
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fall, we will contribute not so strong, but we will grow or if
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this is one that this is Argentina falls slows inflation, but it enters another
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negative stage, which is a hypervesence stability, some stability with greater poverty and
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so on or for apolyzing. Let' s say, but stability, because
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don' t forget that if you have solid levels of poverty, let'
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s not even say because we already have them, but if you add that,
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even higher levels of unemployment means directly that there is no income. No,
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then let' s say the wheels. That may happen if the word
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is fashionable and will stop being inflation and become unemployment. That' s not
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why I' m telling you how to say, but unemployment, let'
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s say I can. He can give you crossovers with your wall and law
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In fact, let' s say the Monetary Fund. He' s warning
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you. This is not the Monetary Fund. It tells you to look at
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eye, because if you stretch me so much the circulation of currency can pass
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a stage where you enter a perven section of which it is more difficult to
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get out, because neither is it that we are going to pass a serious
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inflation and it will say good. So, there, yes, I'
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m starting to monetize the economy and pick up consumption. You don' t
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have an eight around. Per cent monthly inflation, which is an achievement,
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but let' s say if you' re limited to practicing the economy,
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then look at that as an unprecedented scenario. It is an unpublished scenario for
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Argentine. Miley' s style of communication in Baru already speaks with half truths.
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I mean, it' s liberalism. For example, He is a
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dogmatic. It is also a pragmatic part To him I say the law likes
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society or listens when he says no liberalism, that is, when my law
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fills his vocabulary, his account of liberalism and we said that society did not
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become liberal it has to be a basis of the right- wing belt,
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not trointa, twenty- five to thirty. I mean, people don'
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t care, because they want inflation to drop, not recession, and everything
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or anyone else notices it out of focus, and if this kind of thing
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doesn' t free me, I want inflation to go have a life more
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or less. I mean, I mean, let' s be very gross,
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they' re turning outside the jar or not right now they don'
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t look like that because they' re not doing badly in terms of public
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opinion. Let' s not say ideological appeals, not society or listen to
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them and so listen to them. I don' t doubt it. We
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measured. You saw that the President, when he was a hundred days old
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that a colleague did, made him a well- known report that I think
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the government converted him. Let' s say in a three- minute video.
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Something like that saying. We are lowering inflation, we are lowering insecurity,
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all in spite of politics. I know the Argentines are suffering well.
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I would say that most, including the people themselves, who support it and
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who believe that the hype is the right one, the video didn' t
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go mostly well. Let' s say why. Because the video lacks the
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attitude of my law, lacks empathy, clearly you don' t lack social
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sensitivity and why it doesn' t work on it. I say it has
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so much to do is in communication, in networks it' s part of
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not interested me. He' s dressed and dismissed That' s a good
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one. Look at the truth one thing, I mean, and the truth
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is that the plant is super populated. Unfortunately, we have had to reduce
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and another one outside or adorn almost in pride, that is, taking weight
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per test. That' s a little what people buy, because in communication,
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for example, you don' t work on this empathy that I'
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m going to say because it doesn' t suit me I say no.
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First, first, well, the character doesn' t turn out the character
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doesn' t sane good, but you as yourself, you can coerce him
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for what. But no, because b the vehemence, is part of the
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political concept. It' s not a style problem, it' s a
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little vehemently, but it' s trying to do that. I mean,
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it' s part of the same thing. Vemence marks the aggressiveness that justifies
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the size of the adjustment. Now that doesn' t necessarily say, it
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has effects on public opinion. I insist it' s much less to the
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coast. In the long run, don' t have results. And,
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on the other hand, the fact that it' s okay for them to
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throw in a neok, to cut with corruption, contracts on the whole insurance
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issue, etcetera. That' s all right, but where a lot of
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people start running out of work, and that' s already a picture that
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nobody gets. When in my law that is then with a recital, a
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cell phone bot falls prices, but then it turns out that it was a
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false account and it had fallen into it nothing less than before. Caputo and
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it looks like this tahl leifstein, like I think you heard lincho saying he
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' s not going to buy dio kills you in jumbo. Well, he
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misses it. I say nothing. Neither are people in another. Let'
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s say they don' t affect me either because I say a public authority
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or it plays so much with the network or it' s part of its
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construction, the half truths, half lies, and so we already know it
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and so we let it run look. First let' s say the topic
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of networks. On the one hand, he screws up our nets. It
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is not a subject, no, if there is an observation, yes,
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it is a subject of observation, of public opinion in the President' s
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obsession with networks. And that one, those who support it, does not
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like it either, because they believe that we are going to see to be
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like this, distracting from the task, blurring from the problems, or from
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the problems themselves. Not even on their own. Let' s say the
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same, but I tell you in the child to want, because in reality,
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when you say you want dollarization, no, we don' t like
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privatization. And well it depends, but it' s very aggressive. He
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should talk more, because otherwise, if he doesn' t build the councils,
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he won' t be able to get the dnu laws out and I
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don' t know, because he had too many issues on him and the
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networks and it seems to me that all that is being distracted is also said
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by the audience that supports him. I say no, and the broken state,
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because we passed a state present in the discursive, the story pinerite and
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with people who needed it the most, they me who did whatever it was
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to a zero state. Well, again, the state is the enemy said
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yaran three hours with fantino a friendly report again of the state of the criminal
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blah blah. I say the one who goes to a small room in a
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public hospital, the one who attends such an elbow, I say those people
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puyla, but not again correct milestone that I want to understand also does not
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care that in Miley put against the state in which this same person is in
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has to hold, let' s say, he does not care about porta
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va the inflation of the disaster that the others and others made. I want
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to understand. No, yes, totally. First, this takes four months,
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so, well let' s see what it' s about. It
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' s not a first point. Secondly, I believe that there are even
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people who do not support it, who do not want the Guillerism to return,
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which is also an element in favour of it. Third, until people
24:36
finally drop the tab on what it' s about. This is going to
24:40
take time, too. Then I say it seems to me that from that
24:44
point of view one must be cautious with the understanding of the rhythm, to
24:52
which society assimilates what is happening. We have difficulty interpreting, projecting for the
25:00
most part you said and you see it I say with people walking quietly in
25:07
middle class in the lower semidia. Yes, but the cuckoos did, but
25:10
they threw it out but I say good, but you have a retired pope.
25:12
Yeah, of course it' s killing him in others. I mean
25:15
cousin, it' s still okay, it' s true in context.
25:18
It' s little, it' s four months, no, but I
25:22
say anti- Quinerism, until when it' s going to continue to be
25:26
associated or gymism is going to have taken over, it' s going to
25:29
continue to associate Quislerism with Peronism, because I say Peronism has historically been the
25:32
alternative and says it' s going to come from twenty years of quinerism.
25:33
This is going to be very difficult to take off that backpack or that domain
25:36
over. While, indeed, I believe that the few truths he threw at
25:38
Jermila, he who has whom he is already seen in electoral terms, no
25:41
longer runs. It presents what I present to you and I say it is
25:44
a minority. Such dissociation may be very difficult and, if it can,
25:51
face a post- Poquimerist Peronism. With this other song, very passing,
25:55
with time, but I say fu quinerismo, peronismo, how we are.
26:00
Look, I' d tell you that chiginarism is contemporary Peronism, so let
26:06
' s say it' s like getting your nickname out. I' d
26:11
say it' s half, impossible, not impossible, and because why should
26:18
we say someone who' s not to say a convinced, an affiliate,
26:22
a militant, etcetera. I should say no, this is guislerism, but
26:26
Peronism was different. And yet what a Peronism. The question that everyone makes
26:30
you of the one that is said to be outside the usual policy of men
26:36
in, that of the kilchers whose. So, the mass one, then
26:41
let' s say there. I see a lot of difficulty in taking the
26:45
sack off and the other thing to comment on is that Cristina worn out,
26:49
but it' s still. Let' s say the main figure with a
26:55
lot we' ll probably say already with many people who don' t even
26:59
see it as an electoral alternative, as they see it as a simple ideological
27:00
reference. I' d tell you, and if there are no alternatives,
27:07
how' s new. If there' s not a figure, a face
27:08
that tells you, I don' t laugh at some jar crying that I
27:11
decided to go back to the pjo, something like that, something like that
27:15
a centrist of Cordoba, let' s say only in that case, but
27:22
I would have to go back, I would have to process the rest I
27:27
would have to accept that I see it difficult, the truth that saw it
27:32
difficult, but then, because I say then my law celebrates has the great
27:34
handicap of part of half society in favor, so and the alternative lack.
27:36
And then where. If you tell me, you go to me or what
27:40
you say, which is very good to say ginnism, is contemporary Peronism.
27:44
Hence, the alternative cannot arise a priori. Where the alternative can come from.
27:48
We' re destroying four months of everything you want. That' s
27:53
not what I think anymore. First, I believe that what alternates yes,
27:57
yes, the worst thing that could happen to Argentina is that Miley goes wrong
28:00
and we enter into a political crisis of emptiness, because with whom he governs,
28:07
with what alternative, that is not the situation of the two thousand one,
28:11
when Dualde arrived. That' s on the one hand. Secondly,
28:15
I would say that, in fact, I say one, when it puts
28:21
the main political figures of Argentina, the main ones. Then, I don
28:22
' t have to make a list of ten among several, but you have
28:26
to put three. Let' s say, obviously it' s my law
28:30
is Cristina and Macrit Macri Cristina, extremely worn out, with difficulty, with
28:37
much difficulty to be competitive electorally, with which this is a situation that also
28:41
helps my law, for people to look sideways and say and well, let
28:45
' s wait to see how Maccri tamor let' s say no, dead,
28:53
no, but because he steals Miley' s path and robs the right
28:57
and gene in an electoral breath. I see him hard in alia ros but
29:00
he won, but not add a single space. Not sure. If milal
29:04
goes well, the pro has to go in line, I say because what
29:08
he' s going to do. Well, we have some nuances, but
29:14
we applaud go forward, as Dietir said yesterday, less bad than Millay won,
29:18
because if we hadn' t been able to do this very well,
29:23
entirely, very frankly. And if it' s wrong, how it wasn
29:29
' t. Because for people this subject that is inside, Patricia Wulrich,
29:33
is a subject that the nuances we see, for people yes, but they
29:37
are already inside. If we' re locked up for the one who'
29:44
s against it, we won' t even talk because Vulvicsh and Macrison are
29:45
the same. Good for that, but then promcri let' s say it
29:49
' s complicated. Also obviously, that there' s no decision and say
29:52
well, not my own Leily went wrong. We will make an alternative more
29:56
moderate, more pro impossible and possible, not especially when you are trying to
30:02
convince him, to be more inside count. Obviously, that complicates the process
30:08
absolutely and lubricated them. He made polarizing bets, betting effectively, that Miley
30:15
hit him in Mega mileaille pegl comes out happy, I guess the net,
30:21
something on the side of the center with part of the Peronism. I can
30:22
imagine. I don' t know what to pick up your company and governors,
30:29
some light tickers, but he illustrated a character. Let' s say
30:33
it was blurred in public opinion and still doesn' t win its territory,
30:36
making it very difficult to be a leader. If you don' t rule
30:38
your territory. He' s always the opponent in his own district. So
30:44
a lot of that complicates him, with a lot of difficulty driving radicalism,
30:48
because medicalism. Today, let us say the most important are the five governors,
30:52
who are what we have of troops from already a rather party bloc and
30:59
some other details. That, on the one hand, liked it I find
31:02
it difficult. The more I think we' re still having the same kind
31:04
of difficulty. Let' s say character of personal prestige, I mean,
31:07
but with a lot of difficulty projecting himself into politics. In particular, Pichetto,
31:12
a little figure with not very well known to the public and or valued,
31:18
but not very well known. And then, well, it' s
31:22
important for politics, but it' s very difficult for it' s going
31:26
to take a lot of kind to settle in society. He doesn' t
31:30
rule it out, I mean, but that takes time. There' s
31:32
no more. And good, I mean, the best images in Argentina are
31:37
Milady Shabel, Patricia Wolvic and Suma. And that is that Aretti, but
31:41
well, for now he' s a silent leader, Villa Ruel as you
31:48
passed it you said there may be some cycle. Hey, the showdown is
31:52
clearly below the line, but I' m saying below the pombro what we
31:55
' re gonna call it. There may be some future Tyron. Let'
31:59
s say I don' t know how to use it goes more or less
32:02
well it holds up and with this alternative lack, there may be noise there
32:07
or Villaruel won' t take your feet of dish at least to you an
32:13
eventual or nothing, Molemon, a madness, a candidacy for the reelection of
32:16
Milay or of the carinas themselves, that is to say Villarroelve I want to
32:21
see Villa would expect Calm is young his time. Or can it be a
32:22
conflict in the future in three four years? But to see it can be
32:25
a conflict and it can be a conflict before three or four years depends on
32:29
how you are going to see it little, because I think Billarmo I speculates.
32:37
If it goes well, well, I was vila contributions given with my
32:40
nuances and if it goes wrong it is and good let' s think something
32:45
else. Let' s just say I don' t get the impression that
32:52
villain bell would like to visualize himself as an alternative. If the Milay process
32:55
fails, as I say, I share the ideas, but not like all
33:00
the ways, I don' t compare the styles, etcetera. Alternative institutional
33:02
successor. I mean, let' s put Milay down in a year'
33:07
s time that he doesn' t take both positions, but that we'
33:13
re clear or figure not Miley, not for sure. If Milay doesn'
33:15
t do so well and it seems that his election bet would be risky,
33:21
it' s not that he would like Villaruel to be his Let' s
33:27
say the one who raises the flag and moves forward. But let' s
33:30
definitely say Villa tries to say good again. So let' s say an
33:36
angelos, not Alfonsín, a critic in the government fails this critics and now
33:43
and if Miley' s doing moderately well, he stands up with a certain
33:46
chance. We' re flying legit. Pre I mean, on stage,
33:50
unlike my Villarroel law, he' ll be waiting patiently for eight years of
33:53
management of miles or three or four years from now. You can raise it
34:00
or not. Now it' s my turn or I want my turn.
34:02
There may be noise there. He' ll be able to finish up some
34:07
extreon and say no. Watch out that Pillarroll can cut itself and we have
34:10
two space candidates in the selections within three years to see. I think if
34:16
Miley' s doing well, there' s not much discussion, not about
34:22
or, because it' s also going to be who' s going to
34:27
finance a campaign for you. If you' re the Vice President against a
34:30
President who read her well, that sounds half b We don' t want
34:34
so much lin alex and he' s doing well, he' s not
34:36
doing well, he can' t go, I say, but he'
34:42
s kind of not doing well enough for people to say good. I give
34:43
you another period in that sense. Now it' s going to barbarian,
34:46
but what. But it holds a hope, it holds an expectation. No
34:51
Juan, he says I' m the second best- looking president in the
34:54
world. This one bounces again. We' re tied up for Mauri and
35:00
everyone who looks nice and my aunt kills herself. Rizony finds out. That
35:04
' s because I say there are things that say they' re pas that
35:07
look like a showman. I' m saying how he started and did the
35:09
drama and I' m telling you to be the dumb- ass president caputo,
35:14
he called him the best president in the world. I' d say
35:15
the planet. But I say and say that I am the President who first
35:19
cost someone and then he said it in an interview and I am the President
35:22
with the second best- looking President around the world, which is not real.
35:27
No, but I say no again we' re still in the same
35:30
straw. Yeah,' cause that' s not the point. I do
35:36
not say the theme is to see for now I leave you, follow us,
35:43
follow us philosophy, pancho de la molina, Ga follow, try to
35:47
solve the problems says some pavadas. Well, bad luck being said he'
35:51
s like that. See, you saw what he' s like. Well,
35:53
nothing, the problem is that if the thing goes into a mess and
35:58
the people, tell me about everyone, that would kill something that obviously doesn
36:02
' t bother you again go to first the results, especially the economic ones,
36:07
and we' ll see what happens to unemployment or recession for how much
36:10
premium is totally securitized the theme of styles. But there are a lot of
36:15
people, or many voters, who are a lot of citizens who don'
36:20
t agree, who support, but who have expectations for him, but who
36:22
don' t support him. The style is a little measured. That'
36:25
s right, that' s right, that' s right, that'
36:29
s right, that' s right, that' s right, that'
36:29
s right, that' s right, that' s right, that'
36:29
s right. Seventy percent of the people think so, seventy percent, per
36:30
jemplo, and they don' t like it. Let' s say he
36:34
doesn' t like it because I tell Quinnedista, it may be I'
36:37
m a quinnerist, I say yes, Cristina face- to- face,
36:40
but I liked let' s hit the Comisa. But that' s why
36:42
I tell you when it' s very confrontational. It is clear that because
36:45
he gave, above all, considering that the President is having, above all,
36:52
the profile of a President in terms of support, of a classic President
36:55
who is not a Peronist than this, that has more support as he goes
37:02
up the back is then recorded alive at that point. It seems to me
37:04
that there is a question of style that is important and that if everything goes
37:08
well, nothing happens. And the day you bother to say and besides,
37:13
I don' t like the style. Let' s just say that,
37:16
don' t get married very clearly. I say it gives me the impression
37:17
that that to see if you have forty- seven percent approval, seventy percent
37:21
of the people who consider it very confrontational and you can imagine that the forty
37:24
- seven that that test all consider it confrontational, arrogant, autocrat and all
37:29
I know of all this criticism that occurs. Then it is clear that there
37:36
is a good part of the people who support it, who say yes,
37:38
okay, but it is very confrontational and in that sense it is very clear
37:44
the quantitative and focus Cruo well Carlos a taste for this long talk will be
37:47
the interview. Thank you very much for you always do not, please,
37:51
a pleasure to open aside Carlos for the highly outstanding political concept our collaborator,
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39:31
one of the days, sure r and mosquitoes chew with the rains.
39:37
Well what is promised is deuded we have it in line of Agustín Monteverde,
39:39
that one is more gently attends to me, Gustín, good afternoon, how
39:44
it goes, Agustín cut himself or Augustine you are there. I hear a
39:52
noise to see whether or not you taste calmly. I think he knew well
39:57
deserved that good Blue bounced a little, because there may be a decrease in
40:00
the number of jobs that follows the affliction of now very well step, very
40:04
very knot, but decelerating who are the four businessmen that are part of the
40:08
Council of Economic Recurrencies in milag that say POE a narcoterrorism, that had six
40:15
suspects for the four crimes 70th sure rosaries. The cooperative has nothing to do
40:22
with the fact that the official made millions of transfers. Now, Augustine,
40:24
let' s see, Augustine, good afternoon, how it goes, Augustine,
40:30
you' re there. I don' t hear anything. Let'
40:34
s see, Agustín Monteverde, I don' t hear absolutely no. I
40:38
don' t know if we' re low, we' re in trouble
40:43
with communication, what else do you want, otherwise we' ll have to
40:44
call him Whatsapp. I don' t know how to see him send the
40:47
production, but Watta' s. Now we see, we see less of
40:52
an alternative, because we have type. So, well, let' s
40:55
say interesting definitions of Carlos for construction. Plural Mos with Javier Correa today writes
41:00
a note in online politics and with political coupe and Gustavo Ferrari Wolfinson, nor
41:06
Thursday with Rockman and Daniel Ir To see if he is now from Monteverde.
41:15
Now, Augustine, you listen to me there, Augustine, well, there,
41:22
if not about, I don' t know how to try during the
41:23
week for baar. I don' t know what the problem is. Well,
41:28
what a topic. I don' t know what I' ve been
41:30
through. I know it was coming out of a lunch, but well,
41:32
they can count us, I don' t know why not what' s
41:35
in it. Listen to me, we' re following the search, and
41:40
we' re going on. Agustín, listen to me where to try.
41:44
Well, I' m still calm. Says Javier Correo writes our interviewee tomorrow.
41:50
The hypnotic power of the Otero government lives in online politics. The good
41:54
scandal. I don' t know if they' ve been with anyone who
41:59
knows the half a lie about the look bot, my boot of jung Don
42:01
leaves chicon Agustín is with two left cien my law and also the cat minister
42:05
to see Agustín. You listen to me there now, just at last.
42:08
Okay. Thank you for having them. We had the fifth time I introduced
42:12
you, but the important thing was that you were good, good afternoon.
42:14
I' ll throw you a couple to make it a little quick. I
42:16
know you' re in a hurry. Maybe I' ll thank you.
42:19
I' ll shoot you some triggers to see from definitions. If you like,
42:23
on the one hand, I don' t give a damn where the
42:29
dollars come from. This is milay a laundering the topic of fear of drug
42:31
trafficking washed away. You share this phrase and delete this phrase from the Chairman.
42:37
Yeah, sorry. I don' t take care of everyone else'
42:40
s phrase. It doesn' t exist, well, but he' s
42:45
the President. I ask you what you think of that statement by the President.
42:47
No, but it doesn' t refer to the orc washed, nor
42:54
does it refer to the trafficking of people, nor to the arch the bullet
43:01
or the aplos hate bi I honestly think, it seems to me to be
43:06
staying somewhat anecdotal. I know always by squeezing official phrases, you were always
43:09
going to find out what happens that if I had said more we' d
43:19
be hitting him. I also say consistently or Cristino farta that if I had
43:23
said it maya, it would have been credible that I had no problem going
43:30
with things that were not really detestable. No. Don' t you?
43:36
Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you?
43:36
Don' t you? Don' t you? I' d say no.
43:38
It' s not like that. In fact, or another Rodolfo Santánchez.
43:44
Beyond ascription of the figure, I mention it to the listeners, it
43:46
is not necessary for you to engage with the figure of mind. But it
43:50
says the importing trap is the trap with which reserves are accumulating. Let'
43:54
s leave the Santa Anchel' s side. I' m going to the
43:57
concept. Let' s say well, yes, to see the only thing,
44:05
the only thing there to be an asterisk. It' s the trap.
44:07
Like the trap, that' s the mechanism just next to everyone.
44:14
There' s nothing wrong with it. No. No, no, no,
44:16
no, I think you said intruder with a negative. Honestly, I
44:24
don' t forgive role. I know him good to know too. But
44:30
the phenomenon of having to accumulate reserves again postponing importers. That' s not
44:36
similar to what he did beyond operating instruments. Please, this is kind of
44:42
like two people so similar because they used to leave for a week as a
44:51
mother. What and what difference in issues of importers to one economic management another
44:58
in the matter of importers, the economic plan not to see. The subject
45:00
is very simple. In Argentina, dollars are missing. Go New, they
45:07
took dollars out of the stones and the stones didn' t throw any more
45:10
dollars. One thing we had to do was pay less dollars off. In
45:15
what way they eat less, drink everything that can be given and we take
45:19
it out so that people can do such a thing, so that people can
45:22
do such a thing. But well, the last missing was to extend imports
45:28
the ready also songs. Well, you found, you found a guy in
45:37
the cabele run over by four cars. Obviously, you' re obviously leaving.
45:43
The first thing you' re going to do is try to apply first
45:52
- aid medicine to her. Yes well, ok good until Sunday horse warned
45:59
about the delay of the exchange rate. I think you a little bit.
46:01
You agree not with the issue of backwardness. The exchange rate or don'
46:06
t look yes to see the word wouldn' t be the wing. Evidently,
46:12
what you agree with is that the exchange rate advantage was getting excited.
46:19
Now, what you need to see and what you can' t see is
46:23
I think the price drop comes and then they' ll recover real exchange rate
46:30
then you' re against some sort of evaluation and improvement to deal with the
46:37
liquidation of tegro carriers Acá be against us, please, but understand that you
46:45
can choose one policy or another to get to the same place. You can
46:52
take those different opinions. One was chosen, but then this way is now
47:04
the low of prices, because if you devalued remotely it reached the entrepreneur it
47:09
was already pleasing radio so far, I would recommend it, to review its
47:15
cost implications and to the extent that it can give I looked it down because
47:20
it is going to advance its competition, because the band that is the point.
47:25
Now, lowering the prices gets out you get to the same thing you
47:31
want to get with a devaluation of the denominational type. You don' t
47:37
believe me then. We must not devalue it, because you are risking a
47:40
little bit of inflation. That' s why you don' t devalue.
47:45
It' s not that politics has already been. This one. There could
47:49
have been another policy that OK would have followed in the line of this policy
47:52
would not have been eighty- five percent in December, and from there on
47:58
it would have been a different policy. But it was chosen or it'
48:04
s already. We' re physical people always. So, now you have
48:08
to eat this path, but ready each are different forms. OK yes,
48:15
yes, he took this path, that follow this way, forgive me you
48:17
told me that if you' re a merchant that lower prices, good producer
48:25
trader and how all and raise the cost of light and spending. With those
48:30
examples, how to sustain it Yes, so you' re studying your cost
48:34
equation and lowering prices as far as your possibilities are concerned, that' s
48:38
why the possibilities that issue of cost gives you. But for it' s
48:40
impossible. Today you say, I think it' s possible. But Dale
48:46
can assure you that what if there is some entrepreneur that is going to me,
48:53
he if he really studied his ejo, this he knows perfectly well and
48:57
that he can lower it. If it wasn' t studied, I recommend
49:00
that studies won' t be able to go down and you think there'
49:05
s going to be a base, there' s going to be a deflation,
49:07
not an acceleration of inflation. Obviously, there' s not going to
49:12
be anything else where he starts to get ahead of himself. This is the
49:16
market fisho to get ahead of the others. And where and where there'
49:23
s deflation, there' s a lot of products there was any supermarket.
49:29
I remember supermarket. There are already several studies of consultants, of experts in
49:35
culture. I can' t tell you I' m not no, no,
49:39
it' s not supermarket that I don' t. No. I
49:40
' m on, I' m on, there' s still the president
49:45
of the ROSA SRS. They' re saying that. Yes, the fact
49:52
that the one who drops prices is not only going to be able to sell,
49:58
to end the mobilization of capital, which means not to sell, but
50:00
also to use the line of competition. My advice does not fall asleep,
50:08
because if it is not going to be a wallet. How much do you
50:13
care? How much you' re worried about the strong ones in the recovery
50:16
of the recession. Frankly, I don' t care so much No,
50:28
honestly, I don' t care so much about such a drop in fiscal
50:30
spending. You don' t have to worry so much about falling incomes and
50:35
such. You' re talking about the street, forgiveness, the fall of
50:39
the fundraiser. You' re talking about the pantocre drop by one in the
50:45
number. How many of us put the number to which there' s recondation.
50:50
Not if I like you better than not how much you do. Looks
50:52
like this song isn' t going down. It' s the recommendation.
50:58
No, no, I don' t know, I don' t have
51:00
a touch anymore I have so much to ask you that I can' t
51:02
look for it, but I can' t remember. You' re down
51:06
16 percent. Suppose he goes, suppose he goes down twenty. You liked
51:09
twenty instead of sixteen twenty. I don' t know good. The primary
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chant dropped by more than forty, and that share of spending is sustainable.
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Let' s say, like or I can raise some, no, because
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there' s the subject. It' s sustainable. There is the issue
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not for no good, the issue of the populations that will have to be
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updated. Yes, sustainable, sustainable, not paying him perfectly terrible, etcetera,
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etcetera. How, of course, everything depends on the word, whatever
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the sustainable word is, but remember, sustainable and everything that is walking you
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Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, You are walking sorry for following Ball,
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Yes, Hello, Augustine or tell me and I don' t hear
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you, yes, yes, go there, there, I go there,
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you come back I hear you, well, I tell you as if you
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were beyond Australia. But what I' m telling you is that it'
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s sustainable. Yes, the degree of savings that has been made in the
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first three months, not after what is going to be the four or the
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five. Let' s say by the time it' s determined whether there
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' s going to be neu oley bas or whatever the degree of rock is
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going to be in the economy, it' s going to give the government
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a margin to get there to stay calm. Give him yes, okay,
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I' ll fight your po or saving margin. Give it to him,
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okay, okay, I' m gonna peel you off a little bit.
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You remember a talk we had quite as grateful as ever. I don'
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t have you almost anything out there screaming, but I' m asking you
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to get on the way back. Okay, you told me there were going
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to be free parity. I remember it in some time talks. That'
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s not happening today. We' re not crazy. A trucker deal.
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If you also forgot a part that the fares had to be free by company
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for being cordal. Yeah, well, but what makes the cheerful today,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, well, more than free is for businesses.
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Let' s keep it right, he' s pretty down on the problem.
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I' m not telling you anything. Yeah, well, hug,
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big guy, anyway. I know you' re having lunch and we have
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a few minutes left. Not the problem. Hug, hug or ball.
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Hug. Agustín Bye Bye, that we greeted Augustine, because the truth that
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was heard was very bad. There you go. The last one we'
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ve ever talked about was free with a liberal respect, because it' s
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government for nothing or, but free must be all. Thirty. Augustine,
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well, I thank him the most Augustine deference we always speak very well for
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him. Yes, it' s complicated, but the king wants more.
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Well, there we have to spare him everything Vice President understands, says it
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for respect. The truth is that one, as a communicator, can stop
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calling her attended to many things, not like this Trump, who said today,
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friend of meeting Leon more on a trip to Miami, one more trip
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to withdraw another little medal from the Argentine President. He' s gonna be
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with more, I think he' s more of a friend of our friend
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Juan. Well, I don' t know, but it' s Donald
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Trump. He again criticized Jewish Americans who did not possess him and said of
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any Jewish person who voted for Biden does not love Israel. Declaration of this
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style, which are typical of the Argentine President. The obres is attuned to
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a little crazy thing. I don' t give a damn. Don'
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t take out the dollars if we hit more ah what I know is good,
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it' s not worth hitting now is the government. I say because
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the drug trade that Agustín said has nothing to do with the broken ones.
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All right. Well, let' s see one more minute that' s
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gonna be sixty- seven. He' s gone to see where we'
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re going tomorrow He' s going to be here, as I told them
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with Javier Correa last. Tomorrow we will be with Daniel Quiteri, Alejandro Rosman
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and also tomorrow with our correspondent in North America, Don Gustavo Patrio active de
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Corazon. Inflation data, let' s wait until Friday. Today the dachto
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of the city of Buenos Aires was known. We' ll wait for that
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number. While a likely drop in cap production slow decline in inflation is marking
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with a minimal recovery of the marked financial nine, ninety and what the rans
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are going, we find ourselves tomorrow. Pio graces us