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KUBLAI KHAN: Personal Loss, Tattoos, and Life on the Road · The Downbeat

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What's up guys? Welcome back to the Downbeat
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podcast. My guests this week are Eric
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English and Matt Honeycutt of Kubla Khan back for a sequel.
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The last time Matt was on here was a smash hit episode.
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One of my favorites, one of your favorites.
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Glad to have him back and bring him with him.
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The bassist slash 808 player Eric English.
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Me and Eric go back as far as my first tour in the States, so it
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was great to catch up with him. We talk about their new album,
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Exhibition of Prowess, as well as Matt Honeycutt's short stint
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working at Hot Topic Tattooing. They're both very good
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tattooists. If you don't know Kuba Khan,
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check them out. They've got a headlining U.S.
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this summer. Can't wait to have them back for
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You look, I'm thirsty again. This won't be OK.
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You're thirsty. Look, straight off the bat, Mr.
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Monster, Yeah, what can I get you?
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A. Monster.
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What, From the bar of monster? Yeah, I should have probably got
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you one. What you having a regular?
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Oh yeah, whatever the fuck else I got you.
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Monster heavy, yeah. Monster Heavy.
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I'm going to do a Monster Lite. Do I have to get up and do?
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I'll get up and do this. Why?
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Didn't he do it? He's closer.
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I can get it. What if you then come back and
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it doesn't look as good? I fucked up.
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I should have got these drinks already.
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He's in a small chair. You can just.
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Right there. Oh, look at that lean.
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That's a, that's a New Jersey lean right there.
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I've ever, ever seen it. You got hard, you got heavy on
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the top and then soft. I'll take the soft.
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Regular Thanks buddy the. White 1.
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No, the one next to that, the pink No, down and right.
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Look at that that. This will be fine.
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Put that microphone close to your fucking mouth right here
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for the viewer at home. I was just giving Honeycutt some
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shit for being too quiet, but we had the compressor set up wrong.
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It was actually loud. Jesus Stone cold.
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What's going on there? Anyway, thanks for coming.
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Thanks Ramless, you feel that? Feel what?
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My knee. Oh, we're good, Jesus.
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That's a new New Jersey comedy. Cheers.
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I actually haven't tried the regular 0 Sugar have.
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You tried the water? I have.
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I drink it. I drink it all day, every day.
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Oh my God, that's. Good.
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It's like a. Wait, wait, wait.
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Pepsi Challenge. Let's Pepsi Challenge this
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quickly. Wait.
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I'm going to see what's the what the difference.
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Is don't close my eyes. You don't mind about germs, do
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you? I don't.
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Give a fuck man, I'm disgusting. I don't know why I'm doing it.
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Should I grab? Why am I spinning it?
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Should I grab a extra to really throw a wrench in?
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It grab a hard brake edge on camera just.
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Put like a can of piss in it like.
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Drink that. Don't, don't look.
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Or hand it to me. Go.
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And don't mouth hole up. Yeah, you're close.
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You just lick that. That's not mine, you fucking
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asshole. This one is.
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Drink that one then I should have fucked him and done the
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same again. I would have known a difference.
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Dude, this. Yeah, I was tried.
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This one. Let.
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Me taste yours I'm like a an OG monster in ages.
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That's what my body you can. Tell the difference between
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those two. Absolutely.
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I actually can't. Buddy, I dream about this stuff.
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I know you do. That's why we're here.
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Yeah. You want something crazy guy, he
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can chug one of those and then go to bed.
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Puts him to sleep. Don't it more times than I can
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count, doesn't. That mean you have ADHDADHD
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people I've. Seen him crack 1 and chug it
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down to the bottom. Get in his bunk.
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I won't see him until tomorrow. Yeah, but he's in his bunk.
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Nah. That's true.
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Anyway, it's enough. And as you drink chat Eric,
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Matt, I never call you Matt. Who calls you Matt?
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What do you call him? Honeycutt.
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I call him Matt. You call him Matt?
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Yeah. What's the normal name?
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Am I abnormal by calling you Honeycutt?
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No. Such a good surname.
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Yeah. I like it.
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I'm proud of that name. You can call me Matt too,
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though. I don't care.
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I feel like it'd be Matthew. I don't mind that either.
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I think Full name I. I just found his middle name out
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today. Yeah.
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Hit me guess give you 3 guesses. First, it's the most normal
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average name. To think of. 4 letters.
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Four letter starts with AC Carl. Nope.
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Damn that I wish, Chris. Nope.
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That is not, well, better. Wait till you hear my middle
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name. OK, one more guess.
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Four letter starts with AC. Yeah, but I can't say it.
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It's not that word. Nope.
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Every fucking cool middle name. You know it.
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I don't go, what is it? It's.
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Cody. That's not a normal name.
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I'm from England. There's not a single person
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called. Where are we right now?
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Where are we at Nashville? Tennis.
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See, brother. Probably pretty normal here.
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Cody. Matthew.
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Cody Honeycomb. That's it.
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But you, Cody, you're not. My middle name is 0.
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Can we guess? You'll never guess it.
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Go ahead. Let's start with.
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I'll tell you something. I.
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Like Edwin or something? Just take some guesses.
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It begins with B, right? Bartholomew.
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You're so like, honestly, is it very is a?
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Super English, that's. What I'm trying to.
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Think it's something it's actually super Scottish, but I
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want to know I think. Braveheart.
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Braveheart's close. I think it might be on one of
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these. I was going to say you read.
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Yeah, our names on there, it might be on one of these cans if
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it's one of the. Ingredients.
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Imagine my name is Hydrochloride.
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My middle name is Hydrochloride. That's it.
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No, it's not on there, but right, It could be on a drink
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begins to be beast. No, it could be on a drink.
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Could be on a drink's packaging. Baking soda.
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No, I think think of another word for a drink.
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Beverage. That's my middle name.
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I fucking shit. You know, I spelt differently,
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but it's a Scottish middle name. It's spelled IDGE at the end.
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Well, it's actually a Scottish last name.
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It was my. Pronounced the same way.
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Pronounced the same way, so my middle name's literally beverage
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in. I can see why you don't.
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I can see why you don't tell people that seem pissed off.
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Well, you thought Cody was ridiculous.
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I think it was ridiculous beverage.
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No I thought I thought you saying Cody was the most common
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name that begins with C was ridiculous.
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I didn't think Cody is a normal name.
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So when he told me that earlier, too, I didn't get Cody.
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Yeah. I think.
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Are we? Are we beefing?
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Immediately I'm I'm already about to wrap this up because
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Mr. Beverage here doesn't understand it.
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Cody and Cody's pretty. Normal over here.
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I think if we were in Thailand, you wouldn't see anybody named
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Cody, I guess, but. Yeah, and Britain's maybe some.
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Thailand might be some beverages.
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Quite a lot of beverages at the full moon high.
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What you been doing Where? Where were you yesterday?
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2 days ago we were at Rockville Daytona.
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Yes, about yesterday. Oh, yesterday we were driving
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from Florida to Nashville. That's not.
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That's like an 8 hour drive. Yeah, through Atlanta through.
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Atlanta How was the fest it? Was great.
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That was crazy. That was we played last year
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too, didn't we? Two years in a row.
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It's been great. It's always great.
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You did. You know, what was really
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annoying for me was I was listening to your record earlier
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at the gym. I took go to the gym again by
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the way. That's OK, it's a quick 45
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minute in and out. But I was also scrolling reels
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as you do at the gym and didn't realise I had the sound on and
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I'm pretty sure it was low. I was listening to low tech and
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then a rockfill reel came up which I think was low tech as
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well. Or like it was a collab post of
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U2 like a massive massive. Circle.
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Circle Pit thing and whatever track I was listening to was the
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same song as the real when I thought my phone was tripping.
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You know Shinfo story there, but that happened earlier today.
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Was this year as good as last year?
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This year is much crazier, yeah. Which like we said, last year's
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was great, yeah. But this year was obviously like
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people, people knew it was coming this year.
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Was a lot hotter though, yeah. Was it?
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They So when we left that night they made a post about they had
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a semi truck bringing more tents and air conditioners in.
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So I guess people are dropping like flies all day.
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What's Daytona like? Yeah.
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Is it like, is it on the beach? Yeah, it's like tropical.
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Daytona Beach. Might go going to Florida in a
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couple of weeks and want to go to the beach.
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Is that the go to beach? You're a Florida guy.
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What's the go to beach? I like Saint Pete Clearwater,
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but Daytona's sick. The problem is, is the most time
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we've ever spent in Daytona is on a Speedway and the Speedway.
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And when you're on the Speedway, it's not very easy to get off
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the Speedway. Yeah.
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I didn't know if it was like, you know, like Venice Beach,
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everyone's like is not noise. Not a noise bit.
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I don't know. I don't.
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Know I would like to believe that Daytona.
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Beach is pretty cool and I've just been in the parking lot.
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Yeah, beautiful parking. Lot.
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So yeah, I don't know, maybe I'll just go to the parking lot.
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Fuck the beach, Ryan you. Guys have googles for it, just
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Google it and look at pictures it would be fun.
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Yeah, but you can't trust Google.
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Not anymore. Not anymore.
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With the AI shit, you actually can't.
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You fucking ask it anything and it's like, yes, of course you
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can put your fingers into a fucking fire extinguisher
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without it going off. No, you can't.
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Pulled that one off the top of my head.
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I don't want that. I looked Matt up the other day
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on the AI Google thing and said that him and his mom have a nice
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tech company startup. Yeah, I didn't know that.
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What's what did you? What was the prompt to put that
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in I? Don't remember, but I was like,
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Matt's mom's not alive and he's about as low tech as it gets.
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Yeah. So I don't think that's very.
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Real I need to know about this tech company.
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That's going to say I, don't I. Think they owe me some money if.
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There's one person in the world that's doesn't have a tech
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company. Well, he's a YouTube now.
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I got Oh yeah, yeah, I try. How's it going?
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That's good. Born on here.
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Yeah, born on here was your idea.
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I just went with it because I like I'm being legitimate too.
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When you said the people would watch it, I was like, I really
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don't think people will like why would they?
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And people are watching it. You got.
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Like 30,000 followers, subscribers or whatever in there
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fucking. First video was like the second
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or first or second month of this year.
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So that's doing all right. There's only 8 videos I think
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you're doing. Better than me, so subscribe.
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What's AI saying about Matt Honeycutt?
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The only AI stuff on here is about Matthew Honeycutt from
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Vampire Diaries. There you go.
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Oh. Wow, is that the name of a
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character? Yes.
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Oh, fucking vampire over there knows all about it.
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Any good? Vampire.
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Diaries. Well, just the guy.
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Is he hot? Is he a hot vamp?
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Is that the actor's name or the character's name?
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The character's. Name.
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That's the other Matt. That's Matt Beverage Honeycutt.
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That's not that's not me. That's the other guy.
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Do you get that a lot? Then you want to talk about your
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name like that, or about being the vampire guy.
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Back in the day, I remember hearing about that because when
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when she said that, I was like, Oh yeah, I remember that.
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There's like some vampire stuff, kind of hot Topicy kind of shit,
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I think. Baddies though, like.
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Hot topic, do you? Remember what city we were just
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in or like on the beach or Transylvania?
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Remember that guy was at Merch and he's like, I'm at Honeycutt,
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I'm at Honeycutt. I want to show my ID.
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What? It was him fucked up on monster.
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There's someone I was at one of the kill switch shows we just
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did. She was also called Matt
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Honeycomb. That is, I DS like.
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Oh, I don't you. No one told me this.
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But that. That makes sense now what you're
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saying. At first I was like, what the
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fuck are you talking about? Yeah.
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He's like, I got my ID right here.
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I was like, yeah, yeah. You're mad.
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That's how you're mad. You want to see I?
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Worked a hot topic for a month. A month.
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A month. Shortest job I've ever had go
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on. So I was living in Corpus
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Christi at the time and I'd before that I'd have just been
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doing like construction and shit for years and I didn't want to
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work out in the hot anymore if I could help it.
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So I moved down there. I decided I was like, I'm going
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to go up to the mall and just see what's cracking in the mall.
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What year is this set the scene for?
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I think it. Was probably 2018 maybe.
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OK, some like that are on their way out.
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Yeah. Well, yeah, especially, I mean,
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the Corpus Christi Mall is, it's a regular beverage American
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mall. It's all right.
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The entrance that you go in the food court is on both sides you
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and it's like a shotgun walk. You just walk straight.
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And then there was the fucking hot topic.
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It was either straight and a little bit over here or what I
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don't remember, but I walk in and I'm like walking around and
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looking at shit and just totally out of my depth, man.
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I had no idea what I'm looking at.
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There's like Naruto shit on the walls and pop dolls and stuff
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like ah, fuck, man. But the AC was bumping.
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So I was like, this is pretty cool.
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I could do this and I'm not even fucking with you.
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The guy he's he's my buddy's name is Jerry.
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He's cool as fuck. He comes up and he's like, hey,
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are you, are you in a van? Like, yeah.
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He was like a are are you in Kubicon?
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I was like, yeah. I was like, are you hiring right
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now? And he was like, you want a job?
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I was like, yeah, he's like, we can get you an interview
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tomorrow. He was like, cool.
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Yeah. And then I started working there
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and, dude, navigating that place was impossible.
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I let I worked there for a month.
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I swear that every night they just move shit around.
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What do you mean? Is that like?
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Like it's just there's, it's just a shoulder to shoulder
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little maze with a bunch of shit.
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You turn around and everything looks the same.
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They got like trip pants on one wall.
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And then you turn around and like you said, it's like Vampire
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Diaries and like Harry Potter sorting hat shit.
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And you're just like, dude, what the fuck?
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And I would have to talk to these customers that I had no,
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nothing in common with. Wait, wait, wait.
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But you know what all these things are?
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You mentioned like a lot of knee shit there.
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Look how because I worked there. Is that where you learned it or
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did you come in, originate and it was all just like there?
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Was there was certain stuff that I didn't I I had no idea.
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Like even I know what Naruto is. I see people wearing the
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headband and I know what it is, but like, I can't name you a
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character I don't know. I know the run.
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You know what? You.
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Know so much. That's enough to say it's.
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Enough to get your job a hot topic, I'll tell you that.
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You got the job, why did it only last a month?
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Oh, because I didn't like it. It was.
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It was legitimate. AC though they turned the AC
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off. We went on work tour.
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We. Went on work tour but it was
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also it was the and I I didn't I told everybody here or that I
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worked with this and I was like, yo, you guys are all awesome
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this is cool but like I'm not good here They're like, do you
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keep telling me I have to talk to customers and smile at them
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and they're like hey man, like on Friday they're like you can
16:19
go pick out like you like Jurassic Park right and I'm like
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yeah, they're like we have a. Holy child to these people are
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so fucking fucking we're. Like we have a whole section
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over here of like Jurassic Park button up shirts.
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Like you can go get that. And on Friday you can wear it.
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And I was like, what do I have to pay for it?
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And they're like, yeah. And I was like, then now I'm not
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doing that shit. Like, why would I do that?
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I'll spend my own money. Then you're keeping my paycheck
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that that I'm supposed to be getting because I'm buying a
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bunch of merch from you guys. And they're like, come on, man.
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It's just like team player shit. Like, you know how it works?
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Like you would literally come up to me and be like, yeah, just
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like bullshit with the customers and be like, yeah, man, you
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know, Dragon Ball Z, you like that shit, Come over here.
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You know what I mean? And I was legitimately like,
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dude, I can't do this. I'm not good at this job.
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I'm floundering. I don't know where I'm going.
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I'm bumping into everything all the time.
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I don't know shit about nose piercings, man.
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Like people ask me all these questions and I told him I was
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like, I love you guys to death. Like I gotta go like that's I'm
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not coming back and I love. The way you got the job though.
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Yeah, well, hey, that's how it worked, man.
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And I was cool with it. I I literally.
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What was the interview? What did they say?
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Who's this? And you went to fuck?
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I know that one. That's Harry Potter.
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You're in. Nah.
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It was just like, do you have like sales experience?
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And I was like, well, I'm in a band.
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We do OK. Selling riffs.
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Yeah, we sell some stuff, you know?
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And I was like, they're like, do you have people skills?
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I was like. Yeah, you do, but.
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Yeah, but you know, like I said, when a, when a kid comes up to
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you and he's, you know, be like, oh man, do you prefer Hufflepuff
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or Slytherin? And I'm like, I don't fucking
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know what you're talking about, man.
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Like I know of Harry Potter, but like, I'm not, I don't have an
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opinion on this kind of shit. And then I was like an asshole.
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You can. Bullshit.
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I could that was a problem is I couldn't.
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You could. I couldn't do it now I.
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Could probably get away with it now, but like just trying to
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talk to these people about this kind of stuff.
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Like it wasn't even that I was like, I didn't, I never thought
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like I was above it or like it was like lame.
18:07
I just didn't. I'm I'm not going to go home and
18:10
do homework and watch Naruto so that when a guy comes in and
18:14
loves I'm I'm not watching Naruto.
18:17
It's not a movie. Apparently, it's a show.
18:19
They they did have a lot of they had like going low and yeah, Lee
18:23
low and stitch backpacks and Lee Low and stitch is cool to this
18:27
day. I've always said that was the
18:29
only job I've ever had that I was like going to work.
18:31
I'd be like fucking shit in my car.
18:34
I got to don't want to go to work and fucking.
18:36
Insane. Because that's like most
18:38
people's like office jobs. They're like fuck my boss and
18:40
whatever. You just have to go and hang
18:42
around with dude. When I was building fences and
18:44
shit, I was in heaven. I loved it.
18:47
It was cool. It was fun.
18:48
I got to be on the scene. I know that's, that's where I
18:51
got kind of swindled was I was like, I I deserve a job that's
18:54
indoors and then that's how they get you and the next thing you
18:57
know, you're working on a hot topic.
18:58
And that way is Kubla Khan. Have you got a shirt in a Hot
19:00
Topic yet? Full circle.
19:02
No, I don't think we ever got that.
19:03
Like I thought it was like regional.
19:07
Is it? I don't know how that works.
19:09
Like, I remember, like my Hot Topic in Jersey, like had a
19:13
varial shirt, but I don't think that would have been like the
19:16
Texas one. I think you have to do it that
19:18
way, yeah. It would have done terribly.
19:19
The, I mean, I guess maybe you, you guys, there's certain bands,
19:25
you guys are also like humble with your music.
19:27
You're like, no, I guess. I mean, I'm sure if they you're
19:29
like, I probably be like, OK. Not loose as in on topic I'm
19:33
pretty sure. I'll have no problem.
19:35
Bad Omen, Sleep Token, all that shit.
19:37
Like you're coming up with those bands where you could be
19:39
regional T-shirt people. Yeah.
19:42
I would never want how much they paint.
19:43
Yeah, I wouldn't say no. Yeah.
19:45
Oh yeah. Fuck yeah.
19:46
It would be a good full circle moment.
19:48
I would say back to the store and you can sell that shirt.
19:51
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Check it out the. Only hot topics I'd want to have
20:53
our shirts though are the ones that still have the big metal
20:56
tunnel. What's?
20:57
The big metal tunnel that's. How you know it's an OG hot
21:00
topic? What's the what is it?
21:01
Oh, that looks. Like the bat cave, it's like a
21:03
crazy, it's terrifying metal frame.
21:07
Oh, I've never seen that. They used to have you remember
21:09
the the like demon gates they had like the iron bars and shit
21:14
I. Remember the logo?
21:15
We didn't have it in the UK so my first experience Hot Topic
21:18
would have been 2016. I don't know when they changed
21:22
your. First time here.
21:23
Yeah, 2016 and it would have been.
21:25
In fact, the very first thing I did was go into a hot topic.
21:29
Not like on purpose, but I'm. In America I can't find a
21:32
fucking hot topic now it. Was no.
21:34
But do you know what? There was an element of that
21:36
because I'd heard of it on like movies and stuff, but it was
21:38
actually, I didn't have any vans and I play, I used to play the
21:42
drums in, but I don't. Think they sell shoes?
21:43
So I went in and they didn't have any, and I had a little
21:46
look around, saw all the stuff that you're moaning about, and
21:48
then I went to zoomies. Well there's a store that does
21:50
sell vans in the mall called Vans.
21:53
If you go in there they usually have vans for sale.
21:56
There were few and far between back then.
21:58
Full. Circle moment.
22:00
Did we meet you like yours? We met you in 2016, right?
22:04
Yeah. In the studio or.
22:06
Or when was the tour we did together?
22:08
The 20. Wasn't that 16?
22:11
Wait, which tour? The Co headliners you in Silent
22:14
Planet. Yes, that was the first one.
22:17
Wasn't that like 26th that? Was 2017 I.
22:19
Started the braids back then. We did, but we met before that.
22:22
Yeah. When you were recording in
22:24
Belleville. No match.
22:25
Would it? Would it have been?
22:26
That came out in 2017, so it would have been then.
22:29
You had the braids. Yeah, I remember we were
22:32
recording upstairs and you were recording downstairs.
22:36
I think flipped. Flipped.
22:37
We were down. You were up ranging where that.
22:39
Was Will will room was on the downstairs.
22:41
Yes, and I just remember whatever the last track on Nomad
22:45
is with just like the real slow riff.
22:47
Oh, he hates that one. I remember I I still smoked weed
22:51
at the time and I would go and smoke outside and then I'd come
22:56
back in and you guys were still tracking that slow riff and I'd
22:59
just be vibe into it. I think that's around the same
23:01
time no one got into like Stoner metal.
23:04
So I think that's why that's all the influence.
23:06
Leaked in which I wasn't against the.
23:08
Song's fine, I like the song. But.
23:10
I just thought there's like really quiet screaming and
23:14
really loud I. Remember you tracking that as
23:16
well so. There's like quiet screaming,
23:18
loud talk, singing. I just wanted that flipped a
23:20
little or balanced out. Who acts that?
23:23
Randy or you just gave up? I lose most battles, yeah.
23:28
I give up with Randy. What's Randy like to work with?
23:30
I've got a bunch of questions and one of them is Randy.
23:32
Never recorded with Randy, but I fucking have known him as long
23:35
as I've known every other Randy. 'S a goat.
23:37
Yeah, he's great. He's the best.
23:38
He's. So good.
23:39
We just got back from being with him.
23:41
We just did a single. Did you wait?
23:44
When does that get announced? Can we say this?
23:46
Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's anything
23:48
crazy. Yeah, you want to say it?
23:50
I want. To say, ideally it should come
23:52
out before our headliner. Which is when?
23:55
September. We get the plugs out of the way,
23:57
OK, Right. Yeah.
23:58
So we won't, we won't talk about it too much because it'll be out
24:00
before then. Well, hopefully.
24:02
I don't know how these things work, it's just the.
24:03
Headliner that we got on off before and we turned down, is
24:06
that a different one? Yeah.
24:07
Definitely. I it doesn't get as far as me,
24:10
That's OK. So I don't know you.
24:12
Just text me now as you got that number now.
24:14
We're entry level knowledge for. Whatever my new band is.
24:17
Oh, by the time this is out, yeah, I would say you're.
24:20
Done. Things hit Isaac and trickle
24:23
down to US. And that Isaac's the.
24:25
Puppeteer. That's a 5050 shot, if it even
24:27
gets. There's a good chance I don't
24:29
even know everything coming up. Yeah.
24:31
Yeah. But do you like that or do you
24:32
not like that? Because I I am currently the one
24:38
of the two. This is what's happening.
24:40
Let's trickle this down. And I hate it.
24:43
I think I'd rather be trickled upon than the trickler.
24:47
Yeah, I mean. There is a lot of bullshit
24:49
though that it's like, he probably doesn't tell us because
24:51
we'd all just be like shut up, we don't care.
24:54
You know, I wouldn't say shut up.
24:55
I wouldn't. Say shut up, but you know what
24:56
I'm saying? I didn't know he was like, he's
24:59
the ringleader. Yeah.
25:00
Behind that small drum kit. Just fucking pull in the
25:03
strings, No? He's the.
25:04
He's the absolutely he's. The big brain of the.
25:06
Operation. He's big, big brain business.
25:10
He's big brain music. Thanks.
25:13
What did you do? I'm big brain.
25:15
Let's do. AO eights.
25:17
AO eights on a pedal. Exactly.
25:19
Did you invent the AO8 on a pedal I.
25:21
Stole it from Gideon, told them I stole it from them.
25:25
They looked at me and said we've never done that so I have no
25:29
idea where I he was. Probably just tuning and at the
25:32
same time as an AO8 went off I. Told Tyler one time.
25:34
I was like, yeah, we got that from you.
25:36
I'm pretty sure. He looks at me and was like, I
25:37
don't think we ever did that. Do you still do it?
25:39
Oh God, yeah. That's the that's the most
25:42
important piece of. When we fly.
25:44
Can you explain it please to this camera?
25:47
Because some people will be in it I.
25:49
Get so many DMS about this let's go.
25:52
It's a jam man loop pedal and the technology is so bad it
25:57
crashes on every computer. So you got to be quick with it.
26:01
You just get the 808 sample, which I think Steve from the
26:04
studio made. Oh.
26:05
I've got the same one, Big Steve.
26:07
The same one. Yeah, exactly.
26:09
You just put it on the pedal, set it to single loop and you
26:12
just hit it a lot. And for people that don't know
26:14
what that is, I need to dumb it down even more just in case the
26:18
big boom noise that you hear. Yeah, which we actually did on
26:23
the last, last, I think. Yeah.
26:25
If they're uneducated, have them watch the last.
26:28
Yeah, the big boom that happens at your shows before breakdowns,
26:31
Normally it's either on a backing track or a drummer will
26:35
hit a sample pad to set it off. So we stopped.
26:39
It was on the sample pad at one point but I think we're running
26:43
into the issue. I'm not a drum scientist so I
26:46
don't know how it works. We only got 2 arms and sometimes
26:50
it don't add up. He'd be like, I can't, that's
26:52
physically impossible. I can't do.
26:53
That and it's all that's on my mind.
26:55
Isaac's got a lot going on and. You're just like, when is the
26:57
next? Yeah, so he.
26:59
Can he can improvise it a lot better.
27:01
Like there's times where I'll just be talking and he'll hit it
27:04
and people. Oh, before the set starts, we're
27:06
ringing out. I'm on 8, maybe 9, you know?
27:11
But like so Eric will set it off with his with a loop pedal
27:15
instead of the drama doing it because I when dramas do it.
27:20
What you're missing out on here here is the drum science.
27:23
Even if a drummer can do it. Here's the breakdown.
27:25
Take a take a take a take a right, that's great.
27:31
Perfect breakdown. You can have that one.
27:33
You're only hitting one symbol. If you got hit that that
27:36
breakdown needs 2 crashes even you must know that you need it
27:40
to be loud. Impact impact.
27:42
Shit it wasn't. The only thing I sacrifice at
27:46
that is like can't do like a little kick or something, but
27:48
eight O 8's cool, you're going to kick so.
27:51
There's a time and a place. Kick for every kick you could
27:53
kick on. There's parts because I have our
27:56
talkie samples and the eight O 8.
27:58
So like when the gong part comes up in the hammer, I'm on my
28:01
heels when I have to hit at the exact same time together.
28:04
Are you just you're in 808 so you're doing the gong as well?
28:07
So I do 80 eights on one pedal and then we have a bigger gem
28:11
man that can has numbers you can go between yeah and that has
28:15
like the gong. So you were doing all of them?
28:18
I didn't. Know that self destruct talkie
28:20
parts like the end sample so you.
28:22
Don't do to a click. I remember talking about this
28:24
last time, which is fucking amazing because every time I see
28:27
you like I. Control it so then it's if me
28:30
and eyes are on the same page it all works.
28:32
It's it sounds like perfectly in time every time, Yeah.
28:36
You ever think about moving to tracks?
28:38
No. No, when I don't do that, thank.
28:39
God, and I mean we have some tracks, but like so.
28:42
Here's my thing with tracks, if they're enhancing your set to be
28:47
more like a cool vibe for live to match your album, more
28:51
transitions, Totally cool. If you can't play your set
28:55
anymore. If they go out, yeah, I got
28:57
beef. Yeah, 100%.
28:59
We just do it because we don't have a guy that can use his feet
29:02
to do that. But.
29:04
So I just I've seen yours is just like transitions and and
29:08
ambiance for a live set. Totally totally cool.
29:13
Exactly. Nothing that could be done what
29:15
you? Start trickling members on
29:17
there. Yeah, I like, I love everyone in
29:20
counterparts to death. You've got to get a fucking
29:22
basis, guys. Brendan brought up a good point.
29:25
He said it's one less opinion. I said OK, I.
29:30
Get that? I guess so.
29:31
Yeah. I mean that's true, but like, I
29:34
don't know. I'd rather have a fucking
29:35
person. I'd rather have a fucking person
29:37
and like the like Unioniser in me is like there is some poor
29:42
little bassist somewhere that could be playing for
29:45
Counterparts right now. So when we did Europe with them,
29:47
I remember I texted Brendan. I was like, do you want me to
29:51
fill in? Because we'll be there already.
29:53
And he's like, can you play better than a MacBook?
29:55
I said absolutely not. He's like, we're good.
29:59
I was like, yeah. Saying how they getting away
30:01
with it, I don't get any shit. I think the most shit they get
30:03
is from me on this. Here's the other thing again my
30:06
heart take on this if you're my friends.
30:09
You do, everyone. Yeah, if you're counterparts, if
30:12
you're a Gideon, you can do whatever you want.
30:14
But if you're if you're someone I don't like or respect, I gotta
30:17
be. Fucking back in.
30:18
Tracks they just also carry too. They're just like, yeah, who
30:21
cares? Yeah like it's like really
30:22
fucked as long as you're not like, well, here's why.
30:25
It's like no, who gives a shit? We don't want to fucking have
30:27
another guy. Here's our computer.
30:29
At least they are honest. It's about.
30:31
Honesty. Yeah.
30:32
Yeah, that's what I mean. Once you start trying to hide it
30:34
like there's no, they're not hiding that someone is just not
30:38
standing there. They're.
30:38
Just like #1 we're insufferable to be around round #2 we want
30:43
more money, isn't? Oh OK, then do what you want.
30:45
If you're that honest, I respect it.
30:48
Also, no offense, it's just base.
30:51
Literally, I get it. I was, I was going to say this
30:53
earlier. So when we fly anywhere, I'll
30:58
check base, I'll check pedals that can all be replaced.
31:01
Check is in on the airline. Yeah, that eight O 8 pedal is in
31:05
my personal bag. If that doesn't make it, that's
31:09
an actual problem. If my bass doesn't make it, if
31:11
my pedals don't, it's just base. We'll figure it out.
31:13
So. You're an AO8 player backup
31:16
bassist, so like the AO 8 is your main gig.
31:19
Oh, absolutely. Hot Gear, I love that shit.
31:22
Does that ever go wrong? Yeah, like.
31:24
Once in a balloon. So if there's no barricade,
31:27
every now and then it just gets unplugged or stepped on.
31:29
Or doing fucking. But that's cool.
31:31
I like that. And then?
31:33
Don't say that one here. You're going to get so many.
31:35
It's OK. And then sometimes the little
31:39
comes unplugged so I'll miss some like Rockville first song.
31:43
I think the first two didn't hit.
31:46
Click it back in, I got. One last question on the AO8
31:48
before we do 20 minutes on AO8 talk, but I could do fucking
31:52
another hour. You got a lot of breakdowns that
31:56
come in not on the one. Yes.
32:00
Where does the AO8-GO? On one or on?
32:06
What's the one I'm thinking of? It's on the new record.
32:07
Is it fucking? I think it's just low tech.
32:11
Oh, it's low tech. Yeah.
32:12
One. Damn.
32:13
Damn. Where's your AO8 going?
32:15
Look, you can't remember now. It's muscle memory.
32:17
Get those feet out. You have like, I fucking do it
32:21
out. I don't.
32:21
Remember, I'm going to hit it on one you're going.
32:23
To hit it on one, which means you can do the kick on 2I.
32:25
Gotta get my leg up. How heavy is his leg?
32:28
I don't. Know, but that's the other thing
32:31
live I'm I'm going to go a little extra 2 probably I think
32:37
it's on drop 2 in the I think it's on the one I really.
32:40
Want to see that but. See then in the hammer, when we
32:43
count that in, that's like that, you will never and then I'll hit
32:46
it on that. On that, yeah, but.
32:49
I think his talk talking would be the one right.
32:54
I'll hit it on. Yeah.
32:56
I'll hit it on the first note you.
32:58
Really are an 808 player an 8 O eightist?
33:01
If you ask me what note I was playing.
33:03
I mean, it's open. Not surprisingly, it's 2.
33:07
I don't know what note that is, but if you ask me anything about
33:10
the eight O 8, I got you. Fuck yeah, it's 32 minutes on
33:12
AO8 already. Didn't even get into we.
33:14
We started this was about to go into movies with Matt Honeycutt
33:18
and then we went into AO88. O eights are more important
33:20
anyways. No, I like movies with Matt
33:22
Honeycutt. Well.
33:23
Thank you. You were like complaining that
33:27
you couldn't have a hot topic job, but now you've got like
33:29
Internet hot topic job. Do you find these movies?
33:32
It's. Literally a labour of love, man
33:33
I. Got beef with an episode and I
33:35
wouldn't have previously had beef.
33:38
The Blade episode What's? Wrong with that one.
33:39
That one's fine. Nothing wrong with the episode,
33:41
right? OK, You're a movie lover, right?
33:44
You love action movies. I was once a hater of the Marvel
33:49
Cinematic Universe, and I did it.
33:52
I recently did it. I did it all and it's kind of
33:55
sick. I love it.
33:57
Hey man, that's why everybody's entitled to their opinions.
34:00
Have you tried it? I got up through end game.
34:04
The fight, you did not need to do that anymore and you're just
34:06
not into it as if you fucking persevered.
34:09
I don't like this. I'm going to watch 50 hours.
34:13
Now, but I feel like so much has happened since then and I mean
34:16
after end game I was like I can, I can wash my hands, I'm good.
34:19
I don't need to keep they they ended it that's.
34:21
Kind of how I feel now, like everything I've watched since
34:23
then, I've been like, this isn't it?
34:25
But wait, did you? Because you really came in hot
34:27
on the beginning of Blade episode about how you don't.
34:29
Have or Yeah, if you were to set up Blade against any of those
34:32
movies, it's night and day. Remaking it, do you?
34:34
Know he's in the new one, yeah. I don't know.
34:37
He's coming back, baby. Why are we sick?
34:39
People want him back. He's great.
34:40
So wait, what is your actual opinion of up to end game still
34:44
in like here's the. Thing when it comes to marvel
34:47
superhero movies because there's so many people that are just
34:50
legitimate fans of it I'm like him I when it comes to that
34:55
series of movies I was a guy that was just like I got 20
34:58
bucks I'll go check this out watch it be entertained for two
35:02
hours not know who anybody really is I know who the Hulk is
35:05
I know you know Captain America and Thor you really.
35:08
Can be at a hot topic. Yeah, I know these people.
35:10
You guys want Hulk? No, he's green.
35:13
You like green, right? Come here.
35:15
But yeah. And then then I, I watch it, I'm
35:17
like fuck, OK. And then I leave and then I take
35:20
a shit and I don't remember any of it.
35:22
Like it's. They're you've seen them all, I
35:24
guess. I saw Avengers I I well, no
35:28
'cause I haven't seen Civil War I haven't seen.
35:29
I've seen. Anything.
35:30
Now you got to do it all. I I I have to do it 'cause.
35:33
I was the same as you. Did you say I don't have to do
35:36
it, You have to do it. I don't know the.
35:38
One that they fought at the airport, that civil war.
35:41
I haven't seen that one because that was when I was like, oh
35:43
fuck, 'cause that was when they got big tiny in there and he was
35:46
humongous. Yeah, I was like, that looks
35:48
sick. Ant Man.
35:49
Yeah, big time. I've never seen an Ant Man
35:51
movie. I'm not going to fucking watch
35:52
an Ant Man top. Five top five Ant Man is a top
35:55
five Marvel for me. I'm not even fucking kidding
35:58
you. Yeah, you're going to love.
36:00
Mango's blade blade Blade blade then maybe in game.
36:04
Need I remind you that honey, I shrunk the kids or that's.
36:09
Not a marvel. Winner What's in your top No
36:11
Look who's Dawkins in your top five movies of all time Last.
36:14
Time. Last time not not this.
36:16
I've seen a lot of movies since then.
36:19
No, but Ant Man honestly is in my top five.
36:22
What do you? Like about Ant Man, what's so
36:24
impressive? Paul Rod's funny #1.
36:26
I don't even know who. You know, Paul, Rod I.
36:28
Know his face but I don't like watch his movies.
36:31
He's funny bro. I.
36:32
Like the low stake ones. Yeah, like Ant Man's like, oh,
36:34
this is all crazy superhero space.
36:38
And it's an origin story, so you don't have to know like fucking
36:42
Doctor Strange or any of that shit.
36:44
So yeah. Strange man.
36:46
That's number one for me, really Doctor Strange and #1 because
36:49
what I'm saying city outside of like, because I did like The
36:53
Avengers movies as well once I got there, But like the movies
36:56
outside of there are like sick. And I was like, wait, these are
37:00
really fucking good. But I was coming into it.
37:03
I'm trying to sell you on Marvel.
37:04
If anything, I'm trying to sell you on Monster Energy.
37:07
But like sold. But like, I was like, I went to
37:11
go see whatever. Like when you're on tour and
37:14
it's like, I've got 20 bucks, I'll go see a Marvel movie.
37:17
And then like you're saying you're watching it.
37:18
You're like, well, who's that right?
37:19
Who's that? What is that a reference to?
37:21
And you're like, whatever. So it's like, OK, I'll just do
37:23
them all. I.
37:23
Mean basically what I was getting to.
37:25
It's not like I've sat through the whole do you?
37:27
Hate me today? No, there's a there's a vibe.
37:30
No. Yay.
37:31
Listen all, I was a. Crazy beverage thing, yeah.
37:34
It's just your mentalized beverage that really kind of
37:36
threw me off. Fucked the whole thing up.
37:38
I was having a really good day until you told me that.
37:40
I mean the. Day with that was a pretty
37:42
heavy. I'm also like.
37:44
Beverage OK, I'm sorry, carry on.
37:46
Next question. No, that's The thing is like
37:49
when it comes to that, when I said that on the blade thing,
37:53
I'm talking about just what I've seen.
37:54
I haven't gone through the whole because there's like it wouldn't
37:56
those are like fucking 40 movies I'd have to watch.
37:59
It has to be. I'm not doing that.
38:01
Did you watch what from what? No, I don't.
38:04
OK. From what I've seen of the
38:07
Marvel movies, the newer ones, they're fine.
38:11
It was cool. But like, it it what?
38:12
My point was is it doesn't. Blade is awesome.
38:15
Blade. I think Blade and Blade 2 are
38:17
fucking crazy. You know what I'm saying?
38:19
Yeah. I agree with the sense so.
38:22
If we're going to categorize it as like, yeah, even though
38:24
that's one of the earlier Marvel movies, even to now, I still
38:27
just pick that. That's what I'm saying.
38:29
Like, if people would be like, what's your favorite Marvel
38:32
movie? People would expect me to say
38:33
like, just. I'm back in.
38:35
Yeah, like fuck it, you know they.
38:37
'D expect me to say something current, but it's like, Nah, if
38:39
I'm being real, well, it's Blade.
38:41
I think Blade's one of my favorite movies regardless of
38:43
what. Blade out of it.
38:44
I mean, I've, like I said, I've seen in game.
38:46
I saw that in theaters. Wait, wait, you didn't see the
38:49
ones before it I've. Seen that one before in game.
38:52
Infinity War. Sure, the one where the one
38:56
where Thanos gets he he gets like wished away to some.
38:59
Other planet. You didn't watch the build up
39:01
for that? I'm such a marvel.
39:02
Fucking apology I saw. The first Iron Man was great.
39:05
That was a good, it was good. There is some steam coats 4/2
39:09
dog shit. Yeah, but I I think like Matt's
39:12
saying that it's the same with me.
39:13
It's like I like him because I'm just easily entertained.
39:15
Like I could watch Thor 2 and be like.
39:18
This is an 8 way. That's what I'm saying.
39:20
Like, you can just watch him because that was a cool movie.
39:22
But I guess if you're Die Hard Marvel and you're like, yeah.
39:26
Well, I don't like and call me crazy.
39:28
Like Green. When you start to make that many
39:30
movies, it gets hard for the average watcher to know what the
39:32
fuck's going. That's like when you're asking
39:33
like, which ones have you seen? I'm like brother, I don't.
39:35
That's why I was a hater though, and I'm the only reason I've
39:38
been. Coming out for 15 years now.
39:40
The only reason I bring this up is because you you have a whole
39:43
YouTube channel about movies. I know you like movies.
39:45
But either have you noticed besides the trailer breakdowns,
39:47
I'm not talking about anything past like 1999.
39:50
Yeah, that's my design. Don't run out of movies though.
39:54
No movies list. All 90s.
39:58
I mean, not all 90s. I think the furthest that the
40:02
one that I have right now I think is Jeepers Creepers, which
40:04
was like 2001. Which whenever I like that
40:08
movie, I have a fucking movie. Rocks.
40:09
Jeepers Creepers do rocks. What did you say?
40:12
I don't do scary you. Don't do scary.
40:13
I think we've had this chat before.
40:15
Hey, we tried to get you to go to the movies.
40:18
So this is the story. We were talking about this
40:20
yesterday. You guys were all about to go
40:23
watch Midsummer. Yes.
40:24
So you're like, let's watch Hereditary.
40:26
I said absolutely not. So we watch it anyway.
40:28
And then you guys made me watch it.
40:30
And then you all went to the movie theater.
40:32
So now I'm in the studio alone with tall ceilings, and there's
40:36
that scene where she's up in the corner.
40:38
So now I have to walk from downstairs all the way upstairs
40:41
in every room I walked in. When was that?
40:46
Must have been when we met you. Was it?
40:48
Yeah, I guess maybe it came out then.
40:50
It ruined my week really. You guys left me.
40:53
You're a funny. Grown man, bro.
40:56
We'll be in the bandwagon and they'll they'll like suggest a
40:58
scary movie and. He's legitimately when we were
41:00
just on tour, Nick kept watching scary movies on my Netflix.
41:05
Now my Netflix is all screwed up and I'd be in my bunk, curtain
41:09
closed and I'd have to pee. But we just watched The Nun, so
41:13
I know if I open that curtain, she's going to be standing
41:15
there. So I have to wait till the
41:16
morning to go pee. Then you do that.
41:19
I would not leave my bunk. Why?
41:21
You say? Scary.
41:23
I don't. Get it?
41:25
But you you genuinely think that will happen?
41:27
I'm just saying there's a chance she's out there and I'm not
41:29
taking a. Reason.
41:30
Let me just tell you there is. It's not 0.
41:34
It's fucking pretty there. Is a chance the nun could, yeah.
41:37
But here's the thing. If I stay in my thing, I'm safe.
41:40
If I open that curtain and she is out there, I'm cooked.
41:43
Yeah. Yeah, true.
41:45
Nick is also the type that would go get a nun mask.
41:48
Just exactly. Wait, who's Nick?
41:51
New. New.
41:52
Australian Nick New. Guitar player new.
41:53
Guitar player. What's the story though?
41:55
Or I'll fucking know them. Yeah, I mean, you want me to
41:59
explain the whole back story of that?
42:00
You can. Give me the whole thing.
42:01
I don't know if people don't know, Like, it's probably worth
42:04
it, yeah. I mean, well, basically, you
42:05
know, some years back no one was having problems playing guitar.
42:08
I think we're always on the Thours Murder tour, right?
42:11
Stick to your guns. Stick to your guns.
42:12
And he was like, hey, I think something's wrong.
42:14
I don't know what you're talking about.
42:16
You're doing fine, whatever. By the end of the tour, he was
42:17
like, Nah, something's wrong. Like I can't play guitar
42:21
functionally how I'm supposed to be doing it.
42:23
We're like, OK, well, I don't know.
42:25
Like, I think you're fine. I don't know what to tell you.
42:28
And I mean, maybe that was just what I said.
42:31
I don't know, But that's. Fine fucking man, yeah.
42:33
Just walk around the block real quick.
42:35
He'd be good. But he was like, yeah, no,
42:36
something's wrong. He couldn't.
42:38
He didn't have grip strength for his picking hand and couldn't
42:41
play. It essentially got worse and
42:43
worse and worse to where he couldn't function playing
42:45
guitar. Ended up having to get like neck
42:48
surgery. They like I think they replaced
42:50
some of the discs in his neck. He had like major nerve issues
42:53
that were resulting in his hand atrophy.
42:56
Like this muscle here and this one like the.
42:59
Only ones. Yeah, like literally pretend
43:01
you're holding a pick. It's like here and here, Yeah.
43:05
He just couldn't know where it came from.
43:06
He thinks there's an incident in Europe right before COVID.
43:12
He remembers like kind of tweaking something that just a
43:16
theory. He's not sure.
43:18
And then like, doctors were like, I mean, just your
43:20
lifestyle, like this whole thing, any of it could there.
43:23
There's no like, oh, he fell on his head.
43:26
It was just like, it's kind of up in the air.
43:28
It could. Have been a gradual thing he
43:30
doesn't know. Well, that that's what the guy
43:33
was like. They brought that what you do
43:35
could lead into it. They're like, we just don't have
43:38
the exact answer for you. I.
43:39
Mean there's people that get in in car accidents and just get a
43:41
little bit of whiplash and the next thing you know they're
43:44
fucked for life. You know, you don't know.
43:45
It's just like even. Like Josh from Stig was here.
43:48
Yeah, his same thing. Crazy.
43:49
Half his body's still not. Yeah.
43:52
So when Nick came in was we did that stick to your Grands tour.
43:55
And then like let's say 2 weeks later we're going to Australia
43:59
to tour with Justice for the Damned.
44:01
And maybe like 2 days before, like right before Nolan was
44:06
like, yeah, like I can't hold a pick for more than like 3
44:09
minutes. And I was like, oh shit, what do
44:11
we do? And Nick was like, I already
44:14
know the set. And we'd already known him for
44:16
years prior to we're. Like why do you know the set?
44:19
And he's like, I learned it for fun and COVID.
44:22
Nice, yeah. I was like what the hell?
44:24
He lives in Australia. Blue Mountains of Sydney.
44:26
So you just fly him out for shows?
44:28
Yeah. And I mean, that's The thing is
44:31
like with Nolan, like it's been years and we stayed with him,
44:35
worked through him, tried to get everything going.
44:37
It's just like the body's going to do what the body does.
44:40
And it's one of those things where it's like worst nightmare.
44:42
Yeah. He.
44:43
He's good, though. I mean, he like, he's got two
44:47
daughters. They're like maybe 9 or 10 now.
44:50
Like he's full time dead, man. Yeah.
44:53
Taking care of his kids, doing what he's got to do, like.
44:55
Because he, he, whenever we did that post, like he hit us up on
44:58
the last one was like, hey, fellas, like I think it's time
45:01
coming, but I got a dip and we're all just like, it's
45:04
understandable, man. Like we, we're always going to
45:06
be in your corner. We always love you.
45:08
And I mean, Nick's been playing with us for years and we, we, we
45:11
had a string of people filling in for other stuff too.
45:15
And it, it gets kind of, you know, to be a hassle when
45:17
you're, you're, you're feeling like you're, you're jerking
45:20
everybody around and all this stuff because you always got a
45:22
feeling or like you got to teach somebody this.
45:24
But it's like Nolan legit just couldn't, He couldn't play it.
45:28
It was one of those things like no matter how much we wanted it
45:30
or he was going to PT or doing whatever, It's like until his
45:34
body sorts it out. It just kind of is which, and
45:36
we've always said it's like an open door policy, man.
45:38
You come back anytime you want. It's just like.
45:40
So he's like, he got surgery, did the physical therapy, like
45:44
all that stuff. And they essentially told him
45:46
it's like, hey, you get the surgery.
45:48
You can go, you, you can get back to 100.
45:51
You might hit 60% level out there.
45:53
You might hit 80% power like and he's just not at 100 again.
45:57
I think that he said that they told him that it got to 60%
46:00
installed out. You're probably not going to get
46:02
any better than this right now. Shit.
46:04
That's fucking heartbreaking. How does that affect writing?
46:09
So Nolan was present for the last album but Randy took on a
46:16
massive like Randy. Filled in a couple of times,
46:18
didn't he? Yeah, so I've.
46:20
Never seen him stand up. It's the same with Will Putney.
46:23
Every time I see Putney on stage, I'm like, wait, you can
46:25
do that. Randy rocks.
46:27
I'll say since I've been, I'm the technically before Nick, I'm
46:32
the newest member of Kubel Khan. That's like 11 years.
46:34
Yeah. In those eleven years, we've
46:36
probably had like 12 people fill in on guitar.
46:41
It's pretty crazy because I. Mean whenever he had his his
46:43
daughter too. Yeah, he was gone for like a
46:45
year. Something I guess with like
46:47
someone like Randy though, who's very much like Will like I don't
46:52
know if that specific to Kuber Khan, but Will is like the 5th
46:56
member of straight from the path.
46:57
So when we're. Right.
46:57
Randy's a lot. Of we.
46:59
Are writing like if you took Will Putney away from straight
47:02
from the path people would realize I don't think they
47:05
realize that how much we do with him yeah.
47:07
Producers that can play No. Absolutely, Randy.
47:10
I. Got no fucking riff for this
47:12
section? Well.
47:13
Do the fucking riff. Yeah, Randy, definitely, you
47:16
could argue is that same thing. Oh yeah, without a doubt, man.
47:20
I mean, and that's with oh fucking.
47:23
Did that just move right now it. Turned Yeah, this place.
47:25
Haunted. Thanks.
47:27
You got to tell me right now if there's a ghost in here.
47:31
He. Talks about the nun and then
47:32
shit starts moving around. If that goddamn nun pops out of
47:35
here, you hear that? I do hear that howling there's.
47:41
There's something howling in the headphones right now, I said.
47:45
Fridge. I'm not.
47:46
I'm sure it is. Yeah, sure, it's fridge.
47:48
It's got to be. Are you sure?
47:50
The haunted fridge Listen. I want to send you a fridge.
47:54
It has a beast in it and it must be unleashed.
47:57
You know if anyone will keep some of that in.
48:01
The light moved and Eric's now scared.
48:04
There's a ghost. Yeah, that's what they do.
48:06
We can't prove there's not that's.
48:08
What I want to you got any actual paranormal experiences?
48:12
Yeah, I'll avoid it. What?
48:13
Do you mean you'd avoid it if? Something even starts.
48:16
I'm just walking away. Has anything started that that
48:20
light moving right now? I don't know.
48:23
That's is are you going to be, you see my Milwaukee one?
48:25
Yeah. OK.
48:26
I'm a I'm not he's. Probably heard this a billion
48:28
times. It's a good.
48:29
Story. And these people haven't?
48:31
Well. Here's the thing.
48:31
I don't know what it was. I'm not.
48:33
I always preface with this where it's like I, I it's an
48:36
unexplained event. You'll.
48:38
Know where it is? It's.
48:38
All it is, you know what I mean? So I wake up out of the van,
48:42
right? We're playing the Rave in
48:44
Milwaukee. The Haunted Rave.
48:46
Yeah, OK. Keep in mind, I didn't know it
48:49
was haunted. Nobody told me anything.
48:50
I just walk. I asked some of the guys that
48:52
were like helping load in. I was like, hey, where's the
48:54
bathroom, man? I got to use the bathroom.
48:56
They pointed me to some bathroom that was like down because that
48:59
place was mad. Do you do you know the venue?
49:00
Well, yes. So you know the it's not the
49:03
basement, it's the middle room, Yes.
49:05
And you know, if you're on stage and you just went straight back
49:08
to that back wall, it's that bathroom he's talking about.
49:11
OK, right. And this is the Rave in
49:13
Milwaukee, which is the swimming pool underground, notoriously
49:17
haunted. It's where people have died.
49:20
Someone would kill across the street.
49:22
I forget his name. Jeffrey Dahmer did his first
49:25
victim in that hotel, which means the dragon neck went to
49:27
the hotel room last time we were there.
49:29
You're. Pushing your luck doing that
49:30
shit. We'll come on to that in a
49:32
minute. Go.
49:33
So I don't, I don't think anything.
49:36
I'm just like, hey, I got to use the bathroom, right?
49:37
So I go in that little bathroom and to my knowledge, from what I
49:41
remember and all this shit, two stalls, right?
49:44
And you walk in and the sinks are right in front of you, and
49:46
then the stalls start on the left.
49:48
So you have to kind of cut that corner to get to the stalls,
49:50
right? Yeah, both stall doors are open.
49:52
No big deal. So I sit down, I'm doing my
49:55
business, and I hear somebody come in.
49:57
No big deal. They go in their stall, close
50:00
the stall door. I'm like, you don't even think
50:02
about it when you're in a bathroom because you don't think
50:04
it's going to be haunted. Right at this time, I'm done.
50:07
I'm finishing up, I'm getting out.
50:08
I come out and I use the sink that's closest to the door.
50:11
And it was just one of those weird moments where you're like,
50:15
like, what the hell? And of course, as that's
50:17
happening, out of the corner of my eye, the stall doors open.
50:20
There's nobody in that bathroom. And the thing about that
50:22
bathroom is it's so compact. If someone were to have left, I
50:26
would have heard every bit of it.
50:28
They would have had to have gotten past me because I'm at
50:31
that sink. Unless they're just like the
50:34
stealthiest people in the world, which I don't believe that that
50:37
would have been a thing. I can't explain what I heard.
50:41
There was someone that came into that bathroom, closed the door,
50:43
locked it. What did the footwear sound
50:45
like? I.
50:45
Didn't see any, it was all audio.
50:47
Yeah. What did you, what did it sound
50:48
like? It sound like a like a Victorian
50:50
pair of shoes, like a cloppy cloppy clop or what was like.
50:54
Flip flops? Really.
50:55
No, I don't know it was. Surfer.
50:57
Some surfer that died. But I just, I got this weird
51:00
like where I was like, man, like lip.
51:02
Flops from the pool, drowned in the pool isn't.
51:05
Actually for I don't that's The thing is like, but you can't.
51:08
You just heard someone coming. I.
51:09
Heard somebody coming. I like Jangly.
51:12
It's not like every time. I do know how many shits I take
51:14
and every time I go in a public place, I'm not like, what the
51:16
fuck is this guy wearing? I have to hear everything.
51:18
Like at the time I wasn't thinking of it.
51:20
And I'm like, whoa, OK. A few times.
51:22
I was like, that was weird. I wasn't like, oh, God, I was
51:25
like, that was real strange. Like, that gave me a weird vibe.
51:29
I'm going to like, tell the guys, right?
51:32
So I go outside and I start telling the guys.
51:34
And those loader dudes were like, yeah, you don't know about
51:36
this place. And I was like, what?
51:39
I guess this is like on TV, there's almost haunted places in
51:42
America. And I was like, oh, that would
51:44
have been nice to know because I was like, I don't know what
51:47
happened, but I can't explain what didn't happen.
51:49
Ghost, you know what I'm saying? Ghost poop, quite literally.
51:52
I wonder if you didn't know if it wouldn't have happened.
51:57
I wonder if the ghosts knew. This guy doesn't know where
52:00
haunted. Let's fuck him up.
52:02
I don't know, but that's The thing is like I spent a long
52:05
time after that trying to sort it in my mind and just be like,
52:07
I just missed something. That's the ridiculous.
52:10
I just miss him but it's like. The odds of that happening
52:13
there? That's, well, that's The thing
52:15
is like. No wonder he was scared.
52:17
I don't have an answer. That's why I still to this day
52:19
I'm curious about that particular situation because
52:22
it's like there was no clear answer that jumped out.
52:25
There wasn't something. That was like you went into it
52:27
being like, oh, this place is haunted.
52:29
I hope I see something. You're just trying to go.
52:30
To the yeah, that's what I mean. Dude walking around in there
52:33
when there's no people it feels strange the.
52:35
Swimming pool is terrifying. Yeah, like that bit we've been
52:38
down there. Two or three times, man, and
52:40
every time it's just you don't feel good down there.
52:42
I have one, I'd say true paranormal experience.
52:46
Sorry, Eric. Where so when I was a kid, a
52:51
friend of mine, I had another friend who was like who lived on
52:56
like a, like a, like an old mansion thing.
53:00
So we would all go when he would, when his parents would go
53:04
away, he would throw a party and then we'd all like go through
53:08
our friend and be like, oh, let's go to your mate's house.
53:10
But it was like he went to the posh kids school and we didn't.
53:13
So we'd have to like be like, well, let us go to your mate's
53:14
house. Anyway, we went there broad
53:17
daylight. There's this it's like a old,
53:20
you know, the story, like the wind in the willows.
53:22
You know that story. It's like some it's this old,
53:24
like kids story. Anyway, the book the Manor in
53:28
the wind in the willows, this big toad lives there.
53:30
It's based, this house is based the, the house in the book is
53:34
based on this house. And they've got these big
53:37
outdoor, like outdoor Victorian tennis courts.
53:43
So they're inside their buildings, but there is a tennis
53:46
court inside, but it's like a really, really old Victorian
53:48
building. And we, we went in there in the
53:50
daytime and super spooky because it's like unused and you could
53:57
hear people's shoes squeaking like they were playing tennis.
54:02
And it was like broad daylight. I wasn't high.
54:04
It wasn't anything. And you were with other people,
54:06
with other people. And we were just in there and
54:08
everyone could just hear it. And it was just like every now
54:10
and again you would hear the squeak.
54:12
And then one time we heard like a, or someone trying to get a, a
54:15
like fucking ghost playing tennis.
54:17
It was terrifying. Yeah, and they're just having a
54:20
tennis game. They don't even they.
54:21
Weren't even not scared, you know, it could have been a
54:23
severed. Head.
54:24
Yeah, you could have been. Oh, that's true.
54:25
Take your headphone. And then that same day, later
54:31
than not that night in the kitchen, I was retelling a scene
54:35
from the movie Chopper. Have you ever seen the movie
54:37
Chopper? No, I would love it.
54:39
No, it's it's, it's a Barry. Gore movie or something?
54:41
No, it's Mark Chopper Reed, who is an Australian, the most
54:45
famous Australian criminal of all time.
54:46
He cut his own ears off in jail. Eric Banner plays him.
54:50
It's really funny. It's a great movie.
54:52
Anyway, in this movie, he's like, he gives this guy 10
54:56
seconds to get to a door or a kill him.
54:57
And I was just like reenacting the movie to explain the scene.
55:00
And he just counts to 10 and I count all the way to 10
55:05
explaining the scene. And everyone's laughing and
55:07
like, oh, wow. So like he stops and says 666.
55:09
And I was like, what? And everyone was like, yeah, you
55:13
just counted to 10 and you said 6 three times.
55:16
I was like, no, I didn't. I said six months.
55:17
And every single person in that room was like no you said you
55:19
started on 6/6 times that's why I went 12345666 like the fucking
55:25
heretic anthem. And everyone was like what the
55:27
fuck? And I was like I don't remember
55:29
doing that. And we saw the ghosts earlier
55:30
that day fucking freak me out. Yeah, I feel like that shit
55:34
sticks with you for life too, man.
55:36
Why did he cut his ears off? To try and get moved to a
55:38
different prison and it worked. It's crazy.
55:40
So they think it was crazy. Great.
55:41
Yeah, it's a fucking amazing story.
55:43
I'm going. To get off that part.
55:45
He was listening to our new record.
55:47
The movie is sick. Oh, we should probably talk
55:48
about your record. We've done 56 minutes on 80
55:51
eights. Oh man, Mark, who cares?
55:53
About that, we got to do it. We got to do it.
55:55
You know, they got an album. What's your album called?
55:58
Is it? Exhibition of prowess I want.
55:59
To talk about features, no, you've got 2 features, right?
56:02
Yeah. Dave Peters.
56:04
Yeah. Jamie Jaster.
56:07
Jamie Jaster. I mean, for me would be a golden
56:11
goose bucket list feature, Yeah. Was that the case?
56:16
And do you have other golden goose features that you would
56:20
like to get? Yeah, I thought, I thought it
56:22
was dope. I in retrospect, I kind of wish
56:25
that like I could have given him a more like showcasey part, you
56:28
know what I mean? But with the record and the what
56:31
we wrote and all that stuff, it was kind of like at the time
56:33
that felt like a pretty good spot for it.
56:35
And I, I think it's dope. I think you could put him
56:37
anywhere and it's going to be dope, you know what I mean?
56:39
His voice is just amazing. Did he write his lyrics or did
56:41
you write his lyrics for him? No, I wrote him.
56:43
You write him and said Jamie Justice Singers.
56:45
Yeah. And he was firing him.
56:47
Yeah, it was dope sick. I know.
56:49
Well, you said that Somebody you'd like to have on you.
56:51
Yeah, man, I was thinking I was telling this and I want to get
56:54
Randy Bly Blythe. I think they'd be sick because
56:56
we just. Yeah, we did a track with them
56:59
they released, as well as with Alex from Malevolence, so I
57:03
think they'd be pretty dope. Even having Alex on it would be
57:05
dope. I was on their fucking record.
57:07
Oh God. Oh fuck.
57:09
I could do it. I'm in.
57:10
All right. Come on, I'm in.
57:11
Randy, I'm in. You've been you Got anyone that
57:13
you'd love to have on? Has anyone ever said no?
57:16
Not really. I don't think so.
57:18
We haven't really asked a ton of people.
57:20
I'm more into like, there's no like golden goose, like I don't
57:24
look up to anyone that much in that sense.
57:27
But like for me, like, OK. Like when we had like, Zach from
57:33
Left Behind and Jay, yeah, I'll say reign supreme Jay because
57:36
that's how I knew him. Yeah, like since they're
57:39
friends. Not Barbara Jay.
57:40
Well, it could be Barbara Jay. Could be Barbara Jay NJ lot of
57:44
Jays, a lot of like to me, like those I love Reign Supreme, I
57:50
love Left behind. So for me, those were cool
57:52
because it's like, these are my friends and I'd like love their
57:54
music. So like stuff for that gets me
57:57
more excited as opposed to just like a big name.
58:00
Not that the big name stuff's not cool, but you?
58:02
Must have someone that you would love.
58:05
We asked Zack Villarroca on every single fucking album and
58:08
he says no it doesn't. It doesn't even get as far.
58:10
Same with Gino, every album. They say no.
58:13
Doesn't even get there, I don't think.
58:15
Like you don't think it actually makes it to them personally I
58:17
think. So just go and just say no.
58:19
If if it's just like just to say it's there, Weird Al would be
58:23
sick but that like. He.
58:25
Say you guys would be shocked how much we listen to Weird Al.
58:29
We are about to me. Weird.
58:30
Al, you've seen the movie. Have you seen the movie?
58:33
I actually. Haven't seen the movie?
58:34
Here's. The Movie.
58:35
Oh my God, he wrote someone. Where he's wearing like the
58:37
Rambo goose suit. It No, it's not actually him.
58:41
Oh oh, you're talking about fella from Harry Potter plays.
58:44
Yeah, no, I haven't seen that. Weird Al has a movie of him
58:48
being silly. Oh, no, I'm talking about the
58:51
Daniel Radcliffe Weird Al. No, it's written.
58:55
I'm pretty sure it's written by Weird Al.
58:57
And it's like his autobiography, but it's completely fake.
59:01
Like he dates Madonna and shit like that.
59:03
It's fucking awesome. Yeah.
59:05
Do we know his real name? Oh, Weird Al.
59:08
Weird Al Yankovic, real name. Please.
59:12
It's probably just an Al Yankovic.
59:13
You're a fucking movie head. That movie's great.
59:16
And you're like weird Yao. Yeah, weird Yao weird.
59:19
You're like Will Will weird Yao Ankovich.
59:22
Yeah. Alfred Matthew Yankovic.
59:25
That's my boy. That's Weird Al.
59:27
He's imagine him over a breakdown.
59:28
What would you get him to do? Would you get him to do an old
59:32
song? Definitely some accordion.
59:33
I wouldn't. Want him to put us in his next
59:36
angry wipe of polka remix? Yeah.
59:39
Like if he could do one of our songs, I'd love that.
59:42
That could happen. Yeah, that song plays probably
59:46
two or three times a tour. We play it.
59:47
We all know all the words. Albuquerque.
59:49
Yeah, Play Albuquerque. Oh.
59:52
We've listened to these songs in the past 48 hours.
59:54
We we listened to a lot of Wesley Willis.
59:58
Who? Wesley Willis?
59:59
Rock'n'roll McDonald's. Oh yeah.
1:00:02
Nolan loved him. He.
1:00:03
Passed away, I heard. ROP Yeah, sorry man.
1:00:06
We thank you. We also listen to a lot of, I
1:00:11
guess, music that's not good, but it's funny to be to listen
1:00:16
to it. So like what?
1:00:17
Like, I mean, arguably it's not good.
1:00:22
I want to talk about me by. Want to talk about Toby Keith?
1:00:26
Toby Keith. I knew you'd be.
1:00:29
Married to him is it? Dead.
1:00:30
Yes, when he died. I think last year.
1:00:33
Oh, so I can talk shit, I guess. ROP, Toby Keith.
1:00:37
But like, we heard that in a gas station and we were like, this
1:00:40
is the most ridiculous song I've ever heard.
1:00:41
And then we listened to it on repeat for like the whole of a
1:00:45
drive. Do you?
1:00:46
Remember Kazaa? Yep.
1:00:48
The the illegal streaming or whatever it was back then.
1:00:51
Yep, that was the first thing I tried to download.
1:00:53
Was the music video for that song.
1:00:55
Really. Yeah.
1:00:57
Mine was pornography. Mine.
1:00:59
Was was Toby Keith? Why the video just to?
1:01:02
Say yeah, I like music videos. What?
1:01:04
Happens in the music video. He's talking about him, you
1:01:09
know. Mine was that this actually gets
1:01:10
reference on another episode which I don't think is out by
1:01:13
now. First thing I ever searched for
1:01:16
on Cazar was lesbian porn and I just put it in and there's a
1:01:23
Janet Jameson video that's just burned into my retinas when I
1:01:27
was about 13 at the time I. Was like working on blinking
1:01:29
park and shit. I don't remember because it was
1:01:33
like. Limewire because pirate.
1:01:35
Bay. Right, Morpheus.
1:01:36
They were all the same. All the same, I was.
1:01:38
Like ringing a bell. How old are you 33 How?
1:01:41
Old are you 30? 4 How old are?
1:01:43
You Maybe it was in that golden year there. 38 fucking old boys.
1:01:48
I'm old. I remember Napster.
1:01:50
Yeah, See, I had all my music on Napster.
1:01:51
Well. Napster was the one that went
1:01:53
illegal, right? And then no.
1:01:55
What was the one I? Thought he was Justin Timberlake
1:01:57
in that movie. He was you know what, Someone
1:02:00
bought Napster recently for like $200 million.
1:02:05
Do you know about the prison iPad music app thing?
1:02:09
The what? Just have a friend who had a
1:02:12
friend in jail and I guess they he had like an iPad and they
1:02:16
have like a streaming app for them really.
1:02:19
And he was like, oh, like I listen to your buddies band
1:02:22
Kubla Khan. He's like that was cool.
1:02:25
And he's like, like, what songs do they have?
1:02:28
I was laughing. Because they they don't give
1:02:29
them the like hit. Where they go?
1:02:31
It was like like river Walker and like Saltwater, like track
1:02:36
like 8 and 10 off albums. They're not giving them like.
1:02:38
Wait so it's like a it's a legal streaming thing for all?
1:02:41
I know is he had some form of iPad and they give them some
1:02:45
type of music streaming app but they don't give them the hit
1:02:47
they don't give. Them the hit, it's just like the
1:02:49
karaoke like. They'll they'll give you like
1:02:52
the B sides. You're not kidding like I.
1:02:54
Wonder if that's a publishing thing.
1:02:56
Some people are just like, we can't give them the good songs,
1:02:58
they're criminals, let's give them fucking track A.
1:03:00
Punishment thing like you have to sit through river Walker.
1:03:05
But it's just like when he told me the songs, I was like, that's
1:03:07
crazy. I was like, I don't think we've
1:03:08
played any of those live ever. Yeah, that's funny.
1:03:11
Well, yeah, it's kind of cool that that they can listen to our
1:03:14
shit in there, but I do wish that we could listen to
1:03:16
something better than that. We got a lot of songs.
1:03:19
I just. Thought it was interesting.
1:03:20
I was like, that's kind of funny.
1:03:22
If, if it's on purpose, if it's like, if there's someone
1:03:25
overseeing that being like. I was thinking like, like I'm 30
1:03:29
minutes. It was like an illegal thing.
1:03:30
But like, how are you sneaking an iPad out there?
1:03:32
No, I would imagine it's kind of like the jukebox at like Waffle
1:03:35
House. Like they just have like a
1:03:36
certain amount of shit and what you gets what you get.
1:03:39
When you're on your way out, like you're being good, you're
1:03:41
not like in like hard lockdown. It's like you got, yeah, like a
1:03:44
little iPad something. Pretty cool.
1:03:47
It might be like an achievement you get or something for being
1:03:49
good. You can unlock the iPad.
1:03:51
For this tunes, that's actually quite nice.
1:03:54
It's not the hits though. Not the hits.
1:03:55
You must listen to the B. Sides, it's all the flunky
1:03:58
songs. It's all.
1:03:59
You need to talk about your new fucking album.
1:04:01
We need to. We need to fucking talk about.
1:04:03
It if we have to. Give me the Give me the story.
1:04:06
I have to pretend that I that you haven't answered this a
1:04:09
million times the. Story.
1:04:11
Empire 2. Go ahead.
1:04:14
So you no one cares about talking about their band's
1:04:17
music, but these people care. The rough idea for Ampile to
1:04:23
it's kind of been in a long time making so originally.
1:04:28
How bored he is. I had.
1:04:31
Steve, I hate our shit. I had Steve send me Ampile
1:04:37
backwards because I was going to make classic.
1:04:40
Steve moves. Exactly because I wanted to,
1:04:42
but. We already had it I.
1:04:43
Wanted to make a video of just like trying to hypnotize someone
1:04:47
with ampile backwards because I thought it'd be funny and then I
1:04:51
was like oh ha ha that is funny. Never got made but I still have
1:04:54
the track. And then I think it was just a
1:04:57
conversation. One day I was like it'd be cool
1:04:59
to do amp pile but with an actual breakdown.
1:05:03
Example one's not quite a breakdown.
1:05:06
Arguably the whole thing is a breakdown, yeah.
1:05:09
It's not your standard mom and pop breakdown.
1:05:12
It's not. Ampile taking it even further
1:05:15
back. Ampile was never supposed to
1:05:17
exist. It was a joke.
1:05:18
If it didn't exist I'd be so mad when.
1:05:20
We go ahead. You've heard the remix from the
1:05:23
studio, right? No.
1:05:25
With the trumpet that. Was that was.
1:05:27
Another that was. Steve, that was.
1:05:29
Steve and Manny do. You remember Manny?
1:05:31
Yeah. Yeah, he played.
1:05:32
Trumpet. We recorded Ampile.
1:05:35
We went to bed. What real trumpet?
1:05:36
I thought there was gonna be a There's a trumpet you'll.
1:05:38
Have to hear it. It's a trumpet.
1:05:40
It's crazy. And then we went to bed, woke up
1:05:42
the next one, and there was like in the Dropbox, like Ampile
1:05:46
remix. This is a classic Steve move.
1:05:48
But go on with Ampile too. You're good.
1:05:50
Well. The original Ampile when we when
1:05:52
we first were kicking off this is before we had a record or
1:05:55
anything we had we wrote 5 songs all bullshit.
1:06:00
They never ended up using any of them.
1:06:02
This was so far back but we wrote amp pile but we were like
1:06:05
this is too stupid we can't ever release this.
1:06:09
This is a joke. This is.
1:06:10
Pretty me. So I've been in 11 years, they
1:06:13
wrote this. Before I was one of our oldest
1:06:16
songs, and that was years ago. And then whenever we were
1:06:20
writing Nomad, when it was on it, we were like, well, we
1:06:22
should put an intro on shit. And we're like, whoa, we have
1:06:25
Ant pile and I think that it was.
1:06:27
Always called Ant pile. Yeah, and we prefaced it.
1:06:31
I don't fucking know. That was like probably the
1:06:33
working title. We have a lot of songs like,
1:06:35
like he said with the Hammer, The Hammer.
1:06:38
That was the working title for that song, because we were.
1:06:41
When we recorded Nomad, we watched all the matrixes.
1:06:43
Yeah, so they were all named after the ships.
1:06:46
In the matrix. From the Matrix, though, at
1:06:47
least three of the songs were. So then at one point, the
1:06:50
working two, we were right in the hammer and we're all just
1:06:53
call this one the hammer. And then like problem got done
1:06:55
and that was like, yeah, the hammer works.
1:06:57
Yeah, nice. Probably because I didn't want
1:06:58
to take the energy to try and rename it to something better,
1:07:01
but it worked. Didn't you do a hammer for merch
1:07:03
as well? Yeah.
1:07:05
Kind of sick. Why do you hate everything your
1:07:07
band does? I don't.
1:07:08
I love it you. Didn't.
1:07:09
Yeah, we did that. That's cool.
1:07:10
We didn't know shit. It's cool.
1:07:12
Yeah, well, you you write a song called a hammer.
1:07:14
You should release a hammer. Yeah, well, we did Ant pile very
1:07:18
least one of those we. Just did.
1:07:19
Did you see the the? Ant farm the.
1:07:21
Little vinyl we just put out, we did. 7 inch covered in ants.
1:07:24
Oh yeah, and it's Ant pile one and Ant pile 2 and that's it.
1:07:27
Does it have ants in it? No, you didn't do the jar of
1:07:30
that was. Discussed, but then it was like,
1:07:33
no. Did you?
1:07:33
Ever see the ones where they have like blood in it?
1:07:35
Yes. It's cool if those ants.
1:07:38
Jar of flies has like they were dead flies.
1:07:42
You know it's one of those. Should have done that, boys.
1:07:44
There was a genuine thought of would people like, be mad?
1:07:49
Animal cruelty because there's ants and shit.
1:07:51
I'm not a scientist, I don't know.
1:07:53
And it was brought up. Animal cruelty.
1:07:56
And let me tell you that ants for CNN.
1:07:59
I'm sorry, it's dead. Yeah, especially.
1:08:02
Fucking God damn house. I I imagine Scott Lee trying to
1:08:05
find like a an Ant harvesting farm be like, we need 10,000
1:08:08
ants now we're fucking printing them on vinyl.
1:08:11
I mean, there's a lot of ants around, yeah.
1:08:13
Another good Scott looking for an animal.
1:08:18
The hammer was never supposed to be the single for Nomad.
1:08:21
Really, it was. Supposed to be belligerent but
1:08:25
music video for belligerent needed to have a rat in it.
1:08:28
There was like a rat shortage in LA.
1:08:29
Really like a you got to release the hammer first.
1:08:32
That music video is done. No rats.
1:08:34
What's crazy is I love when he tells stories like this, 'cause
1:08:37
I don't remember. Yeah, you.
1:08:38
Checked out. It's like we did.
1:08:40
Keep checking we did you want to be here?
1:08:42
You want to go. No, I'm, I'm we.
1:08:43
Did both songs at the door in Dallas.
1:08:46
Like we ran to the venue. Did like all the live shit for
1:08:49
it and it was like, yeah, a bludgeon.
1:08:51
We're going to get like a rat. And we're like, yeah, OK, cool.
1:08:53
Rats are cool. Pretty sure the rat was just
1:08:55
stock footage though. They didn't even film a rat, no.
1:08:57
They had to or I don't remember, but either way they were
1:09:00
struggling to find a rat so they were like hey, in the meantime.
1:09:04
All the rats were booked up we. Just got to put the hammer out.
1:09:06
Jacob Lily was busy. And now, now the Hammer was like
1:09:13
the fucking biggest song. Which we did not expect when it
1:09:16
came out it. Wasn't it?
1:09:18
Wasn't we were just like, oh. OK, that's cool, man.
1:09:20
And then that was the song that popped and we were like, damn,
1:09:22
good move. Because we didn't think that was
1:09:24
going to be the track. We thought Belligerent was going
1:09:26
to be the track. Thank God there were no rats.
1:09:28
Thank. God, there were no rats.
1:09:30
While we're on Nomad then can you give me the 8 year story?
1:09:33
Can you can you give me that? What aspect?
1:09:37
Ideally the whole thing. So from what I understand, yeah,
1:09:42
the song is about, I don't know the specifics.
1:09:50
Someone who did something very personal to you.
1:09:55
Yeah. And you call him out by name.
1:09:58
Yes. In the song, Yeah.
1:10:00
And I don't want to. I don't as a respect, I don't
1:10:03
want to like say what I think it is because I could be I.
1:10:06
Can give you like. Give me the.
1:10:08
Give me the. Picture here.
1:10:09
So just I remember the year exactly.
1:10:12
Well, never No Mac came out. It was eight years.
1:10:15
Ago it was 22,009. OK, yeah, so my brother was
1:10:20
driving home from his girlfriend's house and a drunk
1:10:23
driver ran a red light and killed him.
1:10:26
Yeah, fuck. Yeah, that's what I thought it
1:10:28
was and I didn't want to like. So I might actually, I think 8
1:10:32
years is also the the the sentence he got.
1:10:36
So I think it was like it was 8 years since it happened and he
1:10:39
only got 8 years for it. OK.
1:10:41
Insane. Yeah, so at that point, me being
1:10:44
in the band, I didn't do much on new strength because I was like,
1:10:49
brand new to the band, kind of in the studio.
1:10:51
You're just kind of like, I don't even know what I'm doing
1:10:53
here. Like, this is crazy.
1:10:55
So Nomad came around, You know, we have all these songs, Matt's
1:10:57
writing lyrics. So I kind of like, take a swing
1:10:59
at 1:00. And then yeah, like that night I
1:11:02
wrote eight years and I was like, hey, like, I don't know if
1:11:05
this is cool, you know, still kind of new to the band.
1:11:08
Like, do you like this idea? And everyone's like, yeah, this
1:11:09
is sick. Like, we like it.
1:11:12
Yeah, so wrote that song has sick breakdown in it.
1:11:16
Full government name call out. Yeah, it's the hardest thing
1:11:20
I've ever heard. So recent now.
1:11:24
Yeah, that dude, Facebook messaged me this past December.
1:11:31
Fucking hell. And the the.
1:11:34
Guy. This guy that killed your
1:11:36
brother? Yeah.
1:11:37
And just goes like the message says, yo, are you Sean's
1:11:41
brother? And in my head, I'm like, you
1:11:44
know who I am? Like, that's such a, like, if an
1:11:46
apology is on its way, like, crazy way to start it.
1:11:49
Yeah. Yo, it's fucking.
1:11:52
Insane. So in my head I'm like, I like,
1:11:55
I'm never going to respond, like I, I don't need to hear it, you
1:11:58
know, blah, blah, blah. So then it I have a flashback
1:12:04
now to a few months before that at my tattoo shop, there was a
1:12:08
bad review and someone was like hey, like send a picture of the
1:12:12
Google review and they're like hey, like who did this one?
1:12:15
Like this person's pissed. And I look at the name and at
1:12:20
the time I was like, I have no idea who that is.
1:12:22
This dude DMS me months later and I it all starts coming back
1:12:27
to me. I'm like holy shit, that's his
1:12:29
wife so. Tattooed his wife it it.
1:12:31
Wasn't me, I don't know who did the tattoo, but in my SO now I'm
1:12:35
like, holy shit. I wonder if this dude like could
1:12:38
have been sitting right next to me in the the tattoo shop I work
1:12:41
at. And then I was also kind of
1:12:43
laughing. It was like, it's kind of funny.
1:12:44
His wife gets I've had tattoo. I'm like, yeah, well, you kind
1:12:49
of married a guy that killed someone.
1:12:51
You know, I'm not probably plenty of other people out there
1:12:53
that haven't done that. Was it legitimately a bad tattoo
1:12:56
though? Because you said someone came in
1:12:57
and said who did this one? This is not cool.
1:13:00
There's no picture. It was just like they're like
1:13:02
I'm, I'm not happy. But yeah, just like all came
1:13:05
circle. I was like looking at the name,
1:13:07
looked at the D, like the Facebook message, yeah, put it
1:13:10
all together. I was like, it's.
1:13:11
Insane. What would he have done if he
1:13:14
was in the same room? I'm not an aggressive person.
1:13:17
So I mean, I don't. I really don't.
1:13:18
That's why I didn't message him back, because in my head I was
1:13:20
like, what do you say? Yeah, because, like, people are
1:13:22
calling. Forgiveness is the first step.
1:13:24
I'm like, I'm good, you know, Like, yeah, you know, like me,
1:13:27
my family, you know, we're doing us.
1:13:30
I got my own family. Now I'm doing that.
1:13:32
I don't. I don't need to talk to him.
1:13:34
So he just left it. Yeah, because what could you say
1:13:36
as you. Would.
1:13:37
Yeah. And also opening with Yahoo like
1:13:39
I know my name. The message was.
1:13:40
I don't want to invite in this apology but like yo what's up
1:13:43
man? Like I know you killed your
1:13:44
brother, but. Well, not only that, but it's
1:13:46
like Facebook's pretty good with that stuff.
1:13:48
There's like a, you click it, it's like siblings.
1:13:52
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mutual friends.
1:13:53
It's. Pretty fucking easy I.
1:13:54
Think you know who I am? I.
1:13:56
Wonder if you've seen the lyric? The extra crazy part of the
1:13:58
thing, I had a friend or just an acquaintance I ran into.
1:14:02
I hadn't seen him in years and he was like talking to me.
1:14:06
He was at a counterpart show in Philly.
1:14:08
And then I was like, oh man, good seeing this guy.
1:14:10
I haven't seen him in like 10 years.
1:14:12
Crazy. Then he finished the
1:14:14
conversation and goes, hey man, this is going to sound weird,
1:14:17
but like I'm actually friends with like Thomas.
1:14:20
Like he's actually not like a bad dude.
1:14:22
In my head. I was like, OK.
1:14:26
Again, insane saying that to you.
1:14:27
Yeah, I was like, that's. A bad dude.
1:14:29
He just like, that's crazy. You just said that to me.
1:14:32
That's and I haven't talked to that guy since.
1:14:34
So I was like, that's fuck. But now I wonder if that was
1:14:36
like he was like, oh, told him that's why I messaged me.
1:14:40
Yeah. Fuck.
1:14:41
That's one of those things you just just leave it, man.
1:14:44
There's nothing to fucking say. I.
1:14:45
Mean you wrote a fucking song about it.
1:14:47
Yeah, I put it out there. His name?
1:14:49
Like I got to say, it's the hardest thing.
1:14:52
I think anybody like your man is renowned for being fucking hard
1:14:56
anyway. But when someone told me the
1:14:59
story behind that song, I was like, this is like the hardest
1:15:01
thing I've ever read in my life. Yeah, full government fucking
1:15:04
name. And then that fucking slammer of
1:15:06
a breakdown. So sick.
1:15:08
Yeah, yeah. And it was at the time too, it
1:15:11
felt good to finally like, contribute something musically
1:15:14
to the band and. That was the thing.
1:15:15
Like he said, whenever he came to us with that song, I was
1:15:17
like, yeah, man, if this is something you feel really
1:15:20
strongly about, no one would stand in your way on that.
1:15:22
Like, go for it. It's.
1:15:23
Like, obviously it's, I'm fucking like horrified to happen
1:15:26
to you, but it's not like coming to the table with like, I want
1:15:28
to write a song about how like, they're putting chemicals in
1:15:32
drinks. Like, it's not like a lame, it's
1:15:34
like a fucking lame idea. Yeah.
1:15:36
It's like, yeah, here's this fucking horrible thing.
1:15:39
Yeah. It was nice.
1:15:40
It, like I said, it felt good doing that and then also like,
1:15:44
that's a pretty good song. Great song.
1:15:46
It's a fucking bank. It's an absolute banger.
1:15:49
Tell me about the single you just reported.
1:15:50
Yeah, well, it's, I mean, we're just doing a single for right
1:15:53
now because we just did the record.
1:15:55
And my father, I say father and uncle because he's my he's my
1:16:00
great uncle, but he is my grandma's brother.
1:16:03
But he's my adopted father, OK? He's.
1:16:06
Say all of that again for me. My grandma's brother is my
1:16:10
adopted father. He adopted me when I was 18.
1:16:14
I grew up with him since I was about 3 years old.
1:16:17
He's best man I've ever known. My best friend always will be.
1:16:20
No one will ever top it, right? If people follow me on Instagram
1:16:23
or anything like that, they've I posted stuff because he I had to
1:16:27
move back to Texas to try and help take care of him.
1:16:31
But it's, it was mostly just to spend time with him because it
1:16:34
wasn't the kind of situation where there was a lot of he
1:16:37
needed, he needed care on the way out.
1:16:38
It wasn't like there was much to do, you know, because he was 91.
1:16:42
He had cancer already for three to four years.
1:16:44
Like he was, he was doing everything he could, you know
1:16:47
what I mean? But that's what the song is
1:16:48
about. Just like it was really eye
1:16:51
opening for me because I've lost.
1:16:53
I was talking to matters. They're like, I'm the last one
1:16:55
in my family. Like if, if, if I were to to get
1:16:59
a wife and you know, I, I meet her parents and her side of the
1:17:02
family, it's like, OK, yeah, cool.
1:17:04
And when it's my turn for them to meet mine, I have nobody.
1:17:07
You know what I mean? No one.
1:17:08
Nobody. Zero.
1:17:09
That's it. He was the last guy.
1:17:11
Holy shit you. Know what I'm saying?
1:17:12
And it's one of those things where it's like watching him
1:17:17
die, you know what I mean? But I don't know how to explain
1:17:21
it without sounding cheesy. But it's like, it was so strong,
1:17:25
you know what I'm saying? And I, I, this, this is a dude
1:17:27
that I used to before I had friends when I was a little kid,
1:17:30
would have sleepovers with him and hang out and he'd read to me
1:17:34
and just grew up with this guy, right?
1:17:37
But when you're in the position where it's like now I'm looking
1:17:39
down at you want a bed, your bones and you're dying.
1:17:42
You know what I mean? You don't know what's going on
1:17:44
or who I am and all this shit. But he's still just like, to the
1:17:48
end was strong. And we ended up going to Europe
1:17:52
and doing all that because we've still had our, our European
1:17:55
headliner. And I'd already talked to the
1:17:57
the nurses and stuff at the nursing home and I was like,
1:18:01
Hey, you guys deal with this a lot.
1:18:04
You guys know when someone's on the way out, be real with me.
1:18:09
And this lady, just stone cold rule of me, she was just like,
1:18:12
yeah, he's going to die. Like she said that a lot of
1:18:15
people will wait until their family isn't around anymore
1:18:19
because they don't want them to see it or to hurt or whatever
1:18:22
the case is. She's like, you come up here
1:18:25
every day. You've been coming up here every
1:18:27
day to spend time with him since he's been here.
1:18:29
He's holding on, you know what I'm saying?
1:18:33
And that's kind of what the song is about.
1:18:34
And sure as shit, we go to Europe, we land in Germany,
1:18:37
right? We go to sleep that night, I
1:18:40
wake up the my phone was on the floor too, so I'm not hearing
1:18:43
it. I had calls from the nursing
1:18:44
home and one of our family friends and I already knew it.
1:18:48
I was like, OK, they're, they're calling me for one reason.
1:18:50
What is it? So call them back and they're
1:18:52
like, hey, he's dying. Like, do you want to you want
1:18:56
to, you know, what do you want us to do?
1:18:58
Kind of shit? And I was like, wow, I'm going
1:19:00
to go home guys. Like find a fill in.
1:19:02
We had Jay from guilt trip fill in.
1:19:04
He fucking smoked it, saved the tour, saved all that shit
1:19:07
because I was like, right. Fucking dude, yeah.
1:19:10
The whole band, everybody's great, you know what I mean?
1:19:12
And my band knew that that I had to go.
1:19:15
There's no, there's no force on planet Earth that was going to
1:19:18
restrain me when it came to that shit.
1:19:19
Because he was still alive. They said they had to put him on
1:19:22
oxygen and all this stuff. And I was like, man, like you
1:19:25
just start thinking about all the times you had where you're
1:19:27
like, fuck, this is it Like there's actually now a point of
1:19:32
exit. You know what I'm saying?
1:19:35
So I we, we stayed at a hotel. It was at the airport, right?
1:19:38
So I had to go back straight into the airport that we came
1:19:41
into. And this guy, I don't know his
1:19:43
name, don't know who he was till this day.
1:19:44
I'll never forget him for the rest of my life.
1:19:47
Got me on. I just told him roughly the
1:19:50
situation. I was like, I got to get on a
1:19:52
plane man, and he sorted it fucking on his computer running
1:19:56
the places, got it done, got me on a flight within like 20
1:20:00
minutes of leaving or whatever the case is right?
1:20:03
So I went. Where were we at?
1:20:04
It was. You literally were in Europe for
1:20:07
like 12 hours. Yeah, it was just fly to Canada.
1:20:10
Yeah, we did out of Germany to Dublin, Dublin to Montreal,
1:20:14
Montreal to Dallas. So I'm, I'm like OK, every time
1:20:17
we land and I get Wi-Fi, I'm like what's what's going on?
1:20:20
Everything's cool. They're like he's asleep, he's
1:20:21
just stable, whatever, you know, I'm sorry, I keep burping.
1:20:26
It's fine. And we land in Dallas and I'm
1:20:31
getting my shit. And my family friend calls me
1:20:33
and she's like, mad. I'm like, God, all right, why?
1:20:37
I already know. OK.
1:20:39
She's like, yeah, he he died about an hour ago.
1:20:41
So I was probably over Texas soil when he passed.
1:20:47
And this, this kind of leads me to the point where the song is
1:20:50
about this moment is why I'm talking about it.
1:20:53
But she was like, OK, well, Fisher Funeral Home can either
1:20:56
take the body and you don't have to see it, you don't have to do
1:21:00
anything. You can see them whenever they
1:21:02
clean them up and do all this shit.
1:21:03
Or I can request and keep in mind this was midnight one in
1:21:07
the morning ish. And I still have to go from the
1:21:09
Dallas airport to where I live. And my best friend was already
1:21:12
waiting for me at the airport. He was picking me up to swoop me
1:21:15
back and all this. And I was like, yeah, leave the
1:21:17
body. Like I want to see him, You know
1:21:19
what I mean? And it was just nuts because I
1:21:21
go there, it's late at night, everybody's asleep.
1:21:24
The lights are all dim. The nurses just, like, start
1:21:27
crying. They're looking at me, like,
1:21:29
sobbing. And I, I love the guy more than
1:21:31
I've ever loved anybody in my life.
1:21:32
And I was like, it's OK. Like, it's going to be all
1:21:35
right. You know what I mean?
1:21:36
Thank you guys for everything. So I go to the room.
1:21:38
His roommate is a guy named James, sweetest man on planet
1:21:42
Earth. They even asked him like, hey,
1:21:45
do you not want to be in the room while he's dying?
1:21:47
And he was like, no, I want to be right next to him.
1:21:50
Like, that's my friend and it fucked me up, you know what I'm
1:21:52
saying? So I go in there and James is in
1:21:55
there. He sees me, we hug and shit, and
1:21:58
I just sit there with him. And my uncle's body is right
1:22:01
there. And it's so wild just seeing the
1:22:05
person that you love most on earth gone.
1:22:09
But they're still there, you know what I mean?
1:22:11
And it was the thing. I remember touching his ears.
1:22:13
I'm like touching his hair. And it just looked like he was
1:22:15
asleep. They'd taken all the stuff off
1:22:18
of him. They pulled the blanket up.
1:22:19
He was looking good and it was just this, there's certain
1:22:22
things that occur in your life. I think that that really they'll
1:22:25
just jerk you in a different direction and your life is now
1:22:28
going that direction. That was one of those moments
1:22:30
and I, I thank Larissa, she's a family friend for telling me to
1:22:35
leave the body because seeing him and I was just like, dude,
1:22:38
like that's him. That's that's the guy that
1:22:41
taught me how to be me, how to how to love, how to hate all
1:22:46
this shit like is through him. And now he's gone.
1:22:50
And that's basically what the song is about.
1:22:51
Like the song is called the Mountain of Corsicana, which
1:22:55
Corsicana is where he was buried because that's where his
1:22:57
family's buried. And basically he's the mountain,
1:23:00
you know what I mean? And it's just like that dude was
1:23:03
all of like 5 foot 65 foot 5, just the, but like spiritually
1:23:09
tallest guy I've ever met. Just a fucking beast.
1:23:13
A mountain. A mountain, you know what I'm
1:23:14
saying? And it's like.
1:23:15
I fucking need a crock there I'm.
1:23:17
Not, I'm not trying to get too deep on it.
1:23:18
It's like. Oh, close up.
1:23:23
It's just. Fucking tear joke.
1:23:25
This might be the only time I ever get to explain what that
1:23:27
song is about and why it means so much to me.
1:23:29
Plus, it's a rocking track. It's got breakdowns and shit,
1:23:32
you know what I mean? It's.
1:23:32
Hard to like when we were in Europe, like trying to relay
1:23:37
that to people too, because it's like we didn't want to cancel.
1:23:41
Yeah, yeah, Because, you know, guilt trips or not guilt trip,
1:23:45
you know, like gates to hell, like everyone on the tour, like
1:23:47
they're all screwed out of my. So it's like we got to make this
1:23:49
work. But like trying to explain that
1:23:51
that's. The first time in Europe as
1:23:53
well. Was it or No, It's not.
1:23:55
They've been before. But like, a big fucking tour.
1:23:57
But it was just like we didn't want to hurt anyone else and.
1:24:00
When I had specifically told them.
1:24:01
We went into this tour like, like every tour we've done in
1:24:05
the past year. There's been that, hey?
1:24:07
There's the chance you know, and I told them no matter what,
1:24:12
doesn't matter what the fuck I'm doing, do not stop the tour.
1:24:15
I can handle what's back home. I can sort it.
1:24:19
I had the whole situation up through his funeral and burial,
1:24:23
them giving me his military flag, all that shit within 5
1:24:26
days. And then I came back, did the
1:24:29
rest of the tour, and everybody was a sweetheart to me.
1:24:32
It honestly helped the healing process with a lot of that shit
1:24:34
because I'm still not over it. I may never be over it
1:24:37
completely because it's just life.
1:24:38
That's what happens. But it's like, he's exactly
1:24:40
right. Like we were just like, keep the
1:24:42
train moving, man, Because that's why he would have wanted
1:24:43
to, you know what I mean? He knows it's coming.
1:24:45
I know it's coming. We prepared for that, but it's
1:24:47
like, you know, it sounds corny, but like the show must go on
1:24:51
still, you know what I mean? I want to like, obviously you
1:24:54
don't have to explain this, but you said there's moments in your
1:24:58
life where you go on a different trajectory, sure because of
1:25:01
something and you said that that was one of them.
1:25:03
Do you know which sort of different direction you took or
1:25:07
just your out outlook on life was different?
1:25:10
What? What changed?
1:25:11
Yeah, I mean, essentially it just it, it just changed how I
1:25:14
view all this shit. I mean, it's one of those things
1:25:16
where I, I've, I've always been close with him.
1:25:19
He was always, even growing up, like the house that I lived in
1:25:23
when we were growing up had like 8 of us.
1:25:25
He was my guy. If I needed advice, if I needed
1:25:29
stuff, unfortunately, like I didn't go to my mom, I didn't go
1:25:32
to my grandma, I went to him. He, he was the one that I wanted
1:25:36
to model myself after. So the biggest thing for me was
1:25:39
when he passed, it's now like now you got to do it.
1:25:43
Now it's on you. You have no one to ask.
1:25:45
You have no one to lean on. And it was the first time my
1:25:48
entire life that I felt like I'm alone.
1:25:51
You know what I mean? Like, this is it.
1:25:53
I, I now no longer have someone to fall back on like
1:25:56
emotionally, socially, like he was always there.
1:26:00
So it was a, it was a big pivotal point where it's like,
1:26:01
Nah, man. Like you got to, you got to
1:26:02
clean this shit up. Like you got to start doing
1:26:04
better for yourself. Start thinking about your own
1:26:06
future. You know what I mean?
1:26:08
And I mean with him, like I said, being really my only
1:26:12
family member that I, I had, that I fucked with and wanted to
1:26:15
have in my life, it's like he kind of got a course correct
1:26:18
when it comes to not having him around anymore.
1:26:21
And I hope that answers the question.
1:26:23
I mean, definitely does. I'm sorry that happened.
1:26:26
And I remember hitting you up when it was happening and you
1:26:28
were fucking hurting. But it was very wholesome, all
1:26:32
this stuff. And was it Japan that you
1:26:34
cancelled at some point when he got sick?
1:26:37
After part to or. Yeah, it was.
1:26:41
We had four show. I don't want to.
1:26:43
I don't want to take up too much time on it, but I'll still tell
1:26:45
you this too. It's.
1:26:46
Like we had four shows left, right?
1:26:49
I was trying to, I had got a new phone in Nashville.
1:26:52
We're playing Nashville, right? I'm the most low tech guy.
1:26:56
That's I don't know how to set up my phone.
1:26:58
I don't know how to fucking narrative.
1:27:00
Yeah. And my buddy Trey, who was from
1:27:03
our area, he lives around here, was coming to the show and he
1:27:06
was helping me out. And he was like calling, like
1:27:08
sorting it for me because he's a tech guy.
1:27:10
He knows all that kind of shit. And he was like, hey, we're
1:27:12
going to need like, this password for, like, your
1:27:16
account, this and that, whatever.
1:27:17
So I was like, OK, well, let me call my uncle real quick.
1:27:19
I call him. And every time we would still
1:27:22
keep up on tour. But like, I called him and he
1:27:24
sounded like he just woke up from a nap.
1:27:26
And I was like, man, I was like, you just wake up and like, no,
1:27:29
I've been awake. I'm like, are you OK?
1:27:32
He's like, yeah, I'm good. I was like, OK, well, I need
1:27:34
some information from you. Get the information.
1:27:36
No big deal, right? And I'm in the back of my head,
1:27:38
I'm like, that was a little weird, right?
1:27:39
So I was like, I'm going to call him back about half an hour and
1:27:42
if he sounds the same, I need to get the bottom of this because
1:27:44
he sounded bad, right? And so yeah, I call him back and
1:27:49
he sounds like shit. And I said he's the type of dude
1:27:52
that will bullshit you too. He's like old school, born in
1:27:54
the 30s, did not give a fuck. He he could have his arm blown
1:27:57
off and he'll be like, don't worry about it.
1:27:58
You know what I mean? And I straight up as a feel.
1:28:00
Like you definitely got that from him.
1:28:02
That's AU move. Yeah.
1:28:04
You know, I would think so probably, but it was when I was
1:28:08
saying this is the only time that I ever heard him be
1:28:10
vulnerable was I was like, listen, I I need you to tell me
1:28:14
right now. Fuck these shows.
1:28:17
Fuck this stuff. If you need me to come back, I
1:28:19
can do that right now. And he literally just goes
1:28:22
please. Oh man, that's fucking
1:28:24
heartbreaking. I know.
1:28:25
And I told the boys I was like, hey, I'm I got to go.
1:28:29
We had like an. Off day, so it was like got to
1:28:31
go home early before Texas. Went back when I opened that
1:28:36
door, he had lost probably another £25 he had.
1:28:41
And I, this is something that I've, I want people to know the
1:28:45
situation, but it's like I would never want him to hear this and
1:28:48
think badly of himself because that's not the case.
1:28:51
But it's like, I walked in and there were trash bags on the
1:28:54
floor because he was still trying to clean up after himself
1:28:59
and but he couldn't, he couldn't operate the trash can anymore
1:29:02
and like, take the trash out. So he would put stuff in these
1:29:06
trash bags and then they would become too heavy for him to
1:29:08
lift. So he just had in the bedroom,
1:29:11
the bathroom, the living room, the kitchen trash bags.
1:29:14
And I was like, why didn't you tell me this?
1:29:16
Why didn't you call me? You know, I would have been here
1:29:19
in 15 seconds. And he just said, I don't know.
1:29:22
And he's like, I'm sorry. And it's like, holy shit,
1:29:24
brother. Like I'm moving back.
1:29:26
I told Billy back in Tampa I was like, brother, I got to go.
1:29:29
I love you, but I'm dipping. He said, I hope you move, man.
1:29:33
Like he came and helped me do some stuff and like get
1:29:35
everything sorted. We had to put my uncle in a
1:29:38
nursing home because I'm not a nurse.
1:29:39
I couldn't help him. You know what I mean?
1:29:41
I tried that within a day of being there.
1:29:44
It went from, hey, I'll contact the VA.
1:29:47
We'll see if they can maybe have somebody come out and clean for
1:29:50
you to help you do this to. Within 8 hours I was like, this
1:29:54
is escalated. You can't take care of yourself
1:29:56
because I had to buy him a whole new set of blankets because he
1:30:00
was having problems with his blankets.
1:30:02
We're sitting there on his bed and I'm trying to be real with
1:30:04
him about stuff. Just messes his blankets.
1:30:07
I said brother, like we, we got to figure this out.
1:30:10
Came back right in time. On time though.
1:30:12
That's the thing I think about. In an alternate universe where I
1:30:16
would have said it'll be fine and I go to Japan and then that
1:30:19
motherfucker stops texting me one day, that would have put me
1:30:22
on a trajectory that would have jerked me into a direction where
1:30:25
I would have hated every fiber of myself.
1:30:27
You did the right thing. I, I hope to God I did, man,
1:30:30
because it's there's, I've done a lot of wrong too, but it's one
1:30:33
of those things where it's like, I would hope that that would be
1:30:36
seen as something that I've done right.
1:30:38
And people can see that like you cared, you know when you tried,
1:30:42
because a lot of mother fuckers don't even try.
1:30:44
You know what I mean? If you didn't, if you did just
1:30:46
been like, Oh yeah, it's going to be OK.
1:30:48
Like you probably wouldn't be able to live with yourself.
1:30:51
I wouldn't say I wouldn't have. It wouldn't have.
1:30:53
The statement, by the way, that you put out when you were not
1:30:56
going to Japan, Yeah, was fucking rare by you guys.
1:31:00
But like, so hard I can't remember what it was.
1:31:02
You like reference like how Japanese culture treats their
1:31:05
elders in the statement. And I was like, oh, I want to
1:31:07
March from this fucking horrifically horrible statement.
1:31:11
Well, that. Was the thing was like it was
1:31:12
only like 3 days or something, but it's like.
1:31:15
Yeah. Something happened in those
1:31:16
three days, I. Told him I was like, if there's
1:31:18
a culture that I think would understand where I'm coming
1:31:21
from, it's y'all and I I say with nothing but respect.
1:31:24
And that's why we're going back. I was so thankful when they
1:31:26
asked us to come back. Where are you going?
1:31:28
A week? Yeah, like a week.
1:31:30
Fucking. Jealous we're doing 2 shows in
1:31:33
Tokyo. Blood Axe is the fucking best,
1:31:35
yeah. So I, I don't mean to take up
1:31:37
too much time on that, but that's that's the mountain of
1:31:39
Corsicana. That's what it's about.
1:31:40
Like I said, if this is the one time I ever get to tell people
1:31:43
how great he was that didn't know that's what it is.
1:31:46
Am I allowed to make one edit that's happened?
1:31:50
I want to be here. Don't think I don't want.
1:31:53
To be No. Everyone gives a fuck about
1:31:55
that. Oh God bro, why do you think I
1:31:56
don't want to be here? I don't.
1:31:58
Really think that it was just funny I.
1:31:59
Know, but I was like oh cool, I've been talking about this.
1:32:02
Dude, you want me to cut out me saying do you want to be here or
1:32:04
you want me to cut out all the bits where you look like you
1:32:06
don't want to be here? Or I mean half the video, I'm
1:32:08
just. Kidding.
1:32:09
No, I just want you to know. Like I've I've.
1:32:11
I think so. I want to be here.
1:32:12
I don't. Want to be here?
1:32:13
Otherwise you wouldn't fucking be here.
1:32:14
You don't have to be here. I just I've been.
1:32:16
Talking about this you. Came back to do.
1:32:18
It well if I if I if I look stern or bored you.
1:32:22
Don't at all. You don't at all.
1:32:23
I'm really sorry. No, no, I just.
1:32:25
Want you to dance right? I I don't think anything twice
1:32:28
of it, OK. As long as people don't think
1:32:30
I'm, I don't want people to think I'm not hard.
1:32:32
To keep this being I wanna so I'm giving this bit.
1:32:35
To be here this. Bit in here I didn't I'm I'm
1:32:37
only busting balls yeah, I'm always busting balls but.
1:32:39
That's The thing is because I love and respect you a lot.
1:32:41
That's why I say personally, I just want to be like, duh,
1:32:44
idiot, you know, I'd fucking be here.
1:32:45
I I know and I'm like, you didn't have to be here.
1:32:48
This is a fucking supposed to be a day off or like a.
1:32:50
Week off. What an invitation, my wife and
1:32:52
kid. You're supposed to walk.
1:32:54
With my wife and kid. Yeah, you are.
1:32:55
You're pulling him away from that?
1:32:56
Yeah. When do you go back?
1:32:58
I have a vacation starting in like 13 hours.
1:33:01
Where you going? I got.
1:33:02
To drive back to New Jersey. And vacation in New Jersey.
1:33:06
Me, Sam and the baby were going to Shenandoah, getting a cabin.
1:33:10
Where's that? Virginia.
1:33:12
Sick. He's doing a lot of travelling
1:33:14
little. Cabin thing.
1:33:15
What's having a kid like? It's sick.
1:33:18
Mabel's the sweetest little gummy bear thing.
1:33:22
How old? Like a year and a half.
1:33:24
She's awesome. She is a great baby, yeah.
1:33:27
What should be using? What should be using babies?
1:33:29
I think babies are awesome. You ever think you know baby
1:33:31
you? Want a baby?
1:33:32
I was great with babies. I would love to have kids.
1:33:35
My ideal dream is to be on 80 acres out in the woods in my own
1:33:41
little house and cabin with like 7 kids running around.
1:33:44
That'd be great. I want to be done.
1:33:45
A lot of monsters to keep up with that.
1:33:47
They're all going to be Monster Name and every one of my kids
1:33:51
Monster Dog. Whatever can be called Ultra
1:33:53
Gold, whatever it's going to be called White Monster, you know?
1:33:56
Give them a letter to spell out monster there.
1:33:58
You go, we don't stop having kids till we spell monster, you
1:34:01
spell. Monster.
1:34:02
That's the whole thing. We're going to live in a lime
1:34:03
greenhouse. Every lights going to be lime
1:34:05
green. Wait, forgot to do this.
1:34:11
Oh, live shift. Monster Energy, unleash the
1:34:17
beast. Let me turn it back to the What
1:34:19
colour do you have I guess. Purple is that one.
1:34:21
It was this one. That's the one I feel like I'm
1:34:22
used to seeing. The content, Simon mate, clean
1:34:25
it up. Thank you.
1:34:26
I love you. I'll just Simon's great.
1:34:29
I'll just ramble and then say, can you make this because?
1:34:32
Simon, it always comes out. Yeah, he's a ghost.
1:34:35
He's the guy. He's the one.
1:34:36
Flipping the light around. The guy that fucking moved that,
1:34:39
I feel like we talked enough about music.
1:34:40
That's fucking great. Thank God you can talk about
1:34:42
other shit do. You want a kid?
1:34:43
I got one last thing. What did you just say?
1:34:47
I didn't say anything. You laughed.
1:34:48
You laughed. Yeah, I'll be dropping loads
1:34:50
that. Rocks.
1:34:53
Real quick about that, me and Sam always talk about how weird
1:34:56
it is when you tell your family you're trying and they say
1:35:01
congratulations. But already like well.
1:35:03
Just like if you're going to your yeah, you're like like when
1:35:08
you guys have kids. Ohh.
1:35:09
We've been trying for a few months now.
1:35:11
Like you say that to family and you're like you just told your
1:35:14
mom it's you're just dropping. Fucking nonstop.
1:35:17
I'm fucking. And then they go shit.
1:35:19
Out. Oh, that's.
1:35:20
So nice, like I'm happy for you guys.
1:35:21
It's like. What a wild.
1:35:24
Like why it's so accepted? Are you guys trying?
1:35:28
Yep. No more back shots.
1:35:29
Dad, father-in-law. There's no more back shots,
1:35:31
that's what. I'm saying it's such a awkward.
1:35:33
Like I it's cream pie's only normal, but it's so awkward.
1:35:36
I would. Say with pride.
1:35:38
I'm cream Pie and your daughter. Maybe like it's been 4 years,
1:35:42
we're still working, yeah. We're still going.
1:35:44
I'm like 38 now. I want, I don't want to be like
1:35:46
fucking 60 when my kid fucking goes to school, you know what I
1:35:50
mean? I got #2 coming.
1:35:51
You got #2 coming. A boy, boy and a girl.
1:35:54
He's completed it. After that.
1:35:57
After you're going to get a snip.
1:35:59
Oh God, yeah. You both tattoo artists?
1:36:02
Yeah. How long I?
1:36:03
Think I just hit year 4. Year 4, yeah.
1:36:06
I'm probably year 3 and that's, that's what I tell people.
1:36:09
I was actually telling one of my clients the other day.
1:36:10
I'm like, it's so crazy with both of us touring, it's like,
1:36:13
on paper, yeah, been doing it about three years.
1:36:16
When it comes to actually just being gone all the time, I'm
1:36:18
like bro, it's probably. Like a year, like a studio.
1:36:21
Of of of practice. Yeah, of doing it on a human
1:36:25
being, you know what I mean? So it's like it is cool to be
1:36:28
able to do that kind of stuff and it's awesome.
1:36:30
It's it's, it's a great time. But with touring it is I think
1:36:34
it's difficult ish it's. All about finding the right
1:36:37
person because I feel like 90% of shop owners would be like,
1:36:41
no, yeah, like you're not. Like my shop is is 3 buddies
1:36:45
from my hometown where I grew up, one of which is like one of
1:36:48
my closest friends who I've known forever.
1:36:50
If if people listen to our our EP our first the first music we
1:36:56
ever put out called Youth War. The cover is a dude's mouth with
1:36:59
his teeth opened up. That's my buddy Jace.
1:37:01
That's the guy that owns the shop.
1:37:02
You know what I'm saying? So it's like and where.
1:37:04
Is the shop. It's in Sherman and we were
1:37:07
having this conversation at the mall earlier where it's like we
1:37:09
both get stressed out. We're like fuck, man, like why
1:37:12
are these dudes keeping us around?
1:37:13
We're not, We're not around. We're not helping with this
1:37:15
shit. But it's like he's my I, I, he
1:37:17
brings me down from it so often when I'm like, dude, I just feel
1:37:20
this level of guilt. Yeah, because I'm not, I'm not
1:37:22
providing. I'm not helping you in any way.
1:37:23
And he's like, dude, shut up. It's fine.
1:37:26
He's like it's. Cool though you're cool people.
1:37:28
It's. Cool.
1:37:28
It's like I said, it's about getting lucky.
1:37:30
Like my guy, like the shop guy that owns my shop, Ian, it's the
1:37:32
same thing. I've known him forever.
1:37:34
And then like I'm home and I'm like, dude, like I feel so bad.
1:37:36
I've been gone. He's like, you're fine.
1:37:38
Yeah. Yeah, but it is also bringing an
1:37:40
element of coolness to the shop, like this guy from Cuba.
1:37:43
You, you guys are so modest about your back.
1:37:45
I. Play bass.
1:37:46
You play. The AOA you.
1:37:48
Play the AOA. Let's get the record straight.
1:37:50
No, but that's like that's it's cool.
1:37:53
The guys from Cuba Con and that's cool.
1:37:54
That they allow us to do it. They're cool, you know what I
1:37:57
mean? And it's like.
1:37:58
Mutual cool theft. You just hang out with your boys
1:38:01
all day and and it's, it's, it's for.
1:38:03
Me at least. Well, with you too, because
1:38:04
that's. Where you live, it's a sense of
1:38:05
familiarity. You know what I mean?
1:38:07
It, it really just brings it home, literally, you know what I
1:38:10
mean? Is it?
1:38:12
Have you ever like really fucked up like I?
1:38:14
I could never. Yeah.
1:38:16
Yeah, I could never. To this day, I could never
1:38:20
imagine the pressure of doing it.
1:38:22
I'm sure some toe artists would never imagine the pressure of
1:38:24
playing a show in front of people.
1:38:26
But like the pressure of putting something on someone's skin
1:38:28
forever. I couldn't do it.
1:38:30
There's no way I could do. It is funny like you're saying,
1:38:33
they the pressure playing a show.
1:38:35
There are so many people I'll meet like, is it tattooing?
1:38:38
And touring is nice because you get to meet all these other
1:38:41
great tattooers at these awesome shops and stuff and you like end
1:38:44
up meeting them and you're like, damn, like you're so good at
1:38:46
tattooing. Like I wish I could do this all
1:38:47
the time. And they're like.
1:38:49
I want to. Do what you do.
1:38:51
And I'm like, like the world's are so similar, but it's like.
1:38:54
The the the brain skill set for me, like you guys have got both
1:38:58
of them. I just couldn't plug and do it.
1:38:59
There's no way. One, it's like you're saying the
1:39:01
the 2 worlds. I didn't realize it until I I
1:39:05
started getting into tattooing. They're so close together, like
1:39:08
some I got a burp again. And all of us in music think
1:39:13
have like this mutual respect for tattoo artists, and then
1:39:16
they have it for musicians. It it's literally so similar,
1:39:19
like I've always talked about like a convention feels like a
1:39:22
Warped Tour. Yeah, it's to go.
1:39:23
They're the cool bands. There's like these bands like
1:39:26
but it's like tattooing like same thing like you'll meet like
1:39:30
you got the band that uses all in ears and tracks and they're
1:39:33
at their private studio and then you got like they're.
1:39:35
Doing the anime portrait. Exactly.
1:39:37
And then like that's like your bands like that.
1:39:40
And then you meet like the trad shop guys, you're like, Oh yeah,
1:39:43
there's like the dudes like like we're just, we played with
1:39:47
Incendiary the other day, just like just a.
1:39:50
Trad tattoo shop, Yeah. Just like dudes just doing it
1:39:52
for fun, like no titles or just yeah, I love this shit.
1:39:56
I'm doing it. Fuck yeah.
1:39:57
You know, it's like, it's like the world's are just so similar.
1:40:00
Do you both do American traditional?
1:40:03
Is that like your go to or you're just doing whatever?
1:40:06
I'd say that's my go to but I can do like other shit I can do.
1:40:09
Everything I can. Do I can do like realism?
1:40:11
Yeah, shit. And finally stuff from.
1:40:14
I just like 2 forms of tattoo art, Japanese and American
1:40:21
traditional like I'm just obsessed with like.
1:40:24
Which I think I think all everything is is beautiful and
1:40:26
all these people that are, you know, artists and doing their
1:40:29
stuff like even with anime portrait stuff like I don't
1:40:32
really. Know oh I'm not this and that
1:40:33
but it's like fucking dog it's mind.
1:40:35
Blowing. It's a whole skill set I can't
1:40:36
do, yeah. I, I, I see, you know, reels and
1:40:39
stuff of people doing like start to finish and even seeing the,
1:40:42
how they implement their skill set.
1:40:44
I'm like, holy shit, you know what I mean?
1:40:46
It's it's such a vast world now, especially through social media,
1:40:50
man, because you can just pick and choose all this kind of
1:40:52
crazy shit. But it's like, that's why it's
1:40:53
nice. Like I think it's similar for
1:40:55
your shop where it's like my shop is, is like that.
1:40:58
It's just three other guys are just, they pull up on their
1:41:00
fucking bikes. They just love blasting some
1:41:03
tats and it's a good time. There's, there's not a lot of
1:41:05
deep thought to it. There's not like nobody sitting
1:41:08
there talking about, you know, like art theory or anything.
1:41:11
But when it comes down to it, all these dudes are geniuses at
1:41:13
it. They just know they're just
1:41:14
built for it. You know what I'm saying, to be
1:41:16
able to be in a shop like that and be able to learn with guys
1:41:19
like that and absorb as much as you can.
1:41:21
Like I was telling him, like I still ask Jayce questions
1:41:23
constantly. I'll be in the middle of
1:41:25
something like, brother, please come here.
1:41:26
Like, what would you do? Like, what do you think of this?
1:41:28
And I just, I never want to stop learning that shit.
1:41:32
I never want to take it for granted because like I told him,
1:41:35
you know, we all do. Like I would like to believe
1:41:38
that he and I for sure we we definitely got silver spoon with
1:41:41
this shit. Yeah, there's no doubt.
1:41:43
There's I, I will never tell anybody that.
1:41:44
Like, no, I, I got into tattooing because I'm just good
1:41:47
at it, Motherfucker, I suck. Like I got into it because
1:41:50
people enjoy Kubla Khan. Yeah, but you have to be out of
1:41:52
draw. You have to be out of draw.
1:41:55
You do you do every tattoo wise. I know that can't draw is bad.
1:41:59
I've always been into art man. I I in high school I got voted
1:42:03
most likely to become a famous painter.
1:42:05
You know what I mean? Nice.
1:42:06
That's something I still carry around with a chip on my
1:42:08
shoulder. And now you're hard to do it.
1:42:09
And blasting Wizards on dudes chest before I go, you know, and
1:42:13
it's like I. Really do.
1:42:14
I could really do it. One of your Wizards.
1:42:16
Yeah, and I, I, I do love art and I do enjoy it, but it's one
1:42:19
of those things too where it's like, what are we talking about?
1:42:21
What was the point? Just.
1:42:22
Being careful what you say, like I, I say the same thing when
1:42:24
people ask like how did you get into it?
1:42:26
And right around like I got lucky.
1:42:27
I'm like, I got lucky. IDM this dude Nick who's looking
1:42:31
for an apprentice. And I was like, hey man, I got
1:42:34
no portfolio to show you. Like I don't really know much if
1:42:37
I really want to do it. Had you done a tattoo at?
1:42:39
This point and he just DM me back and said are you in Kubla
1:42:42
Khan? And I remember looking, I was
1:42:44
sitting next to Sam. I was.
1:42:45
Like I literally. Looked at Sam.
1:42:46
I was like, I think I'm good, which is so like, again, I got
1:42:49
very lucky. And I got a hot topic.
1:42:51
Yeah, you know. I'm saying, you know how I got
1:42:53
into you. Don't always want to pull the
1:42:54
fucking out, but sometimes you do it, you know?
1:42:56
Every single Disney park next week for the price of on the
1:43:01
House. Every single fucking worm
1:43:03
because I put it on my story. I was like anyone got the hook
1:43:05
up for Disney? Ends up so many people that work
1:43:07
at Disney following me. Well, that's a thing.
1:43:09
I like to believe that as. AI love you, all these people
1:43:12
give us the opportunity. Yeah.
1:43:13
And it The thing is like, we very rarely, we're not the type
1:43:17
of dudes that are like, oh, you know who we are, You know what I
1:43:20
mean? And it's like.
1:43:21
It was like a English Frankenstein.
1:43:23
Well. You know what I'm saying?
1:43:24
Because the shop that that I'm in, I already knew I've toured
1:43:28
with several of the artists there because Heather Herrimetal
1:43:31
was there, Trevor was there, you know what I mean?
1:43:32
And I ended up meeting Billy, who is a guy that that ended up
1:43:35
teaching me shout out Billy, he's the fucking best.
1:43:37
And it was one of those things were like, we were just real
1:43:39
with each other from the start. It was just like, he's like, do
1:43:42
you know, And I was like, brother, I've never touched an
1:43:44
iPad. I don't know, I, I draw
1:43:46
everything on a piece of paper still, you know what I mean?
1:43:49
He like brought me into the 21st century with all this shit.
1:43:51
And it's one of those things where it's like, I was just
1:43:55
thankful that someone was even willing to.
1:43:58
Take a chance. Yeah, take a chance, man,
1:43:59
Because it's like, yeah, people could be like, oh, you know,
1:44:02
you're just in a band. You just want to do it because
1:44:04
of of this reason or that reason.
1:44:05
It's like when it comes down to it.
1:44:06
But we've always thought it's just that would be sick.
1:44:09
And it's like he's saying people look at what we do and they're
1:44:12
like, yeah. But that it's like, Nah, man,
1:44:13
fuck, I want to be tattooing in a shop the size of a shoe box
1:44:16
with three in my buds. That's the time.
1:44:19
I think as well it, it kind of does yourself a disservice to
1:44:23
say you've got silver spoon because these people want to
1:44:26
help you #1 because you're good people that they are already
1:44:29
friends with. But there is like an
1:44:31
appreciation. Like to bring it back to the
1:44:33
fucking Disney thing. It was like anyone that replied
1:44:36
to that was just like, oh man, like it's the least I can do.
1:44:38
Like thanks for all the podcast. Like that's the same thing like
1:44:41
you guys. Like I said.
1:44:42
Music, it's not just like, oh, they're in a band, they're cool.
1:44:44
It's like I fuck with their music.
1:44:46
I want to help them. Yeah, and, and again, I'm super
1:44:49
grateful for it. Yeah, we're.
1:44:51
Thankful. Like I need.
1:44:52
Two Kublai Khan tattoos. We need to fucking make this
1:44:54
work. Maybe we'll got to do a little.
1:44:56
Travel. Gotta put it on the fucking
1:44:58
podcast today. I thought, I honestly thought
1:44:59
about asking and I was like, I'm not going to.
1:45:01
I'll be back in September tattooing literally around the
1:45:03
corner from here. In Nashville.
1:45:05
At kind tattoo is. That the one you just went to
1:45:07
today, right? Yeah.
1:45:08
Yeah, book me in, baby. I will.
1:45:10
I'll pay actual money too. And that's the other thing I
1:45:13
feel like tattooing is since I just like doing.
1:45:17
I feel like I suck at charging. I'm pretty bad at it.
1:45:20
Well. At least you're not like those
1:45:21
fucking the people that do the really thin ones and they're
1:45:25
like 4 grand I. Don't think I've ever charged
1:45:27
more than like 250 for a tattoo. Well.
1:45:29
I finished tattoos all the time and I'm just like, well, 150
1:45:32
bucks, you know what I mean? Like, you know, it's like I just
1:45:35
it is tough you. Don't do hourly, you just do per
1:45:37
piece. I just love it.
1:45:39
Yeah, I'm just glad anybody even shows up.
1:45:40
Yeah, if they pick something I want to do, I'm not going to be
1:45:43
like, yeah, man, that's 600. Has anyone ever made you do a
1:45:45
Kublai con tattoo? Brother, when we did, we played
1:45:49
a festival, right? And it was a a festival slash
1:45:52
tattoo dungeon. Yeah, awesome.
1:45:55
We tattooed at it from like doors to like.
1:45:58
We had to be like, hey, our set's about to have.
1:46:00
To play in 20 minutes, we tattooed a ton of people it.
1:46:04
Was one of the best days ever. Yeah, it was fucking so sick.
1:46:09
But we we were sharing a booth together.
1:46:11
What was it while? Playing late at that day, I was.
1:46:14
We were headline. Tattoos.
1:46:15
Oh yeah, the Matt did a couple Kubal kind of tattoos.
1:46:18
Yeah, he's like you got AI had a I had the TX in my line drawings
1:46:24
because I had done it in Jersey a few times and then people just
1:46:28
were like got table going through a line book and like
1:46:30
they found it. I think Matt did like two or
1:46:32
three I had. Three in a row and I just like
1:46:34
to. Throw that line drawing, I told.
1:46:36
Us, I said take that off the fucking table otherwise I'm
1:46:37
going to be doing TXS till we fucking play.
1:46:40
I even told that guy I was. Still doing on him.
1:46:42
I was like, this is awesome. And I was like, Bubba, I don't
1:46:45
want let's let's do these and then let's let's because there's
1:46:47
plenty of bad ass art, man. You don't want to get the
1:46:50
fucking, you really want the TX on you.
1:46:52
And it's like. But I get I understand getting
1:46:54
the tattoo from the guy in the band is sick.
1:46:57
I definitely though everyone I've done, I'm not complaining,
1:47:01
but just like since we were at the fest playing, it would have
1:47:04
probably turned into just. That's what I was worried about
1:47:07
is that everybody that walks by is like, oh he's doing the TX
1:47:10
and then for the next, for the next 8 hours.
1:47:14
I'm. Doing this single from like
1:47:17
11:00 AM till. 8 or 8 just. Put the TX next to anything you
1:47:22
drew, almost like the band name. Like you had to add the TX to
1:47:25
the band. You just draw the yellow which.
1:47:27
Even then, Wizard Frog. And it says TX next.
1:47:29
Thankful that that people even wanted to get it, but I did.
1:47:31
I did make sure and tell them I'm like hey brother, like let's
1:47:34
put that under the table. Put out.
1:47:35
The put out the heater work. Let's put out some cool shit,
1:47:37
you know what I mean? Because like we're only there
1:47:39
for a day man. And if I if so be it if if every
1:47:43
tattoo I do that day is the TX from our logo brother, I'm
1:47:46
stoked. If you like it, I love it.
1:47:48
But at the same time, if I'm being real, like he was just
1:47:50
doing bad ass shit over there and I'm like.
1:47:53
Fuck, you like span it Just like, why don't you?
1:47:56
Do you like a fucking hammer or an anvil or you know, like.
1:47:59
There's more subtle things like I've done.
1:48:01
So many anvils. Yeah, I've done quite a few.
1:48:03
Hammers and anvils are like once a week.
1:48:05
But I'm into that, that, yeah. I like that hammer more.
1:48:09
It's subtle and you can you can make it your own my.
1:48:11
Favorite needs? Tattoo Wizards, What's yours?
1:48:14
Eagles. I've done the stray lighthouse
1:48:16
though. Love.
1:48:17
A good eagle. I don't even have one of those.
1:48:18
Don't fucking need it now. I have a stray from the bad
1:48:22
tattoo do. You I have a tattoo.
1:48:24
I forgot what you got. Little Clippers, make your own
1:48:28
history. Wow, I.
1:48:30
Don't. My favorite man.
1:48:32
Fuck. Well I'm sorry for your loss.
1:48:34
Fucking dead. Yeah, the 2nd tattoo I ever got.
1:48:36
Straight tattoo that's. Fucking sick.
1:48:37
Well I'll get a cubic on tattoo and I'll make you do it.
1:48:40
Except yours will be a wizard. The.
1:48:42
CX, yeah. You can be casting.
1:48:44
Can I get a wizard that's yeah, perfect, that's fucking locked
1:48:47
in the. Empire Wizard.
1:48:49
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What?
1:48:50
Was that? We had an idea where Matt would
1:48:53
draw a wizard jerking off and I'll get it.
1:48:56
The come was the tabs to Ampile. Is that done yet?
1:49:01
Is that done? You have.
1:49:02
It's you're on the. Studio have it I.
1:49:05
Drew a wizard and it's like a goofy he looks more like a gnome
1:49:08
but I drew a goofy wizard with just a hammer Dick just big out
1:49:12
and I was like it would be easy just add that shit on there.
1:49:15
Boom, you got a tattoo or. Lock me the fucking, I'll get
1:49:17
it. I'll save it just for you 'cause
1:49:20
guess what? Nobody's picked that one.
1:49:21
Ever. I'm in.
1:49:22
I'm in. Full full cock out full.
1:49:25
It's a Curry. It's a good Dick too.
1:49:28
Yeah, I ain't getting it huge, but I'll get on my leg.
1:49:30
OK, whatever you want. Fuck yeah.
1:49:31
Always wanted like a tattoo. Remember when you're like a kid
1:49:34
and you'd see like a swimming pool somewhere?
1:49:37
There'd be like a fully grown man.
1:49:39
You're fucking looking concerned.
1:49:41
No, I'm just not going anywhere bad.
1:49:42
No, go ahead. Remember when you're a kid?
1:49:44
Because I went from Dicks to kids.
1:49:45
I thought you were worried. No, no, no.
1:49:47
No, and you would see like a person with a tattoo, which was
1:49:51
like something rude, like and maybe not even a Dick.
1:49:54
And I'd be like, oh, that's kind of cool.
1:49:56
I want to be that guy at the pool that has a Dick tattooed
1:49:59
and people are like what the fuck?
1:50:01
Yeah, my other uncle growing up on this arm had and this was
1:50:06
this was back. He got this in probably like
1:50:08
9293 maybe just got this bad ass like Smokey wizard holding an
1:50:13
orb. And I would be as a little kid
1:50:16
and he was like a big muscular dude.
1:50:18
I like looked up to him and shit.
1:50:19
And I would always look at that. He was the only tattoo he had.
1:50:22
And I'd be like, holy shit. 92 Wizard.
1:50:25
He's ahead of the game. Yeah, I always use the example
1:50:27
of there was some kids that lived across the street and I I
1:50:30
was raised in my grandma's house.
1:50:32
She was strict Catholic. I couldn't have soda in the
1:50:35
house, right. She I would have to go look at
1:50:37
you. I know that monster to fuck up.
1:50:40
So I would have to go to my friends houses to get exposed to
1:50:43
the cool shit, right? And there was some kids that
1:50:46
lived across the Creek from me, right?
1:50:48
And I would always going to go hang out in their dad's garage
1:50:50
with them because her dad had like swimsuit posters up.
1:50:54
And that was one of those moments where we talked about
1:50:56
trajectory, where I was like, that's what I like.
1:50:59
I want a garage with bikini girls in it, you know what I
1:51:02
mean? Do you have that?
1:51:04
Alan Jackson. Alan Jackson and George Strait,
1:51:06
but still, you know what I mean? So it was one of those things,
1:51:08
like between the bikini girl posters and the wizard orb, I
1:51:11
was like, I'm formulating what I want out of my life, you know?
1:51:15
And now it's like, yeah, I got a garage.
1:51:16
I could put bikini girls in it, and I got a fucking wizard on
1:51:19
one arm. So things are cool, you know?
1:51:21
Do you have any boobies on you? No, me neither.
1:51:23
Maybe you can get the wizard boobies.
1:51:26
Do you like a good boobie tattoo?
1:51:28
You got boobies? Yeah, I don't think I've got
1:51:30
boobies. Yeah, I got boobies.
1:51:32
No, I don't think so. Yeah, I forget I.
1:51:34
Think I have any that? Humans, I was.
1:51:37
Going to say if you're at a pool, they'd be like what the
1:51:40
hell is that the. Fuck is that?
1:51:41
Yeah. I mean I don't want to like some
1:51:43
people that have like I've seen a fair few like graphic blowjob
1:51:48
like realism ones. Yeah, I don't understand that
1:51:51
and. They look a bit correct, but
1:51:52
like a cartoon pair of. Each tattoos were like.
1:51:55
I remember seeing those quite a bit on Instagram for a while.
1:51:57
Everything bondage bondage anime ones would be.
1:51:59
Pretty they'd be like in. A square and shit and just that
1:52:03
real graphic. I always forget what I've got
1:52:06
like the other day I think. I was trying to think, because
1:52:09
I've got some space to fill on my site and I was like, what
1:52:12
should I get? And I was like, oh, I don't have
1:52:15
a Panther. And then like, I was just like
1:52:17
assumed I was just getting a Panther and that was it.
1:52:19
And then about fucking three days later.
1:52:22
I like randomly looking at my hand, I think.
1:52:24
About to say 30 seconds later. It was like 3 days later I'm
1:52:27
looking at my hand, I'm like oh fucking panda, I've got to
1:52:29
forget. Got an eagle.
1:52:30
We're like 3 sharks. I got snakes.
1:52:32
Suck my asshole. So many fucking snakes, hey?
1:52:35
Man, it's all cool. It's all this.
1:52:37
Cool shit. Yeah, do you?
1:52:38
Regret any of your tattoos? Just placement.
1:52:41
No same. Younger being like putting
1:52:43
something somewhere you should have saved through something
1:52:46
cooler. I did the fucking opposite to
1:52:48
what normal people do because I thought I was being smart at the
1:52:51
time. You know when like everyone's
1:52:54
like, oh, don't get something small when you're, when you're
1:52:57
at least when I was a kid, I'm like, you don't get something
1:52:59
small. So I like I got the worst
1:53:02
fucking like Japanese chest plate thing from a place that
1:53:05
would tattoo a 17 year old and it was just dog shit and now
1:53:08
like I'm fucked. Like I have my full chest done
1:53:10
but it's like not symmetrical. It took a while to recover it.
1:53:14
Was just fucking like it looked like shit until I filled
1:53:17
everything else out and then now people don't realize it's shit.
1:53:20
They just when you get to a certain amount of tattoos,
1:53:23
everyone's like, oh, that guy's got cool tattoos.
1:53:24
It's like, why don't you look closely at any of them?
1:53:27
They're all pretty bad. Yeah, the more you get, it just
1:53:29
becomes a thing instead of like, well.
1:53:31
That's the thing, like all my, I've just gotten tattoos from my
1:53:34
friends. I pretty much every, besides the
1:53:37
1st tattoo I ever got, every tattoo is by somebody that I was
1:53:40
friends with. And like that's, that's kind of
1:53:43
where I'm at with it is like I just want to get tattooed by my
1:53:45
buddies. I think that'd be the most fun
1:53:47
thing. Like I don't really have anybody
1:53:49
in mind where I'm like, oh, that's a bucket list thing.
1:53:51
It's like I got my friends, they do good.
1:53:53
I like them. And it's, it's I would much
1:53:55
rather spend my time with them and, and support them with
1:53:59
what's going on and everything. And, and vice versa.
1:54:01
There's it's, it's a cool kind of trade off thing.
1:54:03
So I don't know, I don't regret any of my tattoos because every
1:54:06
single one of them except for my first one, like I said, yeah.
1:54:08
And I like my first one. I just didn't know who she was,
1:54:10
you know what I mean? But like, they're all, they're
1:54:12
all cool and people don't like them.
1:54:14
Fuck them. I got a couple of bucket list
1:54:16
tattoo artists that want to get stuff off you two number one,
1:54:21
and they need to be Kubrick, Eric.
1:54:23
English is actually my bucket list.
1:54:24
You. Can't fucking do it.
1:54:25
You don't. You must have a million off each
1:54:27
other. You can't afford me.
1:54:29
There we go, money. I had do you know Moores from
1:54:33
he's in Leeds. He did this on my neck and he
1:54:35
did a bunch of other stuff. There's oh, you probably can't
1:54:38
see you got a beard. Beard as a snake must be.
1:54:40
Nice girl and. He also did like these fucking.
1:54:45
Arrows. Yeah, to the neck, right?
1:54:46
He doesn't. He was on my bucket list and
1:54:48
then now we're boys and he like does downbeat merch for me,
1:54:51
which is fucking cool. That's a Greg Ultron, if you.
1:54:54
Like the big monkey on the back of the stray hoodie Moors.
1:54:57
That guy's sick. That's yeah, he did this.
1:55:00
That hoodie's awesome. He's fucking awesome.
1:55:02
Yeah. And then that Greg Ultron guy, I
1:55:03
think he's in Austin. You know what I mean?
1:55:06
American old school guy. Nice.
1:55:07
I want to get something from him, you say.
1:55:09
In Austin. I think he's not.
1:55:10
Too far from where I live. I think our favorite tattooer is
1:55:15
in Baton Rouge. Shout out, shout out, Boo
1:55:17
Driscoll and the gang. Trading Post Tattoo is like the
1:55:20
coolest shop you could go to really.
1:55:23
It's awesome. We both have their local.
1:55:26
Our our headliner. Yeah, we both got our our
1:55:29
headliner artwork. Oh, the flyer for the headliner
1:55:33
is him. That's fucking cool.
1:55:35
He's the sickest dude. I've only been to Baton Rouge
1:55:38
once and. I go that.
1:55:41
Little venue, venue, you know what I mean?
1:55:44
Like the stage is in the. Corner the one that's talking
1:55:47
about, the new one that's not. Chelsea, Really.
1:55:48
Nice, right? That's the new one.
1:55:50
That's really nice. I'm.
1:55:51
Talking about this is like, I don't know, shouldn't have
1:55:53
shows. We played Shreveport a lot
1:55:56
before that didn't really go through.
1:55:59
It. Baton Rouge too much What?
1:56:00
Shreveport. Yeah, Shreveport's there.
1:56:02
That's right when you get across the border into Louisiana from
1:56:05
the Texas side. In a different world, I'd like
1:56:09
different life. I'd go move to Baton Rouge,
1:56:11
really. Probably the humidity.
1:56:14
I mean, I live in the. People there, there's some cool
1:56:16
people there. Yeah.
1:56:18
Plus like I always tell people that there's, there's a line on
1:56:21
the United States like temperature and weather wise
1:56:24
that I, I want to live below because living in Arizona and
1:56:28
then also living in Florida, but being raised in Texas, it's like
1:56:31
I'm good on that. Whatever, whatever longitudinal
1:56:34
or latitude in the line or whatever, I'm cool with that.
1:56:37
I don't like snow. I don't like having to drive
1:56:39
through that shit, so I'm bad. News is in that.
1:56:42
Area. I like, I like being from the
1:56:44
Northeast. That's why I said different
1:56:45
world. I would live there because I do
1:56:47
hate the heat. You hate the heat.
1:56:49
See, I'm new to this because I lived in, obviously, I lived in
1:56:52
Britain in my entire life and I fucking love it.
1:56:56
It's perfect. Like waking up when the sun's
1:56:57
out and it's like heat. Give me a jacket.
1:57:00
You. Fucking me your jacket going.
1:57:01
I mean that is actually one thing that I miss is like hoodie
1:57:04
weather because it doesn't really exist.
1:57:06
There's like 2 months of hoodie weather, maybe 3.
1:57:09
I feel like you've from where you grew up though you've you've
1:57:12
had enough hoodie weather for the rest of your life.
1:57:14
Probably you. You deserve so.
1:57:15
Many fits that rely on the you know, I've got so many jackets
1:57:18
that rely on having a hoodie underneath, but look at dude,
1:57:20
that's it. You're.
1:57:22
You're stacked. Show those arms off.
1:57:24
It's warm outside. Heat it up.
1:57:26
You know what I mean? Did actually go to the gym.
1:57:28
So I hurt my fucking shoulder at the gym today.
1:57:30
I I. Doing.
1:57:31
Shoulders. Shoulders.
1:57:33
I hurt my shoulders. No, I shouldn't have went to the
1:57:35
gym because I told you I wasn't going to go.
1:57:37
And then I like, I was like, I had 45 minutes and I was like,
1:57:40
I'm just going to go to the gym. See that to me, that's why it
1:57:43
killed me where I was like, you were like, oh, we got to start
1:57:45
doing my 2:00. I was like looking at the shit.
1:57:46
I was like, bro, that's like an hour and 15.
1:57:48
I was like, yeah, technically we could do that, but I was like,
1:57:51
if I'm going to hang out with you and we only get one day
1:57:53
together, I want to spend some time, man.
1:57:54
I want to talk. I'm going to like have a good
1:57:56
lift that that we're not feeling like the whole time.
1:57:59
We're like, well shit, we're about that.
1:58:00
Me waking up late fucked it and this fucked it we.
1:58:03
Did the opposite of the gym. Oh, God went.
1:58:06
To cookout. Went to cookout then got
1:58:08
massages at the mall. What?
1:58:10
Do you get nice? Would you get a cookout?
1:58:12
Because we've been like flirting the cookout.
1:58:14
And then we look, I look at the menu and I'm like, I don't know
1:58:16
what to get here. My tray is I'll do a big double
1:58:19
burger. You have do you know what the
1:58:21
tray and all that. You know how it runs down?
1:58:22
Yeah, but I know it doesn't have ribs.
1:58:24
No, no, it's like cafeteria. Yeah, it comes in foil.
1:58:28
Yeah, I'll do a big double burger and you have to say add
1:58:32
cheese, because I think if you don't, there's no cheese.
1:58:34
Interesting and. Then my two sides are hush
1:58:36
puppies, cheese curds, and then I'll upgrade my drink to a
1:58:39
Cheerwine float pretty much every time.
1:58:42
Sometimes I'll talk about my creation real quick.
1:58:45
You order hush puppies and a corn dog and you take the hot
1:58:50
dog out and you stuff it with the hush puppies and you call it
1:58:53
puppy dog. Puppy dog.
1:58:54
Nice, nice. What's your order?
1:58:57
I, I just, I get a big double burger with cheese and then I
1:59:00
get 2 of the cheese quesadillas with extra sauce because it's,
1:59:05
I, I utilize those like they're French fries.
1:59:07
You take a bite, take a bite. You know what I mean?
1:59:09
Because you famously had beef with Chipotle on the podcast.
1:59:13
Yeah. And they're not.
1:59:13
It's not getting any better. It's not getting any better.
1:59:15
No, I hate. That's why I texted you
1:59:18
yesterday. I found a good burrito spot in
1:59:19
case you wanted a burrito. It's like.
1:59:21
Having a falling out with like a good friend, It's not where
1:59:23
you're just like, what the fuck happened to you?
1:59:25
You know what I mean? Your life is is spiraling and
1:59:28
I'm having a watch. I don't mind if I go in to
1:59:31
Chipotle and I can like eagle eye, like what's happening and
1:59:35
really fucking have a good look, but anytime I like DoorDash,
1:59:38
Chipotle it is. The crazy thing is if you Uber
1:59:42
eats your door dash Chipotle it becomes like $50 minimum.
1:59:46
And it's way worse than. By the even just scientifically
1:59:52
the fact that it's sitting in some other mother fuckers car
1:59:54
for X amount of time before it gets to you, it's never going to
1:59:58
be as good as when you're just sitting in there doing it.
2:00:01
The problem is now you could literally eat it out of the tray
2:00:03
they're serving it in and it still sucks.
2:00:05
Yeah, but and also there's no like implied fear while they're
2:00:10
making it because they this faceless ordeal when they're
2:00:14
just making it for an order. They can just I'll just put that
2:00:17
in on it's a little bit. Whereas if you're there and you
2:00:19
give just just I'm not like, you know, like abusing anyone, but
2:00:24
like just a slight air of you better make this fucking good
2:00:30
do. You know, the quesadilla beef.
2:00:32
Beef as in like, hate not. Beef as the actual No I don't.
2:00:36
From who? It's just the online thing.
2:00:38
Yeah. Tell them what's?
2:00:39
This hit me. This pisses us off so bad.
2:00:43
So if you want a quesadilla and I walk in Chipotle, you're my
2:00:48
guy. I'm like, hey, can I get a
2:00:50
quesadilla? You're going to tell me I have
2:00:52
to order the quesadilla online even though the machine is right
2:00:56
behind you. They're like, we don't you have
2:00:58
to order online to get a quesadilla.
2:00:59
We can't do it. We.
2:01:00
Saw this happen in real time where he I.
2:01:02
Literally looked at the I didn't argue, but I was just like, I
2:01:04
was like, can I do the quesadillas you have to order
2:01:06
online? And I was like, this is.
2:01:08
A new thing, Yeah. And I was like, isn't that the
2:01:10
machine behind you? He's like, yeah, but that's
2:01:11
where to go orders like, we can't do it.
2:01:14
And I was like, you won't. I was like, you won't turn
2:01:16
around and do the quesadillas. He's like, no, you got to do it
2:01:18
online. What?
2:01:18
Are they doing to these quesadillas in secret?
2:01:20
He's saying because it's a different line, even though
2:01:23
it's. It's like, OK, we'll get the guy
2:01:25
that wanted that. Line and ask him.
2:01:27
To do it please. Interesting.
2:01:28
So you have if even if you're standing there in person,
2:01:30
machines right behind them, ingredients right in front of
2:01:33
them have to order online. Bloody hell, as we'd say back
2:01:38
home. Jesus, some things in life just
2:01:41
don't make sense, man. I've.
2:01:41
Been watching Diners, Dr. insurance and dives before bed
2:01:44
every night. Diners, Dr. Insurance and Dives.
2:01:47
Is that the correct I've? Never seen it.
2:01:48
Triple D, you know that you've. Never seen triple D.
2:01:51
No, these fools have just been watching Kitchen Nightmares on
2:01:54
repeat, and that's my first time watching that.
2:01:56
But I like Bar Rescue because I like what's his name.
2:01:59
John is the man John. Taffer rule God.
2:02:02
I've never seen He's holier, I know that.
2:02:04
That's is it not a thing in the UK because Nick had never seen
2:02:07
it and he's in Australia. Never.
2:02:09
Never even. Because he was watching Kitchen
2:02:12
Nightmares. Kitchen.
2:02:12
Nightmares for bars? Yeah, I was like, I'm about to
2:02:14
blow your goddamn mind and showed up.
2:02:16
John Taffer, he lost his mind. He.
2:02:19
Rocks we'll. Check it out What?
2:02:20
Were you saying our dive drives and?
2:02:22
Anyway, we've been watching it like before bed and I just, it
2:02:25
doesn't matter if I've just eaten right there, right then
2:02:28
and I'm going to bed. I'm hungry immediately.
2:02:31
Yeah, it's American food by design, baby.
2:02:33
She's too good. Do you have any restrictions or
2:02:37
eat everything? Eat everything.
2:02:39
OK, I eat absolutely everything and especially now I'm here like
2:02:43
I definitely have to get my cholesterol tested at some point
2:02:45
whenever I do like a next round of blood tests just.
2:02:48
Eat Cheerios. And I'll be eating Cinnamon
2:02:51
Toast Crunch like fucking crazy. But like I'm half excited to see
2:02:56
what my cholesterol was like from because I did a blood test
2:02:59
before I moved here and I'll get a blood test post America and I
2:03:03
just want to see is this. For actual scientific, you were
2:03:06
curious how it would go. Just being old, OK?
2:03:09
Just being an old guy. I get a blood test every five
2:03:12
years. I just checked.
2:03:12
I'm not fucking dying. My dad has some fucking shit.
2:03:15
Whatever. I want to make sure I don't get
2:03:17
that shit, you know? Good.
2:03:19
Hey, good friend man. Yeah, take care of yourself.
2:03:21
Keep it. Fucking keep an eye on it but
2:03:23
secret. I want to see if my cholesterol
2:03:24
has gone like sky high from moving here.
2:03:27
Milkshakes. I have a milkshake.
2:03:29
Where do you like to get them from?
2:03:31
I you know what this is going to be really, I fuck with the black
2:03:35
and white Shake Shake Shack so much.
2:03:38
Yeah, Shake Shack rocks. Yeah, sorry.
2:03:40
Fucking good. There's one at the airport.
2:03:42
You can get one later. Yeah.
2:03:43
I like I where did I go? I had one of the I had one at
2:03:46
the airport. I don't remember what fucking
2:03:48
airport it was, but I recently did have Shake Shack and it
2:03:51
still rocked in here. It's.
2:03:52
So good that makes. Its rotations on tour for sure.
2:03:55
It used to be no one in my band likes a burger.
2:03:58
No one would go, so I wouldn't always.
2:04:00
I'd wake up on the band bag and I'd go straight to the gym and
2:04:02
then I'd go straight to a burger as well.
2:04:04
And that was my you're. Telling me Nick won't eat a
2:04:06
burger. Nick will eat a burger.
2:04:08
Yes, yes, but like when it's like general consensus, where
2:04:10
are we going to stop while we're driving?
2:04:12
Where do? You end up stopping if it's.
2:04:13
Not a burger but Chipotle is like #1 I'd.
2:04:16
Say, that's probably always too. It's.
2:04:17
Got a bit for everyone, but then Tom wants sushi at like fucking
2:04:20
11. AMI was like, I love sushi, but
2:04:22
like Tom's number one is always sushi.
2:04:24
It's like I was trying. To think if there's anybody in
2:04:26
our camp that would be like, then I don't really think so.
2:04:29
I mean, I like it, but again, it's not.
2:04:31
Like we just eat. Real simple.
2:04:33
It's a group of sushi to me is a group event.
2:04:35
Where'd you stand on group? We went tacker.
2:04:36
Barrel, Oh went to crackle barrel.
2:04:38
Rockville went to Crackle Barrel.
2:04:42
Fan not fan it. Split in the sense of Matt will
2:04:45
be like you got to try. The Southwest grilled chicken.
2:04:50
And then he orders it and it's a piece of grilled chicken.
2:04:52
He's like, yeah, it's better at home, Big Brother.
2:04:55
Cracker Barrel, like for breakfast, I fuck with it.
2:04:58
You can't really fuck it up, you.
2:04:59
Get all the. Chicken, chicken fried steak and
2:05:02
shit like that. That's fine, I agree.
2:05:04
But like the undercurrent of racism in there I had, it just
2:05:10
feels racist to be in there even though it's not at all.
2:05:13
I'm just in there and I'm sad and I'm like, this is definitely
2:05:17
what one of those houses look like.
2:05:20
It's like some old southern plantation.
2:05:22
Yeah, and I'm just like, this is I feel like I mean, get out
2:05:26
every time I eat Cracker Barrel, I'm like, I'm in get out right
2:05:30
now it. Just sucks because then those
2:05:31
dumplings show up and they just. I'm usually the one dragging my
2:05:34
feet to something like that because it's in my head.
2:05:37
Like, just let me go to McDonald's.
2:05:39
I know what I'm getting. I just want it.
2:05:42
But if we're going to Cracker Barrel, it's going to be like
2:05:44
we. We maybe go to Cracker Barrel
2:05:45
like once a tour and it it's still, there's been, there's
2:05:49
been times where we've gone and it's missed.
2:05:52
It misses it. Often misses if it's.
2:05:54
Not breakfast. Like I said, if we go and get
2:05:56
breakfast, you can't really complain.
2:05:58
But when we start creeping into lunch, dinner territory, there's
2:06:01
a lot of misses. Yeah.
2:06:03
And then at that point I'm like hitting 30 bucks with a tip and
2:06:05
I'm like, I could have went to McDonald's and had a great time.
2:06:09
Where's what should McDonald's Europe versus McDonald's America
2:06:12
stance? Tell them about the background
2:06:15
on the bus. This is.
2:06:16
Going to have to end this is going to have to end the podcast
2:06:18
because we're running out of space.
2:06:19
That's fine. So on the McDonald's question,
2:06:23
I'm a fan everywhere. Yeah, I like it in Australia.
2:06:26
I like it in Europe. I like it at home.
2:06:29
I keep a receipt of every country I've got it in.
2:06:31
Really. It's in a little book at home.
2:06:33
Wow, our backroom in the bus in Europe was cause for alarm.
2:06:41
Why? There was so much McDonald's in
2:06:44
there. Because we would order like
2:06:46
wrappers or like leftovers it. Would be like, you know how like
2:06:50
show ends, like it's the only thing open and they're always
2:06:53
open. You can just go to them.
2:06:54
Yeah. So you got like 4 bands or at
2:06:57
the McDonald's in this one little room.
2:07:00
Just they were like doing a bit with it.
2:07:02
They were intentionally not throwing it out just to click
2:07:05
it. And when I showed back up, the
2:07:07
guys were devastated. They're like, you should have
2:07:09
seen it. It was crazy.
2:07:10
It was mythical. The bus driver cleaned.
2:07:12
Out the like boys on tour. It was like one of those things,
2:07:15
there was so much McDonald's back there and then the next day
2:07:18
opening that door and being like, just who threw it out?
2:07:22
Just being we were building something.
2:07:24
Anger. Who did?
2:07:25
The right thing and clean the room.
2:07:27
I, I did a whole tour where I didn't drink.
2:07:30
Like normally I drink on tour to deal with the fact I'm on tour.
2:07:34
I did a whole tour where I wasn't drinking and I've just
2:07:37
replaced it with McDonald's. So I'd finished the set and
2:07:40
instead of having a beer, I'd go to McDonald's and instead of
2:07:43
going to a bar, I'd go to McDonald's.
2:07:45
That's awesome. And it was awesome.
2:07:47
Definitely gained a lot of weight to a couple of years of
2:07:50
my life, but arguably, was it as bad as drinking?
2:07:54
We'll never know. I did base pics, had the golden
2:07:58
arches on one side and said Mccarrick.
2:08:00
Mccarrick. And I had a nightmare.
2:08:03
I got a lawsuit against me. I.
2:08:05
Was going to say I wonder because McDonald's and Disney
2:08:07
are apparently the ones you don't fuck with.
2:08:10
They'll get whole. Thing stop in trouble for those,
2:08:12
but I did have a dream where I was like, oh shit, I was you.
2:08:15
Weren't selling them. If anything, you're promoting.
2:08:17
I'm giving them out I would never when we.
2:08:19
Were driving yesterday. We were going over this big long
2:08:22
bridge over this lake and it was evening time.
2:08:24
The sun was going down and Nick was driving.
2:08:27
You were laying down. And I was like, Nick, look, and
2:08:29
they're like all these people on these boats, like fishing.
2:08:31
It was real pristine. And then there was this little
2:08:33
cut in the hills and it was just a silhouette above the hills of
2:08:37
the McDonald's sign. And we were just like.
2:08:39
That's how you know everything is going to be all right.
2:08:41
It's when you were when you were.
2:08:42
Coming back home. Southeast Asia, like I love
2:08:45
Asian cuisine, but sometimes when you're in like Indonesia
2:08:51
and you don't have somebody to like, tell you where the good
2:08:53
spot is and then there's a McDonald's, Yeah, you know,
2:08:58
you're safe. We've.
2:08:59
Never been? Yeah, you know, how about?
2:09:00
South East. Asia McDonald's over there.
2:09:02
Oh my God, I broke. I used to be McDonald's straight
2:09:05
edge and I broke it in Indonesia twice in one day.
2:09:09
Yeah, because I tried the local cuisine and I love Asian food,
2:09:13
but what I tried didn't. Like I did the fucking Western
2:09:18
thing and I went to McDonald's. I was like, this shit rocks.
2:09:20
And then I went back. I told them on that last tour
2:09:22
that I was done on McDonald's. There was no more.
2:09:24
We did. Really good on the that
2:09:26
Killswitch show we just did maybe twice.
2:09:28
Burger King instead. Brother.
2:09:31
My. Life at the insult it he's
2:09:34
insulted. Burger King pisses me off.
2:09:36
Really. Oh God, yeah.
2:09:37
Is it the arrogance of such so? Bad.
2:09:41
It's bad. You know it's bad I.
2:09:43
Don't. I don't.
2:09:44
I mean, it's brother, it's a fast food burger.
2:09:45
I've had a whole Burger King order just out my window.
2:09:50
It's char. Broiled, it's.
2:09:51
Good. I don't quite like Nugget.
2:09:53
Fries. And they got chicken fries.
2:09:54
You know what I'm talking about. Fucking awesome.
2:09:56
I do fuck with, I kind of fuck with the Burger King, but I'm
2:10:00
not picking it over McDonald's if.
2:10:02
There's a choice that's like picking Subway.
2:10:04
If there's like a Jersey, Mike's right there.
2:10:05
We. Started hitting a lot of Culvers
2:10:07
because I feel like if you're going to hold it, it's good.
2:10:11
Just try it. It's like a.
2:10:12
Midwest one, but I think it's spread out a little bit, OK.
2:10:16
I guess that's it. What you got coming up?
2:10:19
We got Japan. That's next week.
2:10:22
That's already done. Incarceration and Kadat Fest.
2:10:25
I'm going to incarceration. OK, we'll be there.
2:10:27
I'm. Hoping monster's going to take
2:10:29
me, but if not I'm just going to hang, OK?
2:10:32
Then we have late summer Europe festivals.
2:10:36
The late ones. And then big boy headliner.
2:10:40
Big Boy headliner which isn't announced yet.
2:10:42
It is. It is announced.
2:10:43
It's ready to fucking rip. Are you starting to sell out?
2:10:46
I'm a Oh yeah, fuck it. Yeah, of course it's an
2:10:48
announcer. Source.
2:10:49
Shit selling out immediately. Yeah.
2:10:51
Good for you. I love you.
2:10:52
I appreciate you coming on. Check out Kubicon if you if
2:10:56
you've got this far, you definitely know who they are.
2:10:58
If you're just a die hard downbeat head, then just made
2:11:02
that time up, then definitely check them out.
2:11:05
Listen to you in the gym. At least three out of my seven
2:11:09
gym workouts a week. It's constant rotation.
2:11:12
Honoured because it's showing brother.
2:11:13
Thank. You mate, that's what we use.
2:11:15
Yeah, not even like, not even just the new shit.
2:11:18
That's a lot of eight O eights in there.
2:11:21
I go from, I will. I'll go from Nomad on.
2:11:25
Yeah, but then. I feel if I were to recommend
2:11:27
our band to somebody, I would say that exact same sentence.
2:11:30
Yeah, yeah, because that's the same band to me.
2:11:32
Yeah, that's oldest that's. When it all people, that's when
2:11:35
it kicked off. The sound.
2:11:37
You know. OK, well, I love you.
2:11:39
Thank you. I like to take you to the
2:11:40
airport. You got a vacation.
2:11:41
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2:11:43
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