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Chuck & Buck 11-14 Hour 4: Hugh Millen's X's and O's, Mike Holmgren and Booze News! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 4: Al Right, maybe I've just been getting too fired up
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  Speaker 4: for this game on Sunday. Maybe I need to take
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  Speaker 4: it down a notch, A pretty run on the mill
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  Speaker 4: game on Sunday and Los Angeles, A couple of good coaches,
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  Speaker 4: I guess, a couple of quarterbacks that are kind of
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  Speaker 4: I suppose it's time to break it down with our
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  Speaker 4: QB one. Hugh Millan is with us here on Chuck
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  Speaker 4: and Buck in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: For some x's and o's. Damn that, Hugh, this is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. This is awesome. I can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's just a you know, it's like a mid
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  Speaker 3: term in in a college class where you know, grades
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  Speaker 3: pretty high. It's not as high as the final, but
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  Speaker 3: it does give you pause to say, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Where am I at this? And and so I can't.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, you know, if if Ashley will give the permission,
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  Speaker 3: if I can be a little bit stereotypically sexist, but
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  Speaker 3: only with Ashley's permission, Actually, are we good with that?
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  Speaker 2: Just for a moment? Can I can I delve into
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  Speaker 2: those waters like.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, we're gonna have some friends over and and
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  Speaker 3: I think like the dudes are going to be just
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  Speaker 3: looking at the matchup things, this incredible matchup between Mike
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  Speaker 3: McDonald and Sean McVay. Right, the chicks who are more
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  Speaker 3: drawn to the personal stories are going to be looking
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  Speaker 3: at Sam Donald. Sam Donald is the number one person
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  Speaker 3: involved in this game in my opinion, because if if
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford has a bad game, nobody's gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 3: nobody's gonna make any referendums on Matthew Stafford if he
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  Speaker 3: has a bad game. Even if Mike McDonald, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if the defense kind of gets lits up, lit up,
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  Speaker 3: people aren't gonna say, well, Mike McDonald forgot how to coach,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But if Sam Donald has a poor game,
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  Speaker 3: there's just a lot more riding on it for him
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  Speaker 3: than anybody else involved because of the nature of the
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  Speaker 3: perceived collapse by him last year. He's you know, he's
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  Speaker 3: getting hounded on by the local media, the national media,
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  Speaker 3: the and pre production meetings that are taking place today.
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  Speaker 3: They'll be asking about it. So he's gonna be reminded
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  Speaker 3: about that nine sack performance and and and the end
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  Speaker 3: of the season for the Vikings last year. So I
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  Speaker 3: just think there's a human interest side with Sam Donald
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  Speaker 3: that exceeds all others based on you know, just hey,
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  Speaker 3: this is one of the reason we love sports. This
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  Speaker 3: is why in the Olympics, you know, when when it
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  Speaker 3: comes down to the team Olympics and and one of
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  Speaker 3: those gals gotta sprint down the and do like nine
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  Speaker 3: tumbles and five somersaults in the air and she's got
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  Speaker 3: to land it, and just the pressure and maybe you
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  Speaker 3: don't even know what gymnastic is like me, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's pressure. And to watch that little gal just stick
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  Speaker 3: that landing, you get chills, you know, because of that's
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  Speaker 3: what sports is.
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  Speaker 2: And so Sam Donald has got some of that going
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  Speaker 2: on this Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: And so in an event, you know, there's just wonderful
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  Speaker 3: storylines that's a big one, not just for the chicks,
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  Speaker 3: the dudes will be taken note of that as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's I see.
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  Speaker 4: That's a little bit interesting because I kind of mocked that,
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  Speaker 4: Like ESPN had this headline across the front screen saying,
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  Speaker 4: what's at steak for Sam Donald?
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  Speaker 2: I kind of mocked it earlier in the show.
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  Speaker 4: My thought was, I don't think there's anything at steak
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  Speaker 4: for Sam Donald. If he wins, they're a game up
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  Speaker 4: in the standings. If he loses, there a game down
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  Speaker 4: in the standings. I don't think we get to the
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  Speaker 4: end of this and the narrative becomes, oh, Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 4: might not be able to beat the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think it goes there.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe maybe it is
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  Speaker 4: bigger than I was given it credit for.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now we're getting the hypothetical, Okay, in that scenario,
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  Speaker 3: if he were to have a bad game, that we
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  Speaker 3: know that people, you know that all the talking heads
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  Speaker 3: on Monday are going to be ripping him, then my
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  Speaker 3: my response would be, in that scenario, how how tough
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  Speaker 3: is he mentally?
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  Speaker 2: That's just as simple as that.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I can remember the the uh, the
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  Speaker 3: pep talks we used to get from Jimmy Johnson when
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  Speaker 3: I was with the Cowboys. He majored in industrial psychology.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what the industrial tag to that is,
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  Speaker 3: but but he was. He was very good in in
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  Speaker 3: how to present his messaging and he and he just
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  Speaker 3: just say, hey, emotionally, we are not a roller coaster.
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  Speaker 2: We are not up and down.
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  Speaker 3: You know, at the uh, you know, at the whim
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  Speaker 3: of whatever people say about us, we are either mentally
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  Speaker 3: tough or we're not. And you know, a major challenge. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think that that, you know, the Jimmy
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  Speaker 3: Johnson would have a component would have to be present
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  Speaker 3: for Sam Darnold in the event that you were to
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  Speaker 3: have a poor game. Obviously we're looking for all the
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  Speaker 3: reasons why he won't, but I think that he would
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  Speaker 3: be uniquely challenged in ways that the other principles in
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  Speaker 3: this game are not.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, do you is there anything in particular that your
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  Speaker 5: mind goes to when it comes to divisional games? It
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  Speaker 5: always seems like they're tougher, right, you play him twice
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  Speaker 5: a year. I don't know if you draft necessarily trying
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  Speaker 5: to combat your division foes, but your main goal is
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  Speaker 5: to win the division, and so you've got to go
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  Speaker 5: through those guys.
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  Speaker 2: You just the familiarity with it.
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  Speaker 5: What is it in particular that that you think, especially
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  Speaker 5: going into like this week for example, two good teams
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  Speaker 5: buying for that number one spot that goes into divisional
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  Speaker 5: matchups that make them tougher, And why it is like that, Well.
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  Speaker 3: I think sometimes there are division games where you just
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  Speaker 3: don't kind of like the other team. I know, when
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  Speaker 3: I'll reference Jimmy Johnson again, he hated the Eagles, and
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  Speaker 3: I remember he comes out at the end of the game.
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  Speaker 2: We're beating you know, Troit Mean's.
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  Speaker 3: The quarterback obviously, and he comes over the sideline and
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy says, hey, I want you to take We've got
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  Speaker 3: the we're up by two touchdowns. Just want you to
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  Speaker 3: take three knees and on fourth down, we're gonna start
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  Speaker 3: to take a knee and then throw it deep and
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  Speaker 3: and and Troy is like, he kind of looks at me,
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  Speaker 3: rolls like what So he goes out and you can
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  Speaker 3: see him. He goes up on first down. And by
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  Speaker 3: the way, the play by play can back this up
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  Speaker 3: if you look at the play by play for that game. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: he goes up and you can see he's talking to
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles, and so so he takes a knee on
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  Speaker 3: first down, huddle, taking THEE on second, taking thee on third.
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  Speaker 2: Then on fourth down.
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  Speaker 3: He throws a pass, but not up the sideline like
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy had told him to do. He throws a cral route,
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  Speaker 3: which which with the receiver coming back to the line
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  Speaker 3: of scrimmage. Uh and uh to Alvin Harper, get a
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  Speaker 3: nice game, but Alvin's tackled and blah blah blah, and
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  Speaker 3: and so the so the game's over and and Troy's
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  Speaker 3: walking by, and I'm like, is Jimmy gonna get mad
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  Speaker 3: at him for not throwing the go route. Well, Jimmy
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  Speaker 3: Johnson had the sense to uh to not say anything.
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  Speaker 2: And so I asked try.
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  Speaker 3: I said, what what had you said to the Eagles
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  Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage? He said, I told them,
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  Speaker 3: I said, listen, this is Troy at the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 3: Tell talking to the Eagle defense. We're gonna take a
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  Speaker 3: knee on first and second and third down, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna throw it on fourth down, he warned them. And
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  Speaker 3: so he said, he goes, I'm not getting involved with Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know Jimmy's you know vendettas he is, you know
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  Speaker 3: these we got to play these.
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  Speaker 2: Guys twice a year. You know, I'm getting smacked. And
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  Speaker 2: and that had.
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  Speaker 3: Stemmed from a time when Buddy Ryan was the quarterback
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  Speaker 3: when he had excuse me, the coach obviously, and he
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  Speaker 3: had done that, he had Randall Cunning and Hm take
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  Speaker 3: a few knees and then throw a bomb. Uh in
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  Speaker 3: that possession, which is is just breaks all conventions of
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  Speaker 3: you know, the rules.
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  Speaker 2: I mean Bucky in baseball.
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  Speaker 3: I mean what I like, if this was baseball, Jimmy
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  Speaker 3: Johnson or or Buddy Buddy Ryan should get a you know,
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  Speaker 3: a fastball in the ninety nine miles an hour in
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  Speaker 3: the lungs, you know, like like will self poleaf that crap.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: So at any event, there's a lot to talk about
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  Speaker 3: the S game. Sorry for that that diversion. But but
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  Speaker 3: but the point is with with the uh, with with
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  Speaker 3: the divisional games, sometimes it's heated. I don't get the
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  Speaker 3: sense that that there's that hatred here. I think there's
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  Speaker 3: just respect for two great teams here.
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  Speaker 4: Melanis we that's X's and O's. Every Friday brought to
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  Speaker 4: you by Frost Brewed Corps like choose Chill. You know
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  Speaker 4: the mountain turns blue at forty two degrees. Yeah, there
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  Speaker 4: are a lot of things to discuss with this matchup,
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  Speaker 4: especially this coaching matchup, if I can be specific. I'm curious,
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  Speaker 4: and I know you've given it thought how McVeigh would
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  Speaker 4: use Nikuah and Adams and how McDonald would try to
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  Speaker 4: defend them against, you know, with the weapon of emon
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  Speaker 4: Wori and possibly having all of their corners at their disposal.
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  Speaker 2: We're hearing job might end up playing this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: So that matchup in particular, those two special smart physical
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  Speaker 4: receivers against the Seahawks secondary.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so both for Poka Nikuah he has seventy
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  Speaker 3: nine targets, Davante Adams seventy eight. Then you go all
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  Speaker 3: the way down to Kiro and Williams the running back
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  Speaker 3: at twenty nine. All right, so they're and Tyler Higbee
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  Speaker 3: at twenty eight. So those two receivers are the dudes, right,
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  Speaker 3: and both of them they have by far the most
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  Speaker 3: amount of yards on in routes Nicoua one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: sixty five yards on inbreaking routes remember that when you
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  Speaker 3: watch the game DeVante Adams one hundred and fifty three,
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  Speaker 3: that's about fifty percent or more next to the closest.
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  Speaker 3: And then the other one is just the hits routes.
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  Speaker 3: Nikua just going up five yards stopping and then it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: he's really strong, you got it.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta tackle. But on those.
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  Speaker 3: Inbreaking routes, it makes sense because they like to have
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  Speaker 3: squeeze formations. So think of Nikua and DeVante Adams close
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  Speaker 3: relatively close, not by out by the sideline, but closer
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  Speaker 3: to the ball that that is inside what's called the
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  Speaker 3: divider for the corner, where the corner says, well, if
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  Speaker 3: you get tight enough, and it depends on what hashi
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  Speaker 3: are in middle of the field and what happens. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to give in the nuances of the divider,
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  Speaker 3: but basically the corners then they say, well, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to be an outside leverage because you're so tight to
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  Speaker 3: the ball. Well, when you're an outside leverage, you're you're
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  Speaker 3: susceptible to the inbreaking route. Now there's a component to
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  Speaker 3: that that all ties together. All these things that I'm
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  Speaker 3: discussing are all tied together. Schematically because after all this
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  Speaker 3: this segment called x's and o's. So when you look
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  Speaker 3: at Matthew Stafford's splits, there are seven coverages that and
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go into all there's seven coverages
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  Speaker 3: where he has at least five dropbacks. Okay, In all
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  Speaker 3: seven of those coverages, his passer rating is over one hundred,
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  Speaker 3: except for one it's called Cover four, and his passer
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  Speaker 3: rating is only fifty eight point eight. In fact, out
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  Speaker 3: of thirty three qualifying quarterbacks. Sam Darnold is excuse me,
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford is dead last thirty three out of thirty
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  Speaker 3: three in against Cover four. And so I went and
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  Speaker 3: watched the tape I was able to filter. I watched
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  Speaker 3: the coach's copy tape of Cover four. What's the problem
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  Speaker 3: with him? What Cover four is? You got the two states,
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  Speaker 3: there's four deep. As the name implies, there's only three
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  Speaker 3: guys underneath. The three guys underneath, I'm close to the
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  Speaker 3: line of skimmers. They have to play man concepts within
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  Speaker 3: his own because there's only three guys underneath. You can't
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  Speaker 3: just dropped to a spot because the holes will be
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  Speaker 3: too big. So you're kind of playing man underneath. But
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  Speaker 3: on all those inbreaking routes. What did I say that
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  Speaker 3: top routes were by Nikkou and Adams, they're inbreaking routes. Well,
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  Speaker 3: if you have the two safeties sitting there robbing on
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  Speaker 3: those in breaking routes, used the stafford, hold the ball
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  Speaker 3: and what have you. So now I'm they say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: do Seattle play cover four? Well, they they had played
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  Speaker 3: at fourteen percent of the time, which is sixth. That's
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  Speaker 3: sixteenth in the league. So they're dead averaging their their frequency.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately for Seattle, that's been their worst coverage by passer rating.
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  Speaker 3: So Mike, you know, you know, this is the type
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  Speaker 3: of things that happened during the week where you know,
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  Speaker 3: at eleven o'clock at night, when Mike McDonald's got a
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  Speaker 3: you know, a toddler at home, he's still in the
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  Speaker 3: building and he's asking questions like this, Hey, how much
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  Speaker 3: cover forward?
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  Speaker 2: How do we feel about this?
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  Speaker 3: And if we played dime and so so if we
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  Speaker 3: play dime in a longer artist situation, we can get
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  Speaker 3: we can get emon worry on on one side. And
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  Speaker 3: as they said, underneath coverage, he's got to you gotta
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  Speaker 3: kind of play man concerts within his own, I can
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  Speaker 3: get Witherspoon, Okay, I love that matchup. Now I can
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  Speaker 3: get Josh Job and I can get Riek Woolen as
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  Speaker 3: my corners. And then I wish I had Julian Love.
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  Speaker 3: But Tyocott has been playing great and Kobe Bryant's just
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  Speaker 3: been solid as hell too, and and so now we
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  Speaker 3: can get into a cover four and we got dudes everywhere,
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  Speaker 3: and hopefully Earn Stones. He'd be the mic in that situation.
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  Speaker 3: And and you know, you'd have what's called the number
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  Speaker 3: three receiver counting outside in on the three receiver side,
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  Speaker 3: so he's got to be in covered, so that knee
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  Speaker 3: would be a question. But all of this stuff is
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  Speaker 3: is kind of you know, stuff that you wonder, but
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  Speaker 3: but that would be a fact you asked me how
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  Speaker 3: you might defend Matthew Stafford. That's something that's really pivotal
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  Speaker 3: based on on those tendencies.
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  Speaker 5: Hugh Tory Horton didn't practice yesterday, so he's presumably, I
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  Speaker 5: would think probably out. Is this a week where you
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  Speaker 5: think they'll implement rashid shaheat and could he be a
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  Speaker 5: factor and in it maybe going deep or does he
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  Speaker 5: at least take the top off to where it opens
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  Speaker 5: up the guys underneath.
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  Speaker 2: Great question.
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  Speaker 3: For me to give an answer would be just talking
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  Speaker 3: out of my ass because we haven't seen Shahet other
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  Speaker 3: than a in a blowout where you know it's twenty
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  Speaker 3: one nothing in the first quarter, So don't we didn't
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  Speaker 3: know how how we don't. I don't know the cohesion
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  Speaker 3: that he's established with with Darnold. So here's what I
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  Speaker 3: saw from seating. They gave him the ball on an
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  Speaker 3: end around. You can see the bursts. He looks good.
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  Speaker 3: He's wearing those highlight pen green shoes. Keep wearing those
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  Speaker 3: because you look faster. And when you look faster, the
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  Speaker 3: defenders kind of go, WHOA, what's this heat coming out
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  Speaker 3: of me? They get out of their back pedal. That
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  Speaker 3: that declares for the defense. So I like that it's
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  Speaker 3: not just style. And and then now presumably he may
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  Speaker 3: have to take on a bigger role. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: he's you know, when you consider his closing ability on
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  Speaker 3: deep balls, the ability to actually track and catch the ball,
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  Speaker 3: he's not He's not at Jsn's level by a long shot,
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  Speaker 3: but he's faster, and so if he gets by a guy,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't think he's gonna be as good
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  Speaker 3: catching a contested ball. But if he has separation, throw
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  Speaker 3: it to him and then kick a pat let's do it.
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  Speaker 3: So I short answer, I don't really know. I know
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  Speaker 3: his speed does stretch the defense and it is a
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  Speaker 3: prominent And if you're playing man and man, you better
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  Speaker 3: have a guy who's fast enough or at least strong
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  Speaker 3: enough to jam him at the line of scrimmage and
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  Speaker 3: impede his free access.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of like the idea of like some dry
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  Speaker 4: ice in his uniform, so it looks like he is
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  Speaker 4: smoking down the field if you're saying it matters, like yeah,
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  Speaker 4: if you look faster, like this guy's so fast he's
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  Speaker 4: smoking out of the back.
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  Speaker 3: It works on a biplane in those air shows. Why
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  Speaker 3: can't it work for seed man? It's like all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, the DB's are going, WHOA, get out of
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  Speaker 3: your back.
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  Speaker 2: Beat'll let the snap of the ball.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I can't wait till Monday morning to break all
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  Speaker 4: of this down with you. This is gonna be one
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  Speaker 4: hell of a football game Sunday, mister.
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  Speaker 2: Millan, Oh is it? I mean?
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  Speaker 3: And you know there's there's other matchups we didn't get to.
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  Speaker 3: But I you know, I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 3: are biting with me on it sounds like you and
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  Speaker 3: I don't quite agree on what this means means for darnold,
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  Speaker 3: Oh you know what I got to mention this can
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  Speaker 3: I please give me a time here because I got
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  Speaker 3: these notes. I got to get to this outside zone.
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  Speaker 3: That's the Seahawks. We've heard all summer outside zone. Canine, dude,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: this guy is he He has five point five yards
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: per attempt on outside zone. Zach Zach Sarvona only has
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: three point six. They're almost too two yards separating. I
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  Speaker 3: know that we've been nursing your foot, and and and
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Greg has been telling us like like, hey, we're doing
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: load management. We got bringing an NBA experts to tell
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  Speaker 3: us the backup. No, Canine, you you are the you
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: forget that you gotta go. It's time to go. You
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: gotta get hard in the paint when you're going inside
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: against those dime UH personnel groupings by the Rams because
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: they're number one in the NFL and dime you gotta
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: go hard. And if you're getting an outside zone, you
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: gotta keep playing. The PFF ranks ranks UH Canine as
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: number two when just by grade, but just their their subjective.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: These number two in the outside zone. That's the Seahawks
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: bread and Butter is the outside zone. He's two yards
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: ahead of sharpnet Canine. Don't go out of bounce, uh,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: you know, fight for every yard. Show the physicality, like
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: like I'm tired of this guy's, you know, one of
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: the top twelve most talented guys on the football field.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: He's got to show up and I don't want to
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: hear about load manager. Grab that outside zone and go
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: run somebody over. Yeah, love it all right, Thank.
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  Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, coach Home ran every Friday at this time.
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  Speaker 6: Good morning, coach, Good morning guys. How's it going?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: You excited for your Sunday? You excited for this game?
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: You know what I am? Now. We watched some games
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: this year that have been kind of over at halftime,
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: are not so exciting. This one promises to be special.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I think what do you do as a coach? I mean,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: it's midway through the season. It's not make or break,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: it's not like the division is on the line. Do
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: you just let the and trust that the players know
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: that this is a more important game than most of
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: the games, or do you start the week off by
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: reminding him I will I want this game, we you
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: need this game. How do you approach this as a
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: head coach?
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Well, for me, it's probably somewhere in between. I think
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: the players do know what's at stake. It's a great
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: rivalry anyway, just off the top. But then you have
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: to they have to know how you feel about this
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: game as their coach. And so anytime I came into
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: a game like this, I would probably start my Monday
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: meetings talking about exactly that how important this game is.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: You know, everyone, Look, every game is important. I understand that,
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: but this one, let's get after it. You know. It
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: was just something like that, and then then I don't
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: think you have to dwell on it too much during
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: the week.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Intensity shouldn't be an issue, right, You're always going whenever
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: you go up against a division foe, but then when
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: you're tied at the top of the division, then it
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: kind of pumps up a little bit. So how do
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: you make sure that they understand the importance and yet
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: also keeping it calm enough to where you're paying attention
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: to details and not shooting yourself on the foot.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: Well, I think you do exactly what you just said. Buck.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: You talk about the importance of the game, and they
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: have to see you're a change in you. You know,
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: I've talked to you guys before that whenever I played
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: against the team or coached against the team that I
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: previously had worked for, the players said I changed. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: was different that week. I didn't. I wasn't sure how
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: I was different, but they sensed it. So if the players,
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: if you can convey that to the players yet at
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: the same time. To your point, Listen, we still have
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: to tackle, we still have to block, we have to
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: do the basic things, no turnovers, and just like any
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: other game. But they know and you've got to convey
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: that somehow, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, speaking of former teams, asked us of Greg earlier,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: I would get a ear perspective on this.
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine most of.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: The time, when you had, like a player who played
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: on the team that you're getting ready to go against,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: you probably didn't seek out their advice.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: That's that would be my guess.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: You're probably not going to go ask the punter, hey,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: what makes Matt Stafford tick just because he used to
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: play with him. But when you've got two guys as
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: sharp as Cooper Cup and Ernest Jones, I mean, the
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: middle of their defense two years ago and arguably their
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: best player just too, you know, two years ago, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: certainly both cerebral players, how much do you tap into
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: how much they know about their former teammates.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: You absolutely tap in, particularly what guys like you mentioned,
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: you know, who are you know who know the game?
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: Who you can see that in their play for you?
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: And yeah, you talk to them what bothers them? What?
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: What what helps them? What what what should we do
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: in this situation? What can we expect on offense in
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: this situation? I remember one time we had we got
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: Reggie White and Green Bay from Philly or he was
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: a free agent, and then so I sat him down.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: We're we're playing the Eagles, and I sat him down
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: at lunch and I said, hey, tell me about it
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: the defensive calls, you know, tell me about well how
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: they call their defenses. And he goes, well, they call
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: it blue or red. I said, okay, what is blooming?
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: Blue means I played the run. Red means I'm unleashed
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: and I can rush the passer. I said, is that it? Yeah,
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: that's pretty much it. So that was a lunchtime that
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: didn't didn't mount too much. But you know so, but
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: you would ask guys, absolutely, you would ask guys.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Coach if Mike McDonald or Clinton Kobiak had called you in,
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: and maybe they did, I mean, if they're smart, they
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: would and they said, you know, we want you to
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: give Sam one pointer, Donald, to give one pointer of
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: what he needs to be cautious of or make sure
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: that he does correctly.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: What would that.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: One thing be that he needs to be on top
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: of it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: As far as his game goes this weekend.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: Well, I would I would just say, don't don't press.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: You know, we just talked about how important this game
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: is and he knows that. And you know a lot
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: of comparisons are made between Stafford and Donald this week.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: But you know, I just play. Just do what you've
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: been doing, you know, and be careful when you get
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: in the red zone. Don't press. Every play is not there.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: We hope it's there, but every play is not there.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: So be smart and then you know, and then but
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: then play the game, but try and avoid anything any
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: crazy throws. Be smart.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Now when you are Mike McDonald and you're known for
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: being a defensive specialist, and now you're going up against
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: this guy here who's known for his offensive mind, and
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: you got a good year and a half in so
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: now you can't call yourself a rookie anymore. Like you
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: want to match wits with this guy. Are those things
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: that you used to embrace that you would do differently,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: like when you would face Buddy Ryan. How much different
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: was your prep in getting ready for that game?
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, it absolutely was different because Buddy Ryan's defenses were
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: unique at the time. And I remember telling our guys
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: with the forty nine ers as an example, okay, and
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: they run around and they do stuff, and they you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: just instead of our normal progression reads, just throw to
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: the first guy who's open. Just don't worry about the
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: second ords. Just go to the first guy who's open.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: And that seemed to work better against his teams. Now
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: that's the only time we did that. Otherwise, you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: we were pretty buttoned down. And I tried to do
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: that with our passing game every place I've been, but
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: against teams that really try and do a lot of
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: stuff to confuse you, you have to simplify what you're
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: telling the quarterback for that game.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Does McVeigh, I mean, what do you think of him
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: as an offensive play caller? Is he as good as
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: there is out there?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Right now?
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: I think he is, juck, I really do. I think
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: you know, he's aggressive. But you know, and I told
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: you before I had a chance to interview him provide
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl when I worked that game, and he
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: was just excited, young. He was really fun and very
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: impressive young guy. And of course his record has proven
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: that he's done very well. Now I would say this
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: and also in any situation It kind of helped me
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: when I had Joe Montana. It kind of helped me
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: look pretty good. And so you know, he's got Matthew Stafford,
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: and so I don't think there are any restrictions. He
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: just has to you know, he can do whatever he
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: feels the quarterback has to do because he has the
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: guy that can do it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: My guess is, you tell me that offensive genius will
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: always top defensive genius. But tell me at least lie
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: to me that Sunday it's going to be different.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: No.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: I can't lie to you. I really can't. You know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: if you're an offensive genius. You know, look at look
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: what I just told you about the greatest defensive lineman
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: in history of football blue and red, you know, And
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: I remember, do you remember a guy named.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Jim Burt Oh, yeah, from the Giants.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: Nose tackle for the Giants. Really a good player, I said,
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: tell me about playing nose tackle. He goes, well, I
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: either hit him straight in the nose or I go
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: to the right or go to the left. I go
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: that's it.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: So that's your defensive prep for the week.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, understood, understood, Well, have a great weekend.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: We look forward to breaking it down with you on Monday.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: Okay, guys, you too, all right, Mike.
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  Speaker 6: You know what?
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  Speaker 5: The good thing is is that the day after he
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