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Hour Three | Nick Underhill Joins, Wild Cornhole Story & WR Market Talk · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the Raisin Caines Studio.
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  Speaker 4: It's off the Bench, all right, welcome back in I
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  Speaker 4: remember three of O t B. Here live from the
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  Speaker 5: It is Tuesday at nine am, so you know what
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  Speaker 5: that means.
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  Speaker 4: We catch up with our guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans stuff,
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  Speaker 4: football talk, a little New Orleans Saints, Nicholas. How we
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  Speaker 4: doing this week, sir, doing fantastic. Got spring football starting today? Wadela.
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  Speaker 4: She's Pro day yesterday. We got the draft right around
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  Speaker 4: the corner. So a great time on the sports calendar.
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  Speaker 4: Did you maybe take a look into a couple of
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  Speaker 4: pro days? Feels like some big ones for L s
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  Speaker 4: U Miami, L s U yesterday. Any thoughts about what
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  Speaker 4: happened at those two pro days?
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I want to point out a
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  Speaker 2: week ago today you were you were ahead of everybody
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  Speaker 2: by having the starting, the delaying conversation for the for
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  Speaker 2: the Saints. Yeah, and then he goes out there and
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  Speaker 2: he runs like that and all of a sudden, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's how it goes to or Oh man, now he's
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  Speaker 2: he's top ten for sure, and he's kind of for
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  Speaker 2: in the top ten before.
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  Speaker 6: But he is.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I don't think a lot of people expected him
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  Speaker 2: to be able to run like that. You know, they
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  Speaker 2: thought he was fast, they thought he you know, great,
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  Speaker 2: great press coverage corner. I checked him with scouts, you know,
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  Speaker 2: LSU put out four three five. The time around the
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  Speaker 2: league was was four three seven at the lowest, four
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  Speaker 2: three nine at the highest. So like a very very
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  Speaker 2: legit time that they put out there. The second one
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  Speaker 2: was four four four. He really ran that though, And yeah, look,
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  Speaker 2: I think I think, like I think everything you said
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  Speaker 2: was incredibly accurate. And I'm not trying to gash you here,
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  Speaker 2: but like I think it's it's an outstanding.
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  Speaker 3: Thing for the Saints. Either they want him, somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Else wants him, they trade for him, or somebody ahead
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  Speaker 2: of the Saints wants him and they take him, and
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  Speaker 2: that means another guy falls down. Like that spot at
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  Speaker 2: eight is starting to look better and better. As you
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  Speaker 2: go through it, like, there's just a handful of guys
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  Speaker 2: that that feel like they're really actually worth that pick,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think you're gonna feel bad about who
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  Speaker 2: you get.
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  Speaker 7: Out of there, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And Miami was the other one that that was a
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  Speaker 2: big one yesterday, Kellen Moore was out there. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think, all things being equal, if if the Saints
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  Speaker 2: could pick one guy out of the you know, the
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  Speaker 2: top ten prospects for the team, I think it'd be
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  Speaker 2: Ruben Bayin. But I don't think that he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be there for them.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys seen his interview with
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  Speaker 2: Cam Wilt from NFL Network where you can just talk
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  Speaker 2: about like Mike Tyson being undersized and it didn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of love that, but yeah, man, like it's just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it just feels like they're they're in a
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  Speaker 2: good spot right now. You've got the team belt kind
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  Speaker 2: of the right way, and it seems like the draft's
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  Speaker 2: gonna fall havotageously for them too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like the Saints are in a really good spot.
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  Speaker 5: And we talked about it.
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  Speaker 4: Now Washington is seven because they only have, you know,
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  Speaker 4: pick seven. I think there's seven seventy one and like
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  Speaker 4: one forty six somewhere in that ballpark. And so they
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  Speaker 4: could use some other assets in this draft obviously as
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  Speaker 4: well not having mini picks, and I mean the Saints
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  Speaker 4: and the Marshall and Lattimore deal, that's like one reason.
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  Speaker 4: But the Dolphins have eleven picks, and so like, if
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  Speaker 4: the Dolphins wanted to go from eleven to seven, like
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  Speaker 4: that would make a lot of sense. And the Dolphins
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  Speaker 4: need a corner. But also like if Washington doesn't want
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  Speaker 4: to move, Let's say Jeremiah loves there and Washington could
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  Speaker 4: add a running back even though they've signed you know one,
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  Speaker 4: I had a rookie play okay last year, they still
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  Speaker 4: could go running back. And if that happens, then Nick,
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  Speaker 4: then you're talking about you're in a great spot because
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  Speaker 4: teams nine, ten, eleven, twelve all need a corner. And
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  Speaker 4: if Monster Delaine is the guy that all those teams want, now,
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  Speaker 4: that would be crazy for Mickey to ever trade back,
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  Speaker 4: but he would be in a great position to do so.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you do these muck drafts like and now
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like you're sitting there at eight
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  Speaker 2: and there's like five guys, you're like, man, I'd be
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  Speaker 2: cool with you know X, Y Z here. And and
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  Speaker 2: if that's really how you feel and someone wants in
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  Speaker 2: the corner, I mean it is. It is the best
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  Speaker 2: way to do it. I think this year, like you
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  Speaker 2: just have so you have so many places you can
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  Speaker 2: go with it, and if you can pick up like
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  Speaker 2: another second round or somewhere, I mean, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: like you're just you're just building so much better. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, you said it last week, like it's so
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  Speaker 2: deep at edge, like you could trade back get something else.
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  Speaker 2: You pick up an edge in the second, you get
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  Speaker 2: your receiver in the second, and then whatever you're getting
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  Speaker 2: in the first, Like and I think you add three
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  Speaker 2: guys to a team that you know, all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden like that, there's a lot of building blocks out
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  Speaker 2: on this team. And I think last year when we
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  Speaker 2: were talking about it at this time, it was like
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  Speaker 2: maybe they got fogged up, maybe they got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of a and it didn't feel like there were a
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  Speaker 2: lot of long term building blocks. And you look around now,
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  Speaker 2: like you get Chris on a new deal. Who by
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  Speaker 2: the way, man that Jay said contract. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: anybody was probably happier that when that hit is now
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I don't think it puts him above.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're asking for thirty four million, and now
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  Speaker 2: the ceiling on the position just went up, now you're
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  Speaker 2: you're eight and a half million dollars away from that,
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  Speaker 2: and that just becomes a more realistic number for you.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, you know that, that's why you always
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  Speaker 2: want to get those things done sooner than later. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you got him, you got shucked, you got you know, Edwards, Banks, Buaga, mccoye.
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  Speaker 2: If he's healthy, Like offensively.
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  Speaker 3: You got a lot of guys you can build around.
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  Speaker 2: Hm another one, like you.
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  Speaker 3: Got a young, good offense.
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  Speaker 2: Now defensively, like you got a couple guys like Kate
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  Speaker 2: Ellis is in there. You know, you feel probably pretty
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  Speaker 2: good about kool aid. You get a few more guys
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  Speaker 2: on that side of the ball, but like Shanker's in
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  Speaker 2: there probably, But I mean they got to handle it up.
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  Speaker 2: And you had like three guys in the draft, Like
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  Speaker 2: if you hit on two out of those three as
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  Speaker 2: you straight back and you get you know, three picks
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  Speaker 2: in the first two rounds, I don't know, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like the lane development could be a huge thing to them,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, they could just pick them like and
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  Speaker 2: they could definitely use him. I felt probably better about
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  Speaker 2: Cooley last year than I did about Riley. I feel
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  Speaker 2: okay about both, But I mean, you put him in
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  Speaker 2: that next with the one too. And even if you
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  Speaker 2: know O'Riley isn't your spot player who cares like you
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  Speaker 2: always need that's at that position. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of ways to go with it, man, Like there really is.
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  Speaker 3: Like I think they're in a great spot.
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  Speaker 7: Nick, Why wasn't there any more urgency to get the
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  Speaker 7: lave done deal done? I mean this, I guess you
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  Speaker 7: couldn't foresee this type of number happening. One hundred and
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  Speaker 7: twenty million guarantees like forty two or something like that
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  Speaker 7: per year for JSN. They knew, they had to know
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  Speaker 7: something was coming for him, for that player in particular,
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  Speaker 7: that would give a lat of some sort of comp
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  Speaker 7: to go against. Now, certainly he's not the player JSN is,
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  Speaker 7: but he's certainly not seventy five percent of the player
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  Speaker 7: he is, which would be like a little over thirty
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  Speaker 7: million a year. So like, why wasn't there any more
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  Speaker 7: urgency to get this deal done faster.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a good question. And yeah, like
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  Speaker 2: obviously he's not going on over it, and obviously you
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  Speaker 2: knew that was in the in the in the lend
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  Speaker 2: and the Kuka ones coming behind it too, so you
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  Speaker 2: know that that one could will probably be market resetting
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  Speaker 2: as well. It's it's, it's it's a good question. Like.
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  Speaker 2: So my read on the whole thing is is that
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  Speaker 2: I think at one point it was kind of kind
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  Speaker 2: of close, you know, I think and I still think
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  Speaker 2: it's probably the parameters of it are probably pretty close.
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  Speaker 2: Like I would assume both sides are probably pretty settled
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  Speaker 2: on a on a year structure and a you know,
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  Speaker 2: average annual value structure, Like I don't think those numbers
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  Speaker 2: are hard to come by, Like you can just kind
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  Speaker 2: of look at it. Hey, Garrett Wilson's at thirty two
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  Speaker 2: point five. Chris is his numbers that feed him everywhere
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  Speaker 2: seventeen game averages are better? Is his overall numbers are better?
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  Speaker 2: You know, And that that kind of flipped back in
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  Speaker 2: Chris's direction. Last year Chris just had the second team
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  Speaker 2: All Pro so and Garrett and Chris both happen to
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  Speaker 2: have the same agent. I believe, so, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one set to the other, there's no way they're going
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  Speaker 2: to take less, So like thirty two point six would
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  Speaker 2: have to be the floor on this. But then you
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  Speaker 2: look at DK metcalf, He's at thirty three and that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of an old deal and I think Chris has
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  Speaker 2: exceeded him too, So you're probably somewhere on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of thirty three. I think probably all sides can
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  Speaker 2: agree on that pretty easily, and they know where that's
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  Speaker 2: going to go. I think where it gets tricky is
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  Speaker 2: with the guarantees.
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  Speaker 3: And I do think on the Alat side that.
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  Speaker 2: There's a a realism about the situation and the risk
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  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. I don't think it's probably unreasonable
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  Speaker 2: from his point of view about, you know, the team
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  Speaker 2: looking for ways to protect itself. But I would imagine
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  Speaker 2: that that's probably a complicated battle that you know, they
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  Speaker 2: probably don't want to be stuck in a place where
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  Speaker 2: if there's another concussion, they're stuck, and I'm assuming Chris
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  Speaker 2: probably wants a certain level of guarantee. I think where
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  Speaker 2: it ends up probably settling somewhere in the middle where
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  Speaker 2: you know, hey, look, you're going to guarantee most of
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  Speaker 2: the first two years, and then if you play seventy
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  Speaker 2: percent of the snatch, the year two, year three becomes guaranteed,
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  Speaker 2: and like probably different threshold through that. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: when it's Drew Rosenhaus and Mickey Loomis and they're both
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  Speaker 2: shrewd negotiators, I mean, that's that thing's gonna grind out,
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  Speaker 2: man like it. And you know, there's probably a lot
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  Speaker 2: of moving pieces here, and Drew's by gotta be you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's got to look out for his guy, but he
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  Speaker 2: also has to you know, be be. You know, there's
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  Speaker 2: precedent for his other clients too that that.
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  Speaker 3: He's probably battling against.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it probably becomes a little bit messy
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  Speaker 2: because you know, there.
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  Speaker 3: Aren't a lot of guys that have had that concussion.
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  Speaker 2: History, that are that young, that are you know, coming
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  Speaker 2: off of All Pro season, So it's not like you
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  Speaker 2: can even you had an anchor point you're like, well,
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  Speaker 2: they did this, So this is kind of where it's at,
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  Speaker 2: Like you're trying to figure that out. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing that that's you know that there were a
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  Speaker 2: few times already this offseason where where I thought you know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you kind of start catching them signals, hey
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  Speaker 2: like this is this is starting to move, like it's
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  Speaker 2: getting closer, And a couple of times I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was going to hit kind of early, but I think
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  Speaker 2: it's just some sticking points on on kind of how
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  Speaker 2: the guarantee structure is going to work on that. But
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  Speaker 2: when it comes in, I would, I would, I would,
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  Speaker 2: you know, feel pretty confident that it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: somewhere north of that DK number.
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  Speaker 4: Catching up with Nick Underhill New one stuff football here
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  Speaker 4: on ot b uh. If we go to the Saints
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  Speaker 4: free agency and there's two guys that have been valuable
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  Speaker 4: to the Saints. Now they're older, Taysom Hill going to
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  Speaker 4: be thirty six and you know, not really knowing what's
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  Speaker 4: going to happen if he's going to play football. But
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  Speaker 4: it's more with Cam Jordan, who's going to be thirty seven,
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  Speaker 4: coming off a very productive year ten and a half
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  Speaker 4: to actually all know that what's the latest you're hearing
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  Speaker 4: with those two free agents? And you know is Taysom
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  Speaker 4: kind of a he's either going to play for the
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  Speaker 4: Saints or he's not gonna play at all.
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  Speaker 5: And where's Cam Jordan? Right now in his relationship with
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  Speaker 5: a franchise.
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  Speaker 2: I think those two you got, well, I'll throw Alvin
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  Speaker 2: and there. I think those three guys they're teachers with
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  Speaker 2: the team, are kind of the most interesting thing right now.
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  Speaker 2: I think Tayson for sure is retirement. I mean it's possible,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he can come back, right like, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: reluctant to say this, so, like what would his place
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  Speaker 2: be with the team. I think if he came back,
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  Speaker 2: it would have to be in a basically a league
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  Speaker 2: minimum type role where you're kind of looking at him,
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  Speaker 2: like like how they used Jimmy Graham that year from
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  Speaker 2: the tyard line in and it's like, hey, look, Bason
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  Speaker 2: average two point two yards for Kerry last year he
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  Speaker 2: completed like thirty percent of the stats. He stumbled, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it was four o'clock times. I don't
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  Speaker 2: love number of carriers. Like, I think it's just kind
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  Speaker 2: of clear where he's at. But I think there's still
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  Speaker 2: value there from you know, those short yardage runs, go
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  Speaker 2: line runs. If he came back, it would have to
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  Speaker 2: be specifically that. I think, Yeah, I think you still
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  Speaker 2: gonna end up retiring. That seems to be where the
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  Speaker 2: wind's blowing on that nothing happened with the uh, the
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  Speaker 2: the contract to let it void. Like I think it's
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just kind of kind of clearly going
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  Speaker 2: going in one direction there so the the other. Like Cam, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: camp situation is interesting. I didn't I.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't expect it to go to this song.
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  Speaker 2: Like I really thought that they settle at a number,
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  Speaker 2: and I think, you know, that kind of signals three
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  Speaker 2: things here, and two of them are good for the Saints,
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  Speaker 2: Like Kim either doesn't have a market or he has
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  Speaker 2: a market and he isn't willing him to go, And
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  Speaker 2: you know, it just kind of seems seems like it's
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  Speaker 2: it's one of those two things, and both those things
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  Speaker 2: playing the Saints favors, so they're just sitting there waiting
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  Speaker 2: for him to, you know, probably take the offer that
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  Speaker 2: that they got on the table. You know, I would
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  Speaker 2: guess the fans are probably around six and a half
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  Speaker 2: and I would guess Dam's probably around ten. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think that there's there's some picking points over incentive
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  Speaker 2: laden deals. You know, I think Cam feels like he
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  Speaker 2: he did a favor for the team last year and
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  Speaker 2: out played it and now it's time for them to
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  Speaker 2: do him right, and you know, I think it's just
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  Speaker 2: kind of kind of at that crossroads. But uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just kind of it feels like it feels like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I still think this one probably gets done,
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  Speaker 2: but it's it's weird now. And the longer it goes like,
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  Speaker 2: the more chance is for like you know, hurt feelings
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  Speaker 2: or you know, someone just waking up and be like
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  Speaker 2: a fid I'm gonna go play against them, So I
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  Speaker 2: think anything is possible. That and then the album one
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  Speaker 2: is is incredibly fascinating. You know, the way they did
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  Speaker 2: that contract. It allows it so that they get the
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  Speaker 2: pro ration on the number and they haven't guaranteed any
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: additional money. There's three million dollars guaranteed. It's it's it's weird.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely a weird situation right now because it feels
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  Speaker 2: like the team has moved on. I think there their
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  Speaker 2: actions have told you they've moved on. Telling more has
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  Speaker 2: given weird answers about it.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: It is one of those things where you know when
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  Speaker 2: you're you're looking for for signs and signals and you
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  Speaker 2: know it's kind of got your year out there here
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  Speaker 2: on what's going on. I don't know. It kind of
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  Speaker 2: feels like maybe you know, until it just feels like
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  Speaker 2: anything is possible right now, Like I would not be
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  Speaker 2: surprised if if there was a separation. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be, but I think there's enough signals
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  Speaker 2: here to where you you know, it's kind of one
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  Speaker 2: of those things where you're you're perked up and you're like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: like this this feels like it's going a certain direction
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  Speaker 2: and nobody's saying anything different. So, you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: I think a couple of things could happen there. I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you could retire, he could move on, or
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  Speaker 2: I think it becomes back and it have to be
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  Speaker 2: you know, on a paycott, And I honestly think it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I think Alvin's probably the one that wants
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  Speaker 2: to to keep it more than anybody. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's an interesting situation. It's just it just looks
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  Speaker 2: very weird, Like the signals do it are very weird.
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  Speaker 2: Like the way they did his contract is the same
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  Speaker 2: way they did Marshawn's contract when they started looking to
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  Speaker 2: move on from him, you know, so and everybody else.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: It's always just a clean restructure. The money gets guaranteed
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: and they're on the team and you get that pro
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  Speaker 2: ration that way, like they they deliberately kept their flexibility
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  Speaker 2: open here and and it's just nobody's saying anything about anything.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's a very it's a very you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying it's there's
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  Speaker 2: there's curiosities around so around this one a little bit
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  Speaker 2: right now, Nick.
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  Speaker 7: How much influence on personnel decisions, on the free agent line,
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  Speaker 7: on the on the upcoming draft. How much influence does
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  Speaker 7: Kellen Moore have.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great question. Yeah, I think he has a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, it kind of feels like it's operating
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: a little bit differently the last the last last year
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: in this year. You know, I kind of think that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the personal decisions were we're driven first
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  Speaker 2: and foremost by the head coach. And I think now
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  Speaker 2: it's more like, here's.
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  Speaker 3: The things we would like to have, here's the things
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  Speaker 2: like to have go to work. And I think there's
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of more of that right now that
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: than there has been the last uh few years. You know,
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: I think he's still obviously, like very very involved, and
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I think I think the front office is more involved,
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  Speaker 2: like in shaping decision than than they have been in
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: the last few years. So I think that that's definitely
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  Speaker 2: a ship right now. And they got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: guys up there, man like that they've done a they've
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  Speaker 2: done it.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting, like they've done a good.
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  Speaker 2: Job of getting people with experience and people that have
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  Speaker 2: done a good job in the league into that into
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  Speaker 2: that front office. And I think it's one of those
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  Speaker 2: things where you know you're on path what you can
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: spend on your resources as far as personal brand power,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. And you know, I think they they've
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  Speaker 2: they've invested there, like Randy Buehlers you know, in there,
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  Speaker 2: and he's very very involved in what they're doing. And
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously he was really good at a GM
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: work with Mickey before, and I think he's been a
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: great influence on that group. Dimitrov is up there as
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: a uh, you know, more of a more of a consultant,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: not necessarily day to day, but he's he's involved in
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: the big picture and all that stuff. You know, and
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: they've just done a good job of bringing these guys
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: guys back. Dave Ziegler was here last year and then
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: he's in kind of see now, is uh, I think
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: an assistant GM.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: There and they're kind of doing the same.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Thing too, but kind of stacking that brand power and
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: you know, stuff like gems don't don't get to retreat
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: like they kind of do their job and then things
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: that one one or two things go sideways and everything
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: wells a partner out and that doesn't that doesn't make
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: them a less capable scout, you know, it doesn't make
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: their lessons in the league less valuable. So I think,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of bringing those guys in and layer
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: and I think I think, I don't know, like all
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: we can do is judge last year's results and it's
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: a small sample, and you know, it could be a
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: false signal or whatever. But it seems like things are
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: kind of you know, working well right now, and I
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: think there has been a little bit of a change there.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: All right there he is Nick Underhill, New Orleans Stuff Football.
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  Speaker 4: as always, look forward to our next conversation.
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  Speaker 6: Enjoy the rest of your.
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  Speaker 2: Week, sir, Yeah, gentlemen, take it easy, all right.
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  Speaker 7: Oh Man, I don't even know how to approach this story.
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  Speaker 7: That's what y'all sent in the group text yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: What I sent? Yeah, do you want to talk about it?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: I do want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 9: You know, I want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know you're talking about you can uh intro it?
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: So there is a big story making its way across
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: as socials and I'm not I don't know if I'm exaggerating,
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: like when we say that this is one of the
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: more wild sentences ever written in the English language. Twenty
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: seven year old Dayton Weber, a professional quadruple amputee cornhole player,
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: is accused of fatally shooting somebody and that's pretty much
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: the lead end of the story.
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: And what, Yeah, this guy's like a quadruple quadruple amputee.
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: When he was a baby, he got a bacterial infection
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: and he was actually given like his last rites and everything,
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: like they thought he was gonna die, but he ended
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: up getting both his arms and his legs cut off
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: and he survived. But so this isn't the first time
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: he's making headlines. He's made history before. He was the
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: first quadruple amputee to compete in the professional televised American
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: Cornhole League, So he's pretty much a legend.
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: After I saw the story, I feel like I've seen
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: him clips of him through like Raking.
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: Too, Like he's really good at cornhole.
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, well I don't know because I never really
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: paid attention to the American Cornhole League before this, but.
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: Now he's kind of putting them on the map.
• 22:01
  Speaker 10: But yeah, he was arrested on charges facing He's facing
• 22:06
  Speaker 10: murder charges in connection with the death of his friend
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: Roderick Wells, and he apparently shot him in the car,
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: they got an argument in the car, and at around
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: ten twenty five pm on Sunday, the police recalled in.
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: He is accused of killing his friend in the car,
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: this quadruple amputee.
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: I I don't I don't think he did it, say.
• 22:36
  Speaker 10: One of the reporters asked the I guess the cop
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: or the sheriff. I guess the Sheriff's department held like
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: a press conference or something, and they asked, like, was
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: this gun made like for somebody that was an amputee,
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: Like you could add special stuff to it for an
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: amputee to use it, but that the shaff Of department
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: was like, we don't have an answer to that right now.
• 23:03
  Speaker 11: And I know there's been videos going around of like,
• 23:07
  Speaker 11: remember the guy in the Olympics didn't have any arms,
• 23:08
  Speaker 11: we shoot in the bow and era with his his.
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: Feet and everything.
• 23:12
  Speaker 11: Pulling the trigger in the car is gonna be even
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: harder because like, if you're to range, you can take
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: your time and do all that.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: I just, yeah, I don't know.
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: I'm assuming he wasn't driving.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: Tricky situation here, definitely, and it is a headline people
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: are talking about it. I told me he was the
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: driver of the car. I'd believe you at this one.
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: It's our journalistic responsibility to speak about this.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: So.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna be honest. So I used to know.
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: I used to know somebody that didn't have arms, but
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: they did have legs, and he would drive a car,
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: but he would drive the car like with his feet,
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: and he had the brakes like up top, so that
• 24:02
  Speaker 10: it was like he could break with like you know.
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: So I'm assuming that there is a way that he
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: drove off. I don't know, like he does have the
• 24:12
  Speaker 10: prosthetics on his legs and arms too.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: I guess right, I just but I have seen clips
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: playing the corner crashing corner.
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: I was trying not to laugh, but like a Laundra's
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: statement was just objectively funny when she was like, yeah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: this isn't the first time he made headlines.
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, no, he he made headlines because he was like
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: legendary cornhole player.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Bilbo said, if you're letting your quadruple amputee drive you around,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: you're already on borrow.
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah you're asking.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: So I don't think.
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: I don't think he was the one driving the car
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: at the time. I think he was a passenger in
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: the car. And then after he killed his I get
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: they're saying that they're friends, but I wouldn't kill my friend,
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: So I don't know if you can call him a friend.
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: But he drove off after is how I'm understanding.
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  Speaker 4: So he was.
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: Much arrested as a fugitive.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: It's kind of got a.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: He's like, no, I did that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Like him?
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: This is him, I believe, actually holding the fire arm.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: That doesn't look like there's like a special attachment on
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: it either.
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: No, but it also doesn't look like he can pull
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: the trigger.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: But I've seen but I think that they the video
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: went around socials as well, like him actually firing, like
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: cocking it, firing it. Okay, mmm, where'd.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: Just see this story?
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: I saw it on Twitter and then I did my
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: research because I felt like I had to for the people.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: What people need to know.
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: Anyway, now you're updated on the latest professional corn hole.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: Correct, Dayton Weber takes something.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: It's a very sportsy name, Dayton Weber. Yeah, that is
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: a good name.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Feels like he's an SEC Saturday starter.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: He does with a name like that.
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: You know, he like transferred from a smaller school.
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: So Weber was the one that was driving the car.
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: Wells was in the front seat passenger.
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: I'm not.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Situation.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: There were other people in the vehicle.
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: They started arguing in front of others. Weber allegedly shot
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: Wells to death and pulled over in the community.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: I feel like this is pretty cut and dry it
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: So then he asked.
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: Wait, he asked the other passengers to help him remove
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: him from the car. The others refused, got out of
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: the car and fled the scene, while Weber drove away
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: with the body.
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: Asking for help. Like you guys saw that right?
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Like that?
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he had that comment, like you saw what.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: Was the last part?
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: He drove away with the body.
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: So he was driving.
• 27:12
  Speaker 11: Multiple people felt safe enough for him to drive, and
• 27:15
  Speaker 11: they just casually watched him, like Okay, if he shot
• 27:17
  Speaker 11: this gun, there's no way he's like quick drawing it, right.
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: He kind of got to take your time and do that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: We speculate all we want. Someone in the chat says,
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: do they would they officially call that friendly fire?
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: Probably? So, yeah, I would say that's friendly fire.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: Fair point Stone Taylor.
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: I just just I just have some questions.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of questions answered. I'm sure they will
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: in the court of wall.
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: That you've seen Year one. Anybody ever seen that?
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: Jack Black, Michael, Sarah in it, caanaan Abel are in it,
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: and you know they reenact Caine, you know, killing his
• 28:01
  Speaker 11: brother Abel.
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: And he's like, you gotta saw that riding with self
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: defense right, like you saw, like you saw. They're like no, no,
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: like you totally just killed him. He's like, no, no, no, no,
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: like you saw. It's the only thing I can think of.
• 28:12
  Speaker 10: So he plays cornhole quadruple empty tea, by the way,
• 28:16
  Speaker 10: plays cornhole, drives and can shoot and drive at the
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: same time.
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: Winning and convince his friends to let them show for him,
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: show for him.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Are out.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the murder thing's not great, but a
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: lot of odds. Daniel Bastin says, give this guy a hand.
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: I don't even want to look at the chat right
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: now because I know I'm gonna just start laughing my
• 28:50
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• 28:52
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  Speaker 5: Or far or we could be in the sports show category.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't known. I'd rather talk about which pastel
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  Speaker 6: colors are the best for Easter.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I do like the green one. Lavender is great.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like lavender because goaded like I like L
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  Speaker 4: s U purple. You know, so that's the cate of
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: purple I prefer. Yeah, it's a goaded pastel color.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: It is mean. It's a good one too. Yeah, thank
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: you appreciate that.
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: I'm a little worried about dev He didn't answer when
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: we called him. Yeah, hasn't responded my text.
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  Speaker 4: He probably watched Raw last night. Got a little crazy. Yeah,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: get it happens.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: Been there.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Do we think that Nick o'derhill thinks that Alave is
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: gonna get the same contract as Jason are close?
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: That would insane if.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: I think, I think what he's saying is that they
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: he believes are probably asked his side of things and
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: ask him for like thirty four, which just like that's
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: gonna be eight and a half million dollars last mon
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: than the new than Jaysn's contract.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: So it brings more validity to what they're asking, right right,
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: JSN in three years has three thy five hundred and
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: fifty one yards. He had six twenty eight, eleven, thirty, seventeen,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: ninety three one offensive Player of the Year in the
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: NFL last year. He has twenty touchdowns and three seasons.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Chris Alave in four seasons has nineteen touchdowns, so one
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: less touchdown total yards thirty seven to twenty eight, so
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: he's little on two hundred yards more in one more season,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: although he certainly dealt with some injuries through the concussions,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: so it's you know, another concern as well. It's not
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: to say chrysal Lock is not a really, really really
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: good player. He is, but Jaysn just went offensive player
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: of the Year in the league.
• 33:52
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that asking price for sure, Like, okay, we didn't
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: we didn't really talk about this. Alec Pierce getting one
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: hundred and sixteen million dollars. ALVE's got to be happy
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: about that. Like Ale Pierce had a good season last year.
• 34:04
  Speaker 11: He's a one thousand yard season a lot.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I said, three, he's had more Alec peers. To his credit,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: he's had more big plays than he receive in the
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: last three years.
• 34:14
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's why he only had like sixty seven catches
• 34:17
  Speaker 11: last year. Catches are like forty yard But like is
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: that sustainable too? I guess yeah. The and that's why
• 34:24
  Speaker 11: I asked him the question I did of like why
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: was there more urgency? And maybe it was a love
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: said dragging their feet because they knew that contractor is coming.
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: We like, Puka is gonna get done, like Nick said,
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: like Puka's going to set the market.
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: He's gonna set So at that point, maybe it was
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: them dragging their feet right just to have that argument,
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: But I certainly would have made it a priority to
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: get that deal done before those two hit the market.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: And then the Alec Pierce kind of comes out of
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: nowhere with that, with that, with those dollars amounts. So
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: when with this whole one end of the season was
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: like was came about, I was like, man, you got
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: to try to get Alva LIKEW seven twenty eight something
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: like that tops happened. I mean, thirty four is gonna
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: seem like a bargain now, I mean.
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: Nick mentioned DK's at thirty three.
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: You look at the deal Alec Pierce had, Like, say
• 35:15
  Speaker 11: what you want about a love He's getting more and
• 35:17
  Speaker 11: probably deserves it at this point in his career, more
• 35:20
  Speaker 11: than they do.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: And you can say whatever you want about like what
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: you think about him and his stature and like his
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: skill set that he has. But yeah, you can't argue,
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: like numbers are numbers, and you can't argue he had
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: number one receiver numbers and he's a great addition and
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: did a lot of great things, but he had more
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: production than DK did by a lot.
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: Think about a guy like DK Metcalf like this, this
• 35:42
  Speaker 11: JSN deal kills the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, first of all,
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: that you can't sign Pickens. I don't want them to
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: sign Pickens. Like you're already paying cdee Lamb a lot
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: of money. He's gonna want more in a few years.
• 35:57
  Speaker 11: You're gonna pay your wide receiver to thirty five mil.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: I mean, George Pickens had a.
• 36:02
  Speaker 9: Great season, I get it, but you can't pay both
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: Doublem really good.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Cowboys did a good job of getting under the cap.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I mean they were well over Now they're fourteen and
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: a half million under the cap. Now you gotta sign
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: your draft class. That's gonna take from that as well.
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: But I mean you could even say Pickets had a
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: better year than a lave right, Like it looked like
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: like from the optics, it looked different.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: I mean outside of JSN.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: And Puka.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Let me see, Yeah, JSN and Pooka and then George
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Pickens seventeen ninety three for JSN, seventeen fifteen for Puka,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: and then fourteen twenty nine was third for George Pickens.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: It was eighth in catches, third in yards, eighth in touchdown,
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: seventh in yards per catch.
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: Hmmm, fascinating contracts. This JSN thing, super fascinating. So didn't
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: number one receiver and.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Puka was the same draft And if I'm not mistaken,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Puka has been playing on the fifth round deal his.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: Whole time, right obviously, Yeah, he ill.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: And so we were talking about what thirty five thirty
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: seven some change for the Pukah's got forty two hundred
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: in three years, three hundred and thirteen catches in three
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: years and nineteen touchdowns. Yeah, and he means more to
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: the RAMS than almost any skill player means to their team,
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: you know, outside.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: A quarterback taxes though. He's about to set the marker.
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: And he should. Yeah, but I didn't know the mark
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: was going to be that high.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: He might he might actually do it before the season starts,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: because you know, hey, guys, I've been playing on a
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: fifth round deal and y'all have.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Twenty six million under the cap. I'm gonna need you.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: You can holler at me real quick. I've been great.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I've been good. I've never complained about my fifth round deal.
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: But a block, I catch, a run, I do, I
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: do all the things. I'm not like this one trick pony,
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: and he should set the mark. But who would have
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: thought that the mark for a top receiver, a number
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: one receiver on your team, one of the top of
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: the league is getting paid, you know, middle to high end,
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: not high end quarterback money, but good mid range quarterback
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: money per year. This kind of shit like tells you,
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: you know, in Best GM and Football, John Snyder is
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: what's the plan there? You know, what's the playing long term?
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: Can you sustain a complete team.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: That way?
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: Anybody can do it? I guess it's gonna be him,
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: but yeah, I mean it's you set the mark by
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: that much, you gotta like, how is what? What's your
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: How are you going to structure the rest of this
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: roster for the next three years?
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: Right? Because you got to always be thinking in advance.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to just trust that you've got the
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: GM to do it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: And you got same.
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: And look at Donald on a friendly contract now, which
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: I think is like two seven or something like that.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: And again, when you don't have dead money, like you
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: only have under half a million dollars in debt in
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: dead money, you still have thirty two million to spend
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: if you wanted to. Like, they've done such a nice
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: job of either developing their own guys and then rewarding
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: them with new contracts or like you said, given low
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: end free agent deals for the position and hitting on
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: those as well. It's their scouting department that's done the
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: job to believe that Sam Donald could be who he
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: is for sure and some of the other pieces that
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: they've added along the way.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: This it brings up the question when Donald's contract runs
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: out with them, what do they do at that point
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: with him?
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna I mean Sam still twenty eight twenty nine.
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: Certainly its contract now allows them the freedom to do
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: some of the things they're doing right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: It does.
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: That's a good question brought up in the chat Mitchell.
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: Who are the top three receivers in the NFL? Hookah, Jamar,
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: Chase Jamar and Justin Are. I mean, how are you
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: not going to put jays in in there in the conversation?
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: It's tough to have the three Jamar, Pookah js N.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: Maybe Saint Brown is in that gone raw. I mean,
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: the way Pickens played, he's stopped. He's gotta be up there.
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: Sam Donald's still twenty eight. It's crazy playing for twenty
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: five years.
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: Of his life.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Uh, hopefully Jets can get a quarterback that can throw
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: a forward pass this year.
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: We can see him get back to his ways, So
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: they do Kyler, see, I think it's gonna do well.
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: I hope so really, I honestly do. It's not like
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: just trying. I honestly think you'll probably.
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  Speaker 5: We know you're not afraid to talk negative about somebody here?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 5: I don't I don't know what were we talking about
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  Speaker 5: moving time slots?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 10: I honestly like getting the show over with in the
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: morning and then I have all day to do whatever
• 44:17
  Speaker 10: I want.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: Yep. Morning radio is definitely more for five years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: I leave like two two thirty, But on a good
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and you got plenty of something.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, we're let's I like having my time in between.
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• 44:44
  Speaker 7: mirror a little bit like We're not the most sporty
• 44:47
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• 44:49
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• 44:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it does as well. Is there a
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  Speaker 8: Got locked up, buddy, what do you We were pretty
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  Speaker 6: We were a good mix. Yeah, we were a good mix.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we gave contracts and catchers and numbers and
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  Speaker 6: A twist to it, you know, a murder situation. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Coach Molk is going to join us tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: But I think we've got to figure it out. So
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  Speaker 6: excited for that.
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