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Why YOU should be rooting for the Brewers + Tyler Phillips joins FT · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Our Pick Your Poison series continues. This one presented by
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  Speaker 1: Fox One. The Milwaukee Brewers, Kratz, you were once on
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  Speaker 1: this team and they have never won a World Series.
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  Speaker 1: They've been to the World Series once in 1982. You
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  Speaker 1: were on a team that got somewhat close. So tell
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  Speaker 1: us why fans of other teams that are sitting at
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  Speaker 1: home right now should be rooting for Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 2: Can't get any closer than we got. I mean, game
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  Speaker 2: seven at home, one game six.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The reason they should be rooting for this team is
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  Speaker 2: every one of the games that they play, you just
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  Speaker 2: feel like they're always in it. You're never like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: this one's over. They've mailed it in. They don't mail
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  Speaker 2: it in. Everything about their team is too deep. Even
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  Speaker 2: the pitchers that haven't pitched yet have the ability to
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  Speaker 2: have an impact. They're not afraid of making moves in
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  Speaker 2: the field to get the job done in that situation.
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  Speaker 2: They're not hitting and running on every play. They're not
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  Speaker 2: bunting every play. But they're trying to advance their teammate
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  Speaker 2: another 90 feet. They're trying to put together the best
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  Speaker 2: at-bat they can. And if you become a Brewers fan,
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  Speaker 2: because you're not now, except for Cubs fans, they're ultimately
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  Speaker 2: Brewers fans because they show up at the much nicer
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  Speaker 2: park that American Family Field is. You are going to
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  Speaker 2: a stadium that if you've never been there, it is
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  Speaker 2: electric and they are right on top of you. One
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite places to play even before I became
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  Speaker 2: a brewer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Here's the thing about brewers. If you like old
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  Speaker 4: school baseball, check. If you like good pitching, check. If
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  Speaker 4: you like fun atmospheres, check. If you like a team
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  Speaker 4: having fun, check. If you are looking for someone to
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  Speaker 4: root for that's never won a World Series, Christian Yelich, check.
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  Speaker 4: If you like a manager that's fun, Pat Murphy, check.
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  Speaker 4: If you like a fan base that starved for anything
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  Speaker 4: winning Brewers check it's, it's, it's hard to root against
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  Speaker 4: the Brewers. And listen, I also like the Dodgers a lot,
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  Speaker 4: Dave Roberts and a lot of their players. So, but
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  Speaker 4: if you're just a fan of baseball, then this is
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  Speaker 4: the team that you look at and say, man, they
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  Speaker 4: play this game fun and they play it hard and
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  Speaker 4: they do it. They do it the way that a
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  Speaker 4: lot of older school people would like to say. So,
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  Speaker 4: And Mark Antanasio, the owner, is great. Matt Arnold's been
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  Speaker 4: there for a long time. He does a great job.
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  Speaker 4: There's just a lot of things with this Brewer team
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  Speaker 4: that they do right, and that's why they're in the postseason.
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  Speaker 4: And plus, like we talked about with Cleveland yesterday, they
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  Speaker 4: haven't won a World Series ever. So why not?
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 4: The Brewers win their– what do they say? Win our way.
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  Speaker 4: And also, by the way, let's not forget Bob Buecher
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  Speaker 4: passed away. He never got to see him win one.
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  Speaker 4: So it would be kind of cool for Murph to
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  Speaker 4: read a letter from Bob Buecher after they win the
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  Speaker 4: World Series. Can you imagine what that letter might say?
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  Speaker 2: And the two theme calorie intakes of a brewer fan,
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  Speaker 2: cheese and beer. So if you like cheese and beer,
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  Speaker 2: this is your squad.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't like those. Is there anybody that doesn't like those? Scott,
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  Speaker 4: I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Scott doesn't like cheese. And the stuff in beer he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't like either. So it doesn't mean he doesn't like them.
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  Speaker 2: They don't like him.
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  Speaker 3: How about that? Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: They don't like me. I have a different version of
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  Speaker 5: that stuff. It's called tequila.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding. I do have.
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  Speaker 1: Some gluten-free action. But let's keep it on Milwaukee. This
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  Speaker 1: city is small in big league baseball terms. It's the
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  Speaker 1: smallest TV market until the A's become biggest. So for some,
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  Speaker 1: if you like rooting for the little engine that could,
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  Speaker 1: we already.
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  Speaker 5: Did one of these on Cleveland. They have the small payroll.
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  Speaker 1: The Brewers also live in a smaller window. less opportunity
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  Speaker 1: than others. I agree, but I think they have to
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  Speaker 1: trade their dudes away.
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  Speaker 4: They do, but they make good trade. It's like they
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  Speaker 4: make these trades and they trade a guy away and
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  Speaker 4: then they get to like, you look at Corbin Burns,
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  Speaker 4: they got deal hall has been nice for him. Joey
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  Speaker 4: Ortiz has been a start. Say what you want about
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  Speaker 4: Joey Ortiz, but he's been a nice player. He's been
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  Speaker 4: a starting player for multiple years for him in the
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  Speaker 4: Corbin Burns trade.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Devin Williams, they trade away. They get players back. It's
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  Speaker 4: like who do they trade away and they get guys back,
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  Speaker 4: and then when they get these guys back, they figure
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  Speaker 4: out how to plug them into Pat Murphy and Matt
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  Speaker 4: Arnold's system. So I think the Brewers have done a
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  Speaker 4: lot of right things, and I think that they're kind
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  Speaker 4: of a– listen, they're not the Rays as far as
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  Speaker 4: people looking at them saying we want to be the Brewers,
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  Speaker 4: but I think people should start looking at the Brewers
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  Speaker 4: and say, hey, we might want to look at the
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  Speaker 4: Brewers and how they do it because Antonaccio, Mark Antonaccio,
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  Speaker 4: their owner, They do spend money. It's not like they
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  Speaker 4: don't have anybody. They do spend a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: money that they have, and their stadium's awesome. There's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of things good about the Brewers. Again, if you
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  Speaker 4: like good baseball, watch the Brewers. They play good baseball.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All the models don't. All the models. Everybody's model does
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  Speaker 2: not choose them to win, and that's how teams are
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  Speaker 2: being built. They're saying our model is going to win,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's Pat Murphy, whatever it is. The other part
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  Speaker 2: of being a Brewers fan, and this is something the
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  Speaker 2: Rays do not do and will not afford you to
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  Speaker 2: do because they tried it once. I'm sorry. They got
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  Speaker 2: Evan Longoria, and then the next long-term extension they gave
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  Speaker 2: out hasn't worked out well. Obviously, you can look it up,
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  Speaker 2: Wander Franco. is you can buy a jersey of a
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  Speaker 2: favorite player. And while we said they got rid of Burns,
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  Speaker 2: they got rid of Peralta, they got rid of Hayter,
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff, they lock some dudes up that you
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  Speaker 2: are able to say, you know what? I can connect
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  Speaker 2: with a Cooper Pratt. I can connect. I can be
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  Speaker 2: a junior... Not junior Churrio. Junior Churrio was Jackson Churrio.
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  Speaker 2: Junior Churrio was one of my teammates. Churrio, you can
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  Speaker 2: buy a jersey and you can keep them. It's... It's
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  Speaker 2: rare that teams are locking guys up and then those
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  Speaker 2: dudes are making impacts. Luis Lara, Christian Jelic is now
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  Speaker 2: the captain. He's one of three captains in the big
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  Speaker 2: leagues right now. He's been locked up for a long
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  Speaker 2: time and they've won the entire time. So you know what?
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  Speaker 2: You can connect with your new team and connect with
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  Speaker 2: a certain player on that team.
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  Speaker 5: And you know why the models don't like them? They
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  Speaker 5: don't hit dingers. They don't have pop in the lineup.
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  Speaker 5: Jake Bowers.
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  Speaker 2: They do though.
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  Speaker 4: They have some dudes that can hit them. No, I know.
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  Speaker 5: They don't rank.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have the homers. They don't have the pulled
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  Speaker 1: fly ball contact. They go against the grain with things
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's cool. I think that's one reason why
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  Speaker 5: you should, what Murph wants.
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  Speaker 4: That's one of the great things brewers do is they,
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  Speaker 4: Matt Arnold does a great job of finding and as
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  Speaker 4: much as trash is, you know, Murph says about the
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  Speaker 4: ivory tower and we've had him on.
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  Speaker 2: He's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: They have a great communication. And they get players that
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  Speaker 4: Murph can fit into what he wants to do as
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  Speaker 4: a team. Christian Yelich is the captain, talks to guys
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  Speaker 4: and says, hey, ABC, this is how we do it here.
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  Speaker 4: And they find the guys that fit into needs that
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  Speaker 4: they have. And it's a lot like the Rays. The
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  Speaker 4: Rays find guys that fill needs that they have. And
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  Speaker 4: once they plug them in, they fit into the experience, whatever, atmosphere,
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  Speaker 4: clubhouse mentality, and they go from there.
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  Speaker 2: You said they don't hit a lot of home runs.
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  Speaker 2: I forget. We just had to stat up there 28th
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  Speaker 2: in the league. How about this? What if I ask this?
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to look it up right now. What if
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  Speaker 2: they hit just the right amount of home runs? What
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  Speaker 2: do we talk about? Teams that don't make adjustments because
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  Speaker 2: all they're trying to do is pull side power. They're
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  Speaker 2: trying to– everybody wants to hit home runs. And this
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  Speaker 2: is an extreme example, and I hate extreme examples, but
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  Speaker 2: Ichiro Suzuki. Go to a game and watch him take BP.
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  Speaker 2: He could hit a lot of homers. I forget who
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  Speaker 2: it was that said this. He could hit 40 if
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  Speaker 2: he put his mind to it. I'm not saying you
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  Speaker 2: can beat Ichiro Suzuki. He's a Hall of Fame player.
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying, what if they do hit enough home runs?
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  Speaker 2: I'm pulling it up here. When you have 26 home runs,
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  Speaker 2: 25 home runs, 21 home runs, 18 home runs, what
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  Speaker 2: if that's okay? Because... The most strikeouts on your team
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  Speaker 2: is 171. Like, what if that's okay? Like, maybe there's
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  Speaker 2: a threshold. It's like saying, well, I want all of this. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: then I want everything. I want every swing to be
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  Speaker 2: a homer. And I think the Brewers are right in
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  Speaker 2: that happy medium, and they also drive the ball to
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  Speaker 2: the opposite field, which drives a lot of runs in, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 5: Another reason why you should love the Brewers. You're going
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  Speaker 5: to like this one, AJ. You go, and then I'll go.
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  Speaker 4: No, and what Kratz just said, I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: you guys saw this, Ben Verlander's tweet about how teams
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  Speaker 4: hit pull-fly balls and the Brewers are the only team
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  Speaker 4: that aims the other way. Pretty awesome. Because I know
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  Speaker 4: coming up, Tom Kelly, the Twins were like, you've got
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  Speaker 4: to hit the ball the other way if you want
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  Speaker 4: to get a lot of hits. Guess who led the
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  Speaker 4: league in on-base percentage this year?
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  Speaker 3: The Brewers.
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  Speaker 4: Because they foul a lot of pitches off, they take
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  Speaker 4: their walks, they just build it bat after bat, and
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  Speaker 4: it just continues to put pressure on other teams. It's not, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to go up there and I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: swing three times as hard as I can and punch
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  Speaker 4: out and Go on to the next. It's pressure because
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  Speaker 4: I'm fouling off. Jake Bowers is their.
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  Speaker 2: Home run guy.
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  Speaker 4: We would have 10, 12 pitch at-bats. We've seen it
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  Speaker 4: in this postseason. So maybe there's something to that. Now
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  Speaker 4: teams are going to look at that and say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: maybe we should tell the guys to hit the ball
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  Speaker 4: the other way. No way. Like that doesn't work, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Jake Bowers, third in the league in on-base percentage. Third.
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  Speaker 2: No chance you would have gotten 10 guesses to pick
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  Speaker 2: where Jake Bowers was in on-base percentage in the league yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: He's been that guy since I saw him at like
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  Speaker 2: 20 or 21 playing against him in Durham with the Rays.
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  Speaker 2: He's always been an on-base guy, and now it's translating
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  Speaker 2: to the big leagues.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also the Brewers are great representations of the sport.
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  Speaker 1: They're accessible players. They have an A-plus PR team. Their
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  Speaker 1: players will chat with you all day long.
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  Speaker 2: It matters.
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  Speaker 1: It's the one thing where I feel like I can comment. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Pat Murphy, all these guys.
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  Speaker 4: You can't get their manager to stop talking to you.
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  Speaker 5: I know, but that's important.
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  Speaker 4: Vassallo, I can't believe I'm about.
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  Speaker 5: To say this. There are some in the sport. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: No, I can't believe I'm about to say this, but
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  Speaker 4: Mike Vassallo, their PR guy, he does anything. If you
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  Speaker 4: need something from him, you want something from him, he
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  Speaker 4: is all about it. except for the one time I
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  Speaker 4: asked him to get someone to slide down the slide.
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  Speaker 4: He said no because it was the playoffs. But he
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  Speaker 4: did eventually get to go down the slide. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you ask him for– I mean, he texts you. He'll
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  Speaker 4: text you the lineups early. You know, it's not for
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  Speaker 4: public consumption, so you can start prepping, right? He'll do any–
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  Speaker 4: you need a player. You need to talk to somebody.
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  Speaker 4: You may– you know, his PR staff does an unbelievable job.
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  Speaker 4: I have to give him credit. When he's not on
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  Speaker 4: Game Changer, he does a really good job.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That means he's watching his kid play ball, which we like.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, he's on game. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He's a good dad for context, for those that don't
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  Speaker 1: watch the show every day. But they are a great
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  Speaker 1: representation of the sport, and that's important. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to name names right now, maybe later, but some teams
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  Speaker 1: act like MLB is a monopoly. It's the only entertainment
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  Speaker 1: product on the planet. So they're too busy for life.
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  Speaker 1: Even sometimes a team that's in a small market and
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  Speaker 1: no one's bothering them. I'm not just talking about one team.
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  Speaker 1: There's multiple teams like this. And then there's Milwaukee and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, everyone's invited. We appreciate our fans. We appreciate
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  Speaker 1: the media that then gets the message out to the
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  Speaker 1: fans that matters too. So if you wanted a 500th
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  Speaker 1: reason why you should maybe be a Brewers fan for
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  Speaker 1: a month.
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  Speaker 5: Adopt a team, then boom, there you go.
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  Speaker 4: And also their TV and radio crew are awesome too.
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  Speaker 4: Let's not forget. I mean, you know, EA, Rock, Sophia,
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Levering, that whole crew that they have there is
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  Speaker 4: pretty awesome too. So let's not And I know the local,
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  Speaker 4: the Milwaukee people love them. So Vinny Rotino.
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  Speaker 1: They do things well out there. They've got it down.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why they are what they are right now.
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  Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, we have a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more postseason-wise to get to in terms of some trends
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  Speaker 1: that we're seeing and some upcoming trends to be alarmed about.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to that.
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  Speaker 1: And you'll be able to see those games, specifically the
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  Speaker 1: Brewers and the Dodgers continuing with their NLCS on Fox
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  Speaker 1: and the Fox one app. Start your Fox one three
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  Speaker 5: Hey, here he is. Tyler Phillips from the Marlins joining
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  Speaker 5: us right now. Good to see you, man. How is
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  Speaker 5: off season life?
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  Speaker 3: What's up, dude?
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  Speaker 5: Are you watching the playoffs?
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  Speaker 3: A little bit. My wife watches more than me trying
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  Speaker 3: to disconnect a little.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good one where you're like, Hey, I
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  Speaker 5: want to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Netflix apple whatever and she's like actually playoffs.
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  Speaker 6: Uh why why because i want to be there and
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  Speaker 6: uh i get the itch and i i almost go
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  Speaker 6: into my side yard outside and just start throwing and
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  Speaker 6: i shouldn't be throwing right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah but don't you do like i used to do
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  Speaker 4: tyler like when i watch these teams you know guys
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  Speaker 4: on certain teams and you're going man i want him
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  Speaker 4: to win but i don't want i don't really like
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  Speaker 4: that guy so i don't want him to win so
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  Speaker 4: then you're trying to figure out who you're rooting for
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  Speaker 4: because there's guys on certain teams that you're like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I like that guy, but I don't really like him.
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  Speaker 4: So then you're trying to figure out who you want
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  Speaker 4: to root for, but not really win, but also kind
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  Speaker 4: of win. It's like a weird dynamic when you're still playing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a little bit of that, but I don't,
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  Speaker 3: I don't really want anyone to win if I'm not winning.
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  Speaker 2: That's, that's it. That is it. No one to win.
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  Speaker 4: Someone's got to win.
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  Speaker 3: No, AJ.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, if I had to give you an answer,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, got my guy, Liam Hicks over there with
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  Speaker 6: the rays. Uh, I appreciate him and all the work
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  Speaker 6: he's done with me. So there's a few other guys
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  Speaker 6: over there that I know with the Rays. But like
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  Speaker 6: I said, if I'm not there, I don't really care
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  Speaker 6: that much. Honestly, my wife gets annoyed listening to me
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  Speaker 6: try to talk about what pitch is coming next based
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  Speaker 6: off of the previous one thrown.
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  Speaker 3: So I go somewhere else.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have a wristband? Do you have the wristband?
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  Speaker 3: Or do you have a pitchcom?
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  Speaker 4: Do you have a pitchcom where the guy in the
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  Speaker 4: dugout for the Marlins is going, Kyler, throw us lighter. Kyler,
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  Speaker 4: throw us lighter.
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  Speaker 3: No, no.
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  Speaker 6: I got to practice if they ever do decide to
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  Speaker 6: go away from that.
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  Speaker 3: So I like to practice on my own. That's good.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair. That's good.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, on that, while we're on unique things from the team,
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  Speaker 1: what did you think of Sandy Alcantara just now?
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  Speaker 5: Slinging some saves at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Did that have anything to do with how you guys
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  Speaker 1: do sim games between starts? And he was like, I'll
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  Speaker 1: just sim game and end the game?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there was a little bit of that.
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  Speaker 6: Towards the end of the year, you get away from
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  Speaker 6: throwing bullpens more. Arms hanging, but I guess not for him.
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  Speaker 6: Instead of throwing bullpens, he would do touch and feels,
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  Speaker 6: and then it got to the point where chances for
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  Speaker 6: us were a little slim, but Still needed to win games. And,
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: you know, we had Fairbanks go back down with some
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: injury and our bullpen was getting kind of beat up.
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: So Sandy said, hey, I'll get out there. I think
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: some of that was just a little accomplishment by himself.
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: I think getting his work in the game was helpful
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: to him. And I think he just wanted to help
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: the team win however he could.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Being not far off the injury that he was, you know,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: he had Tommy John surgery a year and a half
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: or whatever it was. How.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: How did you guys react when you saw him go
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: down to the bullpen or you heard he was going
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: to go to the bullpen? Was the first reaction like Sandy,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: like don't hurt yourself. Or was it like, dang it, Tyler,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: why am I not doing something like this?
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: Um, so if you saw how Sandy does his work
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: in between outings, you would, you would be pretty confident
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: with him going down there, especially having conversations with him. Um,
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: So I don't think it was too much of a
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: shock for us that he was going out there. Although
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: the first time he did it, I forgot that he
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: pitched the first game of a three-game set. So that
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: one made me feel a little bad because they did
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: ask me to go. But I had thrown a bullpen
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: that day. I think for a lot of us, it
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: was just, hey, you want to get your work in
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: the game and you want to help us win however
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: we could. I think the day that it was Sandy's
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: first save, they asked me if I wanted to go
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: back uh in the eighth inning and like i said
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: i just threw a bullpen that day so or the
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: day before so arm wasn't really feeling up to it
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: but we had those conversations just trying to get our
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: work in game and uh see how it went i
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: mean i know sandy did it yuri did it jansen
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: junk did it uh me and gusto we both came
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: out of the bullpen at some point throughout the year
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: so it wasn't too far-fetched for us to to do
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: it again um but i do think for me it
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: was just the workloads are different. Uh, the high stress
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: pitches out of the bullpen, especially for me, I like to,
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: I get a little animated out there. So, uh, I
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: wasn't too eager to do it, but Sandy, he was Sandy,
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: the different breed, man. They call him the caballo for
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: a reason. And that guy, he's a workhorse and he,
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: he does all his work in between outings to be
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: able to do that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Tyler, hold on before I ask you my next question. Uh,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: they asked him to do it or he told them
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: because the reports were that he had told them he
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: wanted to do this. So was it an ask or
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: was it Sandy saying, I want to do this?
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I think Sandy, Sandy wanted to do it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: He, I think we had some games where we would
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: go pretty deep through the bullpen. Um, starters would go
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: shorter and he would just go and come in. It
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: was during the D-back series. He, I remember he came
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: in and, uh, I think we had an extra inning
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: game the day before and he walked in. And so
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: I heard he, he walked in and said, Hey, I
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: want to, I want to throw it today if.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: It's a safe scenario.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: So, um, With a lot of us, there was that
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: conversation where it was like, hey, would you be up
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: to this? And they wouldn't be mad if we said
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: no or if we said yes. But Sandy, I mean,
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: he makes calls for his own career at this point.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: He's been doing it for a long time. He's earned
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: that respect.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Do you think the game's gotten too soft? We're talking
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: about a pitcher who's one of the most respected pitchers.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: He's a gamer. He throws a ton of innings. The
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: game's gotten too soft in the sense of, okay, guys,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: throw less, throw less, and we have more injuries. Do
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: you think the answer is closer to what Sandy's doing?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Not for everybody. It's not one size fits all, but
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: do you think guys need to throw more and we're
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: babying pitchers too much and getting, and they're getting hurt
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: more often once they are pushed a little bit?
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, honestly, I think you can look at it
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: from any, any perspective there. Um, I like to view
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: it from an old-school type perspective, and I know Sandy's
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: the same way. The more you throw, you acclimate your
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: arm to it. However many innings you threw the year before,
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: you try to push that limit. I like to look
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: back at the Bob Gibsons and the Pedro Martinez, guys
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: like that. They threw a ton, and they never seem
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: to get hurt as long as you take care of
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: your business in between. If you're asking about the bullpen
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: in between, I think that's just a preference.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I think in our AAA.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: I think they were experimenting with that a little bit,
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: trying to get some bullpens in game instead of doing
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: it in between two outings. It seemed like a wasted
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: pitcher where you could just put a starter out there
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: get one inning out of them granted it goes the
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: right way and you throw like a 15 pitcher less
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: inning but uh if you ask me i'd prefer to
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: just throw more just keep pushing the envelope see what
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: you can get uh listen to your body communicate with
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: your trainers communicate with the coaching staff and um Yeah,
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: I don't know if I would call it soft. I mean,
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: everybody's got their opinions. But I would like to push
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: the limit and get back to that old school style
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: of pitching where guys are going deep in the games
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: and they're going 200 innings a year. I know you
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: don't really see that very often anymore. There's a few
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: guys now that do it, but I feel like there's
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: not that.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Many guys that get over 200 at this point.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Hey Tyler, you, you pitched him the relief, right? Early
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: in the season, you were coming in, you were the
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: guy that was all crazy. We're like, man, this guy's crazy, right?
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Doing all your stuff. But then you became a starting pitcher.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: So can you explain to people the difference in prep
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: work for being a starter first being a reliever and
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: then how Sandy goes from starter back to reliever? Cause
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: it is different prep, right?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Uh, yeah.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, everyone's, everyone's different. They all
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: got their own things. Um, I guess as a reliever,
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: there's a chance that you throw every day, right? So
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: you have to have your body ready every day. And
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: that's where that communication thing comes back in where I'll
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: have my trainer with us.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: It was Victor.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: He would work with me every day and we would
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: just tap in, check in. We had this machine called
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: the newbie. It would, it would basically just scan my
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: body and see where I'm sore, see where I have
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: some muscle tightness or inflammation or whatever.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: And, Uh, that would help me get through.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: Um, from the lifting standpoint, you would be going two
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: times a week, maybe three. Uh, there'll be a little
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: bit lighter, lighter, total bodies starter, a little different. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: you have to get your conditioning in there. Um, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: that's where like creativity comes into play too. Uh, my
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: let's say me for example my knees were not feeling
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: good as the season went on and uh running was
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: not cooperating with me so hopped in our treadmill pool
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: and started doing some pool workouts trying to just stay
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: conditioned for that because you are going more than two
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: to three innings as a starter at least hopefully um
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: so yeah just to be able to withstand those longer
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: stretches of throwing you have to be conditioned for your
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: body and as a reliever you might have to throw
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: every day.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: So you don't want to be.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Sore or tired or fatigued, whatever you want to call it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: And then on the other side of that, you got
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: the mental side of the game, too, that I like
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: to take a lot of pride in. When I was
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: a reliever, yeah, you're right. I was doing the crazy bit.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: That's something I believe that worked for me as a starter.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: it might work for like two innings, but it does
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: get a little exhausting trying to just be angry and
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: whatever I was doing for, for the whole game. I
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: would still tap into things.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: I had my tool belt.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: That's what we would talk about a lot where if
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: I had to take the anger out because an outing
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: didn't feel right, I would go and get that. And
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: if I had to go back to a more level
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: headed side and focus on breathing more, we'd go into that.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: But reliever, I feel like.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's just like the fan and me are just
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: watching some, some like demons back in the day, but like,
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: I feel like you want to just have that little
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: anger to you, that little, like, it's personal. I'm coming
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: out for one inning. I'm going to, I'm going to
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: blow doors off, you know? So I think that's just
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: like the two big differences there. Um, it's just taking
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: care of your body a little bit more, uh, in
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: different ways.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Um, reliever.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: So it's a shorter stretch and starting, you got five
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: days to prepare for it. So you have to have
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: your routine set pretty strong.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: When you run in the treadmill pool, do you have
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: duckies or do you have floaties on your arms just
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in case?
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: Um, I actually had a, I had an exercise band
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: around my waist and, uh, Victor, my trainer was holding
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: it behind me. So I couldn't go forward. Uh, we'd
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: have the jets going. So I would just be going
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: through all the, all the different strokes that I could
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: think of. And then I would do a couple of
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: breath holds underwater and, uh, I would try to push
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: the limit. I think the longest I held my breath
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: was a minute and 47 seconds.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: That was my record.
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: So I was trying to get the two minutes, just
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: see how fast I can get the heart rate down
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: and see how fast I can catch my breath, but
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: not huffing and puffing because, you know.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: On the mound, it doesn't seem like a lot of work,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: but it is a lot of work.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: And when you have to cover first and then get
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: back on the mound, you got 12 seconds to throw
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: a pitch and you're waiting for your catcher to call
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: the pitch.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you might not catch your breath.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: All right. You're a competitive guy. Confirmed?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Okay. MLB proposed... picking your own opponent for the playoffs
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: after the higher seed gets to pick who they want
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: to play. You like, you don't like, what's the positive
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and negative that you see happening? Because we said we
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: wanted that smoke because it could create a lot of
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: intrigue and storytelling.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see that pop up on my phone
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: one day. Yeah, I.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: Mean... Eventually, if you're going deep in the playoffs, you're
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: going to have to play one of those higher seed
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: teams anyway.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: So do I necessarily think it makes that much of
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: a difference? I'm not sure.
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to sit here and say I don't
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: like it. But yeah, I mean, I do see that
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: how that could be a little intriguing. If like a
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: lower market team comes in or a team that doesn't
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: necessarily have the best record. But, you know, I've seen
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: guys talk about it like, regular season is regular season
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: and you get to the playoffs it's it's completely different
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: like it's just getting there is what matters and uh
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: baseball becomes a whole different animal in that moment i've
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: never been there um honestly i don't there's only a
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: handful of guys on my team right now that have
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: been there and uh they could attest to that more
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: than me but um you know it might not be
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: bad to just get the tough one out of the
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: way you know like maybe it goes your way maybe
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: it doesn't but I don't really know how to answer
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: that one. I saw that pop up.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: Eventually, you're going to have to play that team if
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: you're going that deep into the playoffs anyway.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Tyler, you want all that smoke, by the way. Pick
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: the team. You get to start. They pick you. Let's
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: say the Dodgers are like, we want to play the Marlins.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: You guys beat them. You know you'd be talking some trash.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: It's fine. It's human nature. By the way, also, Talk
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: about guys being out of shape. I'm going to teach
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: you a trick that I learned this year from watching
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: a team that's still alive. There's a guy that pitches
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: the ninth inning for one of these two teams. He
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: runs in from the bullpen. He's huffing and puffing. Every
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: time he gets out of breath, he has to cover first.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: He changes like four balls. Watch. I'm not going to
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: say his name. He might have the same first name
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: as you. But every time he runs in, like from
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: the bull, he like stops and he gets checked from
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: the umpire. And he's like, please check me longer.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: And then if he has to cover first, watch tonight
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: in the game. if he has to get checked at first,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Contreras will throw like four balls out. The pitcher will
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: be like, Oh man, this ball. So note to self
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: and resets the clock when you throw the ball out.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: So just so you know, if you're out of breath,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: just timeout. I need to throw the ball out.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: I have witnessed that one firsthand. People have told me
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: that I just, it never, it never comes into my
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: head because I, I just want to go, go, go.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: You know, when I'm on the mound, like I'm, I'll
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: have something in my head or like a good cue,
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: a good feel that I'm, that I'm dealing with on
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: that day. And I don't want to take a break
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: or maybe I like the ball or something. I'm like, man,
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: I really like this one, but actually.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: That's not true. Cause I don't really like a lot
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: of the balls these days, but.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Sorry, by the way, I got the name wrong.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I apologize.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: They have, there's a brothers, there's two brothers. You'll figure
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: it out.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: There are brothers.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: It's Trevor, not Tyler.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: I apologize. But, yes, you knew who I was talking about,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: so I apologize.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I knew. I've seen him do it. I've seen him
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: do it. Yes, it's so awesome.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: You do what you got to do.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: He comes in, and I think he does have a
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: little bit of a breathing asthma kind of thing, so
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: he does have an inhaler, but it's so awesome. If
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: you watch him pitch, if he gets in the ninth
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: inning tonight, just watch how many balls he throws out.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Especially if he has to back up a base or covering,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: it is awesome. It is like the best move ever.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: And Contreras is like– Contreras would be like– And Catriona's
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: going to be like, let me waste a couple seconds. Oh,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: let me get a new ball.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Dude, it's tiring covering first. I know it's not that hard,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: but if you're working hard, you get over there. Maybe
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: it's someone fast on the base. It's usually someone.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Fast on the base, Matt.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: Like the power hitters, they're just going to do the
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: nice little trot. But usually I'll get some guy who's
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: just like– like look at Chandler Simpson, for example.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: That'll be like the guy that I got to cover on.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, no. You got to get over there quick, man.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's an all-out sprint to beat him if
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you're going to get there. That's the dude who gets
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the most infield hits. Well, Tyler, it was fun, man.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Thanks for stopping by. I hope you enjoy the rest
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: of the offseason here and you get the right dose
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: of playoff watching, right? That makes the significant other happy
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: but also doesn't make you want to run through the wall.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: You get that balance that you need.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: I'm going to end up having to hop on MLB
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: The Show or something with my boy and just run
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: a little co-op World Series.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: I got to get my baseball itch, and I can't
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: watch it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: That's what people love, though. People love to hear that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Pound Territory.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Pound Territory. One to three every day.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow, we're on four to six, so you can watch us.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he needs the adrenaline rush, though, right?
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I'll probably be making dinner.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah there you go um well good stuff dude
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: appreciate the time we'll talk
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Soon okay all right appreciate you guys