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The Most Explosive Political Clash of the Year | Episode 248 · V

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  Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome to this Wednesday edition of Vince. I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: you today. The Save America Act finally gets the Senate
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  Speaker 1: debate that we've all been demanding as the United States
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  Speaker 1: senators take to the floor, make their case yesterday for
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  Speaker 1: the first day of why we need it so badly. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Democrats take to the floor to demonize the whole thing
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  Speaker 1: And they've, they're coming up with a bunch of ludicrous
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  Speaker 1: explanations as to why we don't need election integrity. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get into the details there. And we'll take a close
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  Speaker 1: look specifically at what leadership are saying. John Thune, kind
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  Speaker 1: of trying to, you can tell what's happening here. They're
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  Speaker 1: trying to do a little bit of like placating, a
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  Speaker 1: little head padding going on, little like, oh, see, we
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  Speaker 1: gave it a debate. Yeah, we want more than that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and why the pressure needs to
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  Speaker 1: stay on at this very moment for the Save America Act.
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  Speaker 1: We'll We'll discuss that. Also, some election results overnight. A
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  Speaker 1: couple of primary and special elections completed across the country
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  Speaker 1: with some very interesting dynamics built in. We'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that in just a moment. It's all ahead on this
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  Speaker 1: overnight and that includes in Illinois. You see there's a
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  Speaker 1: Kind of a fun headline. Axios has up this morning.
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  Speaker 1: They said the squad got wiped out overnight. Now, it's
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  Speaker 1: not the squad that you typically think of. This is
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  Speaker 1: the bench for the squad. So if you think the
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  Speaker 1: squad sucks, you should see the bench. It's outrageous. This
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  Speaker 1: is what Axios reports this morning. The squad left suffers
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  Speaker 1: complete wipeout in Illinois. This was the primary phase for them.
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  Speaker 1: The left, these are the craziest lefties, all defeated immediately.
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  Speaker 1: in Illinois, which is a crazy Democrat-run state, last night,
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  Speaker 1: and they say, it's a bad sign for dozens of
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  Speaker 1: insurgent Democrats running in congressional races across the country, both
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  Speaker 1: in open seats and as primary rivals to older or
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  Speaker 1: more establishment-oriented incumbents. So you can read this one of
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  Speaker 1: two ways, and I'll perhaps read it as a hybrid
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  Speaker 1: of both. One, it's that even on the left, There
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  Speaker 1: are voters who are done with that shit, as you
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  Speaker 1: might hear Pete Hegseth say. They don't like the most
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  Speaker 1: radical garbage, the kind of like just the pro-terrorist stuff,
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  Speaker 1: the crazy boys can become girls stuff, the open border stuff.
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  Speaker 1: There are lefties who are just completely done with it.
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  Speaker 1: But they haven't yet come to this full realization that
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  Speaker 1: it's not just the declared radicals. It's the undeclared radicals
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  Speaker 1: that are the problem in their party, the guys who
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  Speaker 1: pretend to be moderates. That whole party is infected with radicalism,
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  Speaker 1: whether they're saying it out loud or not. So you
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  Speaker 1: can read it that way. The other way you can
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  Speaker 1: read it is that the establishment is prevailing in defeating
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  Speaker 1: some of its upstarts. What's happening here is the Barack Obama,
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  Speaker 1: Hakeem Jeffries wing of the party, they're trying to crush
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  Speaker 1: any of the guys who might upset their establishment stranglehold
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  Speaker 1: on the party. So when there's all this chatter going
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  Speaker 1: on on the internet, and don't I wouldn't use the
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  Speaker 1: internet as your litmus test for, what do Americans care about?
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  Speaker 1: What are they all talking about? When there's all this
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  Speaker 1: chatter on the internet that, oh, the right is fighting,
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  Speaker 1: the right is fighting, the left's at war with itself.
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  Speaker 1: And we just saw a bunch of these upstarts get whacked, defeated,
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  Speaker 1: politically whacked, in Illinois last night, which is a kind
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  Speaker 1: of a fun story. So keep your eyes on stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. And among the people who just lost last
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  Speaker 1: night is one of our favorites, Kat Abagabagabaga, Abuga, Abuga,
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  Speaker 1: what is it? Cat, hold up. How do we, Cat Abuga, oh, Cat, okay, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Catabuga Bugabuga just lost last night in Illinois. Now, you
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  Speaker 1: will probably remember Catabuga Bugabuga was the chick who got
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  Speaker 1: her ass thrown on the ground by the cops as
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  Speaker 1: she was impeding federal immigration enforcement, impeding federal immigration enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember this moment? Take a look. Here she is.
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  Speaker 1: She's mid-throw. I was just playing it before the show
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  Speaker 1: for the guys. I was like, you guys remember this?
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  Speaker 1: Here she is. Oh, oh, oh. There she is, throwing
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  Speaker 1: on her ass. Holy cow. Look at, oh, here comes
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  Speaker 1: the boom. Here comes the boom. Here comes the boom. Boom.
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  Speaker 1: She got thrown. And the reason she got thrown is
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  Speaker 1: because she was impeding law enforcement. And you remember what
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  Speaker 1: happened after that? They indicted her. They indicted her. So
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  Speaker 1: she loses last night. But the one thing she didn't lose,
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  Speaker 1: and this is words of encouragement for you, Kat. The
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  Speaker 1: one thing you didn't lose is the ongoing federal criminal
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  Speaker 1: indictment that you signed up for when you started impeding
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement. So that's her fate. She hasn't had a
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  Speaker 1: good year. She's had a She's had a very rough year.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, what did I find this morning? I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to share this with you. Oh, this is her concession speech.
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  Speaker 1: She was giving it last night. She's upset, of course,
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  Speaker 1: that she lost, and she went out to talk to
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  Speaker 1: her comrades. Here she is last night taking the stage,
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  Speaker 1: concession speech.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard, but.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't win. And it really fucking sucks.
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  Speaker 1: We came really close.
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  Speaker 4: And it sucks.
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  Speaker 1: But it's something that no one in power even expected
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  Speaker 1: would be possible at all. Really fucking sucks that we win.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you lost.
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  Speaker 1: You know where she came from? That shit came from,
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  Speaker 1: in the speech, she goes on, she was like, we
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  Speaker 1: got to fight big money. We got to stop all
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  Speaker 1: the big money influences. You know where she came from?
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  Speaker 1: She came from Media Matters. You know where Media Matters
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  Speaker 1: got its money from? George Soros. She's a part of
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  Speaker 1: this gigantic left-wing billionaire operation. And she's like, coming out,
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  Speaker 1: she's like, got to fight the man. We got to
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  Speaker 1: fight the power. We got to fight all this big
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  Speaker 1: money that's interfering in elections. When she's, you know, you know, catabugga, bugabugga. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that's what happened to her. So I know you were
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  Speaker 1: waiting for an update on that lady's career. We don't
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  Speaker 1: have the full update on her criminal conviction yet. When
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  Speaker 1: that arrives, we'll let you know. That's Kat. In Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: we got an update as well. This is kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 1: In Virginia, there was a House of Delegates race last night.
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  Speaker 1: to replace a man who had passed away. And so it's, again,
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  Speaker 1: it's a small, it's a state legislative race. It's not
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  Speaker 1: the whole country, but it is kind of interesting because
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  Speaker 1: I want you to remember what's happening in Virginia right now.
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  Speaker 1: If you're in Virginia, you likely know this. If you don't,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you for the first time, get out and
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  Speaker 1: vote right now. There's a special election going on, a
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  Speaker 1: ballot referendum to decide whether or not the state of
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  Speaker 1: Virginia gets rigged entirely. At the moment, Democrats control six
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  Speaker 1: congressional seats in Virginia. and to the Republicans five. What
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to do is steal four of them. Democrats
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  Speaker 1: are right now. And Obama, there he is again, Barack Obama, Mr. Establishment.
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  Speaker 1: Obama is running advertising all over the Commonwealth of Virginia.
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  Speaker 1: So if you turn on television or if you go
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  Speaker 1: on the internet, you watch a random video. Any Virginians
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  Speaker 1: in the chat? Are you tired of seeing Obama? Obama's everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: The left is spending ridiculous amounts of money to put
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  Speaker 1: his goofy mug in front of our eyeballs. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a total disaster. And so what they're trying to do
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  Speaker 1: is rig the whole House of Representatives. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Furry Thor voted no in Virginia. Patriot Pub is in Virginia.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So what we've got going on is this this referendum.
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  Speaker 1: Go to the polls. Vote no. Find your polling place.
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  Speaker 6: Go online.
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  Speaker 1: Vote no. And don't just find your polling place. Tell
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  Speaker 1: everybody else you know where the polling places are. Post
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  Speaker 1: it to social media. Post it online. Hey, this is
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  Speaker 1: how you find your polling place. Go and vote no, Virginia. Please, please.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're not in Virginia, this is definitely how
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  Speaker 1: you can help. Post that to social media. Just post that.
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  Speaker 1: Just share the information about where to find your polling place.
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  Speaker 1: In Virginia, it's right there online. You can find that.
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  Speaker 1: And then people can go vote no. You've got to
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  Speaker 1: stop this election rigging operation because if the left gets
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  Speaker 1: its way, it will steal the entire House of Representatives
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  Speaker 1: this way. They want to steal four congressional seats like that.
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  Speaker 1: They've already got Democrats in the state who've laid claim
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  Speaker 1: to it. Like it's calling shotgun walking across the parking lot.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, shotgun. I got that new district. No,
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  Speaker 1: you don't get that at all. Not if Virginians vote
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  Speaker 1: the right way. If you vote no, we can stop
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  Speaker 1: this thing. It's got to be done right now. So
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  Speaker 1: I say all that to say that Republican voters in
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  Speaker 1: the state, we've seen some early indications that Republicans are
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  Speaker 1: very energized by this. Democrats, they have to spend a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of money to drag their lazy asses to the
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  Speaker 1: polls just to get them to rig the election. But Republicans,
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  Speaker 1: Republicans seem activated. The early vote shows that much of
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  Speaker 1: Western Virginia, this is a Republican dominated country, is showing
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  Speaker 1: up early to vote in big numbers. And those numbers continue.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll see if it holds all the way through
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  Speaker 1: April 21st. That's the end of this election. But for now,
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  Speaker 1: Republicans are showing up. And we got a result yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Virginia House of Delegates, District 98, special election. Check this out.
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  Speaker 1: New York Times with the tabulation here, but look at this.
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  Speaker 1: The Republican wins the district with 62.5% of the vote. 62.5%
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  Speaker 1: of the vote. To the Democrat, Cheryl Smith, 37.5%. This
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  Speaker 1: is Virginia House of Delegates District. 98. Now, you're, of course,
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  Speaker 1: wondering to what extent is what is this and was
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  Speaker 1: this a Republican district to begin with? Well, in 2024,
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  Speaker 1: that district went to Trump by 15 points, by 15 points.
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  Speaker 1: And in 2024, the district went to win some Sears,
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  Speaker 1: the Republican candidate for governor at the time, by just
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  Speaker 1: seven points. So 15 points. Seven points. Now, wait a second.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at this New York Times result here, 38%
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  Speaker 1: to 62%. This is a huge margin. This is a
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  Speaker 1: massive margin. So what's happened right now is Republicans are dramatic. Well,
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  Speaker 1: at least last night, they've dramatically overperformed in this district. Now,
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  Speaker 1: is it a sign for the whole state? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not. But you know how these things go. If
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  Speaker 1: a Democrat overperforms anywhere, It's turned into some big litmus
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  Speaker 1: test by the media. Oh, it's a bellwether. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to tell us what's going to happen in every election
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  Speaker 1: going forward.
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  Speaker 4: OK, fine.
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  Speaker 1: Turnabout's fair play. Look at this dramatic turnout by Republicans
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  Speaker 1: in this special election. And it's going to be very interesting, very,
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  Speaker 1: very interesting to see what happens in Virginia. Come on.
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  Speaker 1: Stay in the fight. Stay in the fight. Vote like
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  Speaker 1: your country depends on it, because it does. Virginia, we
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  Speaker 1: really do depend on you right now to vote no
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  Speaker 1: on this. And don't fall for that ballot language. The
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  Speaker 1: language says it's to restore fairness to elections. It's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's to steal them. That's actually the plan. That's actually
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  Speaker 1: the plan.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up on the program, we've got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: big elements to get to here. We're about to jump
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  Speaker 1: into the Save America debate. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Save America Act debate, where things stand right now,
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  Speaker 1: because these senators take the floor yesterday. This is not
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  Speaker 1: the never-ending filibuster we were demanding, but it's It's something.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're taking the floor. Again, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: this is clearly, as you and I have been discussing,
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  Speaker 1: as I've alerted the country from the very beginning, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of this is performance art in an effort to
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  Speaker 1: try and tamp down voter energy to get the Save
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  Speaker 1: America Act through. But I'm telling you right now, I
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  Speaker 1: don't care what they think this is. Let's make them
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  Speaker 1: as uncomfortable as possible until they pass it. Just keep
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  Speaker 1: the pressure on. I don't care. Keep the pressure on.
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  Speaker 1: But coming up here on the program... We will have
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  Speaker 1: the good fortune of being joined by one of the
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  Speaker 1: leading experts on the Senate rules. That's Rachel Bovard. We
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  Speaker 1: get an update from her. She's the woman who told
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  Speaker 1: us last year that, hey, Vince, you realize that all
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  Speaker 1: they need is a simple majority in the Senate and
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  Speaker 1: they can pass stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they can. They don't like talking about it, but
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  Speaker 1: they can do it with a simple majority and they
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  Speaker 1: don't need any rule changes. Yeah, Rachel was the one
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  Speaker 1: who was telling us all about this. And Rachel joins
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  Speaker 1: us again here on the program today as the Senate
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  Speaker 1: begins engaging in this debate. And I want Rachel to litigate,
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  Speaker 1: especially John Thune's behaviors, attitudes, and what's possible here and
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  Speaker 1: get a take from her. So we'll talk to Rachel
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  Speaker 1: in just a moment about that. Oh, and that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Carnage 25 is correct. We are in the
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  Speaker 1: midst of the Save America Act meeting. Obviously, producer Jim
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  Speaker 1: is keeping the minutes. And with that in mind, we
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  Speaker 1: gavel in. We always gavel in. Thank you very much, Carnage.
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  Speaker 1: You can't forget the gavel. That's how you know it's official.
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  Speaker 1: We get the gavel. OK, so we've gaveled in, which
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  Speaker 1: means we should probably start with the president of the
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  Speaker 1: United States. Here he is. Cut one last night.
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  Speaker 3: The biggest thing coming up is a Save America Act
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  Speaker 3: in the Senate.
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  Speaker 1: That's voter I.D.
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  Speaker 3: And proof of citizenship and no mail in ballots, you know,
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  Speaker 3: corrupt mail in ballots. We're the only country in the
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  Speaker 3: world that does it that way. Corrupt as hell. And
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  Speaker 3: then we added two more. We're going to be— I
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  Speaker 3: think they're going to be adding a couple of more.
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  Speaker 3: One is no men in women's sports. That seems like
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  Speaker 3: an easy one. I believe that's 99 percent. And no
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  Speaker 3: transgender mutilization of our children.
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  Speaker 2: None.
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  Speaker 3: That's only polling at 98 percent, Speaker. So hopefully the
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  Speaker 3: Senate is going to be able to get that. You
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  Speaker 3: can't ask for five. better things, I think, in terms of...
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  Speaker 3: And it's not politics. It's really good for.
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  Speaker 4: It's so good for our nation.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, who would not have voter ID? Who would
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  Speaker 3: not have proof of citizenship? And the only people who
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  Speaker 3: would want not to have that are people that want
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  Speaker 3: to cheat. It's very, very simple. We can't let that happen.
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  Speaker 1: Cheaters. He's right about that. So the Senate, what did
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  Speaker 1: they do last night? They started debate. It was a
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  Speaker 1: vote that didn't require J.D.
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  Speaker 3: Vance.
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  Speaker 2: J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance, the Vice President of the United States, was on standby,
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  Speaker 1: prepared to go to the Senate, prepared to cast the
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  Speaker 1: tie-breaking vote just to get all of this started. And
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  Speaker 1: we didn't need him yesterday. Now, if we had this
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  Speaker 1: vote tally to use the speaking filibuster to get this
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  Speaker 1: thing passed, we could pass it now. We could pass it,
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  Speaker 1: or at least we could initiate the filibuster and pass it.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't. At the very least, we have this
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  Speaker 1: vote tally to begin debate. Here it is, 51-48. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the Senate beginning debate yesterday. Cut to, watch.
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  Speaker 8: On this vote, the yeas are 51, the nays are 48.
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  Speaker 1: The motion is agreed to. 51-48, we begin debate on
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the Save America Act. Now, if you're doing the math
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: at home, 51-48, it feels like something might be missing there. Yeah,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: something's missing. First of all, Lisa Murkowski voted no. So
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: we lose a vote there. Murkowski voted no, because she's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: a whack job. I mean, this is the craziest. Vote no?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And then Tham Tillis, who claims, he's a co-sponsor of
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the Save America Act. He claims he supports it. You
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: know Tham missed the vote yesterday? Tham wasn't even there
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to vote for this yesterday. What are you even doing?
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Just leave. Just leave, please. You're useless. The guy doesn't
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: even show up. So Tom Tillis misses the vote yesterday.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Lisa Murkowski votes no. But debate begins 51-48. And the
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: debate truly begun. You got a number of people presenting yesterday,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats. I'm going to give you a sampling
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: of both. Some of the Republicans were mighty. All of
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the Democrats were ridiculous. We'll get to that. And then
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Rachel Bovard is just minutes away. We've got to talk
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to her about what John Thune is up to here,
• 18:30
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• 18:32
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some of the debate last night.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Marsha Blackburn. She went among the first Republican senators
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: to speak out here. And she goes, look, all Democrats
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: want is to suck up to illegals at the expense
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: of Americans. Take a look.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: The Save America Act, which I'm delighted that we are
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: finally on this bill. This is another area where we
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: are watching the Democrats come full display of their loyalty
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: to illegal aliens that are in this country. I mean,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: they are on it. Give them a choice between protecting
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: the rule of law and protecting U.S.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Citizens.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: They're going to choose somebody illegally in the country every
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: single time.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: That is really a disappointment.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, Josh. I think I'll cut off there.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: That's a perfect expression of what's happening here. The only
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: reason Democrats are opposed to this is they're more interested
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: in protecting illegals at every level, even if they're not voting.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Meaning the illegals were just here and being used for bodies.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: They're being used for electoral advantage for Democrats in order
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: to pad the numbers for the Electoral College. And for
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: congressional districts across the country, Democrats are very comfortable creating
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: an environment where people are not following the law at scale.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: And we have a massive invasion going on. And they're
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: not really that concerned about the consequences of it for
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the rest of us because they derive electoral power from it.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: So Marsha Blackburn, right to call that out. Now, Democrats
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: are going absolutely ape about this. And Chuck Schumer, because
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: he's their leader and also because he's ridiculous, is a
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: great expression of this. Here's Chuck Schumer saying, stepping up
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: yesterday and saying that Americans are going to be stopped
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: from voting. This is a part of many ludicrous allegations
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that Democrats are making right now, just kicking dirt up
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: in the air. It's a wrap-up smear, as Nancy Pelosi
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: might say. Here's Chuck Schumer yesterday.
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: If MAGA Republicans want to bog down the Senate over
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: a debate on voter suppression, Democrats are ready. We're ready
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: to be here all day, all night, as long as
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: it takes to ensure the powers of voter suppression do
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: not win the day. Let me be very clear, the
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: SAVE Act is not a voter ID bill. It is
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: in every sense a voter suppression bill. It could purge
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: millions of American citizens from the voter rolls through a
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: screening algorithm designed by Elon Musk's Doge Squad. It could
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: disenfranchise over 20 million Americans. It would kill online voter registration.
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: It would kill online vote by mail. I mean, it
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: would kill vote by mail. It would kill motor voter registration.
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: What does any of that have to do with election security?
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: It doesn't. It's a naked attempt to rig our elections.
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: The SAVE Act also rejects the most common forms of
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: ID for anyone trying to register.
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So basically, he's saying, look, all these Americans are going
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to be ejected. Everyone's going to be able to vote.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: You're going to be prevented. It's voter suppression. And then
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you hear the invocation of the word Elon Musk. Elon Musk,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to be clear, is another one of these guys like
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: President Trump, who the radical left absolutely loathes. There are actual,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: according to a member polling out of Rutgers University, up
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to half of of all Democrats in our country, according
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: to the survey, say they could justify the assassination of
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Elon Musk. That's how angry they are at him. There's
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: an assassination culture around him and President Trump. So it's
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: pretty gross. So he brings up Elon Musk as a
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: way to be like, see, this is evil. This is
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: evil stuff. And he's upset that we would catch illegal.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: This is really what's happening. He's upset that we'd catch
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: illegals on the voter rolls. How would that happen? Well,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I wanna remind people, you know, SAVE Act, When we
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: look at the word save, there's a really useful application
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: for the word save. It's what DHS does. You know
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: about this? The Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements Program, SAVE,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and it's a combo operation between DHS, U.S. Citizenship and
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Immigration Services, and their verification division. And what they do
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: is they administer the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements Program.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: It's an online intergovernmental service designed to help federal, state, territorial, tribal,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: local government agencies, benefit-granting agencies, other authorized entities, and licensing bureaus,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: as authorized by law, determine citizenship and immigration status of
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: individuals within their jurisdiction for the purpose of granting benefits, licenses,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: as well as other lawful purposes. In other words, the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: federal government has the means— If we pass the Save
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: America Act, we have the means to look at voter
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: rolls and eject anybody who's not a citizen. So among
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the many lies that the left are telling right now
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: about the Save America Act is this idea that like, oh, well,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: you'd be, everyone would have to re-register to vote. You'd
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: be kicked off the voting rolls. Americans would be taken off. No,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: none of that is true. The only people that would
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: be kicked off the voting rolls are non-citizens who shouldn't
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: be on the voting rolls to begin with. So what
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you're watching right now is a flurry of lies that
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Democrats are trying to wield in this debate. Here's another one.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Cut five. Another Democrat saying, oh, student IDs. You won't
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: be able to use a student ID to vote. Well,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: no kidding. How do you think the student got the ID?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: By showing a state ID, you idiot. Watch this.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: That is not the half of it. Just consider all
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: the people who will face new challenges just to vote.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: for no good reason. If you are a student who
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: just moved to Stark College, Republicans will make it harder
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: for you to vote. Because if this bill passes, you
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: will need to show a photo ID and proof of
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: citizenship in every single state. But a student ID won't count.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Many tribal IDs also won't be enough under the new
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Republican restrictions.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Now, she's, of course, glossing over a bunch of distinctions.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Here's a big one. The proof of citizenship is required
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: to register to vote. That's the point at which you
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: would have to provide proof of citizenship. And they're trying
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: to just ignore all of this. When it comes to
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: actually voting, you have to show proof. Your ID, your
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: photo ID. These are simple requirements. Americans support it broadly.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Patty Murray wants to lie to you about what the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: circumstances are. And my key advice is don't fall for it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: One more thing on why the Democrats are being so
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: ludicrous here. The idea that they're the ones who are
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: standing up for married women, they claim, oh, married women
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: are going to be impeded from voting. They're not. American
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: citizens are going to be fine in all of this.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: But this idea that they care about married women, ridiculous.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Married women vote for Republicans. Democrats aren't fighting to make
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: sure Republican voters have access to the polls. They don't
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: even want you to have the candidates you want on
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the ballot. They've been trying to keep Trump off the
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: ballot in Maine and Colorado. They tried to keep RFK Jr.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: off the ballot when he was running in the Democrat primary.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Obama's constantly throwing primary candidates out of the race in
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: order to clear the path for his preferred candidate. They
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: rigged the elections against Bernie Sanders. They're not that worried
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: about voter access. to support other candidates other than the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: establishment picks in the Democrat Party. Married women. Oh, what
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: if married women can't vote? Democrats would love that. Married
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: women are a problem for Democrats. And then finally, for
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: voter registration nationally, you understand something about Democrats? In 2024,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: they stopped their voter registration campaigns. Did you know that?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: You remember the old school, like, like, vote or die
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and true the vote and everyone needs to vote and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: all that stuff? You understand they gave that up in 2024?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: You know why? Because among eligible Americans who are not
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: yet registered to vote, huge numbers of them, it's almost
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a 50-50 split now, are Trump voters. Democrats are scared
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that if they register more people to vote, that they're
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: going to be Republican voters. They're not eager to register
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: more people. That's the last thing they want. They're perfectly
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: comfortable with the opaque corrupt system that they have now.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And that's what they're trying to protect.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: More ahead on the program. We'll get Rachel Bovard's reaction
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: here in just a moment to what exactly is going on.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: What is this Senate procedure that they're using? And what
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: is John Thune up to? Rachel will give us the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: latest on all of this in just a moment here
• 28:55
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  Speaker 1: And incomparable, Rachel Bovar, the vice president of programs at
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me. Glad to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so what did we witness last night? 51 Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: Lisa Murkowski votes no. Tom Tillis forgets to show up
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  Speaker 1: to the vote. But 51 Republicans. to get this thing started,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: why can't we have 51 Republicans vote to get it passed?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Well, we asked John Thune to start the process and
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: he did. That is what we saw yesterday. And I
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: will give him some credit. There was some discussion prior
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: to this move of, we'll just introduce a new bill
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: and we'll proceed to that. Well, that would have required
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: a filibuster. That would have required breaking a filibuster. So
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: he chose to use the House message, which is a
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: privileged motion to proceed. So you saw them get on
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: it with only 51 votes. To your point, Senator Mitch
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: McConnell voted yes, even though he opposes the bill. Tom
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Tillis took a walk. Lisa Murkowski voted no. So this
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: is where we are. So the Senate is what we
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: call on the bill. The Senate is now debating the legislation. Now,
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: as soon as the Senate got on the bill, you
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: saw John Thune go to the floor and fill the
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: amendment tree. And this was a tactical decision that he
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: made because, you know, as we've discussed prior, the big
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: objection to the strategy was Republicans didn't want to have
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: to vote on Democratic amendments. They didn't think, you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: when John Thune says we don't have 51 votes for
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: the talking filibuster, what he really means is we do
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: not have 51 votes in the Republican side to table
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: or kill. all the Democratic amendments.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: So can I ask you, can I ask you for
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit of clarity on this? Because we use
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: this phrase and a lot of people in Washington will
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: use like, oh, the amendment tree, like we all know
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: exactly what we're talking about.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I actually don't. Is this like a like a March
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Madness bracket? Like there's only like a certain number of
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: slots available. And so is that what happened? John Thune
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: just filled the available slots and there's just no room
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: for Democrat amendments. Is that how it works?
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly right. And I actually just put up
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: on my X account a visual representation of of what
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: filling the amendment tree looks like, if that helps people,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: because it can be a hard thing to understand. So
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: if you want to see what it looks like, I
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: just put that video up. But yes, you're exactly right.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: There's only a certain number of amendments that can be
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: pending before the Senate at one time. The amendment tree
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: is what's supposed to keep it organized. And so by
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: filling the amendment tree, there's only a certain number of
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: slots available. John Thune basically blocked Democrats from being able
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: to offer any amendments. So he filled that that amendment
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: tree with the changes that Donald Trump has proposed to
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: the bill. So banning trans surgeries on minors. the stuff
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: on mail-in balloting, protecting girls' sports from mail participation, things
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: like that. So all those things are in the amendment tree.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So these things that President Trump has been suggesting, I've
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: been receiving a lot of questions in the last 24
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: hours about this because people keep asking, well, wait a second, Vince,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: if we add extra stuff to the bill, doesn't that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: just increase the chances that it'll get voted down? So
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: like if you add the transgender issues, which by the way,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: are even more wildly popular than the photo ID requirements.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, yeah, of course you shouldn't mutilate children. But
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the polling on this is really clear. But a legitimate
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: question I keep receiving is like, hey, doesn't this make
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the bill a little bit more cumbersome? Can't we just
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: keep it really, really narrowly focused? But there's an advantage.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: There's a tactical advantage you're explaining to having some other
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: options here for the amendment tree. And this prevents Democrats
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: from muddying up the process even more.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: That's right. And, you know, the president wants these things
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: considered by the Senate, just putting them in the amendment
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: tree doesn't mean they will automatically be added to the bill.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Each amendment has to be considered on its merits. There's
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: a question of whether Thune will invoke cloture on the
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: amendments themselves. Because remember, cloture is not just for the bill,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: it's for any debatable question and amendments are in that category.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: So we don't know what will happen with those amendments
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day. And that's kind of
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: the beauty of this process. This is the Senate in deliberation.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: This is the.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Majesty of the Senate.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: You literally don't know how things will end because that's
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: what deliberation looks like. And I will say, even with
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: the amendment tree filled, this is the most open that
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: the Senate floor has been in maybe a decade. And
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: that's telling you something. So I will give, you know,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: we don't know how this process will end. We really
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: hope Republicans take it seriously, but I will give John
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Thune some credit in that we have literally not seen
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: this in a decade.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. So what are we seeing? We're not seeing a
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: never-ending filibuster, a never-ending debate on the floor. In fact,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: they adjourned last night shortly before midnight. They get back
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: going again today around midday. What is this process that
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: we're witnessing?
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: So it's not a true talking filibuster in the sense that,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: you know, we are grinding Democrats down to try to
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: pass the bill. And if they're not speaking, he can
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: put the question. Because he's decided to fill the amendment tree,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: we are in a situation where He can require Democrats
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: to speak before the amendments are voted on, but he
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: never really will get to the bill because he never,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: the goal here is to block Democrats. So you can't
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: actually take any amendments out of the tree. What we
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: are in is a wear them out situation. What we
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: are in is a let's punish them for their obstruction decision.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Let's force the Senate to work on this bill. What
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: you hope to see at this point is Republicans taking
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: this exercise very seriously. That will look like is attention to.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Floor, Right.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Being on the floor, you know, trying to vote through
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: some of these amendments. But also what you hope to
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: see is this an actual negotiation take place. What we've
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: never tried this on this bill.
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: When the Senate tries to pass major legislation, they don't just,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: you know, file cloture. And if they don't get it,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: they move on. They actually engage Democrats and they say,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: what would it take for you to pass this bill?
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: They maybe do have a cloture vote at the end
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: of it. And if it fails, they say, OK, well,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: now we know where the votes are on the Democratic side.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Let's try to go engage them and do this again.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I will give you an example. In 2019, when Mitch
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: McConnell was leader, he had a Middle East security bill
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: that he really wanted to pass. It failed on cloture
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: three times. He kept bringing it up and bringing it
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: up and bringing it up and saying to Democrats, what
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: do I have to do to get you to vote
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: for this? On the fourth cloture vote, he got them
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: because he negotiated. He made those deals. When the Senate
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: wants to do something, it makes time for it. And
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: that's what we expect to see here. We don't expect
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: at the end of this process a failed cloture vote
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: to be the end. So I'm sure there's some Republicans
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: that want it to be then, but we should not expect.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: OK, so that first of all, that's a very useful
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: and I shouldn't blow past a very useful detail that
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: a single cloture vote is not the end of this fight.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: If John Thune wants to keep the fight going, he
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: can and they can have cloture vote after cloture vote
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: after cloture vote until they get to 60. Is that
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: what you're saying? Sixty.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Because remember, as a technical matter, cloture does not kill
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: the bill.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: The bill remains the pending business. And even if he
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: moves off something else, like let's say a DHS deal
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: pops in the middle of this and he's like, guys,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: we need to go do that. He will move off
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: the bill. Yeah, well, the bill will go back to
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: the calendar. He can proceed to it again. So the
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: way he handles this, I think, will tell us a
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: lot about what the Senate intends.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: The word cloture means that what you're doing is you're
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: ending debate and advancing to the actual vote, right?
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: So it breaks the filibuster, right? So simply failing to
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: invoke cloture does not vote down the bill. And I
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: think that's a very important thing for people to understand.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: So you mentioned a moment ago, though, and people probably
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: heard me say, well, get to 60. Well, get to
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: 60 would require Democrats. You mentioned a moment ago that
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: this is meant to make Democrats suffer, that they've got
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: to endure this. What's the leverage here over Democrats? What
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: are they being deprived of by the fact that all
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: this floor time is being concentrated on the Save America Act.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Why would Democrats feel any pressure here?
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Well, that's, you know, the question really is how you
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: behave in this process, because they're not necessarily being deprived
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: of anything. They don't want the Trump agenda to pass.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: So you have to make it, and John Thune has
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: to make it, and Senate Republicans have to make it
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: physically painful for them. And so it can't just be,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: you know, and the risk they run of the amendment
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: tree is it's more difficult to force Democrats to the
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: floor because Democrats don't necessarily care about these amendments. You
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: have to start calling live quorums. You have to keep
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: the Senate in overnight. You have to make the floor
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: so unpredictable that Democrats have no idea what's coming because
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: the way the Senate operates normally is it's this sort of,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: you know, consent process. Everybody knows what's happening. The Republican
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: and Democrat floor staff, you know, consult with each other.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: They know what to expect. It's very comfortable.
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I see. I see what you're saying. So here's what
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: needs to happen. You're depriving them of their dinner reservations.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: You're depriving them of their sleep. You're depriving them of
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: being able to jet off to whatever party they want
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to go to and call themselves a senator and get
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: free meals. You're depriving them of all of that. And instead,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: they've got to go to work and they have to
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: do it at unpredictable hours for extended periods of time.
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Because, you know, they don't they have to be you're
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: tyrannizing them.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: With the uncertainty of at any point.
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: The amendment tree is up. But at any point.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: John Thune could go to the floor and and table
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: all those amendments and move to the bill. They have
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: to be living in the fear of that happening. They
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: have to be living in fear of Republicans suddenly presenting
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: a quorum and trying to put the question. And that
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: has got to be we can't control that. The only
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: person that can control that is John Thune.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: So there is now now this is this should not
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: come as a surprise. There's like one Democrat senator who's
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: signaling that he is willing to negotiate on the terms
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: of the bill at this moment. That's John Fetterman. John
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Fetterman says, hey, if this is just a photo ID bill,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to change anything about mail in balloting,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: which is a complete mess. Mail in balloting is a mess.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter admitted it early this century. He said it's
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: the primary vector for fraud in the United States. But
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: what you have Fetterman saying is like, look, if it's
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: just a photo ID bill, I'm for it. I'm for it. Now,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's enough to start breaking other
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Democrats away, but here we go. We got one guy
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: starting to say, okay, there's a way to get me
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: to a yes, and it's for a universal photo ID bill.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: What does that tell you?
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: It's an invitation, right? This is how the Senate has
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: operated for 200 years.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Is you see an opening and you begin the process.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: And usually what happens in the Senate is a gang forms, right?
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: People may remember things like gang of eight, gang of 14.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: There's like a group of committed senators from both sides
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: that are trying to work out what a bipartisan agreement
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: might look like. The point of this entire exercise is
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: to force Democrats into that negotiation if you want to
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: invoke cloture on the question, right? If you want to
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: use them in this process, and it seems like Senate
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Republicans do, then start. This is what the Senate is
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: designed for. It's the consensus body. It is supposed to
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: be forcing these negotiations. So do it. Every major piece
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: of legislation in the Senate for literally 250 years has
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: passed this way. It's only the last 20 years that
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: we've just seen, oh, we don't have 60. We just
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: give up and go home. That is never how the
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Senate operates. Let's put our back into it and see
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: what we come up with.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: So I've got a clip and well, maybe I'll play
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: it in a moment, but I'll just ask you about it.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: John Thune was on with Brett Baier last night on
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the Fox News channel. And Brett had asked him, hey,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: why aren't you invoking the speaking filibuster here? Why aren't
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: you doing that particular strategy? And Rachel, you've been talking
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: about this. In fact, I think, honestly, you may not
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: say this yourself, but I think a lot of the
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: world knows about this because of you. But you're not
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: invoking this strategy. And Thune's response involves something like, well,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: this hasn't been done since the 1800s. And I listen
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: to that and I go, wait a second, your excuse
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: is you haven't done your job in hundreds of years,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: so why start now? I don't, what is that?
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched that interview. He says, well, it's never
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: been used successfully to pass a bill at 51 votes.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: And there is actually a historical example from 1890, the
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Sherman Silver Protection Act that using a talking filibuster made
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: the opposition give up and the bill did go, the
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: question was put at 51 votes. So there's that sort of,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: you know, academic historical fact. But what he's basically saying
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: is this is hard and we don't want to work nights. Historically,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: senators have been able to use this in various forms.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: This idea that, well, it's never been used to pass
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: 51 votes. That is, as a narrow factual matter, besides
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: that one example, correct. The talking filibuster, though, is much,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: much more than that. And it's been used many times
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: to pass major pieces of consequential legislation, simply because it's
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: a negotiating, it forces the political process that results in
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: a bill.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: It's distinct from what Senator Mike Lee calls the zombie filibuster,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: which is, again, this process of I put one cloture
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: vote on the floor, it doesn't get 60, I give
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: up and go home.
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: The talking filibuster forces the process to move forward. Is
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: it always successful?
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: No.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: You can never guarantee a legislative outcome on the Senate floor.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: That is, again, the beauty of the deliberative process.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: But it forces the Senate to work. And that is
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: why so many of us have been proposing it is
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: because it forces a process on a bill that I
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: personally think is very good politics for Republicans.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Totally. Let's talk about the politics of this moment. Now,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: as I've been telling people, it appears, I think, crystal
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: clear to anybody who's paying attention that a lot of
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: what we're witnessing right now is an attempt by at
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: least some in the Republican Party to placate the base.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: These senators are hearing a lot from Republicans at this
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: moment all across the country. The whole base is calling
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the Senate. Much of this audience is calling, knocking on doors,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: sending emails. I'm getting all of their email communications is
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: being forwarded to me. Here's what my senator's saying. Here's
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: what they didn't say. Here's what I'm reading between the lines.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: All of that. Everybody's very active on this issue right now. So, Rachel,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: despite the fact that there are some in Washington, not
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Mike Lee, Mike Lee wants to pass this thing, but
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: some in Washington who want to put on a show
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: for us right now, what should the base be doing
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: at this moment in terms of the political calculations we
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: should make as voters to What kind of pressure should
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: we be putting on the Senate as we speak?
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I think it goes back to kind of what
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: we were discussing. We want the Senate to take this seriously, right? Yes,
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: there's a performative element to it, right? We want to
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: see them actually work on this bill and debate it
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: and like make Democrats bleed. But we also at the
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: same time want them to be taking it seriously. We
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: want them to be trying to work this out with Democrats.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: We want at the end of this process, because at
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: some point, the Senate will have to move on to
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: something that has a deadline, right? DHS, Mark Wayne Mullen, FISA,
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: you know, things that are coming up. But what we
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: expect at that point, fine, the Senate can go do
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: its business, but we expect the message to be, we
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: are not done here. We are going to continue to
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: work on this bill. It is incredibly important to the
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Senate Republicans, us and the American people. We expect the
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Senate to return to it. And John Thune needs to
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: look at the conference and say, we're coming back, right?
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: We got to do this thing, but you know what?
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: We're going to keep working on this bill. We're going
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: to bring it up and we are going to give
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: substantial floor time to it again, because we respect the
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: fact that, you know, legislation takes time and it takes effort.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: And we don't want this to be a one and
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: done exercise.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: OK, finally, how much do you think this issue is
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: now ingrained in the base in terms of like just
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: being a part of the DNA of American voters who
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: are thinking, OK, this is my litmus test for whether
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: or not you even become a candidate for federal office?
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: I do think that the base understands this issue and
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: is more fluent in the procedures than I've really ever
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: seen in a long time. And I think it's not
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: going away. This is an issue, again, many of us
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: have proposed this strategy because it's good politics. So many
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: people already think voter ID is law. It is that
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: common sense. And so I think when people have found out, oh,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: by the way, this isn't law and this is something
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Republicans have to do, but they don't really want to
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: do it, it kind of blows people's minds. So I
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: don't know that this issue is going away. And I
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: think Republicans shouldn't.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: It should become a platform based issue and Republicans should
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: treat it that way.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Rachel Bovard, Conservative Partnership Institute. Thank you. I learned a lot. Again,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: every time we talk, I do. And I appreciate you.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thanks, Vince. There she is. Rachel Bovard.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Appreciate her time this morning. And yeah, it really it
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: really comes down to like, what are we going to
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: see in the in the weeks ahead? You know, what
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: is this going to look like? And so pay attention
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: to the specifics. Like, just because you see a single
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: cloture vote, as Rachel just described, doesn't mean it's over.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: We don't even know when we're going to get a
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: cloture vote. And a cloture vote is merely a vote
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to end the debate and proceed to the vote on
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the bill itself, which is why they say cloture takes 60.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: You need a supermajority in the Senate to end debate
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and then move on to the vote, a 60 threshold.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: You know, just because we do one doesn't mean it's done.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Go back to debating. Go back to debating. Keep debating
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: it and then file another cloture vote. See if we
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: can pick anybody else up. You know, this is going
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: to be a process that we need to keep the
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: pressure on. We need to keep the pressure on and
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: make it really clear. And I and I've said before,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you know, in Thune's case, you know, Thune fails here
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: and there's all sorts of indicators that he's destined for failure.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: If he fails here, I'm sorry, you may be a
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: nice guy. I don't know. You know, President Trump seems
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: to like working with him just fine. But let's get
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: rid of them. Let's find somebody, as President Trump said
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: last year, is going, last week rather, is going to lead.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Your job is to lead. It's not merely to be
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: sort of an empty vessel for, well, here's what the
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: data tell me. We don't have enough votes. Well, what
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: have you done to get them? How much effort have
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: you put in to get them? That's the core question.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: And if you can't succeed in that effort, let's find
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: somebody else who can. You know, the guy who runs
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the Senate, the Republican Party, you've got an immense amount
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: of power. You control purse strings for elections. You can
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: dedicate funding to help candidates get elected into the Senate
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: in the first place. You can get your preferred guy through.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the whole reason why in Texas right
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: now we've got John Cornyn and Ken Paxton. Cornyn supported
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: by the establishment, supported by John Thune. Ken Paxton supported
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: by the base. President Trump didn't endorse in that race.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Yesterday was the deadline for those guys to drop out
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: for the runoff. So they're both going to appear on
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: the ballot in this thing. It's just It's just you
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: have a lot of power in this job. You should
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: use it. It's leverage. And that leverage is really important
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: to being able to achieve the things that are important
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: to the American people, if that's your priority. It also
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: includes committee assignments. Are you in charge of things? Do
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: you have power in the Senate? The Senate majority leader
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: has immense power. He's not merely just like a guy
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: who's telling you what the weather is. He's a guy
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: who can change the weather. He's a guy who really
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: can affect what comes next. So do it, John Thune.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: John Thune was on with, as I mentioned, he was
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: on with Brett last night. Brett asked a series of
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: good questions on Fox. And I didn't love Thune's answers here,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: as I just told Rachel. Take a listen. Here's cut nine.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Brett Baier interviewing John Thune last night.
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  Speaker 10: I don't want to dwell on this too much, but
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: some of your colleagues say the talking filibuster is the
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: way to go. Here's the Utah Republican Senator Mike Lee.
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  Speaker 7: This is something that 85% of the American people want.
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  Speaker 7: So if a small handful of Democratic lawmakers want to
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: interfere with the will of the American people, let them
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: earn it. Make them speak, make them stand on the
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: Senate floor and explain why in front of all the
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  Speaker 7: American people. They won't last very long. This is something
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: that we can do without changing a single rule or
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: a single precedent. And it's something that we must do
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: in this instance.
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  Speaker 10: So why in specific detail are you convinced that a
• 50:58
  Speaker 10: talking filibuster doesn't work?
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  Speaker 8: Well, first off and foremost, because we don't have the
• 51:02
  Speaker 8: votes for it. And that's, again, it's a simple function
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: of the math in the Senate. It would take even
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: a talking filibuster, it would take 51 votes. We don't
• 51:10
  Speaker 8: have 51 votes for that in the United States Senate.
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  Speaker 6: But why is that?
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  Speaker 10: Why are Republican colleagues not.
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: Going to force the issue?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: The president's obviously.
• 51:19
  Speaker 10: putting his foot here, saying this is the most important
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  Speaker 10: thing that needs to come out of this Congress.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: And I know people don't like to hear this, but
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: the talking filibuster, you know, it takes you back kind
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: of basically to the 1800s. You go back to the
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: 19th century and the way things were done in the Senate.
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  Speaker 8: And we can't find an example in modern Senate history
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  Speaker 8: where a piece of legislation passed via the talking filibuster.
• 51:40
  Speaker 8: But in the meantime, But he would say if they.
• 51:43
  Speaker 10: Got tired and exhausted, it would be 51 votes.
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: It would be at 51 votes. But between now and then,
• 51:48
  Speaker 8: and you're talking about unlimited debate, and any time an amendment,
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: for example, is offered and fails, if it gets tabled,
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: you start all over. You reset the clock. And it
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: really favors the minority. When Harry Reid was the majority leader,
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: Democrat leader in the Senate, same thing with Chuck Schumer.
• 52:03
  Speaker 8: They both looked at doing this and opted against it.
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: What it would force us to do in the Senate.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Is— So basically what happens is Thune goes on to say, like, hey,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: if we get rid of the non-speaking filibuster, he's—look, he's
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: blurring the lines quite a bit. We're not asking you— I mean,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: there are— I have asked you to change the rules. That's
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: separate and distinct from what we're talking about right now.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I'm asking you to follow the existing Senate rules. Use
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: the speaking filibuster. Fill the amendment tree, as Rachel Bovard
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: was just talking about. Get rid of any opportunity for
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Democrats to interfere. Oh, but Vince, what if they present
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: something that's like an uncomfortable vote for Republicans? If that happens,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: then vote it down. Say upfront that all Republicans are
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: gonna stand there shoulder to shoulder, vote down everything. We're
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: voting no on any garbage. We're voting on a clean bill.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: We're getting this through. We're doing this for the American people.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: It can be achieved with 51. As John Thune just said,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: they just don't have them. They don't have the votes.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: And again, if he's worked at all to achieve that,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: he's never told the rest of us. Have you noticed
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: he's never once been like, yeah, I've worked really hard, dude.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I've been twisting arms. I'm trying to get people on board.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: It's tough. It's like herding cats. Nothing, nothing. It's just like,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: it just throws his hands up. I don't know what
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: to do. How about your job? How about, I know
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: it's frustrating, deeply frustrating, which is why the pressure needs
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: to stay on. And now I don't know who this is.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: A real reporter, I say this is a real reporter
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: because listen to the wording of this question. Why don't
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: we get questions like that? First of all, Brett did
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: a fine job talking to John Thune yesterday. But a
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: real reporter in the Congress walks up to John Thune
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: yesterday at his press conference and asked him the core question,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: why is the filibuster more important than stopping illegal aliens
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: from voting. Cut aid. Watch this exchange.
• 53:53
  Speaker 8: Why is the filibuster more important than stopping illegals from voting? Well, look,
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think that there are many ways in
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: which you can stop illegals from voting. A lot of
• 54:05
  Speaker 8: states have some of those measures already in place. But
• 54:09
  Speaker 8: I do think the filibuster, or maybe more specifically, the
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: concept that the founders had for the United States Senate
• 54:17
  Speaker 8: was that it would be one body that was majoritarian.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: And one that wasn't.
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: And so they divided power in a way that enabled
• 54:23
  Speaker 8: the United States Senate, which we have six-year terms, staggered terms,
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: more of a methodical way about going about solving the
• 54:32
  Speaker 8: country's problems, and generally in ways that ensure that there
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: are bipartisan majorities in which to accomplish that.
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: So he goes back to some, like, explanation of American history.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: He's right. The founders intended for the United States Senate
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: to be the more deliberative body, to be the, what
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: is it, the cooling dish for the teacup? Yeah, they're
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: trying to, there's a role for the Senate that the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: founders envisioned. No question about it. But we're not asking
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you to ram anything through. We're asking you to use
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: the talking filibuster. I'm straight up asking you to stop
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: the Senate's business for maybe months to work on this
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: important piece of legislation. That's it. We're not asking you
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: to blow up the rules. We're asking you to follow them.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: But there's a point at which you move so slow,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: you go backwards. What in the hell are you even
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: talking about? We're supposed to move very slowly. The guy
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: asked you, why is the filibuster more important than stopping
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: illegal aliens from voting? That's the question. Why does it
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: seem like you're more committed to protecting illegal alien votes
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: than doing your job? That's the question. I don't know
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: who that was, but he gets the Reporter of the
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Day award. That was a great question. Why can't more
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: reporters sound like that? Just say it.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Say it out loud. Say it out loud.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: You know, years ago, remember when Obama... just randomly granted
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: amnesty to millions of people. Dreamers is what he called them, dreamers.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: And when he was standing there in the Rose Garden
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: and he made that announcement, there was one reporter, my
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: White House correspondent, Neil Monroe, at the time working for
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the Daily Caller, these days he works for Breitbart. Neil Monroe.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: And as the president seemed to be stopping speaking, Neil
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: yells out a question. Why do you favor foreigners over
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: American workers? Do you remember this? Does anybody remember this, chat?
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Why do you favor foreigners over American workers? Now, for that,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Neal should be thrown a parade. Neal's a hero for
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: yelling that question out. He's a hero. He actually performed
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: journalism in front of the president of the United States.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: And the reaction to it, though, was madness, was madness.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: First of all, Obama got angry at him. And he
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: said he interrupted his speech. Well, Obama speaks so slowly,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: you don't even know if he was done yet. So
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Neil wrongly assumed he was done speaking because the guy
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: has the most pregnant pauses imaginable. And he yells out,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: why do you favor foreigners over American workers? And Obama
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: starts scolding him. It's the right thing to do. It's
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the right thing to do. Next time, let me finish
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: speaking before I ask you a question. He's like screaming
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: at him. And then the media chased him. Neil away
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: from the White House. Neil came back to our offices.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: He was being tailed by the press running after him,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: demanding to know why he had heckled the president of
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the United States when he was the only one with
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the testicular fortitude to ask a damn question that had
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: any relevance to protecting the interests of the American people
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: in the Rose Garden that day. That kind of journalism
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be rare. It should be common. That kind of
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: journalism is why we have the First Amendment of the
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: United States. To protect the ability of journalists, real journalists,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: to ask real questions and speak truth to power on
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: behalf of the American people who they're supposed to serve.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: That's why. That's why it exists. A refreshing reminder of
• 58:06
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• 58:09
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• 58:12
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