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Football at Four: An Early Look at 49ers-Eagles Playoff Matchup · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: today's Football at four. Go look at the Niners and
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  Speaker 1: early look at the Niners. What to expect from the
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. They are the number six team,
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  Speaker 1: number six seed, I should say, and Adam Kaplan's here
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  Speaker 1: to break them down with us right now for today's
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  Speaker 1: edition of Football at four on The Sports Beast Live
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  Speaker 1: on ninety seven three ESPN. Holy mackerel, Adam, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: talked to you forever.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like Happy New York. Mike, Yeah, it seems
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  Speaker 2: like it for sure. So here we are. Here we are.
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  Speaker 2: We're in the playoffs. Man. You know I heard you
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  Speaker 2: when you have to talk about it yesterday about not
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  Speaker 2: playing most of the starters. Sirianni wasn't lying. I mean
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  Speaker 2: he did say some starters would have to play, and
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  Speaker 2: they did. But wasn't quite the way I thought. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't know that DeVante Smith would be playing to
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  Speaker 2: get his over a third. What I found comical was
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  Speaker 2: he denied that of his a risky play, the one
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  Speaker 2: that he got one thousand and eight, beating two defenders
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  Speaker 2: and having to jump off for it. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I get it, Nick Is, he can't admit that it was.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. But I thought the whole thing was comical.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, Hey, they took the risks that
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  Speaker 2: they did. Thankfully, no one got hurt that we know of.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see what the injury report looks like tomorrow when
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  Speaker 2: the first one comes out. But here we are, Mike
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  Speaker 2: Reid turning the page.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they turned the page, and they will now take
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  Speaker 1: on the San Francisco forty nine ers. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: when you think of the forty nine ers, you think
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  Speaker 1: of Kyle Shanahan, you think of his offense, you think
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  Speaker 1: of motion, you think of a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 1: So let's take a look at their offense here. What
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  Speaker 1: are some of the things that stand out to you
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  Speaker 1: about San fran and the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, all right, so you talked about motion. I strongly
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  Speaker 2: encourage all of your listeners on nine to seven three
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  Speaker 2: ESPN South Jersey. Tomorrow morning will release the next version tape.
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  Speaker 2: We did version one of inside the tape. That one
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  Speaker 2: was on Tanner McKey today because we know a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fans are obsessed with Tanner mckeey, so we did
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  Speaker 2: one on them today, so you could watch that one today. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you can actually listen to it if you wish, but
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  Speaker 2: you should watch it. Tomorrow's is strictly going to be
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  Speaker 2: on what you just talked about, the Niners offense, and
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  Speaker 2: then we do our pregim show we'll talk about Robert
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  Speaker 2: Sealer's defense. But this show tomorrow Man, is really cool.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to love it. And some of the most
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  Speaker 2: unique motion I've ever seen, specifically Kyle Eus check number
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  Speaker 2: forty four, who's their fullback, who, by the way, was
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  Speaker 2: a tight end at Harvard, a really very unique motion
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  Speaker 2: that they use with him. Yes, they're a heavy motion
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  Speaker 2: offense top three, but just the way that they use it,
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  Speaker 2: it's fascinating, Mike, So you're getting that, and I think
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  Speaker 2: based on one I'm told it's really look they kind
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  Speaker 2: of know they have they don't have Brandon and I
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  Speaker 2: this year, who probably will never play for them again.
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  Speaker 2: One of the most bizarre situations I could remember that's
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  Speaker 2: clearly affected their passing game. But remember it's a scheme,
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  Speaker 2: total scheme based. Kyle Shanahan rarely asked getting one to
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  Speaker 2: win one on one. That's not the type of offense.
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  Speaker 2: This is he schemed knowledge dies, He scheme them open.
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  Speaker 2: It's about space creation. I talked to Carlos Side about
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  Speaker 2: that when he was with the Niners. I talked to
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  Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel about that early in his career, and they
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  Speaker 2: both thought it was so unique the way that Kyle
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  Speaker 2: would create space. And you've got to be so disciplined
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  Speaker 2: on defense. Now, Sirianne's one and two against them. You
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  Speaker 2: know the first year, I wouldn't you know they got
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  Speaker 2: blown out. I wouldn't even worry about it. The other
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  Speaker 2: one is one Perty got hurt and Egles crush them.
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  Speaker 2: Josh Johnson played in that game, ironically, and you know
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  Speaker 2: the one in the regular season where Eagles got hammerd.
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  Speaker 2: Now that that was in the midst of all sorts
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  Speaker 2: of chaos with the coaching staff. But vic fanjo as
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  Speaker 2: he talked about today, he's gone against Kyle before. It's
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  Speaker 2: been a while. It's been eight years. But it's even
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  Speaker 2: more extreme because they don't have guy guy who could
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  Speaker 2: win one on one. This year it's Juan Jennings number fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: Mike was really good. DeMarcus Robinson is a journeyman receiver,
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  Speaker 2: good special teams player. Ricky Pier saw the best receivers
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  Speaker 2: hurt he now is another new injury. It's hamstring addition
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  Speaker 2: to the PCL sprain and the ankle. And of course
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  Speaker 2: McCaffrey's the first guy you got to stop. And then
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  Speaker 2: you know their offensive lines are not great. And then
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  Speaker 2: you got Kittle. Of course, it's the best two way
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  Speaker 2: to end in the NFL. There's talent there, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not the same with that Ayuk. Ayuk is the one
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  Speaker 2: guy who could win one on one, no problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was driving around the stadium in his car
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  Speaker 1: the other day when they were playing. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: the most bizarre situation. And then you know, you look
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  Speaker 1: at their offensive front upfront, on their offensive line, Treent Williams.
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  Speaker 1: If he doesn't play, and he is iffy for the game. Here,
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  Speaker 1: what do we make of this offensive line?
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  Speaker 2: Because I would be stun if he doesn't play. I
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  Speaker 2: understand he couldn't go last week with a hamster injury.
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  Speaker 2: The kid pleasants he got handled. Now Seattle is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Seattle's defense, they don't have any A level pass rushers,
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  Speaker 2: but they're really deep at edge and their scheme under
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald they had coach of Caulzer defense. They got him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the Niners, whose offensive times has been phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: They led the NFL in efficiency for about seven or
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  Speaker 2: eight weeks. They got shut down last week. The Egals
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  Speaker 2: don't play a scheme anywhere like this, so we need
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  Speaker 2: to be careful. But Fangio, see what Vic wants to
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  Speaker 2: do is not blitz and plays much man coverage. Like
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  Speaker 2: their man coverage rate Mike is way up this year.
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  Speaker 2: You had another surprise for Fangio this year. Earlier in
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  Speaker 2: the year they were blitzing way more we expected. Now
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  Speaker 2: you know it's it's down to his close to the
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  Speaker 2: normal level, but they're playing more man coverage and you
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  Speaker 2: can do that now, Pierce of if he plays Mike,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're not worried about Peersoft because he's like
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  Speaker 2: if he was healthy, if he didn't have an injury,
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  Speaker 2: that's a different story. Pierschall's phenomenal shred aara quickness, but
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  Speaker 2: if he plays, he'll be playing on one leg basically,
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  Speaker 2: So you're playing that scheme, Mike. They've gone against Shanahan
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  Speaker 2: and they know what it looks like. They have the tape.
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  Speaker 2: They're breaking it down. Fantio knows what he's looking at.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little different from us with a run though.
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  Speaker 2: It starts with McCaffrey play action like you can't believe that.
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  Speaker 2: You got to be disciplined. They want to say, it's
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  Speaker 2: very deceptive illusion of complexion. And you've heard of McVeigh
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  Speaker 2: talk about that. There's a lot of that here. They're
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  Speaker 2: not the most talented offensive line, but Shadahan does all
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  Speaker 2: he can for moving pocket to get Purty rolling, and
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  Speaker 2: Purdy's got great feet, He's very quick, Mike, the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: must be disciplined. They've got Josh Johnson, old man, Josh
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  Speaker 2: Johnson turned forty in May. He got them last week, Mike, run.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he did. It'll be interesting to see the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: front against the forty nine or average offensive line. Could
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  Speaker 1: that be a big Williams Yeah, if and if Williams
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  Speaker 1: can go in the game, which there was some you know,
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  Speaker 1: murmurs that like, if the game was on Sunday, they
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  Speaker 1: may have played, but the game being said Saturday, they
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  Speaker 1: weren't ready to go that one extra day. So you
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  Speaker 1: would think that that means they are ready to play
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  Speaker 1: this week coming up here, Williams in person. But we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: What about the Niner defense here? What kind of defense this?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's not like the Eagles have some award
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  Speaker 1: winning offense here, So what are they looking at on defense?
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  Speaker 2: Mike? But they give up the plays in the past game.
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  Speaker 2: Their run defense is inconsistent. They're just not great on
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  Speaker 2: the front because look they're down to edge rushers Nick
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  Speaker 2: Bosa a second ACL injury in his career, mikekel Williams
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  Speaker 2: their first round antrush out of Georgia to also an ACL.
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  Speaker 2: That's crush them right off starts. I mean, he's had
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  Speaker 2: a nice season now number forty seven. Now he's back
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  Speaker 2: in the wide nine with his guy Robert Sala. They
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  Speaker 2: work together for the Jets. I mean, he's had a
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  Speaker 2: nice season. Is it pure speed rusher? They know? It's
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  Speaker 2: not like Eagles don't know what they expect from them.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Mike, He won a Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl with them last season. They're not strong up the middle.
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  Speaker 2: They're down four linebackers, most slightly. This week, Michael Ketrick's
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  Speaker 2: younger brother Eric will be starting. Bethune had been starting
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  Speaker 2: for Warner. He's out. He's having growing surgery. D winners
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  Speaker 2: number forty eight with an anco injury. He's very questionable.
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  Speaker 2: There actually could be down. I'm looking at it now
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  Speaker 2: my notes. You're actually gonna be down five linebackers. Depends
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  Speaker 2: what happens. We know that he goes have come out running, okay.
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  Speaker 2: And the weather, by the way, the weather right now,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm crazy obsessed with weather. High forties. Now
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be windy. It could be twenty to
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  Speaker 2: thirty of my honor wins on Sunday. I hate to
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  Speaker 2: break it to you. I hope it doesn't happen. The forecast,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, has changed a lot over the last
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  Speaker 2: forty eight hours. No, it's not going to be sixty
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  Speaker 2: as some people guessed right now. It's gonna be the
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  Speaker 2: high forties. But that doesn't stop sometimes your ability to
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  Speaker 2: throw the football. If you do. When Gustrot dropped down,
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  Speaker 2: coaches will throw the football. But it's well scheme. But
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  Speaker 2: they are not a lot of good players on defense.
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  Speaker 2: I know their corners give up plays. Man Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 2: had a game. They they had one game MIC this season.
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  Speaker 2: Let me make sure I get this correct. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was over four fifty that they gave up yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all yes, of all quarterbacks. Jakobe Bresett. Now he threw
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  Speaker 2: fifty seven times, but it might he completed forty seven
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  Speaker 2: out of fifth Jakobe preset Mike from four fifty two.
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  Speaker 2: And if you hadn't for fantasy, you were like, this
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  Speaker 2: is unbelievable. Percent's a great backup. And and by the way,
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  Speaker 2: in that game, two receivers combined for three hundred yards.
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  Speaker 2: They can get got I mean you could get them,
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  Speaker 2: but you got to get to them. I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing you got to protect well. And Mike.
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  Speaker 2: This Eeagles offensive line. I know that the Niners have
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  Speaker 2: one of the worst pass rushers in the NFL, and
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  Speaker 2: they'll know how to handle the wide nine. But the
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  Speaker 2: question is can they run against the Niners with how
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  Speaker 2: disappoint pointing the interior of their off We know their
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  Speaker 2: offensive line has been disappointed, but the interior, especially Mike
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  Speaker 2: the season.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, as we're having this conversation, the Niners
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  Speaker 1: show you how desperate they are on defense. They have
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  Speaker 1: just signed former Eagles linebacker Kaizier White and they might
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  Speaker 1: have to play them on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy, Mike, Kaizer White was a guy
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  Speaker 2: that you know. He played very well for Gannon in
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  Speaker 2: the group in twenty two. He's he'd been out the
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  Speaker 2: league for a while. He could cover. He actually moves
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  Speaker 2: fairly well. But now what I would assume I'll go
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  Speaker 2: to the practice squad first and we'll see what he
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  Speaker 2: looks like for today's practice. They practice in about half
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  Speaker 2: an hour. So yeah, you know what another cool thing is, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: We're back to regular practice. We thank goodness. Yeah, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
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  Speaker 2: walk through, Saturday, game Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Nice stuff, all right, Adam kaplan real quick before we
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  Speaker 1: get out of here today on this footballer for Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: The injury problems too, This is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: storyline in this game. Philadelphia chose to rest their guys.
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  Speaker 1: They get through healthy. You should see Lane Johnson. There
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of reporting that he will be back
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  Speaker 1: at practice on Wednesday. It looked like today that Vic
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  Speaker 1: Fangeo said that Nakobe Dean should play on Sunday. Flip
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  Speaker 1: side San Francisco played on Saturday, and that was a
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  Speaker 1: fistfight and they got some injury problems.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they get the extra day. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's got Curtis Robinson who might start. He was in
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  Speaker 2: active last week, number fifty nine. Yeah, Mike. Right now,
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  Speaker 2: the big one for them is Ricky Fiersaw. I get
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  Speaker 2: as I said earlier, I don't know what kind of
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  Speaker 2: physical shape he is in. Not the hamsterring is new,
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  Speaker 2: and this is the unfortunate He got shot last year.
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  Speaker 2: If you remember in downtown San Francisco. You know, thankfully
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  Speaker 2: he recovered well from that situation, and he's he was
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  Speaker 2: actually drafted. When he got drafted, Mike, at the time,
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  Speaker 2: I actually remember reporting this, he was dealing with a
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  Speaker 2: shoulder problem. He's been out more than he's been available
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  Speaker 2: in his career in two years. That's that's been a
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  Speaker 2: big problem for them. This is to me. I now,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see when we do the show Friday, Mike how
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  Speaker 2: I feel. But right now I give it Eagles. He
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  Speaker 2: lean here. I'm definitely leaning towards the Eagle, but I
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  Speaker 2: think I actually won the picks. I think, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I know Jeff. I know Jeff picked against the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: more than Greg Cosell and I did for a pregim show.
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  Speaker 2: I think I have to ask Jeff. I think I
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  Speaker 2: actually won it this year. Who we don't do it
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  Speaker 2: against the spread, But I think I think I fared
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  Speaker 2: better picking the Eagles games this year than our too,
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  Speaker 2: my two comrades anyway, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, By the way, I know, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you guys looked at the table on this. I would
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  Speaker 1: love to see somebody if Jeremiah Trotter Junior how to
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  Speaker 1: play well he is. I remember the game last year
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  Speaker 1: against the Giants that he got a chance to play.
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  Speaker 1: I think he had like fifteen tackles in that game.
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  Speaker 1: He was all over the place in the game there.
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  Speaker 1: When did you ever think you would ever say the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles have an unbelievably depthful linebacking corps?
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's funny. I had another nugget for you.
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  Speaker 2: So our friend Derek Gunn and Barrett Brooks, you know
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  Speaker 2: Barrett and former Eagle number seventy seven, who's worked for
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  Speaker 2: let me see Sports, Philly Ray Dinger is away. You
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  Speaker 2: know he's away on a cruise or something overseas, so
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  Speaker 2: Barrett's pinch hitting and they I I know there, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I asked Derek today on the show that Jeff and
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  Speaker 2: I did. We did a round table with Derek. But
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  Speaker 2: two guys know, Barrett and Derek, especially because he's covered
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  Speaker 2: the team for decades. I actually put that to Derek today,
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  Speaker 2: When is the last time? But when can you remember
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  Speaker 2: an Eagles linebacker group being this elite and this great
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  Speaker 2: and this deep? And he couldn't remember one. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know because Jeff wrote read off a bunch of names
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  Speaker 2: were they were pretty average, you know, Dehani Jones, Levon Kirkland,
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  Speaker 2: whom I met at a Super Bowl back in twenty
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  Speaker 2: oh five in Houston. You could go through all the
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  Speaker 2: names and we know we don't want to crush like
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  Speaker 2: Nate Gerry's in the world where the fans couldn't stand.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, my kids, they're so deep there. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of mind boggling. I want to tease my friend Joe Banner,
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  Speaker 2: form Eagles president he led. He actually told us on
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  Speaker 2: our show one year there were throwing darts in this
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  Speaker 2: is around. This is the Greg Lloyd Junior stuff. Brian
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  Speaker 2: Rowll remember him from Penn State. It was like five
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  Speaker 2: foot eight and you know one now whatever. He was joking,
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  Speaker 2: but he was small. They don't do that anymore. How
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  Speaker 2: he I give how he credit. I never saw I
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  Speaker 2: thought that, never thought i'd see the day when he'd
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  Speaker 2: throw the tally in on just ignoring linebackers. You can
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  Speaker 2: never say that again. And you might remember I said
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  Speaker 2: on our show two years ago or three years ago,
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  Speaker 2: I know our fans love this at IDB said, folks,
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  Speaker 2: I promise you from being the training camp, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how good they're going to be. They will not
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  Speaker 2: be an embarrassment anymore. And since then, Mike, you could
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  Speaker 2: argue from one to five, Yeah, certainly one to four.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a better group of than actual football he
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  Speaker 2: got pure linebackers.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Not the way Trotter plays. I
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  Speaker 1: mean he's probably the third and the fourth guy on
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  Speaker 1: the list behind Campbell, Bonn and Dean obviously, and if
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  Speaker 1: Trotter played, I mean that play made on the goal line,
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  Speaker 1: he stood, the back up drove him. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: was by.
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  Speaker 2: The way, either Mike, he's small and.
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  Speaker 1: He's smaller right by the way, the Niners did announce
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  Speaker 1: that Tana Bethune is out for the season, so he
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  Speaker 1: will not play on Saturday as well. There you go,
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  Speaker 1: more news on the Niners. Will do it again on
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  Speaker 1: Friday with Adam Tomorrow, will do it with Jeff. This
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  Speaker 1: is Football at four. Thank you, Bud.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta say