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The Mothership Theory · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show, the world's most trusted conspiracy
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host,
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Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown, joining me as special guest co host
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Speaker 2: this week, comedian Katrina Davis. How's it going? Hello?
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Speaker 3: Hello, it's going great. I'm feeling good. Thank you for
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Speaker 3: having me.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for doing it. I appreciate it. You've never
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Speaker 2: been on Conspiracy The Show, right, You've been on pretty Scary,
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Speaker 2: been on on Pops. Yes, welcome to the big time because.
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Speaker 3: I know I am excited and nervous.
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Speaker 2: Katrina. Top five reasons to storm the capital on behalf
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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: Go oh no, I didn't know that's what this was.
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Speaker 2: Conspiracy.
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Speaker 3: I don't even have one. I like, even if I've
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Speaker 3: never brainstormed that, I'm gonna be honest.
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Speaker 2: It would be hard. It'd be hard. Uh yeah, No,
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Speaker 2: we're not that kind of conspiracy podcast. I have to
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Speaker 2: tell advertisers that quite often we are not to storm
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Speaker 2: the capitol type. We're more that here's why you were
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Speaker 2: stupid to storm the capitol type. This week, we're keeping
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Speaker 2: a casual. We're just talking about some news stories, a
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Speaker 2: roundup of conspiracy related news stories. Yay, This first one
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Speaker 2: is a fucking doozy because you've seen those UFO videos, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the ones. Everyone's up in arms about that. Even the
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Speaker 2: government's like, yeah, they're real, we don't know what they are. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they've only been trying since about six years ago to
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Speaker 2: get us up in arms about it. And every time
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Speaker 2: they post those videos, where like, are they going to
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Speaker 2: keep Trump from taking office? Are they going to end COVID?
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Speaker 2: If not, we don't give a fuck. I don't care. Unimportant.
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Speaker 3: Once they admitted at all, I think people like past
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Speaker 3: that we just want real answers now, like once they
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Speaker 3: mildly acknowledge that, yeah, unidentified objects, that they acknowledge them
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Speaker 3: on some point, anything that isn't an autopsy from them,
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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about.
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Speaker 2: Yeah at that point, Shit, now you're just telling me
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Speaker 2: what I already know, which is that I don't know
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Speaker 2: what I'm looking at. It's like, I don't need the
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Speaker 2: government to tell me that at all. No, But now
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Speaker 2: there's a new theory. And this is interesting because I
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Speaker 2: actually I'm one of those weirdos who watches the nightly
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Speaker 2: news and like the local news. And a while back
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Speaker 2: I had the nightly News NBC Lester.
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Speaker 3: Holt on I Love Lester Holt.
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Speaker 2: That forehead is how to control love. That is a
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Speaker 2: national treasure.
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Speaker 3: That's where he keeps all of the bass and his
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Speaker 3: voices in his forehead resonates around Lester Holt. It just
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Speaker 3: like bounces around in there a little bit before it
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Speaker 3: comes out.
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Speaker 2: I like to sometimes annoy my wife by uh when
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Speaker 2: when he says this is Lester Holt, I'll say, why
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Speaker 2: don't you try to be Morster hol Just just a
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Speaker 2: fun thing I tried to throw out there little.
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Speaker 3: Get everyone that can't see. I reacted much like I imagine
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Speaker 3: Adam's life.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it went over about the same way. Yeah, it
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Speaker 2: went really well, so Lester Hole more like Morster Hole.
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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't remember what I was doing,
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Speaker 2: but I couldn't watch. I just heard, like on the
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Speaker 2: way out of the room or on the way out
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Speaker 2: the door, Lester Holt says something about a new mothership
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Speaker 2: theory regarding those UFO videos we've seen, and it's like,
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Speaker 2: you can't just say that. You can't just say that
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Speaker 2: on TV and then just cut to commercial.
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Speaker 3: What in the oars and wells are we doing here?
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Speaker 3: Like it sounds like something that would not be exactly
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Speaker 3: what it is. That's what we've come to. We're straight
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Speaker 3: up talking about motherships on real news.
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Speaker 2: And I'm assuming this is what he was referring.
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Speaker 3: To, which this does look like some War of the
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Speaker 3: World's shit, this black and white photo. It's also beautiful.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the Pentagon, there are officials within the Pentagon,
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Speaker 2: not the Pentagon as a whole, didn't like team up
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Speaker 2: and issue this report. But in a paper dated March seventh,
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Speaker 2: Sean Kirkpatrick, who is head of the Pentagon's All Domain
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Speaker 2: Anomaly Resolution Office along with Harvard professor Avi Lobe, suggested
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Speaker 2: that what we're seeing could be probes from an extraterrestrial
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Speaker 2: mother ship. I don't like that.
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Speaker 3: And why would they decide this? It's like that it's
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Speaker 3: from a parent craft. That's what it says in here,
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Speaker 3: Like what made them decide that? Did they see something
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Speaker 3: bigger and similar? Why did they decide that these are
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, smaller extensions of something at all.
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Speaker 2: It's weird because if you read like the interviews with
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Speaker 2: Sean Kirkpatrick and read kind of into the paper a
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Speaker 2: little bit. It's only five pages, not that long of
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Speaker 2: a read. They're just like, we're just guessing, man, you know,
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Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with having a little guess in this.
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Speaker 3: And make it up. Well. It's funny too, because I
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Speaker 3: was looking back trying to break down the All Domain
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Speaker 3: Anomaly Resolution Office, and that seems like a solution they
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Speaker 3: would come up with. It's like, I don't know, we're
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Speaker 3: just checking out all of the anomalies and coming up
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Speaker 3: with resolutions and this could be one of them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all domain anomaly. So we're not just talking. Well,
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Speaker 2: some of those UFO videos they were flying like along
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Speaker 2: the surface of the ocean and they would dip down, yes,
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Speaker 2: into the ocean, and then come back out.
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Speaker 3: Which this is the part that I really wanted to
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Speaker 3: discuss with this story, which is that all you hear
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Speaker 3: from people in our military that are either in the
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Speaker 3: sky or near the water the second they hit that.
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Speaker 3: However many years they have to keep quiet. Mark. If
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Speaker 3: everyone has stories about stuff that they've seen in the
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Speaker 3: sky or in the water that they basically think are UFOs,
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Speaker 3: so like, I don't know even for them to put
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Speaker 3: out for with no backup evidence. Maybe it's a probe,
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Speaker 3: I don't know. To me, makes me think not so
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Speaker 3: much that it's a completely wild guest, as that they
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Speaker 3: do think it's a pro for a reason, but they're
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Speaker 3: not telling us that they also have evidence of like
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Speaker 3: a bigger ship that matches them or something like that,
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Speaker 3: because otherwise it makes no sense. Why would you just
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Speaker 3: make that up? You know?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a little alarming to just toss that
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Speaker 2: out there, like, because it seems like you would make
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Speaker 2: a few other guesses before you get too much.
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Speaker 3: Like the UFO version of when a best friend in
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Speaker 3: a rom com is talking about a crush, but he's
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Speaker 3: the crush where he's like, I don't know, maybe that
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Speaker 3: guy just loves you for who you really are, even
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Speaker 3: when your hair is messy, and the girl's like, why
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Speaker 3: are you talking so weird? And you're like, clearly he's
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Speaker 3: talking about himself. Like it feels like they're like, I
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Speaker 3: don't know, maybe it's like probes. I don't know, it
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Speaker 3: just seems like something that might be a probe, and
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Speaker 3: you're like, you know it's a probe, Like yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: tell me what.
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Speaker 2: You know, tell us what mountain this thing fucking lands
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Speaker 2: on already.
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Speaker 3: Yes, like you know something else.
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Speaker 2: That's the thing with aliens and UFOs. People are like, Oh,
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Speaker 2: if there existed, they'd be here by now, we would
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Speaker 2: have seen them. They could be There are so many
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Speaker 2: like mountain ranges that are mostly unexplored by people.
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Speaker 3: So much we find people here that we've missed, Like
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Speaker 3: it's like we're still bothering new animals and people on
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Speaker 3: drones on this planet. Why would you assume? Because I
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Speaker 3: also recently saw a photo rendering and it was like
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Speaker 3: what you think the universe does? Like how we picture
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Speaker 3: the universe as this stagnant like circles around the Sun,
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Speaker 3: And it was like, what it's actually doing? And it
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Speaker 3: took it us hurling through space. All of the planets
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Speaker 3: in the Sun are all moving in a forward direction
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Speaker 3: at like different times while they're spinning in the galaxy.
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Speaker 3: And I was like that, coupled with how infinite we
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Speaker 3: already know all of this stuff is the fact that
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Speaker 3: we're just now figuring out black holes and stuff. It's like,
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Speaker 3: how could you possibly think that everything would have found us,
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Speaker 3: or that everything would have known about us and cared
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Speaker 3: to necessarily make themselves known or visible or that in
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Speaker 3: of that wood. I don't know. That just seems really
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Speaker 3: egotistical to say definitively.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I feel like kind of the same argument
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Speaker 2: with Bigfoot, Like people are always like, well, we would
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Speaker 2: have found one by now.
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Speaker 3: We just found a new kind of cat like last week.
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Speaker 3: Like we're constantly finding new species that we've managed to
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Speaker 3: not murder yet. So and I'm not counting out anything.
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Speaker 2: Not just that, but in every Bigfoot story where it
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Speaker 2: gets even kind of close to people, we start shooting
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Speaker 2: at that motherfucker. So maybe Bigfoot evolved a long long
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Speaker 2: time ago to just live where people don't super avoid. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: because there's sections of the woods, there's parts of the
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Speaker 2: forest jungle that we're not gonna get to exactly.
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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, who could have seen Bigfoot? The
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Speaker 3: kid from Into the Wild. We'll never know, Like.
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Speaker 2: If that's what killed him, No.
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Speaker 3: Don't say, I don't know what would be sadder if
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Speaker 3: it was him misreading his his forging book. Sorry spoilers,
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Speaker 3: were Into the Wild We're a decade and a half
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Speaker 3: old movie or Bigfoot? Wow, that would be Emil Hirshno.
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Speaker 3: I love him and that movie so much that is.
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Speaker 2: A good movie, and so people who haven't seen this
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Speaker 2: report might be picturing. Okay, so it's like what the
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Speaker 2: Pentagon's like top twenty five reasons we might be seeing
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Speaker 2: UFOs and this is just one of them.
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Speaker 3: No, this is BuzzFeed.
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Speaker 2: This is mostly about the idea that it's a mothership.
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Speaker 2: Like the whole first page introduction, there's a section called
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Speaker 2: the extraterrestrial Possibility. There's another one called propulsion methods. They
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Speaker 2: put a lot of thought into this, which at the
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Speaker 2: same time surprises me. It's only five pages. Seems like
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Speaker 2: they've been on this for a while. This is edited.
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Speaker 3: I feel like the second or even when you started
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Speaker 3: saying there's one whole page on a mothership, I started
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Speaker 3: thinking of how long we have Like there were men
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Speaker 3: and I'm saying men specifically because of what the time
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Speaker 3: would have been in like the fifties or whatever, that
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Speaker 3: were already open to this, I'm sure, and very intelligent.
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Speaker 3: But then their friends would be like, you're insane and
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Speaker 3: you're gonna make us look dumb, and like silence them.
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Speaker 3: And now we've gotten to the point where they kind
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Speaker 3: of like admitted a little bit and they're like, all right,
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Speaker 3: crack it open and give Gary a shot, and sometimes
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Speaker 3: like this is my time, and like he's got a
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Speaker 3: twenty page version of this that probably goes into stuff
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Speaker 3: that they were like, we're not putting all this out Gary,
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Speaker 3: and then they edited it down the fire.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be.
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Speaker 3: Like somewhere there is the Snyder cut of this. That's
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Speaker 3: my theory.
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Speaker 2: That has been a thing with science for a long time,
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Speaker 2: Like UFOs. You know, we think there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: scientific thought and effort being put into them, but there's
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Speaker 2: not because the scientific community also kind of frowned on
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Speaker 2: the idea of.
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Speaker 3: Right, I feel like a division amongst the validity of
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Speaker 3: it or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and even with this, in one of the articles
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Speaker 2: I read, there was a guy who was like, all right, well,
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Speaker 2: I get that you're putting this thing out saying it's possible,
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Speaker 2: but are you saying you believe it? Because that's a
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Speaker 2: big difference, and like implying that if they said they.
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Speaker 3: Believe believes in UFOs, then what the fuck are we
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Speaker 3: even doing kind of thing?
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Speaker 2: And then but also that they'd kind of be ostracized
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Speaker 2: by their fellow scientists.
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Speaker 3: Right, I can absolutely see that being a factor.
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Speaker 2: That's got to feel a little lonely in alienating science. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: like alienating.
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Speaker 3: To be that smart and still not be able to
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Speaker 3: amongst those brains come to you know what I mean,
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Speaker 3: Like you said, to still be an outsider at that
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Speaker 3: point is definitely probably makes you feel like an island
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Speaker 3: because there are people that agree with you but aren't
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Speaker 3: on the same wavelength. I'm sure that you can only
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Speaker 3: have but so much of a conversation with and then
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Speaker 3: people that do understand things to the level that you
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Speaker 3: would like to discuss them are not entertaining your theory.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a.
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Speaker 3: Guy watching these videos on a loop to teenage dirt
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Speaker 3: bag like crying, just feeling so alone.
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Speaker 2: We'll link to this paper so people can read it.
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Speaker 2: It goes into a bunch of stuff about how the
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Speaker 2: crafts might be Like dandelion seeds is the metaphor they
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Speaker 2: use that.
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Speaker 3: Oh right, like a sporelike thing. Yeah, that just kind
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Speaker 3: of shoot out and act. But it's like we've all
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Speaker 3: seen War of the World, Like, stop creeping me out?
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Speaker 3: Why are you just knowing out these theories that I
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Speaker 3: also can see being true? But like, why are these
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Speaker 3: the things that you're typing out and sending.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, none of it sounds good.
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Speaker 3: Like you said, these all sound like nerve wracking possibility,
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Speaker 3: and you.
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Speaker 2: Gotta wonder, like why we're just seeing them now? Have
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Speaker 2: we been seeing them the whole time but just didn't
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Speaker 2: have the proper camera technology to film them.
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Speaker 3: That's what I think about certain things, is like people
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Speaker 3: will tell you they've seen stuff like this with their
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Speaker 3: freaking eyeballs. I grew up in a navy town. You
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Speaker 3: can if you know a dozen people that have ever
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Speaker 3: been on a boat at three am, one of them
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Speaker 3: is going to have, I feel like a story about
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Speaker 3: something they've seen like this on the water.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what worries me about stuff like this.
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Speaker 2: There's a documentary we covered not too long ago on
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Speaker 2: this show that was called in Plain Sight the Intelligence
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Speaker 2: Community and UFOs, and at first it seems like just
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Speaker 2: your kind of run of the mill documentary about aliens
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Speaker 2: and shit, But then they start getting into this thing
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Speaker 2: where aliens are supposed to have come down and mated
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Speaker 2: with humans and altered our DNA in a way that
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Speaker 2: you can detect using like a DNA test, and that
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Speaker 2: these like enhanced people are kind of like what's been
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Speaker 2: causing all of life's problems like throughout history. And it's
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Speaker 2: to the point that someone in that documentary even suggests
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Speaker 2: that victims of these like enhanced people should maybe get
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Speaker 2: reparations of some sort. And it's like you're cutting some
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Speaker 2: lines for one thing, but also, holy shit, that's scary
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Speaker 2: because that's basically.
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Speaker 3: They show any like did they not show someone's DNA,
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Speaker 3: but like explain what they meant by like was there
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Speaker 3: some kind of common denominator in a certain kind of.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was, I don't remember what the exact Were.
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Speaker 3: They picking people that excelled it stuff or were they
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Speaker 3: saying like serial killers like who what kind?
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Speaker 2: They were describing them as like enhanced humans like almost
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Speaker 2: like mutants, damnit.
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Speaker 3: And but that they were the people that cause harm
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Speaker 3: kind of Yeah, I don't know about all that.
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Speaker 2: And the thing is that's that's really scary because that
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Speaker 2: could turn into a fake genocide so fucking easy.
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Speaker 3: Well that does sound like a paranoid delusion that someone
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Speaker 3: would have also.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and this shit in this documentary is
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Speaker 2: presented by like military intelligence people and like kindly old
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Speaker 2: former CIA agents. Why would they lie? And it's like
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Speaker 2: because they were young CIA agents once, of course they
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Speaker 2: would lie. And yeah, it just seems like we're inching
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Speaker 2: closer and closer to finding out something bad about these UFOs,
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Speaker 2: And I don't know if when we find it out,
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Speaker 2: it's at actually going to be true. So all right,
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Speaker 2: let's talk about this next story. This one we're switching
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Speaker 2: gears a little bit. The Georgia National Guard will use
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Speaker 2: phone location tracking.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, to recruit high school kids.
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Speaker 2: Like military recruitment at schools is a bad thing, and
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Speaker 2: location based surveillance tracking is a bad thing, so why
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Speaker 2: wouldn't we just combine those?
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Speaker 3: I mean, using geo tracking people is militaristic as hell,
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Speaker 3: Like of course they were going to think of this.
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Speaker 3: But what I was talking about. I was excited to
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Speaker 3: talk about this story because recently there was a viral
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Speaker 3: thread going around of just like a home video camera
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Speaker 3: last day of school and like the early two thousands,
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Speaker 3: and someone nostalgically wrote like, oh my gosh, this is
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Speaker 3: so sweet, like simpler times, and a bunch of people
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Speaker 3: immediately retweeted like, yeah, I was somewhere cutting myself in
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Speaker 3: a bathroom for like getting called a slur or like whatever,
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Speaker 3: just like retweeting how it actually was instead of just
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Speaker 3: like a bunch of happy blonde people waving in puka shells,
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Speaker 3: because that's like what this particular school just happened to be.
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Speaker 3: And then I retweeted one dad said show us the
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Speaker 3: army recruiters, you cowards, and I was like yes, because
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Speaker 3: that was like a very regular part of my high
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Speaker 3: school experience, especially being there nine to eleven was in
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Speaker 3: tenth grade, and the next two three years was just
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Speaker 3: like every male around me being aggressively indoctrinated. Yeah, at
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Speaker 3: every turn, like they were walking around in uniform.
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Speaker 2: Like I remember. Around that same time, MTV used to
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Speaker 2: have a show called Real Life.
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Speaker 3: Yes, True Life, Yeah, True Life. We love True Life.
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Speaker 2: It was a good show and they yes did want
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Speaker 2: about military recruiters at high schools. I don't remember, and
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Speaker 2: it was a really alarming episode, like the degree to
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Speaker 2: which they were recruiting at schools. But the moment I
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Speaker 2: always remember. One of these recruiters is talking to this
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Speaker 2: kid and he goes, well, what do you want to
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Speaker 2: be when you're older And he goes, well, I want
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Speaker 2: to be a rapper and the guy goes, you know,
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Speaker 2: Shaggy was a marine, and it's like, you got you're
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Speaker 2: gonna have to pull a better fucking.
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Speaker 3: Also the fact that he even had that in his
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Speaker 3: pocket at all, that is sales like that, and he
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Speaker 3: deserves a little metal just for that, just for being
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Speaker 3: that ready to pitch the military that he was like,
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Speaker 3: you know who else might rap and fighting for his
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Speaker 3: country missed the La ba la ball.
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Speaker 2: What a weird choice. Although I can't outside of Iced Tea,
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Speaker 2: who I'm sure as a cop, I can't think of
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Speaker 2: like too many other military rap I'm sure based rappers.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure there's some other rappers who have served.
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Speaker 3: I can't think of any.
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Speaker 2: Have I head, Oh, maybe Shaggy is the best choice.
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Speaker 2: What do I mean?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like you said, he definitely had already
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Speaker 3: been to a school where they were like, okay, we
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Speaker 3: gotta get these Like there's a bunch of people talking
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Speaker 3: about rap. They just cross reference. They're like, we got Shaggy,
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Speaker 3: run with it.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's the Georgia Army National Guard that's doing this.
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Speaker 2: According to documents uncovered by the Intercept, the Georgia Army
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Speaker 2: National Guard wants to geo fence sixty seven different public
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Speaker 2: high schools throughout the state. Geo fencing just means you
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Speaker 2: draw like a fake border around something, and any phones
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Speaker 2: within that border you target with, in this case, recruitment ads.
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Speaker 2: And in this case, those phones will be targeted with
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Speaker 2: recruitment ads for the Georgia Army National Guard. Those ads
20:52
Speaker 2: will appear on Instagram, Snapchat, streaming, music, television apps, pretty
20:58
Speaker 2: much anywhere you can name except TikTok. Feds are taking
21:01
Speaker 2: that TikTok shit serious, and that apparently includes they won't
21:06
Speaker 2: advertise on TikTok. And I'm sure TikTok is like, oh no, come.
21:09
Speaker 3: On, which is honestly the way you know they mean
21:13
Speaker 3: it the most is anything that involves money.
21:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, how is this like the most honest the
21:20
Speaker 2: government has ever been? When they're like fuck TikTok And
21:23
Speaker 2: I'm like, I bet you don't mean fuck TikTok, and
21:25
Speaker 2: it's like shit, they mean it.
21:26
Speaker 3: They're really because I know that people have been really
21:31
Speaker 3: back and forth about that, but I think I don't know,
21:34
Speaker 3: I feel like they really are that paranoid. I don't
21:36
Speaker 3: know how valid it is, but I think they really are.
21:38
Speaker 3: That people are saying that like which I wouldn't say.
21:41
Speaker 3: Maybe it's two birds with one. Some people have always
21:43
Speaker 3: also said that they're trying to get rid of it
21:46
Speaker 3: because of how people disseminate misinformation by just sharing realized
21:53
Speaker 3: shit with each other, and they don't like that, and
21:55
Speaker 3: that as a platform is like if they put an
21:59
Speaker 3: ad on there, someone's gonna stitch it and immediately have
22:03
Speaker 3: their take on being like I was serve this ad
22:08
Speaker 3: while I was at school, Like why would they be
22:12
Speaker 3: doing you know what I mean, it's so ready to
22:14
Speaker 3: call itself out that that was also probably a strategic decision.
22:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Joe Biden let a thing slip,
22:23
Speaker 2: or maybe they said it intentionally, but he was talking
22:27
Speaker 2: about I think specifically TikTok, and he said that he
22:32
Speaker 2: wants to put an end to the mental experiments they're
22:36
Speaker 2: doing on our kids. And here's what I think. I
22:39
Speaker 2: think we want to be the ones to use social
22:43
Speaker 2: media to run experiment our kids. Don't want China doing it, right,
22:49
Speaker 2: so they're doing it under the guise of privacy, when.
22:53
Speaker 3: Really they're doing it for control.
22:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, they want Facebook and Instagram to make the means
23:00
Speaker 2: of the nation depressed, not TikTok, because we want to
23:04
Speaker 2: be able to do it in our own way.
23:06
Speaker 3: And because people are learning, like, yeah.
23:10
Speaker 2: I don't use TikTok just because I don't.
23:12
Speaker 3: I don't have the energy, I don't have the timeations
23:15
Speaker 3: Like I'm not opening another it just hasn't made its
23:18
Speaker 3: way into the time that I spend on my phone
23:22
Speaker 3: and I'm not really looking to extend that to add
23:25
Speaker 3: something else to it. But a lot of my friends
23:27
Speaker 3: are on it, Like I have one so that I
23:29
Speaker 3: can click through and look at things and they're useful,
23:31
Speaker 3: but yeah, I do not spend any kind of time
23:34
Speaker 3: on there.
23:34
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't either, which probably explains why I just
23:38
Speaker 2: enlisted in the Georgia Army National Guard on Instagram as
23:42
Speaker 2: they get me every time.
23:44
Speaker 3: Just got this gestive overalls exactly buying fun underwear that's
23:50
Speaker 3: breathable and just joining the National Guard.
23:53
Speaker 2: Yeah that's where I got my Garfield sweatshirt and it's
23:55
Speaker 2: where Georgia Army National Guard.
23:58
Speaker 3: Oh, because that was the other thing I was thinking
24:00
Speaker 3: about them doing this is I wonder how many different
24:03
Speaker 3: versions we're going to see, maybe not of ads, but
24:06
Speaker 3: whatever other kinds of states doing stuff because participation is down,
24:12
Speaker 3: we do not have the military base that they feel
24:16
Speaker 3: we need for like standard just to like have people
24:21
Speaker 3: at the ready. And I was listening to a woman
24:26
Speaker 3: that was like a part of the Department of Defense
24:28
Speaker 3: speaking on all of the different reasons, and of course
24:31
Speaker 3: she was I think it was on like a podcast
24:33
Speaker 3: that's for the New York Times. So I was like
24:34
Speaker 3: screaming like halfway through it because she kept just like
24:38
Speaker 3: dancing around certain things and being like, well, a lot
24:41
Speaker 3: of the reasons that people don't want to is you know,
24:43
Speaker 3: obvious ones, like they don't want to die, like the
24:46
Speaker 3: loss of life. They have other things that they want
24:48
Speaker 3: to do that they don't think they'll be able to
24:50
Speaker 3: do because of joining the military, all of these things,
24:53
Speaker 3: and just like at the very end, barely touched on it.
24:55
Speaker 3: But it's like or the fact that we're now living
24:58
Speaker 3: with generations of people, people that have seen how we
25:01
Speaker 3: treat veterans, how and why we get into wars, Like
25:05
Speaker 3: she obviously can't say she works there, but it was like,
25:07
Speaker 3: or they don't want to enlist to be forced to
25:09
Speaker 3: fight in a war they don't believe in, they don't
25:12
Speaker 3: know that, like, and they're basically saying, like we need
25:15
Speaker 3: people to join the military for lack of a better
25:18
Speaker 3: word in my brain, like the imminent doom, Like there
25:23
Speaker 3: might not be something that we as a nation are
25:25
Speaker 3: worried about protecting each other right now, but you need
25:30
Speaker 3: to join the military for when that time comes, like
25:34
Speaker 3: we need to always be ready to protect ourselves, and
25:37
Speaker 3: her basically saying like the best way we've done that
25:41
Speaker 3: in the past is fear mongering. She was like, I
25:43
Speaker 3: came from the generation of the Cold War and are
25:45
Speaker 3: coming off of the end of it and what that
25:48
Speaker 3: looked like and how I was like, Yeah, that was easy,
25:50
Speaker 3: but that was also making everyone live in fear all
25:54
Speaker 3: the time. And so I guess maybe they're just trying
25:57
Speaker 3: to find a way around that. Hat.
25:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I can simply I mean, sympathize
26:03
Speaker 2: is the wrong word, but understand, Yeah, being a military
26:06
Speaker 2: recruiter would suck right now. And here's the thing, Maybe
26:10
Speaker 2: don't do it, but yeah, it would be a tough job.
26:13
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like they're throwing everything against the wall.
26:17
Speaker 2: There's a commercial running last year that had like a
26:20
Speaker 2: dub step remix of a Chicago song and it's like,
26:24
Speaker 2: imagine that being the thing that they got in over
26:27
Speaker 2: the top. I was anti military, but do you hear
26:32
Speaker 2: Peter Satara hit that note on that remix.
26:34
Speaker 3: That brings a good point though, in terms of the
26:38
Speaker 3: seriousness of joining the military, and like the National Guard
26:42
Speaker 3: even being something that people will join with the idea
26:46
Speaker 3: that you'll call me if you need me, But I'm
26:50
Speaker 3: not joining because I like want to be in the front,
26:53
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's like that kind of
26:56
Speaker 3: desire as a human kind of only come now unless
27:00
Speaker 3: you're just a sociopath or you feel like that was
27:04
Speaker 3: your calling, like historically in your family, some kind of
27:06
Speaker 3: lineage or something the most genuine. And I think the
27:10
Speaker 3: best people that I would want to answer that calling
27:13
Speaker 3: would be when they're like, it's fucking go time. I
27:16
Speaker 3: am doing this because we have to. It wouldn't necessarily
27:21
Speaker 3: be someone that believes in some like they're coming at
27:24
Speaker 3: any time narrative, because I don't necessarily think that person
27:27
Speaker 3: would be as good as it as the person who
27:31
Speaker 3: comes when their name is called. So it's kind of
27:33
Speaker 3: I feel like I catch on you too, as I
27:34
Speaker 3: understand needing to be prepared for that time, but getting
27:38
Speaker 3: there through the means of like propaganda and things that
27:42
Speaker 3: aren't necessarily the most genuine, you know what I mean.
27:45
Speaker 3: It's like almost like they need to level with people
27:47
Speaker 3: and be like, look, we fucked up a bunch. There's
27:50
Speaker 3: probably a lot of you that don't agree with a
27:52
Speaker 3: lot of stuff like Halliburton. We get it, but there
27:55
Speaker 3: are still a lot of wild things going on, and
27:57
Speaker 3: there are not enough people in the military right now.
28:00
Speaker 3: Like they can't say that, but I feel like that
28:02
Speaker 3: at this point in the way we communicate with each
28:04
Speaker 3: other and how weary people are of the truth and
28:07
Speaker 3: information and things like that, it's like, if you really,
28:10
Speaker 3: if we really need people in the military, like you
28:13
Speaker 3: just need to start leveling with people and not give them,
28:15
Speaker 3: serve them ads because we're all so jaded and younger,
28:19
Speaker 3: more able bodied people that you need jumping on this
28:23
Speaker 3: bandwagon that are the smartest. Because that was another thing
28:25
Speaker 3: they said. They were like, people can't pass the test
28:27
Speaker 3: to get in. That's like a problem they're having.
28:31
Speaker 2: I remember a time when the military, because I grew
28:34
Speaker 2: up poor and I remember a time when even for me,
28:38
Speaker 2: the military was kind of like an option.
28:41
Speaker 3: Oh always, that was always a thing in my back
28:44
Speaker 3: of my head.
28:44
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, but I feel like the military
28:48
Speaker 2: has kind of blown any sort of good will they
28:52
Speaker 2: had with young people in that way.
28:55
Speaker 3: Of how people again like they saw they have if
28:58
Speaker 3: Heaven forbid, you have like a older sibling or anyone
29:01
Speaker 3: in your family that went to Iraq or something like that,
29:04
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like there are people that
29:06
Speaker 3: already have real life experiences that could be like I'm
29:10
Speaker 3: good on your organization and me actually being a part
29:14
Speaker 3: of it, you know. Yeah, and it's voluntarily again not
29:18
Speaker 3: in like an extreme situation.
29:20
Speaker 2: It sucks that it's like one of the last few
29:24
Speaker 2: ways you have to like kind of guarantee you'll be
29:27
Speaker 2: able to retire or like have a pension or anything
29:30
Speaker 2: like that, like if you stay in the military long enough.
29:33
Speaker 3: And that was even in my age, that was what
29:35
Speaker 3: a lot of people. Not pension, but like this is
29:38
Speaker 3: the only way i can get through school. This is
29:40
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I'm doing it. I was
29:42
Speaker 3: a very much kind of seen as a do your
29:44
Speaker 3: time kind of thing, even if you did if you
29:46
Speaker 3: didn't do it, because it was like your family and
29:48
Speaker 3: you always wanted to like be on a boat because
29:51
Speaker 3: again it was like a lot of people that went
29:52
Speaker 3: to the Navy and stuff. But yeah, it was definitely
29:55
Speaker 3: the means to an end for a lot of people
29:57
Speaker 3: already in my generation, and so I think the younger
30:00
Speaker 3: generation coming up, there's just a lot less of them
30:02
Speaker 3: that feel like it's an option they want to explore
30:05
Speaker 3: at all.
30:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, and who can blame them?
30:08
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I was yelling during the podcast.
30:10
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'd like it makes sense that
30:13
Speaker 3: they wouldn't be coming there in droves. What are you
30:15
Speaker 3: talking about? Like, are you acting like you don't know why?
30:18
Speaker 2: All right, this next story listen. Not to paint cops
30:21
Speaker 2: in a bad light, but here goes. It's just always
30:24
Speaker 2: such a shock when cops reveal themselves to be corrupt
30:28
Speaker 2: pieces of shit, but it does happen sometimes. Case in
30:31
Speaker 2: point Peter Griffin, no relation, seventy eight. He's a cop
30:35
Speaker 2: who retired from the San Diego p D in two
30:37
Speaker 2: thousand and two. He was arrested and charged in connection
30:40
Speaker 2: with a scheme that exploited women to engage in commercial
30:44
Speaker 2: sexual services under the guise of offering massages. So he
30:50
Speaker 2: was running sex.
30:52
Speaker 3: Shops, okay, but it was like the massage part was
30:55
Speaker 3: like straight up afront, like it was like, ye, he
30:58
Speaker 3: was basically uh pen.
31:01
Speaker 2: I mean they'd probably give you a massage if you asked.
31:03
Speaker 2: I'm sure they were trained for that. It would be
31:06
Speaker 2: silly to like give them no massage training just like
31:10
Speaker 2: well no.
31:10
Speaker 3: Not so That's what I'm saying, Like, is it straight
31:13
Speaker 3: up off front, like these dudes or people think if
31:17
Speaker 3: ever is going in there know exactly what's up, or is.
31:19
Speaker 2: It you know, probably like half in half?
31:22
Speaker 3: No, I mean there's five of them. These these people
31:24
Speaker 3: have branches. Yeah, they owned, they franchised out.
31:29
Speaker 2: He had three other accomplices and they operated the following
31:33
Speaker 2: five businesses SPA Blue Green SPA, Maple SPA, Massage w ooh, classy,
31:41
Speaker 2: and Genie Oriental SPA. Okay, come on, that's I bet
31:46
Speaker 2: that's the one that was in Tempe, Arizona, because there's
31:50
Speaker 2: four of them that were in San Diego.
31:52
Speaker 3: In one was in that's a long like they're far
31:55
Speaker 3: away from each other. They straight up had like a map,
31:59
Speaker 3: Now that's these are our locations.
32:01
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's not a short commute. You could
32:04
Speaker 2: that's what.
32:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they weren't even trying to keep it closed.
32:07
Speaker 3: They were feeling real comfortable.
32:09
Speaker 2: You couldn't put one in Tustin or something, Kingmen, Arizona
32:13
Speaker 2: one of those places you passed through on the train.
32:16
Speaker 3: And does it say anything about the women, and especially
32:20
Speaker 3: because like you said, he was a police officer, like
32:23
Speaker 3: they definitely, I'm sure we're threatened with being arrested for
32:28
Speaker 3: legal doings, like if they were to want to not
32:31
Speaker 3: do that, you know.
32:32
Speaker 2: Yes, stories like this often leave that part out. Who
32:36
Speaker 2: were these girls and where did they come from?
32:39
Speaker 3: Where are they now? Yeah? Like who are these women?
32:42
Speaker 2: Because I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was getting
32:45
Speaker 2: up to a little more than just running massage parlors
32:50
Speaker 2: where you could pay for sex, Like I wouldn't get.
32:53
Speaker 3: Because did these women go home? Did they live in
32:56
Speaker 3: these places? They don't really talk about that. They just
32:58
Speaker 3: say that he pled guilty.
33:00
Speaker 2: Yeah. And one of the ways that we know workers
33:04
Speaker 2: are abused and trafficked in this country way too much
33:08
Speaker 2: is on work visas like j one visas, things like that,
33:13
Speaker 2: and not like not everyone obviously here on a work
33:16
Speaker 2: visa is in that situation. But you do read stories
33:20
Speaker 2: of like fucking McDonald's franchise owners who will take advantage
33:25
Speaker 2: of yeah, and they'll like take people's passports when they
33:29
Speaker 2: get here, take their wages, Like, before you really know
33:32
Speaker 2: what's up as a person in a new country, you're
33:36
Speaker 2: basically tricked into indentured servitude, right, And I gotta wonder
33:41
Speaker 2: if any of that was happening here because there are
33:44
Speaker 2: three other accomplices in this and it says they were
33:49
Speaker 2: recruiting women, which could just be regular ass sex work,
33:53
Speaker 2: which fine, but it wouldn't shock.
33:58
Speaker 3: And not I mean Internet. And even then you're still
34:02
Speaker 3: at some point you have to either being engaging in
34:05
Speaker 3: their services yourself, Like how are you stumbling upon enough
34:08
Speaker 3: sex workers to operate five different businesses? Yeah, like you
34:13
Speaker 3: know what I mean in.
34:14
Speaker 2: Tempy, Arizona. And the twist here is that when he
34:19
Speaker 2: was a cop, Peter Griffin worked as a detective with
34:21
Speaker 2: the Vice Operations Unit in San Diego, and he specialized
34:26
Speaker 2: in dismantling illicit massage parlors. So he basically.
34:31
Speaker 3: Aka where he got all of his ideas.
34:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, he literally took what he learned doing Yeah, and
34:38
Speaker 2: in retirement opened up a bunch of massage parlors and
34:43
Speaker 2: literally used what he knew to teach everyone how to
34:47
Speaker 2: evade to create.
34:48
Speaker 3: A nest egg.
34:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, and somehow finally got caught at the five years,
34:56
Speaker 2: at the age of seventy eight, he got.
34:58
Speaker 3: That's a long time. He lived off of the work
35:02
Speaker 3: of these women for two decades half a decade.
35:07
Speaker 2: What, No, he started this in two Well he retired
35:10
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two.
35:11
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna ask. Was he doing it
35:13
Speaker 3: the whole time or did he start when he retired? Well?
35:16
Speaker 3: Does it not? Really?
35:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're not clear because they say you're retired
35:21
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two, right, but that he's definitely
35:24
Speaker 2: been running these businesses.
35:26
Speaker 3: These five at least since twenty thirteen, right.
35:29
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, I'm sure there was some kind of
35:31
Speaker 2: lag where he had He probably had to go out
35:34
Speaker 2: to these businesses, like, hey, remember when I sent you
35:37
Speaker 2: to jail.
35:37
Speaker 3: And that's what I was thinking about recruiting. It's like
35:40
Speaker 3: that's his entire base. He spent a whole you know
35:45
Speaker 3: what I mean, career building a roster of a community
35:50
Speaker 3: of people that he knows or know him. And if
35:54
Speaker 3: they know that he's sisty or like, you know what
35:57
Speaker 3: I mean. It's like you think someone that does sex
35:59
Speaker 3: work and San Diego doesn't know a dirty cop that's
36:02
Speaker 3: cool with what they do, you know what I mean?
36:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that being a possibility too, that
36:07
Speaker 2: he just more extorted these places.
36:10
Speaker 3: Yes, like it's like training day, but with massage parlors.
36:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he would know what to look for. Having
36:15
Speaker 2: been a cop who shut these.
36:17
Speaker 3: Places, he's like got pro Yeah, so.
36:19
Speaker 2: He could just go in and be like, all right,
36:21
Speaker 2: I'm not a cop anymore, but I can send some
36:24
Speaker 2: cops here.
36:25
Speaker 3: Exactly, I still have friends. Yeah, let me get either
36:30
Speaker 3: get a cut of existing ones or like you said,
36:32
Speaker 3: open all these other ones with these other people.
36:35
Speaker 2: Yeah.
36:36
Speaker 3: Wow. So I mean, I'm glad they caught him, but
36:39
Speaker 3: we'll see what he actually does. Or again, like you said,
36:42
Speaker 3: if we hear anything about five massage parlors worth of
36:46
Speaker 3: victims slash women sex workers, depending on if they were
36:50
Speaker 3: there of their own volition or not, and like what
36:52
Speaker 3: is happening with them? Yeah, like was there a raid?
36:55
Speaker 3: What's going on?
36:57
Speaker 2: Yeah? Where are they? Mm hmmm. And yeah, he's facing
37:00
Speaker 2: a maximum of thirty years in prison for his crimes,
37:03
Speaker 2: which at the age of seventy eight, that's yeah, he's
37:05
Speaker 2: not going to get thirty years, that's for.
37:07
Speaker 3: Dame, I'm sure. Oh no, they're going to try to
37:09
Speaker 3: tell him that he's too old to go at all.
37:10
Speaker 3: I'm sure they went and got him a walker, like
37:13
Speaker 3: the second he got combitioned.
37:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll get time served. All right. Let's talk some
37:20
Speaker 2: election news.
37:22
Speaker 3: Oh boy, j R.
37:24
Speaker 2: Mashewski, Oh, this guy is running for office again. I
37:29
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm pronouncing his name right. I want
37:31
Speaker 2: it to be pronounced Majuski because I know he would
37:34
Speaker 2: hate that as a staunch right winger. But it looks
37:38
Speaker 2: like Mischevski to me, based on my knowledge of Duke's
37:42
Speaker 2: longtime basketball coach. Okay, Mike Krzyzewski. That name used to
37:46
Speaker 2: fuck me up as a kid. They would talk about
37:50
Speaker 2: Mike Krzyzewski, and then I'd see that name and be like,
37:52
Speaker 2: who's this guy?
37:53
Speaker 3: And why don't they those are not the same thing.
37:55
Speaker 2: Why don't they ever talk about Mike Krzyzewski in the newspapers?
38:00
Speaker 2: J R. Mschewsky, we talked about him on an episode
38:03
Speaker 2: of On Pops about the biggest pieces of shit running
38:07
Speaker 2: for Congress in twenty twenty two. He lost, just like
38:11
Speaker 2: a lot of maga chuds did in the twenty twenty
38:14
Speaker 2: mid terms. But good news he's not given up. He
38:16
Speaker 2: has already announced that he's running for Congress again. This
38:21
Speaker 2: is a quote. This campaign is about the working class
38:23
Speaker 2: citizens of Ohio. This campaign is about putting America first.
38:27
Speaker 2: This campaign is about fighting for you. Last cycle, we
38:31
Speaker 2: started a movement. This cycle, we win. No, this campaign
38:34
Speaker 2: is about me getting to talk about his rap verse
38:38
Speaker 2: on this song again.
38:41
Speaker 3: Wait well, oh the rapper that he made friends with
38:45
Speaker 3: let him on the song.
38:47
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you haven't listened to this yet.
38:49
Speaker 3: No, I have not listened to this song.
38:53
Speaker 2: He's on this song. There's this pro maga rapper named
38:58
Speaker 2: Forgiato Blow.
39:00
Speaker 3: Oh okay, who.
39:01
Speaker 2: Is a fucking scam. He even in interviews, has said,
39:05
Speaker 2: I didn't start talking about politics until twenty sixteen.
39:09
Speaker 3: Like before that where Giato Blows sounds like a website
39:14
Speaker 3: and an energy drink had a baby like what.
39:18
Speaker 2: Yeah it does? And yeah, j R. Mitschewsky. He was
39:21
Speaker 2: at the Capitol riot. But he's not accused of doing anything.
39:24
Speaker 1: M hm.
39:24
Speaker 3: So you're just hanging out.
39:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like, how much of a patriot are you? Buddy?
39:28
Speaker 2: He at one point before he ran for Congress, he
39:30
Speaker 2: made the entirety of his front lawn into a Trump banner.
39:35
Speaker 2: He's got this weird triangle shaped lawn, but we'll link
39:38
Speaker 2: to it, not the lawn, but pictures of it. He's
39:41
Speaker 2: also QAnon adherent.
39:44
Speaker 3: His bullet points are why, like he really hits them all, Like.
39:48
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he checks all the fucking boxes, including the
39:52
Speaker 2: part where he probably lied about his military record.
39:55
Speaker 3: Also, Yo, that's my favorite one. It's the most fun one. Yeah,
40:01
Speaker 3: I feel like he should be leaning into this more.
40:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could have just said he served in the
40:07
Speaker 2: air Force. Also true because he did well, he just
40:10
Speaker 2: wasn't in Afghanistan like he says, yeah.
40:13
Speaker 3: He was in Qatar. But then it's so funny and
40:16
Speaker 3: also something that I feel like I've experienced being from
40:19
Speaker 3: a military town where people come back and you're like,
40:22
Speaker 3: you didn't go there because you were there with so
40:25
Speaker 3: and so that I know, and they would be like, oh, well,
40:27
Speaker 3: you can't even really see that stuff anyway. The stuff
40:29
Speaker 3: that I did is like super classified, and you're like,
40:32
Speaker 3: no one that does stuff that's classified talks about it
40:34
Speaker 3: being classified, Like you wouldn't be able to see my
40:37
Speaker 3: record anyway, because it sealed, like you know, many people
40:41
Speaker 3: were over there, Sir and they're gonna seal like you
40:44
Speaker 3: were you were that high up.
40:46
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah we could foia that shit. The government doesn't.
40:50
Speaker 3: Care about gosh.
40:52
Speaker 2: But without a doubt, his most embarrassing moment is his
40:55
Speaker 2: verse on this song.
40:57
Speaker 3: Oh god, wait, is this verse embarrassing than the fact
41:01
Speaker 3: that they said he got demoted for driving drunk on bass? Okay,
41:07
Speaker 3: fair enough.
41:08
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right.
41:09
Speaker 3: I haven't heard the verse yet. But it's like to lie,
41:12
Speaker 3: to be like I was here and be like, not
41:14
Speaker 3: only were you not there, you were demoted for just
41:17
Speaker 3: like having too many bud lights on base and getting
41:22
Speaker 3: in a cruiser or like, but you're right, I haven't
41:25
Speaker 3: heard this song yet. And I also a part of
41:27
Speaker 3: me almost feels bad or does kind of feel bad
41:31
Speaker 3: for certain members of the RNC, because I was listening
41:34
Speaker 3: to a thing where they were basically like they're divided
41:38
Speaker 3: amongst like all of these people who Trump has kind
41:43
Speaker 3: of made his people, but they all keep losing, and
41:46
Speaker 3: they're like they're making us look bad because they keep
41:51
Speaker 3: people that lost and have been like this guy like
41:53
Speaker 3: he lost, he lied and he's like, let's do it again,
41:57
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh my god, stop it like emberanced.
42:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that he managed to win that primary last year.
42:05
Speaker 2: Is what's so crazy? Like he won that, but he
42:08
Speaker 2: didn't win his election.
42:09
Speaker 3: And what do you think it was because the other
42:11
Speaker 3: person was so old? Probably like tired of them because
42:14
Speaker 3: they had been around for so long, because I read
42:16
Speaker 3: that they had been around.
42:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. Let's listen to this verse from
42:20
Speaker 2: the song Let's go Brandon, huh get it all right?
42:25
Speaker 2: Here we go.
42:26
Speaker 1: Bble can force us to get the vents I think
42:28
Speaker 1: pictures with the Bolble get us to offer not have
42:31
Speaker 1: a fun at dementia.
42:32
Speaker 3: It's a serious disease. But come on, man, squeeze your
42:35
Speaker 3: cheese when you sneeze.
42:37
Speaker 2: Joe's focused on ice cream while he's crapping his pants.
42:40
Speaker 2: We want our dreams in our freedom.
42:41
Speaker 1: This is our last change.
42:43
Speaker 3: Let's miss the hell we die on.
42:44
Speaker 2: This is the line in the Seine, on the battlefield United.
42:48
Speaker 2: We stand, We stayed, did we all? We need to
42:51
Speaker 2: finish the ball.
42:52
Speaker 3: They want to raise all our textes.
42:54
Speaker 2: We've done with them all.
42:55
Speaker 3: Rendezvoul with destiny to take the twenty to just try
42:58
Speaker 3: to put a mask on the you'll see red.
43:03
Speaker 2: Let's go Brandon's a hit hit.
43:05
Speaker 3: Oh man, Wait, but that wasn't him rapping? Was it?
43:09
Speaker 3: That was the other guy?
43:10
Speaker 2: No, it was him. Now the other guy isn't good,
43:14
Speaker 2: but you can tell he's like I would ever.
43:18
Speaker 3: Seeing he sounds that was this.
43:21
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah j R. That was ja.
43:24
Speaker 3: It doesn't even sound like his voice.
43:28
Speaker 2: It's probably not like I don't know.
43:31
Speaker 3: I have to hear this guy say anything else and
43:35
Speaker 3: see if that's I just didn't think that anything about
43:38
Speaker 3: that was gonna be his voice, even how southern it sounds.
43:42
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that blew my mind.
43:45
Speaker 2: Let's hear him talk and I'm sorry. I'll never apologized
43:55
Speaker 2: for having the will to fight for all three.
44:00
Speaker 3: Sound what I would think he would sound like that?
44:03
Speaker 2: He said, I'm sorry, Joe Biden, but I'll never apologize
44:08
Speaker 2: like you just you just.
44:10
Speaker 3: Apolog It sounds like more would I. That is not
44:13
Speaker 3: him rapping. I mean, I want to listen to this
44:17
Speaker 3: whole song again. That's that's not the four loco guy.
44:22
Speaker 2: No, it's it's not Oh my gosh wild, that's just
44:27
Speaker 2: his verse for me.
44:28
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, editing software is magical. He thought that was
44:34
Speaker 3: going to be way worse, Like lyrically but he's like.
44:37
Speaker 2: The opposite of flow. Like it's like, the way he
44:41
Speaker 2: says me is that you're not supposed to.
44:47
Speaker 3: Rhyme. It didn't rhyme as little as I was expecting
44:51
Speaker 3: it to. That's what I mean. I thought it was
44:53
Speaker 3: they were right the fact that it because at first
44:56
Speaker 3: it didn't rhyme at all, and I was like, oh god,
44:57
Speaker 3: I'm not even going to be able to follow this,
44:59
Speaker 3: and then it I kind of had any kind of
45:01
Speaker 3: rhythm to it, and I was like, Okay, I'm like
45:03
Speaker 3: laughing at all this stuff you're saying, but like, okay, there.
45:07
Speaker 2: Are like one hundred and fifty versions of that Let's
45:09
Speaker 2: go Brandon's song. Wow, it's bad times. It's bad times. Yeah,
45:14
Speaker 2: we should do a whole Forgiado blow episode. I mean
45:17
Speaker 2: we should, YadA should?
45:19
Speaker 3: What is a Forgiado? No? It also makes me a
45:23
Speaker 3: little hungry because it sounds like gelato.
45:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds tasty. It sounds like a sandwich or something.
45:28
Speaker 3: Because also there there's four Siado rims. Is that why
45:33
Speaker 3: he's named that?
45:35
Speaker 2: Almost certainly, yeah, because he was absolutely that kind of
45:40
Speaker 2: rapper before he made one pro Trump song.
45:43
Speaker 3: And stopple, Oh my god.
45:47
Speaker 2: Like all his videos before that he had like stacks
45:50
Speaker 2: of cash and of employees he was selling drugs, and
45:54
Speaker 2: that he was a criminal. And then he does one
45:57
Speaker 2: pro Trump song and everyone looks loved it.
46:00
Speaker 3: For everyone who can see, he looks kind of like
46:03
Speaker 3: if you put Paul Wall in post malone in a blender. Yeah,
46:09
Speaker 3: he kind of looks like them put together.
46:10
Speaker 2: But he also seems like he's kind of huge, Like
46:13
Speaker 2: he seems like a big dude.
46:14
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, Paul Wall actually looks great now,
46:17
Speaker 3: but Paul you know what I he is a little
46:19
Speaker 3: bit bigger than Paul Wall. And I would never want
46:22
Speaker 3: to disparage this person's name either, because I do love
46:25
Speaker 3: Paul Wall. But he does look a little like a
46:27
Speaker 3: mean Bubba Sparks. But I love botha Sparks.
46:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, let's keep talking about the election. Okay, Arizona
46:36
Speaker 2: is going to be crazy. It was crazy last time
46:39
Speaker 2: Carrie Lake was running. She still thinks she's running. This
46:43
Speaker 2: is this guy doing this? Guy Mark Lamb. He is
46:47
Speaker 2: a Conservative who's running for Kristen Cinema's seat in the
46:51
Speaker 2: US Senate. She is a Democrat. Air quotes around that
46:56
Speaker 2: who is running as an independent this time. So Mark
47:01
Speaker 2: Lamb is running as the Republican challenger. He's the first
47:06
Speaker 2: kind of big name to announce. He's the fifty year
47:09
Speaker 2: old sheriff of p Now County near Phoenix, big fan
47:13
Speaker 2: of militias. He formed a civilian posse to suppress lawlessness
47:18
Speaker 2: in the wake of the murder of George Floyd in
47:22
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. So he's that kind of share like us.
47:25
Speaker 3: This a scary version of the Guardian Angels.
47:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's aligned with a fringe movement called constitutional Sheriffs.
47:35
Speaker 2: I had never heard of this. This is fascinating and terrifying.
47:39
Speaker 2: The constitutional sheriff movement is of the belief that sheriffs
47:44
Speaker 2: are the supreme constitutional authorities in their jurisdictions.
47:49
Speaker 3: It's so funny because that's exactly what I was.
47:51
Speaker 1: Like.
47:51
Speaker 3: Constitutional sheriff in itself is like not oxymoronic, but like
47:57
Speaker 3: they never get realized, you know what I mean, Like
47:59
Speaker 3: the yours as an entity as of someone who comes
48:02
Speaker 3: from a place with sheriffs, it's like they're messy as
48:06
Speaker 3: an existence. Yes, the way that they come to be sheriffs.
48:11
Speaker 3: So to consider yourself a constitutional sheriff is like, oh boy,
48:15
Speaker 3: here we go, and.
48:17
Speaker 2: They because they believe they are the supreme authority in
48:20
Speaker 2: their given area, they feel like they can pick and
48:23
Speaker 2: choose what laws they do and don't want to enforce.
48:28
Speaker 3: Oh, which is the problem with sheriffs.
48:30
Speaker 2: And if you can believe it, a lot of the
48:32
Speaker 2: stuff they decide not to enforce is you know, gun
48:37
Speaker 2: restrictions or COVID mandates, things like that, your right wing stuff.
48:43
Speaker 2: But Lamb has tried to sort of distance himself from
48:47
Speaker 2: this movement and now aligns with the Protect America Now movement,
48:52
Speaker 2: which just claims to put everyone's concerns at ease. Sheriffs
48:56
Speaker 2: are the country's last line of defense against an overreaching
49:01
Speaker 2: government that wants to make America less safe, less secure,
49:05
Speaker 2: and less free.
49:06
Speaker 3: Did you mention the subscription part?
49:09
Speaker 2: Wait? Which part? Did I miss?
49:10
Speaker 3: That? The for Protect America Now. He invites other patriots
49:19
Speaker 3: to join for just seventeen dollars and seventy six cents
49:22
Speaker 3: a month.
49:23
Speaker 2: Oh that's right?
49:25
Speaker 3: What is that?
49:26
Speaker 2: Yeah? For one thing that's want you.
49:29
Speaker 3: He wants you to smash that leg and subscribe also
49:32
Speaker 3: while he runs or is that him like raising funds?
49:36
Speaker 3: Like what?
49:37
Speaker 2: Well? Probably both, but like I bet it's not nearly
49:40
Speaker 2: the value like subscribing to the un pops network would be.
49:44
Speaker 2: I bet he doesn't do that.
49:45
Speaker 3: Was perfect, thank you.
49:47
Speaker 2: Yeah for just seventeen seventy five. You can subscribe to
49:53
Speaker 2: un pops.
49:54
Speaker 3: Save that penny.
49:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that part. I did read that.
49:58
Speaker 3: Yeah what sorry, I'm a mark major. It stuck out
50:01
Speaker 3: to me. I was like, wow, all right, and he's
50:03
Speaker 3: tagging on a subscription plan.
50:05
Speaker 2: Okay, did you look at his Twitter. His avatar is
50:09
Speaker 2: just him draped in a flag. It's like, you're not supposed.
50:12
Speaker 3: To like a patriotic version of a maternity shoot. Like
50:15
Speaker 3: he's just like in like a beautiful field somewhere.
50:18
Speaker 2: Not supposed to do that with the flag.
50:21
Speaker 3: Man. You can do a lot of things with the
50:24
Speaker 3: flag as long as you yell certain things while you
50:31
Speaker 3: do it, Like you can wear like a rebel flag
50:34
Speaker 3: bikini if you're in the right place, Like that's not
50:36
Speaker 3: defiling anything. Like you can literally use a flag as
50:40
Speaker 3: butt floss, but it is not as bad as like
50:45
Speaker 3: not standing up for it in other places.
50:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so yeah, he's running on a God Freedom
50:52
Speaker 2: Family agenda, which sounds like a Johnny cash box set.
50:56
Speaker 3: The new liv left love.
50:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he calls himself quote a conservative fighter who
51:03
Speaker 2: will confront the woke left and the weak politicians in Washington.
51:09
Speaker 3: It's not funny because I feel like, and I will
51:11
Speaker 3: say this in general for both sides and all kinds
51:15
Speaker 3: of politicians, is I feel like there is a gen
51:18
Speaker 3: It's like not generational, but the comparison is generational, where
51:23
Speaker 3: it's like new people in politics will be like, uh,
51:26
Speaker 3: these people are so lazy and lame and this is
51:28
Speaker 3: so easy to fix it. And they really just haven't
51:31
Speaker 3: been bought or beaten down or ravaged by politics yet.
51:37
Speaker 3: And it's like even when I read those and I'm
51:39
Speaker 3: not saying that they're right, I don't agree with pretty
51:42
Speaker 3: much anything that goes on nowadays, but they're weak because
51:45
Speaker 3: they're tired. Yeah, Like they're tired. And it is damn
51:51
Speaker 3: near impossible to get all of these like there are
51:55
Speaker 3: a lot of moronic people at this point on the
51:57
Speaker 3: same page. Like it is draining trying to discuss things
52:01
Speaker 3: with people just on a small scale, So trying to
52:05
Speaker 3: make consensus for things that affect hundreds of thousands and
52:09
Speaker 3: millions of people every day, Like regardless of what you
52:14
Speaker 3: think your ego is going in like that's the thing
52:17
Speaker 3: that seems so and it is, I guess their ignorance
52:20
Speaker 3: and ego, but like, we have been at this for
52:23
Speaker 3: so long for you to truly think that you were
52:26
Speaker 3: gonna come in and steamroll anyone is just like, how
52:30
Speaker 3: could that possibly How could you possibly think you're gonna
52:32
Speaker 3: be the one. There's a mountain of bodies underneath you
52:36
Speaker 3: and you're just climbing off where all of those bodies
52:39
Speaker 3: being like, none of those people have the one thing
52:42
Speaker 3: that I have. I doubt that so highly, you.
52:45
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, especially like characters like this, I feel like,
52:50
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, this guy just wants
52:52
Speaker 2: a TV show, like he wants to be a TV
52:54
Speaker 2: judge someday.
52:55
Speaker 3: M and he's still gonna wear that hat.
52:58
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, That'll be the law of his court. Everyone
53:02
Speaker 2: has to wear that hat like British.
53:04
Speaker 3: Court, William Family Judge Lamb. That's what it's gonna be.
53:08
Speaker 3: I can't wait.
53:10
Speaker 2: I won't watch it.
53:12
Speaker 3: I'll watch clips though when they come across my screen.
53:15
Speaker 2: Here is a quote from Democrat Reuben Gego, who is
53:19
Speaker 2: opposing Mark Lamb in this election. Arizonans deserve serious candidates
53:24
Speaker 2: who respect our democracy and rule of law. Luckily, there's
53:28
Speaker 2: still plenty of time for the GOP to produce.
53:30
Speaker 3: One ooh sick burn.
53:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, Democrats definitely have better joke writers. That's a constant.
53:41
Speaker 3: But to what I was listening to in interviews with
53:44
Speaker 3: people at the R and C, there are people on
53:46
Speaker 3: their own side that feel that way, that are like,
53:49
Speaker 3: we are literally scrambling and hoping that we will get
53:53
Speaker 3: people voted in for some of these seats that we
53:56
Speaker 3: think make us look less insane.
53:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
54:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, ooh it's rough out there, man, Sure.
54:03
Speaker 2: Is bad time to be a politician.
54:06
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
54:07
Speaker 2: All right, last story, Katrina, what's your parlor handle?
54:10
Speaker 3: What on parlor? No? Because what is this one? Truth social?
54:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of like truth social.
54:19
Speaker 3: It was like a sa it sounds sexy. That's why
54:21
Speaker 3: I perked up that way. I was like, like a
54:22
Speaker 3: only fan. Parlor sounds like you get to come on it. Yeah,
54:26
Speaker 3: parlor sounds hot and it's just angry.
54:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a Twitter clone for right wingers.
54:33
Speaker 3: It's like, I didn't come here to bicker. I came
54:35
Speaker 3: to get a boner. Parlor sounds way cooler than that.
54:38
Speaker 2: It's owned by that Peter Griffin guy, the cop from
54:41
Speaker 2: San Diego. Oh my god.
54:43
Speaker 3: If you think he's not trying to snatch this domain up,
54:47
Speaker 3: he's like using his internal calls like get on, go
54:50
Speaker 3: daddy the second that shit goes down.
54:54
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's good that neither of us ever joined Parlor,
54:57
Speaker 2: because it would have sucked to invest all that time
54:59
Speaker 2: in it just to have it all shut down with
55:02
Speaker 2: zero notice.
55:03
Speaker 3: Ah, what happened? Why?
55:05
Speaker 2: Well, what happened? This is one of those trap stories
55:09
Speaker 2: where you see the headline and then you read just
55:13
Speaker 2: enough to think, oh, I'm gonna post this on Twitter
55:16
Speaker 2: with some laughing emojis, because this is a funny thing
55:18
Speaker 2: that happened to conservatives. What happened is a new owner
55:22
Speaker 2: bought Parlor, a company called Starboard, and they announced that
55:27
Speaker 2: they had acquired it, and on the same day, in
55:30
Speaker 2: the same press release, announced that they were shutting it down.
55:34
Speaker 2: And if you visit parlor dot com right now, you'll
55:39
Speaker 2: just see a really long letter from the new ownership
55:42
Speaker 2: of that company. And the only part that a lot
55:45
Speaker 2: of outlets that are reporting this are bothering to mention
55:49
Speaker 2: is the part where it says no reasonable person believes
55:53
Speaker 2: that a Twitter clone just for conservatives is a viable
55:58
Speaker 2: business anymore.
56:00
Speaker 3: Like they're saying, it's a straight up business decision.
56:02
Speaker 2: Right, And I think it's going to be tempting for
56:06
Speaker 2: people to just read that far and be like, hmm,
56:09
Speaker 2: shows those fucking conservatives, right, But no, you're right, this
56:12
Speaker 2: is a business decision. It's not. There's nothing in their
56:15
Speaker 2: statement that's anti conservative at all. If you read the
56:20
Speaker 2: whole statement. It goes on to one praise former Parlor
56:25
Speaker 2: CEO George Farmer for the different moves he made with
56:29
Speaker 2: the company, and it also adds quote, we focus on
56:33
Speaker 2: working with groups that are advocating for or otherwise advancing
56:38
Speaker 2: conservative causes or conservative beliefs.
56:44
Speaker 3: So the real thing, that's how they're focused. Like he
56:47
Speaker 3: didn't buy it to he didn't buy it because he
56:51
Speaker 3: to do away with it.
56:53
Speaker 2: No, he's just going to bring back a bigger don't.
56:55
Speaker 3: Try to make a version of it that is lucrative.
56:58
Speaker 2: That's lucrative, and that yeah.
57:00
Speaker 3: Legs where they were going, right. But it's funny because
57:03
Speaker 3: underneath I have do you have that? Where it says
57:06
Speaker 3: see also trump back true Social allegedly owes one point
57:10
Speaker 3: six million and unpaid hosting fees.
57:12
Speaker 2: Oh I did not see that, but that does.
57:14
Speaker 3: It's like that's like a related article for me, which
57:18
Speaker 3: it's just makes me laugh because it's like two paragraphs
57:21
Speaker 3: underneath him saying it's not viable.
57:23
Speaker 2: That's so much in hosting fees. Yeah, ah, like I've
57:29
Speaker 2: I've been hosting stuff on the Internet forever.
57:32
Speaker 3: What if I just secret if you racked them up fast?
57:35
Speaker 2: Yeah? What if I just don't even realize that. I like, oh,
57:38
Speaker 2: go down four point six million?
57:40
Speaker 3: I say, it's like I also host things, and it's like, yeah,
57:45
Speaker 3: what app just gonna How many versions of your domain
57:49
Speaker 3: are you buying? Do they have so that other people
57:52
Speaker 3: don't buy them? Maybe like you're paying tho hosting fees
57:55
Speaker 3: of a bunch of sites just so they all direct
57:57
Speaker 3: to one. Sorry, I'm getting way too into the weeds
57:59
Speaker 3: with this.
58:01
Speaker 2: So yeah, don't get excited about parlor getting shut down.
58:04
Speaker 2: I think that's our episode, right, It seems like we
58:07
Speaker 2: get it.
58:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel good about these. I feel
58:12
Speaker 3: I'm the most excited about further developments with UFOs and
58:18
Speaker 3: for Giato Blow. I'm really excited to see what happens
58:21
Speaker 3: with his next LP.
58:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got we got to get him to LA
58:25
Speaker 2: to do a show.
58:26
Speaker 3: No, we don't. You're right, it's so silly. Thank you
58:33
Speaker 3: so much.
58:33
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you for doing it. What do you have
58:35
Speaker 2: to plug before we get out of here?
58:37
Speaker 3: Yeah? Ooh, let's see when does this come out?
58:39
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter tomorrow.
58:41
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, so then it does kind of matter. Yeah.
58:46
Speaker 3: My name's Katrina.
58:47
Speaker 1: Hi.
58:48
Speaker 3: If you want, if you thought any of my observations
58:52
Speaker 3: were giggle worthy enough that you would like to hear
58:54
Speaker 3: me tell jokes, you can follow me at Katrina Savad.
58:58
Speaker 3: It's s I V. A. D. It's just Davis backwards.
59:01
Speaker 3: But I'll be in La telling jokes this weekend. I
59:06
Speaker 3: will be at jet backup our luggage on Friday, and
59:09
Speaker 3: I'm doing a fundraiser show on Saturday for a public
59:14
Speaker 3: school near me in the valley. So if you want
59:19
Speaker 3: to come laugh for a good cause this weekend, or
59:22
Speaker 3: live in Hollywood, or want to come to the lyric
59:26
Speaker 3: at some point in the next week or so, follow
59:30
Speaker 3: me and I'll post about them.
59:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, do that. We're also doing a constitutional sheriffs fundraiser.
59:36
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh my god, No, they're sheriffs they can
59:40
Speaker 3: just take anything they want.
59:42
Speaker 2: They can just get the money they need out of
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Speaker 2: the evidence room, do whatever they want. Adam Toddbrown dot
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Speaker 2: substack dot com. I will be back to updating that
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Speaker 2: very soon. In the meantime, you can read a bunch
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Speaker 2: of back stuff that's behind the paywall, and.
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Speaker 3: Uh go read back on the substack.
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Speaker 2: Yeah right, we're gonna stamp that at the top. Uh
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Speaker 2: and uh, I think that's it for now. We got
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Speaker 2: some things to announce with the network coming up soon
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Speaker 2: but later later.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the.
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Speaker 2: Meantime, let's get the funk out of here. Katrina us
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Speaker 2: say goodbye, yaybye, goodbye everybody. We love you. People have
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Speaker 2: every