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Cliff Notes: EYL, Radio Row Interviews at The BET Awards · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 2: All right, Eyl Queen Naja, thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Yeah, for sure. So my first question
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  Speaker 2: is how has this journey been for you. I know
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  Speaker 2: it's been a short period of time, but it's been
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  Speaker 2: a long period of time as well. So you now
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  Speaker 2: you're an a list, everybody knows you, everybody loves your music.
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  Speaker 2: Is it still moments where it's kind of surreal to you?
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  Speaker 2: Or are you, like fully caught up in a moment
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I never really get to basket the moment. I'm
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  Speaker 4: trying to learn how to, So I can't say it's
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  Speaker 4: really surreal because like just not right now, Like it's
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  Speaker 4: a blessing, but I'm trying to learn how to just
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  Speaker 4: I'm always like Russian, Russian, Russian everywhere, but I never
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  Speaker 4: really just get to like bask in a moment.
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  Speaker 3: But it's been a it's been a journey. I feel like.
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  Speaker 4: It's been a time where I was super down. I
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  Speaker 4: thought everybody forgot about me. But now I'm back here
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  Speaker 4: again and I just bounce back and I'm happy. So
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  Speaker 4: it's a blessing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, So this weekend you're presenting at the Awards. Obviously
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  Speaker 6: Mary is performing. I know that you're a part of
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  Speaker 6: the tour.
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  Speaker 5: He talked about heart and influence and what it means
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  Speaker 5: to be a part of it. Mary, Yeah, marry' Jay.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, the first song that I ever sang
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  Speaker 4: that came out of my mouth was You're All I
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  Speaker 4: Need to get by with methad Man. I was three
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  Speaker 4: years old, and it's really full circle to just be
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  Speaker 4: in this same First of all, I'm going on tour her. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm really really excited and I feel like if
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  Speaker 4: she can see something to me to share her stage,
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  Speaker 4: then I'm gonna be around here for a minute.
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  Speaker 7: They don't name Nia, so I was looking at of
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  Speaker 7: it basically translates to like the new Nigeria you understand
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  Speaker 7: me or the music of Niga. Do you find Nigerians
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  Speaker 7: or people out there in Africa tap in with your music?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? So my first name is Queen.
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  Speaker 4: My middle name is Naja, and it has nothing to
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  Speaker 4: do with Nigeria, and a lot of people get that
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  Speaker 4: mixed up. My name is Naja because my father's name
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  Speaker 4: was my father's from Yemen, his name was Mohammed Nijeb
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  Speaker 4: and my mom just instead of she put an a
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  Speaker 4: on the end, So Naija and Niji. So a lot
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  Speaker 4: of time, the way she spelled it was like the
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  Speaker 4: Nigerian and I didn't learn that until like on Twitter recently.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it has nothing.
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  Speaker 4: To do in Nigeria, but I think it does work
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  Speaker 4: for me because like when they see my name, they
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  Speaker 4: gravitate towards me, and I love Nigerian artists.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't been there, but if it works for me,
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  Speaker 3: it just worked with me.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like it's on a job training when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to success, and especially the music business, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people make mistakes because there's no blueprint
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  Speaker 2: or there's no roadmap to follow. So learning the business
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  Speaker 2: side of it, how has that been for you? Have
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  Speaker 2: you had mentors that's like teaching you the dudes a adults?
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  Speaker 2: Is it just like experience? How have you learned the
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  Speaker 2: business side of music?
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  Speaker 8: Well?
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  Speaker 4: I was blessed to have a really really good support
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  Speaker 4: system around me, like a small, solid circle, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: learning from that circle. I didn't know a lot coming
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  Speaker 4: to I mean, I didn't know nothing coming to the industry, honestly.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm still learning as I go.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of things I've had learning experiences where
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  Speaker 4: you have to experience something bad first and then learn
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  Speaker 4: from it. So that's just like an everyday thing with me.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm still learning.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So one of the things, especially in business and obviously
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  Speaker 6: in music, it is collaboration. What's the process like for
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  Speaker 6: you when you're looking for somebody to collaborate with? Obviously
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  Speaker 6: we know the dirt and I've been showing record is incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: What's that process, like when you're trying to collab with somebody.
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  Speaker 4: So usually like I'll all right, Usually i'll build. I'll build, sorry,
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  Speaker 4: build beats from scratch. But if I don't. If I
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  Speaker 4: like a song, regardless if I building or not from scratch,
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  Speaker 4: I think of a concept to it, I'll go mumble
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  Speaker 4: and like some cadences, and then I'll create the words
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  Speaker 4: and I'll say, oh, this person would sound really good
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  Speaker 4: on this song, Like I can hear the voices on there.
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  Speaker 5: You're making the record yourself, you're producing it.
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  Speaker 3: You can say I'm part I'm partially producing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't press the buttons, but I tell them, use
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  Speaker 4: this instrument, make this beat, make this cadence. I just
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  Speaker 4: don't know how to do all the technical stuff, but
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  Speaker 4: I know what I want when it comes to music,
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  Speaker 4: and I have a really really good ear for it.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, and then I just get the whoever I want.
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  Speaker 4: I DM them. I don't really have to label do
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  Speaker 4: stuff because I like for it to be genuine, you know.
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  Speaker 4: But if I don't get them, I'll just wait.
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  Speaker 3: I'll just wait.
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  Speaker 8: And if it don't have and it don't, what's the
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  Speaker 8: future of your brand?
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  Speaker 7: Like we see Rihanna become a billionaire for having her
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  Speaker 7: beauty brand. And I feel like, especially when you got
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  Speaker 7: like a solid consolidated community, you can really start pushing
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  Speaker 7: out products and that's when you really hit you out
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  Speaker 7: your jectory.
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  Speaker 8: So what's the future of expansion for you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. I do want to put out
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  Speaker 4: some products because that it'd be more money in that
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  Speaker 4: than the music. Okay, I just want whatever product I
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  Speaker 4: put out to represent me and my brand.
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  Speaker 9: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I really love to be comfortable and I love to
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  Speaker 3: lounge around the house.
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  Speaker 4: So like one of the things I wanted to do
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  Speaker 4: was like on ess, like loungewear, and like I'm big
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  Speaker 4: on like hygiene, so like kitty.
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  Speaker 3: Kits, like for the girls.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, kitty kits.
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  Speaker 3: Very important. But yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I'll come up with something else later on, but
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  Speaker 4: I still like still trying to balance out this life, so.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully that comes about, like later on.
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  Speaker 2: I feel ideas though, I feel like the greatest artist,
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  Speaker 2: whether it was DMX or eminem or even nas, like
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  Speaker 2: they always told their life and you felt their pain,
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  Speaker 2: you felt they was going through and it's a gift
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  Speaker 2: in the curse because your fans feel like you're your family,
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  Speaker 2: but you're also letting people know what you're personally going through. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so how do you balance that because I know that's
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  Speaker 2: like you know your story you how do you balance that?
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  Speaker 2: And is there have a point where you turn it
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  Speaker 2: off where it's like, this is my pain, this is
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  Speaker 2: my music, this is my joys, but this is private.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to share, you know what.
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  Speaker 4: Story of my life because I definitely used to overshare
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  Speaker 4: a lot. Like overshare, it's I've groomed to be a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more conservative, but now I think I'm a
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  Speaker 4: little bit too conservative. So like I'm an extremist, I'm
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  Speaker 4: either here or here. I'm trying to find like a
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  Speaker 4: medium because at the end of the day, the reason
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  Speaker 4: why people love me and how I came about was
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  Speaker 4: from being transparent and showing my life. But like you said,
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  Speaker 4: people think they know you from just like they think
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  Speaker 4: they know you from a minute video, and it's just
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  Speaker 4: like you don't, you really don't, and they have their opinions,
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  Speaker 4: and sometimes it could it could just get so like
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  Speaker 4: overwhelming to where you know, I start to go into
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  Speaker 4: this little shell and I don't want to, but I
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  Speaker 4: can't do that because of the industry I'm in and
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  Speaker 4: I have to I mean, you gotta be out there
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  Speaker 4: and you got to be visible.
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  Speaker 3: So I just have to find a medium.
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  Speaker 4: Still, I think I'm gonna get back on my YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, coming back.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, y'all heard it.
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  Speaker 5: Head.
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  Speaker 6: So obviously the coaches Big as Night Sunday you're presenting,
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  Speaker 6: is it somebody excited.
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  Speaker 3: To see I'm just really excited. I'm just excited to
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  Speaker 3: be here. It's not like I'm excited to see everybody.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So let me ask you last, how do you balance
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  Speaker 7: because you know, you got family, you got a career,
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  Speaker 7: you got tour, you got a relationship.
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  Speaker 8: Do you meditate, do you take walks? What's your mental health?
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  Speaker 5: Luck?
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  Speaker 2: What we're doing, I just pray.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I grew up in I grew up in church
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  Speaker 4: and stuff. So like, honestly, I just ray, I need
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  Speaker 4: to do.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit better that. But to be honest, I
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  Speaker 3: think I need to do a little I think I need.
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  Speaker 4: To find I still have to find something. I still
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  Speaker 4: have to find something like uh that puts me at peace.
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  Speaker 4: But I know one of the main things is like
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  Speaker 4: car rights studio sessions. That's where that's when I write
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  Speaker 4: my music and go to the student. That's my therapy.
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  Speaker 4: I do have a therapist. I talked to a therapist
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  Speaker 4: and it helps a lot. But I want to find
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  Speaker 4: a hobby, like, I want to find something to do
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  Speaker 4: outside of music that I just really really enjoy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta find it.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. Well, thank you. The one last question that
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  Speaker 2: I have is we talked about R and B, and
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we're in a good space for R
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  Speaker 2: and B right now. Who is your biggest R and
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  Speaker 2: B inspiration?
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  Speaker 3: Biggest R and B? Oh, that's hard.
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  Speaker 2: Who was your favorite all top favorite? Whitney Hughton, Whinney.
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  Speaker 3: Houston, Mary J of course Mary J for Real Monica
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  Speaker 3: and a lot more. But I grew up listening to them.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I would we appreciate you coming. Make sure
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  Speaker 5: y'all go check out the tour Queen nazi Ya.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, thank you here with Joey. Dad asked Joey,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for joining us, bro, I appreciate it, your sir, Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 11: So we had we had for b TV ninety y'all
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  Speaker 11: with the mice in your hands was like.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, so, Joey, you you're very interesting to me because
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  Speaker 2: you represent a nostalgic era that we grew up on nineties,
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  Speaker 2: but you also are new school and you got that
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  Speaker 2: and your multi talent, so you act rap. So it's
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  Speaker 2: like a gumball. Where do you get where you get
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  Speaker 2: your inspiration from?
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  Speaker 10: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Where do you get your inspiration from? And how do
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  Speaker 2: you stay freend with the times?
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  Speaker 12: Well?
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  Speaker 13: God, I feel like everything that I do is a
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  Speaker 13: spiritual experience, you know what I'm saying. Like if it
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  Speaker 13: wasn't for me feeling purposeful and the things that I do,
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  Speaker 13: I don't think I'll be able to do them properly,
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  Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying. So I would say that's
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  Speaker 13: definitely my that's my jump start, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 13: It comes from spirit, It comes from the soul. That's
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  Speaker 13: why I find my inspiration. And apart from now, it's
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  Speaker 13: just expansion, you know what I'm saying. Wanted to build
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  Speaker 13: more for my legacy, for us, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 13: for my people.
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  Speaker 6: Award winning actor, what I said, award winning, let's start there.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously you will stand out and the power series. So
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  Speaker 6: when did the love for acting come about?
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  Speaker 5: Somebody? Was that something you were formally trained in Or.
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  Speaker 11: I was always entacty, So.
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  Speaker 13: To get into my high school, I went to Edward
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  Speaker 13: all Murow in Brooklyn, Bosky. I went there Adam Yacht
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  Speaker 13: from the BC Boys, Little Mam majority badass, and uh,
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  Speaker 13: they had a theater program there. I'm trying to get
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  Speaker 13: into like Laguardie and stuff like that, but because of
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  Speaker 13: my attendance, I couldn't.
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  Speaker 11: I couldn't go.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, They're like, nigga, you live in Brooklyn and your
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  Speaker 13: attendance is bad. In Brooklyn, it was like.
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  Speaker 5: Stay at roke here.
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  Speaker 13: So I ended up going to end with all Mother
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  Speaker 13: and I was in an apartment for about two years.
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  Speaker 13: It's kind of like a culture shock for me because
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  Speaker 13: my first signs going to school like white people and
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  Speaker 13: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 11: So it was kind of hard for me to keep
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  Speaker 11: up and I d' getting kicked out. But h you know,
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  Speaker 11: music was always my first love. I always have music
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  Speaker 11: like just here with me, and I figured I learned
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  Speaker 11: quickly that you know, trying to.
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  Speaker 13: Make it as an action in New York City, he's
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  Speaker 13: like trying to find a needle in a hat stack.
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  Speaker 13: So I doubled down on music as my main focus,
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  Speaker 13: and I figured that in the future, I'll be able
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  Speaker 13: to use it as leverage into the acting business.
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  Speaker 7: With this session with ideas, let me ad she mean,
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  Speaker 7: I know a lot of people utilize like law of
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  Speaker 7: attraction and shit like that, and I could tell you know,
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  Speaker 7: you deep into the esoterics, you understand symbolism, the power
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  Speaker 7: of it, so I know you tap into the different
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  Speaker 7: universal laws and intelligence.
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  Speaker 5: I like the you know, the law of.
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  Speaker 8: Confidence or the law of focus. Which one you tap in?
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  Speaker 8: You feel me when you want to go to that
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  Speaker 8: next level?
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  Speaker 5: Which one?
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  Speaker 8: Which one is a principle that you.
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  Speaker 11: Apply between the law focus and the law of confidence.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever law the universe you utilize.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I'm big on faith, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 11: I'm going be faith based.
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  Speaker 2: So like.
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  Speaker 11: I got, I got a way of thinking where you know,
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  Speaker 11: you can tell who's praying who's not, you know what
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  Speaker 11: I'm saying. Usually the people who are frustlating with life
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  Speaker 11: and h you know, blaming other things, they probably could
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  Speaker 11: pray some monk.
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  Speaker 13: So like me, like when I think they want to
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  Speaker 13: double down take things to be like I mean, I
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  Speaker 13: pray every day off top, but when I really want
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  Speaker 13: to double down take ing CBS level, I turn the socks,
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  Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying, And I turned into my
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  Speaker 13: faith and age Dad alone feels everything.
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  Speaker 11: Else feels my focus, It feels my confidict.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, fuse, you.
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  Speaker 11: Know whatever it is that I need to make it
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  Speaker 11: to that next loving at that.
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  Speaker 8: Getting point, that's the law belief. Whatever you believe crystallizes
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  Speaker 8: and becomes real for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So acting or rapping, which one do you prefer? Like,
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  Speaker 2: what's what's the number one for you?
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  Speaker 13: I mean, listen, man, I tell people all the time
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  Speaker 13: like it's like it's like two women that you love,
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  Speaker 13: you know, Like I ain't about to explicitly say which
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  Speaker 13: when I prefer, but I tell you this, I couldn't
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  Speaker 13: survive without music. You know.
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  Speaker 11: That was my first love. That was you know, my
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  Speaker 11: first baby mom.
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  Speaker 13: Whatever anetic to her. But they both make me better
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  Speaker 13: for each other, you know what I'm saying. It's like
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  Speaker 13: then for a while, come back to music. It's like
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  Speaker 13: a new level of freedom because I'm like, oh, like I.
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  Speaker 11: Don't you know this music. I don't gotta rely on music,
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  Speaker 11: no more shame thing with acting. I go over there
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  Speaker 11: and it's like I ain't gotta rely on this either.
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  Speaker 11: So you know, they both leto keep each other man
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  Speaker 11: in his life. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have traded once
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  Speaker 11: for the art. I need them both.
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  Speaker 6: So tell them about the music. The latest project. I know,
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  Speaker 6: with some delays, what's the update on it? When we're
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  Speaker 6: gonna say, like what show.
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  Speaker 11: The new album?
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  Speaker 13: New album two thousand. It's coming next month in July.
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  Speaker 13: I actually have the date, but I don't. I'm not
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  Speaker 13: gonna share it yet because you know, I don't want
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  Speaker 13: to have to change the shit again. You know what
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  Speaker 13: I'm saying, Like, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna
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  Speaker 13: just announce the pre order and that's when Montherfuck's gonna know. Okay,
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  Speaker 13: the date is lot, it's official. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 13: you know, I ran into some complications. It's been five years,
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  Speaker 13: it's my last album, so it's a lot of excitement
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  Speaker 13: and putting this music out. You know, I'm very eager,
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  Speaker 13: but you know, it's also my first major so that
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  Speaker 13: was really more of the complications that I'm having is
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  Speaker 13: understanding the chain of come in and the whole system, like,
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  Speaker 13: you know, having to have everybody on the same page
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  Speaker 13: and things like that.
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  Speaker 11: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 13: Like, whereas when I was independent, I just pressed the
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  Speaker 13: button like I'm ready. If I say June seventeen, it's
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  Speaker 13: June seventeen, that's when I'm uploaded, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 13: So there's a lot of things I was out of
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  Speaker 13: my control. But listen, when I'm on that stage, it's
• 15:25
  Speaker 13: just Joey Badass. I ain't got no time to point
• 15:27
  Speaker 13: the finger at nobody and everything, like, I just take accountability.
• 15:30
  Speaker 13: It's coming soon, though I can't wait, you know, shout,
• 15:33
  Speaker 13: I tell your body who's waiting and been patient, appreciate y'all.
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: And you got out in front of it too. That's
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: a power of social media.
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: As soon as you know it was a delay, you
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: hear everybody up on ig it's gonna be a delay,
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: and that ain't.
• 15:42
  Speaker 12: No exactly, you know.
• 15:44
  Speaker 7: I feel like the game needs Joey Badass, mostly because
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, I do high level conversations.
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: I feel like your music high level.
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: And plus it's in a lane where there's a lot
• 15:54
  Speaker 7: of shit that's out there, but it ain't nothing to
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: allow you to kind of you.
• 15:58
  Speaker 8: Got a masculine energy feeling. I think you bring that
• 16:01
  Speaker 8: to the game.
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: And you know the music is is high energy, which
• 16:06
  Speaker 7: if you're talking about something, what's you believe that you
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: representing the game?
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: Know as Joey Badass, I think.
• 16:11
  Speaker 11: I represented call the higher consciousness. You know what I'm saying.
• 16:15
  Speaker 13: I represent open mindedness, I represent unity, and I represent
• 16:21
  Speaker 13: you know, yeah, just broad a thinking man, higher level shit,
• 16:25
  Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying.
• 16:25
  Speaker 11: Like we we about expansion over here, you know what
• 16:28
  Speaker 11: I mean.
• 16:28
  Speaker 13: Like my whole experience as a musician, as an actor,
• 16:32
  Speaker 13: I've seen them try to marginalize us as a people,
• 16:35
  Speaker 13: as a culture, and you know, I'm here to double
• 16:37
  Speaker 13: down on the fact that we oceans.
• 16:39
  Speaker 11: We ain't swimming pools, you know what I mean.
• 16:41
  Speaker 13: We've asked and unpredictable, you know what I'm saying, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 13: there's no limitations to what we're doing.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: So my last question from a business standpoint, you being
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: independent going to a major What made you do that?
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And how has it changed as far as the business
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: dynamics is being an independent artist in on a major label.
• 17:01
  Speaker 13: First of all, great question, you know, because my whole
• 17:03
  Speaker 13: foundation is built on independence, you know what I mean.
• 17:06
  Speaker 13: That's that's like my call of fame right there. So
• 17:09
  Speaker 13: my decision on going with a major was me getting
• 17:12
  Speaker 13: to a point in my career where I created enough
• 17:14
  Speaker 13: leverage where I was able to find a partner and
• 17:17
  Speaker 13: be able to ask for the things that I want
• 17:19
  Speaker 13: and that I deserve, where you know, it didn't slight me.
• 17:22
  Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying. I didn't.
• 17:23
  Speaker 13: I didn't have I wasn't giving up the lion's share
• 17:27
  Speaker 13: or anything like that, so you know, and also also
• 17:31
  Speaker 13: as independence as creatives, this there's this bust, so much
• 17:35
  Speaker 13: we could do until we reach a glass ceiling. It's
• 17:38
  Speaker 13: like being a painter, you could sell all your your
• 17:40
  Speaker 13: artworks right out of your your photo studio, but eventually
• 17:45
  Speaker 13: it's just word of mouth. Whereas you go partner with
• 17:48
  Speaker 13: a gallery or something like that, and it's like now
• 17:50
  Speaker 13: your works is getting out there some more and shit
• 17:52
  Speaker 13: like that. So that was that was kind of my
• 17:54
  Speaker 13: my decision making. And also like having an escape plan,
• 17:57
  Speaker 13: you know what I mean, Like I ain't I ain't
• 17:59
  Speaker 13: majoring forever two albums in them out.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: Are you studying Web three?
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Any?
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: You said what Web three? Where?
• 18:06
  Speaker 11: No, I'm not. I'm not too big on the Web
• 18:08
  Speaker 11: three NFT game. Like you know, I like to live
• 18:10
  Speaker 11: real life, not even.
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: Talking about just like utilizing the platform, because when I
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: think about independent artists, that's gonna be the best platform.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: The blockchain, you understand me. It's gonna expand what you're
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: gonna be able to do. It's basically will allow you
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: to circumnavigate having a label because you're gonna be able
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: to take those same things. They got an operation and
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: automate it for shure you feel me so on the show.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: NFTs are just one phase of the blockchain, but the
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: new iteration of the Internet go allowed the creators to
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: be able to own it and take advantage of it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 11: Right up. Well, I mean, you know, to be honest,
• 18:39
  Speaker 11: I got to catch up a bit. You know what
• 18:40
  Speaker 11: I'm saying.
• 18:41
  Speaker 13: I got I gotta catch up a bit like pandemic.
• 18:44
  Speaker 13: I'm out here living real life.
• 18:46
  Speaker 11: You know what I mean.
• 18:46
  Speaker 13: I got my baby dough at home. I haven't really
• 18:48
  Speaker 13: been diving too much into it, you know what I'm saying.
• 18:50
  Speaker 13: But I'm with you on that and with you on that,
• 18:52
  Speaker 13: but I appreciate that.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: My last thought is, all as you're talking, who's your
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: biggest music influence not named Jay Z? Because when I'm here,
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: I got a guy in mind. I'm like, I know that,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: I know that I'm here. I'm like, yo, I feel
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: like there's a Rock Kim influence here.
• 19:08
  Speaker 11: For show for show. I love Rock Kim, you know
• 19:11
  Speaker 11: what I'm saying.
• 19:12
  Speaker 13: For me, what I love about Rock Kim is more
• 19:14
  Speaker 13: like the energy and the spirit and the embodiment of
• 19:17
  Speaker 13: just you know what I'm saying, being high level and
• 19:20
  Speaker 13: being like focusing on your dean, you know what I'm saying,
• 19:23
  Speaker 13: and not having a It's about intequity over success, you know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 13: because that's what I value, you know what I mean?
• 19:29
  Speaker 11: So yeah, for sure, but I was apart from Jake,
• 19:34
  Speaker 11: I gotta get it to life.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Nah, I can see the early ellmatic Ye see that,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I can see.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: You know nothing.
• 19:42
  Speaker 11: That's my big bunk for with you know. Yeah, Like
• 19:45
  Speaker 11: I'm great for that out of relationship with him, you.
• 19:47
  Speaker 10: Know what I mean?
• 19:48
  Speaker 11: Like I literally call him the city.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Brothers, My dog days are coming over.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Neil, Welcome back, Welcome back, brother. First of all, this
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: is a reunion. Last time we saw you with invest
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Fest VIP nighted today for the stage down. So I
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: want to I want to formally thank you for that, man,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I was so for me.
• 20:06
  Speaker 14: I had a great time brother. Indeed, indeed appreciate you
• 20:09
  Speaker 14: having me no problem.
• 20:10
  Speaker 11: Man.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: So you as like a legacy artist at this point,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: which is crazy because I grew up on your music.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: So now it's like you're a legacy artist. How do
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you how do you maintain your your relevancy? And almost
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: what twenty is in the game fifteen?
• 20:25
  Speaker 15: We almost at twenty. Yeah, we almost at the twenty mark,
• 20:29
  Speaker 15: you know.
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 20:30
  Speaker 14: For me, it's it's always been about acknowledging the trend,
• 20:33
  Speaker 14: but not following it, you know what I mean. Like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 14: I think a lot of these young casts don't realize
• 20:37
  Speaker 14: that trends are meant to come and go, and if
• 20:40
  Speaker 14: you attach your artistry, if you attach yourself to that trend,
• 20:43
  Speaker 14: once that trend leaves, you kind of leave with it,
• 20:46
  Speaker 14: you know what I mean. So I've always tried to
• 20:48
  Speaker 14: attach myself to things that aren't going anywhere, up to
• 20:51
  Speaker 14: sound going anywhere. Sound of a guitar is never going anywhere.
• 20:54
  Speaker 14: Love is a feeling, as an emotion, as a move,
• 20:57
  Speaker 14: and that it ain't going nowhere. It might be the
• 20:58
  Speaker 14: most popular thing right now, because you know, it is
• 21:00
  Speaker 14: what it is, but it's never gonna go out of style.
• 21:03
  Speaker 14: It's never there's never gonna be a time where it's
• 21:05
  Speaker 14: like we don't need love. We always need love. We
• 21:07
  Speaker 14: will forever need love, and we will forever need love songs.
• 21:10
  Speaker 14: And as long as that's the case, Neil will forever
• 21:12
  Speaker 14: be around.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: I think I'm glad you said that, because that's one
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: of the many talents you started as a songwriter, became
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: a worldwide success.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: As an artist.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: But at these times, now do you go back to
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: the original talent, like I see it as an artist
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: out there, they could be great.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: They need that Neo Penn is.
• 21:28
  Speaker 15: That I I mean that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 14: That may not, that may not be the mind state
• 21:31
  Speaker 14: as to why I do it. But at the same time,
• 21:34
  Speaker 14: I've I'll never not write, you know what I'm saying.
• 21:36
  Speaker 14: That's that's that's therapy for me, you know, if it's
• 21:39
  Speaker 14: I've always been better putting it down on paper as
• 21:41
  Speaker 14: opposed to even saying it out of my mouth. So,
• 21:43
  Speaker 14: you know, whenever I get into that place where I'm
• 21:47
  Speaker 14: Superman in my family, right, so whenever Superman needs saving,
• 21:50
  Speaker 14: I get in my pad and I'm good again. You
• 21:53
  Speaker 14: know what, I mean, that's that's that's always been my therapy.
• 21:54
  Speaker 14: So the fact that I can do it as a
• 21:56
  Speaker 14: career and make money doing it, that's just French benefit.
• 21:59
  Speaker 14: I'm saying, because of it, you know what I mean,
• 22:01
  Speaker 14: Like I'm stable because of it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: Now, do you think we headed to a place where
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: because R and B is one of those genres that
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: it's forever needed. Number One, we're very love for society.
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: We ain't got enough love in the culture. You understand me,
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: And I think R and B is probably something that
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: we need to listen to even more. And recently we
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: sing Drake and Beyonce do like house music and a
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: lot of people in dance music and a lot of
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: people were saying, well, this was actually a good thing
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: because it's a break from what we get. A lot
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: of music is dark in these days. What is R
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: and B or what is the future of music as
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: a therapy for the culture?
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: You understand me?
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: And specifically, like, what's your intention you put in the
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: music as far as what you want to spread?
• 22:44
  Speaker 14: Well, I mean I've been I've been about love from
• 22:46
  Speaker 14: the very beginning, or should I say the black, white
• 22:49
  Speaker 14: and gray of love? Because you know you can't appreciate
• 22:52
  Speaker 14: the highs of love if you can't acknowledge the lows
• 22:54
  Speaker 14: of love, like they both exist for a reason.
• 22:56
  Speaker 15: It's like Yin and yang, you know.
• 23:00
  Speaker 14: So I'm trying to make sure that anybody going through
• 23:04
  Speaker 14: a heartbreak or anybody going through anything like that, knows
• 23:06
  Speaker 14: and understands that they're not alone. You don't nobody you
• 23:10
  Speaker 14: going through it, but it ain't just you. I'm going
• 23:13
  Speaker 14: through it too, you know what I'm saying. That's what
• 23:15
  Speaker 14: the song says to them, and what the song also
• 23:17
  Speaker 14: does is give them a soundtrack to what it is
• 23:19
  Speaker 14: is happening. You know, I'm depressed, I feel bad right now.
• 23:22
  Speaker 14: I need I need a song that's gonna pull me up.
• 23:24
  Speaker 14: I got that for you or you know what I'm saying.
• 23:26
  Speaker 14: I just feel like being in my feeling today is raining.
• 23:28
  Speaker 14: I want to just be in this place. I got
• 23:29
  Speaker 14: that for you too. That's what my music has always been,
• 23:32
  Speaker 14: you know, put the song on and apply it to
• 23:35
  Speaker 14: your life accordingly.
• 23:36
  Speaker 15: That's what a neo record is.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: So when did you let me ask you this? As
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: far as balancing business and music, right, a lot of
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: people say they get turned off from creating because they
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: have to deal with the business side. Did you ever
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: have that experience and how has your experience been navigating
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: being a creative and being a businessman at the same song.
• 24:00
  Speaker 11: So this is a new way to segue into the
• 24:02
  Speaker 11: new album.
• 24:03
  Speaker 15: It's July fifteenth, self explanatory and now the album.
• 24:08
  Speaker 14: I've been writing on this album since twenty eighteen, since
• 24:11
  Speaker 14: before the pandemic, and a lot of the reason aside
• 24:14
  Speaker 14: from the pandemic, a lot of reason why so long
• 24:17
  Speaker 14: is because I fell into that place where it was like,
• 24:19
  Speaker 14: all right, this is a good song, but is it
• 24:20
  Speaker 14: rhythmic enough, is it popping up? Is it urban enough?
• 24:24
  Speaker 14: And then I'm looking at like I'm looking at the format.
• 24:26
  Speaker 14: It's like, all right, the sounds changed. I ain't getting
• 24:30
  Speaker 14: no younger. Do I fit still? Is there even a
• 24:33
  Speaker 14: place for me in this still fell into that place
• 24:36
  Speaker 14: and it took a major, major toll on just my creativity.
• 24:40
  Speaker 14: I couldn't write nothing like because I'm second guessing everything
• 24:42
  Speaker 14: I'm doing. I had to finally get to that place
• 24:44
  Speaker 14: where I realized it, Man, I've never been in the
• 24:46
  Speaker 14: business for the business of selling records.
• 24:49
  Speaker 15: That's not what I do. Record label sell records, I
• 24:52
  Speaker 15: am not a record label. I'm an artist. I'm a writer.
• 24:53
  Speaker 14: I'm a singer. My only obligation is to put my
• 24:56
  Speaker 14: heart and soul into this music.
• 24:59
  Speaker 15: That's it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 14: Once I got back there, the songs just pour it
• 25:02
  Speaker 14: out of me. So I got back to that. I
• 25:04
  Speaker 14: got back to a good place. The business side of
• 25:06
  Speaker 14: this will steal the joy of the side if you
• 25:09
  Speaker 14: let it.
• 25:10
  Speaker 15: Now at the same time, to do this and not
• 25:13
  Speaker 15: know that it's a business, it's just stupid.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: That's just no one.
• 25:16
  Speaker 14: Understands that there is millions upon millions upon hundreds of
• 25:20
  Speaker 14: millions of dollars made with this, So you can't ignore
• 25:23
  Speaker 14: the fact that it's a business. But what you don't
• 25:25
  Speaker 14: do is take the business into the studio. You don't
• 25:28
  Speaker 14: go in the studio and all right, today we're going
• 25:29
  Speaker 14: to write a pop song, y'all. Because it'll never happen
• 25:32
  Speaker 14: like that. You got to go in the studio and
• 25:34
  Speaker 14: do what your artistic integrity lets you do and then
• 25:37
  Speaker 14: let the people that do that figure out where it's
• 25:38
  Speaker 14: supposed to fall. Okay, you did a pop record today,
• 25:41
  Speaker 14: I know where to take this. You did the rhythmic
• 25:42
  Speaker 14: records today, all right, I know where to take this
• 25:44
  Speaker 14: in the creative process. It's just about creation, bro, It's
• 25:47
  Speaker 14: just about art. Let it be about that, Let it
• 25:50
  Speaker 14: be Let that be your joyous spot, and then let
• 25:53
  Speaker 14: the people that do that do that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 15: At least that's been my philosophy of it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so you said this, I mean it's only on
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: twenty years, Like, yeah, we grew up on the music.
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but it has changed.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: And so I wonder now, is there artists that you
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: listen to that inspire you the music and say, like,
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: I like this all right, I can hear what they're
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: going with, Or when you're getting in that process of
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: writing for the new album, did you go back in
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: time to eighties or seventies sounds to be like I
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: needed that to inspire me.
• 26:21
  Speaker 15: I can honestly say a little bit of both, a
• 26:23
  Speaker 15: little bit of both, because.
• 26:24
  Speaker 14: Again, you can't you can't ignore what's happening right now,
• 26:29
  Speaker 14: Like you can't call yourself a music person and ignore
• 26:31
  Speaker 14: what's happening right now. But at the same time, you
• 26:34
  Speaker 14: also can't try to transform yourself into what's happening right now,
• 26:37
  Speaker 14: because it's happening right now, you know what I mean, Like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 14: I'm forty two years old. There's some things that are
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: being said in some of these records that it's just
• 26:44
  Speaker 14: gonna sound stupid if I say I'm aware of that.
• 26:47
  Speaker 15: I acknowledge that, And I ain't even mad at that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying.
• 26:49
  Speaker 14: I'm I'm always gonna give you the metaphor that's gonna
• 26:52
  Speaker 14: make you think a little bit to get to where
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: that to get to where you got with that, you
• 26:56
  Speaker 14: know what I'm saying. That's always gonna be my thing.
• 26:58
  Speaker 14: But at the same time, I can't. I can't say
• 27:03
  Speaker 14: that it's not young cats out here doing it like
• 27:04
  Speaker 14: the boy Blue, he's making moves. I cannot acknowledge that,
• 27:09
  Speaker 14: Lucky Day making moves. Give you on making moves.
• 27:12
  Speaker 15: I can't. I can't ignore that, you know.
• 27:14
  Speaker 14: So I listen to these cats and and and I
• 27:16
  Speaker 14: kind of I'm almost kind of taking back to my beginnings,
• 27:19
  Speaker 14: Like I know where you're at right now.
• 27:21
  Speaker 15: I know the excitement you're feeling right.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Now, Hotel. I'm thinking like that's one of the records.
• 27:26
  Speaker 14: Shout out to that boy by the way, give I
• 27:28
  Speaker 14: love his tone.
• 27:29
  Speaker 15: You see, don't sound like.
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: What's I kind of got a two part question.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: First part is do you recognize the metaphysical aspect of music,
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: You understand me, Like you know we water beings. So
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: music as a frequency and trage you like once you
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: put a motion, emotion into something that gets stuck into
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: a person as they listen to it. Like a person
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: may listen to your words and your voice and your
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: energy a thousand times. They may listen to our podcast
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: or media once or twice.
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: You understand me.
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: Do you recognize that power metaphysically that music has as
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: you're going into it with that intention? And then too,
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: do you plan on in the future utilizing like NF
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: teen's Web three blockchain to really monetize your music in
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: a different way to go direct to consumer.
• 28:16
  Speaker 14: Gee two parts. So yes, I'm definitely aware of that.
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: I'm definitely aware of the music's power.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 28:23
  Speaker 14: Uh, sound is frequency, frequency is vibration, and all of
• 28:26
  Speaker 14: these things affect us, affect ourselves, affects us on the inside.
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: It ain't just I listen to this song and I
• 28:31
  Speaker 14: like it. It's I listen to this song and it
• 28:34
  Speaker 14: does something. It affects me. I get goosebumps or whatever
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: the case may be. It's because of vibration, frequency things.
• 28:39
  Speaker 14: So I'm very aware of how powerful that is. I'm
• 28:43
  Speaker 14: aware of how some cats have used it the wrong way.
• 28:46
  Speaker 14: You know, you put a frequency in your record that
• 28:48
  Speaker 14: makes people addicted to it, but it's not feeding them anything.
• 28:51
  Speaker 14: It's just it's just making it's just creating craving Like
• 28:55
  Speaker 14: that's that's almost backwards.
• 28:56
  Speaker 15: I just crave, I just crave, I just crave. Well,
• 28:58
  Speaker 15: what do you crave?
• 28:58
  Speaker 14: I'm trying to get you to music that's going to
• 29:01
  Speaker 14: get you to crave the right thing that's going to
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: get you to crave that thing that's gonna make yourselves
• 29:04
  Speaker 14: move the where they need to move, you know what
• 29:06
  Speaker 14: I mean.
• 29:06
  Speaker 15: That's that's what I'm always shooting for.
• 29:08
  Speaker 14: And as far as NFTs and all of that stuff,
• 29:10
  Speaker 14: I'm definitely in that world, not as heavy as I
• 29:13
  Speaker 14: would like to be, And it's mainly just a standpoint
• 29:16
  Speaker 14: of sitting still long enough to get the information, to
• 29:18
  Speaker 14: get together the knowledge.
• 29:20
  Speaker 15: But I see what that is. I see the potential
• 29:22
  Speaker 15: in that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 14: You know, right now, NFTs is something that you can't
• 29:26
  Speaker 14: even touch, you know, it's it's it's intangible. But in
• 29:28
  Speaker 14: a minute, you about to see houses as NFTs, You
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: about to see whole records as NFTs like it's it's
• 29:34
  Speaker 14: about to that's what's that's where we're about to go.
• 29:35
  Speaker 15: I see it happening.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: So last question before we wrap, I will actually I
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: want you to tell people about the new music, because yeah,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: like I said, I grew up on it, the old music,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: but I'm looking forward to the new music. So what
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: can we be looking forward to on a new project?
• 29:51
  Speaker 14: Gopy that so self explanatory is the name of the
• 29:54
  Speaker 14: new album, and I called it that simply because the
• 29:56
  Speaker 14: music speaks for itself. It doesn't really need much explanation.
• 29:59
  Speaker 14: On top of the fact that I've been here almost
• 30:01
  Speaker 14: twenty years, I feel like y'all should know me at
• 30:02
  Speaker 14: this point.
• 30:03
  Speaker 15: I shouldn't have to explain who I am, what I am,
• 30:05
  Speaker 15: what I do. On this album.
• 30:07
  Speaker 14: You will find acknowledgment of what's going on right now
• 30:11
  Speaker 14: with my spin on it, and but you will also find,
• 30:15
  Speaker 14: you know, that song for the diehard fan, that person
• 30:17
  Speaker 14: that's been there since stay and the vibe and energy
• 30:20
  Speaker 14: that they look for. I'm always trying to please all
• 30:22
  Speaker 14: the people at the same time, and I know that
• 30:23
  Speaker 14: that's virtually impossible, but damn it, I'm gonna keep doing
• 30:28
  Speaker 14: what I do for who's listening and who cares?
• 30:30
  Speaker 15: And and uh yeah, yeah that's what it is.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Brother hedio record, Uh put you on the spot.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, so sick is up there, but uh sech
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: and love problems such.
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: And love good taste, good taste, Miss independent.
• 30:46
  Speaker 15: Indeed, I appreciate that love rump and shot.
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: Come on, man, it's certain songs that made me think
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: I could sing.
• 30:57
  Speaker 16: That's why you know it's a good record to do
• 31:00
  Speaker 16: you see like you feel?
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Might sound good?
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: Right man?
• 31:04
  Speaker 15: Somebody got Neil for me?
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: I'm throw one back at you. Best swing that neo
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: rope ah.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: A little bit for there's a couple of you got one?
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: How about this?
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: I do we saw one of the guys before in
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: that record last night last night, I wasn't there.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Damn, let's refrain.
• 31:31
  Speaker 15: You saw the winner. Talk saw the winner that replaced
• 31:36
  Speaker 15: the versus the.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: The Marrio joints to this is replaceable, but it's not replaceable.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: But let me love you irreplaceable irreplaceable?
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Wow, which one is your favorite?
• 31:49
  Speaker 15: Damn?
• 31:50
  Speaker 14: I mean they both equated to really quality Christmases. I
• 31:53
  Speaker 14: will say that really good Christmas is off of both
• 31:56
  Speaker 14: of those records.
• 31:57
  Speaker 15: Still it is Day, It is Day. Yeah, my kids
• 32:00
  Speaker 15: love those songs.
• 32:02
  Speaker 14: If I had to choose one over the other, probably
• 32:05
  Speaker 14: probably irreplaceable, only because it was a learning experience for me,
• 32:08
  Speaker 14: you know what I mean. Like I wrote the song
• 32:09
  Speaker 14: with the intent to keep it and learned that certain lyrics,
• 32:14
  Speaker 14: the the person delivering the message matters.
• 32:17
  Speaker 15: Sometimes.
• 32:18
  Speaker 14: For example, I can have another you in a minute,
• 32:20
  Speaker 14: matter of fact, she'll be here in a minute. From
• 32:22
  Speaker 14: a man, sounds a little mean, limosogynistic, but for a
• 32:26
  Speaker 14: woman to say I can have another you in a minute,
• 32:28
  Speaker 14: matter of fact, he'll be here in a minute, every
• 32:30
  Speaker 14: woman in the world is gonna rally behind it, like
• 32:31
  Speaker 14: that's my girl, you know what I mean. So that's
• 32:36
  Speaker 14: that I learned that lesson through that record. Super Big
• 32:42
  Speaker 14: Daddy is a boyfriend for that record. Michael Jackson, Prince,
• 32:46
  Speaker 14: I can't, I can't. I can't even do it right, I.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Tell you.
• 32:52
  Speaker 14: So I learned how to sing mimicking Michael Jackson, I
• 32:57
  Speaker 14: learned how to perform Mimiican Prince and I've had I've
• 33:01
  Speaker 14: had moments with both of them before they passed. I
• 33:03
  Speaker 14: got to actually write with For Michael Jackson, we didn't
• 33:06
  Speaker 14: get to record the records, but like talking to this
• 33:08
  Speaker 14: man regularly and him critiquing the records that I'm writing
• 33:11
  Speaker 14: for him, like that was an experience. And then Prince
• 33:15
  Speaker 14: my Libra Scale It's probably my worst performing album, and
• 33:19
  Speaker 14: I was bummed out. I was messed up about it,
• 33:21
  Speaker 14: and we got we got we got invited to Prince's
• 33:24
  Speaker 14: Grammy party that year. I remember I was. I was
• 33:27
  Speaker 14: psyched about that because huge Prince fans. So we go in,
• 33:29
  Speaker 14: he's on stage, he's performing with he sees me. He
• 33:33
  Speaker 14: puts his guitar down b lines for me and comes
• 33:36
  Speaker 14: to me and says to me, Yo, Libra Scale was
• 33:38
  Speaker 14: a good album and don't let anybody tell you different.
• 33:41
  Speaker 14: Back up stage and finished what he was doing, and
• 33:43
  Speaker 14: that that for me in that moment, because I was
• 33:45
  Speaker 14: I was, I was beat up.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 33:47
  Speaker 15: I was beat up. Prince liked the album to hell
• 33:50
  Speaker 15: with anybody that didn't like it. Look tell what all, y'all, I.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Gotta give you credit before we go.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: Your versus Battle probably the most slept on but absolutely
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: Classicpreciate that class.
• 34:01
  Speaker 15: The reason I was there last night with there's some
• 34:03
  Speaker 15: some things is in the works.
• 34:04
  Speaker 14: We're having some discussions, some discussions about some possibilities.
• 34:07
  Speaker 15: Yeah, that's that's talking about it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: We got to see you.
• 34:12
  Speaker 15: You know why y'all are here. Okay, So if I
• 34:15
  Speaker 15: was to do it again.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Who who I want to see you against?
• 34:20
  Speaker 15: That was because that's the main thing right now.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Doing something that nobody would expect.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: No, you go first.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Jamie FOXX. I'm gonna say Jamie Fox.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: I like that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 15: That's that's I'm actually not mad at that unexpected.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna start.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: You can't say, are you gonna say? No?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I want to mix it up?
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: I said, Jamie was so such a good answer, I
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: wouldn't go top it.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I think you would mix it up Maxwell.
• 34:56
  Speaker 14: If you if we were talking jess A, R and
• 34:59
  Speaker 14: B Battle, I think that I think that might be
• 35:01
  Speaker 14: a move.
• 35:01
  Speaker 15: I think it might be a moved.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: So you're going.
• 35:03
  Speaker 15: But if I pull out any of the pop records,
• 35:05
  Speaker 15: you can't do the records.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: That's why Jamie Fox would be good.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: But they got wrapped because he got twenty of the thing.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah he got twenty, Jamie twenty. Jamis he got features twenty.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Now you got twenty including features? Yeah, yeah we have Yeah,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: that's that's what you know we're talking about.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: All right, He'll be radio zoom te weekend.
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: The total Goodes night is upon us, our croppy head man,
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: the legend himself made mentality.
• 35:36
  Speaker 12: Thank you for having me. Man, come on man, y'all
• 35:38
  Speaker 12: all legends right here. So to sit down right here,
• 35:40
  Speaker 12: to be included in this, this conversation, in this couch,
• 35:43
  Speaker 12: it means I did the work, truly.
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: That's really so.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I feel like you reinvent yourself. Can you use use
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: things that's trending to reinvent yourself? So we gotta talk
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: about this versus. When did you decide Okay, I'm a
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: remke this flip it? And did you think it was
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: going to go viral? Like people so many verses. I
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: don't watch the verses. I watched his recut.
• 36:10
  Speaker 12: Yeah that's a mussy listens and shout out to my
• 36:14
  Speaker 12: brother's spice Adams Man like without him and when the
• 36:17
  Speaker 12: honeys we connected and just did it organically. But to
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: your point of reinvention, I want to talk about that
• 36:23
  Speaker 12: for a second because we're in a room full of
• 36:26
  Speaker 12: artists right and twenty years ago this same type of
• 36:29
  Speaker 12: room existed and it was a whole new set of
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: it's a whole different set of artists. They come and
• 36:34
  Speaker 12: they go. I don't purposely jump on something that's trendy
• 36:38
  Speaker 12: because I'm like, ah, it's gonna be viral or it's
• 36:41
  Speaker 12: gonna I just live in today. I live in the now,
• 36:44
  Speaker 12: and I create from a now space. And so if
• 36:46
  Speaker 12: I always stay in that now space, I'm always in
• 36:49
  Speaker 12: what the current water flow is as opposed to like
• 36:51
  Speaker 12: creek water or like pond water. It's not dead, it's
• 36:54
  Speaker 12: not stagnant. So you'll never see me talking about what
• 36:57
  Speaker 12: I did last year or ten years ago. So I
• 37:00
  Speaker 12: try to stay in that flow of that so that
• 37:01
  Speaker 12: that helps me reinvent, like skin cells, like it just
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: gradually does it naturally organically, as opposed to trying to
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: do it. You're not gonna see me bleaching my skin
• 37:10
  Speaker 12: to try to get it, trying to get fresh skin.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: It just does it on it. The Guard would be
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: highly disappointed.
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: About Come on, keys want to represent the light skin
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: coalition with pride. You know, I don't need to get.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: No lighter We got together exactly. One of the things
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: that I think people don't really give you credit for.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Maybe they'll know is how you've turned the business of
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: comedy into an actual business or braining content licensing.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: Owning it it. He talked about that a little bit.
• 37:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah, for sure. I I've always heard not to spend
• 37:46
  Speaker 12: your own money, right, And it made sense at first
• 37:50
  Speaker 12: until I keep getting my tax bill at the end
• 37:53
  Speaker 12: of the year, right, and so I'm like, hold on,
• 37:56
  Speaker 12: I'm sending money to dudes who wasn't with me shooting
• 37:59
  Speaker 12: in them, and I don't know what they're doing with that,
• 38:03
  Speaker 12: and it's a lot of that that I'm sending out.
• 38:05
  Speaker 12: So it's like, all right, Well, the way my business
• 38:07
  Speaker 12: is set up, if I can expense it, if I
• 38:09
  Speaker 12: could draw my expenses versus my earnings at the end
• 38:12
  Speaker 12: of the year, why not investing my own lifestyle and
• 38:18
  Speaker 12: things that I want to spend that money on before
• 38:21
  Speaker 12: I have to send it over to those guys until
• 38:24
  Speaker 12: I fully learned and maybe y'all can talk about this
• 38:26
  Speaker 12: offline with me, until I learned how to pay three
• 38:29
  Speaker 12: hundred dollars like Donald did in taxes and get the
• 38:33
  Speaker 12: right loopholes legally, I'm gonna go ahead and do my
• 38:40
  Speaker 12: legal version of that, which is I'm gonna invest the
• 38:42
  Speaker 12: bread that I got into my own projects. So what
• 38:44
  Speaker 12: I do is, for example, I create I shot my
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: own stand up special HBO, Netflix. None of them was
• 38:50
  Speaker 12: coming knocking on my door. Not to say that they
• 38:52
  Speaker 12: won't eventually, but they didn't really know I was doing
• 38:54
  Speaker 12: stand up, So I knew an offer wasn't just gonna
• 38:56
  Speaker 12: fly into my doorsteps. So I shot myint and when
• 39:00
  Speaker 12: licensed it with Kevin Hart at LOL, that's my brother,
• 39:05
  Speaker 12: licensed it, got it back, and now we're shopping for
• 39:07
  Speaker 12: a new deal for it. So I already made that
• 39:08
  Speaker 12: money and I'm about to make money on it again.
• 39:11
  Speaker 12: So that's pretty much my short term template of how
• 39:13
  Speaker 12: I do things.
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: Let me ask you, man, during the time of the verses,
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: you also took some of that same energy and put
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: it towards Kevin Samuels.
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: The rest of peace.
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: Kevin Samuels, he's no longer here. But when you got
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: the news of his passion, you know, because he talked
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: about high value man and you know how he spoke
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: upon women. How did that affect you? You understand me
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: and your platform, like, did you get any feedback on that?
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: What was the actual thoughts about Kevin?
• 39:38
  Speaker 12: So the main feedback because and I've had to I
• 39:42
  Speaker 12: had to talk about this a couple of times, obviously,
• 39:45
  Speaker 12: But the character that I do, doctor Devin Fonteined, is
• 39:48
  Speaker 12: a mix of people. I used to do this character
• 39:50
  Speaker 12: ain't fintained ten years ago about the flamboyant brother that
• 39:53
  Speaker 12: we all know in the hood that ain't comfortable with
• 39:55
  Speaker 12: it saying what it really is, right, So I always
• 39:58
  Speaker 12: did this. That's why the voice is so like exaggerated
• 40:00
  Speaker 12: in cartoony, that's Fontanine. So the more I got into
• 40:04
  Speaker 12: imitating this therapist guy, because I always called him Devin,
• 40:08
  Speaker 12: it was never straight Kevin Samuels. I started calling him
• 40:11
  Speaker 12: Devin because I didn't really know enough about him. All
• 40:13
  Speaker 12: I saw was the little clips that people will send me,
• 40:16
  Speaker 12: and I was like, all right, let me just play
• 40:17
  Speaker 12: a character that's similar to him that don't really want
• 40:20
  Speaker 12: to be on the line even though he's trying to
• 40:22
  Speaker 12: help these people. And I just exaggerated it. And the
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: more I got into the voice, it became Fontaine. So
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: that's why it wasn't a direct Yeah, it wasn't that personal.
• 40:32
  Speaker 12: It wasn't a like when he passed, it wasn't a
• 40:34
  Speaker 12: direct effect on me, like rest in peace to the brother,
• 40:38
  Speaker 12: but I had I literally we never met. I don't
• 40:40
  Speaker 12: know him like that personally, so you know, he he
• 40:43
  Speaker 12: created a platform of online therapy that I thought was
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: humorous for my character to partake in. So that's really
• 40:51
  Speaker 12: the extent of it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: When we talked about the business of comedy, we talked
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: to Steve Harvey, he was like, you know, when he
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: first started, he never understood business. It was just go
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: and tell jokes, and then he understood the business later on.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: But we see a lot of comics now on Instagram,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: but I'm still not sure if they fully understand like
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: that comedy it's like music business, right, Like comedy is
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: a business. So when did you realize that comedy was
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: actually a business? And you what would you say to
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: up and coming comics that have a talent but they
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: only really know how to make people laugh.
• 41:27
  Speaker 12: I knew it was a business from day one. I
• 41:29
  Speaker 12: went to college for business. I have a master's degree
• 41:31
  Speaker 12: in business. So even back then, when I was a
• 41:35
  Speaker 12: broke college student at an HBCU Fable State University shout Out,
• 41:39
  Speaker 12: I knew that I was going into the show but
• 41:41
  Speaker 12: the entertainment industry, I already had the talent so I
• 41:44
  Speaker 12: didn't waste my college years taking up theater. And I
• 41:47
  Speaker 12: was like, no, I know I could do that. When
• 41:49
  Speaker 12: I get on the stage, I want to know what
• 41:50
  Speaker 12: these dudes are talking about on these contracts, and on
• 41:53
  Speaker 12: these deals I need to be able to talk to
• 41:54
  Speaker 12: my lawyer and be able to communicate and speak the
• 41:56
  Speaker 12: same language. So I don't know who understands business. I'm
• 42:00
  Speaker 12: not in comedy. But when I look at guys like
• 42:02
  Speaker 12: eighty five South, when I look at guys like Desi
• 42:04
  Speaker 12: Banks and Hahai Davis, my instinct is that they do know,
• 42:08
  Speaker 12: and that they really created a business model for themselves
• 42:11
  Speaker 12: with the help of Steve Harvey, because Steve has been
• 42:13
  Speaker 12: og to some of those younger guys to me as well,
• 42:17
  Speaker 12: And yeah, it's really about creating a product and being
• 42:22
  Speaker 12: able to market it and sell it. And if you
• 42:24
  Speaker 12: don't understand as a comedians, as a rapper, as an
• 42:27
  Speaker 12: art whatever, as an actor, that you were also this,
• 42:32
  Speaker 12: you're gonna be waiting for the phone to ring and
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: to be hired, as opposed to figuring out how to
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: package yourself and put yourself on the market to sell
• 42:41
  Speaker 12: and take all the money.
• 42:42
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  Speaker 12: I was saying this earlier Black excellence. We always run
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  Speaker 12: to the other side to give validation, and if we
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  Speaker 12: could just put uside all the competition and all the
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  Speaker 12: an issue who have a difference in Me and his
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  Speaker 12: brother don't even have the same religious beliefs, right, but
• 45:09
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  Speaker 12: that respect and we we just we just comment on
• 45:17
  Speaker 12: each other's stuff. We we we we uplift yo. You good,
• 45:21
  Speaker 12: you straight, Yo. Let's talk about songs. So when we
• 45:23
  Speaker 12: see each other next, if we could just get that unity,
• 45:27
  Speaker 12: that that excellency and understand that we are are more
• 45:29
  Speaker 12: powerful together, you know what I mean? For me, that's
• 45:34
  Speaker 12: what I look forward to seeing. I don't want to
• 45:36
  Speaker 12: see another young rapper dead or another all that all
• 45:40
  Speaker 12: that energy is something that we need to push past,
• 45:42
  Speaker 12: and I pray that we do. But that's that's what
• 45:45
  Speaker 12: I'm looking forward to this weekend. Is it's to see
• 45:47
  Speaker 12: who shows up in the in the craziest outfit, you
• 45:50
  Speaker 12: know what I mean, the sparkly shoes and just has fun,
• 45:54
  Speaker 12: you know, being secure in them and who they are,
• 45:56
  Speaker 12: and that doesn't rub off on, you know, in a
• 45:58
  Speaker 12: negative way to somebody else.
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: You know, stories is more powerful than knowledge, man, and
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: I think comedians a lot of times get the opportunity
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: to tell stories.
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: In a way where you're teaching lessons. You understand me that.
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: At the same time, medians have been heavily censored. Nowadays,
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: they understand me. But I think that it's important to
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: allow comedians to go into the dark spaces because that's
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: where you bring people out, that's where you get to
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: have real conversations and we get to push the curture forward.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: So what's your take on do you censor yourself in
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: fear of the so called council culture where nobody actually
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: gets counseled.
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: And then what's the importance of comedians being able to narrate?
• 46:36
  Speaker 8: And you know, and the king, the court jester was
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: able to say anything he wanted to. You feel me.
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: He can talk about the king, he can say he's
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: a tyrant and everybody laughs. But that's necessary to decompress
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: and you know, click that valve of pressure in society.
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: So what's your take on that.
• 46:52
  Speaker 12: I don't do anything out of fear. I don't respond
• 46:55
  Speaker 12: to fear. I said what I said. At the same time,
• 47:01
  Speaker 12: if you know me as a human being, I'm a
• 47:03
  Speaker 12: very tactful, compassionate guy. I'm very empathetic to people. So
• 47:07
  Speaker 12: I'm never trying to talk about anything on stage or
• 47:09
  Speaker 12: in my in my humor, that's gonna make somebody feel
• 47:12
  Speaker 12: like it's affecting who they are as a person or
• 47:16
  Speaker 12: affecting their soul. But there are such things as truths.
• 47:21
  Speaker 12: There's some there's some ugly truths out there that we
• 47:23
  Speaker 12: got to talk about. And I feel like the faster
• 47:25
  Speaker 12: we do that and get comfortable with that, the better
• 47:28
  Speaker 12: we are. My guy, good to see you, The better
• 47:32
  Speaker 12: we are with being able to push past it. And
• 47:34
  Speaker 12: salute to Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle, those guys who
• 47:39
  Speaker 12: make it their platform to speak truth. It may not
• 47:42
  Speaker 12: be what everybody likes to hear, but it's what it's
• 47:44
  Speaker 12: true to them.
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: So you ain't worry about getting slapped on him. You're
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: not worry about getting slapped on him.
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: You know me. You know what I mean too.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: You know what I study.
• 48:00
  Speaker 11: Say that I can't be touched.
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: I touched back every man is you know, we're able
• 48:06
  Speaker 12: to get to be touched, but is how you respond
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: to the touch.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: My last question for you, like being a comedian and
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: everybody knows you you're you're a very you know, outgoing person.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: As far as your personality, people come up to you,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: they tell you jokes. Do you ever get tired?
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: Does that ever?
• 48:25
  Speaker 9: Like?
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Yo, bro, I'm not right now is not the time.
• 48:27
  Speaker 12: It's like yo, when people come to you'll ask your
• 48:30
  Speaker 12: money and my portfolio. Yeah, it's psycho.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: You're like nigga.
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: I just want you to walk like about crazy theories
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: of the world right now, so you get questions, Yeah, time,
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: and you gotta you gotta explain the plight of the
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: black man on every tripatory everywhere you go.
• 48:50
  Speaker 12: Brother, that's so key. So let me let me ask
• 48:52
  Speaker 12: you this. They say that black men on the phone
• 48:57
  Speaker 12: to getting diabetes. Do you think that beat? This is
• 49:00
  Speaker 12: directly connected to what poorn we watch because them booties
• 49:06
  Speaker 12: be sweet you like nigga.
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: I just tell you to tell you to tap into yourself.
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: I appreciate you all man, some good questions. Keep asking
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: yourself that right?
• 49:18
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't.
• 49:19
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you know. I love that people show the love
• 49:22
  Speaker 12: and they're aware of what I do. But it ain't
• 49:24
  Speaker 12: always appropriate. You and walk up to Mike Tyson like, hey,
• 49:27
  Speaker 12: you a boxer, punch me and my goddamn face right now?
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: In fact, would you do that?
• 49:33
  Speaker 15: Could you do that?
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: So?
• 49:35
  Speaker 12: Nah, man, I just be chilling.
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: That's what's up. That's what's up.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: I appreciate you, man.
• 49:40
  Speaker 12: I appreciate y'all. Man must respect to y'all. Like this
• 49:42
  Speaker 12: is a it's a great, a great conversation I've been
• 49:45
  Speaker 12: waiting to have with all of us.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Definitely connect off, let's do it, please do all right?
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: So we had this, Like I said, this is what
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I'm most excited about, my god symbol. So I'm a
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: big fan of the music and the era that we
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: came from is very nostalgic to us, sir, and a
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: few people give me that feeling. I got a chance
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: to meet Benning the Butcher and I told him that
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: and simple and I don't even know if you know this,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: but like I mean your comments like fire, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah. So my man, that doula. I'm like, you know,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: simple he like I know him because you repost them
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: all the time. So lyrical, giant fanking bro, thank you,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: thank you man.
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: This is like a breath of like fresh air. Like
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: you said, that music that we grew up on. When
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: we heard that sound, it was like automatic, like well
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: what was that?
• 50:37
  Speaker 10: What?
• 50:38
  Speaker 17: No, that was the whole point, bro.
• 50:40
  Speaker 18: It's like I just was sitting back like a few
• 50:43
  Speaker 18: years ago, and I'm just like, I'm trying things. I'm experimenting.
• 50:46
  Speaker 18: I'm doing melody music, writing pop songs and APG writing
• 50:51
  Speaker 18: for Scooby Doo album, and I just had to sit
• 50:53
  Speaker 18: down like man who and Maya as an artist, you
• 50:56
  Speaker 18: know what I'm saying. And when I think about it,
• 50:57
  Speaker 18: always go back to my uncle's, my mama, you know
• 51:01
  Speaker 18: what I mean. They come from that era. So I'm
• 51:03
  Speaker 18: really a reflection to them, you know what I mean.
• 51:05
  Speaker 18: But I can't just be out here rapping on old beats,
• 51:08
  Speaker 18: and it's like, how do we redefine that, you know
• 51:11
  Speaker 18: what I mean? How do we make it current for today?
• 51:13
  Speaker 18: So that's just literally been my goal is to basically
• 51:16
  Speaker 18: bring back that nostalgic feeling just in today's form.
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: So you know, I'm from the Bay, I'm from Oakland,
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: and I know I always tell people I'm from Oakland.
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: That's why I'm so well spoken. Exactly understand me exactly.
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: It's a certain energy.
• 51:28
  Speaker 17: It's any not on the area.
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: You understand you're gonna do it a little different.
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: And I feel like that's what I get in your
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: music as well, because there's a lot of sucking shit
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: that go off.
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but your music is like anti sucker and you
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: call it out.
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: You feel me so, But at the same time you
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: be at your edge where it's like I'm not afraid
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: to stand right here.
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: You feel me and I'm gonna do a fearless man.
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: Where you get that from?
• 51:50
  Speaker 18: Like I say, bro, my mama, you know what I'm saying,
• 51:53
  Speaker 18: Like my uncle's bro. Like I come from a family
• 51:57
  Speaker 18: bro where it's like, I'm supposed to be in jail, right.
• 52:00
  Speaker 18: I was born in jail. My mama had me in jail.
• 52:04
  Speaker 18: My Auntie went to jail, My uncle Ronnie did ten
• 52:07
  Speaker 18: years in jail. My uncle Speedy told on my uncle
• 52:09
  Speaker 18: Ryan to get out of jail. My favorite cousin went
• 52:12
  Speaker 18: to jail. So it's like, technically jail was supposed to
• 52:14
  Speaker 18: be part of my story. But always seen where they
• 52:17
  Speaker 18: would go wrong growing up, you know what I mean.
• 52:20
  Speaker 18: And I'd be like, you know what, I ain't about
• 52:22
  Speaker 18: to sell dope. I might dabble with a little weed
• 52:24
  Speaker 18: here and there against some money, you know what I'm saying,
• 52:26
  Speaker 18: But I ain't fucking with cocaine.
• 52:28
  Speaker 17: I ain't on that.
• 52:29
  Speaker 8: You know what?
• 52:29
  Speaker 18: I mean, I ain't Finna just be spinning because somebody
• 52:33
  Speaker 18: punched my little nigga in the face.
• 52:34
  Speaker 17: You know what I'm saying.
• 52:35
  Speaker 18: It's like you gotta really do something to me to
• 52:37
  Speaker 18: make me want to physically harm you. You know what
• 52:40
  Speaker 18: I'm saying. So I just always put that into music.
• 52:43
  Speaker 18: You know, it's wrong, it's uncut. It's how I feel
• 52:45
  Speaker 18: most people scared to say how they feel. It's just
• 52:48
  Speaker 18: how you gonna help somebody get through life if you
• 52:50
  Speaker 18: can't communicate what you going through.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: You know, I feel like it's a thin line between
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: like the type of music got you making. So it's
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: so nostalgic to me because it's like, Nah's my favorite
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: rapper of all time, right, and Na's always he was
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: always like a positive vibe, but he was never a
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: positive rapper, Like you know what I'm saying. He's still
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: a street dude, but he could always get a message
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: of positivity where it's like some of the like more
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: they put you in a box. It's a positive rapper,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: it's hard to ever get out that box.
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: You.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I kind of look at like that like like it
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: was written, like you know what I'm saying. When I
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: listened to your music and it's like Big Farmer do
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: some more dope than Big Niche. You know what I'm saying.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: It's messages.
• 53:33
  Speaker 17: It's a fact though, but it's vibes.
• 53:35
  Speaker 12: Like you know what I'm saying, it's vibe.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: You got the Cardier frames on. It's it's not ultra
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: preachy do that on purpose.
• 53:41
  Speaker 17: So I'm front like, Bro just said, we're from the Bay.
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 53:45
  Speaker 17: You know what I'm saying. We from the Panthers.
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.
• 53:48
  Speaker 18: We were gonna have some information. But at the same time,
• 53:51
  Speaker 18: this shit in us, it ain't on us. It's it's
• 53:53
  Speaker 18: Is'm Bro. I grew up knocking women playing ball.
• 53:57
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 53:57
  Speaker 18: I was that nigga in school. I didn't get hot
• 53:59
  Speaker 18: in music and became cool. I was always cool, you
• 54:03
  Speaker 18: know what I'm saying before I was doing music, you
• 54:06
  Speaker 18: know what I'm saying. So it's like that has to
• 54:08
  Speaker 18: be shown in the music. And that's no offense to
• 54:11
  Speaker 18: you know, the spiritual rappers or the conscious rappers, because
• 54:14
  Speaker 18: we need them too. But at the same time, Bro,
• 54:17
  Speaker 18: it's a lack of cool niggas you know what I
• 54:19
  Speaker 18: mean in the industry, and we all just can't be
• 54:22
  Speaker 18: on this gangster shit just shooting everybody. It's just like, bro,
• 54:26
  Speaker 18: come on, we all ain't killing everybody. Bro, It's more
• 54:29
  Speaker 18: good going on in the ghetto than bad. It's just
• 54:31
  Speaker 18: the bad it's more publicized, you know what I'm saying.
• 54:34
  Speaker 18: I'm just here to speak on the good and call
• 54:36
  Speaker 18: out the sucker shit like bro, sit.
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: You know so so that that moment that La leak
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: is freestyle, I feel like that's when the world was
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: put on noted.
• 54:44
  Speaker 17: For sure, that sure I was coming for sure?
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: What was the more?
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: How did that more feel to you? Like you've been
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: working at this right and you've got this moment to
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: Sean and if exploded? What was that moment that what
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: it feels like to you at that time?
• 54:56
  Speaker 18: About damn Tom, I've been out here both Bro, I
• 55:02
  Speaker 18: didn't look at my big brother, small big.
• 55:05
  Speaker 17: Brother right there.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: Hurricane yeah, bay area.
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: So you know, be having a black cloud on it,
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: you feel.
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, there's a lot of talent in the Bay,
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: but it don't really get shown to break out, what
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: you think, because but now I'm saying, you know, individuals
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: such as yourself, LaRusso, and I feel like the internet
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: allows you to navigate that black cloud you feel when
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: you was in then coming out of the game Number one,
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: who did you look up to in the Bay Area
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: and did you feel like being a Bay Area rapper
• 55:35
  Speaker 7: you was gonna have that cloud and not be able to.
• 55:36
  Speaker 17: Expand on For sure. That was the reason I moved out.
• 55:40
  Speaker 18: Like I grew up on Short forty, Max dre Keithy,
• 55:43
  Speaker 18: Sneak turf Talk, you know what I mean. Like I
• 55:46
  Speaker 18: grew up listening to Bay music. But my mom, my
• 55:49
  Speaker 18: mom bury business minded. So my mom was in the
• 55:52
  Speaker 18: real estate early, so she had homes in Texas, Vegas,
• 55:56
  Speaker 18: Atlantic City, and I would always move around as a kid.
• 56:00
  Speaker 18: I know this Bay music wasn't being played in these places,
• 56:03
  Speaker 18: and then when I would play it, people wouldn't get it,
• 56:05
  Speaker 18: you know what I mean.
• 56:05
  Speaker 17: The tempo might beat you fast or whatever it may be.
• 56:09
  Speaker 18: So when I started doing music, I was like, damn,
• 56:11
  Speaker 18: I want to be the person that keep that bait
• 56:13
  Speaker 18: authenticity in my content but still make the sound of
• 56:17
  Speaker 18: it universal enough to where the world could get it.
• 56:20
  Speaker 18: And I feel like in the Bay the reason we
• 56:22
  Speaker 18: got that black cloud is because we got a limited
• 56:25
  Speaker 18: amount of black people in California, you feel me. So
• 56:28
  Speaker 18: when you going to South, you got black restaurant owners,
• 56:31
  Speaker 18: black hookah spot owners, black car washes, which gives black
• 56:35
  Speaker 18: music more platforms.
• 56:37
  Speaker 17: Right over here we got very minimum of that.
• 56:40
  Speaker 18: So I feel like a lot of artists feel like
• 56:42
  Speaker 18: it's a certain amount of seats and success or when
• 56:45
  Speaker 18: somebody else win, it like they took your spot.
• 56:48
  Speaker 17: When it's like, nah, we all could win.
• 56:50
  Speaker 18: We just got to ask questions and communicate with each
• 56:52
  Speaker 18: other to figure out a way to help each other
• 56:54
  Speaker 18: get to the goal.
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: Yeap, I rock with up.
• 56:57
  Speaker 18: Your mom was in real estate? Are you invested in
• 57:00
  Speaker 18: I'm getting into it. I'm getting into it. My mom
• 57:02
  Speaker 18: been on me about it for years. I just been
• 57:05
  Speaker 18: so psycho with this rap, just driven, just tunnel vision,
• 57:09
  Speaker 18: you know what I mean. I ain't want to do
• 57:10
  Speaker 18: nothing else. But now that you know, my finances is
• 57:13
  Speaker 18: growing and I'm getting a lot better, my mom put
• 57:16
  Speaker 18: me in position to do a lot of shit. I'm
• 57:17
  Speaker 18: actually trying to get a duplex right now, you feel me.
• 57:20
  Speaker 18: So that's definitely something I want to get into. And
• 57:23
  Speaker 18: after my rap career, I want to be an architect,
• 57:26
  Speaker 18: you know what I mean? So I want to design
• 57:27
  Speaker 18: homes and buildings and kitchens and all kinds of things.
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: What it's about, That's what it's about.
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: So obviously the freestyle goes crazy, the goats that goes
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: out going crazy to shout out to that, we all go, yeah,
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: how have the business opportunities been a coming to you?
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: Like how people approach you? What's your status of independent?
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: Where what's going to come here?
• 57:46
  Speaker 18: So I'm on a major, I'm signed to Atlantic, but
• 57:48
  Speaker 18: I move like I'm independent, you know what I mean.
• 57:51
  Speaker 18: We actually getting ready to start my label. I don't
• 57:54
  Speaker 18: like calling it a label, but that's how most people
• 57:56
  Speaker 18: can understand what it is. But we're getting ready to
• 57:58
  Speaker 18: start our company and it's called Majority Rules, and the
• 58:02
  Speaker 18: whole idea of it is to be a brochure for artists. Right,
• 58:05
  Speaker 18: So when artists get this money when they first get signed,
• 58:08
  Speaker 18: don't nobody tell you what to do with it, right,
• 58:10
  Speaker 18: You just get the money and it's like, I ain't
• 58:11
  Speaker 18: never had it. So I'm finna go get all the
• 58:13
  Speaker 18: clothes I want it. I'm finna go knock the bitch
• 58:15
  Speaker 18: I couldn't get two months ago. I'm finna go get
• 58:18
  Speaker 18: the crib. I'm finna go eat where I couldn't eat right,
• 58:21
  Speaker 18: and then you look back three months down the line
• 58:23
  Speaker 18: and you broke, and then you're looking at the label
• 58:25
  Speaker 18: like what y'all doing. Y'all supposed to be helping me
• 58:27
  Speaker 18: get money when it's like in a actuality nigga, you
• 58:29
  Speaker 18: was supposed to take that money and go get an
• 58:31
  Speaker 18: independent publicist, you feel me, Go get a camera man,
• 58:34
  Speaker 18: Go get a strategic go get a digital team. So
• 58:37
  Speaker 18: we want to be the people that signed digital teams,
• 58:39
  Speaker 18: sign creative people, signed producers and songwriters. So when artists
• 58:43
  Speaker 18: get that money, they can come to us and we
• 58:44
  Speaker 18: could break it down. Okay, bro, this is just a
• 58:47
  Speaker 18: producer you could work with. It's somebody that can help
• 58:49
  Speaker 18: you creatively, and they'll have an infrastructure up under them
• 58:51
  Speaker 18: and they ain't gotta lose so much money in the
• 58:53
  Speaker 18: process of doing that.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Now, I think what you represent is very important because,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: like you said, it's like I can just regular people
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: in the music business. Everybody's a drug addict, everybody's a killer,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: but it's like the majority of people aren't like that.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: And when I hear you speak, you sound sober, and
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: that's something that is rare. That's rare.
• 59:14
  Speaker 17: I'm saw stup on the tequila right now, by the way.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: But even when I say sober, I just don't mean
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: from drugs. I mean yes, humility, just yeah. You just
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: sound like you got common sense, like you know what
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I appreciate that. I think a lot
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: of times we talked to artists and it's like, damn, bro, like,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: just speak to me like a regular person.
• 59:34
  Speaker 18: But it's like some of them don't know how you
• 59:36
  Speaker 18: know what I mean, Like some of these kids where
• 59:38
  Speaker 18: you gotta think you have a little TOUTO from Jacksonville, Florida, right,
• 59:45
  Speaker 18: and he made a song in his closet with his
• 59:47
  Speaker 18: homies about some issues they was having with some niggas
• 59:50
  Speaker 18: from up the street, and some little suburban kid posted
• 59:53
  Speaker 18: this on TikTok and it went viral and the world
• 59:57
  Speaker 18: found out about it, and then labels started calling them.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 18: They flying him to La, they throwing him in these
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 18: big studios, they putting them with the producers. He don't
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 18: even know what to do. It's all new for him.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 18: He ain't never had to sit in front of a
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 18: camera and talk to nobody. Like I said, I've been
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 18: popular in my whole life, So I had to argue
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 18: with my teachers, you know what I'm saying. I had
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 18: to fight with my basketball coach. Like I'm used to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 18: talking to people. Some people in them environments, they're not
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 18: used to talking or telling what's going on. So we
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 18: can't blame them for that. We just have to educate
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 18: them and help them navigate through that. But at the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 18: same time, niggas gotta want to help.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: Man, you didn't been on a lot of platforms, man,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: Jimmy Kimmel.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: People like, it's interesting because I feel like, kind of
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: like myself right when somebody's seen me on the platform,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: it's like something that's not supposed to be there.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: It's an enigma. You feel me, and somehow you challenge
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 8: that and navigate. Like I feel like we're in an
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 8: era where it's a glitch and a matrix.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: You feel me, and it ain't even really a question
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: more so about you know, maintaining that integrity that you got.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 8: You understand me just along that path, because I could
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 8: just see the future.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: Are you growing and see the brand developing and people
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: really rocking with that, and you're creating a whole new
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: archetype that people can follow as a blueprint.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 8: You understand me.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: People love Nipsey because of what he represented. You feel me,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: and then you got that same representation.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 18: So half of the shit I'm speaking on and how
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 18: I was able to find out about this information was
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 18: from Nipsey. I met Nipsey in twenty twelve and eight
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 18: three Sea Fence in Atlanta. And this is when the
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 18: wee cookies that just came out right, and we was
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 18: the only niggas with cookies in the bay. So we
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 18: got something to the eighth right. We was in the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 18: club club compound smoking and I feel somebody tap me.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 18: He like, hey, bro, y'all got some of that for
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 18: sale with y'all smoking, you feel me? I'm like, man,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 18: it's some new shit. I'm like, nigg I'm a fan
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 18: of you. I ain't gonna sell you no weed, but
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 18: we could smoke together.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 12: You feel me.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 18: He talked it up that night. He gave me his number.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 18: He said, man, whenever you in La, hit me. I
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 18: lied to the nigger. I say, I live in La.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 18: I'll be there Monday.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 12: You feel me?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: He like, all right in me.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 17: I flew back to the bait, got my car and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 17: drove to La.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 12: You feel me?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 17: I ain't have a.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 18: Hotel room nothing. I just drove out there and I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 18: got to the Grapevine. I was like, bro, I'm in LA.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 18: I just got back where you at. Twenty minutes later
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 18: he sent me an address. He said, I'm at the studio.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: Pull up.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 18: I went to the studio. You had a studio downtown.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 18: Went to the studio, uh, and we had a conversation.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 18: He gave me his book, The twenty two Immutable Laws
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 18: of Brandon Right, and that book taught me how to
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 18: stop looking at myself as an individual and how to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 18: grow my identity as a business.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 18: So everything that I'm speaking on majority rules, The reason
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 18: I stuck in that one lane and just rapping it
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 18: comes from that book that Nip gave me.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 17: So rest in peace to.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 15: The goat man.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: That's a fact. So the album is on the way, sir.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: They always say you got your whole life to make
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: your first album, that's sir, at three months to make
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: it second?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 8: Sir?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: Do you feel any pressure for this debut?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: Right, because obviously we come up, we know Ellmatic and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: we know we know these debuts obviously get rich of
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: not trying.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: What what's the emotional building up to this moment.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 18: Man, My thing bro is just really it ain't even
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 18: about like trying to go platinum or like impressing everybody.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 18: It's just more so fine and where more of my
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 18: fans are, you know what I mean? Knowing what they
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 18: like to drink, knowing what they like to eat, knowing
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 18: where they like to shop. That's really what I'm most
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 18: excited about. So I don't really feel no pressure because
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 18: I don't get into other people's expectations of what they
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 18: feel I should be doing, you know what I mean.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 18: And I didn't done this for too long, and I'm
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 18: damn good at it, you know what I mean. So
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 18: I know anything I drop it ain't gonna be wet,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 18: you know what I mean.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 17: So I'm I'm I don't.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 18: I don't feel no pressure at all. I'm just really
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 18: excited to get the music out more than anything.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: All Right, we got, we got, we gotta rap. But
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: it's just one last thing I want to say. Not
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: even a question, it's a request.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 12: Okay.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I met all three of you now, and I'm glad
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: that I met all three of you. You were actually
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: how I thought you would be. I would like to
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: see this collaboration Toby, Benny and Simba.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 17: Easy call Benny my brother. I just was with Bennie
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 17: last night, gotta be.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: I never met Toby, but I'm a big fan of
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: super Bowl through Humble, big fan of his big put
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: it together. Appreciate you.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 17: We're gonna make sure we link back up too.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: Not for sure, I'm gonna keep going forward to move,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: but I like that.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Listen, all right, We're here with the lovely beer. Thank
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: you for joining us. Appreciate it, appreciated vibes. How you
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: how you how you like the BT experience the weekend?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: This is your first time coming?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 19: Actually yeah, this is my first real This is actually
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 19: my first real time coming. It's my first time being nominated.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 19: So it's a different it's a different vibe.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: What's that what's that feeling like when you heard the
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: news that something that you created is now being recognized
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: from people that look like us, a platform that's built
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: by us.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: What's that feeling like?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 19: When you know you watched the BT Awards your whole
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 19: life and I've always been an artist, It's like, when
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 19: am I gonna get on the BET Awards? What am
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 19: I gonna get on the BET Awards? And now it's
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 19: just like it's just surreal. It's like it really happened.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 19: I'm like, it's crazy. God is great man for real.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 8: I'm imma ask you something a little different. I've been
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 8: lately saying it's.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: Something called soft life, where it's like, because you got
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 7: a very soft voice, but at the same time, in
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: command's presence, you understand me. And the soft life is
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: about like black and brown women not needing to be
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: displayed like tough, but they can be softening, feminine energy
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: and like show joy and laughter. You feel me what
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: you feel about that.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: I love that you say that.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 19: Nobody ever says anything like that, and I'm glad because
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 19: you know, I grew up in an era where it
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 19: was like the nineties, early two thousands, it was very
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 19: like Aliyah, and you know, it was just a different vibe.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 19: It was very like Flag Girls, and you know, just
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 19: a different vibe. So I've always felt like, as an artist,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 19: I just want to be myself and whoever that translates
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 19: with is who it translates with, and just not have
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 19: to fit into a mold that people wanted me to
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 19: fit into. When I first started making music.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: That's beautiful.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 8: I love it.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 19: I appreciate that.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: So how was it like working with Coole? I was
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: like working with j Cole.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 11: Oh, Cole is amazing.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 12: Man.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 19: Cole's actually like my favorite artist to this day, like
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 19: just because of who he is as a person and
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 19: like not only how talented he is and the way
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 19: he pushes his pen, Like he make me every time
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 19: I go in the booth. Now I'm like, I got
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 19: to push my pen for real, like j Cole is
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 19: watching me.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: I can't lett J Cole dew.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: That song is dope, The video is dope. The whole
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: London vibe is dope. What inspired that?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 19: It's crazy because we love London and I think Jake
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 19: Cole actually spent some time in London too, like extended
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 19: period of time. So when we had a show out there,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 19: so we were just gearing up to go to London
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 19: and I was like, all right, I'm getting in my
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 19: London bag and I just like to have fun when
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 19: I'm in the studio, and that's what that song was.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 19: I wasn't even expecting Jake Cole to get on it, like,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 19: to be honest, I just wanted to play it for him.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 7: What about Crypto, I've seen you do the collaboration with
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 7: the crypto actually did like a little remix to it
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: because I love that fact. Could I always say, you know,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 7: I say crypto in your person, not in your wallet.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 8: Right, That's how I teach it to women.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: So what do you feel about the industry of women
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 7: actually understanding this new age financial technology and stuff.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 19: Well, I just feel like as a woman, the more
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 19: things you can put your money into, the better, Like
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 19: whether that be real estate, whether that be a makeup brand,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 19: whether that be a salon. Crypto, Like, for me, crypto
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 19: was so scary at first because I'm like, I don't
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 19: know much about stocks, but it's actually like a lot
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 19: easier once you get your foot in and you just
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 19: try it out more. People need to just like do
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 19: a little bit of crypto and then take it a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 19: little bit and grow. You're really good with the crypto
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 19: I know about you.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: You got some tips.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 19: Anything I should anything I should invest.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: In while I'm here?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: What are you invested in?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 19: Like random stuff? But like stocks that like people will
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 19: tell me like, oh, you should invest in this. I
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 19: might go get a couple of those, but really stuff
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 19: that like I use in the long term, So like
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 19: I have a lot of like long term stocks.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: And like just stuff like that about say, we're not
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: investing in bout tago.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 19: Actually I haven't.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: I haven't.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: They got to like pay me for me to invest
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: in them.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: For so obviously being a newer artist, what's it been
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: like for you being accepted in this industry?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: Like, I feel like we came in with such a
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: heat rock. It was like who is this girl? We
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: love her? What's it been like for you just over
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: this past year?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 19: Well, most people know I'm not a newer artist, like
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 19: I've been out for like ten years. It's just I
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 19: was like shelled. I had like a situation that wasn't
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 19: right for me at the for a while, so nobody
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 19: really knew my music like that. People just knew me,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 19: you know. So now I'm at the point where people
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 19: are able to attach the face with the music and
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 19: now they see like, oh, it's a real person.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: It's been a glass so ten years, yeah, they didn't
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: know And now that what is that experience been?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 13: Yo?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 19: Finally it feels like hard work pays off and it
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 19: really just feels like you can never stop the motion,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 19: like it's always gonna be up and down motion.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: You just gotta find your motion.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: How is life for you these days? I know, like
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: once you get up and running, everything comes at you
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: and so many people hitting you up. It's hard to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: answer text messages like are you enjoying that? Because I
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: already know you going through it because we go through it.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Yo, is a question you just asked.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 19: That's a great question.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Join out you feel guilty about Like that's the.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 19: Hardest part for me. It's like finding that balance of
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 19: like I'm so busy and I love being busy, Like
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 19: I would never not want to be as busy as
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 19: I am now. But it's like finding sleep, find and eat,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 19: finding family, like those things are not being able to
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 19: respond right away because it's like people think that I'm
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 19: at the dispos on my.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Phone and I do not have my phone nine times
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: out of ten, so.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 19: You know, people take it's like everything gets people take
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 19: it way more personal and they don't know what it's
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 19: like on this life.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, on everything.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, pleasure get into you.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, bro appreciate it. I said,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: thank you for joining I appreciate it.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 16: It's fun again, I ain't something like this, you know,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 16: in a minute. Even bringing the culture together the dude,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 16: you know, the pol taking the culture is different.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: So so we see you at a lot of different events.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: What's the what's the power of networking? A lot of
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: times people artists, entertainers, entrepreneurs, they don't fully understand, Like
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: even this room right here, right going around, you probably
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: might not even want to do this, But what's the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: power of networking getting out there, making relationships, shaking hand
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: things to that?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 16: Na shuld I think there's a simple beauty and collaboration,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 16: you know. However you can imagine that.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 16: I feel like everybody's passion is like a puzzle piece,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 16: you know, so everybody gotta like somehow come together we
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 16: make the picture, you know, and you never know who
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 16: you might meet on any given day, you know. And
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 16: I feel like, you know, obviously, bringing people together in
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 16: one room, it's almost like a free for all, you know.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 16: So it's really about what you do with it. You know,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 16: you got to be a people person. You can't be
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 16: you can't be shot, you can't be.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 15: Quiet.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 16: You know, speak up, you know, speak speak your truth,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 16: you know, speak your story, you know, and the rest
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 16: is history.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, one of the things you spoke about is
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: passions and so we've seen you with the music.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: Obviously that's one of your passions. But I think people
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: have underrated you in the acting field. That's one of
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: the things that you know, seeing you in power.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: What did you discover the power the passion for acting.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 16: I think growing up being exposed to so much at
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 16: a young age, and that's just like traveling so many
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 16: different places, being exposed to so many different cultures, like
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 16: culture shocks, you know, which ultimately allows you to grow
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 16: at a young age early, you know, and you're able
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 16: to really like become a chameleon, you know, and so
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 16: on top of who I am and my personality, you know,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 16: my mom always you know how they say, boy, you're
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 16: a character. You know, like you say that every day
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 16: for years. You know, eventually you become one, you know,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 16: but still you're you. And she was like, you know,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 16: they got to industry for that. But I would never
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 16: really want to, you know, claim it up until obviously
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 16: I was growing up and realize, oh, this is a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 16: space for me. Actually, I thought you had to just
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 16: be like picked, you know, I ain't know you can
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 16: actually like put yourself forward and you know, really do it.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 15: Back then when she was telling me, So she's all
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 15: about growing.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 8: You know what about legacy?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 7: Man? I feel like your family as a family of brothers,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 7: each one of you all have your own individual presence,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 7: but collectively y'all represent a legacy.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 8: You understand me.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: And I was just looking up some as far as like,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: you know, y'all do the dances and dancing it's one
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 7: of the most spiritual rituals known to man. And y'all
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 7: like bring energy and joy at the same time. And
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 7: y'all representation. You understand me, y'all bring people together. What
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 7: do you feel like just as a collective and as individual,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 7: what y'all represent for the culture as a family of
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: like black men putting out that energy.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 15: You know, family is everything.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 16: Not to sound cliche, but you know, growing up you
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 16: realize that importance, and you realize the unity and that
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 16: and the power and that and where that could go.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 16: And then next thing, you know, friends become family, and
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 16: then next thing you know, you know what I mean,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 16: it's that effect and nothing beats that. And I feel
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 16: like whatever we want to do and apply that factor,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 16: it's a no brainer. You know, it's almost like an
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 16: instant success, you know what I mean. It's almost founded
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 16: off love, you know what I mean, unity, you know,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 16: but then spread with love and unity as well, you know,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 16: And I feel like that's the real you know, that's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 16: what brings us together.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like you're very talented with the music, acting
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: through fashion. How do you know what to focus your
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: energy on, because sometimes you can spread yourself too thin
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: and be like all over the place. So how do
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: you personally know? Like, this is what I'm doubling down
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: on right now.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 16: You know, I'm big on timing, you know, And I
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 16: feel like who I am as a person, who are
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 16: who we are as people. We we go through different
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 16: stages and where we want to get off what we
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 16: feel like, you know, we want to put out, you know,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 16: into the world. And I feel like with me doing
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 16: the act and me doing the music, sometimes it is
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 16: hard to juggle. I like to say it balances itself.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 16: One doesn't really occupy the other. But then at the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 16: end of the day, I'm trying to bring it all
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 16: together through my music. You're gonna hear the fashion in
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 16: the music. You're gonna hear them the characters I'm playing
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 16: in my music. I may can't go directly to that
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 16: place but I can like perform it in a way
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 16: where you know that character is, you know that person
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 16: going through it. Right now, I'm over that, but I
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 16: still want you to feel feel that. I felt like
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 16: I need to make a song about it, you know.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 16: So it is you know, tough, you know, but then
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 16: it balances itself out and that's rewarding. Everybody has their
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 16: good days bad days, you know. I feel like that's
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 16: the timing with almost like how I juggle, you know,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 16: the things I like to put my heart into.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: It's funny.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: Well, Kes, you brought up legacy, so I wonder sometimes
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: you do you feel the pressure like obviously the siblings
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: we know the family business, but do you feel pressure
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: to continue the legacy.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Or you more on that lane where you know what
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: that is a legacy? I need to create my own
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: step in this world? Is the pressure?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 16: There By default, I'm contributing to the legacy, you know,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 16: And I feel like that speaks volumes in itself. You know,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 16: I'm not running away from the legacy, so therefore it's
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 16: only adding to it. And I feel like the extension
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 16: of my brother and my sisters, even you know, they
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 16: gonna go into a whole different industry that we ain't
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 16: never seen.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 15: But it's not gonna be a separate legacy.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 16: That's gonna be an extension that's gonna just continue the
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 16: legacy overall. So I think that's a beautiful thing about
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 16: the family, Like you said, the unity and all and
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 16: how we really pushing the culture and putting that first,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 16: you know what.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 7: About I'm saying what Snoop doing with his son and
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 7: everything in a Web three space and the NFTs and everything.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 7: Do y'all have any projects y'all working on? You understand me?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 7: In that space to push things for it.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 16: We definitely been having all types of zooms, the log
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 16: the knowledge behind it all, you know, especially with my Pops.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 15: You know, he really wants to know it, you know.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 16: So it's a constant learning experience, I think for him
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 16: and all of us because he comes up with questions
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 16: sometimes might stump us and we got to go back
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 16: and you know, uh find two three different you know,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 16: variations of the answer, so he can really understand it.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 15: So it's just not one sided.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 16: And I respect him because he's made me like step
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 16: my game up and then learned about the space too,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 16: because you know, it's very very very interesting. But until
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 16: you can really grasp it, you know, that's when he
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 16: really wants to then step foot in. We're definitely definitely
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 16: he dodn'et cop the couple, you know, he cop the ab,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 16: he doesn't cop the punk, you know.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 15: So he's he's slow but sure in the space.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 8: And you know, we all are, like I.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 15: Said, about to become active.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, before.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Before we rap, I just want to ask you, what's
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: your plans going forward? What's on your five year ten
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: year vision board.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 16: Well, you know, with the space of TV, film and music,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 16: I feel like that's the timeless industry that I want
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 16: to just explore from a to Z.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 15: I haven't even activated anything.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 16: In my artistry shows, uh, touring, you know, so that's
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 16: on the lighter end of things. But I want to
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 16: travel more, you know, and really you know, step outside
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 16: the box of you know, what I've done. I feel
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 16: like the pandemic taught me a lot and there's a
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 16: lot to be done, and it was a learning experience,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 16: you know, for me and a lot of people. But
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 16: I think this next five is probably going to be
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 16: the most exciting five years of my life, you know,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 16: especially you know, I'm thirty third level, you know, so
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 16: it's almost like a real reset. So that road to
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 16: thirty five is about to be a crazy one, Yo, it's.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: The coaches biggest night. Who you most excited to see?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 16: Man, I'm excited to see it because my pops has
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 16: not let us come to rehearsals, and so I'm excited
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 16: to see what.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 15: My pops, you know, cause he's in on some he's
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 15: not in on some, so but we ain't in on none.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 7: So I mean that last question because your pops is interesting.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: He stays connected to what's going on. And I think
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: I seen him one time it was somebody that was popping.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 7: It was like, well, I don't know about them, you understand, Mean,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 7: what's that process like of making sure, like do y'all
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 7: bring people to him? His attention to make sure, Like, Yo,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 7: you got to stay interconnected so you don't lose grip
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 7: of this.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 15: Absolutely. I like to say I bought him Drake before
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 15: Drake dawayne Uh, he.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 8: Didn't get it.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 16: But beyond that, it's it's all about timing, you know,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 16: because sometimes he could be having a great day and
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 16: you show him something and he like it, and it
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 16: could be a bad day. You show him something great
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 16: and he just not being the move for it. But
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 16: it'd be something just as great as you need to hear.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 15: So I think we're just.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 16: Consistent on what we're passionate about, you know, putting in
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 16: front of him. We know we ain't about to bring
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 16: him no bs, or he knows we ain't about to
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 16: bring him no bs, so he tries to take that
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 16: into consideration first, like the saint, like listen to my mixtake.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 15: Listen to my mixtape. It ain't one of those.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 16: It's like, look, it's a reason I'm bringing this to you, pops.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 16: And I feel like he respects that. So we always
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 16: on him, you know what I mean? He on us too,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 16: you know what I mean. He be putting us on
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 16: like yo, you know this person, and we'd be like, wow,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 16: he beat us, he found him first.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, now that's what's up.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 7: I work with my pops, like we'll do video content
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 7: together and if people love it, and just that demonstration
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 7: of like a son being able to work with they father,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 7: it's like legacy in the present, you understand me, not
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 7: like let's remember what happened. But I think that's probably
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 7: one of the most powerful demonstrations y'all have as a family.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 15: I appreciate that.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 16: We gonn promise to continue to keep that going most definitely,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 16: that's what it's about.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thank you for the time we met a
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: few times in passing, and one thing I'll say, your
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: humility is definitely infectious. You just kind of get a
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: vibe for a person. That's every time that I met you.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: You've just been super humble, super down the earl, super relatable,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: and that's something that you know we appreciate.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 15: So I appreciate y'all. I'm sure we don't have many
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 15: more running.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Too, so again, respect y'all. Taraji p Henson, thank you
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: for joining us. I appreciate you for having me so
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: icon it in the game, A true legend. How have
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: you been able to navigate Hollywood and state relevant for
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: almost for twenty years now, a little.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 11: Over twenty years.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: I haven't gotten rid of my real ones. I still
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: have them.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 10: I have an incredible family that keeps me grounded, and
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 10: I just understand what this is about, Like this artist
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 10: bigger than me. It has like God gave this gift
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 10: to me to share with the world and change and
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 10: touch lives and that's what it's about. So for me,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 10: it's not really about the vanity. I mean, I like
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 10: to be cute and stuff like that because I'm a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 10: girly girl. But at the end of the day, I
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 10: understand my purpose and I know why I'm doing what
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 10: I do.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 6: Let's talk about why we're all here BT Awards to
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: celebrate us, to celebrate us, and they got the right
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: person host, I think, so, yeah, So this is not
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: your first time hosting in a debt, what can we
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: expect from from the.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: Show this weekend?
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 10: I think y'all gonna love this year's thing. So last
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 10: year we focused on the queens, but you know, we
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 10: ain't nothing with our y'all. So this this, yeah, because
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 10: I know thise like a lot of times we like
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 10: to make little jokes and stuff about the men, and
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 10: I'm like, we can't do that. You know, they get
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 10: beat up on enough in the world, right, So what
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 10: we gonna do here is celebrate y'all. We celebrate you,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 10: lifting you up those that came before, those are here now,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 10: and just making aby sending you away with some hope
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 10: cause this world.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 11: Looking for another country to move.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 8: I feel like that's perfect because I feel like that's
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 8: the balance.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 7: Like I was talking with b about this earlier, so
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 7: young black women put me on call soft life for
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 7: women representing themselves softer instead of the images of women
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 7: having to be hard and.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 8: Tough, and it's like, no, you deserve to just laugh
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: and being your joy.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 7: And I feel like by lifting up men, they stand
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 7: in that position so that women can be soft as
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 7: they want to. You understand me what you feel about that,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: cause I feel like that goes into what you do
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 7: with mental health.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 10: Well, you know, we are all carrying generational trauma that
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 10: has been passed down to us that we don't we're
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 10: not even aware of, and until we get the help
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 10: and the healing that we need, we will be operating
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 10: dysfunctionally until we pinpoint our past traumas and a lot
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 10: of that stuff we don't even understand, cause it's just
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 10: like I said, it's been handed down. Like I wondered
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 10: one day, I'm really claustrophobic. I don't like being in
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 10: tight spaces.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: This is before COVID.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: Now I really don't like I'm crazy, and I'm like,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: I get you out here, but I'm very clusophobic.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 10: And I remember I had to play a sledg runaway slave.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 10: You ain't a star unless you played one. But I
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 10: remember they had to put me in this little compartment
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 10: under a wagon, a horse wagon, and I just remember
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 10: my body from Bulson. That's nothing that I that's not
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 10: speaking on anything that I've experienced in my lifetime. That
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 10: was clearly generational trauma from slavery. Cause what space have
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 10: I been in to provoke that kind of feeling, you know?
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 10: So my point is is that in things like the
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 10: things that black people have, and this is what makes
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 10: us so beautiful because you can oppress us. You can
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 10: kill our sons, you can do take our children from us,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 10: take our husbands from us. Guess who We're gonna always
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 10: tap into joy? We gonna find it. And that's that's
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 10: who we are.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: And I love that about us.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 10: And it's unfortunate that we are oppressed, but that's the
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 10: reason why we are because nobody can tap into this
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 10: joy like we. It's in us. No matter what you
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 10: try to do to us, we gonna make you feel better.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 10: That's a gift that we have, you know, And I
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 10: think the enemy is mad.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. We have the VT awards,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: we can you're hosting. How is it How important is
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: it for us to support DT Awards, Black Awards as
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: opposed to BOYCOTTI and complaining about other awards and always
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: saying that we're left out, we're not recognized, Like instead
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: of focusing that energy, they're how important is it to
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: focus our energy here?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 10: It's very important to focus our energy on us because
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 10: we alway have but at the end of the day,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 10: we always need. Like that's why I did my deal
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 10: with b Et. I'm sick of begging and can you
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 10: please this story they need? When I brought my first story,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 10: Queenie the Godmother of Harlem, that nobody knows about but
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 10: you know about Frank Gaston, you know I'm not Frank Lucas,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 10: and you know about Bumpy Johnson, but you don't know
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 10: they came from her and she didn't even sell drugs.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 10: So when I took this story to be Et, I
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 10: shopped it all over town. Nobody wanted it, and I'm like,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 10: that's because they don't really want our stories. You know,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 10: they really don't if the money's not they don't see numbers,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 10: they don't see how it can make them a profit.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 11: They don't care.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 10: And for me, I don't really care about the number
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 10: or the money. I care about the story because some
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 10: little black girls, some little brown boy needs to see themselves,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 10: you know, and needs to know this story. We need
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 10: to know our history. They already taking it out of school.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 10: So that's why I signed with BT, because I'm sick
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 10: and tired of begging and we don't need to beg
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 10: Look at where we are, we have all about.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 11: Why are we still begging?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 10: And worried about what the Grammys and the Oscars and
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 10: all of them do.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: They never wanted a thing.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: Anyway, except I mean, that's it. That's the freedom we're
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: talking about.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: So at this point now, is that more of the
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: focus writing stories that are authentic to us as opposed
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: to acting in stories that you know, wy.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 10: You do what you gotta do to get where you
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 10: need to be, and then you start making your own choice.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 10: You stop being a ball us and so that's you know.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 10: I'm at the position now where I create my own
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 10: doors to open, I create my own scripts, I create.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 11: Jobs for other people.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 10: So I hope that's what everybody's paying attention.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: They're gonna watch you do it. I hope it becomes
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: the inspiration.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: So the last one was yours.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: It wasn't a question just wanting to give your flowers
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 7: because I love what you're doing and everything you show
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 7: your exercise, you show your mental health journey, you show
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 7: your joy, you show the ups and downs of the pain.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 8: I think you showcased like a real person. Understand me.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 8: It's not one side, and I think that people need
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 8: to see that. Understand me and so not.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 7: Like that's why I'm saying, it's not a strong black
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 7: woman's a soft black woman.
• 1:26:45
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