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Credlin | 23 July · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pedo Krendlin live on Skyings Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the show. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Predline. More tonight on the CFMU. The New
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Speaker 2: South Wales Liberals referring labor links to the union to
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Speaker 2: IKAC in Victoria. Though the Premier is trying to bury
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Speaker 2: the truth with a sham inquiry. They can't compel witnesses
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Speaker 2: and will hold its hearings in secret. All the while
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Speaker 2: our Prime ministers is there's no grounds to bring back
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Speaker 2: the Building Watchdog Now. I reported this last night, the
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Speaker 2: lucrative scholarships being offered to employees of the Palestinian Authority
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Speaker 2: amongst others. With your reactions anything to go by? This
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Speaker 2: has you concerned? I have more and this shortly, including
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Speaker 2: reports of terrorism links to the major Palestinian university and
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Speaker 2: still a lot of detail missing despite my questions to
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Speaker 2: Penny Wong. Plus we're on track for a record year
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Speaker 2: of construction industry insolvencies this year.
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Speaker 3: So what's the government's plan.
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Speaker 2: We know they want to build one point two million homes,
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Speaker 2: but you can't get there if all the builders are
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Speaker 2: going busted ross Greenwood with more and in a rare
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Speaker 2: moment of bipartisanship. Both the Democrats and the Republicans have
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Speaker 2: rounded on the Director of Secret Services. More questions mounts
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Speaker 2: over how close Trump was to be assassinated.
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Speaker 4: Have you provided all audio and video recordings in your
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Speaker 4: possession to this committee as we asked on July fifteenth?
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Speaker 5: Yes or no?
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Speaker 3: I would have to get back to you that as
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Speaker 3: a no, you're full of if.
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Speaker 6: You're horrifying an aptitude in your lack of skilled leadership
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Speaker 6: is a disgrace.
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Speaker 7: It is my firm belief Director Cheetle that you should resign.
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Speaker 3: It was a shocker there for her today.
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Speaker 2: I'll take you through all of those hearings a bit
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Speaker 2: later in the show, but first, it's bad enough for
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Speaker 2: the Victorian government's review into the rotten culture of the
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Speaker 2: CFMAU is being handled by a public servant that reports
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Speaker 2: to the government rather than a retired judge or a
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Speaker 2: police officer accountable to the people. But the fact that
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Speaker 2: this review won't hold public hearings and doesn't have the
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Speaker 2: power to compel witnesses shows that this was always a
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Speaker 2: sham designed to give the government something to say rather
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Speaker 2: than a fairing. Can wait to bring about serious reform.
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Speaker 2: We know that this union has a history of extortion,
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Speaker 2: standover tactics, violence and organized crime links going back decades,
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Speaker 2: not just on the back of the allegations put to
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Speaker 2: war recently, but this is through the findings of successive
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Speaker 2: royal commissions going back to nineteen ninety two. So what's
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Speaker 2: the point of any inquiry that can't compel witnesses. Does
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Speaker 2: the Victorian Premier think that the guilty parties are lining
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Speaker 2: up to confess? Does she think that the mafia like
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Speaker 2: code of silence is about to break? Does she think
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Speaker 2: victimized contractors are suddenly going to put their hands up
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Speaker 2: and willingly testify against a union that's already known for
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Speaker 2: intimidating its enemies.
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Speaker 3: Well, of course she doesn't.
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Speaker 2: The Victorian Premier simply wants a review that goes over
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Speaker 2: what's already on the public record and then make some
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Speaker 2: vague recommendations about stronger supervision and better enforcement, recommendations that
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Speaker 2: in practice won't make a scrap of difference. You see,
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Speaker 2: the last thing the Allen government wants is the spectacle
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Speaker 2: of union heavies on the stand being grilled over what
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Speaker 2: they've done to increase costs in the building industry, and worse,
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Speaker 2: how they've done it with the connivance of labor politicians.
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Speaker 2: As Channel nine alleged, the Victorian government's one hundred billion
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Speaker 2: dollar big build is basically a honeypot for the CFMU.
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Speaker 8: So I'm telling losses, all my friends fill lot together.
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Speaker 8: I will take this to them. There can ask me
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Speaker 8: two questions. One why am I helping you? And two
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Speaker 8: they want to be because what they have to do
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Speaker 8: they have to loold the while they look at the
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Speaker 8: big bill, they look at it and say, orror, this
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Speaker 8: is yours. But to put you there and have to
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Speaker 8: move someone, so there's a fee to get the ABA.
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Speaker 8: I think that up front feees cash, but a going
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Speaker 8: to pay the voice, make sure they're okay, and that's it.
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Speaker 8: The business and everybody else.
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Speaker 2: As the former Infrastructure Minister under Daniel Andrews just enter,
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Speaker 2: Allan is after a fig leaf to obscure the fact
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Speaker 2: that the c if EVERU has been part of her
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Speaker 2: left faction political power base for years, as it was
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Speaker 2: for Andrews too and the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi. If
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Speaker 2: you want to know why building anything costs so much
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Speaker 2: and takes so long, the c if EVERU is your answer.
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Speaker 2: At least the federal government, which is just now asked
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Speaker 2: for a review of federally funded building projects to see whether
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Speaker 2: union criminality has impacted their costs, is alive to this issue.
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Speaker 2: You alive at least the public anger that the CFMU
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Speaker 2: allegations has unleashed, But don't hold.
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Speaker 3: Your breath for answers.
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Speaker 2: The Albert Easier review will take its time, but it'll
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Speaker 2: end up concluding that union's thugary is not at all
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Speaker 2: added to infrastructure costs. That's because labour's complicit and big
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Speaker 2: business too. They've all been tolerating the roads, the rackets,
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Speaker 2: the ripoffs for years because they know that in the
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Speaker 2: end you and I as taxpayers, have no choice but
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Speaker 2: to pay for it.
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Speaker 3: This is a whitewash.
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Speaker 2: Designed to make excuses for a really bad union and
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Speaker 2: really bad governments that have depended on it. At least
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Speaker 2: the Victorian opposition has promised a full Royal commission. Pity
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Speaker 2: that with these bad polls against labor there's still in
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Speaker 2: no position to win the next election. In the meantime,
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Speaker 2: the CFMU is being protected by a whole lot of
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Speaker 2: smokescreen inquiries designed to hide the facts until the media
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Speaker 2: cycle move on, rather than to expose them and end
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Speaker 2: them once and for all. Now, last night, you might
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Speaker 2: recall I mentioned the Victorian government's invitation to biological men
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Speaker 2: who identify as women to make submissions to an inquiry
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Speaker 2: into women's pain. Tonight, I'll discussing this with Nicole Flint,
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Speaker 2: the former Federal MP who quit the parliament in part
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Speaker 2: because of her chronic pain with endometriosis. Now, the more
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Speaker 2: I think of it, the more enraged I am. The
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Speaker 2: Victorian government's making a mockery of women's pain by inviting
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Speaker 2: trans women or biological men to make submissions on this issue,
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Speaker 2: as if they feel the pain too. Now, maybe it
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Speaker 2: makes sense to invite trans men former women to make
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Speaker 2: submissions about period pain and menopausal pain. They, despite taking
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Speaker 2: male hormones police, may.
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Speaker 3: Still have a uterus.
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Speaker 2: But asking biological men have never had a uterus to
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Speaker 2: comment on female specific pain is nothing but a capitulation
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Speaker 2: to the militant trans lobby. It says something about how
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Speaker 2: crazy things are here in the People's Republic of Victoria.
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Speaker 2: But this kind of bs is not just tolerated, but
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Speaker 2: it's been enshrined at the heart of government. The Allen
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Speaker 2: government has set up this inquiry as part of a
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollar so called women's health transformation.
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Speaker 2: In launching it, the premiere said, this you took.
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Speaker 9: To many women in our community, and that they know
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Speaker 9: that there is a pain gap. There is a gendered
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Speaker 9: pain gap.
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Speaker 3: A gendered pain gap.
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Speaker 2: Or maybe she's right that a male dominated medical profession
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Speaker 2: has neglected women's issues. A recent survey suggested that some
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Speaker 2: forty percent of Victorian women lived with chronic pain. But
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Speaker 2: why invites and I quote anyone who identifies as a woman,
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Speaker 2: though they may have had a different sex and birth
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Speaker 2: to make a submission? What can biological males possibly know
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Speaker 2: about period pain, or menopause, or endometriosis for that matter,
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Speaker 2: no matter how many female hormones they might be taking.
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Speaker 2: But in a sign of the trans lobby's strength, a
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Speaker 2: prominent doctor who said that this whole exercise was just
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Speaker 2: more evidence than I quote of gender refferving care creating havoc.
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Speaker 2: Or that doctor has declined to be named for fear
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Speaker 2: of de registration. Now, once upon a time, this kind
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Speaker 2: of thing would have been regarded as a joke.
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Speaker 10: From now on, I want you all to call me
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Speaker 10: Loretta what it's my writer as.
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Speaker 9: A man, Why do you want to be the rattister?
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Speaker 3: I want to have babies.
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Speaker 11: You want to have babies.
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Speaker 3: To every man's right to have babies if he wants them.
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Speaker 3: But you can't have babies. Don't you oppress me.
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Speaker 5: I'm not pressing you standing.
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Speaker 3: I'm got a womb. Where's the venus gonna just take?
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Speaker 11: You're gonna keep it in a box.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got an idea. Suppose you agree that he
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Speaker 5: can't actually have babies, not having a womb, which is
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Speaker 5: nobody's fault, not even the Romans, but that he can
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Speaker 5: have the right to have babies.
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Speaker 2: Good idea, Judith, That's that's forty five years old. But
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Speaker 2: it's crazy in Victoria, that sort of mad comedy skit.
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Speaker 2: Well today it's government policy. How much do you love
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Speaker 2: BONDI path and I just wish it wasn't true in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's head the camera now. Tonight's Headlines with
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Speaker 2: Sky News political reporter Olivia Kaisley.
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Speaker 5: Good Evening.
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Speaker 9: The crowd strike outage is tipped to cost Aussie businesses
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Speaker 9: upwards of one billion dollars.
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Speaker 4: I can'tlogize enough.
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Speaker 9: As some explore their legal options. The software company says
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Speaker 9: it's open to talking about financial compensation.
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Speaker 7: So it's very variable and it's very difficult to say
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Speaker 7: in these early days what that impact has been financially
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Speaker 7: as well as otherwise.
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Speaker 9: The massive and widespread chaos unleashed by a simple update
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Speaker 9: gone wrong might see businesses change the way they engage
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Speaker 9: with software they license.
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Speaker 2: This was a mistake that we made and we will
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Speaker 2: learn from that mistake.
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Speaker 3: The Greens say.
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Speaker 9: The party's primary objective is to stop housing price growth.
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Speaker 9: In an interview with the Australian Green's housing spokesman Max
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Speaker 9: Chandler May says its policies aim to achieve a significant
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Speaker 9: decline in housing values over time so future generations have
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Speaker 9: a chance at buying a home. Mister Chandler May that
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Speaker 9: argues Labour's housing policies have led Australia to abandon the
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Speaker 9: party instead. The Greens have proposed reforms to the sector,
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Speaker 9: including phasing out negative gearing, rent freezers and rental caps.
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Speaker 12: Rates of government built housing good quality stuff, not traditional
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Speaker 12: public housing now where it's only made available to the
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Speaker 12: lowest income, some limits on rent increases, and attack system
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Speaker 12: geared towards people buying a house and living in it,
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Speaker 12: not turning it into an investment.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's get across those issues and some more headlines.
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Speaker 2: I'm joined now by One Nation Chief of Staff James
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Speaker 2: Ashby to do that and senior fellow at the Menzies
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Speaker 2: Research Center, Nick Cator, who joins us tonight from Romania. Gentlemen, welcome.
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Speaker 2: We'll start with the CFMU. We've had stories over several
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Speaker 2: weeks now. Despite all of that, Victorian Premie, though, has
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Speaker 2: rebuked calls for public hearings into the scandal. Instead, she
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Speaker 2: set up an inquiry to be run by a former
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Speaker 2: departmental bureaucrat, Greg Wilson. Even today, the Financial Reviews reporting
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Speaker 2: allegations at a high ranking CFMU official boasted about his
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Speaker 2: ability to secure a lucrative contracts on major construction sites
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Speaker 2: because he's got plenty of influence, he says, over superannuation,
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Speaker 2: Giant Sea Bus. At the same time, the Prime Minister, well,
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Speaker 2: he's refused to re establish the ABCC or any similar
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Speaker 2: body saying and had little effect, he says on union militancy.
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Speaker 2: We'll neck first to you. The public deserves an open inquiry.
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Speaker 2: But as we saw with Hotel quarantine in Victoria that
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Speaker 2: was devastating for labor. I mean, is this why Allan
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Speaker 2: wants all these hearings in secret, and while they've also
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Speaker 2: failed to give the inquiry any teeth. I mean, it
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Speaker 2: has no powers to compel witnesses or evidence. To my mind,
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Speaker 2: this is a sham just to buy a time until
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Speaker 2: the media cycle moves on.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's exactly right, Peter, and you've nailed it. I
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Speaker 7: think the more that comes out, the more this stinks,
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Speaker 7: as it does day by day, the less incentsive just
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Speaker 7: since Alan has for a Fulham Frank inquiry, and the
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Speaker 7: more incentive she has to try and brush this under
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Speaker 7: the carpet as best she can. So this is clearly
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Speaker 7: an inquiry that's designed to look like an inquiry but
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Speaker 7: won't have any of the transparency and openness that we
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Speaker 7: need in this area. The fundamental thing here, Peter, and
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Speaker 7: we can't say this often enough, is that labor is
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Speaker 7: very conflicted, extremely conflicted on this one. The trade union
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Speaker 7: movement is the largest vested interest in the country in
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Speaker 7: terms of the influence it brings to bear on this government,
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Speaker 7: probably followed closely by the renewable energy industry. Just quietly,
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Speaker 7: but they funded Labour's campaign, They fund Labour's existence very existence,
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Speaker 7: by the tunes of millions of dollars. So clearly, once
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Speaker 7: Labor gets in power, it has to pay that money off,
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Speaker 7: and it did exactly that by abolishing the a b CC,
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Speaker 7: and they have no hurry to put it back even
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Speaker 7: though it is clearly demonstrably needed right now.
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Speaker 2: The other difference, I'd say with the liberal side of
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Speaker 2: politics too. Yes, business might donate to the Liberal Party,
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Speaker 2: but they have no votes on any of the platform.
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Speaker 2: They have no votes inside the Liberal Party formally the unions.
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Speaker 2: Of course, they had a massive block of votes inside
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Speaker 2: Labor and they have a block of votes at the
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Speaker 2: convention where that platform is binding. The Liberal Party platform
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Speaker 2: where business do not have a vote, is not a
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Speaker 2: binding platform. But James the PM says today that no
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Speaker 2: effect at all the ABCC on union militancy. I beg
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Speaker 2: to differ dozens of convictions and millions in fines. He
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Speaker 2: doesn't want it back because he doesn't want to fight
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Speaker 2: with the left faction and the CFBU.
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Speaker 10: Well, we were part of that process of implementing the
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Speaker 10: ABCC and the Rocks Bill, and there was a number
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Speaker 10: of reforms made under the Coalition government at the time,
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Speaker 10: and I know that that Hayden Report played a very
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Speaker 10: significant determination role in certainly making our minds clear that
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Speaker 10: the ABCC had to be implemented. A lot of people
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Speaker 10: don't realize there was a locked file that very few
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Speaker 10: people got their hands on. I know that we had
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Speaker 10: to sign any agreements to be able to have a
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Speaker 10: look at that, just to be able to see the
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Speaker 10: militant behavior of some of these unions. Some unions are brilliant.
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Speaker 10: I've got to say, there's some really good unions out there.
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Speaker 10: But as for the CFMU, the abc C built was
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Speaker 10: specifically designed to curb the behavior of this group, and
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Speaker 10: more so in states like Victoria and Queensland. They were
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Speaker 10: just getting away with far too much. So as a result,
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Speaker 10: it's a tip for tat deal. As soon as Labor
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Speaker 10: got in the Prime Minister. What was one of the
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Speaker 10: first things he did, well, he scratched the unions back
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Speaker 10: for all of their support to get them elected at
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Speaker 10: this most recent federal election.
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Speaker 3: You are not wrong about that secret file too.
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Speaker 2: Let's go another issue, a review that's been kept very quiet.
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Speaker 2: It was established by the Immigration Minister Andrew Giles into
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Speaker 2: the treatment of migrants with disabilities and those with permanent
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Speaker 2: health conditions. The review's reports landed it recommends a whole
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Speaker 2: overhaul of the system with a view to give migrants
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Speaker 2: with disabilities, health issues and manageable conditions like HIV greater
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Speaker 2: opportunities to stay in Australia. Now, Nick, I make the point,
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Speaker 2: these are not Australian citizens. These are people who are
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Speaker 2: visiting US here, perhaps on a tourist visa or some
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Speaker 2: other visa, and up until now, in public policy terms,
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Speaker 2: we have chosen as a country not to let them
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Speaker 2: stay permanently, given the cost burden to taxpayers. So I
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Speaker 2: want to know what's changed here. What's the public policy
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Speaker 2: rationale to lift that bar? Because I tell you what,
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Speaker 2: you lift that bar, they'll want to come here, they'll
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Speaker 2: want to stay here because the NDIS is rivers of gold.
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Speaker 7: Well, nothing's changed, Peter. I mean, the horror implied of
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Speaker 7: some of these people and their children is real and serious,
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Speaker 7: and of course we have compassion for them. But in
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Speaker 7: terms of Australia's obligation to non citizens, I'm sorry, it
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Speaker 7: ends with people who are citizens of this country, and
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Speaker 7: we have absolute right to determine who comes to this
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Speaker 7: country under what circumstances. And the unfortunate reality is that
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Speaker 7: if you suffer from a disability or a children do,
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Speaker 7: and it's something that's going to require lifelong and expensive
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Speaker 7: attention that has to be taken into account, it just
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Speaker 7: has to and it has been up to now, and
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Speaker 7: there been no question, as you say, about this rule,
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Speaker 7: and it implies in other countries too, So I think
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Speaker 7: I'm afraid what we're seeing here is just another soft hearted,
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Speaker 7: soft minded moved by Andrew Giles and his team in
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Speaker 7: immigration to just soften it up. And you're exactly right.
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Speaker 7: What makes this extremely dangerous is the fact that we
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Speaker 7: have the NDIS system in place, which, as you know,
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Speaker 7: is far too generous to some people and is being
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Speaker 7: roarted mercilessly. This is sugar on the table. I'm afraid
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Speaker 7: for many people overseas who would like that sort of scheme, sugar.
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Speaker 2: On the table. Let's stay with immigration is She's been
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Speaker 2: four Theam on City Radio today he uncovered the fact
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Speaker 2: that brothel keepers, well they're now eligible for a skilled
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Speaker 2: visa to come to Australia. In addition to that, dog breeders,
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Speaker 2: race car drivers, pet groomers, EMU farmers, even Aboriginal education teachers.
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Speaker 2: They all qualify for skilled visas. James, how about some
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Speaker 2: plumbers and some carpenters and some age care nurses.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a joke.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: I had a farmer tell me that strawberry pickers are
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Speaker 10: now classed to skilled labor as well. I know, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 10: but there's no skill in picking strawberries, and I had
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Speaker 10: to remind him of that. And as for dog groomers,
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Speaker 10: have you seen the price they charge eighty bucks for
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Speaker 10: a bloody moodle? This is just a con job. We
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Speaker 10: don't need these people. As for madams running brothels, well,
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Speaker 10: most states in this country still don't permit prostitution as
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Speaker 10: a legal form of turning a quid. But it's just
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Speaker 10: getting worse. Surely we don't have that great short fall
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Speaker 10: in staff to be able to fill half of these
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Speaker 10: non trade qualified skills. Let's be honest here, We've just
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Speaker 10: got to get these people off long term unemployment benefits
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Speaker 10: and make it so that they've got to go out
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Speaker 10: and take on half of these jobs. The cerner governments
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Speaker 10: grow a spine and actually force these people off that
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Speaker 10: long term unemployment. The better this country will be, will
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Speaker 10: lift productivity without bringing people into the country.
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Speaker 2: Nick, I want to go to a shocking cases quickly out
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Speaker 2: of Victoria. A thirty two year old woman on several
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Speaker 2: high end burglary and firearms charges. Firearms Well, she was
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Speaker 2: granted bail after lying about being Aboriginal. The case is
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Speaker 2: exposed faults in Victoria's we can bail laws. Judges are
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Speaker 2: now required to avoid jailing anyone who claims to be
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Speaker 2: Aboriginal unless there's a good reason. I mean, this is
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Speaker 2: the pointy end of the whole self identity agenda, isn't it.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and sure this woman, you know, she is lied
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Speaker 7: to the court apparently, and she deserves to be sentenced
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Speaker 7: very harshly for that in my view, because it's a
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Speaker 7: very serious matter. But the point I make on this,
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Speaker 7: Peter is why is it that different bail laws apply
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Speaker 7: to people who can claim Aboriginal heritage. I'm sorry that
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Speaker 7: we had a vote on this last year and it
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Speaker 7: comprehensively went against the idea that some Australian citizens get
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Speaker 7: different treatment than others. In this regard, every case before
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Speaker 7: the Bench should be treated on its exact merits. If
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Speaker 7: there are mitigating circumstances or personal hardship or whatever it is.
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Speaker 7: You take that into account. But it doesn't matter what
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Speaker 7: the color of your skin or what your heritage is.
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Speaker 7: You are one Australian citizen and you have the same rights.
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Speaker 2: Spot on, Nick kna Oliver, There, gentlemen, I hazard to
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Speaker 2: guess that I think those statistics are being thwarted there.
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Speaker 2: The point about that is, if you keep the Aboriginal
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Speaker 2: person out of jail, the stats are lower for incarceration.
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Speaker 3: We close the gap.
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Speaker 2: Everyone pats themselves on the back, but the allegations of
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Speaker 2: the crimes committed in the first instance are still there.
21:04
Speaker 3: The crimes are still there.
21:05
Speaker 2: All r let's got a story I brought you last
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Speaker 2: night about the Albanesi Gavment's decision to offer lucrative scholarships
21:10
Speaker 2: to employees of the Palestinian Authority and other Palestinian residents
21:15
Speaker 2: the West Bank Gaza and East Jeruslem. The recipients of
21:19
Speaker 2: these scholarships they'll get in return airfares to Australia, an
21:23
Speaker 2: establishment allowance once they're hear, help with living expenses, all
21:27
Speaker 2: the university costs covered, as well as Australian health insurance,
21:31
Speaker 2: as I pointed out last night, given about two thirds
21:34
Speaker 2: of Palestinians support HUMUS and approved of those attacks on
21:38
Speaker 2: October seven, there are our serious concerns about security checks
21:43
Speaker 2: and may or may not have been conducted on these students,
21:46
Speaker 2: and whether there's any actual benefit to Australia given you're
21:49
Speaker 2: paying for it for more. I'm joined now by the
21:52
Speaker 2: president of the Australian Jewish Association, David Adler. Well, David,
21:55
Speaker 2: thank you for your time. I was shocked by this scheme.
21:58
Speaker 2: I know a lot of my viewers make contact with
22:01
Speaker 2: me after I air the story last night. They were stunned.
22:04
Speaker 2: What's your response to this Palestinian scholarship program?
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Speaker 6: Well, Peter, It's hard to find a more ridiculous, dangerous,
22:17
Speaker 6: reckless policy in terms of our national interest and security.
22:22
Speaker 6: It seems to be targeted specifically at employees of the
22:28
Speaker 6: Palestinian authority. And let's not forget that the Palestinian authority
22:32
Speaker 6: is a dictatorship. Its last election was two thousand and five,
22:39
Speaker 6: so the current president, Marchmouordebas is enjoying the nineteenth year
22:45
Speaker 6: of his four year term. It oppresses minorities, but worse
22:50
Speaker 6: than that, it has a pay for sleigh scheme which
22:54
Speaker 6: pays hundreds of millions of dollars to terrorists and those
23:00
Speaker 6: in jails. So it's extraordinary. And look, let's not underestimate
23:06
Speaker 6: those that want to do us harm. And I'm thinking
23:10
Speaker 6: of the Iranian regime or radical Islamist organizations like his
23:17
Speaker 6: Bookterier and others. They would be laughing at this. If
23:21
Speaker 6: they wanted to plant someone in an Australian university, here's
23:28
Speaker 6: the scheme open for them. And what's more, the Australian
23:32
Speaker 6: taxpayer will pay for it. But at the risk of
23:35
Speaker 6: shocking your viewers even further, if you have a look
23:39
Speaker 6: at the priority subjects to receive these scholarships, Number three
23:46
Speaker 6: on the list is digital economy and cybersecurity. Now just
23:52
Speaker 6: think about that for a moment. Someone comes over here
23:56
Speaker 6: to learn what we know about digital economy and cybersecurity
24:02
Speaker 6: and then goes back, potentially to an organization that is
24:08
Speaker 6: wanting to do Australia harm. What could possibly go wrong?
24:14
Speaker 3: What could possibly go wrong?
24:16
Speaker 2: I mean, the Israel security agency recently foiled a planned
24:20
Speaker 2: shooting attack by an alleged terror cell at a university
24:24
Speaker 2: made up of HUMMAS representatives, on the student council. This
24:28
Speaker 2: is Berzi University in the West Bank, so one of
24:31
Speaker 2: the areas where people will be drawn from for these
24:34
Speaker 2: Australian scholarships. The agency also reports that arrested many students
24:38
Speaker 2: from the West Bank universities in recent weeks, all suspected
24:41
Speaker 2: of terror activity. I'm not convinced that anyone coming to
24:46
Speaker 2: Australia from that area, David is sufficiently screened given the
24:53
Speaker 2: difficulties we have with consular support staff on the ground
24:56
Speaker 2: in the Middle East.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely right, and don't forget these people are products of
25:03
Speaker 6: a radicalized education from very early on, where through the
25:09
Speaker 6: Unrus schools there is the glorification of terrorism, teaching hatred
25:16
Speaker 6: of the West and of Israel and Jews in particular.
25:20
Speaker 6: As if we didn't have enough anti Israel activism and
25:24
Speaker 6: anti semitism on our university campuses, here is a mechanism
25:28
Speaker 6: to bring in more. And as you've said quite correctly,
25:32
Speaker 6: there have been recent terrorist arrests on university campuses in
25:39
Speaker 6: Judeo Samaria the West Bank. There is It University, the
25:46
Speaker 6: student council there, the students' union is in effect controlled
25:50
Speaker 6: by Hamas together with members of the popular Front for
25:56
Speaker 6: the Liberation of Palestine, in other words, to prescribe to organizations.
26:01
Speaker 6: The second university in the area, which is Palestinian Polytech, similarly,
26:09
Speaker 6: the university representation, the student representation is controlled by prescribed
26:14
Speaker 6: terrorist organizations. And it's very easy when you're sitting comfortably
26:20
Speaker 6: in Australia to think using our values, but our values
26:25
Speaker 6: don't apply over there. There is a completely different value
26:29
Speaker 6: set and very hard to screen out those who want
26:32
Speaker 6: to do us harm.
26:35
Speaker 2: David, I have to underscore the points you make in
26:37
Speaker 2: when I went to Ramala, which is obviously the area
26:40
Speaker 2: controlled by the Palestinian authority, I went to an official
26:43
Speaker 2: meeting and on the way into the building there was
26:46
Speaker 2: a monument, probably about eight nine feet tall, and on
26:50
Speaker 2: it were plaques to all the suicide bombers, lauding them
26:53
Speaker 2: for killing Jews. And of course we know that their
26:56
Speaker 2: families as a result receiving pensions, they are honoring the Shaheeds,
27:01
Speaker 2: the suicide bombers, and that's what we're sort of dealing
27:04
Speaker 2: with with some of these students. I have to leave
27:06
Speaker 2: it there with David, I thank you for your comments.
27:08
Speaker 2: I will stay across that issue and find out exactly
27:11
Speaker 2: how much money we're spending as taxpayers. All right after
27:15
Speaker 2: the break it was one hell of a shoutout in hearing.
27:17
Speaker 2: It's about the Secret Service today and all the failures
27:20
Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill. Then battled head of the Secret Service,
27:23
Speaker 2: though vows to stay on. And the chaos on the
27:26
Speaker 2: Australian building sites as we hit a record number of
27:29
Speaker 2: insolvencies as construction firms go bust. Why is this happening?
27:35
Speaker 2: Ross Greenwan with more buzz and update on that inquiry
27:38
Speaker 2: into women's pain in Victoria, welcome back to the come
27:47
Speaker 2: that rare moment of bipartisanship in the US with both
27:49
Speaker 2: the Democrats and the Republicans rounding on the Secret Service
27:53
Speaker 2: chief who tried to stonewall angry in peace. But first,
27:58
Speaker 2: more evidence today that it's not easy to be in
27:59
Speaker 2: the construction business at the moment, and it's getting worse.
28:04
Speaker 2: Insolvencies among licensed building companies to the end of June
28:08
Speaker 2: are already on a par with full year totals in
28:11
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, So at that rate we're
28:15
Speaker 2: headed for a new record. And given the housing crisis
28:18
Speaker 2: we face and the Prime Minister's pledge to build another
28:20
Speaker 2: one point two million homes. None of this adds up
28:24
Speaker 2: if we haven't got the builders to build them for more.
28:26
Speaker 2: And this I'm joined our by Sky's business editor Ross Greenwood. Right, Ross,
28:30
Speaker 2: you've got a big brain. Help us understand what's going
28:33
Speaker 2: on here. The federal government says we're going to build
28:36
Speaker 2: all these new homes. State governments they're getting in on
28:39
Speaker 2: the act. So with all of this work, why are
28:42
Speaker 2: builders going bust in record numbers?
28:45
Speaker 13: Okay, so there's a few things you've got to pack
28:47
Speaker 13: down here, and it's not just the CFMU, but it's
28:49
Speaker 13: also included some of the actions that they have taken
28:52
Speaker 13: over a very long period of time. But if you
28:55
Speaker 13: start in particular with the governments themselves, and particularly state governments,
28:59
Speaker 13: they're building infrastructure like there's no going out of business.
29:02
Speaker 13: So infrastructure projects take up engineers, they take up builders,
29:06
Speaker 13: they take up carpenters, they take up concretors. And so
29:10
Speaker 13: with all of those people taking up building infrastructure, there
29:13
Speaker 13: isn't the labor around at affordable enough levels to be
29:16
Speaker 13: able to build all of the housing that's required. So
29:19
Speaker 13: that's one thing. The second thing is the price of
29:22
Speaker 13: land the price of land is so expensive now that
29:25
Speaker 13: to be able to be a builder and to make
29:27
Speaker 13: a profit on that property that you are constructing it
29:30
Speaker 13: is becoming more and more difficult. And you also need
29:33
Speaker 13: someone to buy that property off you. Now though there's
29:36
Speaker 13: reasonable demand, of course, prices are very very high. And
29:39
Speaker 13: so when builders realize that there is not a healthy
29:42
Speaker 13: profit margin in the building and construction of new homes,
29:46
Speaker 13: guess what, they don't build them. And so the other
29:49
Speaker 13: side of this is as a result of really the
29:51
Speaker 13: holiday on taxes that was given to most companies in Australia, small, medium,
29:56
Speaker 13: large sized businesses during COVID. Now the tax office has
30:00
Speaker 13: coming back in and once its taxes paid. And so
30:04
Speaker 13: as a result of that, all of these things right
30:06
Speaker 13: now are conspiring to see that there are more insolvencies
30:09
Speaker 13: in Australia than they have been for the best part
30:12
Speaker 13: of five years.
30:15
Speaker 2: We know from statistics there are twenty seven thousand businesses
30:19
Speaker 2: that are listed with reportable tax debts, so this means
30:22
Speaker 2: they owe more than one hundred thousand dollars each to
30:25
Speaker 2: the ATO.
30:26
Speaker 3: So what's happening out there in the economy ross.
30:29
Speaker 13: So what's happening is a few things. Number One, the
30:32
Speaker 13: consumer has gone on struck and that's because of the
30:35
Speaker 13: interest rate rises we've seen so far and the genuine
30:38
Speaker 13: conservacism by Australians who are worried about the future. So
30:42
Speaker 13: that's the first thing that's taken place. You can see
30:44
Speaker 13: that because most Australian families are consuming less but spending more,
30:49
Speaker 13: and that happens in supermarket sales. You can see it
30:52
Speaker 13: indiscretionary goods as well. The second part about this is
30:56
Speaker 13: when it comes to companies themselves. As I indicated that
31:00
Speaker 13: really it's about the tax office. The tax Office is
31:02
Speaker 13: now actively pursuing small businesses. So sometimes during COVID we
31:07
Speaker 13: heard about things called zombie companies, in other words, companies
31:09
Speaker 13: that otherwise might have gone broke. But really we're given
31:12
Speaker 13: almost a free pass as a result of the COVID downturn.
31:17
Speaker 13: And so because they were given a free pass, the
31:20
Speaker 13: tax office is now back in the game. The Tax
31:23
Speaker 13: Office traditionally in Australia and right now is the greatest
31:26
Speaker 13: source of insolvency amongst companies and the reason for that,
31:31
Speaker 13: and actually does collect its tax debts when they're owed,
31:34
Speaker 13: and it will send businesses broke. So it's not necessarily
31:37
Speaker 13: the banks that sometimes get vilified for this, it's actually
31:40
Speaker 13: the tax office. It does most of that work. And
31:43
Speaker 13: so because it's now really back in a normal situation,
31:46
Speaker 13: not like a COVID situation, the tax Office right now
31:49
Speaker 13: is seeking to collect those debts. And that's the reason
31:52
Speaker 13: why seeing the scale of the insolvencies rising as dramatically as.
31:56
Speaker 8: You are.
31:59
Speaker 1: Right.
32:00
Speaker 2: Touch on the stuff about the CFMU and how much
32:02
Speaker 2: they add to construction costs in this country. We know
32:05
Speaker 2: productivities down eighteen percent over the decade, the former head
32:09
Speaker 2: of the HFC, Rod Simms, says, you know, adding unions
32:13
Speaker 2: and our constructions about thirty percent more expensive than comparable
32:17
Speaker 2: markets overseas. One of the challenges is we've got all
32:21
Speaker 2: of these these public projects, taxpayer funded projects, running to
32:26
Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars.
32:28
Speaker 3: They're in the pipeline.
32:29
Speaker 2: Now we get all of this information about the CFMEU,
32:33
Speaker 2: there are grave concerns about militancy.
32:36
Speaker 3: And costs, etc.
32:39
Speaker 2: What do we do about stuff that's already in the pipeline.
32:41
Speaker 2: I mean, we yes have an inquiry into bad behavior
32:44
Speaker 2: by the CFMU, but to my mind, we need a
32:47
Speaker 2: massive order by forensic accountants because we might solve the
32:51
Speaker 2: criminal behavior, but how do we do something about the
32:53
Speaker 2: waste and the money that's been ripped off from taxpayers.
32:58
Speaker 13: We just have a look at the Inland Rail as
32:59
Speaker 13: a example of one project that will be examined. The
33:03
Speaker 13: Inland Rail might now not ever be finished, and yet
33:06
Speaker 13: this was an ambitious project to try and bring the
33:09
Speaker 13: produce of the farmers from New South Wales, from Queensland,
33:14
Speaker 13: from Victoria into the airports and ports, to be able
33:17
Speaker 13: to send it overseas and to really genuinely be a
33:20
Speaker 13: benefit to Australia. Remember this is the reason why the
33:23
Speaker 13: Wire Steel Works was effectively bailed out by Sanjeev Gupta
33:28
Speaker 13: and then ultimately really he was given all of the
33:32
Speaker 13: contract for all of the steel for all of the
33:34
Speaker 13: rails in that Inland Rail. So there's been, if you like,
33:37
Speaker 13: along the way, almost the saving of a town, the
33:40
Speaker 13: saving of a steel mill as a result of this project.
33:43
Speaker 13: But now it's shown that this is one of those
33:45
Speaker 13: projects where the cost overruns are so colossal, running into
33:49
Speaker 13: the many billions of dollars, that there will be an
33:51
Speaker 13: investigation into that. The same for the Western Sydney Airport,
33:54
Speaker 13: which to be fair, is actually being built at greater
33:57
Speaker 13: pace and what the inland railer has been. But there's
33:59
Speaker 13: so many other projects as well where the CFMEU has
34:02
Speaker 13: been involved and where really you've got to raise questions
34:05
Speaker 13: about a the way in which these projects have been
34:09
Speaker 13: put together, the way in which government has basically administered
34:12
Speaker 13: and accounted for them. And I even know of one
34:15
Speaker 13: that's very close to me in Sydney, which is the
34:17
Speaker 13: North Sydney Pool, which seems to have gone on for
34:20
Speaker 13: years when it was really a relatively simple project that
34:23
Speaker 13: should have gone on for a couple of years and
34:25
Speaker 13: not the four or five years it's going to end
34:28
Speaker 13: up being eventually, how long does it take to build
34:30
Speaker 13: a pool? For goodness sakes. So you see these projects,
34:33
Speaker 13: you see them run, they very proudly displayed the CFMEU flag.
34:37
Speaker 13: But the result is labor practices, and then the oversight
34:42
Speaker 13: of those practices is the thing that really you've got
34:45
Speaker 13: to raise questions, and not local government, but also state
34:48
Speaker 13: government and indeed at the federal government, which has really
34:51
Speaker 13: allowed these work practices to continue with no building in
34:55
Speaker 13: the Construction Commission to actually you know, sort of hold
34:58
Speaker 13: up some of these practices, really bring them to heel.
35:01
Speaker 13: It really is without any genuine umpire to allow these
35:05
Speaker 13: projects to go ahead and to create the value those
35:08
Speaker 13: should for the public.
35:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chucky, I mean every other big sector has an umpire.
35:14
Speaker 2: We've disabled the one, or labor has disabled the one
35:17
Speaker 2: in relation to construction, and we're all going to pay
35:20
Speaker 2: the price on that.
35:20
Speaker 3: Ross. Thank you. Let's stay on this issue.
35:23
Speaker 2: I want to bring the Victorian Shadow Minister David Davis,
35:27
Speaker 2: because at the heart of this is this sham inquiry
35:29
Speaker 2: down in Victoria. David, thank you for your time. I
35:32
Speaker 2: mentioned this at the top of the show. No public
35:34
Speaker 2: here is no powers to compel witnesses. A public servant
35:38
Speaker 2: in charge. Well that public servant, of course is answerable
35:41
Speaker 2: to the government, not to the public. And this is
35:43
Speaker 2: what you'd call a Clayton's inquiry at best.
35:47
Speaker 1: It's worse than that. It's an absolute circus. And I
35:51
Speaker 1: don't think anyone thinks this can be treated seriously. I
35:55
Speaker 1: think people know that this inquiry is not the right thing.
35:59
Speaker 1: We know that it won't beholding the public hearings. We
36:01
Speaker 1: know it's got no powers to compel witnesses to seize
36:05
Speaker 1: documents to follow the trail that is required. We've said
36:10
Speaker 1: there should be a royal commission. This is very serious
36:13
Speaker 1: in Victoria, and more serious actually in Victoria than the
36:17
Speaker 1: rest of the country. And we've got to get on
36:19
Speaker 1: top of this. The huge cost blowouts that we've seen
36:22
Speaker 1: in Victoria, you know, more than forty billion actually is
36:26
Speaker 1: where we're heading at the moment, are huge blowouts that
36:30
Speaker 1: actually make it imperative that there's a proper, full inquiry
36:35
Speaker 1: into these points and not the fake inquiry, the half
36:40
Speaker 1: baked inquiry that Jacinder Ellen has announced, which is really
36:44
Speaker 1: just to cover her ass's.
36:46
Speaker 5: Let's be clear, that's what it's for.
36:48
Speaker 1: She knew about it's a long time ago.
36:51
Speaker 2: It's a playbook of Daniel Andrews, David Davis. It's exactly
36:54
Speaker 2: what they did with the Code inquiry, all designed to
36:58
Speaker 2: keep the media out of the wave because once the
37:00
Speaker 2: inquiry starts, questions to the Premier are I can't comment.
37:04
Speaker 2: It's part of the inquiry, which is exactly what Andrews did,
37:07
Speaker 2: and then we have that circus where no one can
37:09
Speaker 2: remember and you know, no one's got any detail, including
37:13
Speaker 2: today of course the Planning Minister Sonya killed Kenny. She
37:16
Speaker 2: admitted she was made aware of these concerns about the
37:19
Speaker 2: CFMU prior to the latest round of allegations becoming public,
37:24
Speaker 2: but she didn't do anything much with the matter.
37:26
Speaker 3: Here she is, have a listen.
37:28
Speaker 11: I've referred that matter on at the time, and that
37:33
Speaker 11: matter is being dealt with by the Fair Work Commission.
37:36
Speaker 5: That matter was referred on.
37:38
Speaker 11: I referred that matter on and it's been dealt with
37:41
Speaker 11: by the Fair Work Commission. So I referred that matter on.
37:45
Speaker 11: I did not raise it personally with Justina. I've referred
37:49
Speaker 11: that matter on, Okay, I did not raise it with
37:53
Speaker 11: Daniel Andrews.
37:56
Speaker 2: I mean she was a rabbit in a hard hat
37:58
Speaker 2: in a spotlight today. I mean it was just appalling
38:01
Speaker 2: to watch it in New South Wales. The Liberal opposition
38:04
Speaker 2: sending all of this to i CAAC. Will you send
38:08
Speaker 2: it to IBACK? I mean, you've got to get into
38:10
Speaker 2: government before you get a Royal commission. Can't you refer
38:13
Speaker 2: it off to the Anti corruption watchdog?
38:15
Speaker 3: Now?
38:17
Speaker 1: Well, well, here is the point. Just Cinda Allen said
38:20
Speaker 1: she's going to send it to Iback. But here's a
38:23
Speaker 1: piece of news. In April twenty twenty three, I wrote
38:27
Speaker 1: and referred this matter to IBACK myself, this CFMEU set
38:32
Speaker 1: of issues, and IBAC took a lunchtime more than twelve months,
38:38
Speaker 1: nearly thirteen months to respond to say they wouldn't investigate it.
38:42
Speaker 1: So I got a letter back in June this year
38:45
Speaker 1: to say we're not going to investigate it. Now, just
38:48
Speaker 1: Cinda Allen says, what are we going to refer it
38:51
Speaker 1: to IBACK? Well, they just said it didn't meet the thresholds.
38:55
Speaker 1: So you know, I can't say that any of us
39:00
Speaker 1: feel this is suitable. None of us feel that IBACK
39:04
Speaker 1: is doing what's needed here. It needs to be getting
39:07
Speaker 1: in very tough and very sharply on this instead of
39:11
Speaker 1: a weak sort of approach.
39:14
Speaker 9: You know.
39:15
Speaker 1: So I'm not filled with confidence. I'm not filled with
39:18
Speaker 1: confidence on this that that IBAC will do what is
39:22
Speaker 1: needed here. And certainly the Clayton's half baked inquiry that
39:27
Speaker 1: just Cindre Ellen has announced will not do the work,
39:30
Speaker 1: will not do the.
39:31
Speaker 2: Work, not at all. I have to leave it there,
39:33
Speaker 2: but keep going. I mean, I didn't realize that you'd
39:35
Speaker 2: written in. I didn't realize you've got to push.
39:37
Speaker 3: Back at it.
39:38
Speaker 1: Well, I should also say that that. Yeah, we've announced
39:42
Speaker 1: today that we will introduce legislation, it's been drafted, it's
39:46
Speaker 1: ready to go next week that will ban bikes from
39:50
Speaker 1: these work sites. And that's an important step. We don't
39:53
Speaker 1: need corrupt bikes on sites acting as CFMU collectors.
40:00
Speaker 2: No, we don't, Thank you, David Davis. All right, after
40:03
Speaker 2: the break that footage out of the US out of
40:05
Speaker 2: Congress about the head of the Secret Service copying that
40:08
Speaker 2: grilling class, it looks like Kamala Harris. Now it's got
40:11
Speaker 2: the numbers to get her across the line. But is
40:13
Speaker 2: it a done deal? Welcome back stil to cam Nicole
40:22
Speaker 2: Flint joins me as a woman who suffered from severe
40:24
Speaker 2: and chronic endometriosis, for her reaction to the Victorian government
40:28
Speaker 2: allowing biological men to participate in a woman's pain inquiry,
40:33
Speaker 2: the first of Secret Service Director Kimberley Cheatle has appeared
40:36
Speaker 2: before a congressional hearing into the major security failures which
40:40
Speaker 2: nearly resulted in the death of Donald Trump. The questioning
40:44
Speaker 2: got pretty willing, both Republicans and the Democrats going after her.
40:49
Speaker 7: It is my firm belief, Director Cheetle, that you should resigne.
40:52
Speaker 4: Have you provided all audio and video recordings in your
40:55
Speaker 4: possession to this committee, as we asked on delay fifteenth, Yes.
40:58
Speaker 3: Or now I would have to get back to you.
41:00
Speaker 4: That is a no you're.
41:01
Speaker 5: Full of today.
41:02
Speaker 14: So the notion of a report coming out in sixty days,
41:06
Speaker 14: when the threat environment is so high in the United States,
41:10
Speaker 14: irrespective of party, is not acceptable.
41:13
Speaker 1: Can you answer why the secret surfy sit in place
41:14
Speaker 1: a single agent on the roof.
41:17
Speaker 4: We are still looking into the advanced process and the
41:20
Speaker 4: decisions are made.
41:23
Speaker 3: Jot I mean asked to God?
41:24
Speaker 2: These contributed a kushakata formal library may pay Michael Danby,
41:29
Speaker 2: who you don't often say it like that pretty fiery.
41:32
Speaker 5: Rare moment of BIPARTI isn't grilling because this is an outrage.
41:35
Speaker 5: It's been ten days since this has happened. She not
41:38
Speaker 5: only is not resigned, hasn't been fired. We don't have
41:40
Speaker 5: answers to questions like was extra protection denied to Trump?
41:43
Speaker 5: There were conflicting reports and now it looks like that's the case.
41:45
Speaker 5: How did the gun get in there? How came the
41:47
Speaker 5: roof wasn't guarded? How did he have eight minutes to
41:51
Speaker 5: enjoy his shot before to have all these basic questions
41:53
Speaker 5: haven't been answered. It's an absolute disgrace. Sixty days doesn't
41:56
Speaker 5: cut it. And this is another example of a once
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Speaker 5: vaunted agency, the US Secret Service, that is now also
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Speaker 5: suffering a crisis of credibility, joining in the ranks of
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Speaker 5: the FBI and the CA and all of these where
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Speaker 5: people are just increasingly getting frustrated, not to mention both
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Speaker 5: candidates about their campaigning right now, and nobody trusts whether
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Speaker 5: the Secret Service has it's up together, and.
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Speaker 2: All these debates about diversity, and you know, we're not
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Speaker 2: going to get up on a sloping roof, for God's sake.
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Speaker 2: If a shooters up there, you can shoot him in
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Speaker 2: the head, but you can't bring him down with OHNs rules.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I just that was out regions, and that
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Speaker 5: is the one public piece of communication that she gained,
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Speaker 5: was to see the rupers to.
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Speaker 2: Sloping Kamala Harris looks like she's got the numbers, not
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Speaker 2: guaranteed though that she's actually sealed the deal. Yet there's
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Speaker 2: still some conjecture. People like Obama are said to want
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Speaker 2: an open convention. Interestingly, the moment that Joe Biden drops
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Speaker 2: out of the race, she has raised Kamala Harris eighty
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Speaker 2: one million dollars in twenty four hours.
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Speaker 3: That's a new record. What's going to happen to here, Michael?
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Speaker 3: Do you think she's going to get it?
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Speaker 15: The Democratic base who are excited now that they've got
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Speaker 15: a candidate that's sort of basically living upright and breathing,
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Speaker 15: don't discount. Peter Frank Lunce, America's best polsters, said that
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Speaker 15: especially amongst eighteen to thirty four year old women, she's
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Speaker 15: a blank sheet. So they don't hate her. But they
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Speaker 15: weren't going to vote for poor old Joe. They weren't
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Speaker 15: going to turn out because remember it's voluntary voting. But
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Speaker 15: now they're going to frame it as the young Afro
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Speaker 15: American woman or younger or Jamaican woman, the rich old
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Speaker 15: white guy, so it's more competitive. I still think that
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Speaker 15: her record on immigration is what motivates most Americans. And
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Speaker 15: then the ross beilt seats. Unless she has a very
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Speaker 15: very good VP, she hasn't got a show.
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Speaker 2: Well, this goes to the point, right, the key swing
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Speaker 2: seats are russ Belt seats. They're the seats that a
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Speaker 2: person like JD. Van's owns those states. She's locked up
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Speaker 2: California because she's woke California. But I mean that's California
43:59
Speaker 2: and New York. You know, I'm big waiting of Electoral
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Speaker 2: College votes. But in the middle of the country, she's
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Speaker 2: not just not known. As Michael makes the point, she's
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Speaker 2: not just a blank sheet of paper. They'd be great
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Speaker 2: antipathy to the sort of background she is.
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Speaker 5: That's true. And the record, she's only run for office
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Speaker 5: twice in the primary and twenty twenty for president and
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Speaker 5: for Attorney General in California, and in both of those
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Speaker 5: she got less than one percent of the vote, even
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Speaker 5: in blue California. She's just not a very talented campaigner.
44:26
Speaker 5: Everybody knows that. However, building out what Michael said, she
44:29
Speaker 5: is going to be the beneficiary of the CoverGirl treatment,
44:32
Speaker 5: and she's going to get the magazine covers. She's going
44:34
Speaker 5: to get all sorts of puff pieces of elevator. She
44:36
Speaker 5: will choose a VP. Wisely, who's going to be somebody
44:39
Speaker 5: from one of the rustbelt states. It shores that up.
44:41
Speaker 5: There's lots of people who want the job. And I
44:43
Speaker 5: would also throw in the last thing is we don't
44:45
Speaker 5: know what's going to happen to Biden in the six
44:47
Speaker 5: months left.
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Speaker 3: As I've got to ask you about that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, all this talk and it's continue when I've
44:50
Speaker 2: said for ages, I mean, who the hell is running
44:53
Speaker 2: the country? Clearly he's not. It gets COVID, he takes
44:56
Speaker 2: a week off. Who's in the White House. It's very
44:59
Speaker 2: off being the machine. It is very unstitive thing.
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Speaker 5: He hasn't said anything. And that's the thing I was
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Speaker 5: looking at. The last time that's happened when somebody resigned
45:04
Speaker 5: or said they were not going to run for reelection,
45:06
Speaker 5: Linda Johnson give a forty minute address to the nation
45:09
Speaker 5: from the Oval Office to at least reassure the American
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Speaker 5: people that he had the job as commander in chief
45:14
Speaker 5: in hand. He's just not running for re election. We
45:16
Speaker 5: have nothing. We got something that wasn't unstationary digitally signed
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Speaker 5: by the President. This phone call that who knows he's meant.
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Speaker 15: To be returning to the White House tomorrow.
45:24
Speaker 5: We'll find out.
45:25
Speaker 15: Military are really getting very nervous. General Carilla, who's that
45:29
Speaker 15: The Chairman of Central Command sent a really rude, rude
45:33
Speaker 15: open letter to the Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, saying
45:37
Speaker 15: what the hell's going on in the Middle East. We
45:39
Speaker 15: can have American sailors killed in the Red Sea if
45:41
Speaker 15: you don't let us take action and give us some
45:44
Speaker 15: leadership compared to sort of what the Israelis did in Yemen.
45:48
Speaker 15: So the situation is exactly as you identified, Peter. It's
45:51
Speaker 15: sort of closed Tomil chaos, lack of leadership.
45:55
Speaker 5: In a very hostile time and closing the loop back
45:57
Speaker 5: to Kamla. If that were to happen, that would meet
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Speaker 5: her further because she will actually be the first president
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Speaker 5: and that changes her positioning.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a benefit for the Democrats if they
46:06
Speaker 2: went down that path, they would give her the benefit
46:09
Speaker 2: of incumbency. She could be seen to be up to
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Speaker 2: the job whether she is or she isn't by virtue
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Speaker 2: of the office. That would make it very interesting. Gosh,
46:16
Speaker 2: it's a wild ride to see.
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Speaker 15: I've seen, might see more, good man, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: How much more we can take all right after the break.
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Speaker 2: Nicole Flint in her anger at the Victorian pain inquiry
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Speaker 2: that's calling for trans women's biological.
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Speaker 5: Men to give their input.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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Speaker 2: We'll join me now to comment on the Victorian government's
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Speaker 2: women's pain inquiry. Former Liberal MP now on candidate can
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Speaker 2: boothby Nicole flint Well. Nicole, thank you for your time.
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Speaker 2: This is a personal one, but I know you put
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Speaker 2: it out in the public sphere.
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Speaker 3: You were very.
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Speaker 2: Honest, I think, and upfront about the fact that endometriosis
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Speaker 2: was one of the contributing factors to your departure from politics.
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Speaker 2: I know you've got it under control. We're good friends,
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Speaker 2: but a lot of other women don't. Hence this inquiry
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Speaker 2: into victoria about how the system can better support women
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Speaker 2: with chronic issues like this. What do you make of
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Speaker 2: this call though, for submissions from biological men who identify
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Speaker 2: as women.
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Speaker 16: Look, Peter, I've really run out of words to describe
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Speaker 16: circumstances like this. It's extraordinary, it's offensive, it's disgraceful, and
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Speaker 16: there is no reason for biological men to be part
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Speaker 16: of this inquiry. If you don't have a usress and
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Speaker 16: all of the if you're not a biological woman, and
47:42
Speaker 16: you don't have all of the things that can go
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Speaker 16: horribly wrong as they did for me, as they do
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Speaker 16: for so many women, then there is no need for
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Speaker 16: you to be part of this inquiry.
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Speaker 3: So endometriosis.
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Speaker 16: I look back, and you're right, I have been very
47:54
Speaker 16: public about my journey. I was in chronic pain for
47:59
Speaker 16: thirty years, thirty five years of my life. I am
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Speaker 16: so grateful to now have that under control. There are
48:05
Speaker 16: so many women who don't have it under control, who
48:08
Speaker 16: are still, for example, presenting to emergency departments and getting
48:12
Speaker 16: accused of being searching for drugs for pain relief because
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Speaker 16: still medical community don't necessarily recognize or know how to
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Speaker 16: treat anometriosis properly.
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Speaker 3: Peter, I think about women who.
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Speaker 16: Have had very traumatic birth injuries and lifelong consequences for that,
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Speaker 16: and often lifelong pain. I mean, you know, encouraging or
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Speaker 16: inviting biological men to take part in this inquiry when
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Speaker 16: you have women who have very genuine, very real, very
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Speaker 16: lifelong chronic pain with no end in sight, is just insulting.
48:54
Speaker 2: It isn't a time we just call bs on all
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Speaker 2: of this. I mean, I think it mocks the women
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Speaker 2: that are in a position where you were, that have
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Speaker 2: nowhere to turn. This is you know, they've fought for
49:04
Speaker 2: a long time to get this inquiry up. We can't
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Speaker 2: just keep turning a blind eye to this anymore, Nicole.
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Speaker 16: No, Peter, And let's remember who is ultimately responsible for
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Speaker 16: this sort of thing. It's Julia Gillard and her government
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Speaker 16: who in twenty thirteen erased deleted the definition of women
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Speaker 16: and women in the Sex Discrimination Act. So what we
49:25
Speaker 16: need to see is putting our definition back into the
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Speaker 16: Act so that we can actually get the help of
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Speaker 16: the assistance and restore our rights to have our issues
49:36
Speaker 16: properly dealt with. And unfortunately decades of neglect of women
49:42
Speaker 16: and women's pain by the health system is not really
49:45
Speaker 16: much better than it has been. But one of the
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Speaker 16: reasons that I'm running again, Peter, is to try to
49:51
Speaker 16: change that once and for all.
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Speaker 2: Hey, just quickly, three words, four words? What are the
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Speaker 2: key issues people are raising with you in Boothby?
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Speaker 16: Cost of living and a brand new one I've never
50:03
Speaker 16: seen crime and community safety.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Wow to this Australia. This is why we need it
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Speaker 2: back in the Parliament. I'm not in Boothby. If I was,
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Speaker 2: i'd vote for her. Nicole Flint. Great to have your company.
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Speaker 2: Glad everything's under control. Keep campaigning.
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Speaker 3: That's it for me. See tomorrow night at six. He's
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Speaker 3: Andrew Bolt