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How Ohio State's Potential Path To A National Title Just Changed · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyees Tomorrow morning for Thursday, April thirtieth. I'm
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  Speaker 1: for more. All right, today, we're gonna be talking about
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  Speaker 1: the college football playoff because we've got a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of an update from SEC Commissioner Greg Sank and it
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  Speaker 1: was one of those great things where he just sort
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  Speaker 1: of like casually mentions something and everyone goes, wait, what
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  Speaker 1: when did that happen? So we're gonna be talking about that.
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  Speaker 1: We can do that with our buddy, Tony Gerdiman of
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  Speaker 1: the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. Tony, Obviously, the first thing we
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  Speaker 1: got to talk about we do every fall the Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: Weekly Ranking Show recaps. No conversation about eliminating those so
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  Speaker 1: are they stupid?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Is that still a huge relief that we will have
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  Speaker 1: content on Tuesdays in the fall. Absolutely. However, the other
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  Speaker 1: thing that he dropped was a really interesting change in
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  Speaker 1: how the quarterfinal and semi final low patients are going
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  Speaker 1: to be decided by the one and two seeds in
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  Speaker 1: the field.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and kind of threw it out there and ross
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  Speaker 2: Ellinger had to pick it up from the Paul Finebaum Show.
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  Speaker 2: But the number one team will get to pick which
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  Speaker 2: quarter final spot that they want in terms of the bowl,
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  Speaker 2: which ball they want to go to, and then they
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  Speaker 2: will also be able to pick what semi final bowl
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  Speaker 2: they'll get to go to. And then the number two
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  Speaker 2: team will also get to pick their quarter final spot
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  Speaker 2: and then of course take whatever is left in terms
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  Speaker 2: of the semi finals. But it is no longer tied
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  Speaker 2: to geography or your conference. We knew the conference affiliate
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  Speaker 2: affiliations that last year was the last year for that one,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, And so now they've come into the ruling
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  Speaker 2: on how that's going to be handled, which I don't
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  Speaker 2: know were was was this ever publicized? Did we ever
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  Speaker 2: discuss like, well, if it's not going to be conference is,
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  Speaker 2: how are we going to do it? And then if
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  Speaker 2: then boom, here you go, there's your answer, fish bulb.
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  Speaker 1: There is your answer. Yeah, the last year the previous year,
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  Speaker 1: the one that Indiana won the national championship. That was
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  Speaker 1: the final season of the original college Football Playoff contract.
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  Speaker 1: That was a twelve year contract and that was the
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  Speaker 1: last season of it. So that was the last one
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  Speaker 1: where the Big Ten champion was contractually obligated to play
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  Speaker 1: its quarterfinal game in the Rose Bowl and the SEC
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  Speaker 1: champion in the Sugar Bowl and so on. So now
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  Speaker 1: that that's done, those teams can choose where they want
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  Speaker 1: to go one seed and two seed, and the strategy
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  Speaker 1: there is presumably to avoid Hey, if you're playing Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: you would prefer to not play Georgia in the Peach
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  Speaker 1: Bowl in Atlanta, Or you'd prefer to not play Miami
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  Speaker 1: in the Orange Bowl. So stuff like that. That is
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  Speaker 1: probably part of the conversation. The other thing, though, that
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  Speaker 1: I think people may underestimate is how much conferences or
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  Speaker 1: how much teams and coaches value familiarity. Where the Cotton
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  Speaker 1: Bowl is one of the quarter final sites, and if
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State's the number one team, I wouldn't be shocked
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  Speaker 1: if after being there the last three years, Ryan Day,
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  Speaker 1: if the buck Eyes were the number one seed, Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: they might choose to go back there just because you know,
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  Speaker 1: we hear them talk about it all the time. You
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  Speaker 1: just you know, the hotel, you know, the practice facility,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the stadium, all that kind of stuff. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's something they view as as a big bonus.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's always talking about with the freshman this
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  Speaker 2: is the first time they're ever doing anything, and so
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  Speaker 2: you try to put them in situations that goes for
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  Speaker 2: the team as well. So there is a familiarity there.
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  Speaker 2: And I know I can hear people saying, well, not
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  Speaker 2: if they're going to play a Texas team, Well, they
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  Speaker 2: have beaten a Texas team in the Cotton Bowl, but
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  Speaker 2: that is just gonna be one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: you have to weigh, you like the familiarity or would
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  Speaker 2: you rather have a better chance at a home field advantage.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm looking, you know, just think about this, like
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten would just always you know, go to
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  Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl. I'm wondering, now, if it's all of
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  Speaker 2: the traveling that you're asking your fans to do, would
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  Speaker 2: it behoove Ohio state too? Then you know what, let's
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  Speaker 2: just let's make it a driveable thing for Buck fans.
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  Speaker 2: And really, given the Midwest, there's only one location where
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  Speaker 2: that would be, and that's the Peach Bowl. And is
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  Speaker 2: that does that become something where let's do this for
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  Speaker 2: the fans or is it still going to be the
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  Speaker 2: Rose Ball? Is the best chance we have at a
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  Speaker 2: home field advantage, but not if you're playing I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna say no if you're playing USC. But still, but
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  Speaker 2: when you are having to deal with playing Western teams
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  Speaker 2: out west, is it really the advantage that you're looking for?
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's just one of the unfortunate things about
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  Speaker 2: the Midwest teams is there is no direct, unique home
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  Speaker 2: field advantage in these games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they were playing if there's a chance they
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  Speaker 1: were going to play a Texas team, I would assume
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  Speaker 1: they would avoid the Cotton Bowl. Or if there's a
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  Speaker 1: chance they were going to play USC or Oregon or
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  Speaker 1: something like that, they would probably avoid the Rose Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: And if there's a chance you're going to play an
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  Speaker 1: SEC team, you probably avoid the Peach Bowl. But that
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  Speaker 1: is certainly one of the drivable You say that there's
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  Speaker 1: only one driveable one, sir. I have personally driven to
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  Speaker 1: three different New Year six sites with you over the years.
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  Speaker 1: So we are hardy Midwesterners. Everything is drivable if you
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  Speaker 1: have long enough. So the other two the other couple
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  Speaker 1: changes that just remind you sort of how this is
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  Speaker 1: working this year. One change is that the Power four
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  Speaker 1: Conference championship champions all receive an automatic berth regardless of
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  Speaker 1: where they fall in the rankings. So last year, Virginia
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  Speaker 1: won the ACC but did not sorry, Duke won the ACC,
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  Speaker 1: but they were not in the top twelve, so therefore
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  Speaker 1: they missed the bracket. This year, the four Just like
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  Speaker 1: last year, those four teams when they do get in,
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  Speaker 1: the four Power Conference champions all automatically in. They do
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  Speaker 1: not get automatic buyes. That was something that happened in
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  Speaker 1: the first year where the four conference champions got those
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  Speaker 1: first round byes. They rectified that last year. That remains
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  Speaker 1: true this year, so just the top four teams in
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  Speaker 1: the rankings get those first round byes. The highest ranked
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  Speaker 1: team from the group of six will still get an
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  Speaker 1: automatic bid. That's the same as last year. One other
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  Speaker 1: little change that would have made a difference last year
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  Speaker 1: and would have probably eliminated one of the national Championship
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  Speaker 1: finalists from last year if Notre Dame ranks among the
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  Speaker 1: top twelve in the final rankings. They get an automatic
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  Speaker 1: bid as well. So that would have last year knocked
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  Speaker 1: out Miami and put Notre Dame in the bracket, assuming
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  Speaker 1: that the committee wouldn't have sort of shuffled things around
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that didn't happen. But that's the other
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  Speaker 1: change the College Football Playoff rankings thing that talked about
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  Speaker 1: all the specific rules, made sure to mention that there's
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  Speaker 1: only one team Tony that does not have a path
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  Speaker 1: through an automatic qualification. Now, only one team nationally does
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  Speaker 1: not have either through the Group of six or a
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame carve out or a Power for Conference carve out.
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  Speaker 1: Can you name the one team that does not have
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  Speaker 1: a path to an automatic bid in the college football Playoff?
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  Speaker 1: Yukon is correct, probably not something that is going to
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  Speaker 1: come up at any point, but if it does, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to earn their way in. So all right,
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  Speaker 1: So I want to give you just kind of we've
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  Speaker 1: done this in previous years, just to sort of give
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  Speaker 1: you a look at like what this bracket might look like,
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  Speaker 1: what these what these rules might how they might play out.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to just use ESPN's post spring top
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  Speaker 1: twenty five because sure, why not. I'll run through that
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  Speaker 1: real quick for you, and I'll throw the graphic up
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  Speaker 1: here so you can see the whole bracket. Ohio State one,
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  Speaker 1: Oregon two, Georgia three, Notre Dame four, Texas five, Indiana six,
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  Speaker 1: Miami seven, Texas Tech eight, Ole, Miss nine, Texas A
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  Speaker 1: and M ten, LSU eleven. There is where your cutoff
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  Speaker 1: is for the the at large teams BYU twelve, Oklahoma thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: Michigan fourteen, Penn State fifteen, Alabama sixteen, Washington seventeen, Utaw eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: Iowa nineteen, USC twenty, LSU twenty one, SMU twenty two,
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  Speaker 1: TCU twenty three, Houston twenty four, Tennessee number twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: They had no non power teams in their top twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm stealing the first one who made the hit
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  Speaker 1: the list at USA today. That's Boise. So they would
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  Speaker 1: be the non power team to get in quarterfinals this
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  Speaker 1: year in the Fiesta Cotton, Peach and Rose, semi finals
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  Speaker 1: in the Orange and Sugar, and the National Championship being
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  Speaker 1: played in Las Vegas. So your first round matchups Texas
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  Speaker 1: number five hosting Boise, State number twelve, Texas Tech number eight.
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  Speaker 1: That may have changed since the Brennan Soresby news broke
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  Speaker 1: since the release of this ESPN list, but they would
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  Speaker 1: as of right now be hosting number nine Ole Miss
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  Speaker 1: number six Indiana, which seems really shockingly uncontroversial hosting number
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  Speaker 1: eleven LSU. I'm sure Lane Kiffin would love to go
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  Speaker 1: to Bloomington, Indiana in December and then a rematch of
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  Speaker 1: last year, but with the home field flipped. Number seven
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  Speaker 1: Miami hosting number ten Texas A and m any thoughts
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  Speaker 1: other than Lane Kiffin in a bundled up any thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on the first round there?
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  Speaker 2: Does he wear wesor in the winter or would it
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  Speaker 2: be stocking cap? Stocking cap with a visor. I'm still
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  Speaker 2: trying to picture that one for him. You know, as
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  Speaker 2: I look at this, I'm thinking, boy, how about sixteen
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  Speaker 2: team playoff? And watch how angry the Alabama fans get
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  Speaker 2: when they're left out as number sixteen and you can't
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  Speaker 2: even make a sixteen team playoff? But you know, overall,
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  Speaker 2: I always like these when when we when we look
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  Speaker 2: at them, the old Miss Texas Tech thing kind of
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  Speaker 2: stands out in terms of what are they doing here?
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  Speaker 2: And they've made the playoffs before, but it's still a
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  Speaker 2: little odd seeing them, especially in their respective situations. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to see what Indiana is this year. And
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  Speaker 2: frankly you can throw LSU in there. So that would
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  Speaker 2: be if you want to make that the season open
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  Speaker 2: and also a first round playoff matchup, I'd take it. Well.
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  Speaker 2: Pr Signetti would.
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  Speaker 1: Never but yeah, no, no, no, probably not moving on
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  Speaker 1: to the second round. And this is where you sort
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  Speaker 1: of factor in this new rule that we talked about earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, Ohio State would have its choice of the
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  Speaker 1: of the locations for the quarterfinals. The choices again the
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  Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl, the Rose Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, and the
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  Speaker 1: Peach Bowl. In this case, they would be playing the
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  Speaker 1: winner of Texas Tech and Ole Miss. This might be
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  Speaker 1: one of those scenarios where they would choose to not
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  Speaker 1: play in the Cotton Bowl just to get away from Tech.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Lubbock, Texas is not close to anything, but
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  Speaker 1: it's close ish to Dallas, so that you would guess
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  Speaker 1: that that might be one where they would not choose
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  Speaker 1: to play there. And if you have a chance of
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  Speaker 1: playing Ole Miss or Texas Tech, that might be one
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  Speaker 1: where you say go ahead and play in the Rose Bowls.
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  Speaker 1: Either there or maybe the Peach Bowl, as you said,
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  Speaker 1: to have be a have that be a relatively close
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  Speaker 1: drive for Ohio State fans. Number two Oregon obviously if
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  Speaker 1: they regardless if they're playing in Texas, A and m
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  Speaker 1: or Miami, they're going to probably choose the Rose Bowl
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  Speaker 1: if that's open to them, and then Georgia would wab
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  Speaker 1: we go to the Sugar Bowl because I can't or sorry,
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  Speaker 1: that would be either the Fiesta Bowl or the Peach Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: and they then Notre Dame would get whatever was left.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, again this is very preliminary and obviously
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  Speaker 1: very contingent on what else is happening, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Texas Tech, Notre Dame, Texas, Georgia, Indiana, and Oregon, Miami.
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  Speaker 1: If all the higher seeds win, that's a pretty intriguing
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  Speaker 1: New Year's even New Year's Day.
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  Speaker 2: It is. And as I'm looking at this, Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: or whoever is number one, has the ability to control,
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  Speaker 2: say they don't want to see eleven or six, which
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  Speaker 2: would be LSU or Indiana, and they could be like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, let's let Georgia have the Peach Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: That way, they're better prepared, better equipped to beat one
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  Speaker 2: of those teams that I don't want to see. Rather
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  Speaker 2: than Ohio State saying we'll take we'll take the Peach Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: you leave that for Georgia, giving them an advantage over
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  Speaker 2: two teams that you don't want to see. I wonder
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  Speaker 2: how much they're gonna think about everything that's your coaches do.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna look at all of it and like, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's weigh all of these things. And I the the
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  Speaker 2: ability to kind of screw with other teams that you're,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're you're looking at is interesting to me.
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  Speaker 2: But as I'm looking at this, you know, Miami versus
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  Speaker 2: Oregon is interesting to see who who wastes the most
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  Speaker 2: money here? Whoever loses is like, what a what a waste?
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  Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna have to go buy another quarterback?
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  Speaker 2: Get ready for that. So at least a loser will
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  Speaker 2: have a head start on everybody.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, I'm just gonna jump in, Tony and just
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  Speaker 1: preempt all the YouTube comments, just remind everyone, yes, Miami
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  Speaker 1: did beat Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl on New
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  Speaker 1: Year's Eve last year. Just in case Tony you forgot,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm sure you will be asked if you have
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  Speaker 1: forgotten that, uh, the semi finals. This is interesting because
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  Speaker 1: if it's Ohio State Notre Dame, obviously you're making this
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  Speaker 1: decision well before you know how the bracket's going to
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  Speaker 1: play out, but you sort of assume, okay, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be Notre Dame, probably Notre Dame or Texas. And if
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  Speaker 1: it's Notre Dame, the two choices for semi finals are
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  Speaker 1: the Orange Bowl and the Sugar Bowl. Those are two
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  Speaker 1: places Ohio State has not played since at least twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: The twenty twenty season, they played Clemson in the Sugar Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Have not played in either of those locations since then
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Notre Dame has played in both of those
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  Speaker 1: locations since then. They played Miami in the regular season
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  Speaker 1: last year, played in the Orange Bowl as well in
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  Speaker 1: the year before that, and then also when they beat
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  Speaker 1: Penn State in the Orange Bowl in the semi final
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  Speaker 1: the year they lost to Ohio State in the final,
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  Speaker 1: and they also played in the Sugar Bowl that year.
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  Speaker 1: So my Notre Dame would have the familiarity advantage in
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  Speaker 1: both of those stadiums, So I'm not sure which one
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State would go with. And that may also be
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  Speaker 1: a who does Ohio State want to play? Because do
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  Speaker 1: you want to take the Georgia would obviously prefer to
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  Speaker 1: presumably be in the Sugar Bowl. That's a little closer
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  Speaker 1: than Miami is, and it's also a very familiar venue
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  Speaker 1: for them, So maybe you take the Sugar Bowl away
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  Speaker 1: if you were hoping to face Oregon and not face
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  Speaker 1: face Georgia, or if you're hoping to face Georgia, then
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  Speaker 1: maybe you leave them the Sugar Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Or you take the Orange Bowl away from Miami, that
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  Speaker 2: sort of thing if Miami gets that far. So just
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  Speaker 2: some different things to think about. Although in terms of
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  Speaker 2: like playing somewhere, who's going to choose Miami? In terms
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  Speaker 2: of that stadium, You're gonna choose New Orleans pretty much
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  Speaker 2: every time. And yeah, I just it'll be if we
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  Speaker 2: get the opportunity after the fact, before the fact, like
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  Speaker 2: what was your thought process? And Ryan Dale'll be like, A,
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  Speaker 2: it's no big deal. Meanwhile, I'm sure they're going to
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  Speaker 2: spend a considerable amount of time talking it over before
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  Speaker 2: they actually go ahead and submit their picks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you wonder how the Sugar but Bowl being
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  Speaker 1: played in an indoor stadium versus the Orange Bowl being
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  Speaker 1: outdoors and Miami. It's not gonna be snowing in Miami,
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  Speaker 1: but it could be fifty degrees in windy or rainy
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  Speaker 1: or who knows what in the first week of January.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you're you're leaving some stuff open to you know,
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  Speaker 1: do mother nature at that point, and an offensive guy
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  Speaker 1: like Ryan Day would probably prefer to play on a fast,
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  Speaker 1: dry indoor track. So there you that might we may
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  Speaker 1: we may have cracked the code there on what they
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  Speaker 1: might want to do. And then the National Championship out
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  Speaker 1: in Vegas. I think it's no January twenty fifth, and Tony,
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  Speaker 1: let me just say I speak for all of us.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to confidently say I speak for all of
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  Speaker 1: us when I say, what if it happened sooner? What
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  Speaker 1: if it wasn't January twenty fifth? What if it What
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  Speaker 1: if you could do, I don't know, slide things up
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  Speaker 1: a week. That would that be Would that be crazy?
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  Speaker 1: I would suggest it would not.
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  Speaker 2: I think you could slide things up several weeks because
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  Speaker 2: you don't need three or four weeks between games, four
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  Speaker 2: weeks for many of these teams. So yes, I think
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  Speaker 2: that will also be part of the next step, and
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  Speaker 2: as uh Greg Sankie said, they have until November thirtieth.
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  Speaker 2: December first is the deadline on if they are going
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  Speaker 2: to change anything or go to a sixteen or do whatever,
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  Speaker 2: so they've still got some time to work that out.
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  Speaker 2: But eventually this all has to start to slide back
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, and there I've already started that with
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  Speaker 2: week zero being week one. Moving forward, I think the
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  Speaker 2: next step is getting the postseason slid more towards August
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  Speaker 2: than March.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go, a little update on the college
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  Speaker 1: football playoff this year. Obviously all very preliminary, but sort
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  Speaker 1: of an interesting, interesting, sort of new set of things
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  Speaker 1: to talk about and think about as you sort of
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  Speaker 1: figure out where where you can photo on the bracket. Ideally,
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  Speaker 1: at some point you'd love to have it where you
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  Speaker 1: can choose which team you play. That would really be
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  Speaker 1: ideal in terms of narrative and us having lots of
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  Speaker 1: maybe someday. Well, but until that day, you can find
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  Speaker 1: Tony and I here. You can find Tony and I
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  Speaker 1: always happy to get in front of some new folks,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, maybe don't start with a bold predictions
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  Speaker 1: episode like ease them in a little bit. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: we appreciate everything you guys do to help us reach
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  Speaker 1: a new audience as we count down the days to
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six college football season. That'll do for today.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.