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Jaguars Happy Hour | Pete & Tony Discuss Jags' Remaining 2024 Season · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, December sixteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought.
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  Speaker 2: To you by Jet Home Loans and now a guy who,
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  Speaker 2: just like Mac Jones, always brings the Riz, Jay P.
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  Speaker 3: Chackrick, Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday,
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  Speaker 3: December sixteenth, the busy two hours ahead as always on
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  Speaker 3: Monday after games. This is after another. Jags lost thirty
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  Speaker 3: two to twenty five, the final back and forth ball
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  Speaker 3: game of the Jets with some big time plays. I
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  Speaker 3: guess the defense has given up a lot of those
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  Speaker 3: big time plays this season. Jaguars offense, though, had some
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  Speaker 3: impactful play from young players and some cornerstone players for
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  Speaker 3: the future. As we said, explosive plays and key mobens
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  Speaker 3: against the Jaguars defense will keep it real as we
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  Speaker 3: always due, but especially in one certain segment in an
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  Speaker 3: hour number two and fanatics fan questions that went out earlier,
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  Speaker 3: and we'll go around the National Football League playoff pictures
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  Speaker 3: are heating up and a lot to get to today.
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  Speaker 3: Back and forth ball game head coach Doug Peterson after
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  Speaker 3: the game. There were some big plays, but not enough
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  Speaker 3: for the good guys they made.
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  Speaker 4: They made plays that we didn't make, and and that
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  Speaker 4: that part's unfortunate, you know, and you know, I thought
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  Speaker 4: we did some good things, but just again it comes
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  Speaker 4: down to just a couple of plays that you know,
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  Speaker 4: your your season or your game or whatever, it could
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  Speaker 4: be a little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: That's the case. Over and over again. It feels like
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  Speaker 3: we welcome in Pro Football Hall of Fame left tackle
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  Speaker 3: Tony Boselli and CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Pete.
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  Speaker 3: Another one with all these blown coverages and big time plays.
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  Speaker 5: My goodness, I mean, can you find more guys open
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  Speaker 5: in any secondary than that one? Maybe all year long?
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  Speaker 5: It's incredible. And by the way, one like the pass
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  Speaker 5: rush was very good either. I mean it wasn't a
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  Speaker 5: great day for that group as well. So look, it's
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot to dissect about the game, a lot
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  Speaker 5: to get into.
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  Speaker 6: They had a chance to win the game and they didn't.
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  Speaker 5: They couldn't get you know, stops when they needed to
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  Speaker 5: and and I think ultimately, when they look back on it,
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  Speaker 5: they won for losing. Like I always like to say,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you lost the game, but you showed some
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  Speaker 5: things in some certain situation.
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  Speaker 6: Brian Thomas is on his way to being.
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  Speaker 5: A superstar, and there are other guys that flashed at times,
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  Speaker 5: and you still lost the game, which.
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  Speaker 6: Is a good thing because you didn't hurt your draft position. Again.
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  Speaker 7: So it was interesting because you said how open guys were, Well,
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  Speaker 7: they were either really really open or not in coverage. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: because there wasn't a pass rush to your point, and
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  Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers had to hold ball and could not find
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  Speaker 7: anything down the field. And if you watch the tape,
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  Speaker 7: there was really good coverage at.
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  Speaker 6: The time I watched.
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  Speaker 5: I watched it, and I agree with you there were
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  Speaker 5: there were, But then they have their mental busts all
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  Speaker 5: the time.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Like it's like you can, like if you go
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  Speaker 7: to the fourth quarter, the third and five were Aaron
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  Speaker 7: Rodgers throws the ball to Devonte Adams down the sideline
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  Speaker 7: and he toe touches it. Not this one. This is
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  Speaker 7: the next playoffs gonna get to.
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  Speaker 3: That's the other one.
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  Speaker 6: This had to be on Jerry and Jones.
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  Speaker 7: Right, Well, let's hold on in a second. We'll get
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  Speaker 7: that in a second.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the toe tapping play you're talking about, Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: The toe tapping play, like you just tip your hat
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  Speaker 7: it was good coverage by Tyson Campbell.
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  Speaker 8: It was a great throw, it was an amazing catch. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: that's okay, right, there's nothing wrong with that. Tyson Campbell
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  Speaker 8: shouldn't hang his head. He'd be like, hey, great play,
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  Speaker 8: I had good coverage. I played it right, And you
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  Speaker 8: can live with getting beat by that.
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  Speaker 7: But well, you can't live with is on the next
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  Speaker 7: third and five later in that drive is a simple
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  Speaker 7: crossing route and everyone else is playing. Man. I heard
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  Speaker 7: Doug today talk about that they were supposed to It
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  Speaker 7: sounds like they're supposed to switch it off, So maybe
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  Speaker 7: Jarion was not wrong.
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  Speaker 6: Who's he supposed to switch that off with? There?
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  Speaker 3: Though, let's see right, there's thirty three.
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  Speaker 6: Well him, he can't cover that.
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  Speaker 7: It looks like to me either that he's supposed to
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  Speaker 7: switch it off with Monteric Brown, who's just supposed to
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  Speaker 7: play his side and switch the crossers, which seems hard
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  Speaker 7: to me, or he's supposed to run with it. But
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  Speaker 7: whoever's fault it is, it's a blown coverage and you
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  Speaker 7: can't lose this way. And we've lost too many times
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  Speaker 7: with exposive plays of guys just not being covered.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it looked weird about that, Tony for them
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  Speaker 5: to pass that office everybody else is playing man.
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  Speaker 7: That's my point. But JP, isn't that what Doug said
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  Speaker 7: in the press conference?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what? And and in fact we have
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  Speaker 3: that Doug Peterson today discussing the display exactly the third
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  Speaker 3: and five of that was blown by the Jags defense.
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  Speaker 3: Let's hear it.
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  Speaker 4: That's the challengees coaches right now. We've got to continue to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, find ways to to make sure the information
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  Speaker 4: is is is passed along properly. And it's up to
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  Speaker 4: the player obviously too to digest and ask questions on
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  Speaker 4: certain things. But you know, and and sometimes two, in
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  Speaker 4: the heat of the moment and the heat of the battle,
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  Speaker 4: you get you kind of kind of locked in on
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  Speaker 4: the the man over you a little bit, and you
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  Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to say you lock up
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  Speaker 4: or freeze up, because you don't do that, but you
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  Speaker 4: just sort of lose track of what you need to
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  Speaker 4: be doing and and you're you're focused on that one
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  Speaker 4: on that one guy. And and and sometimes just being
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  Speaker 4: able to take a deep breath and I think see
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  Speaker 4: the big picture.
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  Speaker 6: Can help. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That was after a follow up to his answer yes,
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  Speaker 3: it should have been passed off. And here here they are,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yesterday, so many big time plays allowed by
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  Speaker 3: this Jags defense.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean the part that Doug talked about
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  Speaker 7: it was earlier in this uh in his press conference
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  Speaker 7: just before that comment. And so whether it's supposed to
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  Speaker 7: be Jaran Jones running or supposed to be passed up,
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  Speaker 7: I don't know. And but Doug said passed off. Whatever.
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  Speaker 7: Here's my bigger point. It's happened too. It's happened too
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  Speaker 7: often this year, and it's cost us ball games.
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  Speaker 6: And you know that's coaching, and so Pete I was.
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  Speaker 7: That's where I was going. If it keeps on happening,
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  Speaker 7: then at some point it's the it's you gotta look
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  Speaker 7: at the coaching staff and say, guys, why are you
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  Speaker 7: allowing this? And go find someone else. Maybe they're as
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  Speaker 7: good a player, but at least they're gonna be in
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  Speaker 7: the right place, because right now, I mean, you can't
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  Speaker 7: win if you can't do assignment sound football. But if
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  Speaker 7: mister simons are gonna happen every once in a while,
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  Speaker 7: and that's part of that's part of the game too,
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  Speaker 7: But it's been constant. It's like weekend and week out
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  Speaker 7: where guys are just running wide open.
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  Speaker 6: But Tony, you, okay, they switched.
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  Speaker 5: Out one of the players. That's a switch out there.
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  Speaker 5: Mont Ark Brown is playing for Ronald Darby, so you
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  Speaker 5: switch out the bat. But let me make it because
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  Speaker 5: if you switch out the player and the same thing
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  Speaker 5: keeps happening, ultimately it goes back to the coach. And
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  Speaker 5: and here here's what if you were doing a job
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  Speaker 5: and your boss kept telling you do it this way,
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  Speaker 5: do it this way, do it this way. You gotta
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  Speaker 5: do it this way, you gotta do it, and you
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  Speaker 5: weren't doing it, and then they switched. They switched, Well,
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  Speaker 5: they switched that guy. You switch you out, put somebody
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  Speaker 5: else in. Well, that guy wasn't doing it. Then it
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  Speaker 5: would be on the boss.
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  Speaker 6: Well responsible, And we've.
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  Speaker 7: Talked about this in the past. As a coach, you
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  Speaker 7: actually can be right skim out. But if you're if
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  Speaker 7: guys can't do it, you're wrong. And so at some
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  Speaker 7: point you got to say, okay, this is too much
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  Speaker 7: for our guys, so let's keep it simple. At least
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  Speaker 7: we'll be in the right place and we'll play fast.
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  Speaker 5: Well, the right the simple thing would be Jones. You
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  Speaker 5: go with your guy, and you go with yours.
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  Speaker 7: Something that's the point of making it. And that's this case.
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  Speaker 7: But there's been other cases.
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  Speaker 6: Where other cases on Sunday.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and so it's just, you know, it's frustrating. It's
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  Speaker 7: frustrating for everybody. But it's the story of our season.
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  Speaker 7: Another one loss, one possession game. Everyone says, oh, if
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  Speaker 7: we just won those one possession games, Well we didn't.
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  Speaker 7: And the NFL is full of one possession games that
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  Speaker 7: determine the outcome every single week. And guess what. The
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  Speaker 7: good teams win them most a lot of them. The
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  Speaker 7: great teams win almost all of them. The chiefs the
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  Speaker 7: bad teams m sit where we are at three eleven.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's weird though, Like you know, we could
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  Speaker 5: just talk. We're talking about the defense right now. I
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  Speaker 5: watched the tape this morning and I came away from
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  Speaker 5: it and I'm like, who stood.
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  Speaker 6: Out on that tape for the defense? No, but not
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  Speaker 6: a one nobody.
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  Speaker 3: But first half, I mean, they looked good, right, decent enough,
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  Speaker 3: they weren't on the field. A lot of the offenses
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  Speaker 3: out there.
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  Speaker 7: First half. We did to them what teams have been
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  Speaker 7: doing to us. We had they only had three possessions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: and we had long drives, we converted third downs. I
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  Speaker 7: think we were five to six at one point on
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  Speaker 7: third down, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they had a great drive where they ran four
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  Speaker 6: straight bubble screens.
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  Speaker 7: We had, we had time and possession. Like the only
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  Speaker 7: thing we didn't do well where this game would have
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  Speaker 7: been not over but really in control, is we were
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  Speaker 7: one for three in the red zone. If we'd have
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  Speaker 7: converted those, didn't settle for short field goals and actually
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  Speaker 7: got it into the end zone, it would have been
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  Speaker 7: I think a much different game. But so the defense
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  Speaker 7: was on the field very little now when they were
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  Speaker 7: they only gave up seven and they did a good
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  Speaker 7: job of getting off and.
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  Speaker 3: That was on a drive where they had to use
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  Speaker 3: a fake punt to keep it going.
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  Speaker 7: Well that was the touchdown first one. Yeah, but that
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  Speaker 7: still counts. But my point is, but then in the
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  Speaker 7: second half, the big plays came and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 7: here we go.
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  Speaker 5: But again back to the tape, Tony and watching the tape,
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  Speaker 5: nobody stood out, nobody, you know, you know who actually
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  Speaker 5: flashed at times and had one of his better games.
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  Speaker 6: Again for the second Hamilton did some decent things.
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  Speaker 7: Thought Von Hamilton did good things. I thought Tyler Lacy
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  Speaker 7: did some good things.
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  Speaker 6: He did, he did.
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  Speaker 7: I thought in the run game we were gap sound.
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  Speaker 7: Now they're not a very good running team. The offensive
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  Speaker 7: line is not great at runbocking. I thought our pass
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  Speaker 7: rush was nowhere to be non existent?
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  Speaker 6: Where where were? Where were Walker and Allen?
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  Speaker 7: I thought they were you know, I thought they had
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  Speaker 7: big days against those guys. Now, Morgan Moses is a
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  Speaker 7: really good, solid veteran.
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  Speaker 6: The rookies playing well. The rookies playing well for them
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  Speaker 6: now at left tackle too.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but the rookie struggled a little bit last week.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, but Josh Josh Heinz Allen needs to go
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  Speaker 7: beat that guy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah he does. I agree, I agree. I was disappointed
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  Speaker 6: the pass rush.
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  Speaker 5: That was the one thing for me watching the tape
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  Speaker 5: is I expected the pass rush to win consistently and
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  Speaker 5: they did not.
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  Speaker 7: And if you give Aaron Rodgers time, he's going to
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  Speaker 7: figure it out at some point in that game, and
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  Speaker 7: he figured it out in the second half. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: Devonte hadn't. I've never even heard of this before, Pete,
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  Speaker 7: maybe it's happened before. Now zero catches in the first
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  Speaker 7: half nine for one ninety eight, and it was incredible.
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  Speaker 6: It was nuts.
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  Speaker 5: And and look he's a great route runner, and and
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  Speaker 5: you know, he did some really good things that release.
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  Speaker 7: He did on on the touchdown he scored on the
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  Speaker 7: little in cut against Tyson Campbell. Yeah, that's the lease
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  Speaker 7: in the top of the route movie.
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  Speaker 6: That's yeah, that's that's elite.
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  Speaker 5: And the other one where he looked like he scored
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  Speaker 5: and he didn't. You know, he just broke a tackle.
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  Speaker 5: Jar And Jones covering him across the formation, he just
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  Speaker 5: didn't tackle him. I mean, were there were plays to
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  Speaker 5: be made, they didn't make them. That that's the problem
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  Speaker 5: with this defense all year long, bust plays to be made,
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  Speaker 5: not making them.
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  Speaker 7: But that peak, that's what teams who are three and
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  Speaker 7: eleven do.
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  Speaker 6: That's right, that's right, you're right.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that's who you are. I mean, I hate
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  Speaker 7: to say it, but that's who you are at this point.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 9: The one into the middle of the field to Garrett Wilson,
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  Speaker 9: that's that's looked like it was savage, just based on
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  Speaker 9: what me watching the tape, he got he has to
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  Speaker 9: make that play.
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  Speaker 6: That that's all I mean's playing.
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  Speaker 5: He's a single high safety if I'm not mistaken, and
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  Speaker 5: he just why he's leaking to the Devonte Adams side
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  Speaker 5: when there's two other guys over there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's three deep there in the.
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  Speaker 6: Look at it.
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  Speaker 5: You'll see he takes a step to the right there,
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  Speaker 5: you can see it. And then he comes back and
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  Speaker 5: he and he doesn't need to if you look at
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  Speaker 5: the top, there's two guys want that guy.
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  Speaker 7: But but look at the linebackers, Pete. They're on top
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  Speaker 7: off of each other. Yeah, I mean they get no depth.
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  Speaker 7: To watch the linebackers, they get no depth. They're sitting
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  Speaker 7: right next to each other.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's bad too.
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  Speaker 5: But they can't carry and that defense they don't carry
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  Speaker 5: that though in the other one there's a defense where
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  Speaker 5: they do get caught where Lloyd doesn't carry it down
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  Speaker 5: the seam.
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  Speaker 7: And and that's that's Tampa two. They're playing Tampa two there, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: and Devin Lloyd and everyone's you know what kind of
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  Speaker 7: defense is Devin Lloyd covering devont Adams? NFL like every
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  Speaker 7: team runs this in the middle linebacker carries that. Now,
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  Speaker 7: the safeties are too wide.
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  Speaker 6: And might they widen way too much too much.
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  Speaker 7: But with that said, at this point, like Devon Hamilton's
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  Speaker 7: I mean, excuse me, Devin Lloyd needs to be on
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  Speaker 7: it on his horse from the start. I mean, if
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  Speaker 7: you get beat underneath, fine, come up and tackle.
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  Speaker 6: But I that's just that's just Tampa two.
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  Speaker 5: Both they widened too much and that's a tough ask
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  Speaker 5: of him on that guy. But you're right, he needs
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  Speaker 5: to get on his horse right away and go and
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  Speaker 5: maybe he makes a play on the ball.
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  Speaker 7: He was, he was shoveling the first three tests, okay.
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  Speaker 5: But even if he even if he does get going
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  Speaker 5: right away, it's still a tough ass. That's why you
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  Speaker 5: the safeties can't widen that much because they got to
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  Speaker 5: come over and blast that play when the ball is
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  Speaker 5: thrown in the air, and they widen too much.
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  Speaker 6: So again, probably not the right coverage. You know.
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  Speaker 7: Here's why I think Devin Lloyd has done a good
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  Speaker 7: job in the run game this year. I agree, he's
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  Speaker 7: a job in the run game, but we also know
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  Speaker 7: Devin Lloyd struggles in coverage. And if you're the defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 7: you know that. So maybe not like asking playing Tampa two.
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  Speaker 7: If Devin Lloyd's your middle linebacker, asking him to carry
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  Speaker 7: Devonte Adams isn't the right.
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  Speaker 6: Call, and he's not the fastest guy in the world.
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  Speaker 7: Doesn't coverage cover great because I don't think he runs great, right.
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  Speaker 5: He also gets he's also out of position a lot,
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  Speaker 5: not too. I mean, you know, he gets caught flat
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  Speaker 5: footed and he doesn't. He doesn't teams are playing man.
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  Speaker 5: Team is playing man. He's playing z all.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he gets caught a lot in that stuff too.
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  Speaker 7: And but on the flip side of devil, Lloyd's done
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  Speaker 7: gotten done a good job with the run game.
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  Speaker 6: I agree. I agree, he's much better in the run
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  Speaker 6: game than he used to be.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, you said earlier, guys that the DeVante
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  Speaker 3: Adams hundred ninety eight yards in the second half. Haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen that a lot, well, Ben Volan of the Boston
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  Speaker 3: Globe on X earlier, I said, it's the sixth time
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  Speaker 3: since ninety one. This you know, this is the sixth
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  Speaker 3: most since nineteen ninety one. But Jamar Chase has the
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  Speaker 3: most since then, two hundred and twelve yards this season
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  Speaker 3: in a second half. But it doesn't happen often.
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  Speaker 5: But wait, but that's not what he said. Tony said,
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  Speaker 5: guy having none and then to.
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  Speaker 7: Zero catches zero that I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just talking about second halves by themselves.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, Chap, But I'm like, the guy did
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  Speaker 7: not I mean we didn't have a catch, had one drop,
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  Speaker 7: one target.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Well, I mean almost the week before for Brian
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  Speaker 3: Thomas Jr. Right, I mean he had two targets, no catches,
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  Speaker 3: and then through to him last week, but about this much.
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: Brian Thomas had like eighty It's a little different. It's
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: eight and two touchdowns.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, let's come back. We'll get into the offensive side
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: of this thing, Pete. We've got plenty to discuss on defense. Still,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: certainly that was a rough day at the office for them,
• 16:27
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  Speaker 7: I think the opportunity just came my way. Here.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: We say, don't chase plays and plays.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: On my way.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: So I made the place, and I pride myself on
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: being a being a reliable player for this team, and
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: that's what I do.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Saw Brenton strains Jaguars tight end and twelve targets eleven
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: catches seventy three yards in the losing effort yesterday thirty
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: two to twenty five. The final score. Welcome back. It's
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• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Tony Vasselli and Pete Prisco and Stranger's day was nice.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior's day also very good. Fourteen targets, ten catches,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: one hundred and five yards and two touchdowns guys, and
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: you got two young players getting opportunities to really step
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: it up and play well. Certainly Strange who is gonna
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: get a lot of that time with Evan Ingram out
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: for the rest of the year. But Brian Thomas just continues,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Pete to ascend, and you know, he's getting close on a
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: thousand yards. We'll see what he ends up with, but
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: he's well on his way.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: He's a star.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: He is the You know, there are certain guys in
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: this league that are number one wide receivers, and you
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: could say that without question, he is going to be
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: that guy.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: Not there yet, but he's going to be that guy.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Big, strong, athletic, can run, knows how to run routes,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: getting a lot better running his routes.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: I think he has a chance to be one of
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: those elite wide receivers. I really do. And and I
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: love everything he does.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: And the fact that he and Strange had the type
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: of days that they had goes back to parts of
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: the season where they weren't getting the football, neither one
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: of them, and I mean just mystifying sometimes it weren't.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, if we go back and look at Brian Thomas,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: what do you have four targets in the one game
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: and barely any of the first half of another, and
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: it makes no sense.
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think I think it's fair, But
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: also you got to put you got to keep in
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: mind that he's a rookie, gotten better throughout the year.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: And this was a couple of weeks. This is two months,
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: two weeks, three weeks.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Ago against Minnesota, had three targets too, catches, this is
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: November tenth.
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: Fair, I'm not in that game.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: You're becoming the stat tender all of a sudden.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: If I'm not mistaken, that was mac Jones's first start
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: as well.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Well, they could have run the fourteen bubble screens that
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: they ran yesterday for him to get to the football.
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: I understand that, but a lot of things and I
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: think you know this. Sometimes the play called is not
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: always executed as called, and sometimes has changed at the
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: line of scrimmage, and.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: So quarterback over and you say, run the damn play
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: I called, so you get the ball, and then the
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: playmakers heads.
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: Well maybe that's what we're seeing since the second half
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: of Tennessee.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: And what a strange I'm gonna look up strange as
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: game logs how many because there wasn't even play.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: Okay, let me back up. Strange is different because Evan
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: Ingram was your you know, starting tight end, and we
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: talked about this on the show. My belief, probably for
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: the last eight to ten weeks, is that their best
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: personnel grouping was twelve great bigsby or Etn Strange and
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: Evan Ingram, Brian Thomas and what other receiver, other receiver
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: you want out there, whoever's healthy. I thought that was
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: their best personnel group. If I was going to be
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: critical of anything from the For the coaching staff is
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: would be with Doug and Press and the offensive staff
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: is why did they not go to more twelve personnel
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: earlier in the season with because Brenton Strange since week
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: one has been your best block blocker on the entire team,
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: the most physical blocker who finishes play every snap. The
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: guy's an absolute stud. And what excites excited me from
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: this game this past Sunday is Breton Strange showed me
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: and I thought he could, is that he can be
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: a true every down tight end that can stress a
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: defense because you have to treat him as a blocking
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: tight end when in the run game, and you better
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: cover him in the passing game. If you look at
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: the great tight ends in the league, I'll start with Gronkowski,
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: who I think is probably the greatest, most dominant tight
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: end to ever play the game. Doesn't have the best numbers,
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: but as far as the ability, the best, Yeah, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: mean just dominate. Why was he so good Because he
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: was like another offensive tackle in the run game and
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: would physically get after you and could block defensive ends, backers, anybody.
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: And in the past game he was so big and
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: powerful and could run he was a nightmare to cover
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: for a safety. Safeties were too small and linebackers are
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: too slow. If you look at George Kittle, who I
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: think is probably the best tight end in football. Now
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: what makes him so good run game? Dominant blocker, pass game,
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: very good receiver because it puts the defense in a
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: bind of how do you treat him on every down?
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: Evan Ingram will would never be that because he does
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: not have the blocking or ability or the size that
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: allowed him to be a dominant blocker. He's a willing blocker,
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: but he's not a dominant blocker so that when he's
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: on the field, you can almost treat him as a
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: wide receiver.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: He's more receiver than tight end.
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: That's right, and that's why I thought playing a twelve personnel,
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: those two give you some advantages against the defense. Breton
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: Strange was the biggest positive for me coming out of
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: the game on Sunday because I was like, Okay, I
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: thought he could do it. I agree, But now you
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: have a legitimate guy who you can say, okay, we
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: have our tight end of the future. And now, depending
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: on the health of Evan Ingram and whoever is making
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: the decisions next year, whether it's Trent or somebody else
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: is obviously you have to look at salary cap and
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: that whole discussion and what you do. But you bring
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: if Evan comes back healthy and he's having surgery and
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: everything else, well you have a very nice twelve package.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Very like those two guys on the field give you
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: something and give you a lot of flexibility to do
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: some interesting stuff. Because Evan's a very good move tight end.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: I think you can line them up at full back,
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: you can do different things with them. Breton strange being
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: on the field every down.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: But look, I'm gonna go back to Okay, Philadelphia, no
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: targets three against Minnesota. Okay, wait, let me go back
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: even further against New England. Note then five against Green Bay.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: And he played well in that game. Remember he had
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: five catches for fifty nine yards, then none, then three,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: then one, then two, then one. Come on and he
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: and if I'm there was one of those games where
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: he barely.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Had any.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Of those games. Yeah, I forget which one was. I
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: forget which one. I can look it up real quick.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah I can't. I can't.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: I don't have an argument, no justification for that. That's
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: just bad coaching. That's just bad coaching. It's all this
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: whether I mean, he You're right, he's a good, willing blocker.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: Now he's not a willing blocker.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: Good I mean, but he's a good blocker.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: Okay, next time you watch the tape.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: P yeah, I know he's a good blocker.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: Watch him. Watch what he did on the goal line
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: to Reddick. He took Reddick six yards off the football
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: and put him on his back in the end zone.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Strange had nine snaps in the Philly game.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: It's mystifying.
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: Brent Strange could play football boys, And wasn't.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: That the game where Thomas didn't didn't have only had
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: a couple of targets too. I think if I'm mistaken,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: then I think that was the game. But anyways, they
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: have themselves a nice tight end. They have themselves a
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: nice tight true blocking, pass catching tight end.
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: So here's my question, Pete, because I love Brian Thomas,
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: and I didn't know what we'd get out of him.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: I didn't watch enough college football last year, but you
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: knew he could fly as soon as you saw him
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: in camp. But was he gonna be polished enough as
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: a rat receiver? I know there were some questions coming
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: out of LSU with his hands. He was always the
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: number two behind neighbors, so it was easier for him.
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: So I think there was questions coming in could he
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: really even you? And I? I remember I asked you
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: and I said, is he a true number one? And
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: he said, I'm not sure he's a number one, but
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: he's a good player. Everything we've seen so far would
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: tell you that he's a number one. My question, Pete,
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: is he can he be that alpha number one Chase Jefferson.
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: I think he can because of the kill set, and
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: I love his attitude and toughness, and he has a
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: little bit of you know, subtle swagger. The way he
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: does things.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: You know what, else is fun to watch too.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: When he doesn't get the football, I mean, he gotta
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: be careful about it sometimes, but like and I'll give
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: you an example. There was a play on the goal line.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: In fact, I think he checked it down to ATN
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: on third, third and goal.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: Do you remember the play?
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: There was no way ATM was getting the goal from
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: like that was that after he took his stupid, his
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: stupid stet bounce. Yeah yeah, okay, it's third down from
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: the twelve. There's no way etn. They're dropping in his
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: own cover. There's no way he's getting there. But if
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: you go back and watch that play and there wasn't
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: a pressure on mac Jones on that play. You got
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: Thomas clear into the back end line for touchdown and
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: you could see his reaction.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: As soon as he checked it down. He knew he
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: missed him and he wasn't getting in. And I like that. Okay.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Receivers always, and you know you play with two of them,
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: they always want the ball.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: They always have to have the ball.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: When they don't get the ball, they can plain about it,
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: and I'm okay with that. You just can't go pass
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: the line like aj Brown probably went past the line
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: last week in Philadelphia.
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: You can't go pass the line.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: But I like the competitive drive of the kid.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: The the stride.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: The stride is incredible when he gets the ball in
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: his hands, that long striding that he has. He I mean,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: he's been times, I think the second fastest in the
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: league this year.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: I'll say, Pete, you know it jumps out of me.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: Is two things. Picking up on what you're saying because
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: I agree with everything you just said, and the I
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: think it was the first half, maybe the second half,
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: he catches that crosser. It's his own coverage. The safety's
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: coming down has the angle and Brian catches the ball
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: and just separates.
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: And it looks effortless and he's just pulling away and
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: even when he gets those bubbles, it doesn't look like
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: he's moving and he's just eating up yards.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and he is abjectively fast.
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: He has a natural like feel of where to go
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: and to pick up yards. And then the big thing
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: that and I can't remember the last time we had this.
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, the closest since I've played would be Alan Robinson,
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: who's I'm not even comparing the two, but Alan Robinson
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: was great with that fifty to fifty ball. But it
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: reminds me of like remember when Jimmy was when we played.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: If the ball was thrown deep, like you knew that
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: Jimmy was either gonna come up with it or he
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: was gonna get past interference, like like the ball in
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: the air, he was gonna go win and get it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: Every time we throw it deep to Brian Thomas, I
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: get this feeling like he's gonna go get.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: It, like you don't get the one in the end
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: zone though.
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: Then or he's gonna get it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: Should he have caught.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: The one in the end zone a pretty good ball.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: I thought it was a little high, but I thought
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: little normally he would catch that though, But what I.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: Thought he could do because he kind of ran through
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: it and jumped, But like if he would have like
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: gathered himself and went up and tried to high point it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I think was it last week that pack j Jones
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: actually overthrew him deep like it's almost impossible to do.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: He got him coming out of the break on that
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: one third down place.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: What a great route that was again, I mean he's
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: wide open.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: But by the way, on that drive, it was that
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: one and then the Parker Washington ran a great out too,
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: and Max sailed him.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Pete, you're right. That twenty two point one five miles
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: per hour on the week five eighty five yard touchdown.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: The second fastest ball carrier in the league this season,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Cavante Turpini of Dallas is only faster.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: Yes, I mean it's incredible, and he's and he runs
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: he makes it look like, Okay, I'm gonna go back
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: to the touchdown on that. He beat the Stiggers kid
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: on the one on the yesterday.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: That route that's growing. He wouldn't do that. He wouldn't.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: He wasn't doing that in week two, three or four.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: That's that's a kid who's learned how to run his routes,
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: and that's gonna make him even more dangerous.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: I just like when people try to chase him, they
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: can't catch him.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, if he gets loose, look out.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: I mean he's like so like the like we've been.
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: It's been such a negative year three and eleven. Nothing's
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: gone well, it's just miserable. But I'm telling you, I
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: didn't think coming into the season when we started that
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: I'd be leaving this season. Say, Brian Thomas is a
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: number one receiver.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be in that class.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: I really do like he is.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: That's why, you know, That's why people always say to me.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: They say to me a lot on Twitter. I always say,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: this guy should if they if they make a change,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: it'd be a great job to go to.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: And they say, well, what do you got? What's there?
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: There is stuff there, So let's talk about what we have.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: We'll come back. Let's do that. When we come back,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: we've gotta get to a break here. We'll come back,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: we'll dig into this a little bit more on the
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: offensive side of what's there for the Jaguars. We had.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: We also have draft talk coming up tonight. Pete's gonna
• 31:38
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• 31:40
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't be more happy for both those guys. You know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: you know, this is a great opportunity for Brenton, and
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: he really he really rose to the occasion. And you
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: talk about a great, humble kid that plays tough, place
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: physical and and you know the type of type of
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: player that that we know that he is. And then
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: of course b t you know, you just see the.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: You know, a top receiver in this league.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's a good young receiver that that's gonna
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: continue to get better. And and you know, as we
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: get you know, as we get Trevor back, and you
• 32:49
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• 32:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's a good combination to.
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  Speaker 3: and we left off with what is there? What do
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: you have moving ahead? Let's start on offense after this season?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: What are you most excited to see on that side
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: of the ball.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: Well, me personally, I think you look at the whole group.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: You have your quarterback. Now he's got to get better.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: But you have your quarterback, you have a number one
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: wide receiver, you have two.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Now you have a.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Dual threat tight end, a guy who can block and catch,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: and you have a pass catching tight end. You have
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: a young slot receiver who I think is getting better
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: by the week.
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: So what's sawt of light from that group? That core group?
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: You want to go to the running back you got
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: a power runner.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: And by the way, there were some things yesterday and
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: yesterday's game, I didn't think the running backs had that
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: great day.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: Even though they ran. There were they were a little
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: they were.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: A little hesitant at times and bounced it a couple
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: of times when they hit the hole was right in
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: front of him.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you agree with me, Tony.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: I thought there were a couple of times where Etn
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: bounced it when he had the hole right in front
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: of him. But I think as a group, you have
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: a nice nuclears there. And by the way, since the
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: left tackle has been paid, holy cowie's been good. I mean,
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: it's like a different dude there. And maybe it's just
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: because he knows he's the guy now.
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean, if you look at this offense,
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: I agree with Pete. You have your quarterback. I'm still
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: I'm a believer that I said it. I've said it
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: multiple times. We will win the super Bowl with Trevor
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: Lawrence at quarterback. He will win the Super Bowl. Does
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: he need to get better? Absolutely, Everyone needs to get
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: better to do that. By the way, the whole organization
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: needs to get better to do that. I gree with
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: Pete on Brian Thomas. We've killed that and beating that
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: one today. I mean, we all believe that. I love
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: Brenton Strange. I'm gonna leave Evan Ingram out right now
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: because he's going in his last year of his deal.
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: But let's just like, you have a young a young
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: player friendly contract, who's a I think has a chance
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: to be a really good tight end. You have two
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: bookend tackles. Anton did not. I don't think Anton's had
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: a great year this year. He needs to get better,
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: but he's a good player.
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: It wasn't great. It wasn't great On Sunday.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: He had a bad first half, a couple of penalties.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: He struggled McDonald at times. Listen the left tackle three
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: games in a rows. Is he getting paid just I mean,
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: he was great, And the question with Walker was consistency
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: in the pass game. In his protection, He's been outstanding,
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: Ye outstanding in the protection, and we knew he was
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: a good run blocker, and he continues to do a
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: good job and be physical in the run game. I
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: like what Parker Washington has done. I'm not ready to
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: say he's a starting slot in this league, but he's
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: getting better and he's had a good year. He's run
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: some really nice route and I think he's dynamic with
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: the ball in his hands after the running catch. And
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: I think he's a tough guy. He's a tough kid,
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: and you have, like the big question is going to be,
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: you know, you had Bigsby for two more years under contract.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: The big question is going to be what do you
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: do with Etn. He's going to his fifth year. You
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: don't have to make a decision this offseason, but it's
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: coming up, and he's gonna have a big cap number
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: next year, so I think you got to look at that.
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: But you have you have a you have a back.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: So if you exercise the option on him though.
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: No I know, I mean he's here next year, but
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: he has a big cap number.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that fifth year is six million and change. I
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: think yep, and so.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: I didn't think he ran that well on Sunday.
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: It's not huge, but well, I think t used correctly.
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: He's very good in the past game open field. It
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: does a good job. I do tend to think that
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: he bounces it too much.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: He did on Sunday about three times at times.
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: But he's a good football player, no doubt about it.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: So at least for next year, you have two backs,
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: and really what you got to focus on is the
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: interior that offensive line because you have an aging center
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: and an aging right guard, which, by the way, I
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: think Brandon Sheriff has done a good this year. I
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: questioned them not doing something at that position because of
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: his age and the injury history. He's been good.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: I mean he's been He's been better than the center
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: of the last month.
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's he's tough man. He does a good job.
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: He I mean, it's like this year, the more beat
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: up he's gotten, the more physical he's playing. Like I'm
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: telling you, like now, the big question is going in
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: next year. It would be Brandon Sheriff's eleventh year and
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: he's beat up I mean the guy, the guy's warrior.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: I mean, I got so much respect for Brandon Sheriff
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: because at his age on a three and eleven team
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: going the wrong way and he's beat the hell, he's
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: not blinking and looking for the sideline. He won't come out.
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: I mean, at one point in the game yesterday I
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: was watching, he's grabbing his arm. I could tell he
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: hurt his shoulder. It's already banged up, obviously in pain.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: Didn't even look to the.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: Sideline, the line, the line as a whole. Aside from
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: Harrison's problems that they were okay on.
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: I thought they were fine.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and there wasn't the time they ran the.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: Ball find yeah, I thought, And there were holes, I said,
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: I thought there were holes there that that ETN missed.
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: I thought Anton struggled. I think Anton needs that. The
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: kid the kiddies, the guy's playing against Will McDonald's the
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: fourth is a speed guy. And my critiqueould be like,
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: know who you're blocking, get off the ball, make him
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: bully you and take away, just set inside out off
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: the ball and say if you want to run me over,
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: go for good luck because he can't have you watched,
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: I thought Walker little did a good job when McDonald
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: was on that side. And so, I mean, but Anton
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: is talented, like I I I still think Anton's gonna
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: be a very good player.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: So three fists of the line is also back.
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because Ezra and I thought Azra played well.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: He played on Sunday and well, there were a couple
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: of times where where Quin Williams, who's a beast.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: You know, God, come on.
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: In this league, you're not gonna have five Pro Bowl caliber.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, I get it, I get it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, he's a he's a starting caliber,
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: tough guy who you can go win football games with.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: The So you go into the season. You feel good
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: about your left side of your offensive line. You feel
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: good about the right tackle because he's going to get better.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: You feel good about your quarterback. You feel good about
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: your number one wide receiver, you feel good about Strange,
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: and you feel pretty good about the two running backs.
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Now, what I really don't feel good about is
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: this team has not built their line of scrimmage with
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: any real depth or developmental guys that you feel like
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: you can develop into the future of futures. Order no,
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: and and.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: And you have to say if Sheriff and Morse both
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: walked away decided they didn't want to play.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: You be in trouble.
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: You have no one to roll in there say okay,
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: we feel good now. You were hoping Cooper Hodges, and
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: he had shown potential, but he trashed his knee, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: who knows if he ever plays again.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: I have a question, if we're so excited about all
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: these guys, why didn't they do it this year?
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: They didn't play well.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Because well, well Rick Little wasn't starting at left tackle,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: but how long has he been starting at left tackle?
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: Jesse Walker Little news starter. I mean, I mean Brenton.
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: Street, Cleveland, Cleveland was hurt.
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: But I'll even say it differently JP because I said
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: it earlier. You have to look at the entire organization.
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: We're just picking out. We are now going from individuals.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: This isn't fantasy football where you just plug guys in
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: say oh we got this guy, great, I'm gonna go win.
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: It's a team sport. It's how you build it, it's
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: how you do everything. I mean, you gotta look at everything.
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: And I'm saying that as a person not down there
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: all the time. So I'm not calling balls and strikes
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: at this point because I'm not there every day. I'm
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: not there very often on a daily basis. However, you're
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: three and eleven. You lost six of seven to finish
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: the season last year. Well, that's the other question that
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: makes you four and eighteen. Something's not right.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: Well, here's the other part of that. JP.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: You asked that question of the guys we just mentioned,
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: how many of them were top ten at their position?
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: The answer is today, none.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: None, zero, none, not a one.
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: Okay, But let me ask you a different question, Pete.
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: How many of the guys we just talked about have
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: the ability and potential to be top ten at their position?
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: The quarterback okay one, the wide receiver two, the left tackle.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: Three, that might be it.
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: I disagree.
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: Where's where are you going?
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: I think both the right tackle on your tight end
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: can be top ten players.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: Boy, you're really optimistic today.
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: I am. I am high on Britain strange and and
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: I'll give Jeff Logman he was on it first, but
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: probably it's starting in about week two or three for
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: me watching that dude block on the limited reps he
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: got and how he attacked people and the want to
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: the physicality, Well.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: That was the that was the book on him last
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: year and he didn't block very well.
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you whatever he did in the off season,
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: doing it and doing more of.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: It this offseason, guys, let's come back. We're going to
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: get to the defensive side of this conversation and keeping
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: it real. That's in a little bit. We'll come back though,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Pete and talk about the draft order quickly because this
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: draft talk time, the Jaguars have been eliminated. Like we said,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: defensive part of that coming up. And then in the
• 44:12
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• 44:15
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• 44:21
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• 44:28
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• 44:49
  Speaker 3: this might be your favorite segment of the year because
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars, with the loss yesterday, moved up to number
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: four in the current draft order for the twenty twenty
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: five NFL. Yes, and they would that win the other week.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Moved out of the number one spot for the moment,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: but they're right there in the top five, fat number
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: four with three weeks to go.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't think the Giants are going to win
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: a game, so I don't think they're getting that one.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: But they could end up at number two, which would
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: still have value because there's two quarterbacks and you know,
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: you look cam Ward and should do Urs Sanders are
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: the two quarterbacks, and so you want to get one
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: of those guys. So if Jacksonville has the number two pick,
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: it's much like the number one pick.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: There's gonna be value in it. They play the Raiders
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: next week.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: The Raiders played tonight, Membo.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Lose to the Raiders, lose to the Raiders, lose to
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: the Raiders, and then they can end up with the
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: you know, with the second pick.
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: Possibly, yeah, I I don't think. I don't think Giants
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: are gonna win again. I don't either the Raiders. I
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: don't could very well know. I don't see us losing
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: the Raiders. They're gonna have a third quarterback.
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: No, Max Crosby, Does that count as the West Coast?
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Well the history says it's not great on
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: the West Coast.
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: I actually think because I just don't see us losing
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: the rest of the games.
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, if they do, it's the easiest schedule the
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: rest of the way of anybody in the league.
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: Well, that's why, that's why good, That's why I don't
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: think we're going to I actually think we'll probably end
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: up moving down a little bit in the draft. I
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: think we'll end up with four or five wins, so
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: we'll end up still top ten.
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: But four or five. You think they have a chance
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: to sweep the last three games?
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: No, I said four or five wins. We have three now,
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: so I think we could win one or two of
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: the last three.
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: I don't. Yeah, maybe one.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll discuss this a little bit more when we
• 46:58
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• 47:01
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• 47:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to get an opportunity.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: You know, you're still trying to go out and compete
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: to win the game, right so but if you get
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: a chance to play one of your young players and
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: it's a good time to do it, then we'll do it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Hey. Coach Doug Peterson earlier today on playing some younger
• 47:36
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• 48:07
  Speaker 3: in a back and forth battle yesterday failed in the
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: fourth quarter of the defense, gave up explosive plays all
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: quarter long and killed their hopes. Rogers and Adams connected
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: time and again, and the Jets beat the Jaguars thirty
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: two to twenty five. Young players on offense look good.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas junior Brenton Strange especially stepped in and played well.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: The Jags now fall to three and eleven. They are
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: back to number four in the twenty twenty five NFL
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Draft order at the moment. Three games now to go.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: This week it's Vegas baybe to face the hapless two
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: and eleven Raiders. They played a knight by the way,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: and then home against the Titans and on the road
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: against the Colts. So we'll see moving down the stretch
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: and time now, gentlemen for keeping it real. Presented by nobody.
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: Hey, is it is it? Raiders Bears tonight?
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: No Raiders found there's two games tonight Vikings Bears too.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: By the way, the NFL has about forty games in
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: the next ten days.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable, right, there's cramming them in.
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: It's amazing.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: You got two on Saturday, you got one on Thursday,
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: two on Saturday, then you have Sunday, and you got Monday,
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: you got Christmas two, and then you got I mean it's.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Saturday, right, Yeah, that's how they do it. We had
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: half of this sea.
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: Is any NFL fan complaining?
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: No?
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: No, one day they will watch all of them every
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: day of the week. We had the offensive side of
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: this discussion earlier. What do you have? What are you
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: excited about? Moving ahead? But we'll keep it real now
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: on the defensive side, moving ahead for a defense that
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: hasn't played well statistically all year and certainly in key
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: moments late in games. That was proven again yesterday. What
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: players on defense are you most excited about beyond this season?
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Moving ahead? You know what you have in contracts long term?
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: What do you like guys well?
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: Aside from yesterday, I think the two have played well
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: this year.
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: They're not I mean that both of them. They weren't
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: good on Sunday.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, they weren't awful on Sunday, just didn't generate
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: the pass rush I thought they should and would have.
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: I think Tyson Campbell had a rough go of at
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: times on Sunday, But that's a tough ass to cover
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: that guy. I mean, he's one of the best route
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: runners who's ever played in this league. But I think
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: he's someone used to be excited about. I mean, then
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: you can probably end the conversation there, at least at
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: least right now.
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: Tony I think he definitely had more issues on defense,
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: which is interesting because you invested a lot on that
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: side of the ball.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: Well, which brings By the way, let me let me
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: just bring this up while we're talking about the defense.
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: One of your free agents didn't play a snap.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Ronald Darby did not touch the field.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: Pete, your other defensive lineman free agent, didn't register on
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: the stat sheet, and he played and he played. Yeah, so,
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: and if you really want to continue going through the
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: free agent class, the one wide receiver wasn't doing much
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: and he's hurt, so they got little banged for that buck.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: I gotta tell you that right now. And the center
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: has been better than what they had, but he hadn't
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: been dominant. So you look at what they did in
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: the offseason. If you had to give a grade to
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: that free agency class considering the money they gave them,
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: that's an f.
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: And if you look at the draft, I mean in
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: twenty one, you use the second round, high second rounder,
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: almost the first rounder, the second rounder on Tyson Campbell
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: the next then paid them the next year. You you
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: invested two first rounders, and really two first rounders and
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: a second or third rounder because you had to trade
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: up to get Devin Lloyd. You get Devin Lloyd and
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: Trayvon Walker and twenty three. Who was their first rounder
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: in twenty three I'm drying a blank.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Anton, Harrison Anton.
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: And then in the second round, well that was when
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: they took Strange and yeah, the offense, it was more offense.
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: And then this year you drafted a de tackle in
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: the top of.
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: The second round who is an actor for most of
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: the year.
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: So you've invested you know, some capital.
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: Well capital and money.
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I'm just saying and so, and the defense
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: is historically banned this year. I mean they struggle, and
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: they struggled down the stretch last year with a bunch
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: of missed assignments and issues last year down the stretch.
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: Who am I excited about? I think both ends. Absolutely.
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: I think Tyson Campbell is a good good corner. Do
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: I think he's is he played like a shutdown corner? No,
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: but he's good. He's a good player. Campbell's a good player.
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Jaron Jones, I'm excited about.
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: Jarring Jones will be John Jones is a good player.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: He's played better lately, right, I mean he's he's gotten
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: better as it's gone along.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: I think, yes, yeah, that's somebody you could, you could,
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: you'd like to have Jarion Jones on your team.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: Yes, I like Jaron Jones. I think Devin Lloyd's is
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: sam Sam linebacker.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: Which means he plays two downs essentially.
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: I didn't say how much he'd play.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, but before you drafted him, that's not that's
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: not quite what you thought you get.
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: Out of it. But he's on your team, so it
• 53:57
  Speaker 7: doesn't matter.
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: I get it. But I'm just I'm doing the valuation
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: based on the rock.
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: I think he's just starting SAM linebacker in his league,
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: is my point.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, all the positions you guys have mentioned, and Pete,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: you've talked about this before, are all on the outside
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: of the defense, interior, D line, middle of the linebacker corps.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: The safeties are not on your list right now.
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: Well, okay, I do think Mason Smith has talent and can.
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: He just has to.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: And there were a couple of plays he made in
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: the run game on you know, he got down the
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: line and made a couple point but he he's got
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: to learn how to disengage.
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: It's yeah, he's got to learn how to use his hands.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: I don't I think not playing him early in the
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: season heard him, whether it was his fault or whoever's fault,
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: he didn't play, and he didn't He hasn't learned how
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: to play the position yet. He is a powerful man
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: who needs to learn how to play the position, and
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: that shows up on tape.
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: You know. One of the things that it is disappointing
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: because I thought he'd have a big year Cisco and
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: I thought he was part of the future at safety.
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: He regressed and he hasn't had a good year. He's gone.
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: I hope that Antonio Johnson could be a guy. He's
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: a young player.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: Still, have you.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: Seen anything from him when he's been starting back there
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: that leads you to.
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: Believe that I'm hopeful. How about that?
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: I mean no, I yeah, you could be hopeful, but
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen anything from him. So so to answer
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: your question, JP, there's three players, you could three three
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: or four players?
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: Three and a half. Let's say that you can really
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: be excited about it.
• 55:30
  Speaker 7: I think I think at least four. I was gonna
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: say four and a half.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: Where's four? Where's four and a half? Jerry and Jones?
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: You count him as the half? No, he's a full Okay,
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: so you're given Lloyd the half. Yeah, okay, So so
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: of all the assets and money spent on that side
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: of the ball, because there's a lot of money spent
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: on that side of the.
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: And assets.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: How many linebackers have they drafted and money have they
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: spent on that position?
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: A whole lot.
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: But Pete, I'm gonna go, but Pete, let's let's I'm
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: want to take it a little further because here's a
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: because I do think there's like I think fer you
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: can win football games with him as your middle linebacker
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: and surround him. I think I think Ventro Miller has
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: a chance to be a good, good linebacker like he's shown.
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: He's shown stuff. When the guys I listed are like
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: where you're like starters that you can build around. I
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: think there's other guys on this defense that you go
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: win football games with him on the field, the starters,
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: like I like you. If you watch him, he runs around,
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: he's always in the right position. Is he gonna be a.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: Is he a game is he? Is he a game changer?
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: So it's okay.
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: You know a lot of teams have middle linebackers.
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: Great, it's great to have guys who are like game changers.
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: If you have other things around them.
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: That's my point. That's what like. So I just want
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: to make.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: A little of money to not be a game changer.
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: The way we just described it is that you only
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: have like four guys three and a half or four
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: or four and a half whatever number one put on
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: it that you think are starting caliber guys you can
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: go win with. And I don't think that's true. I
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: think that's streme all right, But where.
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: Where are the top ten players on the defense?
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I like this question. You did that for the offense
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: to Pete.
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well I thought josh heims Allen was. I mean,
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: coming into the year, I would have put him up there.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah with you now?
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: At times yeah, he's no.
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: Not at times.
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: Well, it's hard because I was disappointed with the production yesterday.
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: But if you go look at if you just go
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: look at his pressure.
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I get it. He's played okay. I think he's
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: really good. But he is he okay, he's.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: Borderline top ten Yeah, I mean before the season he
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: was in the top ten in his position.
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: After the season, he's borderline.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: And remember he listens to this. He heard the game
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: wreckers stuff last year and turned it up a notch.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Down the stretch and all that. So he's gonna more
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: bullish than you.
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: Are on Josh him Down.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: I like, I think Josh Allen's a really good football player.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: I'm just the production hasn't been there this year the
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: way I thought it would be, and I think that
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: has something that has to do with the fact I
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: think they they asked him and encourage them to get bigger.
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: I would like to see Josh heines down go back
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: and lose about ten pounds because think he'd gi him
• 58:17
  Speaker 7: a little more speed up the edge.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: Yes, I agree, Okay, Von Walker a top ten defensive
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: end in this league. No is Tyson Campbell a top
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: ten cornerback in this league.
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: I'd have to go through every corner.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: But Pete, No, he's not.
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: I'm second down he is.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, like some sometimes he can
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: get that.
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: You're really freak shit.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: Really Okay, So then basically what you're saying is they
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: have two defensive ends who are top ten and we
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: know that.
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying I'm saying.
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: They can't beat they can't both be top ten players.
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: I didn't say he was Pete.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, So he's a top twenty defensive that maybe.
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, But I guess my point is be with like
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: how I view Trayvon Walker in a four to three
• 59:11
  Speaker 7: in base personnel. If he was your starting left end
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: and then on sub he went to three technique, I
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: think he'd be a dominant player. I could because with
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: his length and power and speed, I think he could
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: learn to rush that three technique.
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: Saying how long have we've been saying that?
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: I think you've give him fits and then first and
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: second down outside he is a pain in the rear
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: end for any tackle or tight end to deal with
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: in the run game.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: The problem is if you put him in on the inside,
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: you don't have anybody on the outside.
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: Well, go get speed guy. I mean there's listen. One
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: of the big issues we talked about the offensive line,
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: the lack of depth. You have two defensive ends who
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: can even play in this league on the whole roster.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know what, you know what this is,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: head and tow it.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: With the fourth pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: the Jacksonville Jaguars select the linebacker.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: But do you know what I'm saying, Pete, if you
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: look at the depth chart.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I get it. Did you see the guy who
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: was up yesterday with it? Where the heck did he
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: come from?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 7: Price squad? Yeah, he didn't do much.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: No, no, he didn't do anything. But okay, but why
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: is he up all of a sudden the rookie draft
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: pick wasn't.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: I think they just wanted to see because the rookie
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: Cole can't. He's not He's not ready, not even close.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: Like we started the season with Josh and Trayvond and
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: our backups were Miles Cole and Eric Armstead, two guys
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: who can't play defensive end this league. It's been proven.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: I knew going in.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: Well, one of them hasn't played defensive end very well,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: and he didn't play inside very well when he went
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: in there yesterday.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, let's be real. The roster building of
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: the defense has been horrendous. I mean yes, I mean,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: let's be real about it.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: You drafted, you traded up to get the linebacker that
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: you now say can't play the linebacker position you wanted
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: them to play. You signed a Lua Khan and paid
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: him thinking that you were gonna have him for two
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: years because you drafted those two one you traded up
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: for in Muma who doesn't play at all, and now
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: you're playing. You had to pay him again to keep them.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: Then you draft benrel Miller in the fourth round. He
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: ends up flashing as a run thumper, so now he's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: on the field, and yet you have all.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 11: Those guys at that one position and it's filling any
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 11: damn good. Then you don't use the assets at spots
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 11: where you needed to use the assets. You went and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 11: spent money on two free agents, on three free agents.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: On defense, has Savage been good average at best.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: So basically the roster building process on the defensive side
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: of the ball has been horrible. And it's compounded by
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: the fact that they're not coached very well.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they ended up changing coordinators last year. The whole
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: they've had a change and all that in the whole
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: middle of the process too.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: Well that and that's why they're bad. I mean, this
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: is a bad, bad, bad, bad defense. There's reasons for that.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: But it all starts. You say it all the time, Tony.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: It always starts with the players.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: You have it, keeping it real, presented by nobody, but
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: it should be presented by Pete and Tony. That's what
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: it's presented by. Back in a moment fanatics fan questions,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: and boy did we have some today? We hadn't some
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: most every week after a game like yesterday, it's Jaguars
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to dive into the weeds in that
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: one a little bit more, you know.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: And and and really because of where.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: It was on the field, it's not a not a
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: play that was gonna hurt you as much because then
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: you still had a third down play. We end up
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: kicking the field goal there got three points. But you know,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: sometimes just don't get caught up in the emotion of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: the game sometimes and uh, you know, possibly throw it
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: away or whatever, find a find a guy.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: But it didn't hurt us in that situation.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: You know, which was which is okay?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: The other one early on, you know.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: There was a penalty in the end zone when he
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: took the long long sackle on that one. Obviously saw
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: the flag thrown there, so that one was nullified. But
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: but you know, just just the awareness of the situation.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson today discussing the mac Jones sack
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: when they had second in goal just outside the five.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: He rolls right outside the numbers and then the steps
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: out of bounds and doesn't throw it away. He comes
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: third and goal from about the eleven. From there they
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: have to settle for a field goal and welcome back.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: It's Jaguars happy hours, Ap Shatwick, Tony Boselli and Pete
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: Prisco and football one on one.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 7: Matt, can I go ahead? I just I disagree with
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 7: Doug on his description. It didn't hurt them. So you're
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 7: saying third and twelve, third and goal from the twelve
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: is the same as third and goal from the five
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: and a half.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: And what is he doing any quarterback?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: It's an inexcusable play from an NFL quarterback. In my opinion,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: it almost made it.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: Play again because if I remember correctly, was there that
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: much pressure on him? I think he left like a
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: relatively clean pocket, which he did all day.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: By the way, why is he leaving there?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: There's no reason to leave.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: There's no reason to leave. He did that all day,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: you know. And Tony, but.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: Pete, before we go under the clean pocket and him leaving,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: do you am I wrong about.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: The year twelve is different than third and five? It
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: hurt him? Yeah?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 7: I mean I didn't understand and listen. In fairness to Doug,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: Doug could just be protecting his backup quarterback, which I get.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: And sometimes as a coach you say stuff to protect
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: your players from the podium and I'm hoping that.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: It makes you look like an idiot by saying it.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: Well, sometimes you do, Pete, you know, But I disagree.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: I mean, but if that's what he's doing, that's fine.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: I can still disagree with the comment because as long
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: as I've been playing football, third and five is much
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: different than third and twelve.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: And what did they get on the on the check down?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: The ETN on the next place?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: They got back to the five, didn't they They got
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: back to the five, so they got they run the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: same play and a touchdown.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: I mean, it would have played it differently, but you get.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: So there you have it. I almost made it look
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: like he was trying to get hit on the line
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: or something. Maybe get a late hit flat. I don't
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: know who knows.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: We're thinking throwing.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: Throw it at a bounds you're outside, just throw it
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: out a bound. Yeah, I mean, but here here's the
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: other thing.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: He left the clean pocket there and he did that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: a couple different times on Sunday. There are games where
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: you watch and you look at a quarterbacks numbers and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: you go, hey, pretty good.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: Numbers, look pretty good, And.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: Then you go back and watch the tape and you go, no, okay,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: he had the screen, he had the bubble screen or
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: fourteen of them or whatever.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: He ran.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: And he held the ball at times, and he's and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: he left clean pockets, and it just it wasn't. The
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: numbers were better than the quarterback play.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: Let's just put it at that.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: He threw the ball forty six times in the game.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: Would you agree with me, though, Tony, after watching the tape.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought he anyway. I thought he missed some
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 7: key guys that were wide open late in the game
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: that would have changed the outcome.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: I mean there were plays where he and he has
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: a tendency to do this where he doesn't put the ball.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: And play well, I didn't play it just it wasn't.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: It wasn't very By the way, you guys do remember
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: the four straight It was left.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: It's like army football left right, left, right.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: It was like a bubble street to the left bubbles
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: me to the right, bubbles meaning the left bubbles to
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: the right.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 7: I was okay with it because they were getting about
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: four or five yards.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: I knew you would say that when I said it.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: That's why I know they worked.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: But come on, let's get we can you get a
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: little bit more creativity in it?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 7: I thought, you know, I have no problem with how
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 7: they called the game yesterday. There were plays to be made.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: I mean, if if I was to being critical in anything,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 7: I thought they could have run the ball more because
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 7: they were having they were being they were effective in it.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 7: But I had no issues with the play coming. I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 7: thought there was plays to be there. I mean, they
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 7: moved it. They scored, so.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: There was there was you know what there wasn't. There
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: wasn't the Oh my god, they just ran that play
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: on Sunday, you know what I mean, Like they usually
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: have one where I pick it out and I go,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: what the hell is that?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: They didn't have double reverse.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: I thought the throwback Touverne was a great, well designed.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: Play, designed, well designed play, and he's probably I don't
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: know what he was doing there. If he was waiting
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: for the linemen to blo he could have cut off
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: his butt there and maybe got more, maybe even scored,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: like right, not there, right, I guess that guy would
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: have got him anyway.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I thought I had no issues with it.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: No, that was a well designed play. I like that play.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: The screen pass to uh et N was well designed.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 7: What did you think about that penalty? And Brian Thomas Junior.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: In terms of what he did on that play, I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: thought it was.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was very tick attack. I mean you could
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: have called that either way, but it was ticky tack.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: But that play was designed well because they called him
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: in a blitz.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought, I know, she's the way the way.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: No, the game was not then, the game was not
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: poorly called. I just I just like to see more
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: pre snap stuff going on.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean. They line up and they're here, here, here,
• 1:09:13
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  Speaker 5: Right, So that guy was happy with the outcome. He's
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  Speaker 3: The last two years hasn't been like this though. They
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: were rallied two years ago in December and on the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: last day of the season won the division. They crumbled
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: in the last month last year, but on the last
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: day of the season lost the division. Hasn't been like
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: this in about three years, I guess.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: But by the way, doesn't it doesn't it feel like
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: that Chargers playoff victory was about eight.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Years It's unbelievable, right, and he threw four picks of
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: that game.
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  Speaker 7: By the way, Well, that's the problem that needs to change.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 7: You can't. You can't you know, find magic every four years.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: No, And that's usually when you draft a quarterback.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: Where they drafted a quarterback, Usually that quarterback gives you
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: the sustainable success to hang around Tony.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: That's usually why you're drafting that guy there.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: And then, and that's why I go back to my
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: comment you got to look at the whole I mean,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: I think, and you know, I'm not even commenting because
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: I have no idea on what Sean will do at
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 7: the end of the year. That's you know, he'll make
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 7: that decision. But I do I do believe you've gotta
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 7: you gotta step back and look at the whole thing
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: because and we've talked about this a few weeks ago
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 7: on the show. I mean, in so many ways as
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 7: an owner, you look what SHOT's done. He's invested. It's
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 7: not like he's holding the purse strings tight. He invests
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: in facilities, invests in players. I mean, it gives them.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this isn't a cheap organization.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: And so you got it like something's not working.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: M we just went through the roster. You can figure
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: out what's not working. I mean for the most talented
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: team in the history of this organization.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: They had, but that's not to ten guys maybe on
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: the whole roster in the entire league.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: We're not going to reltigate that because we know it's not.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: We're not relitigating. And I'm just saying what they what
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: what the thought process was.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: But okay, it was said, I understand that, but we
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: said it from you and I talked about this on
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 7: the show from the beginning. Neither of us thought that.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: No, neither one of us thought that.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: JP didn't think that's somebody in that building thought that,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: and it ain't true, but never is true.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: Next question from x at Jordan FCCFC Wild on Earth
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: that we signed Eric Armstead at defensive end yesterday. No
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: stats on the defensive side. He played twenty two snaps
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: in the game, thirty eight percent defense.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: I feel like we picked this up because I don't
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 7: have a good answer, So I'm nothing to say on
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: this because I have.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: No idea why you signed to play defensive end.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: I mean he would he would have been playing three
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: technique for me the entire season or else he ain't
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: playing there.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: Well, and I'll say this, I think you gotta look
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: at this next year because I don't know his exact
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 7: contract situation, but we gave him a bunch of money,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 7: as my guess is that he's gonna be on this
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: roster next year.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: I got it right here, Tony, I've got it right here.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: Next year. Twenty four million dead cap, seventy seven point
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: four cap hit next year, going anywhere.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 7: But I mean it was me off season, sit down,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 7: talk to talk to Eric and say Eric, next year
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: you're playing three technique and you're gonna be a sub
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 7: three technique player and you're gonna that's what you do.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 7: So let's get ready.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: The question is who's going to be doing a talking
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: to I'm.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 7: Not gonna be I mean, you know, we don't know
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 7: right now, so I'm assuming, like, because that's all we know,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 7: it's gonna be Trent and Dug, so they need to
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 7: talk to him.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: I don't say that too loudly because the fans will
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: start picketing outside that stadium.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 7: I'm just telling you that's who are GM and head
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 7: coaches right now.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: I get it. But defensive end, no, was he a
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: good signing? No?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Next question at j VIL Jaguars. What continues to cause
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: the secondary miscues?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: Not sure.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I've seen so many in one season, especially during critical
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: drives that could win a game.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 7: Well, we talked you at the beginning. I mean it's
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: it's some combination of coaching and players because it's it's systemic.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 7: I think you can say it's systemic because it keeps
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 7: on happening, but it.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: Keeps happening with different players and that's that's where it
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: becomes a coaching issue.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: One guy that was doing it over and over and
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: over and.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: Over again, it wouldn't be a coaching issue. It would
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: be that guy issue. But it's everybody, and it's that
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: makes it a coaching issue.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: That's the proper use of systemic. Tony. I'm proud of you.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: You've improved your vocabulary over the last couple of months.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: When we had this discussion earlier about systematic or systemic,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: you've corrected it and I appreciate you got better. You
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: looked at the tape, you got better. Next questions at no.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: More busts than his secondary that's sim I am sheer
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: at thirteen.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: What do you guys think the wide receiver room will
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: look like next season? Also, Thomas is awesome as he.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: Is well again and he signed I don't know what
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 7: the gave Davis contract is.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: You want me to look at up?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: I got it right here too.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 7: It has not worked out this year, but you know
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 7: it wasn't getting a lot of production and then he
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 7: got hurt. It's back to back years at Christian Kirk
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 7: has missed significant time again. You're gonna have to make
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 7: a decision what you did there, and again I'll go
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 7: to what the cap issue is and and how you
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 7: you know what the plan is for that player moving forward.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: By the way, gave Davis dead cap next year twenty
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: point three million caphead of six point seven, So.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 7: Gave Davis will be in the room next year.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: If they should be hopeful that it's less of them game.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: Wow, Bryan Thomas will be there, Parker Washington will be there.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 7: I think those are the three that you know will
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 7: be there.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: Got that cap? That dead cap is twenty million dollars.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 7: On what's Christian's number?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: They gave him thirty nine million dollars.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: They did, They certainly did.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: I mean you could do a.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: You could do him one of those PowerPoint presentations on
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: how not do come.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 11: On him him him him, Okay, we get that.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: Mean my god, Christian Kirk. To answer your question, Tony,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: this is like the evil Gritch laugh is back.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: Well because I seem mis sell he has his.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, next year, Christian Kirk has a thirteen point five
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: million dollar dead cap twenty four point recap.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: Hit, so he ain't going anywhere either.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 7: No, he has a twenty four million cap hit. If
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: he's on the team thirteen. If he's gone, it's.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: Dead cap thirteen, So it's thirteen to send him packing.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: You save eleven if he's not on the on the.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: Team on cap on his cap pit or no?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 7: Yes?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 6: Is it? Yes? You read that? I thought he read
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: it differently. He's gone. He's gone.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: They were going to try and get rid of him
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: if he hadn't gotten hurt this year for the trade deadline.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: But again, so what's the receiver room look like? Overpaid
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: Gabe Davis who doesn't run very well, Brian Thomas Washington
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: will be won.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: They need more.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 7: Well, but I mean, I think what you got to
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 7: hope for Gave Davis is you get the Gave Davis
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: that we saw in Buffalo. It didn't work out this
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: year for whatever reason. We don't know why. You didn't
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: have the production. It was not I'm sure.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 6: He hasn't had the production since that.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: The guy that we saw in that playoff game against
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: the Chiefs has never really materialized.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 7: His high water mark for catches was forty eight coming
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 7: into this year, and.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: JP, what's his right up? What's his yards per catch?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: In his career too? Because he always was a bit
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: even though he doesn't run that well. He had a
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: big play a reputation.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: You know, right, and Gabe Davis in his career yards
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: per catch we're looking at Oh gosh, hang on, I'll
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: find it in a second. We all got sixteen point two,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: sixteen point two.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's good, and I mean that's really good.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: But what like, what are the years like? Does it
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: get does it get less.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: As twenty twenty, seventeen point one, twenty twenty one, fifteen
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: point seven, twenty twenty two, seventeen point four, twenty twenty three,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: sixteen point six, this year twelve point zero.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: And there's a red flag.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: That's a red flag when a guy is a receiver
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: and you go back and look at history of the receivers,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: when their yards for catch and you're that kind of
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: guy start going down, that usually is very concerning.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's just went down this year. He's only
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 7: twenty five years old. So to write off game, I
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: think it's unfair to write off Gabe.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: I'm not writing them off. I'm just saying that if
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: the Gabe Davis you saw.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: This year isn't help him, isn't helping much.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: No, I mean, but new offense, new situation, you.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Know, and who knows how injured he really was all year?
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know who knows.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, still like he had a knee. So hopefully this
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 7: knee gets settled, he gets healthy and comes back in
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 7: great shape and you get the Gabe Davis that was
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 7: in Buffalo where he averaged sixteen yards of care.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: I mean when did he have the knee?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 7: He got knee surgery two three weeks ago?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, But when he was was he hurt leading into that?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 7: I thought for some reason, and JP maybe I thought
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 7: there was some injury issue in the off season coming
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 7: into camp for Gabe Davis. I can't remember what it was,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 7: but I swear there was something going on.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: Well, if there was, it certainly impacted him being a
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: guy that had.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: Any juice because he played all year. When he was
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: playing that he didn't have any juice. He didn't look
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: like the same guy, so game looked more like a
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: tight end than he did a wide receiver.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 7: Gave Davis will be here next year, Kirk won't be. Yeah,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 7: I mean you're not have to. I mean let it.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: I mean you gotta, I mean, you gotta look at
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 7: the whole camp issue in its entirety to understand what
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 7: kind of moves you need to make because obviously Trevor's
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 7: number is gonna escalate next year.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, well, you also got you gotta save at
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: least ten to twelve million for the two inside linebackers
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: you're gonna sign.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Wow, geez. Yeah, Davis had another knee apparently in the
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: off season. I don't know if it's the same knee
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: or what, but there was something.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so he had something going on. So maybe that
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 7: impacted all year. So I'm gonna give gave the benefit
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 7: of the doubt that this was just a bad year.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: Came in on, it wasn't a hundred percent. Was trying
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: to fight through it. Finally got his knee fixed. He's
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 7: gonna be healthy going in next year. And you get
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 7: the gave Davis that you know is gonna give you
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 7: forty five to fifty catches at sixteen yards of pop.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 7: That'd be good.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: Let's get one more question then at Carnival Thomas, can
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: Tony Boselli do a backflip? Could he do one? When
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: he was three hundred pounds?
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 7: I did not know.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: No. Let better didn't do his either, he didn't finish.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 7: I could do I used to be able to a
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 7: front flip on a trampoline.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: Petz like the Russian pizza out pets like the Russian
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: judge the Olympic on a trampoline.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 7: I've never gotten remember. I tried to do a backflip
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 7: off a high dot like a diving and I couldn't
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 7: force myself to go backwards. I couldn't flip. He couldn't
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 7: do it, So no, there's no chance.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: And no I and to answer a question, nor could
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: I know it was.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: That's an amazing What he did do is pretty amazing
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: for a guy that big.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 7: It was great with full pads on.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: That's incredible.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: He didn't he didn't hit the dismount though, I mean.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 7: It was close enough, because it's something I can't do.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: No, I can't do it either, God bless him.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: He's uh and we're I didn't like it because you
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: get injured on that right if you really do it.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 7: But he's obviously confident. He clearly didn't have went for it.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome Back into Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings,
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  Speaker 3: JP Shadwick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Priscoe, The Jaguars Fall and
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  Speaker 3: Week fifteen to the New York Jets thirty two, twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: And now we'll go around the National Football League. We'll
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  Speaker 3: go through all the games this week, and then a
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  Speaker 3: little later we'll take a look at the playoff picture
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  Speaker 3: as it stands through Sunday A week fifteen Thursday and
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  Speaker 3: just a really bad ball game Rams over the forty
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  Speaker 3: nine Ers twelve to six. That was on Thursday night.
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  Speaker 3: Cowboys beat the Panthers. I gotta speak to that game
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  Speaker 3: real quar Yeah, Tony.
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  Speaker 7: I'm in this family fantasy league and I was made
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 7: the playoffs two years ago. I won the championship. Last
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 7: year I lost in the finals.
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  Speaker 3: It's great.
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  Speaker 7: This year I'm in the playoffs again. I'm playing my
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 7: father in law and I have Cooper Cupp. I did
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 7: choose between Cooper Cup and Devonte Adams as my starting receivers.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 7: Cooper Cup got zero zero zero zero. DeVante Adams had
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 7: forty two points. I will be exiting the playoffs this weekend.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you will be. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 7: And the worst part is my father in law. I'm
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 7: never gonna hear the end of it.
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  Speaker 6: That's even better.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, it's all about the fantasy these days. Cowboys over
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: the Panthers thirty to fourteen. Is he to survive in Dallas?
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  Speaker 5: I think he is in large part because I think
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: Jerry knows the biggest part of.
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  Speaker 6: The problem is himself.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Mike McCarthy's a good football coach. It takes players.
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  Speaker 6: I mean they don't have many players.
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  Speaker 3: At what point would Jerry ever give that up?
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  Speaker 6: Not until he gets rid of that team.
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  Speaker 3: He ain't get rid of the team. Yeah, yeah, he
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  Speaker 3: ain't going anywhere. Chiefs over the Browns twenty one to seven.
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  Speaker 3: But Pat took my homes with the high ankle spraying Pete.
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  Speaker 5: Would just shut him down to the postseason and risk
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  Speaker 5: losing to the number one seed.
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  Speaker 7: I would I would shut him down for at least
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  Speaker 7: maybe two weeks. So right now they have what a
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  Speaker 7: two game lead, the two game lead on the Bills.
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  Speaker 3: One, that's right, two, But.
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  Speaker 7: The Bills have the tiebreaker because they beat them. They
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  Speaker 7: beat them, so as they have one game and I
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  Speaker 7: don't know what their schedule.
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  Speaker 3: Is right here.
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  Speaker 5: They got three games in ten days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they got the Texans this week, and then they
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  Speaker 3: got the short that's on the short week, that's on Saturday,
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  Speaker 3: then Wednesday, Christmas Day at the Steelers, and then they're
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  Speaker 3: at the Broncos.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's not an easy slate, So I think I
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  Speaker 12: would shut him down until he's He's not gonna be
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  Speaker 12: one hundred percent, but get him as healthy as possible
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  Speaker 12: because you've proven you can go on the road and
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  Speaker 12: win in the playoffs and give them chiefs.
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  Speaker 6: I agree, it's all about the playoffs for them.
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  Speaker 7: You can't you can't win without Patrick mahone.
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  Speaker 5: No, No, it's all about the postseason for them. So
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  Speaker 5: I'm with you. Do you have to shut him down?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: He shut him down?
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  Speaker 6: You go to the wildcard route, Yeah, do you believe?
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  Speaker 6: I mean not the wildcar route, but the.
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  Speaker 3: Road can Wentz steel one of the or two of these,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 6: The Texans are very good. He could win. Wentz could
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  Speaker 6: win that game.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he could beat the Texans for sure.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think he's beating the Steelers without Mahomes, but
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  Speaker 7: they might because t J. Watts was also hurt. And
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 7: the Steelers can't win a football game without TJ. Watt.
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  Speaker 7: That's been proven.
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  Speaker 5: And they had one hundred and sixty three yards of
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  Speaker 5: total offense against the Eagles upside.
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  Speaker 3: And that's It's a low ankle spray for TJ. Watt,
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  Speaker 3: not a high one.
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  Speaker 7: It is, but you got you have to get Patrick
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  Speaker 7: Mahomes healthy, and so a lot of it also depends
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 7: on the severity of the of the high ankle sprain.
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  Speaker 7: I mean two years ago, he got a high ankle
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 7: sprain against US, ended up finishing the game. No, he
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  Speaker 7: didn't fits.
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  Speaker 3: And he came in and then he came back late. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he came back late.
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  Speaker 7: And then he and played the rest of the playoffs
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  Speaker 7: and won the Super Bowl. So the guys obviously, as
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 7: the guys obviously has a high paint tolerance. A few
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: years before that, he dislocated his kneecap, only missed two games,
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  Speaker 7: I believe.
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  Speaker 6: So did you see what they do at offensive line.
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  Speaker 5: Yesterday you got to put Tuny outside and he was
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  Speaker 5: good at it.
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  Speaker 7: Well, they did that two weeks ago in the second half.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's done it before. He's done it before too.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 7: And what Tune he does is it's not pretty, but
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 7: he doesn't get beat right away. If he's gonna get beat,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: it's gonna be linked.
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  Speaker 5: He he played tackle of college, so he played there before.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Texans over the Dolphins. Texans are the AFC South
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  Speaker 3: champions two years in a row. The Commanders over the Saints.
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  Speaker 3: The Saints went for two at the end and didn't
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  Speaker 3: get it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean did you see the clock controversy too?
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  Speaker 6: I mean they got an extra play that they probably
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  Speaker 6: should have got.
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  Speaker 3: Ravens over the Giants thirty five to fourteen. Lamar or
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, who's your MVP?
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  Speaker 6: Allen's MVP, but Lamar's right there with him. But they
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  Speaker 6: have five losses. I mean, it's that's a lot of losses.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot of touchdowns though for the quarterback game.
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  Speaker 5: Big game this week against the Steelers, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: For the Ravens, absolutely, that's a Saturday game as well.
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  Speaker 3: Bengals beat the Titans thirty seven twenty seven. The Cardinals
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  Speaker 3: over the Patriots thirty to seventeen.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, everybody in the AFC is happy that
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  Speaker 5: Joe Burrow and Gang ain't getting into playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, starting to get hot, getting hot.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, Will Levis was horrible on Sunday, He's done.
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  Speaker 6: I was wrong, you were wrong.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, I saw it. I almost jumped in on Twitter
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 7: on x Pete when you admitted that. But I'm like,
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going to jump on my buddy.
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  Speaker 6: Oh wait, jump on me. I was wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody else night.
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  Speaker 7: To say I told you you were wrong, and I
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 7: told you last week and you didn't believe me, and
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 7: now you've come to the he makes so many mistakes,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 7: come to the to the light.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, you don't have to jump
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  Speaker 3: on him, because everybody else did. Tony so fine. Broncos
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  Speaker 3: over the Colts thirty one to thirteen. Broncos getting better
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  Speaker 3: as they go too.
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  Speaker 6: But you know what, though, there were some bad things
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: in that.
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  Speaker 5: Vo Nicks has been average at best the last three weeks,
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  Speaker 5: and that's worrisome for me.
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  Speaker 7: Well, not only that that game should have been twenty
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  Speaker 7: to seven seven, and I think it's over. I don't agree.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, he fumbled it going into the end zone.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, which is the point at taking the Just go
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: into the end zone and then drop the ball.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: What the hell are these guys doing.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 7: And go look at the offensive numbers Denver put up.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 7: Denver won that game because the Colts offense turned it
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 7: over five times, They gave up a touchdown, and they
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  Speaker 7: turned it over in their own territory.
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  Speaker 5: They did not look No, Knicks has not looked good
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  Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 7: They did not move the ball against that Colts defense
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  Speaker 7: very well at all.
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  Speaker 3: No, the sound you heard around seven thirty last night
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: was Pete's head's exploding in the fourth quarter when the
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  Speaker 3: Lions decided try an onside kick with twelve minutes to play.
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  Speaker 3: They lost the game forty eight to forty two to
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  Speaker 3: the Bills.
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  Speaker 6: You might as well just concede.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, here's my so, and we talked about this. I
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  Speaker 7: worry and I like Dan Campbell. I think he's done
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 7: a hell of a job to turning that organization around.
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  Speaker 7: They're good there. I still think they're the best team
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  Speaker 7: in the NFL than not. But the before all the
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 7: defensive ENDEA yeah, all right, That's why I meant Pete,
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  Speaker 7: thank you. They're so beat up on defense right now.
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  Speaker 7: But on top of that, we talked about last week.
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  Speaker 7: I'm worried that he's gonna make a call. It's gonna
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  Speaker 7: cost him a game. Now. I don't think they beat
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 7: the Bills anyways, because I don't think they could stop
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 7: Josh Allen. But if you look back at that game,
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  Speaker 7: they score twelve minutes left to make it a ten
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 7: point game, and they did get a stop defensively, and
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  Speaker 7: I believe it was late in the third quarter, so
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 7: they had a little bit of confidence. I just don't
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  Speaker 7: know why you do it at that point. Kick it
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  Speaker 7: deep and see if you can get a stop and
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 7: make it a three point game. Because one thing is
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 7: sure for sure is they weren't stopping the Detroit Lions offense.
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  Speaker 6: But especially when when you think about it, you have
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  Speaker 6: to declare it. Here we go, I'm gonna kick it
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: on side kick. Get ready for it. I mean, come on,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 6: it's just it's just bad football, do you know.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 7: I think they got to rethink in the offseason the
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 7: whole on side kicking rules, because if you're gonna have
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 7: to kick off the way it is now, you have
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 7: stupid to because you take away the surprise on side
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 7: which in that now, in that game, if they would
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 7: have done a surprise on side there, Okay, I could
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 7: that might make.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 5: Sense, right, fed steel possession from a team that's been
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: going up and down the field on you.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, hey, guys, let's come back. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: the slate of games on Sunday in Week fifteen. The
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  Speaker 3: Buccaneers over the Chargers forty to seventeen, and the Bucks
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  Speaker 3: have now won four in a row. They have this year.
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  Speaker 3: Earlier in the season beaten the Lions, and the Eagles,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: and the Commanders, and now the Chargers, and down the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: stretch you got the Cowboys, Panthers and Saints. Pete. Is
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: this team one to watch out for once January?
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: Yes, nobody wants to play them. Nobody will want to
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: play them. And not only that, they're getting healthy and
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: young players are growing up. I'll give you an example.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: Cancy the defensive lineman from Pittsburgh, second year guy, didn't
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: play the beginning of the season. Well, now he's back.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: You put him on the line with Yaya Diabi and
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: Vidavea and they're starting to get after the quarterback. And
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: you know, the secondary has been banged up all year long.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: They finally get their corners back and now the two
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: safeties are down, you know, white Head and Winfield. But
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 5: those guys aren't gonna be down for long, only you know,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: two or three weeks, so by the time the postseason
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 5: rolls around, nobody wants to play them.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 7: Pete who's the offensive coordinator?
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: Because is it Am kne By the way, he's a
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 5: really good.
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  Speaker 7: Coach and because all of a sudden, I'm starting to
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 7: hear his name around as potential head coach in this
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 7: league and very near future.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 6: Well, here's how good head coach. Here's how good a
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 6: coordinator he is.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: He made He's the guy who made Will Levis look
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: good in his junior year at Kentucky.
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  Speaker 3: He did.
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  Speaker 7: How many openings are there going to be this year?
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 7: Take we're not going to talk about We're not gonna
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 7: talk about the Jaguars.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: How many openings are going to be this You got
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: the Bears open already, you have the Saints open already,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: you have the Jets open already. That's three. Then you
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: got the potential for Dallas, although I don't think it's
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: gonna happen.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 7: You would the Raiders move on from Antonio, there's another one.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 7: Because if you think you think that will open up yeah, because.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: I think Brady's gonna get involved in that and try
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: and get one of his cronies in there or something.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: Giants gonna do it, Giants.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: Giants, although the Maras said they weren't going to do it,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: and they'd be going back on what they said publicly,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: which usually they do not do that.
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  Speaker 6: So that that's why I don't know if they'll do.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 7: That anything any other teams out there.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: What about out you hear rumblings about the Bengals. I
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: wouldn't do that.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: No, No, I can't not out West.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: No, I don't think. I think that would be about it.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 7: So that'll be a low number of jobs open this
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 7: year compared to the past seven years, correct, So you
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 7: think four or five?
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: I mean the candidates are out there.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: You know who the candidates are, Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: Liam Kohane.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: Mike Mike Rabel. Yeah, there's there's there's guys out there.
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  Speaker 3: We mentioned the Eagles over the Steelers earlier twenty seven thirteen,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: the Packers over the Seahawks thirty to thirteen. There's your
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: look around the NFL.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: And quick JP.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: Do you see the report that that that the Jaguars
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: actually were strongly considering Matt Eberflus at one point did
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: the interview last.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he was like strongly getting considered.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's so funny? Feet in the world? That evil
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: grinch laugh is back?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean they dodged one there. You think.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: Monday Night Football two for the pace of one. Tonight,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: the four nine Chicago Bears meet the eleven and two
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings, and then the six and seven Atlanta Falcons
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: need the game to stay in the playoff race. They
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: head to Vegas to face the hapless two and eleven Raiders.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: Who you got tonight?
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 6: I think Minnesota waxed the Bears, and I.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 5: Think the Raiders hang around even though they're so under
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: man I don't Kirk Cousins has been.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 6: So bad the last month of the season. I don't
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 6: know who that guy is.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 7: Just for the record, last week I called it. He
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 7: was wrong. He picked the Cowboys, I picked the Bengals.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 7: Just a reminder, Pete, I'm gonna go Falcons.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 6: I mean it took him touching aupun like.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: Former jag at Falcons Vikings, and I don't think either
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: is really that close.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: Do you think the Raiders get backed at home?
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: Huh wow.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: The Falcons team has big problems, though, I don't know.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you guys next week. Pek Prisco, Tony Boselli.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: I'm JP Shattercker. Thanks to Brent Reeber, Joe Fortunado, our
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: entire crew. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.