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Sanctions as a double-edged sword in U.S.-Iran relations · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Okay, Sargent's welcome back.
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  What do you have for an update for us this evening, Monday?
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  Uh as to what's going on in the Middle East.
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  I mean, you know, it's fluid.
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  Every day's another day.
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  You know, I just read last week.
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  Um that the Trump boys, it's just lucky guys, they're like the Pelosi's 1.6 billion contract coming in.
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  Gosh, just amazing.
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  And I'm still selling ice cream.
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  Go ahead, Sargis.
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  If you're selling ice cream, you may make a little bit more money than we are doing today, but uh uh it's just the reality of uh uh of this whole process.
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  No, I mean, look, uh I you know uh as much as uh uh time changes, uh people still stay the same.
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  Uh so it doesn't matter uh when you're looking at uh an issue.
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  I there's uh clay tablets from the Middle East uh that were uh looked at and interpreted, and uh there's an Assyrian king, and he's complaining, and he's saying, because he's talking about the same same uh uh routes that have been used for millennia uh to conduct trade, and he was looking at where the Haber River Valley is, of course, where the Hittites and the Egyptians, even before the Assyrian Empire became an empire, were fighting over.
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  And he said, uh, I've spent more money and time focusing on trying to fix corruption uh than uh I have been able to fix on expanding my borders.
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  And here's a king of a nation, uh, an empire, and he's complaining about he can't even control corruption within his own kingdom.
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  Uh so look, um, I always tell folks it's all about the money, right?
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  Uh the first uh nuclear deal was uh when I was asked, I mean, on the record, I said it was an economic deal to try to save Europe, it had nothing to do about the nuclear issue.
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  But uh right now where we are, I think that uh it's it's what Trump started in the second term.
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  I mean, before Rubio went down to Panama, I actually went down to Panama and I started looking at what the exact uh issues were when it came down to why why are we so much interested in it?
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  And then I realized it's nothing more than a grab on economic side to push the Chinese out.
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  And if people don't know Chinese are now harassing Panamanian ships because they don't like the fact that they were pretty much kicked out of Panama.
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  And uh the most significant thing that happened this week uh was a uh Americ uh was an American flagged tanker that filled up uh in Texas, moved through the Panama Canal, and actually delivered uh um oil to Japan, who now this week has announced the fact that they're not even interested about Article 9 that we had to really impose on them in World War II, and they're actually purchasing drones uh and these are attack drones to use uh combat drones against the Chinese in the future if need be.
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  Um, and the other piece is the fact that UAE said we're no longer gonna stay in OPEC.
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  So Trump literally has broken OPEC.
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  And uh, what's a positive on that is that I think uh is significant.
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  When we put sanctions on the Iran and Iran was operating as it was, it was selling oil basically to the cheapest price to the Chinese.
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  Because let's say, as an example, oil today is running at what 108, maybe let's say it's a hundred dollars a barrel.
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  The Iranis had to take off 20 off of that pricing, and then an additional pricing to where literally they were selling that hundred dollar barrel oil to the Chinese for 20 bucks.
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  But the Chinese were not giving cash back to the Iranians because they were saying, well, you know, their sanctions, what they were giving them was basically cheap uh made uh Chinese goods to keep the economy of uh Iran floating, so at least something's moved through the bazaars of Iran.
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  With UAE now saying I'm done with OPEC because OPEC has been broken, there's a blockade, nothing's moving through here.
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  United States doesn't just control not the Venezuelan oil, we control Argentina, we have our own oil, we have uh complete choked off the oil coming out of the Middle East, 80% of that oil is in our hands.
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  Guess what's gonna ha happen now?
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  China has no choice but to pay uh you know a higher price for that energy.
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  So where in the past, if I was a buyer, I went on Amazon, I said I'm gonna buy a pen and the U.S.
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  manufacturer sending uh selling a pen for a dollar and the Chinese for 10 cents.
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  Guess what?
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  Now they're gonna have to sell it for almost a dollar.
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  And as they're looking at selling it for a dollar, and keep in mind that one thing that we learned from COVID is the supply chain, they have a longer push to get their goods from China into the markets than we do because of the fact that we can go Pacific and Atlantic.
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  What ends up happening?
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  Uh, you have individuals now that are gonna be looking at, well, if I'm buying a pen, and if it's a better-made quality from the U.S., well, am I gonna buy the Chinese pen?
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  Have individuals now that are gonna be looking at well, if I'm buying a pen and if it's a better made quality from the US, why am I gonna buy the Chinese pen?
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  So we've pretty much scuttled their economy by ensuring that they have to pay a maximum price on the on the oil.
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  So we've pretty much scuttled their economy by ensuring that they have to pay a maximum price on the on the oil.
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  The other thing that is important too, also to understand, I think uh Trump kind of uh teach uh uh taught our lessons, and I'm not saying that he taught through this entire process.
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  The other thing that is important too also to understand, I think uh Trump kind of uh teach uh uh taught our lessons, and and I'm not saying that he taught through this entire process.
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  I think some of the stuff he just backed.
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  I think some of the stuff he just backed into.
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  But I think at least he had the understanding of which way to head.
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  You know, we always say in the military, once you take that first step across the uh line of departure, you never know anything can go wrong.
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  One thing that he stumbled into was the reaction that uh Europeans had when it came down to initially what we were looking at uh doing with trying to get some support for them to help us with the blockade of the Middle East.
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  So he's he said, okay, I'll just lift the sanctions on the Russians for them to sell oil.
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  So the Russians now are selling their oil.
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  Um, and I know that initially has been said that they're selling only that 170 million barrels of oil that were stranded at sea, but they're selling more than that.
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  So here you are as Europe.
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  You're giving weapon systems to the Ukrainians to fight the Russians.
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  Then you're buying Russian oil and giving money to the Russians to build new weapons to destroy the weapons that you gave for free to the Ukrainians.
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  And now you're Ukraine.
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  Majority of your territory is conquered by the Russians over four years, those areas that are important to you to sustain yourself as a state, you know, nation.
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  The rest of the stuff that you have from your minerals to your whatever food production, agriculture you had, you mortgaged for a span of 50 years to other nations and uh and companies.
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  And uh the unfortunate piece for that is you have almost five million people internally that are displaced, and another six million people that are refugees outside of your country, and they're most likely not coming back.
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  If they do come back, majority of them are uh women who left their husbands were killed in combat operations, they're probably gonna marry somebody else.
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  Um they're probably marrying uh all these Polish men there who are divorcing their wives and marry the younger Ukrainian who are gonna come back in the future and establish their companies there.
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  The poor the Ukrainians are gonna suffer the consequences of what oligarchs do in the Europe.
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  They could care less if their country is burning down as long as they're gonna get a benefit.
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  So if it's okay for them to make money while they give weapon systems to the Ukrainians, they're doing very well, Sarge.
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  Wait a minute, they're doing very well.
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  These Ukrainian oligarchs, you know, they got homes all around the globe, they got the uh the exotic cars.
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  You see them in Monaco, you see them in Italy, you see them in France.
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  I mean, oligarchs, whether it's our oligarchs or theirs.
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  See, this is the thing that I don't get.
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  We have oligarchs too.
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  We have technical oligarchs, yeah.
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  We have American oligarchs.
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  Yep.
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  We have the American congressional oligarchs, they're called senators and how and congressmen.
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  You know, they go in there with 98 cents, you maybe a dollar fifty, and uh a couple of years they're worth 12 million dollars.
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  You say, What do they do to get that 12 million dollars?
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  We know what they did.
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  They had inside information, it's totally corrupt, but uh it's legal for them.
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  You know, they get the golden parachute.
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  So when when I see when I hear these guys like Eric Bowling and Steve Bannon and these other schmucklers, you know, on the uh podcast and and YouTube.
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  Just the other day I saw Bannon and Bolin on X, you know, and Bolin was you know a smart guy one time, you know, when we was on Fox, and he would say, uh, you know, he says, Well, you know, these these uh these oligarchs, these Russian oligarchs, these Ukrainian wait a minute, hey bowling.
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  Did you open your eyes?
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  I thought you two guys were supposed to be some kind of smart guys.
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  What do you think we got here?
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  I mean, historically we've done this, Mike.
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  If you look at the history of it all, I mean Panama should that I brought it all the way back.
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  You go all the way back to Rockefellers.
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  Panama was established by a lawyer, a lawyer cut up the deal for Panama, which became a country that we supported, almost went to war, you know, with our southern uh neighbors.
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  Why?
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  Because uh it was important to control that choke point.
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  So and we did.
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  So Panama itself was a construction of a law firm.
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  If people get a chance to read it, it's absolutely amazing how one person that's really when the the uh you could see the emergence of lobby groups uh affecting um uh Congress.
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  And uh it's fascinating if you read how Panama came along.
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  So you don't even know where lobby came from, right?
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  Sarge, okay.
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  The Willard Hotel, which is one of the oldest hotels in Washington, right?
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  Um, it all started there during the time of General Grant.
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  They would be in the lobby waiting to see the president or one of his people, you know, cabinet, and that's where the term lobby came from.
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  You know, it was right in the lobby of the the Willard.
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  I stated many times.
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  So I mean, we have if we took it lobbying out and special interest out, okay, this country would run a lot better.
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  Like I say, you know, the white mafia, and I don't say it's just be well, mostly in American uh parlance, it's always Italians, but there's Jews and everybody else in the mafia.
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  But the the real mafia is in Washington, DC.
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  And who are the capos?
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  Who are the lieutenants?
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  You got the mafia on the hill, and the capos and the lieutenants are the lobby shops, the lawyers, the think tanks.
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  You know, they bring in the money, they bring in the money to get them re-elected.
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  You know, I I used to always say to myself, you know, if the mafia really these guys were good, some of these mob guys with they had brains like the Lansky and these guys that made Vegas, you know.
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  If they were smart, they would have did a year in college, community college, two years maybe at the max, came down to become congressmen.
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  It's legal to steal, it's legal to shake down.
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  We shake down, and you notice Sargis and Michael.
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  We we shake down all these countries.
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  You want to talk to us?
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  Japan has three lobby shops, one political, one military.
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  You know, everybody's got to have a specialty.
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  And who are the lobby shops?
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  They're former congressmen, their former senators, and you know, former staffers.
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  And they create these things and they make the problem so that you get there, right?
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  And then you got to pay.
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  But you know, they they yeah, they use the same terrain.
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  Like that's why I brought up the whole con a whole idea initially of uh the Syrian king uh, you know, complaining.
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  We're good, you know, assurance celebrated 6,776 years uh existence uh this year, uh April 1st is uh on the old calendars when the new year starts.
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  But where did they celebrate it?
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  Are you in Syria?
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  No, here, actually, globally, everywhere that the community is in diagnostic.
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  Was there was there a party in Washington that I missed?
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  That I missed.
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  No, that was there was no party of Washington.
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  There was no party in Washington.
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  But I'm not saying they they're using the same communication lines, same logistical lines.
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  But I'm on saying they they're using the same communication lines, same logistical lines.
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  Iran where it's just geographically is important.
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  Iran, where it's cis geographically is important.
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  Guess what?
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  Guess what?
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  We used to have the Silk Road.
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  We used to have the Silk Road.
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  If we have a contract with Iran in the long term and we settle a new leader, you know, we agree with uh whoever is gonna be the leadership now.
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  If we have a contract with Iran in the long term and we settle a new leader, you know, we agree with uh whoever is going to be the leadership now.
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  Guess what?
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  Guess what?
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  Our AI uh facilities that we had started to build in uh Saudi, we're gonna start building those also at the same time in Iran.
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  Our AI uh facilities that we had started to build in uh Saudi, we're gonna start building those also at the same time in Iran.
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  Why is
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  Why is important?
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  Because uh the same communication lines, say five uh fiber optic lines are gonna be running, are gonna be around through those same uh, you know, so the old Silk Road.
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  We'll continue in the conversation about the Middle East.
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  Mike, what's your position on this?
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  What are you thinking?
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  Well, I you know, I I'm kind of used to monetary corruption and and things like that.
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  So that doesn't distract me as much as uh this idiot war does.
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  Uh I I'm not sure.
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  I first of all, I always say that this is the worst media coverage of any war I've seen in my lifetime.
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  Yeah.
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  You can't tell who's telling the truth and who's not and who's winning and who's losing.
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  The only thing that looks sure is the Israelis are getting chopped up.
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  And uh that's that would be a good thing if it was the end of them.
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  But what is gonna what's gonna happen is we're gonna either start taking uh refugees out of there, or we're gonna pay for all of the damage that was done during the war and rebuild their country again.
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  So I don't know if there's a win side on this for us.
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  Uh you know, it's it's it's and the other thing that and no one's talking about it, but could we have really been received like this by the Iranians if we knew what their capabilities were?
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  I guess that's a question for you, Sarge.
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  But it seems to me there must have been some at least of an intelligence failure here.
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  Uh well, you know, like uh there they're always gonna be uh intelligence issues, right?
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  And um uh look, I I mean I I go back to the Ukraine war, you know, and uh all the generals were saying, oh, uh Ukraine's gonna go down in uh a couple of days and four years later, uh, but those generals are still being promoted, they're still gonna have a position and advisory capacity.
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  Ukraine's going to go down in a couple of days and four years later.
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  But those generals are still being promoted.
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  They're still going to have a position and advisory capacity.
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  I mean, eventually you're gonna have to say somebody has to be held accountable for just failures, you know, and in and decision making.
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  I mean, eventually you're going to have to say somebody has to be held accountable for just failures, you know, and in decision making.
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  I mean, look at what we've done with in the war, okay?
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  I mean, look at what we've done with in the war, okay.
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  Uh I mean, when you have the U.S.
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  Uh I mean, when you have the U.S.
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  side saying, well, we got the Iranian drones over launch against us, re-redesigned them and you know, uh use them to attack Iran itself, uh, and you know, the press, as you were saying, says, well, that's a victory.
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  side saying, Well, we got the Iranian drones over launch against us, we redesign them and you know, uh, use them to attack your.
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  No, that's a loss.
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  The fact that you had to like take a design from your adversary.
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  Thank you, Sargas.
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  Thank you.
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  And and uh upgrade it and use it against them, says you had no concept of how to use drone warfare in the long term.
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  While you're spending the water, you know, down the weapon system that makes no sense.
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  That's why we should have never shut down Radio Shack.
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  We would have did that before them.
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  No, I mean, I mean, it's just I mean, so you're gonna have these issues.
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  But I think in the long term, if you look at what he what the vision was, I mean, here the problem you have right now in Iran.
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  The war on on the on the battlefield side is is done.
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  I mean, we've uh send new supersonic uh or hypersonic missiles uh to the region, but uh what are we gonna use a foreign capacity?
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  We'll see.
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  The problem is that the the bazaar of Iran, which is 20 million strong, and I'm talking about just uh 20 million in multi-age males, okay, strong that is controlled by the IRGC.
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  Uh Israel itself, uh, if you look at the 200 uh 24 statistics is maybe 10 million, and we're talking about uh anywhere from two year olds to 90-year-olds.
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  And we're talking about you know the bazaar of Iran being almost 20 million strong, which has tentacles everywhere, all over the globe.
• 22:56
  So this is where the negotiation is, right?
• 22:59
  Within that bazaar.
• 23:00
  The issue is that the ones that are really on the hard line side, they know that, well, if we uh give up, guess what's gonna happen?
• 23:09
  We're probably gonna end up dead uh at the hands of our own people, and if we continue to allow Iran to suffer as it is now, I mean, we're talking about 500 million dollars daily.
• 23:20
  Uh, it's probably gonna collapse where the people are going to take to the street.
• 23:23
  And I think the one army that you have from a military planning perspective would be that the people finally are we're gonna take to the streets.
• 23:32
  Then the those people will give a backbone to the actual Iranian army, which is separate from uh what the IRGC is that controls the country, and then you'll probably see, as we're seeing now, the infighting between the different factions of the IRGC and whoever comes along on the table and decides to finally sign that agreement is gonna be a multi-trillionaire, not a multi-based.
• 23:55
  Okay, that's a great point.
• 23:56
  Sargent, so I want to interrupt you a minute.
• 23:58
  We spoke about that the other night on the phone, you and I.
• 24:00
  Mike, this is a very good point.
• 24:02
  I didn't think of this.
• 24:03
  You know, somebody's gonna have to come to the table, they're gonna figure it out, and eventually they're gonna want to make the deal, like he says, whoever signs.
• 24:12
  Forget about just the wealth that they're gonna be super wealthy, okay?
• 24:15
  And we'll probably have six Trump tower hotels there.
• 24:18
  But the point is he makes a very good point.
• 24:21
  You got you got a certain age males, they're losing X amount of money, eventually either they keep going at it with us or they come to the table.
• 24:30
  And this OPEC thing is very interesting, guys.
• 24:33
  You know, with the UAE.
• 24:35
  Now, I see a lot of this stuff on social media.
• 24:38
  The UAE's not our friend, the Arabs not our ally.
• 24:41
  You know, again, there's a little bit, Sargis, maybe you could expand on this because you know better.
• 24:46
  There's a little bit of big animosity going on with between the Saudis and the UAE, as you know, and now by leaving OPEC, what does that do for us?
• 24:54
  Well, well, UAE is not gonna do anything without the U.S., you know, uh giving it his nod to do it.
• 25:01
  Um the the breaking of OPEC is important if you're trying to reset the global energy markets and how it works.
• 25:08
  Now those ships that are coming to the U.S.
• 25:11
  and grabbing U.S.
• 25:12
  oil and sending it to Asia, um, that that pattern is not gonna change even after hostilities are over.
• 25:19
  Because if you could break, if you could break OPEC, which now you say is useless anyway, you're not doing anything, then what you've done, you've indirectly managed control of the Middle East, regardless, even if the U.S.
• 25:33
  leaves that region.
• 25:34
  Because if OPEC stayed in place, China could play OPEC, Israel and Saudi Arabia can use it to their advantage in the long term, you know, for uh a stronger control of the region.
• 25:46
  And if you look at even today, if you ask the Israelis, you say what's the biggest lesson learned since October 7th, they're gonna say we need to be independent from a military perspective, uh, which means that you have to be the major arms distributor and seller in the region to include to Europe and the long term, and then you have to be able to control the region from a resourcing perspective when it comes to future tech.
• 26:10
  But if you break the ability of OPEC, then neither Israel can use OPEC to its advantage or in this case Saudi Arabia in the long term, regardless of what the agreements are within Abraham's Accord, it still gives in America a control of the region, but only through companies and if need be, those companies can always pick up and shift.
• 26:32
  Uh, but once you plant a flag somewhere, and Mike, you know this, it's easy to raise a flag, a U.S.
• 26:38
  flag on a piece of territory.
• 26:39
  It's very difficult to bring it down.
• 26:41
  So if the U.S.
• 26:42
  is gonna have any type of a pivot out of the Middle East, we might as well try to control it from a perspective of maybe a new structure when it comes to global uh um economy.
• 26:54
  And if uh if that global economy is controlled central from the US uh with uh energy being in the under our control to include the waterways, keep in mind uh when I was looking at Burma years ago, uh before the uh General Halang took over Burma, uh I I pointed out or the actual white paper gave it to the National Security Council of the fact that there's a Chinese conglomerate that is pushing the entire issue of what is happening there to build a deep water port to bypass our control of the waterways throughout Asia.
• 27:28
  Uh and I would not be surprised if Trump goes to the table um when he's meeting Meiji and starts putting a little bit more pressure, especially through uh what we I thought we had lost, and you know this better than me.
• 27:41
  I thought we were losing uh in Thailand because uh I would go to Thailand and I'm looking at Thailand and they're you know have you know uh Chinese uh uh cartoons for their young kids and they were starting to shift.
• 27:54
  Well, yeah, it's it's a big it's a big hospitality issue with them too.
• 27:57
  Chinese love to go to Thailand.
• 27:59
  It's good that we got into the water.
• 28:00
  We got into the city.
• 28:00
  But there's gonna be agreements I think he's gonna reach with the Thai government, and those uh those are again to to block off whatever money that was uh sunk cost by the Chinese and building these water ports to bypass us so we can control the energy, we could control the waterways, in this case we could control China in the long term.
• 28:00
  But there's going to be agreements, I think he's going to reach with the Thai government.
• 28:04
  And those uh those are again to block off whatever money that was uh sunk cost by the Chinese and building these water ports to bypass us so we can control the energy.
• 28:14
  We could control the waterways.
• 28:16
  In this case, we could control China in the long term.
• 28:18
  Well, they're trying to do the Laocean Mekong Delta thing going down that way.
• 28:18
  Well, they're trying to do the Laoce and Mekong Delta thing going down that way.
• 28:22
  But the good news is Indonesia's in our in our pocket pretty much on our side on this with you know going.
• 28:22
  But the good news is Indonesia's in our in our pocket, pretty much on our side on this with you know, going with the Straits of Malacca.
• 28:31
  So Indonesia is pretty good with the Trump administration right now.
• 28:36
  But again, in Burma, uh, some of the Burmese, you know, the uh the Burmese government, and I I would guess rebels too, are blowing up some of the Chinese stuff going on there.
• 28:47
  So listen, the Burmese don't want the Chinese in there 100% either.
• 28:52
  Okay.
• 28:52
  So it's always been they put money in and they lose and they put money in and they lose.
• 28:57
  Uh Mike, the oligarchs didn't want to see the CCP broken up because the oligarch likes to work with one person.
• 29:04
  But I think a lot of the Chinese, the actual Chinese, you know, we're talking about Kumatan Chinese would love to see uh the uh beheading of the uh Chinese Communist Party in their in the region, but then the oligarchs like, well, I have to now pay more money to talk to various different characters to be able to push my agenda.
• 29:24
  And I that's right, I think majority of the fight is there's individuals who are not gonna allow their what was their business structure to collapse.
• 29:32
  Uh is uh I don't know if uh the uh Porto's gonna be uh able to do it or not, but um you know he's walked on that path now, and I don't know if there's gonna be ever a reset of a new global order that is gonna be much more uh supportive of an American agenda rather than the um global agenda that exists out there.
• 29:51
  But you know, as you said, these these oligarchs regardless, they'll just change your hats, you know, they'll suddenly become fully they don't have money.
• 30:00
  As long as they can make all the dogs only have one flag, and that's money.
• 30:03
  Go ahead, Mike.
• 30:04
  Yeah, I I guess I'm not as familiar as you guys with certainly with Asia and other things, but I I just can't figure out how we get out of this.
• 30:13
  Uh Iran mess at the moment.
• 30:16
  It seems to me that ultimately he's gonna put troops on the ground in there.
• 30:22
  And uh I'm not sure as good as our troops are that your force of 20 million is going to be quite something to think about.
• 30:33
  Yeah, that was just a bazaar.
• 30:35
  That was just a bazaar.
• 30:36
  I mean, we're talking about 29 million people, Mike.
• 30:39
  So the bazaar of Iran is just 20.
• 30:42
  Those are the guys who are running the uh basically the money.
• 30:45
  Uh imagine the rest of it, but you know, what do we do?
• 30:49
  We what do we do?
• 30:51
  We have a million people in the military, and how many of those are shooters?
• 30:56
  Half?
• 30:56
  Less than half.
• 30:58
  Uh I I don't know.
• 31:00
  Is that enough to make a difference in Iran?
• 31:04
  I I don't I don't think he's looking at it that way.
• 31:07
  I think he's looking at it from a point where the economy of Iran collapses, the people take to the streets, the people over Iran that take to the streets, uh finally force something, whoever we don't care who the leadership is as it comes to the table and signs on the dotted line, and then once they sign on the dollar line, you know, it's uh pretty much okay, that's it.
• 31:27
  It's victory over.
• 31:28
  You guys deal with it.
• 31:30
  Now, you know, during this entire time as we're talking, uh Iranian government has uh arrested uh approximately 4,000, I think, uh, over the past month.
• 31:40
  Uh, and um has executed a number of them.
• 31:43
  But I think uh the the way we're looking at it is what is the long-term use of Iran to counter our near-pure China, and I think that's the only thing that uh he's been looking at.
• 31:56
  You got the finger on the pulse in my opinion.
• 31:58
  Sorge, I think you've got the finger, you know.
• 32:00
  I didn't even think about it until we spoke about it the other night.
• 32:02
  And Mike, I think he's right, because you know, I'm I'm not a Middle East guy, right?
• 32:07
  But I see this as you know, these guys are gonna look for safety, they're gonna say, look at Saddam, look at Gaddafi, you know, where do we wind up if we survive?
• 32:15
  Could we sign on a dotted line?
• 32:16
  And again, it's all about the deal making.
• 32:19
  You know, America America likes good guys and they like bad guys, right?
• 32:23
  So it's a matter of, you know, do we play a bluff?
• 32:26
  We're gonna go in, we're gonna go in with uh troops on the ground, or you know, again, he's moved the red line, he's given extensions.
• 32:33
  So you don't you don't know.
• 32:34
  I mean, you don't know what the play is.
• 32:36
  I'd like to see less bloodshed, and uh I'd like to see less money being spent on this, but again, if this all turns the world power, the world order upside down in our favor as America.
• 32:51
  Hey, that's cool with me.
• 32:52
  You know, you're not gonna get rid of China, you're just gonna you're gonna choke point them, Sergeant slow them down.
• 32:57
  You know, they're a major economic superpower.
• 32:59
  You look at what they did in the last 40 years.
• 33:01
  I mean, gosh, that's that's tremendous, you know.
• 33:04
  And they captured the Southeast Asia.
• 33:06
  They got Cambodia in their pocket, they got Lao in their pocket, they spent lots of money in Thailand.
• 33:11
  But again, people have to understand Thais are basically uh descendants of Chinese, the people that are in Thailand today.
• 33:18
  There's probably a handful of real ties over the years from 1600, you know.
• 33:24
  So they're really a lot of descendants over the years since the turn of the last century, which were peddlers and their children uh educated.
• 33:31
  Look at CP, CP, one of the biggest companies in Thailand, they help China grow.
• 33:35
  You know, it's a multi-billion dollar company, CP.
• 33:38
  And there's other big companies that are multi-billion dollars in Thailand.
• 33:41
  So again, not all Thai's like the Chinese presence, but all ties like money, and not all Thais like the Chinese uh tourism business.
• 33:50
  You know, a lot of them are not happy with it, but again, it's money.
• 33:54
  So again, hospitality is money, you know, uh trading is money.
• 33:59
  Thailand's been with us as a group good ally over the years, Sarge.
• 34:03
  But I say in the last 15 years, we lost them in many ways.
• 34:05
  They're not as strong as they used to be.
• 34:08
  You know, when I was there, it was a whole different story.
• 34:10
  You had a 50-50, and I don't think we have a 50-50 anymore.
• 34:13
  You know, since the old king died, things change, you know.
• 34:16
  So and the new king is you know, young generation, he's a boomer.
• 34:20
  Yeah, he's trying to bring him back, he's trying to bring him back to our side, and I think you're gonna see some uh agreements before.
• 34:26
  And uh look, he he just uh just again announced that he's gonna increase the tariffs on Europe again because Europe.
• 34:33
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• 34:34
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• 34:38
  And I had a lot of great friends there, and a lot of them have passed away.
• 34:42
  And you know, it was great to be there.
• 34:43
  You've been there, it's a great country, they're very pro-American, wonderful, they're very hospitable to American.
• 34:49
  Uh the American tourist does very well there.
• 34:51
  You know, it's not a hated tourist, you know, it's not the ugly American.
• 34:55
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• 39:28
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• 39:30
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• 39:31
  Yeah, we were talking just uh before the break about China.
• 39:36
  And I continue to think that the only way to break China or to break the threat of China is to enforce the withdrawal of all American companies from there and all their expertise be embargoed in this country, and to get all 600,000 of those students and whatever else we can out of the country.
• 39:53
  I think we're we're we're fooling ourselves if we can play uh a game with Iran or with somebody else or with the Europeans, especially at the point where we are at this time where most of the world hates us because of this damned war.
• 40:08
  Uh, and other wars, and because of Trump.
• 40:11
  I I think we have a long hole to dig our way out of.
• 40:15
  Uh, maybe it'll work, maybe we can force them into uh into being paupers again without doing that.
• 40:22
  But we are the glue.
• 40:24
  We are the power of the Chinese economy.
• 40:28
  Uh and and I don't know how we get away with or around that uh uh by anything else but uh laying down the law.
• 40:38
  Um, in terms of the Middle East, surgeons, you know way better than I do that there is a long memory in people, and grudges are held for a horribly long time.
• 40:50
  And I think that the defeat of the uh uh of Iran without eliminating most of the IRGC and the other more militant groups of the government leaves us with a handful of problems.
• 41:06
  Whether they still emanate only from Iran or they emanate for other places in the world.
• 41:11
  I I don't know, but it's uh it's the mindset is not going to be oh, that's great that Iran got uh got beaten, but oh look, they pounded the Muslims again and they lost.
• 41:24
  So I don't, you know, I I kind of disagree on on that.
• 41:28
  I think there's more more to this war than uh changing it or ending it at our discretion, unless he just surrenders and not surrenders, but just says so the Navy pull up and get out and get the rest of them out of there.
• 41:44
  What do you uh Sarge?
• 41:45
  What do you think about one question real quick real quick?
• 41:48
  What do you think about this uh MBS relationship with Iran?
• 41:52
  It's not a love story, correct?
• 41:54
  No, I mean the uh the Saudis have nuclear weapons, they purchase them from the Pakistan government, yeah.
• 42:00
  From the Pakistan government.
• 42:02
  They paid cash.
• 42:02
  They pay cash, and those weapons are you know held by the Pakistan government.
• 42:03
  And those weapons are held by the Pakistan government.
• 42:06
  And I've said one thing.
• 42:06
  And I've said one thing, and uh Mike, you're you're you're right.
• 42:08
  And Mike, you're you're right.
• 42:10
  There's nothing you're saying that is uh wrong when it comes to how they hold these grudges.
• 42:10
  There's nothing you're saying that is uh wrong when it comes to how they hold these grudges.
• 42:15
  The battle of Karbala is the reason why we're here anyway, right?
• 42:15
  The battle of Karbala is the reason why we're here anyway, right?
• 42:18
  In 680.
• 42:18
  In 680.
• 42:20
  Uh, and that battle was basically where yes, it uh kills uh uh Ali's uh son um and uh of course where you have the break between the Shia and
• 42:20
  And that battle was basically where yes, it uh kills uh uh Ali's uh son um and uh of course where you have the break between the Shia and the uh and the Sunni.
• 42:31
  Um Iran's enemy had never been the United States or Israel.
• 42:38
  Uh I hate to break this to folks.
• 42:41
  It was always the Sunnis.
• 42:44
  And Iran understood that okay, I'm surrounded by all these Gulf nations are the Sunni, um by Pakistan that is uh, you know, Sunni that has nuclear weapons, and for the Pakistan government, they have their own problems, right?
• 42:59
  Uh the leadership is on the uh uh side of the uh Sunnis, the people in the streets, hearts are with the Iranians.
• 43:07
  If there's ever gonna be a war in the next three years in the region, if this thing really goes south, the the worst case scenario, it would be a war begin being Pakistan and Iran, where Pakistan may use a nuclear weapon um uh in Iranian territory.
• 43:24
  Uh so yet that has to be we have to be mindful of that.
• 43:28
  Um the the problem was I wrote an article who speaks for Islam who should speak for Islam in 2015, um a decade plus ago, and it was how these different groups are jocking to be the lead of Islam, right?
• 43:42
  I mean, we have um one Pope, he's an American Pope now, uh Chicago White Sox fan, like uh I am.
• 43:49
  Um now you may not agree with him.
• 43:52
  Even the president of the United States may not agree with what the Pope says.
• 43:55
  But when this Pope speaks at the UN, uh even though we have various different branches of Christianity, from the perspective of the Muslim world and the rest uh the Jewish world, it's that he speaks on behalf of Christianity overall.
• 44:07
  There's no such there's no such figure in uh in the Islamic world, and Iran believed itself to have emerged as that figure to where it was giving a voice to some of the folks uh that were against uh Israeli policy in the region.
• 44:22
  The difference between what Iran today did and what the Shah used to do, Shah was a friend with uh Israel.
• 44:28
  He used to work with Israel, and initially when he decided to do have a nuclear program, the Israelis even gave him some technical support and advice uh on the process.
• 44:39
  But the Shah was uh uh critical on the world stage with uh Israel's policies at times, both foreign and domestic, but for them it's the same.
• 44:50
  But at the same time, he was able to work with them.
• 44:53
  This group here didn't because they thought that well, you know, we could work through the world communities, and unfortunately, the people that they were always at war with, which were the Sunnis, other fractions of their religion, didn't come to support them.
• 45:06
  Uh I mean it's the reality that this disputing of a major fight between the Sunnis and Shia might be the way we have thought about pulling out of the region.
• 45:18
  And guess who's gonna get most of the blame?
• 45:20
  It's gonna be the state of Israel.
• 45:23
  Uh, even when the uh leadership of Iran were killed in air strikes, US kept on saying we didn't do that strike.
• 45:30
  It was the Israelis that did that strike.
• 45:32
  Uh and Israel is gonna be the main punching bag on this focus of who should the Islamic world hate in the next hundred years, uh, because of the fact that the U.S.
• 45:46
  is gonna basically do you know push that responsibly on them, say, okay, you you're in the region, you want to stay in the region, God bless you.
• 45:54
  We don't want to stay in the region.
• 45:55
  You're gonna have to work with these people, do it economically, and you have to be the strongest capability possible.
• 46:01
  We'll come support you if need be, but really you're gonna be on your own.
• 46:04
  Because once we strike deals with the various different nations in the region for ourselves to include a future Iran, and I said to the Iranians a long time ago, um, you know, when I was asked, I said, you want a nuclear weapon, your biggest nuclear weapon is your economy.
• 46:20
  29 million people who are highly educated because they had nothing else to do but to sit in schools and educate themselves.
• 46:28
  This this powerful nuclear weapon can destroy any type of an agreement that the Israelis and Saudis sign under the Abraham's Accord.
• 46:38
  It would absolutely devastate the Sunni nations.
• 46:41
  So I I think what maybe is a thought process of the US side is that we don't really care anymore, first of all, uh from the Pentagon.
• 46:52
  Uh we're gonna just do what we need to do and get out of there.
• 46:55
  Uh secondary though, we're not gonna take the blame because the blame is gonna be shifted again, always to Israel.
• 47:01
  They're gonna uh ones who have to deal with it.
• 47:04
  And thirdly, uh the issue becomes if we can get to a point where what you mentioned about China, Mike, is probably looking at maybe seven years down the line to where we can have move all the manufacturing back.
• 47:18
  And the biggest uh uh uh person who's gonna have to fight against us in the long term, uh, and I've told Israelis it's gonna be you, because for you to stay and control this piece of property called the Middle East to exist as a nation.
• 47:32
  If today you take all the Jewish people all around the globe and put them in Israel or in the Middle East, they don't have the numbers to be able to control it.
• 47:40
  So the only way you're gonna have to do it, you're gonna have to become the biggest capable nation in cyber and all the other you know uh future tech, which we are planning on controlling for our benefit to defeat our near peer China.
• 47:56
  So six, seven years down the line, to include maybe even five years online, there's gonna be a competition between Israel and the United States.
• 48:03
  And guess what, Israel?
• 48:04
  US is never gonna allow you to be uh the top dog in the region.
• 48:08
  You're always gonna have to.
• 48:08
  Sarge, how weak is Israel now.
• 48:11
  Sarge, since this uh since this uh conflict with Iran, you know better.
• 48:16
  How weak is Israel now?
• 48:18
  Well, they're not in a good place.
• 48:20
  I mean, uh look, they're gonna get blamed for everything that has happened in the region, regardless, even if the US has done it and all American oligarchs have done it.
• 48:29
  Uh it has internal issues.
• 48:31
  I mean, you know, um uh Netanyahu is not a young pup.
• 48:34
  He's dealing with all corruption issues.
• 48:36
  Eventually he's gonna have to uh leave the stage, and uh uh there's gonna have to be a understanding uh by whatever are the various different political organizations that are established that are counter to what initially Netanyahu set up.
• 48:51
  But most of the folks that uh are opposition are individuals who came off of his branch.
• 48:55
  If you're looking at from a football coaching staff, you know, where you say Bill Belichick is a big coach and he has all these other individuals that came off of his branch, most of the opposition is that.
• 49:00
  Coach and he has all these other individuals that came off of his branch, most of the opposition is that.
• 49:05
  I think majority of the Israelis are really kind of that uh, and I'm not the only one who's ever said this.
• 49:05
  I think majority of the Israelis are really kind of that uh and I'm not the only one who's ever said this.
• 49:11
  I've been there for the election.
• 49:11
  I've been there for the election.
• 49:12
  I was literally physically inside of their uh um the state radio uh programming while the uh uh one day elections were taking place.
• 49:12
  I was literally physically inside of their uh um the state radio uh programming while the uh one of the elections were taking place, and they you know, those are ballistic doors.
• 49:21
  And you know, those are ballistic doors.
• 49:23
  I don't even allow people in there, but that was inside.
• 49:23
  I don't even allow people in there, but that was inside.
• 49:26
  Um the reason is being because they don't want somebody to suddenly.
• 49:26
  Um the reason is being because they don't want somebody to suddenly barge in and say something on uh um you know on the air that it was not you know uh caught.
• 49:36
  But uh uh I I think majority I bet you they wouldn't mind a guy barging in and saying we want Hebrew national hot dogs, their kosher yeah, I don't think that was flaw.
• 49:48
  Um but uh I mean uh they're the majority of the younger generation is kind of on that middle to right position, but they realize that for them to survive in that region, um they have to become the number one dog.
• 50:01
  And I don't I'm gonna tell you, I don't think U.S.
• 50:03
  will ever allow them to be independent because it will counter us uh against what we're trying to do globally.
• 50:08
  What a what an angle.
• 50:09
  I never even thought of that.
• 50:10
  Mike, what an angle, huh?
• 50:12
  Well, yeah, and in uh one thing we we've never talked about, and no one's ever talked about it in the uh in the media here in the United States is that when somebody resigns from the the uh leading part of the military's um it's called unit uh 8200, I think, Israelis military intelligence crypto.
• 50:37
  Most of those people, a lot of those people come directly to the United States and either join businesses or start businesses.
• 50:44
  Yes, Silicon Valley.
• 50:45
  Yeah, Silicon Valley, but also in New York City, around the countries, Colonel.
• 50:50
  And you gotta get rid of them.
• 50:53
  Because it's not a matter of us, not like they're embedded.
• 50:57
  Yeah, they're embedded.
• 50:58
  Yeah.
• 50:59
  And they're wealthy.
• 51:01
  And Mike, the problem is you also have the same thing from the Chinese side.
• 51:05
  A lot of them are a lot of our tech companies actually are blood relations to the you know, green gang that are uh is basically Chinese Communist Party.
• 51:16
  And some of our companies that even here compete against each other, they're they're blood relations, the bosses.
• 51:22
  Um, so I don't think you're not gonna get rid of them, but you can control them.
• 51:27
  And the way you control them is basically control them by um, I hate to say through on business opportunities that they have an opportunity to still make money and uh be able to uh sustain this.
• 51:39
  Well, well, Sarge, if you go back in time, turn of the last century again, go down New York Chinatown.
• 51:44
  You had the Tongs, you had the different groups, the Chinatown Mafia, you know, these guys that were running like the Italian mob in the day, right?
• 51:52
  In downtown New York.
• 51:54
  And it's it's different now, it's much more high powered when you say the green gangs, you know.
• 51:59
  Uh and then again, you you got you got the same thing with the Israelis.
• 52:02
  The only the only guys that are really not superstars in all of this arena is the American people, born and raised here.
• 52:09
  You know what I mean?
• 52:10
  It's the farmlands being done by China, you know, the Israelis are doing the one thing, the other guys doing one thing.
• 52:16
  Uh who serves us?
• 52:18
  That's the thing, Mike.
• 52:19
  Who serves the American people?
• 52:20
  I it's a good question, Colonel.
• 52:22
  Maybe you need a civil war to resert things.
• 52:24
  I don't know.
• 52:25
  I hope that's then we can get a Robert E.
• 52:27
  Lee plate back again.
• 52:28
  We could kick out Spamberger and get our Robert E.
• 52:31
  Lee, but you know, Sarge, we had a Robert E.
• 52:33
  Lee plate, license plate you could buy them in uh Virginia.
• 52:36
  I don't know if anybody knows anymore.
• 52:37
  No, no, she stopped it.
• 52:39
  Yeah, she's nuts communists.
• 52:40
  But I don't know if anybody knows this.
• 52:42
  In Virginia, you could get almost any license plate customized.
• 52:48
  If you go on the Virginia DMV, you could see special plates all this stuff.
• 52:52
  One of them happened to be Robin E.
• 52:53
  Lee, a pitch for Robin Lee, because again, the Civil War, he was a Virginian, Appomattox, Arlington, so on, right?
• 53:00
  And then they had Sons of the Confederates, and I think daughters of the American Revolution.
• 53:04
  She stopped all these specialty plates in that like, okay, wait a minute.
• 53:08
  We have, I don't know.
• 53:09
  They do it's the only state, Sarge does 30, 21 to 30 million dollars in specialty plates.
• 53:15
  Anybody that's not selling specialty plates in America, you know, any state, they're losing tons of money.
• 53:20
  People like vanity plates, you know.
• 53:22
  But Robert E.
• 53:23
  Lee was just like, you know, for the people who are like Mike and I, you know, we're Mike, Mike and I, we like the civil war.
• 53:30
  We, you know, I visit Battlefield.
• 53:32
  I've I've I volunteered, you know.
• 53:34
  It's just it's part of our heritage, it's part of our history.
• 53:37
  You're not gonna erase it, you're not gonna get a pencil and erase it, you know what I mean?
• 53:40
  And uh, whatever side you like, and as a kid, we played with these little model uh what do you call it, Mike?
• 53:45
  What are they?
• 53:45
  Plastic things, remember they had the army forts and all that.
• 53:48
  So it's just part of our history.
• 53:50
  It's like you know, Spanish American War and so on and so on, you know, war of 1812.
• 53:55
  But uh these people come in, they want to rip down monuments, but you could have a Martin Luther uh Mont Luther Boulevard in every city in every state, and maybe more cities than one.
• 54:06
  Uh somehow, you know, that eclipses the real history.
• 54:10
  You know, we got to go right down the lane.
• 54:11
  Uh the the problem is, and I um as we're finishing up, uh Mike, just so you know, too.
• 54:17
  Um the the problem is that I was talking to Doug Burton.
• 54:23
  We were talking about uh Africa.
• 54:24
  I did an interview of him on Nigeria a couple of weeks ago.
• 54:29
  But as been brought up uh by him too, and he said, you know, when you're in a civilizational crisis, it becomes very difficult for the people to agree on anything.
• 54:39
  I mean, uh, you know, when we have a Supreme Court justice who couldn't define what a woman was, and uh you have 39 day genders, and people are arguing about that.
• 54:49
  It's very difficult to counter and try to fight the oligarchs that are now running uh businesses for even foreign governments.
• 54:57
  So we'll get there hopefully, but I think we're gonna get there in a slow period uh of time.
• 55:01
  I think it's gonna take away.
• 55:03
  Well, your governor out there in Ohio, your governor out there in Illinois, he took the toilet seats out of that mansion so he could save some property tax.
• 55:11
  What a billionaire he is, huh?
• 55:12
  But down the last two minutes, Michael Shoya, you go for it.
• 55:16
  Go ahead, buddy.
• 55:17
  Well, that's about all I got to say is I I see a long dark future.
• 55:21
  Uh and I I think a lot of it's gonna pivot off whether we use ground troops in in Iran, in Iran, rather.
• 55:29
  And um the other thing I worry about too is that it was very clear to me that we stopped, at least in the intelligence side of things, of caring much about um Sunni uh radicalism and organization and funding after we killed bin Laden.
• 55:47
  And I really wonder if we're we have any real handle on what's going on in the under underneath the the what's obvious in regard to the organization of Sunni terrorists.
• 55:59
  And um I I just see it as a as a devilishly hard thing to do with a president who is not particularly eager to understand um about the much about the enemy except what can be counted in missiles and tanks and things.
• 56:00
  I I I just see it as a as a devilishly hard thing to do with a president who is not particularly eager to understand about the end much about the enemy except what can be counted in missiles and tanks and things.
• 56:16
  All righty.
• 56:16
  All righty, wrap it up.
• 56:17
  Wrap it up.
• 56:17
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• 56:17
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• 56:21
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• 56:31
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• 56:36
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• 56:41
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• 56:45
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• 56:46
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