Latest / Philosophy and Faith / 06 - The Pilgrim's Progress - John Bunyan
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Part two, the third stage. The interpreter then called for
- 0:06Speaker 1: a man servant of his one great Heart, and bid
- 0:10Speaker 1: him take a sword and helmet and shield, and take
- 0:14Speaker 1: these my daughters. Said. He conduct them to the house
- 0:18Speaker 1: called Beautiful, at which place they will rest next. So
- 0:22Speaker 1: he took his weapons and went before them, and the
- 0:25Speaker 1: interpreter said, God speed. Those also that belonged to the
- 0:30Speaker 1: family sent them away with many a good wish. So
- 0:34Speaker 1: they went on their way and sang, this place hath
- 0:37Speaker 1: been our second stage. Here we have heard and seen
- 0:41Speaker 1: those good things that from age to age to others.
- 0:44Speaker 1: He'd have been the dunghill, raker spider. Hen the chicken too,
- 0:50Speaker 1: to me have taught a lesson. Let me then conformed
- 0:54Speaker 1: to it be the butcher garden and the field, the
- 0:58Speaker 1: robin and his bate. Also the rotten tree doth yield
- 1:02Speaker 1: me argument of weight to move me for to watch
- 1:06Speaker 1: and pray, to strive, to be sincere, to take my
- 1:10Speaker 1: cross up day by day and serve the Lord with fear.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Now I saw in my dream that they went on,
- 1:18Speaker 1: and great Heart before them. So they went and came
- 1:21Speaker 1: to the place where Christian's burden fell off his back,
- 1:24Speaker 1: and tumbled into a sepulcher. Here then they made a pause,
- 1:29Speaker 1: and here also they blessed God. Now said Christiana, it
- 1:34Speaker 1: comes to my mind what was said to us at
- 1:37Speaker 1: the gate, to wit that we should have pardon by
- 1:40Speaker 1: word and deed by word, that is, by the promise
- 1:46Speaker 1: by deed, to wit in the way it was obtained.
- 1:50Speaker 1: What the promise is of that? I know something? But
- 1:54Speaker 1: what is it to have pardoned by deed or in
- 1:57Speaker 1: the way that it was obtained? Mister great But I
- 2:00Speaker 1: suppose you know? Wherefore, if you please let us hear
- 2:04Speaker 1: your discourse thereof mister Greatheart, pardon by the deed done
- 2:12Speaker 1: is pardon obtained by someone for another that hath need thereof,
- 2:16Speaker 1: not by the person pardoned, but in the way saith
- 2:20Speaker 1: another in which I have obtained it. So then, to
- 2:24Speaker 1: speak to the question more at large, the pardon that
- 2:28Speaker 1: you and Mercy and these boys have attained was obtained
- 2:32Speaker 1: by another, to wit, by him that let you in
- 2:35Speaker 1: at the gate, And he hath obtained it in this
- 2:38Speaker 1: double way. He hath performed righteousness to cover you, and
- 2:42Speaker 1: spilt his blood to wash you in. Christiana. But if
- 2:48Speaker 1: he parts with his righteousness to us, what will he
- 2:51Speaker 1: have for himself, mister Greatheart, he has more righteousness than
- 2:57Speaker 1: you have need of, or than he need needeth himself. Christiana,
- 3:04Speaker 1: pray make that appear, mister great Heart, with all my heart.
- 3:10Speaker 1: But first I must premise that he of whom we
- 3:13Speaker 1: are now about to speak, is one that has not
- 3:16Speaker 1: his fellow. He has two natures in one person, plain
- 3:20Speaker 1: to be distinguished, impossible to be divided. Unto each of
- 3:25Speaker 1: these natures, a righteousness belongeth, and each righteousness is essential
- 3:30Speaker 1: to that nature, so that one may as easily cause
- 3:33Speaker 1: that nature to be extinct as to separate its justice
- 3:37Speaker 1: or righteousness from it. Of these righteousness, as therefore we
- 3:42Speaker 1: are not made partakers, so as that they, or any
- 3:46Speaker 1: of them, should be put upon us, that we might
- 3:49Speaker 1: be made just and live thereby. Besides these there is
- 3:54Speaker 1: a righteousness which this person has, as these two natures
- 3:58Speaker 1: are joined in one. And this is not the righteousness
- 4:01Speaker 1: of the Godhead as distinguished from the manhood, nor the
- 4:05Speaker 1: righteousness of the manhood as distinguished from the god Head,
- 4:10Speaker 1: but a righteousness which standeth in the union of both natures,
- 4:14Speaker 1: and may properly be called the righteousness that is essential
- 4:18Speaker 1: to his being prepared of God to the capacity of
- 4:21Speaker 1: the mediatory office which he was to be entrusted with.
- 4:26Speaker 1: If he parts with his first righteousness, he parts with
- 4:29Speaker 1: his Godhead. If he parts with his second righteousness, he
- 4:34Speaker 1: parts with the purity of his manhood. If he parts
- 4:38Speaker 1: with his third, he parts with that perfection that capacitates
- 4:43Speaker 1: him to the office of mediation. He has therefore another righteousness,
- 4:49Speaker 1: which standeth in performance or obedience to a revealed will.
- 4:54Speaker 1: And that is what he puts upon sinners, and that
- 4:57Speaker 1: by which their sins are covered. Wherefore he saith, as
- 5:01Speaker 1: by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by
- 5:05Speaker 1: the obedience of one shall many be made righteous Romans five,
- 5:10Speaker 1: nineteen Christiana. But are the other righteousnesses of no use
- 5:17Speaker 1: to us, mister Greatheart, Yes, For though they are essential
- 5:23Speaker 1: to his natures and office, and cannot be communicated unto another.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Yet it is by virtue of them that the righteousness
- 5:32Speaker 1: that justifies is for that purpose efficacious. The righteousness of
- 5:37Speaker 1: his Godhead gives virtue to his obedience. The righteousness of
- 5:41Speaker 1: his manhood giveth capability to his obedience to justify. And
- 5:46Speaker 1: the righteousness that standeth in the union of these two
- 5:49Speaker 1: natures to his office, giveth authority to that righteousness to
- 5:53Speaker 1: do the work for which it was ordained. So then
- 5:58Speaker 1: here is a righteousness that Cries as God has no
- 6:01Speaker 1: need of, for he is God. Without it. Here is
- 6:06Speaker 1: a righteousness that Christ as man has no need of,
- 6:10Speaker 1: to make him so, for he is perfect man without it. Again,
- 6:15Speaker 1: here is a righteousness that Christ, as god man has
- 6:18Speaker 1: no need of, for he is perfectly so without it.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Here then is a righteousness that Christ, as God and
- 6:26Speaker 1: as god Man, has no need of with reference to himself,
- 6:31Speaker 1: and therefore he can spare it, a justifying righteousness that
- 6:35Speaker 1: he for himself wanteth not, and therefore giveth it away.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Hence it is called the gift of righteousness. This righteousness,
- 6:46Speaker 1: since Christ Jesus the Lord, has made himself under the law,
- 6:49Speaker 1: must be given away. For the Law doth not only
- 6:53Speaker 1: bide him that is under it to do justly, but
- 6:56Speaker 1: to use charity Romans five seventeen. Wherefore he must or
- 7:03Speaker 1: ought by the law. If he hath two coats, give
- 7:06Speaker 1: one to him that hath none. Now, our Lord indeed
- 7:10Speaker 1: hath two coats, one for himself and one to spare.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Wherefore he freely bestows one upon those that have none.
- 7:19Speaker 1: And thus, Christiana, and Mercy and the rest of you
- 7:22Speaker 1: that are here, doth your pardon come by deed or
- 7:27Speaker 1: by the work of another man? Your Lord christ is
- 7:30Speaker 1: he that worked and hath given away what he wrought
- 7:33Speaker 1: for to the next poor beggar he meets. But again,
- 7:39Speaker 1: in order to pardon by deed, there must be something
- 7:42Speaker 1: be paid to God as a price, as well as
- 7:45Speaker 1: something prepared to cover us withal Sin has delivered us
- 7:50Speaker 1: up to the just curse of a righteous law. Now
- 7:57Speaker 1: from this curse we must be justified by way of redemption,
- 8:01Speaker 1: a price being paid for the harms we have done.
- 8:05Speaker 1: And this is by the blood of your Lord, who
- 8:07Speaker 1: came and stood in your place instead, and died your
- 8:11Speaker 1: death for your transgressions. Thus has He ransomed you from
- 8:15Speaker 1: your transgressions by blood and covered your polluted and deformed
- 8:19Speaker 1: souls with righteousness Romans eight thirty four, for the sake
- 8:27Speaker 1: of which God passeth by you and will not hurt
- 8:31Speaker 1: you when he comes to judge the world Galatians three thirteen. Christiana,
- 8:40Speaker 1: this is brave. Now I see that there was something
- 8:43Speaker 1: to be learned by our being pardoned by word and deed,
- 8:47Speaker 1: good mercy, let us labor to keep this in mind.
- 8:51Speaker 1: And my children, do you remember it also? But sir,
- 8:56Speaker 1: was not this it that made my good Christian's burden
- 8:59Speaker 1: fall from off his shoulder, and that made him give
- 9:02Speaker 1: three leaps for joy, mister Greatheart. Yes, it was the
- 9:09Speaker 1: belief of this that cut those strings that could not
- 9:11Speaker 1: be cut by other means. And it was to give
- 9:15Speaker 1: him a proof of the virtue of this that he
- 9:17Speaker 1: was suffered to carry his burden to the cross. Christiana,
- 9:23Speaker 1: I thought so, For though my heart was lightsome and
- 9:27Speaker 1: joyous before, yet it is ten times more lightsome and
- 9:30Speaker 1: joyous now. And I am persuaded by what I have felt,
- 9:34Speaker 1: though I have felt but little as yet, that if
- 9:37Speaker 1: the most burdened man in the world was here and
- 9:40Speaker 1: did see and believe as I now do, it would
- 9:44Speaker 1: make his heart the more merry and blithe. Mister Greatheart.
- 9:50Speaker 1: There is not only comfort and the ease of a
- 9:53Speaker 1: burden brought to us by the sight and consideration of these,
- 9:57Speaker 1: but an endeared affection begotten us by For who can
- 10:02Speaker 1: if he doth but once think that pardon comes not
- 10:04Speaker 1: only by promise, but thus but be affected with the
- 10:08Speaker 1: way and means of his redemption, and so with the
- 10:11Speaker 1: man that hath wrought it for him. Christiana, true methinks
- 10:18Speaker 1: it makes my heart bleed to think that he should
- 10:20Speaker 1: bleed for me, O, thy loving one, O, thou blessed one,
- 10:26Speaker 1: thou deservest to have me, Thou hast brought me, Thou
- 10:30Speaker 1: deservest to have me all thou hast paid for me
- 10:35Speaker 1: ten thousand times more than I am worth. No marvel
- 10:39Speaker 1: that this made the tears stand in my husband's eyes,
- 10:43Speaker 1: and that it made him trudge so nimbly on I
- 10:47Speaker 1: am persuaded. He wished me with him, But thou wretch
- 10:50Speaker 1: that I was, I let him come all alone, O mercy,
- 10:55Speaker 1: that thy father and mother were here, yea, and missus
- 10:58Speaker 1: Timoreus also, Nay, I wished now with all my heart
- 11:02Speaker 1: that here was Madame Wanton too. Surely surely their hearts
- 11:06Speaker 1: would be affected, Nor could the fear of the one
- 11:10Speaker 1: nor the powerful lusts of the other prevail with them
- 11:13Speaker 1: to go home again and to refuse to become good pilgrims.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Mister greatheart, you speak now in the warmth of your affections,
- 11:24Speaker 1: Will it think you be always thus with you Besides,
- 11:29Speaker 1: this is not communicated to every one, nor to every
- 11:33Speaker 1: one that did see your Jesus bleed. There were that
- 11:36Speaker 1: stood by, and that saw the blood run from the
- 11:39Speaker 1: heart to the ground, And yet were so far off
- 11:42Speaker 1: this that instead of lamenting, they laughed at him, and
- 11:47Speaker 1: instead of becoming his disciples, did harden their hearts against him.
- 11:52Speaker 1: So that all you have, my daughters, you have by
- 11:55Speaker 1: peculiar impression made by divine contemplating upon what I have
- 12:00Speaker 1: spoken to you. Remember that twas told you that the hen,
- 12:07Speaker 1: by her common call, gives no meat to her chickens.
- 12:11Speaker 1: This you have, therefore by a special grace. Now I
- 12:16Speaker 1: saw in my dream that they went on until they
- 12:19Speaker 1: were come to the place that simple and sloth and
- 12:22Speaker 1: presumption lay and slept in. When Christian went by on pilgrimage,
- 12:27Speaker 1: and behold they were hanged up in irons, a little
- 12:31Speaker 1: way off on the other side. Mercy then said, Mercy
- 12:36Speaker 1: to him that was their guide and conductor. What are
- 12:40Speaker 1: these three men? And for what are they hanged there?
- 12:44Speaker 1: Mister greatheart, These three men were men of very bad qualities.
- 12:50Speaker 1: They had no mind to be pilgrims themselves, and whomsoever
- 12:54Speaker 1: they could they hindered, They were sloth and folly themselves.
- 12:59Speaker 1: And whom service they could persuade, they made so too,
- 13:02Speaker 1: and withal taught them to presume that they should do well.
- 13:06Speaker 1: At last they were asleep when Christian went by, and
- 13:10Speaker 1: now you go by. They are hanged mercy. But could
- 13:17Speaker 1: they persuade any to be of their opinion, mister Greatheart, Yes,
- 13:24Speaker 1: they turned several out of the way. There was slow
- 13:27Speaker 1: pace that they persuaded to do as they. They also
- 13:31Speaker 1: prevailed with one short wind, with one no heart, with
- 13:35Speaker 1: one linger after lust, and with one sleepy head, and
- 13:40Speaker 1: with a young woman her name was Dull, to turn
- 13:43Speaker 1: out of the way and become as they. Besides, they
- 13:47Speaker 1: brought up an ill report of your Lord, persuading others
- 13:51Speaker 1: that he was a hard taskmaster. They also brought up
- 13:55Speaker 1: an evil report of the good land, saying it was
- 13:58Speaker 1: not half so good as some pretended was. They also
- 14:02Speaker 1: began to vilify his servants and to count the best
- 14:05Speaker 1: of their meddlesome, troublesome, busy bodies. Further, they would call
- 14:10Speaker 1: the bread of God husks, the comforts of his children, fancies,
- 14:14Speaker 1: the travel and labor of pilgrims, things to no purpose, Christiana. Nay,
- 14:21Speaker 1: said Christiana, if they were such, they shall never be bewailed
- 14:26Speaker 1: by me. They have but what they deserve. And I
- 14:30Speaker 1: think it is well that they stand so near the
- 14:32Speaker 1: highway that others may see and take warning. But had
- 14:36Speaker 1: it not been well if their crimes had been engraven
- 14:39Speaker 1: in some plate of iron or brass, and left here
- 14:43Speaker 1: where they did their mischiefs, for a caution to other
- 14:46Speaker 1: bad men, Mister greatheart, So it is as you may
- 14:51Speaker 1: well perceive, if you will go a little to the
- 14:54Speaker 1: wall mercy. No, no, let them hang, and their names rot,
- 15:01Speaker 1: and their crimes live forever against them. I think it
- 15:05Speaker 1: a high favor that they were hanged before we came hither.
- 15:09Speaker 1: Who knows else what they might have done to such
- 15:12Speaker 1: poor women as we are. Then she turned it into
- 15:16Speaker 1: a song, saying, now, then, ye three, hang there, and
- 15:20Speaker 1: be a sign to all that shall against the truth. Combine,
- 15:24Speaker 1: and let him that comes after fear this end. If
- 15:28Speaker 1: unto pilgrims, he is not a friend. And thou, my soul,
- 15:32Speaker 1: of all such men, beware that unto holiness opposes are.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Thus they went on till they came to the foot
- 15:41Speaker 1: of the hill, difficulty, where again the good mister Greatheart
- 15:46Speaker 1: took an occasion to tell them what happened there when
- 15:48Speaker 1: Christian himself went by. So he had them first to
- 15:53Speaker 1: the spring lo saith he this is the spring that
- 15:58Speaker 1: Christian drank of before he went up this hill, and
- 16:02Speaker 1: then it was clear and good. But now it is
- 16:05Speaker 1: dirty with the feet of some that are not desirous
- 16:08Speaker 1: that pilgrims here should quench their thirst Ezekiel thirty four
- 16:12Speaker 1: eighteen and nineteen. There at Mercy said, and why so
- 16:18Speaker 1: envious Troe, but said their guide. It will do if
- 16:23Speaker 1: taken up and put into a vessel that is sweet
- 16:26Speaker 1: and good, for then the dirt will sink to the bottom,
- 16:29Speaker 1: and the water come out by itself more clear. Thus
- 16:34Speaker 1: therefore Christiana and her companions were compelled to do. They
- 16:38Speaker 1: took it up and put it into an earthen pot,
- 16:41Speaker 1: and so let it stand till the dirt was gone
- 16:43Speaker 1: to the bottom, and then they drank thereof. Next, he
- 16:49Speaker 1: showed them the two by ways that were at the
- 16:52Speaker 1: foot of the hill, where formality and hypocrisy lost themselves,
- 16:57Speaker 1: and said he these are dangerous paths. Two were here
- 17:02Speaker 1: cast away when Christian came by, and although as you see,
- 17:06Speaker 1: these ways are since stopped up with chains, purses, and
- 17:09Speaker 1: a ditch, yet there are those that will choose to
- 17:12Speaker 1: adventure here, rather than take the pains to go up
- 17:16Speaker 1: this hill. Christiana, the way of transgressors is hard Proverbs
- 17:24Speaker 1: thirteen fifteen. It is a wonder that they can get
- 17:28Speaker 1: into these ways without danger of breaking their necks, Mister Greatheart,
- 17:35Speaker 1: they will venture, yea if at any time any of
- 17:38Speaker 1: the King's servants do happen to see them, and do
- 17:41Speaker 1: call upon them and tell them that they are in
- 17:44Speaker 1: the wrong way, and do bid them beware of the danger,
- 17:48Speaker 1: then they railingly return them answer and say, as for
- 17:52Speaker 1: the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the
- 17:54Speaker 1: name of the King, we will not hearken unto thee,
- 17:58Speaker 1: but we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth out of
- 18:01Speaker 1: our own mouths Jeremiah forty four, sixteen and seventeen. Nay,
- 18:07Speaker 1: if you look a little further, you shall see that
- 18:10Speaker 1: these ways are made cautionary enough, not only by these
- 18:14Speaker 1: posts and ditch and chain, but also by being hedged up.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Yet they will choose to go there, Christiana. They are idle.
- 18:24Speaker 1: They love not to take pains up hill. Way is
- 18:28Speaker 1: unpleasant to them, so it is fulfilled unto them. As
- 18:31Speaker 1: it is written, the way of the slothful man is
- 18:34Speaker 1: full of thorns Proverbs fifteenth, nineteen. YEA, they will rather
- 18:40Speaker 1: choose to walk upon a snare than to go up
- 18:43Speaker 1: this hill and the rest of this way to the city.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Then they set forward and began to go up the hill.
- 18:50Speaker 1: And up the hill they went. But before they got
- 18:53Speaker 1: to the top, Christiana began to pant, and said, I
- 18:58Speaker 1: dare say this is a breathing hill, no marvel of
- 19:01Speaker 1: they that loved their ease more than their souls choose
- 19:05Speaker 1: to themselves a smoother way. Then said Mercy, I must
- 19:10Speaker 1: sit down. Also, the least of the children began to cry, Come, Come,
- 19:16Speaker 1: said Greatheart, sit not down here, for a little above
- 19:20Speaker 1: is the prince's arbor. Then he took the little boy
- 19:24Speaker 1: by the hand and led him up there too. When
- 19:27Speaker 1: they were come to the arbor, they were very willing
- 19:30Speaker 1: to sit down, for they were all in a pelting heat.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Then said Mercy, how sweet is rest to them that
- 19:38Speaker 1: labor Matthew eleven twenty eight. And how good is the
- 19:42Speaker 1: prince of pilgrims to provide such resting places for them.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Of this arbor I have heard much, but I never
- 19:50Speaker 1: saw it before. But here let us beware of sleeping,
- 19:54Speaker 1: for as I have heard it cost poor Christian. Dear,
- 19:59Speaker 1: then said miss the great Heart to the little ones. Come,
- 20:02Speaker 1: my pretty boys, how do you do? What think you
- 20:06Speaker 1: now of going on pilgrimage? Sir said the least. I
- 20:11Speaker 1: was almost beat out of heart, But I thank you
- 20:14Speaker 1: for lending me a hand at my need. And I
- 20:17Speaker 1: remember now what my mother hath told me, namely that
- 20:21Speaker 1: the way to heaven is as a ladder, and the
- 20:24Speaker 1: way to hell is as down a hill. But I
- 20:28Speaker 1: had rather go up the ladder to life than down
- 20:31Speaker 1: the hill to death. Then said Mercy. But the proverb
- 20:37Speaker 1: is to go down the hill is easy, But James said,
- 20:41Speaker 1: for that was his name the day's coming, when, in
- 20:45Speaker 1: my opinion, when going down the hill will be the
- 20:48Speaker 1: hardest of all. Tis a good boy, said his master,
- 20:53Speaker 1: thou hast given her a right answer. Then Mercy smiled,
- 20:58Speaker 1: but the little boy did blush. Christiana, Come, said Christiana,
- 21:05Speaker 1: Will you eat a bit to sweeten your mouths while
- 21:07Speaker 1: you sit here to rest your legs? For I have
- 21:10Speaker 1: here a piece of pomegranate, which mister Interpreter put into
- 21:14Speaker 1: my hand. Just when I came out of his door.
- 21:17Speaker 1: He gave me also a piece of an honeycomb, and
- 21:20Speaker 1: a little bottle of spirits. I thought he gave you something,
- 21:24Speaker 1: said Mercy, because he called you aside. Yes, so he did,
- 21:29Speaker 1: said the other. But said Christiana, it shall be still
- 21:33Speaker 1: as I said it should when at first we came
- 21:35Speaker 1: from home. Thou shalt be a sharer in all the
- 21:38Speaker 1: good that I have, because thou so willingly didst become
- 21:42Speaker 1: my companion. Then she gave to them, and they did eat,
- 21:46Speaker 1: both Mercy and the boys. And said Christiana to mister Greatheart, sir,
- 21:52Speaker 1: will you do as we But he answered, you are
- 21:56Speaker 1: going on pilgrimage, and presently I shall return much good.
- 22:01Speaker 1: May what you have do you at home? I eat
- 22:04Speaker 1: the same every day. And Part two the third stage