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Mark Belling Podcast #88: The whole Epstein story is one of hypocrisy including the refusal of the media to focus on the obvious biggest name involved: Bill Clinton. More hypocrisy on today's podcast from the Texas redistricting ruling to Hollywood hating on Cheryl Hines (she's firing back). And, one of the two big Wis leftist unions dives into the Dem Gov race by endorsing Sara Rodriguez. · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: If today's podcast has a theme, it's hypocrisy. Every one
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  Speaker 2: of the topics that I have in the first segment here,
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  Speaker 2: hypocrisy is the driving really idea in that topic. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to start with Jeffrey Epstein. You can't discuss the
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  Speaker 2: Epstein story without addressing just the hypocrisy that overwhelms every
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  Speaker 2: part of it. There isn't an aspect to this story,
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  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of aspects, but there isn't one
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  Speaker 2: of them in which the hypocrisy doesn't overwhelm anything else
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  Speaker 2: that you would be discussing about it. Congress voted and
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  Speaker 2: Trump signed authorization to release the files. Already, there's one
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  Speaker 2: scalp throughout this whole thing. Other than Epstein himself and
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  Speaker 2: Julianne Maxwell, the only person really to suffer any consequences
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  Speaker 2: been Prince Andrew, who's sort of kicked out of the
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  Speaker 2: royal family. Now there's a second Larry Summers Democrat administration hack.
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  Speaker 2: When we're head of Harvard now a Harvard professor. He's
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  Speaker 2: resigning from everything, taking leaves of absence, resigning from nine
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  Speaker 2: hundred boards, from everything, and it's clear he's going to
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  Speaker 2: disappear from public view now. Larry Summers has been implicated
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  Speaker 2: forever as being one of the people that supposedly had
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  Speaker 2: visited Epstein Island. But because there's never been any proof
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  Speaker 2: of anything, and nobody's ever been charged, none of these people,
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  Speaker 2: as they say, other than Prince Andrew River, has suffered
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  Speaker 2: any consequences. But obviously Summers realizes that when these documents
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  Speaker 2: are released, there's going to be really damning stuff on him.
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  Speaker 2: It's another there's number two. In the meantime, there are
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  Speaker 2: two words that just scream out at this whole story,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that they drive the hypocrisy that's in it.
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  Speaker 3: The first word is Bill and the second word is Clinton.
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  Speaker 2: Visit you line dot com. So there's this vote in
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  Speaker 2: Congress virtually unanimous. I think one member of the House
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  Speaker 2: voter no. The Senate passed the unanimously Trump sign the bill.
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  Speaker 2: Now let's start with releasing all of these files. First
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  Speaker 2: of all, this is obviously a dubious thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: We don't normally release all of the files in a
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  Speaker 2: criminal investoration. Let's take Epstein out of this and just
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  Speaker 2: imagine that we're investigating some other crime somewhere. The cops
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  Speaker 2: talk to nine thousand different people. There are all sorts
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  Speaker 2: of people who may be questioned who didn't do it,
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  Speaker 2: others that may be questioned who might have been involved,
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  Speaker 2: and then you pick up all sorts of other stuff
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  Speaker 2: that's extraneous to the actual thing they're investigating. Well, all
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  Speaker 2: that stuff's in the files. In addition to that, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just telling you right now, when they do the dump
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  Speaker 2: of this, there are going to be people who come
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  Speaker 2: out and say, but we want more, we want more,
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  Speaker 2: we want more. And that's because the government has already
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  Speaker 2: said that some of this stuff is going to be classified,
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  Speaker 2: and people aren't gonna like, oh, what, what's classified?
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  Speaker 3: What are you hiding in the classified?
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  Speaker 2: Nonetheless, we're going to get what we're going to get.
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  Speaker 3: Here's how this story is going to play out.
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  Speaker 2: Any name that shows up, without regard to whether they
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  Speaker 2: were traveling to the island.
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  Speaker 3: Or if they once played golf.
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  Speaker 2: With Jeffrey Epstein, if that person is a Republican, their
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  Speaker 2: name is going to be in headlines that they're going
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  Speaker 2: to be tired. And every person in there who is
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  Speaker 2: a Democrat, the story is going.
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  Speaker 3: To not appear very much.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what any of them do. But every
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  Speaker 2: Republican is going to be highlighted without regard to whether
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  Speaker 2: or not they did anything inappropriate sexually with children, And
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  Speaker 2: every Democrat, including those that were the worst pedophiles possible,
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  Speaker 2: if they're already, will be swept away. But that's par
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  Speaker 2: for the course all the time, and it's part of
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  Speaker 2: the hypocrisy in the story.
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  Speaker 3: But we can't stop at that hypocrisy.
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  Speaker 2: I've got several bullet points that I want to hit
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  Speaker 2: on here, the unfortunately named James Comer. People mix him
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  Speaker 2: up with James Comy in part they're both weird last names.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anybody else's last name is Comy other
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  Speaker 2: than James Comy, and I don't think any know anybody
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  Speaker 2: else's last name was.
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  Speaker 3: Comber other than James Comer.
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  Speaker 2: James Comer is the Republican chairman of the House Committee
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  Speaker 2: on Investigations. Comy, of course, is the former FBI director
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  Speaker 2: who's a crook. James Comer says that both Bill and
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  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton have ignored every request for information and subpoena
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  Speaker 2: that has been given to them with regard to their
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  Speaker 2: investigation of Epstein. Now let's pause on that for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Although you know who Steve Bannon is. Do you know
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  Speaker 2: who Steve Bannon is? Peter Navarro's another name. He was
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  Speaker 2: Trump trade advisor and administration number one. As every left
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  Speaker 2: he will tell you. They both went to prison. Do
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  Speaker 2: you know why they went to prison?
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  Speaker 3: Most people don't know.
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  Speaker 2: For refusing to cooperate with the congressional investigation. They defied
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  Speaker 2: congressional subpoenas because they felt that the investigation was bogus.
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  Speaker 2: Bannon went to prison for it, so did Navow.
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  Speaker 3: If out it four months, bannited longer.
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  Speaker 2: So if the Clintons refused to cooperate with the investigation
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  Speaker 2: into Epstein, are we gonna put them in prison?
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  Speaker 3: If not? Why not? And this is again the point.
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  Speaker 2: About the entire hypocrisy thing anybody connected to Trump, it
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  Speaker 2: didn't matter what it was, that they would simply look
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  Speaker 2: for some sort of example of wrongdoing and use it
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  Speaker 2: to lock them up, even if the wrong doing isn't
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  Speaker 2: that wrong or common. Should the Clintons be locked up
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  Speaker 2: if they don't answer a congressional request for information or
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  Speaker 2: a subpoena on Epstein? Now we all know why Bill
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  Speaker 2: and Hillary Clinton don't want to testify before Congress on Epstein.
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  Speaker 3: How does Bill Clinton under.
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  Speaker 2: Oath answer the question about what did you do on
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  Speaker 2: those twenty six times that you flew on Jeffrey Epstein's
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  Speaker 2: private jet? And Hillary Clinton doesn't want to answer the
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  Speaker 2: question about did you know that Bill Clinton flew on
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  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein's private jet twenty six times? Neither of them
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  Speaker 2: want to answer that question. For one thing lying under
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  Speaker 2: oath is how they nail all of these people. They
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  Speaker 2: certainly don't want to plead the thefts because while neither
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  Speaker 2: of them is a political future and Bill Clinton doesn't
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  Speaker 2: seem to have much of a future at all, their
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  Speaker 2: reputations are at stake here.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: From the perspective of I think most Democrats, the Clintons
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  Speaker 2: are in the rearview mirror, Mom, Donnie and AOC. That's
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  Speaker 2: what's in the wind looking out the front windshield, the
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  Speaker 2: rear view of that.
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  Speaker 3: Clinton's our hatstory. Hillary's never going to be anything again.
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  Speaker 2: And if Bill has his reputation tarnished, what do most
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  Speaker 2: Democrats care? They don't, so they're willing to sacrifice whatever
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  Speaker 2: comes out with regard to the role of the Clintons,
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  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein as they try to use this thing to
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  Speaker 2: somehow get something somewhere on Trump, even though every indication
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  Speaker 2: out there is that Donald Trump didn't have anything to
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  Speaker 2: do with the shenanigans involving Epstein and underage girls. If
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  Speaker 2: there were many that were underage, very unclear. It's not
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  Speaker 2: how many of them were underage, because Eve only identified
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  Speaker 2: by name. Really, Jeuffrey is about the only one that
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  Speaker 2: we know for certain. There are a couple of others
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  Speaker 2: who've testified. But otherwise, all these other girls and women
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  Speaker 2: that were we don't know who they are, much less
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  Speaker 2: what their ages were. But if there had been any
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  Speaker 2: indication Trump had ever been to that island, we would
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  Speaker 2: have had it by now. It's well, Trump knew him here,
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  Speaker 2: and Trump said something here, and Trump said on a
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  Speaker 2: golf ball. At one point in the meantime, Jeffrey has
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  Speaker 2: said Donald Trump was the guy that tried to caution
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  Speaker 2: people not to come down there. Nonetheless, from the perspective
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  Speaker 2: of the left, they're going after this thing just because
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  Speaker 2: they think somehow they can embarrass Trump.
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  Speaker 3: Which brings me to the second part of the hypocrisy.
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  Speaker 2: This overwhelming, virtually unanimous vote in the Congress to release
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  Speaker 2: the files. When could they have done this. They could
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  Speaker 2: have done this last week. They could have done this
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  Speaker 2: last month. They could have done this last year. They
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  Speaker 2: could have done this in twenty twelve, twenty three. Do
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  Speaker 2: you know how old the Epstein case is. Epstein was
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  Speaker 2: first sentenced twenty years ago, and then the case was
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  Speaker 2: revisited in the last decade, and then revisited again with
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  Speaker 2: the Julane Maxwell charges and then Epstein committing his suicide.
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  Speaker 3: If that's what it was.
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  Speaker 2: The Congress never voted overwhelming they released files. No again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that these files shouldn't be released. I
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  Speaker 2: do think that just dumping thousands of pages of investigatory
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  Speaker 2: files can lead to shenanigans with regard to the people
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  Speaker 2: that are reporting on them, because ninety eight percent of
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  Speaker 2: the stuff and investigatory files don't lead to anything that's criminal.
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  Speaker 3: But if they have to be out there, and they're
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  Speaker 3: out there, fine.
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  Speaker 2: The point that I'm making is the timing of all
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  Speaker 2: of this is the whole way of understanding the story.
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  Speaker 2: Put it this way, if Kamala Harris had been elected
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  Speaker 2: last year in twenty twenty four, it may well be
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  Speaker 2: that Republicans would still be voting to release the Epstein files.
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  Speaker 3: Would any Democrats have been voting to do it.
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  Speaker 2: There doesn't seem to be any connection between Kamala Harris
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  Speaker 2: and Jeffrey Epstein, So why would they not be voting
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  Speaker 2: for that? Because I suspect their great fear if she
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  Speaker 2: was the president is we're gonna go back and we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna look at all of the stuff that's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: embarrassing to other Democrats. Now they're willing to roll that
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  Speaker 2: dice because somehow they think that they can get something
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  Speaker 2: on Donald Trump. Nowhere in here from anybody involved, anybody
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  Speaker 2: does there seem to be any actual concern about what
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  Speaker 2: it was that happened with regard to Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 3: And to this day, I don't know how much happened.
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  Speaker 2: Part of me thinks that a whole lot of people
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  Speaker 2: went down to that island. There may have been two
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  Speaker 2: a small percentage of the women that were under age,
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  Speaker 2: and some of the creeps may have had sex with.
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  Speaker 3: Them and most may not.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, though, It's weird how unspecific all of
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  Speaker 2: the people who are there, and Jewfrey herself, when she
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  Speaker 2: started naming names, had to retract that she named Dershowitz,
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  Speaker 2: and then she later said, I guess I got that wrong.
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  Speaker 2: None of the other women have really spilled the names
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  Speaker 2: on anything other than every single person seems to be
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  Speaker 2: convinced that Prince Andrew was there. He's the one guy
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  Speaker 2: that has no deniability. I'm guessing Larry Summers not doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have any deniability either.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get to the next part of this.
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  Speaker 2: ABC News yesterday was Porter was grilling Trump on the
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  Speaker 2: whole Epstein thing. Okay, now you're gonna sign the bill?
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  Speaker 3: What change or change a change. It was only a
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  Speaker 3: couple of months.
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  Speaker 2: Ago that a hidden camera, hidden microphone video was released
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  Speaker 2: of an ABC News reporter bitching that she had the
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  Speaker 2: entire Epstein story in twenty sixteen and was obstructed by
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  Speaker 2: ABC for three years and they wouldn't let her report it.
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  Speaker 2: The ABC reporter you know these Project Vera tests videos,
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  Speaker 2: what Project Vera tess does, And you can argue it's
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  Speaker 2: unethical or maybe it's ethical, whatever way you want to
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  Speaker 2: believe on it. They'll have somebody with a hidden camera
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  Speaker 2: and a hidden microphone poses. For instance, they'll go to
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  Speaker 2: like a bar, and the bar or the meeting as
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  Speaker 2: a party involving a bunch of lefties, and they'll post
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  Speaker 2: as a lefty and try to suck up and start
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  Speaker 2: talking to people. And they've been very, very successful, and
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  Speaker 2: people start spilling the beans because they don't know that
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  Speaker 2: they're talking to a conservative undercover operative. They think that
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  Speaker 2: they're talking to a fellow lefty. So they walked up
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  Speaker 2: to an ABC reporter and got her to rant and
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  Speaker 2: rave that ABC News spiked all of her coverage of
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  Speaker 2: Epstein years ago, she suspects because they were trying to
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  Speaker 2: protect the Clintons, which brings me to the next element
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  Speaker 2: of the hypocrisy. Jeffrey Epstein's story is decades old. It's
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  Speaker 2: now in every media outlet that exists.
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  Speaker 3: Where were they all this time?
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  Speaker 2: Why is Epstein suddenly to them interesting and newsworthy again?
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  Speaker 2: It's complete hypocrisy. There have been people on the right end,
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  Speaker 2: even some of the left two for years have been
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  Speaker 2: suggesting that a sweet art deal was done for Epstein
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  Speaker 2: and that.
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  Speaker 3: The story was swept under the wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Because a lot of rich and powerful people, mostly left
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  Speaker 2: its elites, were involved in the behavior with Epstein, and
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  Speaker 2: nobody would pay attention to it.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody would pay attention to it went through Republican.
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  Speaker 2: Administration's democratic administrations, and you couldn't get media attention on
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  Speaker 2: it at all. But suddenly now Epstein is the beginning, middle,
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  Speaker 2: and end of the world. Nothing in the Epstein store
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  Speaker 2: has changed because Epstein's dead. There are no more parties.
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  Speaker 2: Every bit of wrongdoing occurred many years ago. Suddenly ABC
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  Speaker 2: is brilling Trump. ABC the same outlet that spiked apparently
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  Speaker 2: a lot of information that one of their own reporters
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  Speaker 2: had and wouldn't Letter report it for three years. This
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  Speaker 2: to me is reminiscent of the Ronan Pharaoh expose on Weinstein,
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  Speaker 2: the big Hollywood movie studio owner ronand Farall was working for.
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  Speaker 2: And Ronan Faraoh is the son of Mia Farrell terrible
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  Speaker 2: relationship with me A's ex partner, Woody Allen, who most
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  Speaker 2: people now think is not actually his father. The older
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  Speaker 2: you get, the more you start looking like your father.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: And every year that passes, Ronan Pharaoh looks more and
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  Speaker 2: more like Frank Sinatra, who Mia Farall was married to
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  Speaker 2: in the sixties and apparently had a fling with twenty
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  Speaker 2: years later.
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  Speaker 3: And some people say he looks a little like Woody Allen.
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  Speaker 2: I think that very I don't know how you could
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  Speaker 2: look like both Woody Allen and Frank Sinatra. I mean,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: can you come up with two more opposite look I mean,
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  Speaker 2: but what if you like see but see? Mia Farrell
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  Speaker 2: was weird looking herself, so her appearance in their muddy
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  Speaker 2: as the whole anyway. Ronan Farrell had the Weinstein story
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  Speaker 2: when he was working for NBC. NBC refused to let
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: him report it, so he ended up reporting the story
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  Speaker 2: for another news organization, Weinstein went to prison, etc.
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  Speaker 3: It's the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Media outlets that not only don't cover a story, have
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  Speaker 2: the story and suppress it. Suddenly when it gets out,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: try to get up on a high horse and say
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  Speaker 2: and demand that others what about this story? What about
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: this story? What about this story? When they themselves are
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  Speaker 2: the ones that were covering the story up hypocrisy, everything
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  Speaker 2: about Epstein. And I'm not just including Democrats in the.
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  Speaker 3: Media and everybody.
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  Speaker 2: My opinion, the Epstein story is important. However, most of
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  Speaker 2: the wrongdoing appears to have occurred in the past, yet
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  Speaker 2: there are contemporary components of this. One thing is clear,
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans are not going to simply allow this. We're
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  Speaker 2: only going to focus on Republican wrongdoing with Epstein, then
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  Speaker 2: I going to allow that to go unchallenged.
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  Speaker 3: The chief fundraiser for JB.
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  Speaker 2: Pritzker, who's going to run for president, the Fatso governor
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  Speaker 2: of Illinois, he was shaking down Epstein for money after
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  Speaker 2: Epstein was convicted, trying to get Epstein to contribute to
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  Speaker 2: Pritzker's campaign fund. There are a whole lot of Democrats
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  Speaker 2: who remained tight with Jeffrey Epstein after he was convicted.
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  Speaker 2: Now one of the people trying to make this point
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  Speaker 2: is Trump. If I were advising Trump, I would urge
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: others to make the point for him. But Trump clearly
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  Speaker 2: the thing that really if you want to set Trump off,
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  Speaker 2: it's when you start holding Trump to a different standard
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  Speaker 2: than you hold other people too. And remember Trump has
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  Speaker 2: been so has been falsely accused his entire political career,
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  Speaker 2: starting with Russia collusion January sixth, Charlottesville, all of this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So this is what he put on truth Social last night,
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  Speaker 2: right as he signed the bill to release the files.
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  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein, who was charged by the Trump Justice Department
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  Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, not the Democrats, was a lifelong Democrat
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  Speaker 2: donated And by the way, that is true when Epstein
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  Speaker 2: killed himself, if that's what he did in prison, it
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: was because he was charged with the Justice Department. That
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  Speaker 2: was Trump's Justice department at the time. Trump didn't leave
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  Speaker 2: office until twenty one.
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  Speaker 3: This is nineteen So.
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  Speaker 2: Trump is right about my Justice department is the one
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  Speaker 2: that charged him the second time. Remember who is convicted
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  Speaker 2: and had the soft treatment better than a decade earlier.
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  Speaker 2: But in nineteen he and Julanne Maxwell were arrested and
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  Speaker 2: criminally charged again, and that's when Epstein killed himself.
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  Speaker 3: If he did so. Trump points that.
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  Speaker 2: Out, it was my justice department that actually charged the
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  Speaker 2: guy after he was white, after they whitewashed the case
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  Speaker 2: against him ten years earlier. Was a lifelong Democrat, donated
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  Speaker 2: thousands of dollars to Democrat politicians, and was deeply associated
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  Speaker 2: with many well known Democratic figures, such as Bill Clinton,
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  Speaker 2: who traveled on his plane twenty six times.
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  Speaker 3: Now let me interject on that we know this about Clinton.
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  Speaker 3: He's a free loader.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think he probably flew on Ron Berkele's
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: yet five thousand times. It's possible Clinton was on that
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: private jet just because he was going somewhere else and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: was leeching off of somebody, because Clinton.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Is a cheap skate. That's possible, except.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I think if there's anybody whose life story would indicate
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: his high desire and life is having sex, it's Bill Clinton.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: How many other guys got you know what and in
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: the Oval office by someone, but by an intern. This
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: is a guy that was willing to risk his presidency
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: in order to have somebody.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Do the down and dirty at him.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: So my guess is if he was on the plane.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: It was probably because he was going to get some
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: girls somewhere. Now, if this was some other person, maybe
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you got well, I guy, I went on Epstein's jenny
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: was flat, his jet all over the place.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: He was a guy.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: The other part of the story that I don't know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe it'll be in the files. Nobody has ever come
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: up to me, come up to me with a per
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: persuasive explanation of how Epstein got his money.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: He just suddenly magically became a billionaire.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: There have been all sorts of speculation that he was
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: an asset of Masad, the Israeli version of the CIA,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: that they propped him up with money to get in
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: tight with people and then report back on what he
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: learned just a millionaire.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: No one knows.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And whether or not the truth is ever gonna come
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: on of this, I doubt again you're gonna classify some
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: of these documents. Anyway, back to Trump's statement Larry Summers,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: who just resigned from many boards, including Harvard Sleeves Bag
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: political activist Reid Hoffman read Hoffman, Here's something that people
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: on my side, the Conservatives, are terrible at. We just
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: do not know how to demonize.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: The other side.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: The moment Musk started supporting Trump and giving money to conservatives,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the left turned him into Satan himself. Reid Hoffman is
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: one of the three or four giant Democrat donors. He
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: gave a massive amount of money to political action funds
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: that are active here in Wisconsin, supported Supreme Court candidates
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and so on.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Where did he get his money?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: He founded LinkedIn read Hoffman Minority leader Hakeem Jeffries who
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: asked Epstein to donate to his campaign after Epstein was charged.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if Trump had asked Epstein for campaign contributions.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Hakeem Jeffries is the Democratic leader in the House of Representatives.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: After Epstein was charged, Hakeem Jeffries hit him up for money.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Now you see why this is sticking in Trump's craws,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: all these people trying to point the finger at him
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: because he sent Epstein a golf ball at a pen
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: and a pen set, Happy birthday or whatever. Democratic Congresswoman
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Stacey Plaskett, that's the woman from the Virgin Islands we
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: discussed there earlier in the week and many more. Perhaps
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: the truth about these Democrats and their associations with Jeffrey
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Epstein will soon be revealed because I have just signed
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the bill to release the Epstein files. As everyone knows,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I asked Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and sent
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Majority Leader John Thune to pass this bill in the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: House and Senate, respectively. Well, everybody doesn't know that Trump
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: is playing fast and loose with the facts. There He
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: said he would support passage of the bill once he
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: realized that it was going to pass. Nonetheless, because of this request,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the votes were almost unanimous in favor of passage. Direction
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: to the Department of Justice has already turned over close
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: to fifty thousand pages of documents to Congress. Do not
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: forget the Biden administration did not turn over a single
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: file or page related to Democrat Epstein. Let me interject,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: and did anyone in the media for the four years
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: that Biden was the president ever demand that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I'm killing you.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: It's like people just discovered that Jeff Deffrey is a
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: pervert the moment that Donald Trump got inaugurated January twentieth
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: of this year, Epstein was.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Dead six years prior to that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: See, as I see, you can see why this stuff
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: frosts Trump.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Continuing.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Nor did they even ever even speak about him. Democrats
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: have used the Epstein issue, which affects them far more
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: than the Republican Party, in order to try to distract
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: from our amazing victories, including the great, big, beautiful tax
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: cut bill, strong borders, no men and women's sports are
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: transgender for everyone, ending DEEI, stopping Biden's record setting inflation,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: lowering prices, biggest tax cut regulation cuts in history, ending
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: eight wars, rebuilding our military, knocking out of RAN's nuclear capability,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: getting trillions of dollars invested in the United States, creating
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the hottest country anywhere in the world, and even delivering
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: a huge defeat to the Democrats on the recent shutdown disaster.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And again I'll interject, when you consider the blow up
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: that Trump's had with Marjorie Taylor Green and so on,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: this is the thing that's sticking with him. He's getting
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: no credit for the incredible first year of his presidency
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: because no matter what it is that he does, they're
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: going to try to bring up something to change the subject.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: And it's hacking Trump off that you'll see some Republicans
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: going along with this when he thinks that they're doing
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: so for self serving purposes. Marjorie Taylor Green wants to
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: run for the Senate from Georgia. She needs something. Trump
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: goes on with the state. Continuing on hypocrisy, a couple
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: of other topics here that play under this. The Texas
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Appeals Court ruling striking down the redrawing of congressional districts
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: in the.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: State of Texas.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: The level of hypocrisy in this story is extraordinary. First
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: of all, we all know why they redrew the districts
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: in Texas. They redrew them to make them more favorable
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to the Republicans. And a federal appeals panel in Texas
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: is saying you can't.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Do that since when.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Virtually, not all, but virtually every democratic state in the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: country has drawn its districts to favor the Democrats right now,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: California just passed the referendum so they can redraw the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: districts to favor the Democrats out there. The Supreme Court
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: itself has already held it is not illegal to draw
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: districts to favor one part, So the ruling of against
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the United States Supreme Court might be overturned.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: But that isn't the point. One of the things that I've.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Argued forever, not only on this podcast, but in my
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: old radio program is if you simply use the same
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: tactics that the Democrats use against you against them, they
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: go nuts. Democrats have jerry mandered forever. So the Republicans okay,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: well jerry mander Oh my god. And the thing that's
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: obnoxious here is when courts come in and say the
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Republicans can't do what the Democrats are currently doing. Now
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: the Appeals Court in Texas to say, well, we don't
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: have the California case in.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Front of us.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: You have states in the United States that are like
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: sixty two thirty eight states sixty two percent Democrats, thirty
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: eight percent Republican where there's one or no members of
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the House of Representatives.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: So how can you view this ruling somehow?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: You can't draw political lines, can't draw congressional lines for
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: political purposes.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: And that's on consider I'm not saying it's good.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: What I am saying it's been going on as long
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: as we've had districts in this country, and Democrats have
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: been notoriously for doing it, and no court has ever
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: said it was illegal, until suddenly the Republicans are brazen
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: enough to Okay, fine, you're doing it. We're going to
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: do it too, and finally, this on hypocrisy. Cheryl Hines
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: is speaking out now. One of the reasons she's speaking
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: out is she's written a book and she wants to
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: sell books. But let's face it, she doesn't need to
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: sell books. I think she's writing her book and then
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: doing the book tour.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: As the way of.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I won't say latching back, but responding to the Hollywood
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: types that are giving her abuse. As far as I
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: can tell, Cheryl Hines is a lefty to the extent
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: that she has any political beliefs. She was on Larry
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: David show. Larry David's like one of the biggest lefties
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: in the history of show business. My guess is that
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: if she was not a lefty, she would not have
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: been hired to be on that show.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, Larry Day. If you watch that.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Show, curb your enthusiasm. Everybody who was on that show
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: was a friend of Larry David. That's what it all was, right,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: And my guess is that Larry David doesn't have any
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: friends who are conservative, and that's why they had all
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: those left So Cheryl Hines is probably a lefty to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the extent that she has any political beliefs.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: She married RFK. Do you know what she married RFK? Yeah, fourteen.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Nobody got on her for doing that. It wasn't until
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: RFK ran for president last year and there was a
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: fear that he was going to take more votes from
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the Democrats and the Republicans. To this day, we don't
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: know which one decide he would have taken more from that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's an open question. The people who will
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: just hate the system and so on, maybe those are
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: also Trump voters.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe you a siphon for Trump.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Well, they started attacking her then when he was running
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: for president, because okay, he's a lifelong Democrat, he's gonna
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: siphon votes. First it was Biden and then of course Kamala.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Well then he gets out of the race, endorses Trump.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Now he's part of the Trump administration, and suddenly RFK
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: is the worst person in the world.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: And she's being attacked right and left for being married.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: How can you be married? Dan?
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: And she's responding on this. She did an interview with
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the BBC Take It Back Correction the Times of London.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Times of London quote, I have compassion for those actors
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: and entertainers who really want people to know where they
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: stand morally, I suppose, but I've never been one of them.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I've never been a person who has not been politically
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: and I've been a person who has not been politically inclined.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: But it is eye opening to see people really wanting
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: to till you how much their morals do not line
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: up with, say, the president administration, because they don't like
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: hate judgment. She continued, But then that's exactly what they
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: inflict on other people. We're inclusive, we like everybody regardless
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: except her. She's married to this guy, and I don't
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: She nailed it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: All these lefties that are an inclusive, inclusive, inclusive, inclusive,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: But suddenly they're not inclusive with Cheryl Hines, even though
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: she used to be their pal. Why because she's married
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: to Kennedy. So so much for their whole thing on inclusive.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, we don't.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Like Trump because Trump's all hate and we're loving people.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: We're inclusive people. And then she draws a tea to
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: their hypocrisy.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: They're not inclusive.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: They hate anybody in America who might be Maga or
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: in the case of Cherylane's married to somebody who's sort
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: of Magan and Kennedy isn't even really Magan, He's just
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: in Trump's administration dealing with one specific area.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Anyway, my point to one.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Hypocrisy, the Chryl Hines situation is not unprecedented. We've had
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: cases in our past in which Republicans have been married
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: to Democrats, etc. And in this case, I think Kennedy
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: is still a lefty. He's just more aligned with Trump
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: on areas of health, suspicion of the pharmaceutical companies, and
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: so on. I'm coming up with an example. And again,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: if you just want to find hypocrisy, just compare everything. Now,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: never mind Obama Clinton. These lefties who can't stand Cheryl
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Hines because she's married to RFK Junior. How come they
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: were fine with Carville? James Carville was married to George W.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Bush's chief political strategist, Mary Madeline. They hated Busch, They've
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: hated everybody. They hated Reagan, they hated the first Bush,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: they hated Nixon. I don't know if they hated Isa.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: You say it's all Trump. I'm just saying I was.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: They hated Reagan. They mocked and ridiculed Reagan. Remember where W.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Bush is the president. They despised him. He's stupid, he
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: says nuclear wrong, he calls it innuculear. He's an added,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: he's starting all these wars. The fact of the matter
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: is when the prime spouse is on their side, they're
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: never bothered if that spouse is married to somebody who's
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: on the other team. Everybody knows that Carville is one
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: of the principal reasons that Clinton won.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: He ran his campaign.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: James Carrville got a Democrat elected twice, So what do
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: we care if he's married or a Republican who was
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: on the other team.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: They didn't care, I think, I said. George W. Bush.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Mary Mattel lives actually strategist for George H. W. Bush
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: and an advisor later on to George W. Bush.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: But she came of age in the first Bush era.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: They hooked up, they married one another. You can go
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: with numerous other examples of this, and I'm sure you're
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: going to find some in the future. If some rising
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: star Democrat happens to be married to a conservative person,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: that rising star Democrat is the one they want to
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: hitch their wagon do it. They're not going to come
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: up and criticize that the spouse at all. Vanity Fair
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: magazine is big piece. Friends of Cheryl Hines just do
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: not understand how she could possibly be doing this, except
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: she's been doing it for eleven years.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Rfk's had the same baggage.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: For eleven years. He's a guy who apparently is well.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: He appears to be rather horny. He's got a lot
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: of weird stuff that he does. He's out there shooting
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: animals in Central Park. This is nothing new about him.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: He's been what he.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Was forever and ever and ever. It wasn't in kill.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: He saw an opportunity to address health by going after
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: institutions because Trump was willing to take him on board
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: in that area that anyone in Hollywood.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Got wondering at all about why in the world did.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Cheryl Heines marry RFK? This whole thing with lefties since
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: when have they ever looked the other way about anyone
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: being Look at the number of weirdos that are married
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: to other weirdos in Hollywood and nobody why would you
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: marry him?
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Believe it or not, There are people right now now
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: that are dating Amber Heard. I mean, if watch that trial,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: she appears to be to be.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I just think dating Amber Heard would be the absolute
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: stupidest thing any male could ever possibly do. First of all,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: she's going to beat the hell out of you. Second,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: she appears to be She just appears to be a
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: terribly vile and awful and horrible person. Right when in
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Hollywoh how many times? What about all these girlfriends Billy
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Bob Thornton had, I don't know what Angelina Julie is thinking.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: They've never asked that question. The weirder you are, the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: more they've embraced it. But oh, RFK Junior, how could
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: she do it? What is she thinking?
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: In Crib Your Enthusiasm she uh For the first half
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: of the series, she played Larry David's wife, and then
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: in the show they got divorced. That divorce happened at
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the same time that Larry David got divorced in real
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: life to his real life wife. But in any of it,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: you take her fictional life and her real life. In
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: her real life she's married to RFK Juli're in a
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: fictional life she's married to Larry David. I think she's
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: moved up. In her real life. Who's a weirder person
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to be married to?
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Seriously?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I mean RFK appears to be able to do ninety
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: seven million pushups in all of this stuff, and he's
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: got all of us here. Larry David is a freaky
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: old liberal. And plus you just know Larry David's kind
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: of kinky, don't you. I mean, he he just seems
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: like he is extremely funny guy. The same lefties that
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: are outraged at Cheryl Hines were perfectly fine when they
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: found out that Kamally Harris' husband.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Beat up a date that he had prior.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: To them being married. Remember when she told her story
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: about being smacked by him. That story was out there
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: and it was totally ignored by everybody on the left.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: So commonly can be married to a domestic abuser, but
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Cheryl Hines can't marry somebody who's in Trump's cabinet without
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: even I don't even think RFK has endorsed any part
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: of the Trump agenda other than the single area that
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: he's involved in, public health and so on. Take a
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: break on the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Belling Podcast. I always point out that it's impossible to
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: exaggerate liberalism. I mean the number of times in which
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I've said the next thing, you know, they're going to
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: when people no mark, they've already done that. You can't
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: exaggerate it. I've done in the past, like true or
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: false stories.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Is this story truer? Is it false? And you never know?
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: It's some ridiculous thing that a liberal has done. Did
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I make it up? Or is it true? I don't
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: know if this.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Exactly falls into the area of liberalism, other than the
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: story amuses me, because everything about pickleball amuses me. They
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: have banned pickleball in Carmel, California, banded.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: They've banned it. Do you know why, Paul? Because of
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: the sound. There's something. There's something about the paddle that
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: they use and the ball that they use. They didn't make.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: First of all, an any paddle sport like you wouldn't
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: think that a tennis racket is soft. You wouldn't think
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: that it would make the noise that it does, but
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: you could. It sounds like a gun going up and
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: you're a tennis Well, the picklepball thing is even louder.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: So.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: The Hoiti twities in Carmel, California don't like hearing the
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: sound of the pickleball being played. Do you understand how
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: much crime is going on in California. Now I understand,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: probably no crime is going on in Carmel. I don't
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Clint Eastwood was the mayor of Carmel by the Sea.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the same city or not.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they dropped them by the sea
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: or if that's a separate city right next by Dora
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and all. But there, let's say like a northern California
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: near the ocean. That's where all of those cities are
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: and so on. Everything about pickleball just amuses me, just
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: first of all, mostly because it was a sport that
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I think was I don't say it vented. It was
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: discovered by baby boomers who wanted to continue to do
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: something athletic but they couldn't do anything else because we're
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: all broken down. But we didn't want to just like
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: stand there and walk or something. I mean, it was
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: like it's like more physically taxing than bowling, kind of
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: as I'm just saying, but it's not real physically taxing. Plus,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I you've seen some of these people my age play it. Well, yeah,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying if you've seen some of them. I
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: didn't say all of them. I mean, you move more
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: planned ping pong than I see, especially when you see
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: them playing they played doubles. Doubles well, I mean, the
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: court is about as big as my table in here.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: You could cover the ground without ever moving your feet.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: If you're a tall guy like me, it's all your
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I think that's just hilarious that you Toreria and meniscus
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: playing pickleball.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: That's what you get for playing kickleball. Oh, you're back
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: in the court. You love it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Well, don't try to move to Carmel, California, because they've
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: banned it. The case of the case of Lawrence Reed.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: This is the guy fifty years old who threw some
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: sort of igniter fluid on a woman on a subway
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: platform in Chicago, et cetera.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Fire.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: She's twenty six, she lived. He's been arrested seventy one
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: times and convicted thirteen times, free on the street. This
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: is the case with virtually everybody who's arrested in charge
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: with anything horrible in Chicago. The embrace of the Marxists
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: in the big cities in America, because they're offered away
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: free stuff. The thing that you have to the thing
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: that the people that are voting for it have to accept.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: With it is they don't want to lock anybody up ever. Okay, fine,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I get to have my rent for free. But it
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: also means that if I'm waiting to get on the bus,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: somebody can set me on fire and they're not going
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: to get any do anything to them. That's the bargain
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: They're going to have to take. The free stuff, of course,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: will in time economic collapse because of itself, as it
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: always has. But the other part of the equation that
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: nobody's bad. No illegal immigrants can be kicked out of
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the country, no criminal can be jailed. We can't even
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: make if somebody is arrested, they don't even have to
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: put up any cash for bail.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: That's what you get. Along with all.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Of that political story from Wisconsin, and a big one.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: There are two powerful labor unions in Wisconsin that are
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: involved in democratic politics, The Teachers'.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Union and asks ME.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: AFSME is an acronym. They represent the vast majority of
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: unionized government employees in Wisconsin who aren't teachers state government workers.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Most of them are represented by afsby many municipalities, AFSME
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: AFSME has endorsed Sarah Rodriguez for governor. This is a
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: big deal for her. There are eighteen thousand Democrats running
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: for governor. The big names out of all of them,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I think you can break it into three, maybe four,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: But the biggest names are Mendela Barnes, who hasn't declared
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: yet but he is going to run, Sarah Rodriguez, and
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley. Some suggest Kelder Roy's because
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: she's a very well known lefty member of the state
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Legislature from Madison, But I'll break it down to the
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: top three. Getting that endorsement is huge. The other big
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: one is the Teachers' Union. If we know anything about lefties,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: it's they do what they're told for many people, if
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: you're at a union and your union endorses somebody. Famously,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: the Teamsters this past election did not endorse Kamala Harris.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: They sat the election out, which drove the lefties crazy.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: But the reality is is that at the head of
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: the teams who said when he when he spoke at
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the Republican Convention, Look, I understand the majority of my
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: members are going to vote for Trump. Why in the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: world are we going to go out there and try
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: to tell them to do something they don't want to
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: do whoever the teachers' union endorses. I'm just telling you
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: the majority of lefty, not non lefty, but the majority
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: of lefty unionized teachers, that's what they're going.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: To vote for.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: So I think this is a big endorsement for her. Now,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: you may wonder why did they do it?
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Democratic primary isn't until August the next year. Why don't
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: you try to weigh in on this. No, no, no, no,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: she does run until August and next year. That's what
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: the Democratic primaries. Why are they endorsing her now?
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Two reasons.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: One, they can start pounding her with money. Now, they
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: can start running all of their special interest money and
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: all of their spending on her behalf now. Secondly, so
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: much of this is a message to Mendela Barnes that
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Democrats do not want him to run. They think he's
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: the one Democrat who would lose. They're just telling Mendela,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: we're going to do everything possible to stop you. Don't
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: jump in. One other story here from Madison. This is
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: a pretty big story. Exact Systems is it's a biotech
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: pharmaceutical company.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: They're big. Their big product is one of.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Those tests that they do for colon cancer screening, colorectal exams,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: and so on, which if you're fifty years old, you're
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: supposed to have your kolidoscopy, you haven't had one. You're
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: supposed to have that. Everybody who knows that fifty people
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: seem to dread kolidoscopies. How many of you had thirty
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: seven of them by now? All the time is they're not.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: That big of a deal.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: People just don't like them because of the part of
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: the body that they're looking around in right.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: The under.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that anything in which they knock you out.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah fine, you want to you know, you want to
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: like do this? Yeah fine, do I get to get
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: knocked out?
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: You're just looking forward to.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: The weird thing about that kind of knockout, though, is
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: it's instantaneous, Like you don't like, get drowsy and go under.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: You're talking and then you wake up on another table
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: and when you wake up you're not really drowsy either.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: It's a weird thing. It's like a sa but it's
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: not like normal kind.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Of sleeping where you it gradually moves to this and
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: gradually moves. Let me get to the exact systems story.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: The first thing you know is go to a rest
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: up because you're a starvy. Well, you're a weirdo.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: That's the The first thing I want to know is
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: do I have can? What do you find when you
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: were poking around and mikeyster in there? Yeah, they have
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: the old line. Well, despite how much of it you had,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: you're still full of you know, it's Exact Systems. Anyway,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: twenty three billion dollar sale. Exact Systems have been sold
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: to Abbott. Abbot's a larger pharmaceutical company, so Exact Systems,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: the shareholders of that company are cashing outen Exact Systems
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: has been a growing pharmaceutical company based in Madison. This
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling Podcast.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: This is the Mark.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Belling Podcast, and it's time for our weekly football preview
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: and some point spread picks. I don't know what's happened
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: to me in those points spread picks, but I've got
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: a few minutes here. We're going to talk to Mike
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Burlett of American Sports Analysts at Madison first, and I
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: can use that time to rewire my brain, in which
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: just a spectacular season I was having has gone right
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: into the craft or anyway, we've got Mike Maurlette with us.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: We're winding into the really important part of the football season,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving us of course next week. About some football today, though, first, Mike,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: is there anything you'd like to share about the weekend
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: doings at ASA.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: I'd say just check us out on ASA wins dot
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: com tomorrow. We'll kind of know how many games we're
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: going to have for the weekend, all that kind of
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: stuff as we make our final decisions on Friday, So
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: just check the website for different packages, including our top
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: game package in college. I think we've won two or
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: three in a row now in college, so take a
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: look at that on Friday.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Give me one of them.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: ASA wins dot Com is their website. Let's preview some
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: football and we'll start as we usually will we do
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: with college football. There are two games left in the
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin season, and Wisconsin's going to be an underdog in
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: both of them. But unlike a lot of the games
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: they played this year, this one is one in which
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: they at least have a chance. On Saturday, they're going
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: to be at Campbrandle and they're going to host Illinois,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: a pretty good but not great team for the Big Ten.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: There's just a lot of storylines here. Brett Beilama back
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: in Madison, Wisconsin, with its incredible defense this year, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: as bad an offense as exists anywhere in college football
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: trying to beat a decent enough team. Give me your
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: thoughts in this game.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Well, you talked about as bad an offense as there
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: is in college football. Wisconsin currently ranks one hundred and
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: thirty fifth out of one hundred and thirty six teams
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: in scoring and total offense. So the only team that's
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: below them in both is UMass, who's easily the worst
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: team in the entire country. But I'll look at who Wisconsin's.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Wisconsin's probably played the toughest defensive opponents across the schedule
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: as any team in the country.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Which not another rating. Obviously, if you played a bunch
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: of terrible teams, you wouldn't be won.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Thirty fifth exactly. That's my point here. They've several the
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: last eight games have been against top twenty five defenses,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: and they've already played three of the top four defenses
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: in the entire country. So can they can they do
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: something different against Illinois, who's the fourth worst defense in
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: the in the Big Ten. So now they're playing a
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: defense that's down a few tiers. It's going to be
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: interesting to see ken Wisconsin do something on offense. If
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: they struggle again on offense, I mean they've gone, they've gone.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: They haven't topped three hundred yards of total offense since
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: Middle Tennessee on September sixth. We'll find out a lot
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: about how their offense is progressing this week, and they
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: should be able to move the ball against Dillanoi. If
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: they can't, then they're.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: But they don't have any running backs left now. Gideon Atuco,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: who is the number four running back, he's hurd I
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: mean the Wisconsin offense. I don't know if it's simply
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: because they've been so poor that so many guys are
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: getting injured, but they're down to third, fourth, and now
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: fifth stringers at some key positions.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: They are fifth string running back might get some carries
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: this week, and their third stringer Dupree played last week,
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: but he's not even close to one hundred percent, So
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: they only have two running backs available this weekend. I think, So,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't get it. It seems like Wisconsin's much
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: more injured than other teams. And it's not just this year.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: It's been the last two or three years. Across the
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: offensive line, quarterbacks, running backs, it seems like they have
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: a ton of injuries. I don't know if that's just
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: bad luck or or either not training correctly or what the
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: deal is, but that's been a thing that's gone on
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: since Fickle's been here.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: One other team game to focus on in college football
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: is also from the Big Ten. This game used to
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: be a game in the Pac Ten, but now it's
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: in the Big Ten, and I think it's the most
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: interesting other game of the weekend.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: USC is at Oregon.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Neither of these teams have much of a chance to
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: get into the Big Ten title game because Ohio State
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and Indiana are both unbeaten and they don't play one another.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: But Oregon has just the one loss in the league
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: and USC is a team that is kind of on
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: the fringe of still getting a chance to get into
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: the twelve team college football playoff. Oregon is favored in
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: the game by nine and a half at Oregon, but
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: you have two really good teams. Oregon's lost one game
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: this year and USC has lost two.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: They both are in the Ten. It's a pretty fat
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: point spread, and there's a perception I guess that Oregon's
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: that much better than USC. Do you think they are?
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: You know, at home, Oregon's awfully good. They're twenty four
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: and two at home since Landing took over. But they
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: did lose to Indiana this year. That seems like a
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: halfty number. Let's put it this way. If it was
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: ten or ten and a half, I might consider USC.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a huge game playoff wise for both teams.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: The rankings came out for the playoffs this week again
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: the new rankings, Oregon was seventh and USC was fifteenth,
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: so just outside.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so if Oregon loses, they could fall out of
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: the top twelve, but maybe USC could move into it.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And if USC wins out, I think they're in
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: because USC beats Oregon here. Then they play Ucla next week,
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: which they'll be a.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Happy they'll destroy them. That's a cross city battle, but
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Ucla is terrible.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: They'll kill them.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is their game. I mean, if they
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: win this game, they're probably in the playoffs. Oregon same situation.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: If Oregon loses this, they'll have two losses and then
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: they play at Washington next week, which is not going
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: to be easy. So they got a much tougher route.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Should be a great game. One thing to note on
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: this game, they've gone back you mentioned back to the
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: PAC twelve, but the outright winner in this game. So
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: if you just pick the winner, they've covered thirteen to
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: the last fourteen meetings. So just pick who you think
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: is going to win the game historically, and that's who
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: covers in this game. Landing's been good at home seventeen
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: to nine against the spread since he took over, but
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: USC since Riley took over, has been seventy percent as
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: an underdog. Just a great game. I think it's going
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: to be. It's gonna be a fun watch this weekend.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: When I was doing well in these picks, I had
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: the first two weeks of the season, I picked USC
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: and one both times I really thought about it as
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: my hon air pick here getting the nine and a half.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: If it was ten, I'd do.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: It, yep.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: But I'm not going to do it at nine and
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: a half because when you're feeling snake bitch, that half
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: point just might kill you. I mean, you're right, Oregon
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: is very very good at home. I think that these
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: teams are really close, though I also know I was
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: an opponent of expanding the college football playoff beyond two
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: teams what it was four epsite opponent of expanding it,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: and I really despise it now because it's killing the
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: regular season. It's killing conference is nobody's even paying attention
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: to who's winning a conference?
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Are you in? Are you win? Are you in? Or
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: are you you in?
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: And in the meantime, they've got these rankings that come
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: out each week, and I think they're completely screwed up
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: when you talk when they're talking about Tulane being on
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the bubble of getting into this and then one of
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: USC or Oregon not getting in. They've expanded all of us,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: supposedly to end all of these arguments, and they just
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: made the arguments. I think words, let's turn our attention
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: over to the NFL right now, and I think one
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: of the obvious games to focus on is the Green
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Bay game. The Packers play the Vikings in a game
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: in which Minnesota is probably one of the more disappointing
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: teams in the NFL this year. The only thing that
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I would give them any credit on is they're in
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: a tough division, the NFC North, and one team has
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: to you know, it's the same thing in the NFC West.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Somebody's got to be bad.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: When all of those teams are in the same division,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: somebody's got to take some losses, and Minnesota seems to
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: be that team. Green Bay continues to win. They're six
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: to three and one. They just don't pass the eye test.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Last week they were favored by seven, they won by seven.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: The Packers are favored this week by about six and
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: a half against Minnesota. Minnesota's got terrible quarterback problems. I mean,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're willing to admit it yet,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: but I just think that choosing JJ McCarthy with the
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: twelve pick in the draft a couple of years ago
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: is an absolute mistake. So you got a bad quarterback
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: in situation with Minnesota, But otherwise Minnesota may match green
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Bay for talent everywhere else other than the quarterback position.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: What do you think about the game?
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this line opened five and a half and it's
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: up to six and a half. You mentioned about green
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: Bay doesn't pass the eye test. The Packers, as far
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: as the spread goes, have been completely overvalued over the
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: last two months. They're one in seven against the spread
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: their last eight games, and if you look at the
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: season as a whole, when they're a favorite of more
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: than three points. They're zero to six against the spread
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Green Bays this year, so they're overvalued right now. You
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: talked about the Vikings quarterback situation. McCarthy's bad. I mean,
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: he's played maybe one good half the entire season. He's
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: last in completion percentage. He doesn't qualify for the QBR rating.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: He hasn't played enough, but he'd be dead last in that.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Green Bay has to get some turnovers. This is the week.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: They had seventeen interceptions last year. They have five this year.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Well, they dropped five last week.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Now, they won the game because they got a really
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: great pick at the end of the game, but they
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: dropped a zillion. I mean, that's the reason the turnover
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: margin is what it is. They're dropping the turnovers that
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: they're able to get. If the defensive backs and hang
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: out of the balls that are being thrown into their hands,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: the turnover.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Margin would be higher. But you are right, it.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Is set up for turnovers. The Packers have a very
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: good pass rush and McCarthy has really struggled at quarterback,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: which should help the Packers have a chance to get
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: a couple of interceptions.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean He's sawing at least two interceptions and
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: three of his five starts, So if green Bay doesn't
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: get an interception, they're going to have their opportunities this week.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: I would say I'm away. I'm not in on this
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: game at all. Green Bay should win this by a
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: touchdown or more. They really should. With their offense, is
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: that much better than the Vikings defense is better statistically,
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: all the Vikings have a decent defense, But I don't
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: trust the Packers. There's no way family in six and
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: a half of the three. Now.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: The Packers have benefited from getting Christian Watson back, but
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: he's one of several wide receivers and the loss of
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Tucker Craft.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: They're just a different team that went from yeah, maybe.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: The best tight end and all of football to as
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: bad a tight end play as there is. I mean,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Musgrave has not stepped up at all. A couple of
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: other guys that have been there catch a pass here
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: and there the other game this weekend. I think this
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: is one of the most interesting games of the season.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Indianapolis is playing Kansas City. Kansas City in real jeopardy
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: of missing the playoffs. Indianapolis is the number one ranked
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: offense in the entire National Football League and as a
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: spectacular record. Despite that, despite the fact that Kansas City
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: is only five and five and Indianapolis is destroying teams,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs are favored by three and a half at home.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: That line is clearly telling us something. I've watched almost
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: all the games Kansas City has played, and I know
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: they're five and five. I look at them and they
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: look to me better than they did last year when
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: they went to the Super Bowl. I mean, talk about
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: the eye test.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: Visually, they look really good.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: And you know, they've been winning ugly the last couple
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: of years, and now they're if you can lose pretty,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: they're losing pretty. Indianapolis, in the meantime, has a tremendous
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: offense and not much of a defense. They go into
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Kansas City and what's really a must win game for
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They can't fall the five and six.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: No, this is a much much bigger game for Kansas City.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: And here are some stats for remark. You hit it
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: right on the head. Okay, So Kansas City has a
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: better stats this year yards per play, yards per game,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: points per game allowed, points per game scored than they
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: did last year when they were fifteen and two. Here's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: an interesting stat for you. This puts it in perspective.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: Last year they finished the year fifteen and two and
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: their point differential was plus fifty nine points with a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: fifteen and two record. This year, they're five and five
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: and their point differentials plus seventy three.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: So they've outscored the opponents more already this year than
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: all of last year when they went fifteen and two,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: even though they're five and five. Another and the only
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: way that can happen is you lose a lot of
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: close games and when you win, you kill the opponent.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Well, there you go. Last year, Kansas City was twelve
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: and zero in one score games. This year they're zer
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: one to five and one score games. They went from
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: the best close game team to the worst close game
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: team in one year. They've lost two games. Here's a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: couple of interesting stats too. They've lost two games in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: a row. Mahomes has never lost three games straight in
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: his NFL career as a starter. Never never happened. So
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: that's an interesting point. Indies. Really, I think Indy's good.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know how good they are because six of
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: their eight wins have come against Tennessee twice Arizona at
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Land in Las Vegas, Miami. Those teams have a combined
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: thirteen wins. Between those six teams all our three games,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: the low five hundred are better, and against teams that
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: are five hundred are better. Colts are two and two
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: this year. We'll find out this week. This is a huge,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: huge game for Kansas City, which is why they're favored
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: by a little bit more than three.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I mean everything that you mentioned, all the oddsmakers are
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: clearly aware of, and the betting public I think is
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: aware of it as well. It's just unusual they have
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: a team that's got so much better of a record
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: to be that large of an underdog other than everyone
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: is of the perception, and we'll find out if it's correct.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: The Indianapolis is nowhere near as good as this record,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: and Kansas City is way better than the record that
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: they have. Time for some points spread picks, Oh my goodness.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: I thought South Florida would beat maybe by more than ten.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: They lost the game.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe somehow put up forty one points. I don't know
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: where that came from. They beat South Florida forty one
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: to thirty eight. So I was six and two in
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: this contest. I'm now six and six. Paul took the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers to beat the Cardinals by more than three,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: and they beat him by nineteen, so that was a win.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: And Mike took Michigan State to cover a seven and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: a half point spread against Penn State, and that didn't
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: work out. Penn State, which is finally awakened and is
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: back to the team that people thought was a top
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: five team in the country in the preseason polls. They
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: won that game by eighteen. All right, let's get to
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: some point spread picks for this weekend. Paul, you get
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: to go first, the Bears and the Steelers. Now, Paul
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: usually takes games I don't have an opinion on. I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: studied this game inside out and upside down, and I'm
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: not going to make a pick on it. But I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: will tell you that the point spread is two and
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: a half. The game is in Chicago. We're talking about
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Kansas City.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: That two and a half.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: The Bears are favored by two and a half. We
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: talked about how Kansas City keeps losing all of these
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: games that they seem to win. This should be in
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: a position to win. The Bears have come from behind
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: in the last two minutes. Five weeks in a row,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: they're plus fourteen in turnovers. There are so many times
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: that the Bears have seasons like this. I think about
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl year, the year that they went to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and lost to Indy, they ran every
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: kick back for a touchdown. That's when Devin Hester was
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: freaking out. They had numerous pickstand a tremendous turnover ratio.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: I talk about the eye test. The Bears just didn't
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: look that good that year. They just seem to have
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: seasons like this. Now they play Pittsburgh with Rogers banged up.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: I think he's still listed as questionable game time decision.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Now you have the thing of Aaron Rodgers, as I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: think he pointed out when he's wearing a Green Bay
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: uniform that he claims.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: To own the Bears.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: You started talking, well, yeah, I think that that ownership
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: might have had something to do with the uniform that
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: he was wearing at the time.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: That he can't just PLoP it on and claim that ownership.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I thought a lot about picking the Bears, and
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: that's I want to hear Paul's point, and in the end,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: I've decided that I'm going to stay away from the game.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: It just seems at some point these things even out
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: and the Bear's luck has to wear out. But I
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: think it's actually a better situation for Chicago than it
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: is for Pittsburgh, with Rogers being banged up, Chicago playing
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: at home, et cetera. Paul's is Mason Rudolph's the backup
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: quarterback Pittsburgh. The thing it is is that Rogers is
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: the best quarterback they've had over there since Ben Roethlisberger,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: and their backups aren't that good.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: They're six and four, So where are we going? Paul?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Seven of eight they won momentum. You know that of
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: those seven that they won, they probably should have lost
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: six of them. They then why are you taking them?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Paul said, they are the real deal. It will seal
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: their legitimacy. I kind of agree with Paul, but I'm
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: not sure.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: What do you think, Mike?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: I man Chicago is in their seven wins, they're plus
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: twenty turnovers. That's insane, that's unheard of. That's plus three
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: a game. You don't lose games in the NFL when
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: you're plus three turnovers. It's almost impossible. That's why they've
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: won seven games in a row or seven games.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Part of that, though it needs to be credited to
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams for not throwing picks.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: True, can they keep doing that? I mean, Pittsburgh's kind
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: of the same. Last week is a close game against Cincinnati.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: They get an eighty yard pick six and then a
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: fumble recovery for a touchdown.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: They were won by twenty two, but it was really
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: a more even game.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: You're right, So they're kind of the same type of teams. Man,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: I have no Chicago. If Chicago evers even or lose
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: the turnover battle, they're they're gonna get smoked at some point.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: But they keep doing it, so at some point you
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: have to say, are they going to keep doing that?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: They that might be the case. No opinion this game whatsoever.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a weird schedule in the NFL. The Packers
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: still have their two games of Chicago. They're backloaded at
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: the end of the season, and they played just a
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks apart at the end of the season,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: and that's going to determine whether or not not only
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: green Bay wins the division, but perhaps whether or not
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: green Bay makes the playoffs or Chicago makes the playoffs. Sorry,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: time to get a pick from Mike. Where are we going?
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: Let's go, Let's go to college. I'm gonna go a
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: Friday night game. Actually first, Hawaii at UNLV on Friday.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of an interesting game. Hawaii is finally
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: good again. Their quarterback whether their coach is the guy
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: who was the quarterback the last time they were good,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Timmy Chang. They've been winning a lot of games. UNLV
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: had a coaching change in the offseason, but they got
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: a pretty big name coach over there on Dan Mullen,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: and they've played pretty good.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: They're probably two of the four.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Best teams in the Mountain in West Conference. I'm seeing
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: all of this stuff because I'm stalling because I can't here.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: It is. UNLV is at home. It's always an odd
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: place you un be at home. They usually have more
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: opponent fans that are there, but probably not this time
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: because the opponent is Hawaii. That's a weird thing. Hawaiian's going. Well,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: if you're in Hawaii, where would you go on vacation?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Probably Las Vegas, right, Yeah, I mean you don't think
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: of people who live in Hawaii going on vacation because
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: they're in the place. But the same thing I guess
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: is true about Las Vegas. When people live in Las Vegas,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: where do they go? They can't go to Vegas because
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: they're already all right, what you Vegas is an UNLV
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: is favored by three points of the game.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: I'm taking Hawaii plus three in that game.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hawaii's they're pretty good.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: I'm that usual program because obviously travels an issue over there.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Recruiting is a mixed bag. They're not part of any
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: area where there's any football strength. On the other hand,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: when a kid gets an offer to go tuition free
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: to a college and play Major Division one college football.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Why is that?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I might pick Hawaii over hanging
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: around and say at Minnesota or Iowa City. So they're
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: pretty good team this year. But UNLV isn't bad either.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I want to hear your reasons for taking Hawaii.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Hawaii's batter team this year. They're definitely better in
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: the situation is perfect. Hawaii had a week off last week,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: so they had two weeks to get ready for this
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: game prior to the bye week at home against San
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: Diego State, who is the best team in the Mountain One,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: one of.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: The est defenses in America. They're really good on defense.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: Hawaii beat San Diego State thirty eight to six.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: The fact that you were going on thirty eight on
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: the defense is to be impressive.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: And their offense has been good, and they held their
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: offense down. The Hawaii's undervalue. They've won five games this
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: year as an underdog outright, so they continue to be undervalued.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Take a look at UNLV's got a good record, but
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: take a look at their home games. They haven't won
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: a home game by more than seven. In the Mountain West,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: they beat Air Force, who's bad, by three. They lost
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: to New Mexico. And last week they beat Utah State
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: and double overtime by three, who's not good. Now they
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: play in a short week, playing on Friday. Hawaii had
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: a bye last week. Hawaii's defense, the offenses are close.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: They're both over four hundred yards. UNLV has a little edge.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Hawaii's defense is one hundred yards per game better than UNLV's.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: I think Hawaii wins this game out right, So I'm
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: gonna take plus three in that game.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's an interesting pick.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: That game is, as Mike said Friday night, and it's
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: a later start, as you might guess, but not too late,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: because I've lost four games on a O I'm scrambling
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: in every idea that I have. I'm kind of second
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: guess again. I mentioned a couple of the games that
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: I thought about a lot. In fact, I'm not going
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: to take this game, but the other game that I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: was going to ask Mike about in our preview, and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: I chose a different game instead. I think it's a
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: really good game tonight, the Thursday night game full of
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: plays Houston. Houston started zero to three and they've been
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: outstanding since then. Their defense is really really good. In
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: the meantime, Buffalo's offense is spectacular. The line is five
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: and a half. I was really thinking about taking Houston
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: in the game. Davis Mills is going to be the
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: quarterback because but Strouds missed two games already and they
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: won with him. Anyway, I just moved against it. And
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: the following pick is I kind of hinted at it earlier.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: There are several divisions in which if you're one of
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: four teams and the other three teams are great, you know,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: it's really hard for four teams to have a winning
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: record in a division because there's so many teams that
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: play one another. I'm looking at Arizona, a team that's
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: three and seven, and I'm going to take them as
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: a three point underdog against Jacksonville. Now, Jacksonville's in a
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: conference that isn't all that strong itself once you get
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: past Indianapolis, but I admit they've played a decent enough
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: schedule the Jaguars have, and they've scored a lot of points.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: I just think that Arizona at three and se maybe
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: better than people think. And I've got somewhere in here
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: they're scheduled it I should rattle I have it or not.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't, But the schedule that Arizona has played,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: they're playing an outstanding team every week, and they're playing
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: the best offenses in the NFL. They lost last week
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: in the game that Paul mentioned, but San Francisco is
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: really good. I think this is a bigger game for
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: them than it is for Jacksonville. Maybe Arizona's already out
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: of it and they don't have a chance here, but
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: this is a team that's finally in a position with
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: a beatable opponent. Jacksonville's won a few games this year,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: but two three points and maybe sitting on a loss
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: and I just like the fact that Arizona is getting
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: the full three points at home against the Jaguars, and
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: I think that the Cardinals I'm not saying. I do
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: have the listing over here. I want to quickly rattle
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: through who Arizona's played, and you understand whether three and seven.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: This is going backwards, starting with last week and going
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: backward after that. San Francisco, Seattle, Ellis, Green Bay, Indianapolis,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: an easy game against Tennessee and before that Seattle, San
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Francisco again and then starting the season with Carolina New Orleans.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: New Orleans is not that.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Cool, but that's just they're playing a lot of really
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: good teams. Also, the backup quarterback Presette looks like he's
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: going to play again.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: He threw last.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Week and the game the pulpic were set through for
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty two yards. Now, part of that
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: is they were behind, so they're a passing every play
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: but throwing for four hundred and fifty two yards against
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: the defense like San Francisco, even though the score was lopsided.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: There's something to be said for that. And I think
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: that Arizona's going to win the game outright. It's of
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: all the games that I had out there. It's the
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  Speaker 2: one I guess I feel most confident, in part because
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting the three point pad.
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  Speaker 3: Any thoughts in that game, Mike, Well, I agreed.
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  Speaker 4: With you last week and we didn't use it, but
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  Speaker 4: that game law, So maybe you don't want me to
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  Speaker 4: agree with you, but I agree this is a game
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  Speaker 4: we're strongly considering this week with Arizona. First of all,
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  Speaker 4: if you looked at it, I know, I know there
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  Speaker 4: are comments from behind, But if you looked at the
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  Speaker 4: final stats last week, I know had Paul had San Francisco,
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  Speaker 4: but Arizona had four hundred and eighty eight yards to
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  Speaker 4: two hundred and eighty for San Francis. Right, they got up,
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  Speaker 4: gained by well over two hundred yards and won the
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  Speaker 4: game by almost twenty I don't know if I've ever
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  Speaker 4: seen that. In the NFL, Arizona five of their seven
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  Speaker 4: losses has come by four points or less. Jacksonville is
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  Speaker 4: coming off a huge win against the Chargers, which wasn't
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  Speaker 4: a great spot Chargers going across the country. There's no
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  Speaker 4: way on land points on the road with Jacksonville. Don't
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  Speaker 4: think they're that good. To be honest with you, and
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  Speaker 4: I agree, I think Arizona is a good chance to
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  Speaker 4: win this game.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, those are our selections. Recapping real quickly, Paul. It's
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  Speaker 2: hard to argue against Paul because the Bears keep winning.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if the Bears are down by four points
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  Speaker 2: with a minute of ten seconds left in the game,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even care if they have the ball, They're
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  Speaker 2: going to get a touchdown and win the game by
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  Speaker 2: three points. So they're gonna it's they're doing every single
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  Speaker 2: single week. Posts they finally got a coach, but they
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  Speaker 2: are winning games that they've been all played for fifty
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  Speaker 2: eight minutes. It just it's true. Part of me kind
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  Speaker 2: of hopes, and eventually teams like that get their come
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  Speaker 2: up and often it's the end the postseason when a
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  Speaker 2: team that over it, like the ven Vikings a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years ago were overachieving the turnover margin and knocked
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  Speaker 2: out of the playoffs. I'm hoping their come upance is
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  Speaker 2: that they get beaten twice by.
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  Speaker 3: The Packers later out of the season.
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  Speaker 2: But the way the injuries are going in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: who even knows what will happen by them.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Paul's taking that pick. I guess I agree.
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  Speaker 2: With him, but I just worry that the Bear's luck's gonna,
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  Speaker 2: you know, wear down. In one week, Mike takes Hawaii
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  Speaker 2: to either beat UNLV or lose by three or less,
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  Speaker 2: and I have the same point spread getting three points
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  Speaker 2: as I take Arizona against Jacksonville any of the Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: to win or lose by less than three points. That's
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