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What Blake Shelton Said About THIS Artist May Surprise You! · Inside Country with Wayne D

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  Speaker 1: I've got the give makeup.
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  Speaker 2: Neon sign back here, I've got the hairs YouTube whatever
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  Speaker 2: that is.
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  Speaker 1: Back there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in Gwen's Zoom studio here, so listen before we dive,
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  Speaker 2: before we dive into you got new music, You got
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  Speaker 2: a new team behind you, which is so exciting.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta say, I've done radio for over twenty years,
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  Speaker 3: country radio full time since twenty seventeen. This is the
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  Speaker 3: first time I've got to interview you, and I've been
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  Speaker 3: a fan for so long, so I was looking forward
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  Speaker 3: to this.
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  Speaker 1: Man, my god, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Man. Well you're so busy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here. Man, good to meet you.
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  Speaker 3: What has that relationship been like for you on a
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  Speaker 3: professional level, because obviously you've been massively successful doing your thing,
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  Speaker 3: Gwen massively successful doing her thing. But has like crazy
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  Speaker 3: inspiration come from that relationship or maybe thinking musically creative
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  Speaker 3: differently that maybe you and have with eug Winn in
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  Speaker 3: your life.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, it's it's kind of changed over the years.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it blows my mind when and I have
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  Speaker 2: been together close to ten years now, and and it
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  Speaker 2: just that time just flew by.
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  Speaker 1: For us, you know, And.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even remember what the conversations used to be
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  Speaker 2: about music. To be honest with you, I know that
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  Speaker 2: that lately it's they've.
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  Speaker 1: Turned into more.
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  Speaker 2: Conversations of, hey, you think I should you think I
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  Speaker 2: should keep doing this? Or do I look stupid now
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  Speaker 2: if I keep trying to make records or you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, It is like when when is it?
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  Speaker 1: When is it time to go?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know you know how honest artists are on
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  Speaker 2: a show like this, but man, I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, at this point you start saying to friends
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  Speaker 2: around you, uh, you know when you see artists doing
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  Speaker 2: things that you go, oh my god, that's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit cringey. Please don't ever let me do that. Please,
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  Speaker 2: for the love of God, if you ever see me
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  Speaker 2: get on stage and do this or that. And so
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  Speaker 2: Gwen is my person and I try to be that
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  Speaker 2: for her too, although she's timeless. But for me, it's like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: if you ever if it ever starts looking pathetic, or
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  Speaker 2: if I'm completely out in left field and nobody gets it,
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  Speaker 2: will you please be the voice that says Blake, it's hey,
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  Speaker 2: let's you should just go fishing from here on out.
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  Speaker 1: That the music's not happening anymore, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the kind of conversations I swear that at
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  Speaker 2: least I have with her. You know, she's been really encouraging,
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  Speaker 2: especially you know, the last eight months or a year,
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  Speaker 2: because after I've retired from the Voice, I just kind
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  Speaker 2: of I have been kind of out of no man's
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  Speaker 2: land and and lost a little bit as far as
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  Speaker 2: what I want to do next, or if I even
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  Speaker 2: want to do anything next, you know, which, of course
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 1: It just took some time.
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  Speaker 2: To to just have a breather and and just clear
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  Speaker 2: my mind for a while.
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  Speaker 1: The Voice was a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It was the greatest thing I've ever gotten to do
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  Speaker 2: from a career standpoint, but it also takes a lot
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  Speaker 2: out of you when you do it as long as
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  Speaker 2: I did, you know, two seasons of years for twelve years.
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  Speaker 2: It just kind of sucks it out of you, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Was that tough to Well? First, let me say we
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  Speaker 3: got to see you and Gwen, my co host Tay
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  Speaker 3: and I were some of the behind the scenes hosts
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  Speaker 3: of CMA Fest. So it's awesome to see you guys
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  Speaker 3: kind of doing your thing, and and she, my co host,
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  Speaker 3: never has an embarrassing moment. But as Gwenn and y'all
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  Speaker 3: rolled by on your golf cart after the show and
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  Speaker 3: she yells you're an icon, and I'm like, don't yell
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  Speaker 3: stuff at art crazy pants over here. But obviously you
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  Speaker 3: were there with Post before we dive into the new song,
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  Speaker 3: and I want to talk more on where you're at
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  Speaker 3: career wise. This Post Malone relationship with country music has
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  Speaker 3: been so unique because there's people that have dipped their
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  Speaker 3: toe in, right and I'm not and nobody specific, but
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  Speaker 3: there's people that have dipped their toe in and then
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  Speaker 3: Posts didn't want to put out a country record his way.
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  Speaker 3: He wanted to put out a country record. He came
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  Speaker 3: to Nashville, He's met with the artists, He's created these
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  Speaker 3: relationships which really look like more friendships and brotherhoods and
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  Speaker 3: sisterhoods and anything. Why in your eyes, has the way
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  Speaker 3: Post Malone approach country music been made it successful for him?
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  Speaker 1: Well? I think.
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  Speaker 2: In the case of Post Malone, the guy has absolutely
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  Speaker 2: worked his ass off to show his appreciation for the genre, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the the industry itself, the artists, the songwriters that and
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  Speaker 2: he's proven that he's willing to put.
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  Speaker 1: The work in, you know, and and and.
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  Speaker 2: As easy as it would be to go, you know,
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  Speaker 2: his album's out now, he's had two number one hits,
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  Speaker 2: and and he's the it's done, it's he won, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and the guy it's still This last weekend was UH
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  Speaker 2: in Nashville. I saw him at the Country Music Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame helping UH induct Toby Keith with me. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, he doesn't he's still putting in.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even call it the work. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: just doing what he wants to do. I truly think
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  Speaker 2: that post Malone isn't isn't trying to do country music.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's finally getting to do country music, which
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  Speaker 2: is which is probably what he's always wanted to do,
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  Speaker 2: or other thing that he's always wanted to do. It's
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  Speaker 2: not just a side project. I personally think the guys
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  Speaker 2: here to stay. I mean he's never said that.
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  Speaker 1: To me, but.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he he's an absolute fan of of country music.
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  Speaker 2: And there's there's no questioning that anybody that questions that
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  Speaker 2: they're not paying attention.
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  Speaker 3: You had mentioned a couple of minutes ago in our
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  Speaker 3: chat here you were in a spot UH career wise,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you had wrapped up the voice you were
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  Speaker 3: you were like, man, this has been a lot. Uh
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  Speaker 3: you did you weren't sure what you wanted to do musically?
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  Speaker 3: What was the defining point like, Okay, here's the piece
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  Speaker 3: I was missing to say, yeah, I'm ready to get
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  Speaker 3: back on the horse.
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  Speaker 2: Well I credit Post for for that a lot, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as far as not not exactly the the missing piece,
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  Speaker 2: but definitely the jolt I needed and the reminder. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's you start wondering, you know, how relevant you even
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  Speaker 2: are anymore?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, as an.
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  Speaker 2: Artist, you can't help but go through these things, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And and when I got the call to that postwarted
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  Speaker 2: me to come sing on the record, it was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh wow, I can't even believe he thought of me,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And then when the song came out and
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  Speaker 2: was a big record, and it was just such a
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  Speaker 2: fun thing to be a part of and not having
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  Speaker 2: to put the work in.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's doing all the work.
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  Speaker 2: So I just get to be a tag along and
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  Speaker 2: watch this thing go up the charts. And but by
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  Speaker 2: doing that, though, it helped me take in what was happening.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know, when you're in the grind, and man,
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  Speaker 2: I was for twenty years where you're just you can't
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  Speaker 2: take time to look up and enjoy the moment when
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  Speaker 2: you have boys around here and you're still a role
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  Speaker 2: doing these records and they're coming and going because you're
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  Speaker 2: on to the next.
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  Speaker 1: One before you know, before you know it.
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  Speaker 2: And so being able to kind of take a back
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  Speaker 2: seat and watch that song do what it did and
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  Speaker 2: get text messages from friends and family and said, man,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell you know? H It was fun to
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  Speaker 2: take that in for once, you know, and it really
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  Speaker 2: did kind of a lot of fire under me again
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  Speaker 2: and made me want to, you know, stick my neck
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  Speaker 2: out again and make another record and see what I
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  Speaker 2: could come up with.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I tell you, country radio has missed you, and
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  Speaker 3: we're excited for this new song.
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  Speaker 1: Man. Thank you, man, thank you absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And I got to tell you as a as a
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  Speaker 3: country music fan, and then obviously I get to work
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  Speaker 3: in the country radio side of things. You have a
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  Speaker 3: very strong team that believes in their people behind you.
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  Speaker 3: So it's I can't wait to see what y'all do together.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, Man, I'm this chapter is.
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  Speaker 2: I told Gwen, she goes you seem different. I go,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like a new artist again for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's the only way I know to describe it.
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  Speaker 2: So I appreciate you saying that.
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  Speaker 3: Man, we get the new song to country radio coming
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  Speaker 3: up on the fifteenth of November. It's called Texas. Give
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  Speaker 3: us the backstory on the song, and I'd imagine you
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  Speaker 3: have more than this song sitting there, So backstory on
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  Speaker 3: the song, and then what made this the one that
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  Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, this will be my I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to call it a reintroduction, but like, you know, my,
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  Speaker 3: that's fair.
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  Speaker 2: I actually like I like how that sounds a reintroduction.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the song is totally different than That's probably
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  Speaker 2: not true.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Since I've started, I've tried every album. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I've ever had an album that sounded like the last album,
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  Speaker 2: and that's been by design.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I've kind of been all over the map just because
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  Speaker 2: I've wanted to be. But Texas is another step up
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  Speaker 2: in a different direction. I guess if there was anything
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  Speaker 2: you could kind of compare it to would be Sangria
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  Speaker 2: that I had out years ago.
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  Speaker 1: But I really don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've heard people say that, but I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it's it's quite a bit different than Sangria, but
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like melodically and the story, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's your typical the dude got dumped and has
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  Speaker 2: no clue where he's a girl went kind of country song,
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  Speaker 2: but melodically and rhythmically, it's it's just totally different than
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  Speaker 2: anything I've done. And it's just all about fun. You know,
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  Speaker 2: this song is truly just a fun song. I love
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  Speaker 2: all the George Strait references in this in this song
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  Speaker 2: because you know that you can't brag on the King enough.
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  Speaker 3: Hey man, absolutely, obviously this this will be the latest
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  Speaker 3: song that we've gotten from you in a while. And
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  Speaker 3: I heard an interview you did. I mean, I want
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  Speaker 3: to say it might have been right around the pandemic
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  Speaker 3: a little before a little after, but you had mentioned
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  Speaker 3: that you're enjoying making a song and putting it out,
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  Speaker 3: making a song and putting it out versus like focus
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  Speaker 3: focusing on a full project. Are you Are you in
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  Speaker 3: a different place mentally? Are you looking forward to a
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  Speaker 3: full project or is it like now I'm gonna make
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  Speaker 3: a song, put it out. I'll give you another one
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  Speaker 3: in a couple of months.
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  Speaker 1: Put it out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean, look, I would love to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think from a from a record company standpoint
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  Speaker 2: that they're interested in doing that.
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  Speaker 1: So I think they.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, hey, if we're doing all this, we need
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  Speaker 2: a whole record, which is understandable. You know, I've been
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  Speaker 2: recording now for you know, throughout this journey.
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  Speaker 1: And and if they told me next week, hey, we.
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  Speaker 2: Need you to turn in the album, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: have enough music recorded now to put an album together.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to keep going for a few more
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  Speaker 2: months here and see what else we can come up with.
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  Speaker 2: I I want to make this record right up until
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  Speaker 2: they say, hey, time's up. We gotta we got to
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  Speaker 2: start printing these things and do a photo shoot and
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  Speaker 2: stuff and get it out, you know. So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: work on it until then. But man, I've got I've got,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of stuff that I'm super proud of.
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  Speaker 2: And and when I went in and had this meeting
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  Speaker 2: with with bn G Records and told them, you know that,
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  Speaker 2: I think I want to take another hard swing at
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  Speaker 2: this thing. I played them, I think I only played
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  Speaker 2: them three songs, and and they seem pretty excited about
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  Speaker 2: all all three of them, you know, and and uh
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  Speaker 2: so it's that's exciting to hear Texas is one of
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  Speaker 2: the songs. But I have several things that I've cut
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  Speaker 2: that I'm if they would have said, no, we want
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  Speaker 2: to put this other one out first, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: would have been pretty excited about that too. So it's
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  Speaker 2: it's just a good, good overall feeling, and I feel
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  Speaker 2: fire up again.
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  Speaker 1: I really do.
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  Speaker 3: I love talking to artists, especially artists as established as
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  Speaker 3: you are with the I mean, you could do you
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  Speaker 3: got your Vegas residency coming up, right, Like you could
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  Speaker 3: just literally bang out the hits and then head up
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  Speaker 3: to the penthouse and go to bed, right. So it's
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  Speaker 3: awesome that you continue to make new music. But with
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  Speaker 3: those big hits, I love getting stories about songs that
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  Speaker 3: you didn't believe in or maybe somebody else push you
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  Speaker 3: got to do this and it worked. So what are
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  Speaker 3: those What is that song or songs for you that
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  Speaker 3: you're like, man, I can't believe y'all like this one,
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  Speaker 3: but okay, here it is.
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  Speaker 2: I think probably the best examples of that for me,
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  Speaker 2: we're both on my first album one I Believe It
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  Speaker 2: or Not.
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  Speaker 1: Austin was a song that the label.
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  Speaker 2: Debbies Avidson, who worked at Giant Records at the time,
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  Speaker 2: signed me. And she played me Austin and I kind
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  Speaker 2: of thought, well, that's a cool story song, but I
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  Speaker 2: just don't think anybody's gonna care. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's like the song just every chorus is different, and
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  Speaker 2: are people.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna follow along?
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  Speaker 2: And I just had a hard time believing anyone would
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  Speaker 2: pay that close attention to a lyric and man, was
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  Speaker 2: I wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, she.
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  Speaker 2: Kept after me, and finally she's The demo that I
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  Speaker 2: had of the song was a piano like a piano vocal,
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  Speaker 2: and it felt very dramatic, and she said, why don't
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  Speaker 2: you just take the song and learn it your way
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  Speaker 2: and make it yours, learn it on guitar, make it
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  Speaker 2: more of a guitar song. And so I did, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll never forget. I called my sister back in the
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  Speaker 2: day and I just laid the phone down. This is
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  Speaker 2: back in probably not two thousand or nineteen ninety nine,
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  Speaker 2: somewhere in there, and and I just laid the phone
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  Speaker 2: down and I played her Austen with my guitar, and
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  Speaker 2: I picked up the phone and she was like freaking out.
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  Speaker 2: She said I'm oh my god, that's the best song
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  Speaker 2: you've ever done, Like, I can't believe you.
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  Speaker 1: That's your song. And I was like, oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Debbie was right, you know. And then the flip side
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  Speaker 1: of that was.
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  Speaker 2: Was old Red, which at the time that was also
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  Speaker 2: on my first album, and Austin had come out and
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  Speaker 2: was a big record, and it was a shocker to
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  Speaker 2: all of us really because I was on a record
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  Speaker 2: company called Giant Records and the label folded and Austin
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  Speaker 2: kind of withstood a lot of turmoil and became this
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  Speaker 2: big hit anyway. And so the label at that time
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  Speaker 2: was Warner Records, inherited me from Giant when they closed,
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  Speaker 2: and we put out another single called all.
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  Speaker 1: Over Me that didn't do that well.
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  Speaker 2: And I went into the label and I said, I
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  Speaker 2: think we should put out this song, Oldred, because as
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  Speaker 2: people by the album and they come to my shows,
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  Speaker 2: that is the other song people want to hear you,
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  Speaker 2: Austin and old Red. Like I'm hearing a lot about it.
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  Speaker 2: People are throwing stuffed animals of dogs on stage, you
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  Speaker 2: know when I sing and and I had to talk
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  Speaker 2: them into it, and then I had to beg them
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  Speaker 2: to do a video, and they just didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: spend the money and they just weren't sure. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just a prison song, you know, like a dog
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  Speaker 2: in a prison like that. We're just at a time
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  Speaker 2: when country radio was very positive and love songs, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and very upbeat pop sound and music. I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to put out Old Red, but and honestly, it didn't
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  Speaker 2: do that well on radio. People are always surprised to
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  Speaker 2: know Old Red wasn't even a top ten song at radio,
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  Speaker 2: but it went on to be made arguably one of
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  Speaker 2: my bigger, you know, signature songs, and and and it
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  Speaker 2: definitely you know, sold a lot of records and so
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  Speaker 2: it did.
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  Speaker 1: It accomplished what we hoped it would.
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  Speaker 3: So I know, I got a rap here. I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to ask one more thing as well about music, and
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  Speaker 3: I love the stories. Is there a song you passed
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  Speaker 3: on or somebody offered you and it ended up massive
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  Speaker 3: for somebody else? And I love to ask if because
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  Speaker 3: you bring up George Straight, and I always tell this story.
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  Speaker 3: But as I asked this question, Kenny Chesney was offered
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  Speaker 3: check yes or no first, and he passed. And obviously
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  Speaker 3: that's massive George Straight song. Jacohen passed on Big Green Tractor,
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  Speaker 3: one of Eldan's staple songs. So is there a song
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  Speaker 3: like that for you that just didn't fit where you
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  Speaker 3: were at that You're like, I'm good, thanks, but you
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  Speaker 3: heard at six months later as one of the biggest
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  Speaker 3: songs in the country.
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  Speaker 2: Warren, I got to tell you, it's happened so many times.
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  Speaker 2: It's happened probably twenty times in my career. And I
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: don't think I'm exaggerating now. They didn't always go on
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: to be the biggest hits, but it's happened so many
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: times where these songs that go on to be hits,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: but not many of them do.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I regret because I.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: You know, just because the song goes on to be
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: a hit for somebody else doesn't necessarily mean I don't
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: want to be the one singing it every night.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Now if it would have been the difference.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Maker, uh, you know that that would be painful.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And there are a few of those, you know.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: The one I think that hurts the most was and
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I keep going back to my first album, but uh,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Bobby Braddock, who produced my first album, wrote wrote a
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: rap song for me because I was always coming in
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the studio singing these stupid raps that I would make up,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: just gross stuff, you know, and he said, he go, oh,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: you want to be a rapper, And he wrote me
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: this song and I recorded it and we played it
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: for Giant Records, and it did not go over well
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: at all, and then so badly that they said, we
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: don't even want that on your record.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: And so Bobby said, well, if you're cool with it,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: then I'm just going to go pitch it to other artists.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And the first artist he played it for was Toby
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Keith and the song was called I Want to Talk
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: about Me.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Oh and so, but.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because Austin came out and was
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: a hit, and I think the very next song, or
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the next song that Toby put out was I want
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: to talk about Me, And you know, we would have
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: had these two Monster records in a row, and I
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: had to watch Toby sing my rap song that Bobby
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: that Bobby wrote, but.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: It all worked out.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: So Toby, Toby does the song better than I did anyway,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: So it all worked out.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Hey Blake, I know you're tight on time, man. Welcome
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: back to country radio. And it was an absolute pleasure
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: to get to chat with you for the first time
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: here man to many more.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Everboddy, I look forward to doing it again man.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Thank you Blake, take care brother, enjoyed the day.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Buddy.