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10-16 H2: What's Up Andrew, Fact or Fiction & New CFB Playoff Format · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hey, great morning to you all. Happy Friday.
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  Speaker 2: It is a football Friday brought to you by Washington's
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  Speaker 2: Beef Farmers and Ranchers.
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  Speaker 1: Beef, it is what's for dinner.
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  Speaker 3: It's what's for dinner. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And so we roll into our second hour here on
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  Speaker 1: the program.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to play some Factor Fiction at 735. And,
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  Speaker 2: of course, Hugh Millen will be joining us for Monday
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  Speaker 2: Morning Quarterback on a Friday. starting at 8 o'clock, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll keep him until 9.40. Coming up here in about
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  Speaker 2: two minutes, normally it's Greg Bell, but Greg's in transit.
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  Speaker 2: And so we are going to, for the very first time,
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  Speaker 2: chat with Andrew Destin, who is the new Michael Sean Dugar,
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  Speaker 2: covering the Seahawks beat for the Athletic. And so for
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  Speaker 2: the first time, we'll have him on the show. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really looking forward to that conversation. even though we don't
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of great things to discuss. From last
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  Speaker 2: night's 17-14 loss in overtime to the Denver Broncos in Colorado,
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  Speaker 2: that's where our headlines begin. Brought to you by Frost
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  Speaker 2: Brewed Coors Light, cold as the Rockies, and they were
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  Speaker 2: frosty last night for Sam Darnold. There's two pivotal interceptions
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  Speaker 2: late in the game. basically cemented the victory for the Broncos,
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  Speaker 2: who couldn't do anything offensively against Mike McDonald's defense from
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the second quarter on, and yet they
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  Speaker 2: still somehow managed to hold on for a 17-14 win.
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  Speaker 2: Will Lutz with a 52-yard field goal in overtime. The
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  Speaker 2: Hawks are now 3-3. They won't play again until Sunday
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  Speaker 2: night of next week. And that will be against the
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. So the Chiefs coming into town with
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  Speaker 2: a chance to send the Hawks under.
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  Speaker 3: 500.
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  Speaker 1: Never thought about that at all.
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  Speaker 2: NFL week number six will resume Sunday morning, 6.30 from London.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be Houston at Jacksonville. The slate not great this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Sunday night's matchup will be the Cowboys at the Green
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  Speaker 2: Bay Packers. College football week number seven is going to
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  Speaker 2: be outstanding. Ohio State versus Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: 9 a.m. kickoff is the best of Eight? No, make
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  Speaker 1: it seven. No, make it six.
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  Speaker 3: Six!
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  Speaker 2: Top 25 matchups on Saturday. Huskies are at Purdue tonight.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, it's game night for the Dawgs, and you
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  Speaker 2: can hear all the action right here at Sports Radio
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  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJR-FM. College football has announced their plans to expand
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  Speaker 2: the playoff to 24 games. Neither Anders or I or
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  Speaker 2: any right-thinking person likes that idea whatsoever. I have to
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  Speaker 2: find time to talk about this later on in the show.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do it. Kraken do get.
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  Speaker 2: A point in Tampa against the Lightning, which Anders and
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  Speaker 2: I both feel like is a victory for a team
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  Speaker 2: that has won three straight games on the road until
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  Speaker 2: last night, but against a really good Tampa Bay team,
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  Speaker 2: this is shaping up to be a great road trip
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  Speaker 2: for the Kraken early in the season. They'll play again
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow against an even better team, the Florida Panthers, starting
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  Speaker 2: at 3 o'clock tomorrow night. Sounders will take on Montreal
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  Speaker 2: Saturday at 730. WNBA final start tomorrow. Four days till
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  Speaker 2: the NBA season gets underway and the Milwaukee Brewers swept
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  Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so glorious.
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  Speaker 2: Last night they advanced to the World Series for the
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  Speaker 2: first time since 1982.
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  Speaker 1: Tampa at Cleveland tonight. Game four. First pitch at five o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk. to Andrew Destin from The Athletic.
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  Speaker 1: This will be fun. Andrew, good morning to you, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Chuck.
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  Speaker 3: How are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. I take it you're still in Denver.
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  Speaker 1: Have you had an omelet yet this morning?
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  Speaker 3: No omelet yet. I woke up a solid three minutes ago,
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  Speaker 3: so we'll take that.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate us being your alarm clock here today.
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  Speaker 3: You guys most certainly were. It was a late, late
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  Speaker 3: evening just between all the different responsibilities. I think I
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  Speaker 3: conked out around 2.30 last night, 2.45. Oh, wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Gotta love the Thursday night games. Gotta love the primetime.
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  Speaker 1: Well, welcome to The Beat here in Seattle. Look forward
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  Speaker 1: to meeting you.
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  Speaker 2: Glad to have you on for the first time here
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  Speaker 2: on our morning show. And of course, you and Chris Kidd,
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  Speaker 2: our producer, will have to be rivals because you did
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  Speaker 2: replace Michael Sean Dugar, his best buddy in life.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, so, uh, but yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, but I mean, I know he got a promotion, but, uh, uh, yes, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's good to have you here in Seattle and I
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  Speaker 2: hope you're having a good time, uh, being, uh, a
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks beat writer so far.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. It's such a pleasure. And first off,
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  Speaker 3: thanks for having me on. Thanks for having me in
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  Speaker 3: the city of Seattle. Um, I'm somebody who grew up
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  Speaker 3: in the Bay area, so I'm so thankful Seahawks fans
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  Speaker 3: haven't held that against me yet. Um, I'm sure they'll
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  Speaker 3: get around to it. I'm sure they'll get to it
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  Speaker 3: at some point. Yeah. No, no. No, but what a
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  Speaker 3: beautiful city, what a beautiful place to live, and what
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  Speaker 3: a fun team to cover. What a great opportunity. I
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  Speaker 3: can't speak lonely enough about my time in Seattle so far.
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  Speaker 3: The days are flying by, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it,
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  Speaker 3: and can't wait to keep doing this for as long
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  Speaker 3: as I can. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome. Awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's test out your football chops here, because obviously
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  Speaker 2: the world champs, Sitting here at three and three had
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  Speaker 2: to have been a bit of a somber mood in
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  Speaker 2: the locker room. And nobody, it seems, wants to interview
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald right now. So just describe the scene for
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  Speaker 2: us since we weren't there in Denver with you. What
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  Speaker 2: was it like in the locker room after the game?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very fortunate in my career that five years
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  Speaker 3: into it, I've covered pro hockey, baseball, college football at
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  Speaker 3: fairly high levels. And I know what it's like when
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  Speaker 3: you've got a team that really blows a game and
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  Speaker 3: doesn't want to talk or just can kind of tell
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  Speaker 3: that things are going in the wrong direction in a
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  Speaker 3: way that's worse than just, oh, we can say the
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  Speaker 3: cliches and move on. Mike McDonald approached that podium so
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  Speaker 3: much slower and so much more intently than I've seen
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  Speaker 3: in a while. And this is no disrespect to Mike McDonald,
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  Speaker 3: but there were some times where it felt like with
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  Speaker 3: his answers, he really had to kind of hold himself back.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that applies to Mike McDonald. I think
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  Speaker 3: that applies to Sam Darnold. I think that applies to
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  Speaker 3: a little lesser extent to Leonard Williams. And I thought
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  Speaker 3: the most revealing answer to me was to a question
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  Speaker 3: I asked Cooper Cup about, hey, Sam Darnold took ownership.
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean to you guys as a team
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  Speaker 3: that he owned up to a lackluster performance for him?
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  Speaker 3: I thought all of that was really revealing to me,
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  Speaker 3: but the scene, the tone itself, um, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 3: one of, it was somber. It was exactly how I
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  Speaker 3: described it in my writing. It was frustration boiling over.
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  Speaker 3: It was missed opportunity. Um, Um, this team sitting here
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  Speaker 3: three and three, and I wrote this, it's a, I
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  Speaker 3: think they recognize that it's only going to get harder
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  Speaker 3: before it gets easier with the upcoming opponents. So the
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  Speaker 3: mood last night was wow. That needed to be a win. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: How wasn't that a win? And I think there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of reflecting in the mirror that needs to take
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  Speaker 3: place and the team intends on doing so over the
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  Speaker 3: next nine to 10 days.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Destin is with us, new Seahawks beat writer for
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  Speaker 2: the athletic first year on the beat filling in for
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  Speaker 2: Greg who's traveling. He's in midair right now, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: catch up with him on Monday. But we're very happy
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  Speaker 2: to have Andrew on for the first time here on
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  Speaker 2: the show to talk some Seahawks football, even though it's
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a somber occasion for the team itself,
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  Speaker 2: losing in overtime to Denver 17-14 last night.
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold takes the blame.
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  Speaker 2: He certainly needed to take some blame for the two
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  Speaker 2: interceptions down the stretch. He did not play a good
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  Speaker 2: football game, in my opinion, for a second week.
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  Speaker 1: In a row. But what other.
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  Speaker 2: elements contributed to it. Who else needed to step up
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  Speaker 2: last night and maybe shoulder some of that blame?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there was nobody who was going to
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  Speaker 3: speak publicly on the podium that would take this kind
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  Speaker 3: of blame. But to me, it's the offense's line. I
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  Speaker 3: think we talked so much last year, you know, my
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  Speaker 3: first year on the beat when I was with the
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  Speaker 3: Associated Press. It was my first all season with the Athletic.
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  Speaker 3: Last season, right, so much of the conversation was, wow,
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line has improved so much. They went from
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  Speaker 3: allowing over 50 sacks on the season to 27 sacks
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  Speaker 3: on the season. They've yielded 10 sacks the last two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: And I asked Sam Darnold about it bluntly post-game of
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  Speaker 3: just what's contributing to those struggles the last two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: And he pretty curtly said, I can get the ball
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  Speaker 3: out quicker, which came across to me as I don't
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  Speaker 3: have nearly enough time to throw back there. And Mike
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  Speaker 3: McDonald said, you know, we can't have the quarterback getting
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  Speaker 3: hit as frequently as he is. All of that to
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  Speaker 3: me was a sign of this team is not doing
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  Speaker 3: good enough job of keeping Donald upright. And we're seeing
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  Speaker 3: that through the offensive line. I mean, clearly the loss
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  Speaker 3: of Anthony Bradford, I think is hurting the line more
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  Speaker 3: than anybody expected. I just based on the eye test,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like Grace Abel has taken a step back
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  Speaker 3: and regressed from his rookie season. I feel like that
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  Speaker 3: right side of the offensive line, whether it's Christian Haynes,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's Bo Stevens at right guard, and then Abe
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  Speaker 3: Lucas at right tackle, I mean, that right side of
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line was getting manhandled last night. Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 3: got hit 17 times. That's a hard-winning recipe when your
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  Speaker 3: quarterback is turning the ball over all the time and
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  Speaker 3: your offensive line can't keep him up. It's a tough recipe.
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  Speaker 3: So I think a lot of the blame, frankly, last
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  Speaker 3: night should also go on the O-line rather than just
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  Speaker 3: Darnold himself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. Still doesn't excuse him
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  Speaker 2: of just two terrible turnovers when the defense was practically
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  Speaker 2: handing you the victory there toward the end of regulation
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  Speaker 2: and then to start the overtime as well. What was
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  Speaker 2: Sam's explanation on the second interception? Did he just not see?
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  Speaker 2: Because he didn't exactly laser that into Rashid Shaheed. Did
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  Speaker 2: he just not see the approaching defensive back?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was more than not seeing the
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  Speaker 3: approaching defensive back. In reviewing it, recognized it was covered
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  Speaker 3: to defense there with the safety helping out over the top.
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  Speaker 3: It was just a matter of not being in position
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  Speaker 3: or rather not recognizing in position so not a great
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  Speaker 3: explanation from Sam just by virtue of what transpired on
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  Speaker 3: the field but it was more him admitting hey it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't so much just an underthrowing of the ball it
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  Speaker 3: was I didn't see the guy there I thought I
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  Speaker 3: had Shaheed the whole way McMillan made a solid play
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  Speaker 3: coming over in some ways to me that's the less
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  Speaker 3: egregious of the interceptions because it's a matter of oh
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  Speaker 3: well I just didn't see the safety The first one,
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  Speaker 3: to me, is the one that feels more egregious because
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  Speaker 3: that was a matter of just Sam's arm talent failing him, right?
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  Speaker 3: Throwing off the back foot, laying it out there, underthrowing
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  Speaker 3: a guy in Torrey Horton on third and one, where
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  Speaker 3: if you just take the sack or throw it away,
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  Speaker 3: you're still getting a field goal to tie the game. Like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: it was the backbreaker that ultimately lost you the game,
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  Speaker 3: but that first or the second interception, not great. Neither
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  Speaker 3: of them is great, certainly, but yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's certainly taking it in the shorts from his
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  Speaker 2: fan base right now, and he's even kicking his own
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  Speaker 2: ass over it, certainly. And I'm sure Mike McDonald and
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  Speaker 2: Brian Fleury back to the drawing board with him. But
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  Speaker 2: is it strange to you, because it's strange to myself,
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  Speaker 2: that despite the criticism of Sam Darnold here this morning,
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  Speaker 2: he was the best quarterback on the field last night, Andrew.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's funny you say that. I saw some
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  Speaker 3: Broncos fans while I was returning to my hotel last
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  Speaker 3: night in the wee hours of the night, and I
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  Speaker 3: joked to them, I was like, well, I'm thinking you
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  Speaker 3: guys have your franchise quarterback now. That's really set in stone.
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  Speaker 4: You know, wow.
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I thought Ryan Fitzpatrick's comments on Prime were fantastic about it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, truly, that was a tough watch. Like we've
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  Speaker 3: seen a lot of, I know there's always those jokes
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  Speaker 3: and memes that circulate on the internet of, oh, it's
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  Speaker 3: Thursday night football, Titans, Jaguars coming up. It felt like
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  Speaker 3: that last night, which is crazy to say in a
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  Speaker 3: game featuring two teams that were in their respective conference
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  Speaker 3: championships last night. I thought Bo Nix played significantly worse
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  Speaker 3: than Sam Darnold last night. I don't think it was
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  Speaker 3: particularly close. Afraid to throw the ball down the field.
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  Speaker 3: to me it looks like a jv quarterback playing against
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  Speaker 3: the varsity and trying to run pickup football i don't
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  Speaker 3: know what the offensive plan there was um so that
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  Speaker 3: was that was just a tough watch i've watched mo
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  Speaker 3: nick since he was in college i remember when he
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  Speaker 3: was at auburn he played at my alma mater went
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  Speaker 3: to penn state for college and it didn't impress me
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  Speaker 3: then he doesn't impress me now i don't really see
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  Speaker 3: why he was the number 12 overall pick but here.
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  Speaker 2: We are so and yet he's had winning success at
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  Speaker 2: this stage in his career, but this version of him
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  Speaker 2: is nowhere close to the version that he played at
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  Speaker 2: a year ago. And just to kind of encapsulate Fitzpatrick's
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  Speaker 2: comments last night, and his voice was cracking, and he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't even have anything emotionally invested in Bo Nix of
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  Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos, but he was angry with what he
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  Speaker 2: saw out of Bo Nix last night. He said, quote,
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  Speaker 2: Bo Nix is not playing competitively. It's almost disrespectful to
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback position how he's playing football, just so you
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  Speaker 2: are aware of of what Ryan Fitzpatrick said last night
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  Speaker 2: about Bo Nix. But also, Andrew, I mean, credit to
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  Speaker 2: this defense. You're getting to see it for the first
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  Speaker 2: time up close and personal. I mean, they held another
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  Speaker 2: NFL defense to 44 yards over the span of three
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  Speaker 2: quarters last night. after Denver had scored its second touchdown,
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  Speaker 2: aided by turnovers that entire drive, by the way. So
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  Speaker 2: whatever anger that we might feel here in Seattle, one
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  Speaker 2: thing remains constant. Once Mike McDonald has time to adjust
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  Speaker 2: to whatever you're trying to do against his defense, he
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  Speaker 2: pretty much just slams the door on the opponent, and
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  Speaker 2: he certainly did it again last night.
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  Speaker 3: No doubt about it. I think that you're absolutely spot
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  Speaker 3: on with the defense here. I made this comment preseason
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  Speaker 3: back in August, back in July. I suspected this defense
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  Speaker 3: might be better than last year's unit, which is bold
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  Speaker 3: praise considering how excellent they were a season ago. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Sure looks like it. I mean, geez, what was it,
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  Speaker 3: 168 yards of total offense for the Broncos? They basically
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  Speaker 3: had two drives and nothing else. That second half performance
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  Speaker 3: was clinical. I'll be candid. With the way Seattle played
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  Speaker 3: on offense for 95% of the night, they had no
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  Speaker 3: business being in the game, but they were strictly by
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  Speaker 3: virtue of an anemic Broncos offense coupled with a generational
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  Speaker 3: defense right now from Seattle. I mean, this is This
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  Speaker 3: group is firing on all cylinders. They're doing everything right, right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty impressive to watch their ability to
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  Speaker 3: just slow teams down in all phases. Devin Witherspoon, aside
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  Speaker 3: from the pass interference call, sensational last night. He jumped
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  Speaker 3: off the page to me. You don't have Drake Thomas starting.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter because Tyrese Knight steps up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they go 15, 16 deep on defense. They
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  Speaker 3: don't lose a heart. They don't lose a beat when
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  Speaker 3: anybody steps out. That defense looks fantastic right now.
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  Speaker 2: And while we're handing out flowers, I mean, JSN, once again,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just 12 catches on a night where your
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  Speaker 2: offense isn't doing anything. 134 yards. Sam threw a great
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  Speaker 2: pass down the middle, but that was an unbelievable catch,
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  Speaker 2: the 32-yarder.
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  Speaker 1: And then the.
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  Speaker 2: Double catch over on the right sideline was insanity. Like,
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  Speaker 2: how on earth did he, with arms draped around him,
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  Speaker 2: catch that pass after it hit his hands and still
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  Speaker 2: have the ability to react and catch it before it
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  Speaker 2: hit the ground?
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  Speaker 1: The guy's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: I actually don't have any more words to describe him. No,
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  Speaker 3: I'll probably have to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to have.
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  Speaker 3: To figure it out. No, I mean, it's... To me,
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  Speaker 3: it's interesting that an offense can be so one-dimensional and
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  Speaker 3: an opposing defense can know exactly what's coming. And it
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  Speaker 3: kind of doesn't matter, right? Yeah. Like, he's just... It's
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  Speaker 3: impressive to watch his ability to go across the middle.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know. It's just... He steps up in moments,
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  Speaker 3: and I felt like that was another week where I went, wow,
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  Speaker 3: that was the quietest 100-yard receiving performance I've ever watched.
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  Speaker 3: And he's done it five times in six games already
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  Speaker 3: this season. It's so workmanlike. It's so businessmanlike. Hit the
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  Speaker 3: gap to the guy. There's a reason he got paid,
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  Speaker 3: and I commend the Seahawks for giving him every penny.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so this is your first year on the beat,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously, you know, you're covering a world championship team
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  Speaker 2: that has started the next year 3-3. So just overall,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how worried, concerned, panicked? should the fan base
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: be over the 2026 Seahawks, or is it just the opposite?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: You guys have nothing to worry about. I've been covering
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: this sport for a while. This team's going to be
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: just fine. They're just going through a rut. Where do
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: you stand on.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: All of this? It's a cliche, cop-out answer, but I'll
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: say somewhere in the middle. It's the truth, though. They
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: are going to be a playoff team. I'm willing to
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: put my name attached to that with whatever record we
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: want to put down, but... Clearly, being 3-3 already through
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: six games, with the way the rest of the schedule
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: shakes out, I am not envisioning a season where they
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: run it back, or as they say, run it forward
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: and have a 14-3 record and then go undefeated in
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. I just don't think that's going to happen.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I think the division's too tough. I think the schedule
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: remaining is too tough. I think we're probably more likely
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: looking at 10-7, 11-6, possibly with a floor of 9-8
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: type of Seahawks season. Preseason, my projection was 12-5 for them.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I thought this was going to be a loss to
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: the Broncos. The difference was I didn't expect Denver to
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: win in this kind of a fashion, but regardless... The
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: schedule is really tough compared to last year. It's much harder.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: The roster itself, in some ways, is less talented than
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: last season. Not having Jarrion Price or Zach Charbonnet is
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: really hurting right now. Not having Kenneth Walker III, letting
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: him walk in free agency, is really hurting right now.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Offensive line not being as strong. Sam Donald taking a
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: step back. I think there's plenty to be concerned about.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: That being said... I don't think the Seahawks are going
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: to go 6-11, 5-12, and finish down with the Arizona
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Cardinals in the bottom of the NFC. This is still
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: a playoff team. But, man, it does not look like
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl team right now. And I'm stating the
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: obvious in saying that, but I don't think they're a
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl team regardless this year. I think this is
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: a clear step back of a season for the team.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Okay. Great stuff, man. Thank you very much. Hey, it
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: was a pleasure having you on.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Go back to bed if you'd like, or if I
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: teased you with that omelet idea, indulge yourself.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I hear that they make them in Denver.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: That's true, and they have ham in Denver, too. It's
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: pretty cool stuff. No, Chuck, thanks for having me on.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go grab a coffee and get my
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: day going. Thanks for having me on. Thanks, man.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: We'll do it again. Great stuff.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Sounds good. All right.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Andrew Destin joining us right here on the radio program.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: New Seahawks beat writer with the athletic. Greg will be
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: back with us on Monday. But hey, heck of a
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: pinch hitting performance from Destin here today on the Seahawks.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, more on Sam Darnold. We'll hear from Sam.
• 19:51
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• 19:53
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• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Now back to the Washington State Beef Commission's Football Friday
• 20:00
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• 20:04
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• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I just think it's BS for me to keep turning
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: the ball over. And it's not fair to our defense,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: not fair to our special teams group, and not fair
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: really to the entire team.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: So I've got.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: To be better that way.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised at all. I mean, that's on brand
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: for Sam. I didn't think he was going to shy
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: away from that. And normally with Sam Darnold, what we've
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: learned over the last year is that he usually doesn't
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: go into a woe-is-me kind of mode. He typically comes
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: back the next day firing and confident and ready to go.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I do think he played with a lack of confidence
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: last night, and I don't know if he did have
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: burning in his brain.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Don't turn it over, don't turn it over, don't turn
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: it over, all night long.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: And then ultimately his two turnovers cost the team the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: chance at victory, actually the victory. Because they were going
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to win that football game, if not for the interception
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: that he threw, the second interception. Good morning to you.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Hugh Millen will join us at 8 o'clock. We're going
• 21:07
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• 21:12
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• 21:19
  Speaker 2: So Sam falls on the sword, takes all of the blame.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Certainly there's some to go around. He got hit 17 times.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: The offensive line, I thought, played its worst game of
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the entire season this year. Kirk Herbstreet did mention, in
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: contrast to what Andrew Destin told us about the first interception,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: he didn't see the broadcast. Herbstreet put that on Torrey Horton.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Not fighting for the ball, coming back for the ball.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I think a little blend of the two. I think
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I probably blame Sam a little bit more. Hugh might
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: think differently. We'll find out from him a little bit
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: later on. Also, the batted down balls at the line
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage. I mean, this is not DeMond Williams. Why
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: is Sam getting so many balls batted down at the
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage? It's like three a game.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't explain it. I think he leads the
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: NFL in that category.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, there can't be any doubt about that. I mean,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I don't have the stats in front of me.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: No, I don't either.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: But I don't see as... other quarterback struggling with this
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: as much as he does he's.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Not short at all he's like six three six four
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: like it makes no sense to me i don't know
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: if they're he's just kind of uh uh telegraphing his
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: passes a little bit where the the rush if they're
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: not going to get there they know that's kind of
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: where he's looking i don't know i i can't explain
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: it at all because it happens way more than you expect.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: It to well they are tall yeah and he does
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: drop sidearm sometimes but um but man it just seems
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: like he gets an awful lot of paws and helmets
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: and uh, more so than other, other quarterbacks. And then
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I think the pressure, he also took a couple sacks.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: He didn't have to, I think that he could run
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: more than he does. He's actually pretty athletic and you
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: saw him with a nice run last night.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe he's just in his head.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Um, certainly he's got to wear this one, you know, there,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: those two interceptions just were killers, but I'm not going
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: to replace him. I realized there's a big You got
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: to go to Drew Locke. I mean, the love affair
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: that fans in this city have for Drew Locke all
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: of a sudden when you never really even liked him.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, he lost a quarterback battle to Geno Smith.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Who you also hate.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I mean he had three times in his NFL career
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: to prove that he could be a starter and never
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: could do it right I mean it took Sam three
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: times as well but he proved he could and then
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl yeah uh just one year ago
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: uh so I like having Drew Locke and I do
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: think he's one of the best backup quarterbacks in the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: National Football League um but I'm not turning this season
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: over to somebody who's failed every time he's tried to
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: be a starter when I've got a guy that won
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl just a few months ago.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: No, yeah, I can't do that. I won't necessarily just
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: completely shut down any of the discussion with that, because
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: I think it's there are some valid concerns with Sam
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Donald for sure. And Drew Locke did look really good
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: in the two games that he played. I sure I
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: will admit both of those things. But I am I
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: agree with you. I am not taking anything to, I'm
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: not taking any big decisions at this point in time
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: with the quarterback position. And I actually don't even see
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: the lack of confidence that you see. Like they mentioned
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: after his first interception, when the Seahawks got the ball
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: back and needed to drive down the field in a
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: minute to get the tying field goal, he made some
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: fantastic throws.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he made some great throws.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: So I don't, I think the confidence is there. There
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: are definitely times where it's like he second guesses himself
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: a A lot of that, I think, has to do
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: with the pressure that he was under last night as well.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: But we've got to fix the turnovers. This was even
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: a thing that we talked about last year, but it's
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: happening at worse times this year.
• 24:46
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• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And, I don't know, color me blue, I guess.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I think I'm a bigger believer in what Will Stein's
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: doing in Kentucky than what Oklahoma did last week against Texas. So,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Kentucky is on the road against the Sooners, and they're
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: getting six and a half points in this game. Yeah,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I'll take those points. I think they're going to win outright.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I think they're just the better football team. I'm going
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: to take the Kentucky Wildcats plus six and a half
• 25:47
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• 25:51
  Speaker 1: And I get it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma's coming off a huge win over Texas. But then again,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: they're coming off a huge win over Texas.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: We've seen this multiple times.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: This could be a letdown game.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Now, Kentucky's also coming off a really huge win, maybe
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: program defining over LSU. But Kentucky's just played better football
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: all season long. Oklahoma lost by 28 to Georgia the
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: previous week, and they lost to Michigan earlier this season,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: who's not any good. So, to me, Kentucky's just firing
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: on more cylinders.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe not all. More cylinders, if that's even a thing.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I don't really know cars. So I'm going to go
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: ahead and take Kentucky.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: If you're going to give me the points, you're going
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: to take Kentucky, plus six and a half at Oklahoma.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you something about Will Stein.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I don't really like this in a head coach, but
• 26:43
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• 26:45
  Speaker 1: He showed up in.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: His press conference. They asked him why it's going to
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: be different, and he said, because of me. I'm that special.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: He Signetti'd his press conference. And if you do that,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and then you start backing it up, I start thinking, oh,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: this guy might be special.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe Oregon shouldn't have let him go. I don't know.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: But I think I believe more in Kentucky this season
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: than I do Oklahoma. So if they're going to get
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: six and a half points, I'll take the points.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Give me the Wildcats.
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• 28:29
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• 28:40
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• 28:41
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• 28:45
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• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. All right, Hugh Billen joining
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: us at the top of the hour.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: So Monday morning quarterback from 8 to 940 this morning. And,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: of course, we'll be discussing the loss to the Denver
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Broncos last night in overtime.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Should have never happened.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: 17-14, the final score in overtime. And so our world champion.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Professional football team is off to a 3-3 start. Can't
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: wait to get Hugh's thoughts on it starting at 8 o'clock.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: But I did want to spend a little time on
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: college football this morning. Of course, Huskies play in Purdue tonight.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: 5 o'clock kickoff and the Honks will get started at
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: 1 o'clock. You can hear all the action. Second Friday
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: in a row. uh that softy's taking over the airwaves
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: this time he'll be on the road so everyone here
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: is safe thank god uh yeah um so uh kickoff
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: tonight at five o'clock i mean it's beyond a must
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: win uh for the huskies in terms of their season
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: um they're already past that stage um it might be
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: must win for.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: The program Jed Fish's program.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: For Jed Fish's job.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: You know, starting here tonight.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: So UW at Purdue kickoff at five o'clock and then
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the rest of the Big Ten schedule.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And we won't get to our pickups today. There's just
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: too much to do.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: But Ohio State at Indiana is the nine o'clock game tomorrow.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: So best game of the day.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Nine o'clock.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Get up, have a top pot donut, big jug of coffee.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Get yourself ready for the best college football game of
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the weekend at 9 o'clock. You got Northwestern, who's playing
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: like a playoff team. I've said that the last couple
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: of weeks, and a few people have laughed at it. No,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: they are playing like a playoff team. They're at Michigan
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: State at 9 o'clock. 9.30, Rutgers at Maryland.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: That's terrible.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Penn State at Michigan, 12.30 game. Wisconsin at UCLA is
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: a 4.30 start, and Nebraska at Oregon is the night
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: game at 8 o'clock tomorrow on Fox.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: But We have a few minutes here, Anders.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: And if we're going to talk college football, we have
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: to talk about the decision that has been made to
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: expand the college football playoff to 24 teams.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Very near.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: It's not finalized, but very near. And we'll start as
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: soon as next year, 2027. It's going to start. If
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: this doesn't encapsulate The people that make decisions for college football,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know what does. You're a bunch of a-holes
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: is what you are. Just an entire group. There's no
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: other words to describe you. Everybody that makes a decision
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: in this. Think about what they've done. You had college
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: football fans. They don't give a crap about college football fans.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: All they care about, oh, money, money, money, money. And
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: The thing is, you could appease college football fans and
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: still make the same amount of money. It's as if
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: you're doing it on purpose. But we lived with the
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: worst playoff system, not just to a national audience, not
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: just to college athletics fans, The worst playoff system at
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the professional level, at the collegiate level, at the high
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: school level, at the little league level, there was never any.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: There was never a worse process for determining a champion
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: than the bowl system.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: The BCS, yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Before that, you're jumping way ahead. We lived with the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: bowl system and writers just saying, I'll vote for them.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And the way that they determined a champion. And then
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: we went BCS and had two different versions of, you know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: let's figure out who plays for the national championship game,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: which was also voted on.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: We'll have a committee. And then they expanded it to four.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: And all that time, most college football fans, even though
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of football fans love the Bulls and miss
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the Bulls, in terms of determining a champion, Anybody that
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: wanted a system for determining a legitimate champion, and there
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: were tons of us, wanted a playoff.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: All of our lives. You finally gave us one. Eight games,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: eight teams was fine. 12 teams.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Okay. I get it. I like it.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: You know, the home field advantage, you know, you're going
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: to play it on campuses. I actually kind of like that.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: And then, All of those fans that wanted a playoff
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: that you wouldn't give them for years because you were
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: trying to control the money, you finally give it to us.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: We like it. We don't want to see it expand.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: And now the people that kept us from ever having
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: a true tournament have decided, let's expand it to 24 teams.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Let's include teams that have no business playing for a
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: national championship. Let's Also, eat into the regular season because
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you're going to have to.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: And let's just bastardize the entire process. We finally got it,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and now we're just going to whore out at this
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: stage in the entire process. And so let's just have
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: 24 teams so that we can satisfy not the product,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: not the fans. But because the Big Ten and the
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: SEC want more teams in the college football playoff, and
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: we can create more television contracts with a college football playoff,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: so let's just water down the entire process. After years,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: keeping you from actually being able to watch a college
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: football playoff, which is what we needed our entire lives,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: you live with it for two years, we're all good
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: with it, and you decide, oh, wow, we can make
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: a lot more money if we do it this way.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: And now you've just ugly it all up again.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: So that's it. That was it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: That's what I waited my entire life for was for
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: them to give us a legit tournament for three years
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: and then ruin it again on the backside by giving
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: us too many teams.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I think the balance is like the more playoff teams
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: you add, the more you're taking away from the regular
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: season and its importance.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: So for the longest time, it was like, Oh my God,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: the regular season is so important. You can't even lose
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: a game. because then you won't even be considered for
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: the national championship, right? Which I don't think values the
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: regular season. No, yeah, it puts it too much on
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: that side, right? Then there's kind of the couple years
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: that we've gotten where it's like, yeah, the regular season matters,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: but then we also get the best teams playing each
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: other at the end of the year.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Good balance.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Like, we got two years of that! The 12-team playoff,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: which I agree with you. I think everyone's like, fine,
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: this is good.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Good balance.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Every year we're figuring out, okay, let's fix that. We
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have done that. We shouldn't have seeded them that way.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Let's not do that anymore. And then we tweak it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: We were like two years away from like, that's it. Yes.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: We got it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: We got it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Finally, as college football fans, we can embrace and rejoice
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and dance in the streets. We get to claim a
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: real champion every single year. And then they decided, Well,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: let's ruin it for them. Yeah, let's make some more money.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Let's go too far the other way. And they're probably
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: not done. It'll probably be 64 teams before the end.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Just be a whole season worth of playoffs.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 36:20
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• 36:23
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