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Lena Bergman - Therapeutic Services · Look Who's Talking

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I'm Cameron Minter.
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I am your co-host and the wonderful Jessica Coffee, our head start director.
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Hey y'all.
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Is our host.
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What's going on Jessica?
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Hey y'all.
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Welcome to the show.
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I'm Cameron Minter.
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I am your co-host and the wonderful Jessica Coffie, our Head Start director.
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Hey y'all.
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Is our host.
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What's going on Jessica?
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You know not much, just sitting here with you.
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I know right.
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Say it better though.
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Hey, sit and get it with me.
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You remind me of the Jeffersons.
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Why?
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The maid.
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Lord?
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Lord.
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She was always smart.
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Oh yeah, she was.
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Okay.
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I just really just killed my age right there.
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But I'm glad you picked up, Odie.
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That would be a good, yeah.
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We the same.
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I'm Cameron Minter.
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I am your co-host and the wonderful Jessica Coffee, our head start director.
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Hey y'all.
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Is our host.
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What's going on Jessica?
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Hey y'all.
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Is our host.
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I am your co-host and the wonderful Jessica Coffee, our head start director.
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Hey y'all.
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Is our host.
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We are.
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That's alright.
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Hey, I got a quick question now.
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You are the aunties of aunties.
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And you hold your title.
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That means I'm great.
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Yeah.
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You hold your title very seriously.
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I do.
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I do.
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So what has happened while the children were in your care that surprised even you, the
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greatest auntie of aunties?
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What has happened when the children have been in my care?
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So like children say the darnedest things, right?
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Well, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I know when they're free with auntie, you know, the auntie.
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There's no discipline.
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There's no discipline.
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No.
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Something has come out.
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Well, you know, there's...
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Okay, so I don't always filter the music that I listen to.
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And because, you know, it's me.
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I don't know.
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I didn't know I had to.
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It's auntie.
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So one of my best friends called and was like, so why is your nephew singing Cardi B?
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And I was like, oh, my bad.
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But you know also what they do?
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If it's something that they want that their parents don't get or say they're talking about
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bedtime and they'll be like, no, Titi said we could.
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They throw me into their fibs.
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Under the bus.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So those are some of the things that...
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Yeah.
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I figured you would have some great stories because, you know, holding that title.
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I mean, that's a big responsibility.
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You got to be better than your siblings.
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No, they think with me, they think money grows on trees.
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Absolutely.
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Because you've taught them that.
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Well, I have.
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Don't!
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I do.
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Well, because I live away from my niece and nephews and even my friends' kids are my niece
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and nephews, right?
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You the auntie.
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So when we say niece and nephews, that means your friends' kids too.
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That's it.
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And I'm like, I want to reward them all the time.
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All the time.
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So they'd be like, yo, can we go get a blizzard?
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And I'm like, yeah.
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Well, why not?
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Right.
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What them grades looking like?
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What are those grades looking like?
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Well, I didn't do too well.
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Oh, you know what?
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You live in a hard life.
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Let's go get this ice cream.
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Oh my God.
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What?
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Because I know that you're going to do better, right?
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Yeah.
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I'm a sucker.
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I'm gullible.
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And they got me wrapped around their finger.
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That's a good thing.
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That sums it up.
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Yeah, that's a good thing.
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I knew.
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But when they do misbehave, I go a little bit psycho on them.
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Yeah.
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But they know it's only talk.
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They know.
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Yeah, I know.
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That's how it is.
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I'm like, you're not supposed to do that.
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You're disappointing me.
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What's wrong?
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Oh.
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Say to a kid, use the word disappointment.
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And that just brings tears.
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So that's my magic word.
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And then you break.
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Yeah.
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I'm just so disappointed.
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And you look at them and I'm just so disappointed.
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So disappointed.
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You're so disappointed.
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Yeah.
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That's good.
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That's good.
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I'm glad to know you lived up to everything I thought about you.
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But you know what?
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I went home this weekend.
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It was I emceed a go red heart event.
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And y'all, my family has had they've never seen me be a professional.
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Right.
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Ever.
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So like, even me working here, they're like, we know you have a job.
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Suspense.
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You sus.
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Yeah.
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So it was a crowd of over 230 people.
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I'm emceeing and you know, I'm getting nervous because first I'm nervous because my family
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have never seen me be a professional.
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So you know, I went up to the mic and I was like, hey y'all, you know, talking and I'm
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telling the crowd, hey, my family has never seen me be a professional.
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They all laugh.
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And then I said, well, I'm not only nervous about that, most of y'all in this room knew
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bad Jessica.
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And then they broke out in laughter because what it was more than my I was like, I looked
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at my sister and I was like, who girl did you sell these tickets to everybody?
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We know like what happened.
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It's supposed to be a room of people that I didn't know.
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Wow.
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So yeah, that happened.
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And I was around my little niece and I just sported.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's a wonderful story.
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I'm glad you shared that because I saw the pictures and I saw the little clean professional
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version, but this is the real version that happened.
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My family, then we took a family photo.
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Like my mom was there, my uncle, my aunt.
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My dad didn't come because he was like, oh, hold up, that even is for girls.
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And I said, no, it's not, but you know, he don't like going around the house because
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he thinks everyone still has COVID.
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Right.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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But you know, he's your favorite anyway, as you have stated multiple times on this show.
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So oh, and then you see a co-sign?
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Y'all saw that?
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Okay.
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I co-signed, but I also was like, yeah, my sister's not going to hear this.
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So we good.
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I am his favorite.
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Wow.
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No, I said he is your favorite.
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That's what I said.
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Look at you, how you changed it around.
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You just, he's my favorite dad and my mom is my favorite mom.
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You see how that works?
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You're hoping that they don't listen, don't you?
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Yeah.
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I might tell them to listen to this one.
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Yeah.
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How about that?
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Well, with that, I think it's time for a Coffie Break.
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Okay guys, for today's Coffie Break, I want to remind you, always remember that motivation
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gets you moving, but determination keeps you going.
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What you got to say about that, Ken?
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I like that.
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Because you got to be motivated.
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Motivation, but see, that goes to show you that motivation won't get you there.
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Being excited about something won't get you there.
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Being, you know, glad about something being, you know, it motivated me to get up, but it
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did not sustain me to go through.
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Okay.
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Priest the word, preacher.
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I'm trying not to.
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But that's really good.
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Because people get excited about stuff, right?
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Yeah.
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You know, you see people jump on the bandwagon.
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You see people do stuff.
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You see people, oh yeah, that's all it.
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But determination is what's got to keep you.
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That part.
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Because after the fanfare wears off.
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You know, I've been motivated because I took about two, three months off working out.
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So it took a couple of weeks for me to get the motivation.
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Like I'm thinking about it.
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I'm dreaming about it.
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I'm preparing myself.
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I'm preparing myself mentally and physically.
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It's just going to have to be that determination.
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So I did a full week, a full week, but it was the determination that got me like up
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this morning.
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I got up at five this morning to go work out.
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And it was that determination.
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Because I wasn't motivated this morning.
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Yeah.
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Determination.
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Yeah.
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I wish I had some, but because I ain't determined to get up about nothing.
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You don't have no determination?
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Man, that's crazy.
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Because.
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Let me go to the store and buy some.
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Buy some determination.
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Right.
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Please make sure it's on sale.
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Oh my God.
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Okay.
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Jessica, what is going on today?
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I don't know.
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You have me laughing today.
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Today we have Ms. Lena Bergman.
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Licensed clinical social worker with Bluegrass Counseling and Trauma Services.
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And today, yes, so today we're going to be talking about therapeutic services provided
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to start children.
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So welcome to the show.
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Thank you.
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I appreciate the welcome.
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Yes.
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So first, the people want to know a little bit about you.
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So tell us a little bit about you, yourself, how you got into this background and all of
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that.
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Okay.
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So I am first a mom of five kids.
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Oh, girl.
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I know.
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I'm crazy.
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Five.
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Oh, give me ages.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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She don't remember them.
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I have a five-year-old.
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I have an 11-year-old and a 12-year-old.
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And I have two 14-year-olds currently.
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Do you have any twins?
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They're not.
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I actually adopted two of them from foster care.
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So we have part of the year we have stair steps and part of the year we have the same
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age.
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Bless your heart.
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Bless your heart.
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It is.
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It's a fun time at our house.
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What was the youngest again?
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Five.
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She's sweet, thankfully.
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She makes the other one.
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I know.
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I don't envy you with them teenage years.
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I'm sorry.
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You go ahead.
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Tell us more about you.
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Okay.
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So I work for Bluegrass.
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I've been doing two years and I have been doing play therapy with our friends here at
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Community Action for about a year and a half now.
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Yay.
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Where are you from?
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So I live on the other side of Richmond.
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I'm in a little town called Paintlick and we have a farm there and we raise cows and
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horses and chickens and goats and sheep.
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Whatever else I bring home.
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Oh.
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Can I come to your house?
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You can.
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Yes.
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I'm like, I want to be a farm girl.
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No you don't.
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No you don't.
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I do.
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I'm a farm girl.
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However, I don't want to actually.
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Determination.
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Determination.
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Is that the word for the day?
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Go ahead.
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Make it a word.
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Well I want to have the farm.
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I just don't want to take care of the animals.
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Oh.
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Oh.
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I completely understand.
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Okay.
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Well come on out like in the summer when it's not muddy and it's about 70 and you have
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the fly.
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And the lemonade is made.
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All the good stuff.
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Yes.
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I will have you on out.
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I'll bring you out and we can get some stuff out of the garden.
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That.
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Some of the goats will play with you.
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Yeah.
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We can do that.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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That's the good part.
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That's the good part.
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Right now is mud.
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Let me have all the good stuff.
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Hey.
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Hey.
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We might need a record.
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Look who's talking at the farm.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Because we're going to need some chickens in this maze.
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Yes.
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I mean I'm feeling like I've got some money in the bank right now because we've got some
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chickens and they're laying eggs.
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Ching.
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Ching.
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Their insurance policy.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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So can you tell us a little bit more when people say therapeutic services, what does
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that actually mean?
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So when we do play therapy, I think if any of our parents were watching us do a session
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with their child, they would be like, what are they doing?
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So it doesn't look like what you would think talk therapy would look like.
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We do talk to your children, but we're also on the floor with them.
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We're playing, we're interacting.
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We are playing hide and seek.
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We are playing tag.
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We are playing.
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A lot of them love to cook for us and we have got some really good chefs here connection
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and they are amazing with what they cook up for us.
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We are working on social interactions with them.
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We are letting them decide what they want to do.
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Sometimes if they're in a family, maybe with older siblings, they haven't got to kind of
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pick up what they do.
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They kind of are the followers.
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So they really enjoy getting to pick what they're doing.
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And we are just encouraging them and giving that one on one attention and they really
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love it.
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Our kids are ready to come see us.
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They are waiting at the door and it's a really a fun session.
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It's very positive.
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So how is that therapeutic?
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So how is that therapeutic?
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So we work with them.
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We sneak some things in.
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So just like if you're making something for your kids and you're trying to sneak in some
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vegetables and play therapy, we can sneak in some things too.
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So we can work with them on some like coping techniques.
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Today we were working on you smell the flower and then you breathe it out and blow the pin
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wheel and when you get upset, you can use it.
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And they were really enjoying that today.
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Oh yeah.
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And we also work on mindfulness.
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So when we do artwork, they're doing some mindfulness and we talk about what we're doing
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so they can kind of slow down and think about it and gather their thoughts.
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We might need that for adults.
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Sneaking stuff in.
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We sneak it in.
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Sneak it in and play.
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We sneak it into play.
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So they don't realize anything is getting snuck in there.
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And we also let the child lead.
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So if they want to do one activity, we could have something planned.
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If they don't want to do it, that's okay.
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We adjust and move around.
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And if something comes up in the family, so we've had some families that have lost some
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loved ones or something maybe they're going to be moving, we can address that in a way
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that the child is ready for.
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Oh wow.
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Those are some topics right there.
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Those are some topics there.
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But we don't put it in a scary way.
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We kind of smooth it in there to talk about it.
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That sounds like my emotional support chicken I have for the kids that can play with.
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Oh wow.
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Yeah, we have that.
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They're one of those too.
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So that's great.
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I mean really truly creative ways of getting in what they need is essential.
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And I applaud that.
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I mean that's just the greatest thing I think I've heard today.
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Right, right.
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Just getting it in.
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Because you know what, when you, so my background is nutrition so I understand sneaking things
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in the food.
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But I never thought about you know just that whole sneak this way of coping into play.
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That's great.
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It is.
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And we've noticed with our families with COVID a lot of things got roughed up and we've
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been trying to help pull those back together for some of those interactions.
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That's a good segue.
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We're going to take a break real quick and we're going to talk with Lena after the break.
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Hey, how y'all doing?
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We are back.
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We are talking with Lena Bergman.
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Bergman.
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That's who we're talking with.
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And we're talking about before the break you had mentioned about COVID.
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Oh, the C word.
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Yeah, yeah.
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How that impacted some of our kids.
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How did that change the tapestry of our children?
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Look at there.
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Not the tapestry, okay.
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I like that.
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The tapestry.
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We've got a lot of little people with a lot of big feelings and they don't know how to
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express themselves.
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My, my, my.
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I mean, they were stuck inside.
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We got a lot of big people who don't know.
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We got a lot of big people that don't.
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Yeah, you're right because sometimes our parents don't know how to express themselves and then
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kids are learning from their parents.
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No, she didn't say that.
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No, she did.
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She said it.
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She said what she said, Kim.
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I'll stand by it.
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She said what she said.
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That's what's up.
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So when we're teaching these and I even told one of our kids, yeah, I was like, you know,
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if mommy's having a bad day, you can tell her you like smell the flower and blow it
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out.
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He's like, okay, because he said, I never get angry.
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Right, right, right, right.
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He was practicing it though, so he's right telling mom.
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I think that's great though.
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I know if one of my kids told me that, I think it would stop me right in my tracks and I'd
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be like, no, no, you're going to be like, who told you that?
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The teacher told you that?
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Nope, Miss Lena told you that.
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But you know what, I think it's great because I feel like when I was in school, you know,
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I'm young though.
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Oh yeah.
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Super young.
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Like that whole learning of emotions, I feel like I've learned more about that as an adult
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than what I did as a child.
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But you know, now in our classrooms, that's one of the first things they learn.
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Yes.
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I love Community Action.
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It has so many resources that you all have in your classrooms.
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So we were able to use it also when we were playing with the kids in the playroom and
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show them and they also are seeing it in the classroom.
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So that has been great.
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And I work with the kids of like, show me your mad face.
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And they'll show me that the movie Inside Out, because so many of them have seen it.
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They understand and they are able to connect that.
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So for say, if you see me about and about like I've got Inside Out on my badge, the
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kids will come up here, I'll wear shirts to have different feelings on them.
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They'll come pointed out to me and our Community Action kids are so good at that because they
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are recognizing what these faces look like and they're able to show us.
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And it's great to see and some of our friends that play with us, so clients that we're
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seeing, but also other kids in the classroom.
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So they are pointing it out.
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They are seeing it.
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So listen, great inside out to have me.
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I know it's still yes.
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Have you seen it, Kim?
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Yes, I have.
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Oh my goodness.
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And I was sitting there like, oh, there's something wrong with me.
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Right, right.
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Because we didn't get taught this.
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We were like, you better sit down.
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You better be quiet.
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I think, you know, Inside Out is a great movie to teach about emotions and things like that.
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It is.
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And I've given it to parents as homework.
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Go watch Inside Out too and talk about it with your kids.
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And they're like, what was that?
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Right, right.
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So many hidden messages.
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I was like, there's something wrong with me, not the kids.
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It's me.
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That's terrible.
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But anyway, the therapy is essential and it's so good.
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And so I'm like you, when you look at what we're doing now for children and we look at
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what wasn't done for us.
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It's night and day.
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Yeah.
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We missed out on something.
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It is.
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And we are getting parents now that are telling their children to be seen by us that are being
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proactive because they realize they did not have that in their childhood and they want
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to make sure that their child doesn't go through that.
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Not because there's particularly behavioral issues, because they just want to make sure
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that everything's being covered.
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So do you only come out during behavioral issues or how does the process work for you
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to come and work with children?
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So we will get a referral from our mental health coaches and they have a packet that
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the parents will sign on some consent forms.
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And once that's completed and we get insurance information or if it's going to be one that
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community action helps pay for, we get that information taken care of.
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They send it to us.
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We set up an intake with the parents.
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So typically the intake is the main time that they will have to talk to us because we know
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these kids are here at the center.
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After that, and essentially it's a kind of a hands off.
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So that way that we're not expecting them to show up, protect the kid here, there.
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So the parent can know that their child's receiving services, but they're not having
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to do that transportation or add another thing onto their schedule.
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So we're taking that barrier out of the way.
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What would you say to a parent who is very hesitant about their child getting services
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for whatever reason?
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I would just recommend them to be looking to play therapy and if they have questions,
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I'm happy to talk to them.
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When they see us around the center, like I said, we are normally in jeans.
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We are in some kind of fun t-shirt.
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I dressed up a little bit for today, but I am wearing my daughter's play necklace and
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I'm wearing inside out of a badge.
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But we really get down there with the kids.
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So we're not going to look like we're some very professional person.
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We're not going to be scary.
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All the kids have seen us in their room so they know it's a good thing to go hang out
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with us.
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But we don't call out anything on the kids.
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We're not going to say we have concerns with this.
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We're just going to go play with them.
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So what are some of the concerns that you all deal with in the classroom?
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So sometimes we see kids because we have issues at home.
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So maybe we have family separations.
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We have moving.
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We have some grief issues.
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Sometimes some big behaviors at home that aren't that the parents are feeling like they
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can't handle or that may not be big behaviors at home, but maybe in the classroom we're
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having some interactions with friend problems that we work with or just if they just kind
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of want an extra set of eyes on their child.
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So not every kid is getting speech therapy or getting other things.
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So we're doing that with them.
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And we also as part of our services, we have myself and then we have what's called a targeted
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case manager.
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We pull the child out.
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That way we have our two people with a child at all times.
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But they also offer case management.
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So it's not just the child.
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We offer support service to the parents.
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So say if a parent is having a hard time maybe with rent or needing to get some food assistance,
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they can talk to us too and we can see if we can find them some resources.
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So you had said something like moving.
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I swear I don't even recognize and we're talking children zero to five.
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How does something like that show up in the kid?
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They can start getting anxiety.
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We have some kids that have very big separation anxiety.
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Some of these kids have experienced trauma.
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Like something's happened to their house and they've had to move or they've had changes
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in their situations or maybe there was a breakup in the family.
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So mom and dad aren't together anymore and they're having to stay in different houses.
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So we're able to talk about that.
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But we see some separation anxiety.
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Yeah, that's real.
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Again with COVID too because they were just right there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's real.
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I always whenever I think about mental health and with kids I think of Prince of Tides and
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it's a great movie but it's a really bad movie.
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But it just deals with not dealing with things.
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And how the children when they were little didn't deal with things and how it affected
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them when they became adults.
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I think what you're doing is being able to help them navigate that.
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At least acknowledge it.
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That's a big part of it.
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A lot of times we don't want to acknowledge what's going on and therefore we all have
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our different coping mechanism but the kid also has one.
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Like you said, we're noticing it's there and getting it taken care of before it starts
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growing like a big pimple for lack of a better term before it explodes and we're getting
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it under control.
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So even when those kids are getting older that they can kind of think back on some of
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those coping skills because we don't know what will happen when they get older, what
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other services they'll be with but hopefully they've got a foundation to keep them.
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And I like the fact that kids aren't afraid to talk about anything so the things that
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they are learning in the classroom, they will go back and tell their parents.
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They do.
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Right, that's why I said you're going to get in trouble.
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And they'll tell their friends' parents.
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I was hearing this morning about one little girl that was demonstrating what she's been
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learning and somebody else that saw her doing it.
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I was like that's great because that's spreading that around.
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Well and you also, at least when a child corrects you about your attitude or your behavior as
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an adult, you can't get mad at that.
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You can't really.
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You really can't.
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They might be right but go to your room, but you might be right.
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You know?
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Like I just think it's so important that we touch our children at such a young age because
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again I cannot remember being able to express myself in that way.
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I feel like I'm in a session right now because I'm just remembering, you know, we dealt with
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a lot of stuff and you know parents believe that kids don't know what's going on.
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Oh they know.
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But they know.
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They pick up on so much.
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And when you're in denial, and that's one of the questions I have, I'm not trying to
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talk bad about parents because you know I've been there.
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But when you're in denial of what's going on and then you say hey he's really dealing
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with this, how is that response with the parents?
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So I mean some of our parents are not, we've had some concerns with maybe some kids but
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their parents haven't been ready to go through with services and we respect that.
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We understand it.
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But maybe, and I don't know if that's possibly because they're thinking maybe that we're
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trying to call them out as a parent.
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Right, right.
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And we're not.
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I mean.
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But you know it's a thought.
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It's a thought.
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And I don't, I mean I'm a parent.
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I understand because even like my kids when they struggle with things, I'm like I know
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this I do this every day at home but we're still having some issues here.
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So it's okay to pull in that extra layer of support to help with these kids.
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And you're, I mean being a parent you've got so many other hats on.
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Nobody told you you're going to have to be like emotional support regulation, like all
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these extra things.
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So.
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And you didn't get a book?
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No we didn't get a book.
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You didn't get a book?
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You got a book?
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I didn't get the book.
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I didn't get a book.
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I mean I need a book but just knowing and it does help.
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We tell our parents you know like I'm a parent.
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I have struggles with my kids.
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You know it's not us calling you out.
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It's just an extra layer of support.
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It's part of your tribe.
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Trying to get some help while it's available.
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That's wonderful.
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Alright, alright.
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How can we get in touch with you if we got questions or what say you, what what?
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What what?
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So if you are interested in getting your child involved with us, any of the our mental
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health coaches can they have all of our referral information and I've got an email address.
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Bluegrass Counseling and Trauma Services is we have a website.
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You can reach us through there but right now the mental health coaches are the easiest
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way and we have very regular communication with them.
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So we stay in constant contact.
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That's what's up.
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You heard it here.
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This is how you can get in touch with Lena.
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Lena, thank you so much for being on the show.
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It's been fun.
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It's been very educational.
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I feel like I appreciate that little session we just had.
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So let me go home and.
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And you can always contact or call 859-233-4600 and ask for a mental health coach so that
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we can get you connected.
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