Transcript

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I'm Stefanie.
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I'm Meredith.
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And welcome to This Is My Circus.
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What's up?
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Nothing.
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You?
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No, no.
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I'm, you know, just chilling, chilling, chatting with my girl here.
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Yeah.
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Some, some giggles already.
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It seems to happen as soon as you walk in.
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I know.
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I feel like we should just like, cause we start recording so we can like, Get our bearings.
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Yeah, and so we're we just kind of ease into it But didn't like some of the funniest stuff we say is before the intro So sometimes we'll just have to and that's why the people are gonna want to get this.
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They do once we start that Process.
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Yes, which is coming soon coming soon.
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I think it'd be really cool to have it ready for our That would be great and I'm so excited for our spooky month.
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You have come up with some of the cutest ideas and I'm working on our books.
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Do we want to give the people a little touch of what it's going to be?
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I think so.
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Okay, go for it.
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Um, so I was thinking that we would do every week in October, a different theme, um, like a spooky theme.
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So like one week would be like vampires and one week would be like witches or cults.
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Um, And then our big drum roll.
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Oh, what else?
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What else did I say?
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Vampires, ghosts and witches.
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Was that it?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Um, and then our final, when we get dressed up in our costumes is, our spooky circus.
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Dude.
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That was awesome.
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There is a song about a spooky circus.
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Yeah, shut up.
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Yeah, cool.
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I have to find it.
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Yeah.
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but yeah, I'm so excited for October.
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I am too.
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I'm looking forward to October.
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I love getting together and us chatting and doing this, but I think having a little bit more of a structure will help too.
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And that might be something that we decide we want to do.
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yeah.
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And not necessarily by month, but just to get a little bit more of a plan.
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Because I am all over the place as you've, as you know.
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Same.
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Um, our squirrels are like, yeah, they're like, um, on cocaine.
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Yes.
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Did you ever see the movie that came out a couple years ago, Cocaine Banger?
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We did too.
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But did you see that last summer or I think it was last summer that there was a bunch of drug runners going from Cuba and dropping cocaine in the ocean and all the sharks?
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No, I didn't see that.
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We're ingesting it, and then so you know how they track the patterns of the sharks, for shark week and stuff?
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Right.
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Sharks were going like, all over.
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That is, I hate that.
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I don't want any animals to be affected by the stupid stuff that humans do, but that's kind of fun.
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Yeah, well, they're tagged and so their radar was probably just like the, um, drug boats though.
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Oh yeah.
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There was police or something in the ocean, like, oh, bottom them.
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And so they threw stuff overboard.
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I can't believe that the sharks would eat that.
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Maybe it was a choice.
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Maybe it was.
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And it got in your way and I don't know.
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Well, I mean, if like you just go through like a big puff, like Oh, that's true.
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A puff.
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So me, in my head I'm picturing like it goes in and hits the bottom and it explodes.
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Okay.
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And the sharks are like, okay, I am picturing like an old timey, not even old timey, but like from a cartoon wooden crate that like the road runner would push off.
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Or like they just thought it was like food, you know, I mean, they're in a bundle.
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Yeah, and they just bit into it.
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You know, if we have any cocaine runners, let us know what I mean.
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Allegedly, you can be anonymous.
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Well, I just saw, a truck.
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Going from Mexico to the States.
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It was like, One of the big tractor trailer trucks.
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Yeah, that was 18 wheeler kind of thing.
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Yeah, that was, bringing watermelons into the country.
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Well, they had, I think, I don't remember the exact number, but it was like a ton of fentanyl that was bundled up.
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Oh.
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And then wrapped like a, to make it look like a watermelon.
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And it was like mixed into the watermelons.
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Get that stuff out of here, but it was in like a bundle.
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Yeah, and then they wrapped it up I'm glad they found it But then they showed pictures of the wrapped watermelon and it was such a bad was it bad bad job I wonder how that got caught too.
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I guess going through one of the the way station scanners, I guess or something I don't know if you're a way station guy call us and let us know Call us call it We can start doing our own war of the roses.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'm glad fentanyl that's a just a dirty dirty.
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Yeah, but it was I mean a ton that was Street value, whatever the street value.
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It was insane.
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Yeah.
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what was in that truck?
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Yeah, let's keep that out of here.
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Take that back.
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Yes, please.
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No, no good here.
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So, uh, I don't know if I told you, and I know you saw my Facebook post, but Jackson finally got his permit.
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I, yes.
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After I had to hold out that smack, on him getting it.
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And it was so funny.
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There was some.
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Other people there that we knew too, because we went that Tuesday after Labor Day, where they were supposed to be out of school, but they just had e learning.
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So, Gabriel which we talked about his siblings, last week, he was in there too, and then some other kids that they knew.
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So, Jackson was the first one in line though, and he came out and like, yeah, you know, we were all so excited.
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did not let him drive home from the DMV though.
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Did you let Dylan drive home like right from the DMV?
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I just didn't feel like that was the best choice.
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I probably shouldn't be saying this Dylan.
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I started teaching Dylan how to drive like way before.
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Oh yeah.
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yes.
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like church parking lots up and down our dirt road.
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Right.
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Right.
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that was his birthday and we went shopping right after.
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Okay.
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And so no, he did not drive right after.
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Cause we were like, we're out and about out and about and stuff.
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Um, but our fake, yeah, I think we did.
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Oh my gosh.
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Okay.
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So we went to the website.
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That's like S C D M V dot, whatever, whatever.
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And took the official South Carolina driver's test.
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It was not the official, it was the test.
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It was a permit practice test.
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Yes.
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were you in Pennsylvania when you first got your permit or license and stuff?
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I was in North Carolina, which still, what'd you get?
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On the practice test?
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Yes.
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At 87.
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Me too.
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I got a 60.
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The first time I took that test, I got a six zero.
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I don't know what happened.
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I'm probably just a bad driver.
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I could not believe it.
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I really don't feel like those are the questions, though, that we would have gotten on an actual test.
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No! I can't even remember what mine were.
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I don't either.
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But, they do, I mean, they have like a pool of Right, 300 or something.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I think I just got, the, most basic, What is the, it was, what is the shape of a stop sign?
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Like, The questions that I got, so I think I just got those, okay.
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Insanely easy version of that test.
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Well, I, so I took it and got the 60 and was like, what the crap?
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And, Brian was like, well, let me take it.
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You know, and Brian is one of those people that can drive anything.
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Like if he got put in an airplane, I have no doubt that he could just drive there.
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Like he can do, okay.
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Weirdest flex in the world to be able to back up a trailer or like a jet ski with it on a, on a, um, trailer, but with a truck.
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No.
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So Brian can do all that kind of stuff.
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He can drive like a tractor.
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He can drive like anything this dude could drive.
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So he's like, let me see what I get.
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Okay.
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He got like a 95 or something, something really high.
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And I was like, gosh.
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And his questions were, What sign?
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I remember once one of them was which sign is a red octagon?
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Yeah, I remember the one that I missed was what color is a yield sign and I was like, oh, it's yellow.
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It's red.
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Right.
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It's red.
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Because you still are supposed to stop, I guess.
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So anything to do with stop is red.
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I guess.
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I would have said yellow too.
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I just made all that up.
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So, anyway.
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I would have said yellow.
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Yeah.
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I would have gotten that one wrong too.
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Well.
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I don't pay attention enough to the squirrel.
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Right, right.
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And I think it's just one of the things where we see it so much don't really think about it anymore.
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But I'm lucky if I remember how I got somewhere.
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Like, I just don't know.
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Do you do that though?
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Do you, or you go through, I do too.
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You go through a stoplight and you're like, crap, that was green, right?
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, and then I look up and see the car behind me going.
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And I think so much of it is just.
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Habit or just autopilot?
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Out of body experience.
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Have you ever had an outof body experience?
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Probably like when I was partying.
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Well, I don't know.
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I don't remember.
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I don't even, I did a lot of stupid stuff in my list.
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Well, I mean, so we work somewhere.
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And I felt like I like raised up and was looking down at what was going on and it wasn't even like I was having surgery or anything like that.
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It was like we were at church or something and it's like I felt like I was like taking in everything including myself from a different perspective.
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What did you ingest?
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Nothing.
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It was crazy though.
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Isn't that crazy?
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Yeah.
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I'll have to tell you a story after we're done.
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And, and if we We're back.
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Yeah, did you read our book?
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I did.
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Oh, well, you read it up before Okay, so this was all the little liars by Victoria Selman.
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Yes told across two timelines and tapping into a horrific crime, All the Little Liars is a gripping novel about toxic friendships, the ripple effect of murder, and sisterly love that asks, how much would you sacrifice to belong?
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California, 2003.
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Finn Cat Jackman is a 10 year old girl living with her tween sister, father, and beloved housekeeper.
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When a 13 year old girl disappears from a party at Turtle Lake and the word liar written in blood is discovered on the trunk of a nearby tree, Cat's life is turned upside down.
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What we know, three teenagers went to the lake that night, but only two came back.
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Later, they confessed to murdering their friend.
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But why?
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And did they act alone?
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And what was the involvement of the mysterious and alluring Mason like figure Ryan Grady?
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What really happened at Turtle Lake?
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You think you know.
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Think again.
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You think you know, but you have no idea.
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Okay.
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I liked this book.
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I liked this book a lot.
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It definitely kept my interest.
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I know you had said that, you know, it wasn't your favorite, but it kept your interest.
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I liked this one a lot.
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It was a slow start for me.
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once it picked up, I was in.
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So these books like this, Where there's like a whodunit kind of thing and you're going back in time.
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We read a lot of those.
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So many of the, of the, these books, they don't tell you what happens until later in the book.
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I want that sooner.
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I do too.
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But that's like their first twist, you know, like that.
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No.
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Yeah, I know, but I want it sooner.
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Yeah.
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So for me, it started a little slow, but I, again, I liked the book.
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I was, I mean, kept my attention.
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I was happy at the end, but I read it.
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I wouldn't read again, I was happy that I read it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I did like the 2 timelines and I like how they did the timelines.
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Yes.
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wasn't confusing.
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It was easy to follow.
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Right.
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and they were not so long that you forgot, like, which time period you were in.
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Right.
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And they weren't so sure that you.
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Went back and forth too much.
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Right.
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I liked those two.
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The only thing that threw me is with the audio book, I forgot that they were in London some and all of a sudden there was an accent.
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I'm like, wait a minute.
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Did I, did I space out and totally forget where I was?
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that was the only thing that was, and that was just me being an idiot.
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I did appreciate the accent though.
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Totally.
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It was very nice.
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It's very nice.
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yeah, I like the two timelines and the way that those were presented as well.
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All right.
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So we're going to go into spoilers.
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So if you haven't read it and you're going to read it, fast forward.
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I was a little taken aback at first finding out that the sister wasn't the murdered one.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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Because the whole time I'm thinking the sister got murdered.
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Yeah.
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And that's why.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I guess I didn't put too much thought into it because I was just so anxious that they're not telling us what's going on.
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but yeah, I could see where that would have been a fun twist to like the sister.
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Yeah.
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But then as you read some more and you get into like how they're acting, well, I thought like the mean girls, yeah, we're going to murder the sister.
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And I thought that's where it was going.
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Right.
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so right when it wasn't that right.
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And I thought the dynamic of the girls was so on point.
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Yes.
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Typical middle school.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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A hundred percent.
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Um, I appreciated that.
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A hundred percent.
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Like I could see those girls and I could like see their body language and how they acted.
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Like the one girl was in the middle because she was like the power girl for a little bit and everybody was kind of deferring to her and mocking her.
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And then the power struggle.
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of her sister being the it girl.
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And then she was sitting in the middle and they were kind of trying to imitate how she acted.
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Or they were, the other one was upset that she took her spot.
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Like I could see that so clearly.
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my mom used to tell me like three girls is tough.
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Like two girls is fine.
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But when there's three, it's like, somebody's always going to be left out.
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And I was like, no, we're fine.
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You know?
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And Yeah, always right.
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Yeah.
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I thought as they were saying, like somebody else was involved, I thought it was going to be the dad.
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Yes.
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and I thought, like, I don't know.
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I don't know why I thought it was going to be the dad.
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I thought so too.
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I never thought it was, no, I was totally blown away with that.
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Like totally.
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But, In retrospect, it makes sense because she'd do anything.
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Yeah.
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what did you think about the cult aspect or like the teacher taking of it?
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Like that freaked me out.
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Freaking creepy.
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Yeah.
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It was so creepy.
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Because they didn't tell you at first he was a teacher.
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Like she found out when she went to school.
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Right.
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Or the little sister.
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So even just before that, just hearing how he was in that, Like when, when he was meeting with the girls and skeevy freaking pedophile, like terrible.
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And then, you know, a chapter or whatever later when she sees him at the school and knows that he's a teacher that just pissed me way off.
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why was he in jail?
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Do you remember?
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He, at the end?
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Yeah.
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because he lied to a federal officer about taking drugs.
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and no matter what, lying to a, a federal agent, in the book they said, is prison, is prison time.
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Yeah, I missed that.
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Um, but then, They somehow connected him to the pedophile stuff.
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Oh, because in his cellmate right at the mouth.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He was bragging.
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Yes.
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And said that they did it for him.
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I could, I mean, as terrible as, as that is though, I could really see, I don't know if teenage girls are impressionable.
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I'm sure they are.
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They just seem so much more mature than I was, but I could see.
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The power of a young male like that.
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Yeah.
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He, I think though, um, he chose girls.
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Yes.
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That would be right.
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And he had like a whole slew of them.
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He did.
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So there's my other question is how did no other girls come forward?
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That's a good question.
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Well, Lou was gone, right?
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No, but she just left because of the baby Lou.
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No, she was in child.
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She was on trial with right.
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And she went, Oh yeah.
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Why didn't she say anything?
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I guess at the end of the book, she said that she wanted to impress him and she was in love with him.
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And she wasn't because he was in love.
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I don't know why I just thought Once somebody says something like, usually it's like a, a trickle down effect.
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Yeah.
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Like more people come forward.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Lou is pregnant, right?
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So like how do they not connect the baby to the dude?
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Yeah.
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I don't know that I saw that coming though when she was speaking with the lisp.
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Mm-Hmm.
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I was like, oh yeah, I know who that is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You can't get one on me.
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What did you think of the end?
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That she sat in jail her entire life.
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And didn't even do the deed.
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The sister.
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Right.
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Why?
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I I understand her rationale now.
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Like don't, I'm up for parole.
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Y'all rock the boat, but why, why would you, but I mean, and because she wanted to impress dude, I get that.
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But then once you're over that and you're living in jail No dude's worth that.
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No, no dude is worth that.
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Except for my son.
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I'd go to jail for my son.
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Same.
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But for that petty No, and then Lou, well she died in jail, but Lou did the entire thing.
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Don't know.
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And I know she was pregnant too, like when she was eating the Snickers.
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Mm-Hmm.
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Did you pick her that after I thought, yeah.
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I thought that, I thought so too, but I was like, yeah, I know.
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Maybe not.
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Maybe I'm reading too much into it and it's gonna take a to the left turn.
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Yeah.
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Did you have any pregnancy cravings?
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Watermelon.
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Really?
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Mine was oranges.
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Really?
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That's funny.
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So I didn't find out I was pregnant until I was 12 weeks.
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Okay.
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Um, I hadn't gained any weight.
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Yeah.
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No other symptoms.
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Yeah.
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Other than I couldn't stop eating oranges.
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And I would buy like, like the 10 pound bags of oranges and Brighton would take one.
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And I was like, those are mine.
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Right.
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What are you doing?
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I had oranges in my purse.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like, that's so funny.
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I was like, Obsessed with oranges.
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That is funny.
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Yeah, I craved water.
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And it worked out good because Jackson was born in July.
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So watermelons everywhere, but I ate several watermelons a week.
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Yeah, and I knew I was pregnant at like five weeks Because Brian and I had been trying for so long and it's like in that moment like when you're one day late You're like, oh, yeah, I was still getting my cycle.
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I mean like I was still oh, yeah up until my fourth month Buddies are so crazy aren't they?
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Um, so I hadn't gained any weight at all.
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I mean nothing It was just like absolutely nothing other than and Brandon's like you are pregnant and I'm like, I am not we were not trying Yeah, um, I was like I am not I just have my period like yeah, not pregnant, right?
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And he's like I would I bet you anything.
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He's like, this is weird the oranges Everywhere like you're putting them in your pockets and hoarding them from him.
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That's great.
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That's great And I was like, i'm gonna prove you wrong.
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So I took a pregnancy test and It was a shock.
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yeah, he, he wasn't shocked.
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I was shocked.
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Yeah.
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So I told you, I went to the doctor, the next day to, and then when I did the ultrasound, there was a whole baby in there.
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It wasn't like a little speck.
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That's pretty far.
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It was a whole baby in there.
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Like that's like your first, through your first trimester head, everything.
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I mean, I was like a body and I was like, whoops, that's so funny.
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Yeah.
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It was, it was weird.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Did you like being pregnant?
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No, I was sick the entire time I was pregnant.
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Like, vomiting, I, so Jackson was born on a Monday.
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On Saturday, I can like vividly remember what I was doing I was getting sick and he was born that Monday.
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Like, I threw up my entire pregnancy.
18:56
Yeah.
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What about you?
18:57
I, I did not enjoy being pregnant and I had the easiest pregnancy.
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I swear to God.
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I, again, didn't know I was pregnant.
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Yeah.
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First trimester was great, but I never had any other than my last month.
19:09
I had so much like retained so much water.
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and then I worked in an office where everybody, you know, it was like a, just a big giant place.
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And you weren't allowed to wear like flip flops.
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You had to wear like regular, whatever.
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Dress not dry shoes didn't have to be dry shoes, but this is casual I couldn't get shoes on my feet because I think yeah And so I had flip flops on and like somebody complained to my boss and my boss who was super super nice Was just like I don't care about it.
19:36
But you just have to get something from your doctor saying that.
19:40
Yeah, that it's required that you do this.
19:43
yeah, I was sick the whole time and I had some, breathing.
19:46
I had like, asthma issues.
19:47
So, Jackson was born premature.
19:49
Jackson was supposed to be born the end of August, but he was born in July and because I had all the breathing issues, they had put me on steroids and I really attribute Jackson being well developed after, you know, cause that early he could have had a ton of like lung issues, but his lungs were fine because of that.
20:06
But yeah, now my delivery.
20:08
Even though I had some hiccups in it, it was short, simple, like nothing major.
20:15
I would, I would deliver 15 more babies, but carry them.
20:18
No.
20:19
No.
20:20
Neither.
20:22
I had a C section, though.
20:23
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm sure.
20:24
I had a scheduled C section.
20:24
I mean, it was like, pre scheduled.
20:26
Because he was so big, right?
20:27
No, um, he was just positioned funny, Okay.
20:31
but he Swallowed so much fluid.
20:35
No coming out that he, I mean, they rushed him to the NICU.
20:37
He wasn't breathing.
20:38
Yeah.
20:38
The whole, like knowing there's a human in there to freak you out, freak me out.
20:42
Cause he would push his little feet.
20:45
Oh, it was like alien.
20:47
Yeah.
20:47
Like I, it was like an alien.
20:49
Yeah.
20:49
It freaked me out.
20:50
It really, no, that part didn't bother me.
20:53
And I was, I worked at an office at the time too, at the eye doctor.
20:57
So I was on my feet all the time.
20:59
Like all the time.
21:00
I worked up until that Friday that he was born that next Monday.
21:04
Alright, well, back to the book.
21:05
Where were we?
21:06
So.
21:08
The main character went through her entire life and it like totally deterred her whole life thinking she was a catalyst for this murder.
21:18
Could you imagine being a grown adult with this whole thing like for your entire life thinking that you caused this murder?
21:25
Yeah.
21:26
Finding out that Your sister knew you took the bracelet the entire time and you just not destroyed your life, but Oh, definitely feared off course.
21:35
Yeah.
21:36
Yeah The the heaviness of that.
21:39
Yeah, I could not imagine that is that's a lot That's a that's a lot and the fact that she never went back to look to see if the bracelet was still there And the sister had taken it back.
21:48
Yeah, like Like where I want to know where the bracelet is now when you moved like why didn't you right?
21:54
It's kind of like they kind of like up in the middle of the night though You Well, no, she was packing them that she found out.
21:59
I know.
21:59
I know.
22:00
I just, I know.
22:01
it made me wonder though.
22:03
Do you think that dad knew that, what was the nanny's name?
22:07
I forget.
22:08
Do you think he knew she was involved?
22:11
Well, they said that at the end.
22:12
That she told him.
22:13
Look, I'm surprised, what?
22:15
She told the dad?
22:16
Yeah.
22:17
In that letter that she wrote?
22:18
I don't know, like before that, well, that's when she told the daughter.
22:22
But, she told the dad like the next day, or Brian came home from work and had me all missing a lot.
22:27
I think.
22:28
Yeah.
22:28
So she talked.
22:29
What did he say?
22:30
Tell me all about.
22:31
Well, he was upset because he's a judge and now he's an accomplice because he knew about it because he can't turn around.
22:36
Because that's how they moved.
22:38
Right.
22:39
And she thought that the, Sister did it.
22:41
And that's why she was shoved her face in the.
22:46
What did you think about that too?
22:48
Like her whole thing was, um, you know, I'll do anything for y'all.
22:52
Well, if you're going to do anything.
22:55
Wouldn't you take the fall and not make her go to jail?
22:57
Yeah, that was one thing that they talked about too in the book that I was like, oh, that's interesting cuz I remember how I don't know if I like that name or not.
23:05
Sometimes I really do and sometimes it's so stupid but she kind of belittled And, like left her plate on the table and that's so there's a help and right.
23:13
Yeah.
23:14
So, you know, with some of that revenge.
23:17
Yeah, think it probably made it easier.
23:20
Yeah, but I really do think she was trying to, protect because, if anybody came before she was actually gone, she would say that it.
23:28
Was the sister.
23:29
Yeah, but now that the sister even did it, but you might not have even known that the sister didn't do it right in that moment.
23:37
Right.
23:38
Yeah, I don't know, but she did tell and that's why they moved.
23:41
Yeah.
23:42
Because the judge that knew he couldn't do anything because everybody knew.
23:47
His daughter had admitted to this murder, but, um, that was one of the big reasons that they moved.
23:52
Yeah.
23:52
I promise I read it.
23:53
I know it sounds like I didn't.
23:55
Um, I liked the fact that, you know, a lot of times these books, when you find out what happened and you kind of get your resolution, then the book is done.
24:04
I'm glad they did a little bit of, um, reconciliation almost and her getting to see the dad.
24:10
And those kind of things.
24:11
I like having that little bit of, yeah, what are we going to do now?
24:14
Kind of thing.
24:15
And him saying her name.
24:17
Yeah.
24:18
After not speaking for so many years.
24:20
Yeah.
24:20
Yeah.
24:20
What was the girl's name the main character?
24:23
Izzy was a sister.
24:24
I can't remember.
24:25
They didn't say it often.
24:26
Cat.
24:27
Cat was what she changed her name to.
24:29
I can't remember.
24:30
I can't either.
24:30
what'd you give the book?
24:32
I would give it like a five and a half, six.
24:34
Okay.
24:34
Why not higher?
24:35
Because it was just a slow start for me.
24:37
Okay.
24:37
It didn't bring me in right away.
24:39
Sometimes it's even though you read it and you I liked it with it.
24:42
Yeah, still you see like, yeah I'd give like a seven.
24:45
Okay.
24:45
I liked this.
24:46
I really did like this one Thank goodness because I was starting to think that like we were cursed I was starting to think I didn't like reading anymore and that was going to make me so sad so I thought I brought you back.
24:57
Thanks for looping me back in so I have one for us Okay.
25:03
For next time.
25:04
So then our next book will be Anywhere You Run by Wanda Morris.
25:09
Okay.
25:10
Looks really good.
25:11
I heard the best story this week.
25:13
Oh! And it's not a story, it was, like, true.
25:15
Okay.
25:16
and we know that you love gators.
25:17
Yes! This 84 year old woman.
25:21
Okay.
25:22
So the headline said, Granny Punches Gator.
25:26
Oh, geez.
25:28
Oh my gosh.
25:29
That was like the headline.
25:30
So this woman is 84 years old.
25:32
She was from North Fort Myers, Florida, and she was walking her little dog, Like normal, I mean, yeah.
25:37
Yeah.
25:38
Her normal thing.
25:38
But they got a little bit closer to the pond.
25:40
That's by her place.
25:41
Mm-Hmm.
25:41
And she said that all she saw was eyes pop out.
25:43
Mm-Hmm.
25:44
And she was like, oh shoot.
25:45
And she said that, it lunged out and it was super fast.
25:50
Mm-Hmm.
25:50
And so she throws her dog up in the air, because she was afraid.
25:55
Yeah.
25:55
The hater was gonna lunge.
25:56
Sure.
25:57
Bit her leg and, a finger, she didn't bite the finger off, but like bit her fingers and her leg and she punched the gator in the face.
26:06
She turned around and ran.
26:08
She said she turned and she punched the gator in the face.
26:11
Go granny.
26:14
Go granny.
26:15
Picturing this?
26:16
Yes! Like this little frail.
26:20
That gator was a wimp.
26:22
If he couldn't take that punch.
26:23
I was probably shocked it like probably who fights back right the granny She must know people she wanted her dog safe good for her So she said that she is doing fine.
26:35
Um, she is in the hospital for her obviously for her wounds Yeah, but she just is very excited to get back to her dog at home.
26:41
Oh Yes.
26:43
Well, i'm glad that that she did that.
26:44
Yeah, but I thought that was that's crazy.
26:47
I saw a video this week.
26:50
Florida waters and it's like with Sunglasses that are polarized that like cut the glare and then regular sunglasses And when you have regular sunglasses and you see it's just like a water But with the polarized like you can see the gators in the water freaks me the beep out Like there's a lot of gators in those waters.
27:08
They're okay from afar.
27:09
Mm hmm.
27:10
My brother went hiking with His then girlfriend, they were doing whatever in Florida.
27:16
Yeah.
27:16
And there was a gator.
27:18
And his, I'm like 99 percent sure that he went up and like booped it.
27:24
And then took off running.
27:27
I'm like, how are you still alive?
27:30
Was this recent?
27:31
No.
27:31
Oh, okay.
27:32
A long one.
27:33
Yeah, okay, but oh my gosh.
27:36
Yeah, he just booked a flight to go to spain to run with the bulls next year I'm, like you are too old to be doing this crap.
27:42
I mean you can watch No, he wants to run.
27:45
I was like, People die doing that.
27:47
I know Does he know this?
27:50
Yes, he is five years older than I am.
27:51
He's 47.
27:52
He'll be 48 next year.
27:53
I mean, I'm all about making a bucket list and crossing things off, but go to Spain, period.
27:59
Don't, you don't have to do that.
28:01
No, thank you.
28:02
Oh my gosh, I would like to go to Spain though.
28:05
He's sure not doing that.
28:07
No, no, no, I don't want.
28:10
No.
28:11
Oh, gosh.
28:12
Your brother sounds like he's lived his life.
28:15
He has had a life.
28:16
Yes.
28:17
so like when we first started our podcast, we had talked about extraterrestrial things out west and things in the ocean.
28:25
did you hear about the hikers in Colorado?
28:27
No.
28:28
This week?
28:30
Well, it wasn't this week.
28:30
The news was this week.
28:32
so two women were hiking, um, in Colorado.
28:36
Mm hmm.
28:37
And they, of course, were taking pictures and whatever while they were doing their thing.
28:41
And when they got home, they were, showing their family on the big TV.
28:46
Mm hmm.
28:46
Like all their photos.
28:47
Yeah.
28:48
And so it was blown up.
28:49
Which, time out, people don't want to be held hostage and see your family photos.
28:53
Time in.
28:55
Don't do that.
28:57
Um, so it was on the huge tv.
28:59
Yeah.
29:00
They see this creature.
29:02
Scaling the mountain.
29:04
Shut up.
29:05
Scaling the mountain.
29:07
So it was like a human, like grayish figure.
29:11
Okay.
29:11
I mean, you can see it's fine.
29:13
You can see it's limbs and it's like, scaling the mountain.
29:15
So a, specialist or whatever, looked at the photos and figured however they scale.
29:21
Right, right.
29:22
I don't know.
29:23
Science y stuff.
29:25
Not my forte.
29:26
Same.
29:26
Said it was about 20 feet tall.
29:29
It has to be a giant, right?
29:30
Like, yeah, if you can see something scale on a mountain and see that detail, yeah, but let me show you The picture it's crazy.
29:40
Oh That is crazy I thought you were gonna say, you know A lot of times when people do pictures you can see like auras in the pictures or this was a real figure That is craaaazy.
29:50
Bananas, Just don't let it bother me and it'll be fine.
29:53
You know, who doesn't want to go to colorado, but i've already been No, who's not going to the mountains, right?
30:01
That's crazy.
30:02
I know you can see the whole spine.
30:04
Yeah, and it's long like you could clearly see the shape.
30:07
Yeah, it's like humanoid Is that a real word?
30:11
Yes Right, but like distorted enough that it's not a human.
30:16
Yeah You It's like a giant.
30:17
Wow.
30:19
Right?
30:19
Yeah, I guess.
30:21
And we had talked about giants before.
30:23
All these supposed sightings and things.
30:26
I don't know.
30:26
So there's something about the Western U.
30:28
S.
30:29
though, because that's where like Sasquatch is.
30:32
They can keep it.
30:33
Yes.
30:34
Yes.
30:34
Fascinated by it.
30:36
I want to see it on TikTok, but don't, don't cross and come this way.
30:39
Oh, keep it up there.
30:41
Yes, please.
30:42
We probably have some weird, well, there is, and we will get into that in our spooky season.
30:46
Yes.
30:47
I've seen so many crazy things lately about shapeshifters oh, yeah.
30:55
we're going to have a great spooky season.
30:56
We might just turn into spooky people.
30:59
Maybe.
30:59
Maybe.
31:00
that's crazy.
31:01
That is crazy.
31:02
I'm trying to take my TikTok back and I finally convinced Brian and he was like, I don't like anything.
31:07
I don't share anything.
31:08
I said, yeah, but you're watching the whole video and that's what the algorithm is catching is that you're interested or you watch it multiple times.
31:17
Not a political podcast, but there was a debate last night.
31:20
Who cares?
31:21
Next subject.
31:23
What else?
31:23
Yeah, 48 hour vibe.
31:25
So we had quickly talked about this, but our favorite intuitive therapist, Nicole Eaton, is having her 48 hour vibe upgrade retreat, which I am going to in Florida.
31:37
It's the first weekend in October.
31:40
And, there are still some spots available.
31:43
So if anybody is interested, let me know, I'll get you all the info and I will be there so you get to hang out with me too.
31:49
That's right.
31:50
That's right.
31:50
I see me crying.
31:51
Yeah.
31:51
You might see me like ugly cry.
31:54
Cause I'm not a pretty crier.
31:55
Not either, but, it's going to be, I think, super, super great.
31:59
You get there Friday.
32:01
Friday is just like, we'll get to know you, go out to dinner, all food, other than Friday is included.
32:05
Okay, I was going to ask what is that covered in the price?
32:08
So Friday's the only night that like you go out anywhere.
32:10
Everything else is kind of contained.
32:12
Yes.
32:13
and Saturday is that what is Blocking you, internally, you know, what, what's wrong with, what's wrong with you.
32:24
There's a lot.
32:25
But it's like all your blocks and why you're not living the life that you want to live.
32:28
Yeah.
32:29
a lot of us, me, 100%, this applies to, and you don't even realize it.
32:34
Either the way you grew up or whatever, you know, those little voices that like, you're, you're not good enough or whatever.
32:41
So that's really like hitting on what your blocks are in your life.
32:44
And then the following day, Sunday is the.
32:48
Make your life better like what how we all fix it.
32:50
Yeah, so they're gonna do something like hypnosis Sessions and like all sorts of really cool stuff.
32:57
I'm so so freakin excited Yeah, so if anybody else is interested and this isn't just like therapy quote unquote therapy, but like this is to You know it it affects your relationships your your Work if you have a business it can totally affect all that So if you're feeling stuck in life if you're feeling like you're just kind of not yourself Yeah, this is a perfect opportunity I think they do it once or twice a year.
33:24
I'm not sure if they do it twice a year so and where is it?
33:27
it's in orlando and they just posted pictures of the house It's nice.
33:32
I was gonna say it, it is pretty private too.
33:35
There's, it's not like there's 700 people that are gonna be No, no.
33:37
It's a small, very intimate group.
33:39
Mm-Hmm.
33:39
I'm not sure exactly how many people, but they keep it very, yeah.
33:44
Small.
33:44
Yeah.
33:45
That's gonna be great.
33:46
Yeah.
33:46
on Friday you can opt in for a early check-in Mm-Hmm.
33:50
Um, and then you get a,, I forgot what they call it, like a, like a early kickoff with them.
33:54
Okay.
33:54
So like an extra session?
33:56
Yeah.
33:56
Did you do that?
33:57
I did.
33:57
Good.
33:58
Good.
33:58
Yeah, I know.
33:59
I think I need all the help I can get.
34:01
Are you kidding me?
34:02
I think you're, I think you're really brave to do something like this because I would be, I'm kind of scared on what, I am so out of my comfort zone.
34:10
Yeah.
34:10
And that was like, kind of.
34:12
After everything that's gone on this year, one of my goals is to like, really get out of my comfort zone.
34:18
It's so easy to, just to be comfortable in your bubble.
34:21
Yeah.
34:21
yeah, but, you know, I, that's how you get stuck.
34:24
I think for me, this doesn't apply for everybody.
34:26
I'm just talking for myself.
34:27
Right.
34:27
But I really needed to, expand my horizons.
34:33
Yeah.
34:33
So totally nervous, like scared to do it, but I'm excited to do it now to go and have a good time and to hang out and do dinner and sit and chat.
34:43
That sounds lovely.
34:44
It's the digging deeper part.
34:46
Yeah.
34:46
I think we all get scared of that, you know, but it is, it is good for us to do.
34:50
But even me, like just going there, like without another person that is so far out of my comfort zone.
34:56
I'm proud of you.
34:57
It yeah, I'm proud of you.
34:58
You're gonna have it.
34:59
It's gonna be really good for you.
35:00
It's gonna be I hope so I know it will be i'll be texting you like ugly It's sunday and they say there's nothing they can do to fix me I'm, just kidding.
35:13
It I think it's gonna be a really freeing thing.
35:15
Like of course that saturday it's gonna feel you know Oh, it's gonna be heavy and i'm sure that it's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be worse before it's better.
35:24
Yes.
35:25
Yes.
35:25
But, yes, we'll see.
35:26
But that, yeah, I'm, I'm proud of you.
35:28
I can't wait for that.
35:29
So if anybody else is interested, let me know.
35:31
We'll get you all the info.
35:32
she does have a couple of spots left, not many, but, there is a couple of spots and you'll get to see me.
35:37
You can see Steph.
35:38
Oh, do I need to walk Rex while you're gone?
35:40
I don't want to be here.
35:43
Let's stop by for a visit.
35:47
Did you see that active, sorry, totally switching lanes, um, the active shooter in Kentucky that was on the highway?
35:53
No, there's been so much this week with that stuff.
35:56
I didn't get the full story.
35:57
I just thought it was part of the story.
35:59
Y'all can research the story if you want, but there was an active shooter on I 75.
36:03
Okay.
36:04
Kentucky, like shooting at random cars.
36:06
That's seriously an episode of Criminal Minds.
36:08
That seriously was an episode that happened.
36:11
There was a school bus on the highway and the truckers surrounded the bus to protect the children.
36:17
So, like, amazing.
36:20
Such a awesome.
36:22
That's a selfless thing to do.
36:23
Awesome thing to do.
36:24
Yeah.
36:24
So, good job truckers.
36:27
Yeah.
36:28
Yeah, way to, yeah, step up.
36:31
That's amazing.
36:32
Yeah, that's amazing.
36:33
Um, well, this week we did have the, shooting in Georgia, the 14 year old who I can't remember how many he shot, but four were killed.
36:41
he was taken alive and he is.
36:45
In the system doing all the things that you do when you get caught, he's already had an appearance and they, did you see that they, arrested his dad?
36:52
No.
36:52
So his dad bought him the gun and gave it to him when he already knew there was a problem.
36:58
So they're charging him with some.
37:01
Good.
37:01
Some things.
37:02
And I, I, if I remember correctly, could end up being up to 180 years in jail.
37:08
The dad for buying that.
37:10
and then there's locally been some threats.
37:13
just know there were like 35 schools, I guess somebody just copied and pasted the same threat to like four counties, I think.
37:21
So there's just been a lot of stuff.
37:22
And I don't know if this was true or not.
37:24
I just saw a comment on somebody else's post.
37:26
So I have no clue if this is legit, but somebody said that they found the person that posted this and it was like a 12 year old kid.
37:36
I guess like a quote unquote prank, but not funny.
37:38
Not funny.
37:39
Yeah.
37:39
Not funny.
37:40
So all those parents, I mean, I had seen so many parents that were affected.
37:44
Right.
37:45
Yeah.
37:46
Yeah.
37:46
There were several on my Facebook feed.
37:47
They were like, I'm going to get so and so.
37:49
I'm going to get, I don't want to ever find out what I would do in that situation.
37:53
When Dylan was in elementary school, still, there was a manhunt.
37:59
And then he did it locked out of the school, which we didn't find out until after.
38:03
Yeah.
38:03
Which I think is fair.
38:05
Right.
38:05
You don't want all the parents running up to the school.
38:06
Well, and they're focusing on keeping everybody safe at that moment.
38:10
That's fine.
38:10
Focus on my kid.
38:11
Yeah.
38:11
Yeah.
38:11
100 keep my kids.
38:12
Yes.
38:13
but that was after the fact, not knowing that it was going on.
38:18
Yeah.
38:18
So, yeah, Jackson had 1, in elementary schools.
38:22
Well, it might have been the same thing.
38:24
I can't remember exactly when it was, but it probably was.
38:26
I think they locked down all the schools and probably and, his was like, 1 of the lockdowns where he had to, like, Get like hidden.
38:34
Yeah.
38:34
there's different codes for that stuff.
38:36
I don't know what it is, but they locked all the doors and the kids had to get in certain spot, whatever.
38:39
And I said, baby, were you scared?
38:40
You know what?
38:41
I said, mama, I just prayed.
38:43
I just prayed.
38:44
I was like, Oh, my gosh.
38:45
Well, Dylan's teacher.
38:47
I, they did some kind of game while they were doing whatever, the writing thing.
38:51
And cause he was little, I mean, like, I don't remember how old he was, but it was like second grade maybe?
38:56
Yeah.
38:57
Yeah.
38:57
First grade.
38:58
Yeah.
38:59
so I can't imagine being a teacher in that situation.
39:00
I All Well, and you know, it's, it's teachers sign up to teach.
39:05
Yeah.
39:05
They don't sign up to be teachers.
39:07
But I know that they do so much for the kid.
39:09
I mean, those are their kids.
39:10
Yeah.
39:11
I don't know what state it was in.
39:12
there was a student, who was just acting like an idiot.
39:15
he threw a chair at the teacher and the teacher caught it, threw another chair at the teacher, teacher blocked it, the third one she couldn't block.
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And it hit her eye and she lost her eye.
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Oh my gosh.
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But it was like a early teenager, 13, 14, just acting a fool in class and didn't want to get disciplined.
39:34
Jackson had a chair thrown at him a couple years ago.
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So I won't tell the story.
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So he was in eighth grade and there was a kid in his school who, had some, special needs and He had uncontrollable anger, and he was a really big kid.
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And Jackson was pretty friendly, kind of like Dylan.
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Everybody likes him.
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I mean, they chill with this group, this group, they're fine.
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And, he and Jackson had lunch together, and had a class together.
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And, uh, They were in class, and I can't remember the exact situation, but something triggered the kid, and he got up and threw a chair, and it just happened to be at Jackson, and Jackson, I said, what'd you do, bud?
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He was like, I was bobbing and weaving, mama, I was bobbing and weaving, and it didn't hit him, thank goodness, it didn't hit anybody, and they were able to get the kid out of there, but but yeah, I was like, bud, what, why did he said, mama, I I just sat down beside him and had lunch with him and we were talking and having a good time.
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And then he did that.
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He said, I know he didn't mean to, but I was just glad I had my cat like reflexes.
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So, um, so yeah, it's crazy.
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I'm, I'm glad that nobody was hurt in that situation.
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But, I love that.
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Our kids are so kind hearted and tried to include everybody.
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Yeah.
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and they've been so nice since.
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They were little.
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Yes.
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I'll never, never, ever forget.
40:57
We've talked about this before, Dylan and Jackson, when they were little and like they were friends, but not like best friend.
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Yeah.
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And I was so surprised when Dylan wanted Jackson to come to his birthday party that year.
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I was like, are you sure?
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Like the right.
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Cause there, there's a little age difference there.
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And like I said, they weren't like, we don't live in the same neighborhood.
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They weren't BFS or anything, but, but we had a good time.
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There was, a special needs kid in Dylan's class, all through school.
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I mean, like he was in the regular classes, I mean, from 1st grade, Dylan just.
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Yeah, would always include him everything and The last day of school they had it brought home.
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They're their little coloring book.
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Whatever.
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Yeah books Yeah and it said what was your favorite part about first grade and Dylan drew Jacob on the swing and said pushing my friend Jacob on the swings That is so sweet.
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And so I sent a picture to his mom She's like I'm crying That is so sweet.
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So, yeah, that, no, that's really sweet.
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Our boys have, have always been sweet kids.
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now they're BFFs.
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They rag them hard.
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Yeah.
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But they're not, bullies that just look for kids that, you know, are different than them for whatever reason to, to bully them.
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but yeah, if you're like they're, they're ride or die, there is no, like no help.
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we stopped and picked up my friend Banthony the other day, um, and took him and his brother to school and, Actually the first first day was just just Banthony and he gets in the car and I I let Jackson He won't have ox in the morning.
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So he listens to his stuff.
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Whatever.
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Well, he's Banthony that.
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Yeah, this ear things his wires in now.
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It's like Bud, what are you doing?
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He was like, my brother up here, his music tastes terrible.
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Like they were just ragging each other hard about their music.
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Like apparently they have different tastes in music.
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So stopped yesterday, picked up both of them.
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And what are we listening to on the radio today, brother?
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Is what they said.
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Like they just give each other so much about everything.
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Yeah.
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they've got homecoming coming up and Jackson has decided to go and I'm so excited.
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To the dance?
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Yes.
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I'm so happy for him.
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He, he wasn't going to go, wasn't going to go.
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And, Brian and I had a big talk with him this weekend, like, dude, if you don't want to go because you don't want to go, that's fine.
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But if you're not going because your friends aren't going, I don't want you to, you know, miss out and to, to do the things.
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So, um, he's going.
43:27
It's funny that you had said that Dylan's a junior this year and they are in such a small school.
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So they have senior prom.
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To be like, I can't believe I'm a junior this year.
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And I'm like, yeah, let's not talk about it, but are you going to go to prom?
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And he's like, well, it's just not my thing.
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And I'm like, experience it all.
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Yeah.
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Like enjoy it while you can.
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You only get two shots.
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I mean, like, you feel like the things you're going to miss out, like you're going to think back and be like, I should have done it.
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Yes.
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you know how we sometimes talk about things Brian does that surprises us?
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Yes.
43:59
Brian went to like four proms, five proms.
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Yeah.
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He was apparently the dude that was.
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Fun to take.
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is he a dancer?
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Not a good one.
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Does he try?
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Yes.
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And it's, as long as he's out there, like having fun.
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No, he won't.
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I won't do it anymore.
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And I don't, I think he probably would have when he was younger, but he's not like a, like a boogie or now, but, um, but I think he, you know, he's, he's easy going and he's fun.
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He's handsome as can be and so yeah, he went to a lot of proms with with friends he's engaged before me.
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No.
44:35
Oh, we'll have to tell that story another day That can be on the witch episode.
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Oh, I'm excited.
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That tea is going to be piping hot.
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No, the tea, the cauldron.
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The cauldron.
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That's where it is.
44:49
Okay, cool.
44:50
Yeah.
44:50
Gosh, we've been talking a long time.
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You got a lot of editing to do, my friend.
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It is what it is.
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Are we ready for M I D A Hole?
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Yeah.
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Am I the a hole for laughing in my sister in law's face when she DNA tested my daughter?
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Oh, this is new too.
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You're doing really good with this.
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You're doing much better with this than I am with my blood.
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This is mind admissions.
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Okay.
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I have a 30 year old male.
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I have a daughter who's 6.
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I'm not biologically related to her at all.
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There is no blood relation between us.
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I was friends with her mother for most of my childhood.
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We were never involved romantically and were always just friends.
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She had her daughter at 23 with her 25 year old husband.
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When my daughter was a newborn, about three months technically, both her mother and father were killed.
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I won't go into much detail for privacy reasons, but it was a workplace shooting.
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My friend and her husband had worked in the same building and both were killed.
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Both my friend and her husband had grown up with less than ideal families and didn't have any siblings.
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So there wasn't any next of kin for their daughter to go to.
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However, because I was close with them, I was able to adopt her.
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That's beautiful.
45:56
Even though I had been iffy about the idea of kids, I didn't want their daughter to grow up in foster care or around people who didn't have a connection to her bio parent.
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So I stepped in.
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My parents and siblings know that my daughter is not my actual daughter, biologically speaking.
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My daughter, I'll call Lily for the post, also knows that she's adopted.
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I never really hid the fact that she was adopted.
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She knows her parents are dead and were killed by a bad man, but I'm saving the details for when she's older.
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Lily does not look like me at all.
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She looks exactly like her mother and biological dad.
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Most people assume that I'm her bio dad and that she just took after her mom.
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I don't ever really correct this when people assume because it just seems unnecessary.
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My brother has been with his fiance for about two years now.
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A few weeks ago, we were all meeting up at my parents house and my sister in law saw an old picture of me, my friend, and her husband.
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She pointed to my friend and asked who she was and I explained it was Lily's mother.
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Sister in law got quiet and stood in front of the picture for a while.
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I didn't think much of it.
46:56
To clarify, she knows my friend died, but I guess didn't know that she had been married or that Lily is not my bio daughter.
47:02
I suppose she assumed my daughter was mine and my friend's bio daughter.
47:07
My sister in law got a DNA test done on my daughter behind my back.
47:10
She used my brother's DNA for the test and when it came back that they weren't related she knew that meant me and Lily weren't related.
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She came up to me with the results and waved them in my face saying I was just taking care of a dead woman's affair baby.
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She said this to me in front of my daughter.
47:25
I just stared at her for a while before bursting out laughing at this.
47:29
Told her I know Lily wasn't my biological daughter and that this thing called adoption exists.
47:35
Her face went red and she stormed off.
47:37
Brother is mad I embarrassed his fiancée.
47:39
But I said she embarrassed herself by DNA testing a kid that isn't hers and then parading the results up to me.
47:46
What did she want me to do?
47:47
What was her goal with this?
47:49
Did she want me to break down and abandon my daughter?
47:51
My brother said she thought she was doing the right thing and called me an a hole.
47:55
I don't feel like the a hole, especially considering my sister in law was the one who stuck her nose where it doesn't belong.
48:01
I'm asking for Reddit opinions, mostly for validation.
48:04
So was I the a hole.
48:06
He didn't do anything.
48:07
He is the a hole.
48:09
He literally did nothing.
48:11
And why would she do this in front of the kid?
48:13
Yeah.
48:15
Why?
48:15
Why would she do it?
48:16
Why would she do it in front of the kid?
48:18
And then why would you get mad when he's like, I know.
48:20
That's crazy.
48:21
I need some background info of like the dynamic, like was there.
48:25
issues.
48:26
Well, it sounds like she doesn't really, they've been together for two years, but I mean, that's that in two years, something like that comes up, you know, you have a conversation I would think like, or the brother would say like, Hey, just why didn't she question it to the brother?
48:39
Cause the brother could have cleared that up real quick.
48:41
So she did it behind the brother's back too, but no, because she's well, maybe she just took a hairbrush.
48:46
Yeah.
48:46
I don't know.
48:48
Yeah.
48:49
No, you dude, you are not, you are the angel in this situation.
48:53
Yes, update.
48:54
Oh, update.
48:55
Okay, spoiler, my brother thought I had been having an affair with Lily's mom and thought I was Lily's bio dad.
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He tricked my sister in law into believing that I was in a relationship with Lily's mom and was Lily's bio dad.
49:06
Sister in law then saw the picture of Lily's mom and her husband and assumed Lily was an affair child between the two of them and was being led on to believe I was Lily's bio dad.
49:17
So she should be mad at her husband.
49:19
Yeah.
49:20
My sister in law ended up coming to my house and apologizing, as well as telling me the full story.
49:25
My brother put her up to the DNA test.
49:29
When I first adopted Lily, my brother for some reason believed that Lily was my bio daughter.
49:33
He thought that me and Lily's mom were together and just weren't telling anyone.
49:37
He believes that when she got pregnant, Lily's mom told me that Lily was mine and she was going to just say it was her husband's And I was going to go along with it because I didn't really want kids.
49:47
Sister in law was under the impression I believed I was Lily's bio dad.
49:52
She saw the picture of Lily's mom and I, and after asking for clarification on who she was, assumed we were together in it, and then got suspicious when she saw the Other guy in the picture, Lily's actual bio dad, looked a lot like Lily.
50:06
I also want to clarify, I didn't tell her that Lily's bio dad was in the picture because she specifically pointed to Lily's mom.
50:12
And I assume she knew Lily was adopted.
50:14
I didn't know my brother had been telling her lies for nearly two years.
50:19
She got the DNA test out of her own suspicions, and my brother helped with the kit because he thought it would reveal that I was actually Lily's bio dad.
50:26
He manipulated her into thinking it would clear the air of suspicion, when really he was just trying to prove that I really, wasn't Lily's bio dad and lying about the reasons for adoption.
50:37
Well, of course, the results proved I wasn't Lily's bio dad and that my brother was wrong.
50:42
My brother felt too embarrassed to confess to his fiance that he had lied about the circumstances, which is why my sister in law confronted me with the results.
50:49
My sister in law also apologized for showing me the results in front of my daughter.
50:53
Good.
50:54
She told me that her mom had an affair and cheated on her father, got pregnant with another man's kid, and had let her father believe this kid was his.
51:00
Her father was devastated by this when he found out, and she grew very resentful of women who do that to their spouses.
51:07
She had wanted to sit me down and talk to me about it.
51:10
Without my daughter, but when she saw me with my daughter, she got angry thinking I was being led on to believe I was raising my daughter when I actually was raising another man's kid and she ended up exploding and immediately Waved the results in my face My sister in law does feel very guilty and she's angry at my brother for lying to her.
51:27
I'm not angry at her for doing the test because she thought she was doing the right thing.
51:31
I also forgave her for the way she told me about the results because clearly affairs are a sensitive subject to her and I can understand why she would have exploded like that.
51:39
I'm pretty sure she plans to break up with my brother now, and I don't blame her.
51:43
When I called and asked my brother about this, he admitted it.
51:46
When I asked why he would think, This he said that he couldn't think of a reason why a man who had been against having kids at the time would willingly Adopt a baby without having a blood connection to it.
51:55
He told sister in law I was Lily's bio dad and was aware of the fact He took it a step further and said that me and Lily's mom were together at the time of Lily's conception Both me and my parents are going low contact with my brother for a while now.
52:09
I know I'll forgive my brother eventually, but I can't do that right now.
52:12
He believed I was low enough to have an affair with a married woman, get her pregnant, and take no responsibility, allow her to pass the kid off as another man's, and then to only take responsibility because her died.
52:23
Wow.
52:23
Okay, but here's my problem with the way, she did it.
52:26
If her father.
52:28
found out and was so devastated about this.
52:31
Why would she tell this man the same thing in such a horrible way Yeah, to scar him like her dad was scarred.
52:41
She was probably doing it more to do it in front of the kid I know but like yeah, that's terrible.
52:46
There's a lot of issues?
52:49
Well, I mean, like there's, this is, this is a lot of drama about this kid who he already knew wasn't his, but it is his, but he, and he loves, like, I mean, he's obviously raising her as he thought of her.
53:02
Stay out of his business.
53:03
My gosh, this man is doing a fantastically great selfless thing.
53:07
And these people are just whatever.
53:10
Leave the man alone.
53:11
So she's not as much of a a hole, but she's still an a hole to me.
53:15
Yeah, she's still an a hole because of how she did it.
53:17
Yeah.
53:17
In front of the kid.
53:18
The kid is an innocent bystander regardless.
53:20
Yeah.
53:20
Even if that was the situation.
53:21
Right, right.
53:22
It's not good.
53:22
He's innocent.
53:23
Like, you can't control your parents.
53:24
Yeah.
53:24
and I don't think the brother's an a hole.
53:26
I just think the brother is an idiot.
53:29
I think he's an a hole.
53:30
I say, can he be both an idiot and an a hole?
53:33
100%.
53:34
But I think he's an a hole for lying to the girlfriend to get the girlfriend to do like, Oh, I forgot he lied to her.
53:40
What's wrong with my memory?
53:42
I thought he was just stupid because that's what he thought.
53:44
God.
53:46
I need some, what is it?
53:47
It's good for your memory.
53:48
Ginkgo globa?
53:50
I need some of that.
53:50
Do we have a ginkgo rep?
53:53
Will the interview be sponsored?
53:54
Yes.
53:54
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
53:57
Well, keep doing you, dude.
53:58
You're doing the good work.
53:59
You're not the ale.
54:00
No, most of these people who write in are not you know, it's like the people that are a holes don't have enough self realization to realize they're a holes.
54:12
So they don't want to write in or they don't want to be told they're an a hole.
54:15
But I think that all these people are getting told that they are the a hole and they need validation that they're not.
54:19
I get it.
54:20
And he even said that.
54:21
Yeah.
54:21
I mean, I get it.
54:22
You're not, you're good, dude.
54:23
You and Lily have a great life.
54:25
All right.
54:25
Well, that was fun.
54:28
It was something.
54:30
We've got so much fun stuff coming for, I cannot wait to, it's going to be so much fun.
54:36
So much fun.
54:36
Okay, cool.
54:37
Well, thank y'all for uh, sticking with us for almost two hours, however long you trim it down to.
54:42
I know.
54:43
yeah, we have been recording for almost two hours and if you subscribe, you would be able to get all of the cutouts and bloopers.
54:53
Y'all don't even want to know what we talked about, would they?
54:56
When Steph cut it, like y'all, I had no idea.
55:01
Okay.
55:01
So I talked about my college years.
55:03
Yeah.
55:04
And no, I say that no judgment.
55:06
I just, I had no idea.
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I was, I, yeah.
55:09
Anywho, that will get cut out either way.
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It'll still amaze me to hear.
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but you guys need to review us if you've not give us five stars.
55:22
Please do.
55:23
And then, like, subscribe.
55:25
Yep.
55:25
Do all the things.
55:26
Yep.
55:26
Tell a friend.
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And, we will talk to you next week.
55:30
Sounds good.
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Love y'all.
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Love you.
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Bye.