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Yesterday's Price is Not Today's w/ Zoba Martin · We Talk Back

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Speaker 1: We're just too unapologetically black women with an opinion. He
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Speaker 1: talks back. What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in
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Speaker 1: for a new episode of We Talked Back. I show
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Speaker 1: dedicated to you, Nick Is and Needs Hoes and everybody
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Speaker 1: else in between, your co host a J. What's up? Tim? Hey?
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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody is? Tim? Vam? I love y'all. Thank
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Speaker 1: y'all for tuning in again. What's up? A J? Nothing? Then?
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Speaker 1: What's it going now? And what are you doing? You
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Speaker 1: sound real, Charleston? Just now? I am shi, Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: sometimes you don't sound it just now? You sounded real,
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Speaker 1: like hey, box you and y'all A all right? Going forward?
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Speaker 1: I'm doing every episode like real, Gucci no, because people
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Speaker 1: need to understand what you're saying is a governed language.
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Speaker 1: They'll understand. What'd you do over the weekend? Did rachet
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Speaker 1: ship with my new group of friends? Okay? I went
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Speaker 1: to just outside, y'all. I went to like Christmas parties
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Speaker 1: and like hung up with white people. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: just really let I've been doing a lot of networking.
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Speaker 1: It's just great, not white people, beige people. Yes, I
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Speaker 1: have some new beige friends as well, but it's cool. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's been nice. So my friends, my best friend's husband
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Speaker 1: through her a surprise dinner because she got her I
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Speaker 1: think it's her second massages degree. I can't rely she got.
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Speaker 1: But so she didn't know nothing. So all of her
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Speaker 1: closest friends were there and most of us don't like
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Speaker 1: each other, but we got along real good for her. Then, Uh, Saturday,
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Speaker 1: we I had my annuals so I belonged to this group.
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Speaker 1: We do a gift exchange every Christmas. Is the twelfth
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Speaker 1: year in a row. I've only been participating for six years.
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Speaker 1: But uh, and we have a theme and we get together,
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Speaker 1: we exchange gifts. Is really nice. I did that. We
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Speaker 1: had a sneaker ball theme this year, which I really
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Speaker 1: hate sneaker balls because I feel like you're not supposed
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Speaker 1: to have on them shoes with those nice dresses. But
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Speaker 1: it's comfortable though, it's comfortable, but it ain't cute to me. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we have balls all the time. I've never been to
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Speaker 1: one though, like the little snaker balls, sneaker balls And
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Speaker 1: that was Oh and then I put up my Christmas tree.
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Speaker 1: I know I'm late for y'all. People's like, ain't no
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Speaker 1: point in putting it up Christmas is is the It
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Speaker 1: was the eleventh or something like that. So what's the
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Speaker 1: rule on when to put the Christmas tree up? I
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Speaker 1: think you gotta put it up the day before Thanksgiving
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Speaker 1: us something. Who's that that we got? Like what you
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Speaker 1: put it up the day after Halloween? Actually, girl, it's Halloween, Christmas, Christmas,
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Speaker 1: Christmas two days and Thanksgiving and then Christmas, Christmas, Christmas.
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Speaker 1: Why my home girl ain't never took her Christmas treet down.
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Speaker 1: She just put it in her spare room and took
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Speaker 1: that bitch back out, smart woman. It's nice too, a
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Speaker 1: really nice Christmas tree. I like my little Christmas tree.
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Speaker 1: My so, my face is pretty small, but I found
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Speaker 1: a Christmas tree that was like seven and a half
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Speaker 1: feet tall. Maybe it might even be taller than that,
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Speaker 1: but it's skinny. So if it's in my space, my
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Speaker 1: mama gonna say, my tree, look anna, rexy. It looks nice.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, it's nice. Balls on there and all that ship.
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Speaker 1: It's nice. Merry Christmas. Home. Well we got going on
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Speaker 1: the internet news this week line. Okay, so Britney Grinder
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Speaker 1: is home, Thank God, thanks Goddess that she's home. And
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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I don't like how our community
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Speaker 1: is welcoming her back. Jokes. It's so it's not just
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Speaker 1: jokes that is hilarious. Man. She's homesafe, in the arms
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Speaker 1: of her loved ones. She's not harmed. She ain't got
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Speaker 1: hurt locks no more. But I know somebody who can
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Speaker 1: add them back if she's still got them. She's okay,
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Speaker 1: we can make a little jokey joke, she's not okay.
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Speaker 1: We don't understand the mental language. I'm pretty sure that
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Speaker 1: she went through she not did over the last few months,
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Speaker 1: and she back home. She not in jail, she not
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Speaker 1: did she back home. We would never understand what she's
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Speaker 1: been through. So for for people not to be completely
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Speaker 1: um supportive of her return, it's disheartening to me. So
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Speaker 1: a lot of people have been talking about how the
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Speaker 1: swap wasn't even so they so britty grinder. She's back
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Speaker 1: in the US Thursday. Um, they swapped her for a
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Speaker 1: Victor Bout, nicknamed the Merchant of Death by his accusers,
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Speaker 1: his accusers being the United States of America. Okay, who
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Speaker 1: acquired this man from a whole another country. Let's be clear,
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Speaker 1: he wasn't caught in America. But about he's a former
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Speaker 1: Soviet military officer and he was serving a twenty five
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Speaker 1: years sentence in America for conspiring to kill Americans allegedly right, well,
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Speaker 1: not allegedly because he was um, I mean, he was convincing, right,
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Speaker 1: So they did the swap for him. So people are saying, like, oh,
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Speaker 1: they should have you know, gotten a couple other people
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Speaker 1: for him, like that, the crimes don't fit. We don't
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Speaker 1: know if this man was rightfully imprisoned in this country.
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Speaker 1: That's just another perspective I want to offer, right, because
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Speaker 1: why would they swap that type of person for uh
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Speaker 1: celebrity basketball player? Right? But we ain't gonna act like
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Speaker 1: she's just innocent now, Yeah, of course not. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: did the punishment fit the crime at all? And I
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Speaker 1: understand it being Russia, I think it was more it
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Speaker 1: doesn't fit the crime in the United States, but she
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Speaker 1: was not in the United States. And what people need
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Speaker 1: to understand is you can't you're not governed by the
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Speaker 1: laws of where you're from in other countries. You can't
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Speaker 1: just do what the funk you want. You can't go
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Speaker 1: over to Russia. They smoke your cartridges. You're not in
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Speaker 1: l a no more, bitch, you got by by the
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Speaker 1: laws of the land. So we know that a lot
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Speaker 1: of people commit crimes, they're just not calling right. So
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Speaker 1: what if it were you, I wouldn't give a funk
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Speaker 1: who they had to trade. Bring my bed home. That's
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Speaker 1: how I feel like. If I got to conversent and
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Speaker 1: get you, so, I don't care what other beige people
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Speaker 1: are still in prison over there, bring that black lady home,
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Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it. Yeah, I wanted her
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Speaker 1: to come home too, But I I'm going to correct
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Speaker 1: a little joke. I mean, you did some stupid shit,
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Speaker 1: but she smoked weed. She don't deserve nine years for that.
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Speaker 1: Nine No, I don't. I don't believe. I don't believe
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Speaker 1: she deserved that type of term for that. No. But
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Speaker 1: it's just not in America. You know, if you travel
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Speaker 1: what she she got, you know she's not a novice
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Speaker 1: to traveling. So you gotta understand it. You gotta learn
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Speaker 1: the laws of these places you're going to before you
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Speaker 1: end up in a broken down palace. They literally said
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Speaker 1: she was over there working to pay her child support
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Speaker 1: because she wasn't making enough money playing playing in the
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Speaker 1: w n B a in Americas. Now, this was her
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Speaker 1: last trip leaving Russia. She wasn't planning on going back
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Speaker 1: after that, and I think they knew that, and they
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Speaker 1: essentially kidnapped her as far as I'm concerned, and then
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Speaker 1: they extorted America for this other guy. Now it looks
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Speaker 1: good for the Democratic Party for Biden if he plans
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Speaker 1: on running a second um second term, because now you
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Speaker 1: have a black woman who's a part of the LGBTQ
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Speaker 1: community and like she's a celebrity. So to me, like
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Speaker 1: the whole ship has been so politicalized. I don't trust
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Speaker 1: none of it. It's just like it's acting as far
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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, But I don't know whether she was
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Speaker 1: a part of it or not. I'm happy she's home. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I doubt she's part of it because the way she
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Speaker 1: looked on their play coming home, she looks meek and humble.
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Speaker 1: Baby m m. They humbled hers because that I ain't forgot.
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Speaker 1: She used to be beating Beach's ass. She that's a
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Speaker 1: big bitch now a little damn. That's a big bitch.
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Speaker 1: But she she probably don't want no smoke with nobody
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Speaker 1: right now. She probably just wanted to welcome in Britain. Ye. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so uh, a man by the name of Patrick Xavier
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Speaker 1: Clark was arrested for the murder of Takeoff, a member
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Speaker 1: of the Meigo's rap group, so he asked the court
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Speaker 1: to grant him five thousand dollars to hire a private
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Speaker 1: investigator to help to prepare for his defense. And UM,
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, is he guilty? Why would you do that
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Speaker 1: if you were, you know, if you knew you had
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Speaker 1: kill somebody? Is that normal? I mean, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: I thought I was a lawyer. I didn't even know
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Speaker 1: that you could actually request something like that, but I
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Speaker 1: guess you can if you can get a public defender,
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Speaker 1: you know, somebody to represent you. So that's something else
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Speaker 1: he needs for his legal defense. UM, I personally don't
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Speaker 1: think that he is the shooter. There was multiple people
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Speaker 1: out there. I watched those videos multiple times, just the
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Speaker 1: the UM the altercation leading up to UM take Off
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Speaker 1: being shot, and I didn't see him. I didn't see
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Speaker 1: him in the video. I don't want I didn't watch that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I didn't see him, So I don't know. This ship
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Speaker 1: is real sketchy because remember initially after um take Off
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Speaker 1: as murder, they supposed he had this dude, a low
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Speaker 1: low something somebody that was first he was dead, then
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Speaker 1: he was actually on Twitter tweeting, and then like now
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Speaker 1: he's in jail for some other ship that they were
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Speaker 1: saying he was a shooter. But he looks like a
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Speaker 1: little boy, So I don't know, but I don't think
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Speaker 1: that they have the absolutely, and grown men use little
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Speaker 1: boys as crash dummies all the time, right, don't let
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Speaker 1: these old niggas use y'all young man. But um, I
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Speaker 1: don't think he's a shooter. And I mean he says
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Speaker 1: he needs um a private detective because he's innocent. He
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Speaker 1: needs somebody to do an independent um detective work to
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Speaker 1: Claire his name ship. I hope he gets justice and
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Speaker 1: I hope take off you say him or take off
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Speaker 1: both of them, Like yeah, I hope, Yeah, I hope.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if justice is putting his ass and fucking
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Speaker 1: jail because he actually shot take off, then so be
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Speaker 1: it just a speedy trial so they can get this
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Speaker 1: ship done done with. But but whoever really didn't need
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Speaker 1: to go down? Absolutely, Yeah, it's weird to me, the
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Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, alright, um did you see that? Did
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Speaker 1: y'all see did he had a baby? Mm hmm who it? Listen?
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Speaker 1: I didn't know at first. It was like an announcement
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Speaker 1: that did he had a baby, but nobody knew who
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Speaker 1: the mama was. But apparently the mom is a a Asian.
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Speaker 1: It's looking I'm not sure if she's Asian, but Asian
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Speaker 1: woman named Dana Tran a k a. Dana t. According
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Speaker 1: to the baby's birth certificate, Love Sean Coins was born
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Speaker 1: October fifteenth in Newport Beach, California, and did He is
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Speaker 1: listed as the father in the twenty eight year old
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Speaker 1: Dana Tran is the mother. H Uh, fifty three year old?
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Speaker 1: Did he? Corisha? Please come to the motherfucking podium, Come
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Speaker 1: to the podium, girl? What's up? What I mean? What
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Speaker 1: can Carisa say? They never were in a committed relationship, right?
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Speaker 1: They never admitted, They never said that they were committed.
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Speaker 1: And especially if the baby, the woman had to be
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Speaker 1: gotten pregnant at least nine months ago, I mean six
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Speaker 1: to nine months ago. I just feel like they were
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Speaker 1: even less close. Why don't um any of these women
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Speaker 1: think they deserve more? You know what I'm saying, Like,
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Speaker 1: why are you letting a fifty three year old front
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Speaker 1: play with you like this, even if you really because
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Speaker 1: there's some old man and not not the dogs off
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Speaker 1: that boos. Obviously did he healthy as fun? He started
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Speaker 1: here making babies obviously obviously, But man, I feel like
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Speaker 1: maybe she can't do better. I'm not gonna even give
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Speaker 1: her that type of grace. Maybe this is what she wants, obviously,
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Speaker 1: this is what she's signing up for, but I think
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Speaker 1: that she deserves better. Cassie knew she deserved better, and
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Speaker 1: how long it took to figure that? It did take
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Speaker 1: her a while and she got the funk up out
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Speaker 1: of there, but I still don't think that did He
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Speaker 1: was playing with her publicly like he's doing Kaisha, if
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Speaker 1: they have any type of even as a friendship, Karisia said,
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Speaker 1: I'm not mad, I'm trending. Next, I think this was
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Speaker 1: on Twitter and then she said, like she's out there
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Speaker 1: fighting for her life against these girls coming for her
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Speaker 1: girls and guys coming for her own Twitter she said,
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Speaker 1: did he won't even look half of y'all bitches, way
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Speaker 1: majority of y'all praying upon a falling star, bitch, Please
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Speaker 1: y'all want to laugh, Let's laugh, and a bunch of
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Speaker 1: laughing faces and then shut up, girl. If you're gonna
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Speaker 1: do it, don't even play the people no attention at
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Speaker 1: this point for sure. She also told academics to uh,
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Speaker 1: her name made dick, so keep it out his mouth,
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Speaker 1: and she said, you're the type of nigga that do
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Speaker 1: life sentence You're the type of nigga her uncle doing
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Speaker 1: life sentences behind. I don't know what the rest said
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Speaker 1: because it was bleeped out, but I think it's like something,
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Speaker 1: probably like gay, she said. I don't know, but I'm
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Speaker 1: nobody's side, bitch. Let's just make this clear on this
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Speaker 1: good Monday. I don't come second to no bitches may
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Speaker 1: come third, fourth, all right? I mean maybe y're all
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Speaker 1: standing side by side. I don't know how it worked.
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Speaker 1: I think it's whack man. I JT J T a
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Speaker 1: real nigger. I mean I probably I ain't gonna lie.
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Speaker 1: Did he was like? If did he slid in my DearS?
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Speaker 1: I'm probably anteggarty? Come on, man, what's wrong with? What's
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Speaker 1: wrong with me? Want to um see what the did
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Speaker 1: life look like? Girl? Anyway, I ain't I ain't trying
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Speaker 1: to have no baby with did he? But did he
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Speaker 1: want to take me to Santro pay, I might see
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Speaker 1: what's going on in Santra Pey. I ain't gonna lie. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be no baby mama, I don't
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Speaker 1: think neither. Karsha, Yeah, like you already got two kids
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Speaker 1: out of wedlock. I feel like she should probably make
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Speaker 1: better decisions at this point. No am I tripping? Like?
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Speaker 1: Do I have too much integrity? I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's integrity that the issue. Let's look
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Speaker 1: up the definition of integrity. Let's let's define it. Y'all
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Speaker 1: know I love definitions. The quality of being honest and
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Speaker 1: having strong moral principles, moral uprightness, the state of the
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Speaker 1: state of being whole and undivided. Uh so, internal consistency
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Speaker 1: or our lack of corruption and collect and electric data
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Speaker 1: whatever that means. Okay, So it's just like having what's
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Speaker 1: your where's your what's your moral compass? I know we
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Speaker 1: live in a world where everybody this night truth. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna live my truth. I could do what I want
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Speaker 1: to do, but you know, things have consequences, is especially
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Speaker 1: when you create in other humans. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: That's what I said. I wouldn't want to have a
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Speaker 1: baby by him, But I definitely would want to go
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Speaker 1: on a vacation. What's Where's what's wrong with that? Does
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Speaker 1: that mean I don't have integrity? Girl? Integrity and not
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Speaker 1: having integrity would be me like going on vacation with
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Speaker 1: a dukie? Why? Why? What's because he's because he's in
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Speaker 1: a committed relationship while he was in a committed relationship
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Speaker 1: with someone, and then that's deceitful? Did he don't commit
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Speaker 1: to nobody? Did he don't a lie of them? Girls?
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Speaker 1: I just wouldn't want to associate myself with somebody like Diddy.
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Speaker 1: So maybe that's what I'm thinking about when I say integrity?
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Speaker 1: Did he is not the type of person? And I
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Speaker 1: don't look, I'm not trying to get cancer like he did.
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Speaker 1: Wendy Williams asked, Okay, I just shut up. That's a
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Speaker 1: J Diddy. I would not associate myself but a man
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Speaker 1: like did he. I like men with a little bit more. Um,
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Speaker 1: just I don't know, just a better character. That dude
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Speaker 1: is not good. He's not, but okay, we can move on. Though,
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Speaker 1: we can move on a little bit. So um, y'all
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Speaker 1: know Tory Lanes and a big Meg. They in court
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Speaker 1: last two weeks now and um, so there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of things that's coming out on the defense and prosecution side.
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Speaker 1: I saw some commentary that said, like, the prosecutors really
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Speaker 1: weren't doing a good job proving their case like that,
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Speaker 1: it looked like the defense was kind of winning. So
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Speaker 1: during cross examination, the l a p D officer Sandra Cabro,
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Speaker 1: who pulled over the STUV Mega Stallion and Tory Lanes
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Speaker 1: was riding in um says Kelsey had blood and scratches
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Speaker 1: on her leg, plus a ripped strap on the left
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Speaker 1: side of her Babes suit. So clearly there was a fight.
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Speaker 1: Whoever called a police was like the neighbors or somebody
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Speaker 1: on the doorbell ringbell, the little doorbell ship. They heard
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Speaker 1: somebody saying dance bitch. They heard that. They also heard
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Speaker 1: the gunshots. But you know, there's no there's no video footage.
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Speaker 1: It's just all audio. M um, and so I don't
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Speaker 1: know exactly what the prosecution strategy is, but the defense
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Speaker 1: strategy is like really just making Meg to look like
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Speaker 1: the super ho who's working with Tory Lanes and a
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Speaker 1: couple of other people behind her best friend, right, And
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Speaker 1: I'm just confused as to how your best like you're
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Speaker 1: the artist, right, you're the one that that's working with
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Speaker 1: all these different people. How your best friend get access
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Speaker 1: to them in that way? You see her pictures of
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Speaker 1: her who are best friends? She fine? Oh god see
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Speaker 1: look you would know, bitch, I've seen her. But I
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Speaker 1: look at her in that lens. Okay, she or she
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Speaker 1: around for the party, she along with me, and she's
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Speaker 1: attractive woman. So I can see how she would be
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Speaker 1: able to have sex with these people or have you know,
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Speaker 1: interactions with these people. Yes, So prosecutors kick things off
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Speaker 1: on Monday, saying that whether they're claiming that Tory fired,
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Speaker 1: I've shots on the evening of July twelve, striking Megan
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Speaker 1: the foot, actually both feet, claiming Tory was set off
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Speaker 1: after Megan insulted um his skills by sarcastically calling him
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Speaker 1: a beautiful artist. I don't understand. Oh there, yeah, so
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Speaker 1: it sounds like a little man, right. I feel like
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Speaker 1: this is what I think happened. I feel like Tory
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Speaker 1: was I'm not to her. I feel like Meg was
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Speaker 1: beating both of the ass got the best of both
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Speaker 1: of them, and then she got shot. Regardless of what
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Speaker 1: does she deserve to be shot. People are calling her
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Speaker 1: a liar, but the fact that she's she didn't lie
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Speaker 1: about anything. She actually got shot or she was shot
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Speaker 1: at because it was bullet fragments that they took out
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Speaker 1: of her feet. She did initially thought, you know, she
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Speaker 1: had stepped on glass. It was the dog, it was
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Speaker 1: the hospital like that told her, no, there's a bullet
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Speaker 1: fragments in your foot, and let's not forget. Originally, she
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Speaker 1: didn't even want to fucking snitch on this nigger. And
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Speaker 1: maybe her head was turned. Maybe she doesn't know exactly
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Speaker 1: who did it. She just knows she got hurt in
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Speaker 1: the midst of all the rockets. I'm over how long
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Speaker 1: was this? This is before the pandemic started, ain't it? Goddamn?
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Speaker 1: This is during the pandemic. I'm over it. Who did it?
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Speaker 1: Who did it? Who did it? At this point? God damn,
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Speaker 1: this is the biggest case of a Scooba duo I
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Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. I think I feel like
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Speaker 1: Tory could have easily said, I don't shoot her homegirl?
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Speaker 1: Did you care about this way? Somebody the pull of
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Speaker 1: mask off. It was Red Harry, and I would have
20:47
Speaker 1: got away what it if it wasn't for you snotty kids,
20:54
Speaker 1: man's fucking kids. Anyway, like we're waiting to see the result.
21:00
Speaker 1: The story is still developing, so I mean we'll hear
21:03
Speaker 1: some more by the time y'all hear this goddamn episode. Anyway, y'all,
21:07
Speaker 1: we do have a special guest on we talked Back
21:09
Speaker 1: this week. Okay, we got Shazova Martin. She is a
21:14
Speaker 1: fashion designer born Nigerian, but she listened Toronto, Canada doing
21:19
Speaker 1: super Fly Ship. Y'all saw some of her pieces in
21:22
Speaker 1: one of a couple of a matter of fact, a
21:24
Speaker 1: couple of Drake videos. Okay, the shade will anyway, y'all
21:33
Speaker 1: stay tuned, we'll be right back, all right, y'all listen.
21:41
Speaker 1: So we do have a special guest on we talked
21:44
Speaker 1: Back this week. Okay, she's recently she was on the
21:48
Speaker 1: Canadian show Dragons then, which would be like the equivalent
21:52
Speaker 1: to America's Shark Team. Okay, Yeah. Martin is a super
21:59
Speaker 1: dope Nigerian born designer and founder of Zoba Martin, a
22:03
Speaker 1: luxury brand based in Toronto. Her pieces haven't seen at Canadians,
22:07
Speaker 1: you know, music awards and even a few of Drake's
22:10
Speaker 1: music videos. Okay, so um recently, I saw it. I
22:14
Speaker 1: don't know we saw it him, but she had a
22:17
Speaker 1: damn dress made out of toilet tissue on the shade room. Okay,
22:20
Speaker 1: and it was magnificent. Okay, it was beautiful. It was beautiful.
22:25
Speaker 1: Welcome to we talk back. Soba, hey girl, y'all don't
22:37
Speaker 1: hit me up on Instagram a couple of weeks ago
22:40
Speaker 1: and asked me to watch the clip of her on Dragons.
22:44
Speaker 1: Then she actually reached out to your girl for business advice. Okay,
22:48
Speaker 1: so some of y'all, do you listening to me? I'm
22:50
Speaker 1: not just a crazy motherfucker on we talked back, Okay,
22:56
Speaker 1: but you got some crazy people be smart when okay,
23:03
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Soo, but how did you get into fashion? Okay?
23:09
Speaker 1: So when I was like probably eleven, I saw my
23:12
Speaker 1: aunt go rest her. So I saw her make her
23:15
Speaker 1: wedding dress. So she was in a living room. She
23:19
Speaker 1: bought white satin fabry and she designed a whole wedding dress.
23:22
Speaker 1: And then you know, you know how you have different
23:24
Speaker 1: antswers in the house, like they're like making fun of her,
23:26
Speaker 1: saying she's cheap. Lad, I'm like, no, she just made
23:29
Speaker 1: her wedding. I making my own wedding dress and yes, yeah,
23:38
Speaker 1: I'm like and then she's like I did all the
23:40
Speaker 1: bees and you know, bam she had a wedding dress.
23:42
Speaker 1: But I was like a while ago anyway, So when
23:45
Speaker 1: I was in Uni, I always knew like I didn't
23:47
Speaker 1: want to have a corporate job because like the idea
23:49
Speaker 1: of it kind of made me sad, like it just
23:51
Speaker 1: when the reason. So I'm like, okay, I wanted to
23:53
Speaker 1: be into fashion because I mean I just like being creating,
23:56
Speaker 1: like making things in my hand. So right after school,
23:58
Speaker 1: I went to University of Ottawa, Canada. But after school,
24:01
Speaker 1: I went to Fashion School and my dad and my
24:04
Speaker 1: mom we were very supportive, like normally with Nigerian parents
24:07
Speaker 1: and like don't do anything that My parents were not
24:10
Speaker 1: like that. I come from a bloodline of entrepreneurs, so like,
24:14
Speaker 1: if you want to be an entrepreneur, everyone has your back.
24:16
Speaker 1: So like they paid for any school that wanted to
24:18
Speaker 1: go to. So I went to Fashion School Toronto and
24:21
Speaker 1: you know, my final project was a twelve line collection
24:24
Speaker 1: and people love the time, Like okay, I actually love
24:27
Speaker 1: doing this as the crowd is receiving it. Well, so
24:29
Speaker 1: I just decided to you know, take the care of
24:31
Speaker 1: from there, and then I worked at klient Field. Went
24:35
Speaker 1: while I was in fashion school, which is like this,
24:37
Speaker 1: everybody say, yes, you address, everybody knows maybe you know
24:41
Speaker 1: okay yeaah so um yeah, and I was seeing people
24:45
Speaker 1: pay like almost hundred for alternations and went in dress
24:50
Speaker 1: not for the price of the weding dress because when
24:52
Speaker 1: there's probably like five key and then they pay extra
24:54
Speaker 1: for altuations. And I'm like, I'm gonna make this weding
24:56
Speaker 1: dresses for the price of the altuations and see what happens.
24:59
Speaker 1: And I said, I do, and I'm like, oh my god,
25:00
Speaker 1: I didn't love making what a dresses more So That's
25:03
Speaker 1: how I started my line and I've been doing it.
25:06
Speaker 1: I worked in insurance for three years and I remember
25:10
Speaker 1: I'll take like ten minutes break and I'm just staring
25:13
Speaker 1: into space because I'm so sad, just like being in
25:16
Speaker 1: the space I didn't want to be in. And then
25:17
Speaker 1: they like it's just like very pretendious, everyone trying to
25:20
Speaker 1: like make the manager happy, and it was just not
25:23
Speaker 1: my style. So I just, you know, go Turkey quicktures
25:27
Speaker 1: full time. And I've been doing that since today night.
25:30
Speaker 1: That's that's so how did you end up in a
25:37
Speaker 1: drunk video. It wasn't referral. Honestly, you're good because can
25:43
Speaker 1: you say I've worked on three drink music videos and
25:49
Speaker 1: it was just true. Like word of mount was like
25:51
Speaker 1: the statist was looking for someone it seems stressed on set.
25:55
Speaker 1: It was to Wait for You music video, and I'm
25:57
Speaker 1: like I called her back and she's like, yeah, we
25:59
Speaker 1: need used to come like two hours away from Toronto.
26:03
Speaker 1: We're going in the middle of nowhere to shoot and
26:05
Speaker 1: drink music video. I'm like, sure, I'll come, and then
26:08
Speaker 1: I have to beat my friend to contacting from me,
26:10
Speaker 1: like this is where I'm this first lesson just to
26:12
Speaker 1: get something. I don't know. It was legitima you just
26:16
Speaker 1: like sucking. I'm out. I'm like I'm there. You're like,
26:22
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay you some more for like three years.
26:23
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, yes, yes, sign me up. I'm like
26:25
Speaker 1: just for the just for the you know. And then
26:29
Speaker 1: I went there was my first time being on set
26:31
Speaker 1: and just speaking all this term like copy move like
26:33
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's happening, Okay. Then I had to create
26:36
Speaker 1: you know, the I don't know if you watched Wait
26:39
Speaker 1: for You music video like the girl like you know,
26:42
Speaker 1: he saves the damn soel and then she goes into
26:44
Speaker 1: the room. So the course that she was when I
26:46
Speaker 1: actually made that for like three hours, like so much pressure.
26:49
Speaker 1: I want to directors with X. It was such a
26:52
Speaker 1: fun for us. Yeah. He was there like, I'm like,
26:57
Speaker 1: what do you want me to do? He's like, just
27:00
Speaker 1: make something out of this. I'm like, all right, cool,
27:03
Speaker 1: I didn't know what something was. He likes what I
27:06
Speaker 1: mean too. Yeah, And then the one went we married
27:09
Speaker 1: like twenty something girls. Yeah, also, and that's said, yeah,
27:17
Speaker 1: I tell you all the wedding dresses, like girls came
27:19
Speaker 1: from all over the world just to be in a
27:21
Speaker 1: music video. And then there was a two rog Field Yeah.
27:26
Speaker 1: And then the one we did your key and baby,
27:31
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be excited, this is yeah excited. Yeah,
27:34
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be excited about it doesn't any bit.
27:37
Speaker 1: You can make a dress out of toilet tissue that
27:39
Speaker 1: looks good is a tanlent and need to be all
27:41
Speaker 1: everybody said period because all I can do with white
27:45
Speaker 1: my ass. That's it helps had to reach it out
27:50
Speaker 1: to me to come be her personal designer at all.
27:54
Speaker 1: I make all these people reach out to me. I'm here.
27:57
Speaker 1: You know, That's how I'm feeling sometimes. I mean, times
28:00
Speaker 1: is not on set for you know. Yeah, I just
28:03
Speaker 1: started and yeah, and when the shade re pusted the
28:07
Speaker 1: Battom video, I just made like a behind the scenes
28:11
Speaker 1: people were like, oh, we see where all these toilet
28:13
Speaker 1: people went to, you know you like, yeah, it's like
28:22
Speaker 1: it's a toilet paper short and it's a bitch making
28:25
Speaker 1: like boxing the company sending the boxes of toilet paper.
28:28
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need more and he's more just sending more,
28:30
Speaker 1: and I'm like making y'all gotta save that. The drags,
28:36
Speaker 1: yeah you know that time. I've also makes hair, so
28:38
Speaker 1: I bread it as well. That's why incorporated it into
28:41
Speaker 1: the saw Giant. I saw it was like braided down
28:46
Speaker 1: the back and like, yeah it was nice. That's amazing man.
28:50
Speaker 1: So what was the process for dragging? Because I always
28:52
Speaker 1: wanted to go on Shark thank I got this idea
28:55
Speaker 1: about like it's Christmas time, right, you said, access will
28:59
Speaker 1: be put up a Christmas tree. So what if you
29:02
Speaker 1: had a Christmas tree you can open up like an
29:04
Speaker 1: umbrella and it's already like fluffed out. I mean, you
29:09
Speaker 1: don't have to put those things on. You have to
29:12
Speaker 1: put each branch on and fluff it. I think I
29:19
Speaker 1: bought a tree where it was it was three sections
29:22
Speaker 1: that you just open up and then you put one
29:25
Speaker 1: on the top and the third one on it and
29:26
Speaker 1: it just it's already put together. Look, I guess I'm
29:31
Speaker 1: a narcissist. I think I'm the first to do everything.
29:35
Speaker 1: I mean, like all these ideas you're giving out, you
29:38
Speaker 1: can't still do it. You can't still have made some o.
29:41
Speaker 1: You just make it better than that. So the one
29:43
Speaker 1: I had was three pieces. Maybe you can make it
29:45
Speaker 1: where it's no pieces and you fluff out your leaves
29:51
Speaker 1: and you put your decorations on five minute Christmas tree.
29:55
Speaker 1: You ain't buy that, going sure, yeah, I'm not out.
30:02
Speaker 1: So what was your experience on the dragons then? How
30:05
Speaker 1: do you end up there? Yeah? So um Dragons then
30:08
Speaker 1: reached out to me and said, like, we want your
30:11
Speaker 1: dragons then, because like the magazine, it's called blog t oh,
30:15
Speaker 1: it's like a big blog in Toronto. So they shared
30:17
Speaker 1: my work, talked about sustainable design and all that. So
30:20
Speaker 1: they reached out and the casting director returned to me
30:22
Speaker 1: like we want your dragons then, I'm like, yeah, when
30:24
Speaker 1: is it for three? Like no, in ten days? And
30:27
Speaker 1: like what yeah, You're like you either want it or
30:30
Speaker 1: you don't want it, like you know out, I mean,
30:32
Speaker 1: you can't do it next year, but we don't really
30:34
Speaker 1: we're going to renew. But I said, yes, I took
30:36
Speaker 1: the one I had in the moment, and I just
30:39
Speaker 1: never written a page. My numbers are there, but like
30:42
Speaker 1: I had to like polish you with my accountant, and yeah,
30:44
Speaker 1: I went into the dance scared, scared as fun. It
30:47
Speaker 1: was very scary, but I did it. I went there
30:52
Speaker 1: and then I had my friend come over. I made
30:54
Speaker 1: her wedding dress. Actually, I made her wedding dress in
30:56
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Her winding got cantled three weeks before the pandemic.
31:01
Speaker 1: So you know, imagine paying all all that money and
31:03
Speaker 1: having all this right out party and then like your
31:06
Speaker 1: wedding doesn't happen. Because so yeah, I'm like, hey, do
31:09
Speaker 1: you want to come wear your dress on dragons there?
31:11
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, sure, I'm coming. And she could still
31:13
Speaker 1: fit the dress how the whole baby and she could
31:15
Speaker 1: still fit the dress after her wedding, so after nineteen,
31:19
Speaker 1: so she came with me on the show practice my
31:21
Speaker 1: picture for me, and yeah, I spoke to the dragons
31:25
Speaker 1: or six of them scared. Let's talk about this right, Okay,
31:31
Speaker 1: let out listeners know what you went on the dragons
31:34
Speaker 1: And just in case you don't watch the clip, what
31:36
Speaker 1: was your ask from the from the dragon? Okay, So
31:42
Speaker 1: if you didn't watch the clip, you can go on
31:44
Speaker 1: CBC CBC dot com and then watch season seventh seen
31:48
Speaker 1: episode ten. That's what I pitched on. So I went
31:52
Speaker 1: and asking for a fourth forty thou dollars for twelve
31:55
Speaker 1: point five percent of my company. But I know that's
32:06
Speaker 1: exactly why I said it, because I'm like roast me
32:09
Speaker 1: because I know I have to rost from that. But
32:14
Speaker 1: but the thing is that you have to determine the
32:16
Speaker 1: value you're asking for more. Yeah, like if you're asking
32:21
Speaker 1: for more than to like me, asking for a twelve
32:23
Speaker 1: point five meant I valued my company at three hundred
32:27
Speaker 1: or something. That wasn't if anything Dragons then taught me
32:30
Speaker 1: is I'm on to value myself a lot. You know.
32:33
Speaker 1: After pitching, I pitched all the way with me. I
32:35
Speaker 1: was depressed for like three days. I was on my floor.
32:37
Speaker 1: I was crying because I'm like why did I do that?
32:39
Speaker 1: Like I was just like all the things they told
32:41
Speaker 1: me was just like ringing in my head. I remember
32:43
Speaker 1: I got my period the next day I couldn't work.
32:45
Speaker 1: So I'm just like thinking, if something I haven't seeing
32:47
Speaker 1: what happens to come because that was what they kept
32:49
Speaker 1: on telling me. Then and my friends who came home.
32:52
Speaker 1: She came to my house. I wasn't asking her question
32:54
Speaker 1: to my house, took me to different bride out stories,
32:56
Speaker 1: into rount and she's like, this is your competition. So
32:58
Speaker 1: like if you don't read someone, that person would do
33:01
Speaker 1: it too, like you know, get yourself. Remember. So I
33:05
Speaker 1: just snapped off of that, but yeah, I know. And
33:08
Speaker 1: then I walked out with five sorry forty Okay, y'all
33:13
Speaker 1: let me break this down right quickly. Okay, So Sooba
33:16
Speaker 1: went on Dragon's Dead. Her ask was forty dollars for
33:22
Speaker 1: twelve point five percent of a company that she is
33:26
Speaker 1: the number one laborer at. Okay, and so what was
33:32
Speaker 1: the guy who actually accepted? But he wanted forty thousand
33:37
Speaker 1: of your company? This is essentially it's a small business, right,
33:43
Speaker 1: you're big, but it's a small business. One person. How
33:46
Speaker 1: many employees do you have time. So like the main
33:53
Speaker 1: thing I asked was what did you ever have your
33:55
Speaker 1: business evaluated? What your what was your business evaluated at?
33:58
Speaker 1: Because that that would be the first thing you want
34:00
Speaker 1: to do before asking somebody for money. And really what
34:03
Speaker 1: you needed was a businessman not said that. So the
34:10
Speaker 1: reason why I wanted an investor was not necessarily for
34:14
Speaker 1: the money. I think I needed more mentorship, like just
34:18
Speaker 1: someone to like helping with the business side, because the
34:20
Speaker 1: critic side is fine, but like because I'm obviously I'm
34:22
Speaker 1: always improving on my critivity and like learning, but the
34:25
Speaker 1: business side is like something that I wasn't really paying
34:27
Speaker 1: attention to as much as I should have. So I
34:30
Speaker 1: needed a mentor. But after the then I realized that
34:34
Speaker 1: although we can find out, but yeah, did you accept
34:36
Speaker 1: the deal? Like did it go through like that somebody
34:38
Speaker 1: owns twenty in your company? No, nothing is finalized, as
34:43
Speaker 1: we're still in the process like due diligence, like we're
34:45
Speaker 1: checking numbers, like this was all the way at me
34:47
Speaker 1: and you know since from dancing now nothing has been finalized.
34:52
Speaker 1: Don't do it, said, tell me why I was listening
34:59
Speaker 1: to you. I just told you and I told you
35:02
Speaker 1: when you message me, you are worth way than forty dollars.
35:07
Speaker 1: And then for somebody you have of a company where
35:10
Speaker 1: they may not be doing much, what you need is
35:13
Speaker 1: you need a mentor. Like you said, there's funny people
35:15
Speaker 1: out here that actually mentor you for free, you know,
35:20
Speaker 1: as opposed to I did you know going on one
35:23
Speaker 1: of these names. So you're only gonna get forty dollars
35:27
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have company, but the life of your
35:30
Speaker 1: company for how long? Like I said, nothing has been finalized,
35:35
Speaker 1: Like we haven't even got into that part yet. They're
35:37
Speaker 1: still in like you in the number of stage. So
35:41
Speaker 1: dragons don't will tell you, like they're not responsible for
35:43
Speaker 1: what you do after the after the you don't care
35:47
Speaker 1: what you do after Like that's on you. Right, So
35:49
Speaker 1: anything I said, like whatever was I agree on it's
35:52
Speaker 1: not necessary. Okay, So you can renegotiated, So you can
35:57
Speaker 1: also pull out and want you like you can just
35:59
Speaker 1: not with anything, right yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, right now
36:03
Speaker 1: I still owned my company in a real way. I
36:12
Speaker 1: have already spoken to some people I know, like that
36:15
Speaker 1: I that I know have business relationships at banks. I
36:18
Speaker 1: told him about you, like I know one of my
36:20
Speaker 1: one of my good friends. Yeah, like what you need
36:23
Speaker 1: is a business plan. You got. I'm pretty sure you
36:25
Speaker 1: have the company incorporated and all that good stuff. I
36:28
Speaker 1: don't know like the process in Canada for like business
36:31
Speaker 1: credit and stuff like that. But you definitely don't need
36:34
Speaker 1: to go to like this one individual for for that
36:37
Speaker 1: you can get you just leave alone. You just need
36:39
Speaker 1: it alone. So has has your business grown since you
36:43
Speaker 1: know you've been on the show? Yeah, but before it
36:46
Speaker 1: aired from me too, So now it definitely has, Like
36:50
Speaker 1: because I worked on I think it was after it aired.
36:54
Speaker 1: Then I worked on a few of them music videos
36:56
Speaker 1: and got more clients, like I just um on my
37:02
Speaker 1: trying to see it definitely has grown since then. I
37:06
Speaker 1: don't really have the specifics and the numbers right now
37:08
Speaker 1: because you know, well yeah it high school. I've seen
37:10
Speaker 1: a difference and then and even meets are the person
37:13
Speaker 1: I've grown as well, like I took. I learned so
37:15
Speaker 1: much from them, like skilling in business. I have invested
37:18
Speaker 1: in mentorship because you know that's might need like not
37:21
Speaker 1: just like and it's important to hire someone because anybody
37:25
Speaker 1: can't do anybody can learn how to do. And then
37:28
Speaker 1: with designing aspect of them like other parts of the business.
37:32
Speaker 1: I can publish myself in those ways, you know, while
37:34
Speaker 1: someone is sewing and I'm learning. Yeah, right, oh girl,
37:39
Speaker 1: I would ask you asked about two d dollars okay,
37:42
Speaker 1: half a million, it was like two yeah, because this
37:46
Speaker 1: kind of like because from then to now, like I've
37:49
Speaker 1: made forty like from exactly because it's like, right, yeah,
37:57
Speaker 1: and I made that in the last couple of months.
37:59
Speaker 1: What you're gonna get me? Maybe because they talked about
38:03
Speaker 1: my price has been too and they talked to the
38:07
Speaker 1: price that right, yesterday's pricing, today's price, right, the prices yeah, yeah, yeah,
38:13
Speaker 1: it's gone up for sure. The price has gone up.
38:17
Speaker 1: And you know, uh, even when the pricing is so
38:22
Speaker 1: tricky too, because it's like I don't know where this
38:25
Speaker 1: is coming from. Maybe it's like racism and like coming
38:29
Speaker 1: from nature and like seeing how much people pay for it.
38:31
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Like, I honestly don't
38:33
Speaker 1: know why I'm so afraid to increase my price and
38:36
Speaker 1: I charge my worst right, It's like, I don't know
38:38
Speaker 1: what that is. Don't be scared raise the price, because
38:42
Speaker 1: then you're just gonna have people with mind. I think
38:44
Speaker 1: it's a black people, I think we are afraid of
38:47
Speaker 1: asking for what we know we deserve, even when people
38:50
Speaker 1: are working in corporate settings, like black people sit there
38:53
Speaker 1: and make the same money for five years. You know
38:56
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Even if you do a lateral move,
38:58
Speaker 1: you could don't ask for more money. Do you think
39:02
Speaker 1: that's a black thing or a female thing? Um, I
39:06
Speaker 1: just think it might be a black it's a female
39:09
Speaker 1: thing when it comes to asking for money, Like, I
39:13
Speaker 1: don't even know how I'm the only I'm the only dad. Like,
39:20
Speaker 1: I can't ask my dad. I want me to get
39:22
Speaker 1: to annoying. She's like, you want the money, go ask him,
39:25
Speaker 1: and I know you go ask him. She's like, I'm
39:26
Speaker 1: gonna ask this one more time. Next time you have
39:29
Speaker 1: to ask him. Like I guess I have to do
39:31
Speaker 1: your daddy. I don't ask my dad for money, No,
39:34
Speaker 1: because I cannot open my mouth for children. I'm the
39:38
Speaker 1: only girl. I don't. So here's them. That's more reason
39:43
Speaker 1: for you to be able to ask your dad daddy
39:47
Speaker 1: some money to all these people. And I'm just there
39:49
Speaker 1: like money, So imagine how that translates into business and relationships.
39:58
Speaker 1: If you can't even ask the person closest to you,
40:00
Speaker 1: but what you need? So how are you going to
40:04
Speaker 1: get around this? Okay? Because you could have got that
40:08
Speaker 1: problems Canadian boy. Yeah, what the Canadian nigga is hitting forward?
40:14
Speaker 1: You Canadian guys like let me bost who like, I'm
40:18
Speaker 1: just annoyed. It's like Canadian, I'm okay, I'm going to
40:26
Speaker 1: sleep from my experience like most people. Most guys in Canada,
40:31
Speaker 1: like they're not on the oh, I'll give you this,
40:34
Speaker 1: do it like they're always like America. Yeah when let
40:39
Speaker 1: it down a minut American tarnished everybody. No obio fest
40:45
Speaker 1: for me baby, like that why your men will take
40:51
Speaker 1: you on your friends? They don't. I was about to say,
40:55
Speaker 1: wait what no, no, no, Like even Durant guys they
40:58
Speaker 1: see you like bring your friend is his normal and
41:01
Speaker 1: he's paying for everybody, Like that's normal that you you're
41:06
Speaker 1: You're everything is swirt. Yeah that's so they don't have
41:12
Speaker 1: any Nigerians. Is that what we're saying, ain't on Nigerians
41:16
Speaker 1: a Canada. I don't know where they. Yeah, my friend
41:22
Speaker 1: right now, she's like she left Kinada, she's in she's
41:25
Speaker 1: in South Africa because she's like the guy she wanted
41:27
Speaker 1: to marry is in South because he doesn't mind like
41:30
Speaker 1: paying for her stuff, right, and she found like canydian
41:33
Speaker 1: guys who wants to fifty everything. She didn't come from
41:36
Speaker 1: me for coming for them. But you know I had
41:38
Speaker 1: to be even dates I've I've been on dates where
41:44
Speaker 1: you know you went, yeah, well I will just not
41:49
Speaker 1: city person again, like I don't mind paying, but like
41:51
Speaker 1: that's the last thing, right, So how did that go?
41:55
Speaker 1: At the end of the night, Nika was just looking
41:56
Speaker 1: in the sky when the checken's weird, like like I
42:00
Speaker 1: had the chicken for anything. Oh no, I act like
42:05
Speaker 1: I and leave someone I didn't have to go pee
42:10
Speaker 1: and then they covered like since then I mean to
42:16
Speaker 1: on you like I'm like in this moment, that's when
42:23
Speaker 1: he wants to pee. Okay, yeah, he wanted to see
42:26
Speaker 1: I I haven't seen to thing cause I'm like and
42:29
Speaker 1: he's like, oh you can nah. If he came back
42:37
Speaker 1: to keep your curse on your lap under the table,
42:40
Speaker 1: like don't reaching your ships, see what they're gonna do.
42:42
Speaker 1: And then if he really liked on that type of time,
42:45
Speaker 1: then you split and not talked to this as someone.
42:46
Speaker 1: But I'll be damn like coup of the whole bill
42:50
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom, especially if you're just like if
42:53
Speaker 1: if it's someone I'm dating already, I don't mind paying
42:56
Speaker 1: every now and then, But if we're just going on
42:59
Speaker 1: our first couple day first, you need to be courting me, sir,
43:02
Speaker 1: or you should be dating, okay, right, you shouldn't be
43:06
Speaker 1: dating like men be complaining about how much money they
43:10
Speaker 1: spend on dates, like they dating budget. But why don't
43:12
Speaker 1: you just find like somebody you're interested in and that
43:15
Speaker 1: they're interested in you, and you know, because they want
43:18
Speaker 1: to pay for the date to get pussy at the
43:19
Speaker 1: end of the night, So we gotta pay for the
43:21
Speaker 1: date and pussy a lot of times we don't have to,
43:23
Speaker 1: but that's what they expect, right, But why not just
43:27
Speaker 1: date with purpose? And you went mind spending money on
43:31
Speaker 1: the person? Like what the fuck? Let's terry you? So
43:39
Speaker 1: so we're not taking the deal? Right? Let her negotia.
43:48
Speaker 1: Do you have an attorney? I have an attorney that
43:51
Speaker 1: is ready to step in when it's time for her
43:52
Speaker 1: to step in, but like right now, I don't need
43:55
Speaker 1: her yet. But I did mention that I do want
43:58
Speaker 1: to renegot ship because like Yeah, like I said, I
44:02
Speaker 1: just invested in like mentorship on coaching, and it was
44:05
Speaker 1: a lot of money for I needed It's worth it
44:08
Speaker 1: because I talked to value myself on price mife. So
44:11
Speaker 1: on top of being like a business professional, I also
44:14
Speaker 1: like to think I'm on an emma an attorney as well.
44:23
Speaker 1: Documents over and I reviewing for you. Okay, I feel
44:27
Speaker 1: like everything in life is negotiable. And those people know
44:31
Speaker 1: your work. They were just testing to see if you did.
44:35
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you know, damn well,
44:38
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get of your company that you are, Like,
44:42
Speaker 1: this is your ship. This is not like a I
44:45
Speaker 1: don't know, like a factory job or something like. I
44:48
Speaker 1: don't like. This is not like a what are the
44:52
Speaker 1: companies that what would need somebody? You would need someone
44:55
Speaker 1: to invest in, not something like this, I don't think,
44:58
Speaker 1: not at this stage of your business where you are
45:02
Speaker 1: bringing old investors. It's not big enough. Yeah, you know
45:06
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I feel like even though it's
45:08
Speaker 1: not that big, you can still ask for at least
45:10
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty thousand dollars and like, how long
45:13
Speaker 1: am I supposed to give you twenty five of my
45:16
Speaker 1: business that you're asking doing nothing but talking to me
45:21
Speaker 1: and like I don't know, giving business advice a lot
45:26
Speaker 1: of money. And then dandell Um he was the only
45:32
Speaker 1: one that I really understood the business model because like
45:36
Speaker 1: in Nigeria, it's normal that people have things cost on
45:40
Speaker 1: me for them for event. Look at Porschres wedding. How
45:43
Speaker 1: many dresses she really like? So many? Like that's how
45:46
Speaker 1: it is, like every Saturday that's a wedding and you're
45:49
Speaker 1: going to your designer to make something new for you,
45:52
Speaker 1: like and I'm just saying, how come can you how
45:54
Speaker 1: come it's not a thing here? Like it should be
45:56
Speaker 1: a thing people think like um fast flash and first
46:00
Speaker 1: before thinking of having something custom made, like it's the
46:02
Speaker 1: opposite world from like it's like and then I'm trying
46:05
Speaker 1: to import that to this part of the world. But
46:08
Speaker 1: most of the people in the room did not see.
46:10
Speaker 1: But I see it, and I know that people like
46:12
Speaker 1: my clients I dress worked with, she's like, she has
46:15
Speaker 1: a very tiny waist and she's very curvy, so she
46:18
Speaker 1: went to stores and wasn't finding things that feed her perfectly.
46:21
Speaker 1: And like the way I courstted and snatched her dress.
46:24
Speaker 1: She was so happy and she's like, yeah, she's going
46:26
Speaker 1: to come to me for future dresses to feed her body.
46:30
Speaker 1: Because like even when I went to fashion school, I
46:32
Speaker 1: wasn't thought how to make designs for plus sides, not
46:36
Speaker 1: even plus size. But like black men, we have more current, right,
46:40
Speaker 1: it's just like European like side six sides to That's
46:43
Speaker 1: why I was still had to like go outside school
46:45
Speaker 1: to learn how to make for women. After my clients,
46:49
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, like take all of that in like snatch
46:53
Speaker 1: everything and walk down the arm Marrio King the nice dress.
46:58
Speaker 1: You know. I was saying, um, there's a wedding every Saturday.
47:03
Speaker 1: And when she said that, I was like, Lord, what
47:05
Speaker 1: you have done for hey? Maybe right now? Every every
47:15
Speaker 1: right now right now? Yeah? You know married. I was
47:21
Speaker 1: talking to one of my friends yesterday. He is from
47:25
Speaker 1: uh the Congo, but he wants to buy a new car.
47:29
Speaker 1: You know that, this Chris calvs Tam who was on
47:31
Speaker 1: the show. He wants to buy a new car, right,
47:33
Speaker 1: so he said, him and his dad got into argument
47:35
Speaker 1: because his dad is like a traditional African dad, right,
47:40
Speaker 1: why are you buying new ship when you don't have
47:42
Speaker 1: a wife yet? Is his dad's argument like why are
47:45
Speaker 1: you not planning, like doing that type of life planning,
47:47
Speaker 1: You're just buying more liabilities. Essentially, It's just true. That's
47:53
Speaker 1: a good man, that's a good dad. You know what
47:56
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like these guys, like in Canada and America,
47:59
Speaker 1: they need more men to push them and you know,
48:01
Speaker 1: to show them the benefits of having a wife. Because
48:05
Speaker 1: you get a wife, you sing around and get ten cars,
48:08
Speaker 1: whatever cars you want. Women multiply ship the right woman,
48:13
Speaker 1: and you also live longer. Men who have women in
48:16
Speaker 1: their lives live longer now. Women who have met done
48:20
Speaker 1: their lives actually die earlier. Yeah, why are you asking,
48:25
Speaker 1: like what's the benefits? Nigga? I'm gonna make sure you
48:28
Speaker 1: get the health care you need. How about that? That's
48:30
Speaker 1: a big benefit. Right, you're gonna tax You're gonna take
48:33
Speaker 1: some of my lifeline. Kind of like they don't like
48:40
Speaker 1: being to it what to do? That's why I like
48:42
Speaker 1: to just you know, they feel like women are heads.
48:44
Speaker 1: Like fully stand and tell them what if you actually listen.
48:46
Speaker 1: There's some germs in the message. Always eat the meat,
48:51
Speaker 1: spit out the bones. Yeah, they've been worrying about the
48:53
Speaker 1: wrong ship. Get you a goddamn white and get your
48:56
Speaker 1: life together? So what no, go ahead? What did tell you?
49:02
Speaker 1: Oh no? She was like, oh my god, yeah, I'll
49:04
Speaker 1: here making all these wedding dresses that your single. How
49:07
Speaker 1: does that feel? I'm like, I would have accidentally stamped
49:12
Speaker 1: over the stitch. I'm sorry. Still, I know. It's just
49:16
Speaker 1: like I actually like making your dress, Like I'm even
49:20
Speaker 1: thinking about that, right, Like, yeah, bitch, why are you
49:23
Speaker 1: thinking about that? Right? When do you want me to
49:26
Speaker 1: make for your divorce dress? Right? I mean you should
49:32
Speaker 1: start that. You should start a line of divorce dresses
49:36
Speaker 1: doing as women getting divorced just as much as they
49:42
Speaker 1: are getting married. Yea black, yellow, should like yeah, I
49:52
Speaker 1: think like you should yellow, bright, nice, happy like like
49:56
Speaker 1: me sad. It's the end. It's the end of something.
50:02
Speaker 1: It's the death the beginning, let's be clear. So I
50:07
Speaker 1: want to you can do you can make it like
50:09
Speaker 1: the motherfucking dresses off of what's that movie where the
50:12
Speaker 1: girl was on fire? You know what I'm talking about?
50:16
Speaker 1: What's the white girl? And they was like zone four,
50:20
Speaker 1: zone three, zone four? What was that movie? Hunger Games?
50:24
Speaker 1: Her dress, her dress was black and then it turned red. Baby,
50:29
Speaker 1: I won't one of them and I ain't never been
50:31
Speaker 1: married or divorce. Oh bitch, I was about to go
50:34
Speaker 1: back to Drake. Let's go to drink. So what was what?
50:38
Speaker 1: What was he like? Um, honestly on set, like Drake
50:45
Speaker 1: will just calm and then admired to work and I'm
50:48
Speaker 1: just working, busy and we don't already see anything. No,
50:52
Speaker 1: he's just doing his thing, like because everybody did is
50:54
Speaker 1: like we've worked on well maybe they've worked on multiple
50:58
Speaker 1: dricks where like that was like my second one the point,
51:00
Speaker 1: but like you're just working and you're not gonna paying
51:02
Speaker 1: attention to the like you're not paying attention to him.
51:05
Speaker 1: But like you're expected to be professional in those settings,
51:08
Speaker 1: right you like finding out right there exactly? I just
51:12
Speaker 1: could not because I had something to do and there
51:14
Speaker 1: was a deadline. So the person that got me stop
51:18
Speaker 1: was working with Kendrick with mar Like being in the
51:21
Speaker 1: room with Kendrick, like his presence was so calming, like
51:24
Speaker 1: it was so beautiful. Just to be the same I
51:27
Speaker 1: would have been in there Like that is so unprofessional.
51:29
Speaker 1: Why it's tam bam sucking Drakes dick over there? Stupid stupid,
51:35
Speaker 1: you know the bodies that the bodies that were in
51:37
Speaker 1: that music video. I'm just saying, where did you guys
51:41
Speaker 1: come from? This? Beautiful girls everywhere? I a should have
51:45
Speaker 1: been in that marriage video. Yeah, man, let's actually go
51:51
Speaker 1: to commercial and then when we come back, we're gonna
51:53
Speaker 1: get into Zoba's dumb bitch story. We'll be right back
51:59
Speaker 1: stumbish story because we've all been a dumb bit. At
52:03
Speaker 1: least it was twice my dumb story. It was when
52:10
Speaker 1: I was in university and my I think my fourth yeaters.
52:14
Speaker 1: This guy was talking to and I really liked him
52:16
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, and yeah, like I was like, oh,
52:19
Speaker 1: do you want to go out sometime? And he said yes,
52:22
Speaker 1: he said yes, that's like I asked. Anyways, So we
52:25
Speaker 1: went to this restaurant we ate. This was I was
52:28
Speaker 1: like eight seen and the bill came and the bill
52:32
Speaker 1: was I think it was like a hundred and almost
52:35
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars and I had seven hundred and fifty
52:37
Speaker 1: dollars and my savings accounts. And then I paid the
52:41
Speaker 1: bill because he was like, you invited me out, so
52:44
Speaker 1: you should pay for you. And this guy was like
52:46
Speaker 1: at least seven years older than me, and I was confused.
52:49
Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I paying taking care of you?
52:52
Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, you invited me. That's how
52:54
Speaker 1: it worked. Me invite someone out one date, then you
52:56
Speaker 1: paid the bill and I'm like, yeah, my clown makeup
52:59
Speaker 1: and myself and my service account. I transferred the money.
53:02
Speaker 1: I paid for the things, and I'm like I went home. Yeah,
53:05
Speaker 1: that's my domber story. Yeah, that's when I would be like, okay,
53:12
Speaker 1: I paid for a home. Let me go use the bathroom,
53:13
Speaker 1: real quick about it. I saw him aga after that.
53:19
Speaker 1: I saw him aging after that. I mean, he is right,
53:22
Speaker 1: if you invite somebody on a date, you are entitled
53:25
Speaker 1: to pay. But when I asked go ahead, I mean
53:30
Speaker 1: you are technically when you ask somebody. But I when
53:33
Speaker 1: I I say would you like to take me to
53:35
Speaker 1: this place? I don't ask them do you want to?
53:37
Speaker 1: Do you want to go to the movies? I'd be like,
53:39
Speaker 1: do you want to take me to the movies on Thursday? Yeah?
53:43
Speaker 1: So you know who's paying words back? Do you want
53:47
Speaker 1: to take me? Right? That's almost this is just stressed.
53:55
Speaker 1: That's why I just focused on my work because it's
53:57
Speaker 1: like I'm seeing results, like no result, it ain't no result. Yeah.
54:05
Speaker 1: So listen. We do have a simple story from one
54:08
Speaker 1: of our listeners, Slash. I guess I don't know. He
54:11
Speaker 1: calls herself a dumb bitch too, so let's see. Um
54:14
Speaker 1: he says, hey, Tam, bam and a j help. I
54:17
Speaker 1: need some simple dumb nig advice. My girl is pregnant,
54:23
Speaker 1: and it would be all good except for the fact
54:25
Speaker 1: that I haven't told my actual girlfriend my girl is pregnant.
54:30
Speaker 1: But I have not told my actual girlfriend. Um, I
54:34
Speaker 1: already I already know y'all are gonna say, a ship
54:37
Speaker 1: is this Diddy? It might be like it's anonymous, it
54:43
Speaker 1: might be Diddy? Ya know. Um, I already know y'all
54:46
Speaker 1: are gonna say. I ain't shit. Already know that. But
54:49
Speaker 1: I love them. Shorty, Shorty, that's pregnant. I met her
54:52
Speaker 1: on I G earlier this year, and I took her
54:54
Speaker 1: on vacation on my guy's trip. And he puts that
54:57
Speaker 1: in quotes, Oh my guys trip to Mexico back in August,
55:02
Speaker 1: and now she's pregnant. Um. I've been with my girlfriend
55:06
Speaker 1: for about three years, we actually lived together, and she's
55:09
Speaker 1: never gotten pregnant. I want my child, so abortion was
55:12
Speaker 1: never an option. My other girl always knew about my
55:16
Speaker 1: existing relationship, and of course it was all cool until
55:19
Speaker 1: she got pregnant. Now she's pressuring me to move to
55:22
Speaker 1: d C with her or she's moving to North Carolina.
55:26
Speaker 1: I want them boats, I get money and can slash.
55:30
Speaker 1: Have been taking care of everyone, But I know my
55:32
Speaker 1: girl isn't having that ship when she finds out. How
55:36
Speaker 1: the hell am I supposed to tell her all of
55:38
Speaker 1: this and have her state is what he needs? Not helpful, nigga,
55:45
Speaker 1: she's not gonna stay. You got a baby on the way,
55:47
Speaker 1: you might as well take that and either let that
55:50
Speaker 1: girl move to d C and stay with your girlfriend.
55:52
Speaker 1: But I mean, once you find out you got a baby,
55:54
Speaker 1: she's probably gonna leave you alone. And she don't have
55:56
Speaker 1: a kid. That's hurtful unless you how much money do
56:00
Speaker 1: you have, sir, because that that really is gonna make
56:02
Speaker 1: the difference. If you can buy her a really big
56:08
Speaker 1: house in a new car, maybe she'll stay. But what
56:13
Speaker 1: are you gonna do with the girl that's pregnant. I mean,
56:18
Speaker 1: she's oh, she wants him to come be with him,
56:20
Speaker 1: she wants what are you saying is she wants him
56:23
Speaker 1: to move to where she is to DC. She's gonna
56:27
Speaker 1: be moving to where he's at. So it's like, oh,
56:31
Speaker 1: he lives he's in North Carolina, she lives in DC. Boy,
56:36
Speaker 1: you're about to be funked up by here. Please tell
56:43
Speaker 1: us what because you're about to have a whole ship
56:45
Speaker 1: storm in is. Men don't realize they can have everything
56:49
Speaker 1: they wanted to. Just be honest, Why don't even tell you?
56:51
Speaker 1: Like you should have just maybe told your girlfriend before
56:55
Speaker 1: you got a whole another girl friend, like this is
56:58
Speaker 1: some ship you had going on, so she could leave beforehand.
57:02
Speaker 1: Now now you gotta add some extra shift onto this
57:05
Speaker 1: and you expect her to stay. Would you stay if
57:07
Speaker 1: she had a baby for somebody else and she was
57:10
Speaker 1: right in your house right now, I'm pregnant for another nigga,
57:13
Speaker 1: imagine that. Why are we as women expected to give
57:18
Speaker 1: way more grace than these niggas will ever allow for
57:22
Speaker 1: I'm confused, So I don't know my my advice to
57:26
Speaker 1: him and just count on me a bit leaving. I
57:27
Speaker 1: don't think she's staying, but tell her, tell her like soon,
57:32
Speaker 1: So August to December, this person gotta be like four
57:35
Speaker 1: months pregnant. Sod, you lie about your trip, You didn't
57:40
Speaker 1: go with no guys. You went with whoever you went
57:42
Speaker 1: with her ain't got her pregnant? A random bit you
57:47
Speaker 1: off the internet. M did he it's gold Tell Kaisha,
57:56
Speaker 1: Kaisha no. Now at this point, by the time we
57:58
Speaker 1: recorded this, Karesha knows, So just tell us what happened
58:01
Speaker 1: this place for the pictures, like you always been doing it?
58:03
Speaker 1: He so, But you'll have no advice car for a listener.
58:09
Speaker 1: I just kind of guess it was the fact that
58:11
Speaker 1: there's a whole girlfriend and you're having raw sex and
58:14
Speaker 1: then you come back and have sex and your girlfriend
58:16
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I don't have any advice for him.
58:21
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to my two wives. I don't think
58:22
Speaker 1: the other girl is gonna stay unless she is into
58:26
Speaker 1: like polygamy. I don't have any advice for him. He
58:30
Speaker 1: knows what he wants to do. He knows if he
58:32
Speaker 1: wants her to be with him, the pregnant girl. He
58:35
Speaker 1: knows if he wants her to come stay with him.
58:36
Speaker 1: He knows that. So is he willing to lose the
58:38
Speaker 1: other girl? Because why did he have the other girl?
58:42
Speaker 1: He said he wants them both. He can't have them boted,
58:45
Speaker 1: where are you like? Can you have them both have
58:47
Speaker 1: a conversation. I mean he's rich enough, he might be
58:50
Speaker 1: able to she might consider if he got enough money.
58:53
Speaker 1: So like that's the main question for real, right, how rich?
58:57
Speaker 1: He said, he can take care of both of him,
58:59
Speaker 1: But how well can you take care of Yeah, maybe
59:02
Speaker 1: maybe his main girlfriend is fine actually with him having
59:06
Speaker 1: another print now. I think if she was fine with it,
59:08
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't have to hight that r he said.
59:11
Speaker 1: He said she ain't going for it. He said he
59:13
Speaker 1: already knew she ain't going for it, right, and he
59:16
Speaker 1: won our advice. Nigga, we're just gonna dog, I don't know,
59:23
Speaker 1: and if we fired up all were gonna try to
59:25
Speaker 1: get you a bit your hair. Both both of them
59:31
Speaker 1: you know that, you know, the pregnant one on the side,
59:34
Speaker 1: like she probably the down as did she ain't coming,
59:37
Speaker 1: She's gonna try to as good as possible. Should just
59:40
Speaker 1: be with her then he can be with her then.
59:43
Speaker 1: But he wants the same thing exactly, do the same
59:47
Speaker 1: thing to her child. Yeah, this future, This is why
59:53
Speaker 1: I promote condoms. Like just think you use condoms, guys
1:00:00
Speaker 1: age everything, call them sex your mind, Like wants you
1:00:04
Speaker 1: just use condoms like you don't have to worry about
1:00:06
Speaker 1: all of this, Like you're like, yeah, by next that's true,
1:00:12
Speaker 1: But it feels the same to me, I mean not
1:00:18
Speaker 1: exactly the same, but good enough, you know. I feel
1:00:21
Speaker 1: like call them add like an extra sensation to like
1:00:23
Speaker 1: the extra like rubber like robes and it feels nice. No,
1:00:26
Speaker 1: what ain are you using what they got in Canada?
1:00:28
Speaker 1: Mail us time of them because they like you're talking
1:00:35
Speaker 1: like this kid wants like it feels nice when that's
1:00:39
Speaker 1: the ones I used it. Yeah, it would be pretty good.
1:00:45
Speaker 1: I don't even best is peace of mind, Like I
1:00:48
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about right, I mean you still
1:00:52
Speaker 1: gotta worry, but not as much as you would wrong, Yeah,
1:00:58
Speaker 1: I mean ship you can still get with a right.
1:01:01
Speaker 1: You can't condom right? And yeah, her pose would like
1:01:06
Speaker 1: kissing people from I think, yeah, and then there's another
1:01:10
Speaker 1: disease to like, what's that thing? My story lies? Oh crap,
1:01:23
Speaker 1: c yeah, I can't remember the name like things, but
1:01:29
Speaker 1: and then I wants the other std feelings period you
1:01:34
Speaker 1: transmitted transmitted demons? Yes, like we condoms, you don't have
1:01:39
Speaker 1: to worry about it. I mean you can't do feelings
1:01:42
Speaker 1: with condoms. I don't when I tell you feel no
1:01:46
Speaker 1: condom dick I needed, but like if you have like
1:01:50
Speaker 1: no condom sex, like I just feel Sometimes I find
1:01:53
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