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Manhattan Alien Abduction: Kidnapped · Journey to the Fringe

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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
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us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome
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to Journey to the Fringe, where it's, in theory,
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when you're listening to this, a Friday. So now,
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we're all good, old words are loose, we can do
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what we want with our... I don't know, esophagus,
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I guess. I don't know. We're your podcast hosts,
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Taylor and Chelsea, here with better words because
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Chelsea wrote her script and also mine for this
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part, but I didn't write anything. And Friar
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Benanti had nothing to do with it. And Friar
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Benanti did not translate this into English for
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us. So we're going to go with what Chelsea says
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now. Yeah, we're going to go to that. To recap
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last week, we've met Bud Hopkins, the ufologist,
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Linda, the abductee who was lifted out of her
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apartment in the middle of New York City and
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into a UFO. We've met Dan and Richard through
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their many letters and also the secretary general
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of the UN, Javier Perez de Cuellar. And that's
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all you're getting for the introduction. We're
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going back to the story. April 29, 1991, Linda
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was on her way to the supermarket when she heard
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someone calling her name, Linda, they said. She
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turned and saw Richard. They make small talk
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and Richard points to a black luxury car parked
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nearby with the back door open. He asked Linda
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to take a ride so they can talk. Linda declines,
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but she says he can stop by later so they can
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talk. can talk. Richard says no and his face
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turns dark. He grabs her. Dan jumps out of the
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car and says come on cutie he's got you. They
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shove her into the car and Richard holds her
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down while Dan jumps into the driver's seat and
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squeals away. Linda is kidnapped. While driving,
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Richard and Dan interrogate Linda and demand
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to know who she is working for, if she is working
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for any government or the aliens. Linda denies
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it all and starts to cry. Dan got angry and said,
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you're one of them, aren't you? And demand she
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takes off her shoes so he could examine her feet.
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She complies and shows her feet. Apparently,
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this is how you can tell an alien hybrid if you
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can't tell what's going on. Always on the feet.
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Chelsea, can I just take an aside? I guess. And
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this is one of those weird, we've heard it, I
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don't know how many times, but like in folklore,
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you can tell somebody's not human by their feet.
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Because they're backwards. I don't think so.
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No, but it's weird that that's what they're saying.
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I don't know if it's in the same way that you're
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thinking. You're thinking like... But we don't
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know for sure. We don't know for sure. No, but
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there's many things we don't know for sure in
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this situation because they don't fully explain
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themselves. Exactly. And that's why I say...
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But it is weird they focused on the feet. It
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is true. I get the point that you're making.
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I don't know if that's 100 %... what it is just
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because i know where this is going no i get that
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i just find it weird because that is something
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that is like within folklore and you you made
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the connection with the lady in white as well
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it could be it's just my gut feeling on it but
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it very well could be based on knowing where
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the story goes so she shows her feet and they
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continue to drive around for like another four
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hours asking questions like who are the aliens
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what do they want what do they do what did they
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do when they took her where did they come from
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i think she actually ends up pulling a gun on
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them and they take her back home and they apologize
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so bud comes to the rescue Linda calls Bud. Bud
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wants more info and he knows just how to get
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it. He is going to hypnotize her. And that's
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where they found out that she was abducted in
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a Rolls Royce with a blue United Nations sticker
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and diplomatic plates. Of course, that's where
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you find out those things. Yeah, and a Mercedes
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followed them the entire time. Linda remembers
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a few numbers off the license plate and somehow
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with that Hopkins was able to confirm that the
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car belonged to the secretary general. Few weeks
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later Linda is out and about and here's her name
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called again. I would take off if I was Linda.
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It's Richard and she does take off. Okay good.
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She loses Richard and it's all quiet for a little
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bit at least. In the summer of 1991, a year and
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a half after the UFO abduction, Hopkins received
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a letter from a woman who is a retired telephone
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operator from Putnam County, New York. This is
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a pseudonym name that Hopkins gave her, Janet
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Kimball. Hopkins did not bother to open the original
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letter that she wrote, and in November 1991,
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he received another one from this woman marked
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on the outside confidential regarding Brooklyn
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Bridge. The woman, a widow of about 60, claimed
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to have been driving on the Brooklyn Bridge at
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3 .16 a .m. November 30th, 1989. She reported
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that her car stopped and the lights went out.
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She too saw a large, brightly lit object over
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a building. In fact, the light was so bright
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that she was forced to shield her eyes, though
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she was over a quarter mile away. Nevertheless,
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she claimed to have observed four figures in
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fetal positions emerge from a window. The figure
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simultaneously uncurled and then moved up into
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the craft. Ms. Kimball was quite frightened by
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the event and people in cars behind her were
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running all around their cars with their hands
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on their heads, screaming from horror and disbelief.
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She wrote, quote, I have never traveled back
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to New York City after what I saw and I never
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will again for any reason, end quote. Despite
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her intense fear and all the commotion, she had
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the presence of mind to rummage through her purse
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to find a cigarette lighter to illuminate her
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watch in order to determine the time which aligns
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3 16 a .m with linda's case and hopkins had interviewed
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this woman over the phone the woman claimed to
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have obtained his name in a bookstore she called
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the manhattan directory assistance for his telephone
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number and she alleges that she was reticent
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about speaking about the incident and had only
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told her son daughter sister and brother -in
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-law about the event And in case you're wondering,
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all is quiet on the Richard and Dan front. That's
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until Hopkins receives another letter from Dan
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a few months later. And that's your audio number
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five. Oh, good. Oh, good. Dear Bud, I hope this
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letter finds you in good health and happy spirits.
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Much has happened since I've last contacted you.
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When we questioned Linda last April, we knew
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she was withholding information. Perhaps she
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was frightened and didn't know what our intentions
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were. The fact remains, we still don't know who
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she is. We were led to believe that she is the
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Lady of the Sands, whoever that is. Sorry. We
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were led to believe that she is, quote, Lady
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of the Sands, end quote. Whoever that is. Whatever
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the case, we need to know who she is. As for
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me, Linda is a pain in the rump. I dislike admitting
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that. She can fly to the moon in her spacecraft,
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and the distance wouldn't be far enough as far
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as I'm concerned. On a good day, I think about
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having a heart -to -heart talk with Linda. Linda
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would never consent to such a meeting, but we
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will meet in the future. Linda says she is different,
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but she is different, and I'm going to find out
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the difference. If you can, prepare Linda for
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a visit from me. I don't want her running off
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again. Please stop trying to find us, and please
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tell Linda we honestly don't kill that fish.
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Thank you, buddy. Danny. So, I guess this ties
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into a larger story that I should let you in
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on, because some stuff probably isn't making
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sense to you. Turns out Richard and Dan and Secretary
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General de Cuellar had recovered a hidden memory
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triggered by the events of the past few months.
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After the UFO plunged into the river, the three
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men suddenly found themselves on the beach and
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nearby they saw Linda and three aliens digging
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in the sand. They were speaking a foreign alien
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language, probably German or something. Linda
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and the aliens walked up to the three men with
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a blank look on her face. She held up a dead
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fish and said, look and see what you've done.
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Then one of the aliens walks over and says, Lady
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of the Sands. And notice the aliens had no toes.
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Linda and the aliens walk back out to the water
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and suddenly Richard, Dan and the secretary general
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are back near the car and the secretary general
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is on top of the car. Dan and Richard are shitty
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fucking security details. So anyway, Bud is like,
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whoa, we need to hypnotize you, Linda, to see
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if you remember any of this. And you know what?
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Linda did. She remembers taking samples of the
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sand to see why the fish were dying and being
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called Lady of the Sands, but had no idea what
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that meant. Bud then reads Linda Danny's letter
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that he's going to come for her, the one that
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we just read. And you know what? You think you
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would hope the story ends here, but it fucking
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doesn't. It keeps going. So on October 14th,
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Danny comes for her and shoves her in his car,
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and he's alone this time. And they drive for
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a while, he pulls over, gets up close to Linda,
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I guess he pulled over, kisses her all over her
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face and says, come here, half -breed. And how
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Danny keeps driving, maybe he's not. He's making
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advances on her, and eventually they get to a
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beach house on Long Island. Danny tells Linda
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to make herself at home and goes to make coffee.
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Linda takes the opportunity to look around for
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like something where she is, something identifying,
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maybe a name on an envelope. I don't know. where
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she was, Danny's last name. Who am I with? Where
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am I at? And she finds two framed pictures, one
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of herself next to a lighthouse and one of her
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kissing her son goodbye framed on the wall. Dan
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comes back from the kitchen with a white gift
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wrap bag and inside was like a white nightgown
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from the now infamous abduction night. He wants
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her to put it on. She refuses to put it on. But
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to avoid getting Dan angry, because I guess the
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guy's just an angry son of a bitch. She agrees
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to put it on. Yeah, it sounds like it. Sounds
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like it. Yes. Danny agrees to her putting it
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over her clothes. And when she did, Danny dropped
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down to his knees crying. Oh, my God, it was
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you. And Linda bolts for the beat. She's out
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of there. Danny catches up to her, grabs her,
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and gently starts rocking her back and forth.
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He said, isn't this nice? We'll go far away and
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make a new family. Linda says she doesn't want
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a new family. And Danny snaps and shoves her
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face in the sand, yelling, dig more holes, lady
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of the sands. he tries to kiss her and grabbed
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at her clothes he drags her by the hair to the
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water saying let's wash your face and holds her
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head under the water the undertow helps her to
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break free and too exhausted to fight she just
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lays down on the beach danny comes back to rocking
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her back and forth again linda hears someone
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yelling to get off her in the distance it's richard
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standing at the beach house anyhow long story
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short richard calms dan down and takes Linda
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home. Couple days later, Bud Hopkins gets a fucking
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letter. That's audio number six. Dear Mr. Hopkins,
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I was angered and saddened about the whole incident
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that took place on October 15th concerning Linda
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and Dan. Linda is very special to me and Dan
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is my closest friend. Bud, I want my friend back,
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but he just isn't the same. She is kind of giving.
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Does Linda have this effect on others or are
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we the unusual ones? I can tell you this. If
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she were the ugliest woman around, I would care
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for her just the same. Please tell Linda there's
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no reason to be afraid. Tell her if she runs
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away, I won't chase her. I'm so sorry for what
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happened. Many thanks and kind regards, Richard.
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So there's no audio tape included in this letter,
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but there is a couple photos of Linda running
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away in a white nightgown on the beach included
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with this. Anyhow, Dan is getting psychiatric
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help at this point and what drove him over the
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edge is that Linda was speaking to him telepathically.
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Oh, and regarding the telepathy, turns out before
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the original kidnapping, Linda told them telepathically,
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of course, not to hurt her and be kind. And then
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on the beach with the aliens, Richard telepathically
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told Linda that he loved her and Linda telepathically
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returned his feelings. Thursday, November 21st.
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Linda is on her way to the post office when Richard
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appeared. They spend most of the day together
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and Richard confesses his love for her. Linda
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felt the same but was conflicted because she
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had a family. They talked about their lives,
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blah, blah, blah. And can you guess what happens
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next? Bud receives a letter. This is audio number
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17. Yeah, I was reading that and guessing what
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happens next. the meeting yesterday between linda
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and i went very well she was very relaxed and
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comfortable linda is a very interesting person
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there's no wondering why considering that what
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she may be yes but i believe that linda is from
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another place but raised here Linda is my baby
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Anne. She's real. I came away very angry that
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night after I left her apartment. It wasn't fair,
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but I love her so, but it's too late. I've hinted
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to Linda about our bond, but she doesn't remember.
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Linda has me standing between the fire and the
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water. If I go in any direction, I'll burn or
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I'll drown. Baby Anne, you ask? Well, since Richard
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was 10 years old, he said he had been dreaming
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about a girl. He felt like they grew up together.
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Since they didn't know each other's names, they
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made up one. He called her Baby Ann and she called
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him Mickey. Why they didn't tell each other their
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names is beyond me in the dreams. so as richard
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gets older his relationship suffered because
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he only had feelings for baby ann which is a
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weird fucking name to give someone but hey i
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don't know richard personally he might be a weird
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fucking person he seems like a weird fucking
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person okay the older he got the more richard
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dreamed of baby ann and wanted to spend his life
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with her Richard stopped dreaming about her for
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like 20 years, and it wasn't until he saw the
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suspended woman hanging about New York when he
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realized he found baby Anne. I'm sorry, this
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is serious. Oh, by the way, Dan is now in a mental
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facility. I think I missed that along here somewhere.
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So Bud asked Linda if she had any imaginary friends
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as a child. I'm surprised he didn't hypnotize
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her, but Linda says yes. Mickey! And now that
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you mention it, he looks a lot like Richard.
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And now that you mention it, so does my son Johnny.
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Why do they even need aliens in this story? Like,
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just, like, these three people in their own are
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in their own world. Like, we don't need aliens.
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Yeah, yeah. So, Bud reads the letter to Linda.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Life goes on until
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another letter comes from Danny in the mental
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facility that bore a United Nations stamp and
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postmark. FYI, the UN building in New York has
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a post office anyone can use. Just putting it
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out there. And this is, I think, probably our
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final audio. By the time this Xmas greeting reaches
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you. I will have managed to get out of this place
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successfully. Did you believe that I would let
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you go so easy? It seems like yesterday when
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I hated you. Until I think about looking into
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those big, deep brown eyes of yours. Then the
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hate goes away. I can't wait to watch you move
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as you walk by. I'm going to inscribe our names
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with my lips on that full, heart -shaped mouth.
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linda you don't belong here but i'll find a place
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for you if you see richard tell him i said go
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to hell if i don't get out of here i'll be thinking
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of you if i do i'll be looking at you happy holiday
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pretty danny You read that impeccably. Linda
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also asserted that on December 15th and December
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16th, 1991, one of the men had tried to make
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contact with her near the shopping area of the
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South Street seaport. He was driving a large
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black sedan with Saudi Arabian United Nations
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license plates. I don't even know what that would
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look like. During the first incident to avoid
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him, Linda reported that she went into a shop.
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The second day, a similar thing happened, and
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she stood next to some businessman until he left
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the area. Anyhow, I've had a fucking enough of
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this story, and that's the end of this episode.
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Which is weird, because I believe you have another
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episode coming. Yeah, I do. Okay. And let's just,
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I'm not even going to tell you what it is. Okay.
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I'm over this. This is nuts. And I think that's
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about as much as we need to say here. Honestly,
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it seems like too much middle school drama for
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a UFO episode. Yet here we are. And to be fair,
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the only thing that's been missing from most
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of our UFO episodes is the sex from the middle
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school drama. That doesn't actually happen. But
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they talk about it. Just like they do sometimes.
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It's true. In these weird talks. Like Corey Good.
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Yeah. Yeah. So this is the Manhattan abduction.
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It's not as much detail as I could give you.
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Honestly, I cut a lot of stuff because I was
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like, this doesn't even need to be in this episode.
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But all recounted for you, and I'll give it a
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plug here, witness the true story, the Brooklyn
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Bridge UFO abductions. That's where you're going
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to find the true story. And then you're going
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to find the breakdown of it. in the Netflix documentary.
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But that's all for this episode. Okay. And with
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that, I've been Taylor. You're with Chelsea.
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