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Pete Alonso hits No. 300 as O's win at Citi Field · Birdland Territory

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  Speaker 1: Quite a night at Citi Field.
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  Speaker 2: Pete Alonzo hits his 300th homer to tie the game
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  Speaker 2: in the ninth. And Kobe Baio hits a three-run inside
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  Speaker 2: the park homer to win it in the 11th. He
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  Speaker 2: got a weaver the hard way off the wall in
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  Speaker 2: center field. What a crazy, dramatic, remarkable game, guys. And
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  Speaker 2: we're here to talk about all that happened in that game.
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  Speaker 2: And there were some other fun things to talk about
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  Speaker 2: beyond the dramatic homers. But the reception for two nights
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  Speaker 2: has been amazing. A curtain call. I mean, some things
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  Speaker 2: you just don't see in baseball. And what are your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts the morning after the 300th homer tied the game
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  Speaker 2: in the ninth?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, still I kind of said it in
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  Speaker 3: the last episode. I don't think I've ever seen anything
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  Speaker 3: like this. Usually it's one at bat, and the player
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  Speaker 3: kind of goes on the rest of the series, and
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  Speaker 3: he gets his tribute video, and he has a couple. But,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, to get a curtain call from the opposing stadium,
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  Speaker 3: never seen it. And we might never see it again.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, especially with a game time home run in
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  Speaker 3: the ninth inning and the Mets fans on top of it,
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  Speaker 3: it's a New York fan base, which, you know, they
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  Speaker 3: have a reputation of being a little hostile.
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  Speaker 4: So it's, it's kind of wild to me.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's, has a lot to do with Pete
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  Speaker 3: and then also just kind of the Mets frustration with
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  Speaker 3: their front office and all the, you know, things that
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  Speaker 3: kind of go into that, but it's, It's truly remarkable.
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  Speaker 4: And just seeing.
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  Speaker 3: Videos of Pete after the game, he got the 300
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  Speaker 3: ball home run ball back from the fans. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: couldn't have been nicer. If you have a chance, go
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  Speaker 3: check out that video. It was pretty awesome to see
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  Speaker 3: and kind of just how genuine Pete is. And I
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  Speaker 3: think Oriole fans are really starting to truly understand just
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  Speaker 3: how humble and how much of a great human he
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  Speaker 3: is on top of a great baseball player.
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  Speaker 5: Just a crazy scene guys. And, and I thought it
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  Speaker 5: was interesting. I'm not sure if you guys saw some
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  Speaker 5: of the comments from some Mets players, Sean Manio started
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  Speaker 5: last night's game. He even said like, all right, man,
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  Speaker 5: this is a little much, but like maybe, maybe it'd
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  Speaker 5: be cool if you cheer for us. Kind of, I'm
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  Speaker 5: paraphrasing of course. You could tell he was a little
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  Speaker 5: irked by the curtain call, but it's more of a
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  Speaker 5: testament to Pete Alonzo in how good of a ball
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  Speaker 5: player he was. And I, what he is as a
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  Speaker 5: human being. And, and Brad, you brought up that video
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  Speaker 5: and it was awesome. I think it was SNY that
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  Speaker 5: tweeted it out and Pete couldn't have been nicer to
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  Speaker 5: those fans, taking pictures, giving them bats, saying, Hey, you
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  Speaker 5: guys ever want tickets to Camden yards? I'll give you
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  Speaker 5: batting practice tickets. Like, please go. He just couldn't have
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  Speaker 5: been a nicer guy, but I thought the topper to me, guys, Pete,
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  Speaker 5: you just flashed up the graphics, Steve. The 10th fastest
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  Speaker 5: player all time to 300 home runs. And that's such
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  Speaker 5: a big moment for him and his career. But his
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  Speaker 5: postgame presser with Rob Long of Masson or even in
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  Speaker 5: the clubhouse, he was talking about his teammates. He wasn't
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  Speaker 5: talking about himself. He was saying, man, how about the
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  Speaker 5: bullpen really picking up Shane Boz after he had to
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  Speaker 5: leave the game, scary comebacker that hit off his elbow.
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  Speaker 5: Kobe Mayo with the inside the park home run. Pete
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  Speaker 5: was almost deflecting and shining the light on those other
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  Speaker 5: guys that came through in a big-time spot in last
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  Speaker 5: night's win.
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  Speaker 2: None of that they get to celebrate, though, without Pete
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  Speaker 2: Alonso's homer. That's what his teammates would say back to
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  Speaker 2: him because they're trailing 3-2 with two outs to go
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  Speaker 2: in the game. And so he hits the homer with
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  Speaker 2: one out in the ninth. off Cody Senga to tie
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  Speaker 2: it at 3-3. It was number 36. He hit it 4-14.
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  Speaker 2: He's got an 861 OPS for the year. All this
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  Speaker 2: stuff is incredibly impressive. And so is this. This is,
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  Speaker 2: he has the third most homers of any player through
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  Speaker 2: their first eight seasons. This is Sarah Langs of MLB.com,
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  Speaker 2: who has such incredible stats and notes that she researches.
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  Speaker 2: Ralph Kiner, 329, Albert Bell, 319, and Pete Alonso, 300.
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  Speaker 2: I actually wrote down Babe Ruth is 162, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: because he was pitching for some of those years. So
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  Speaker 2: he sort of eliminated him from playing every day and
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  Speaker 2: hitting homers.
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  Speaker 4: Hank Aaron, 253.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, Pete Alonso has more homers through his
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  Speaker 2: first eight seasons than Henry Aaron. And anybody who's not
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  Speaker 2: on that list there kinder pulls Alonso. So just pretty
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  Speaker 2: stunning stuff. RBIs still matter, at least the three of us.
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  Speaker 2: We've made that clear. And this guy just racks up
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  Speaker 2: homers in RBIs production. Production is his middle.
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  Speaker 1: Name, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the crazy part is he has– that includes
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  Speaker 3: the 2020 season, which was only 40 games or whatever
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  Speaker 3: the season was that year. So it just goes to
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  Speaker 3: show how prolific he's been his first eight seasons, and
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  Speaker 3: he hasn't stopped.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like he's going to slow.
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  Speaker 3: And we know Camden Yards is a much better hitting
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  Speaker 3: park than Citi Field is.
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  Speaker 4: So, I mean, you could just.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine how many home runs he might hit the next
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  Speaker 3: few years, the more comfortable he gets. Cause he got
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  Speaker 3: off to such a slow start and was kind of
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  Speaker 3: almost trying to figure out Camden yard. It seemed like
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  Speaker 3: it almost, it was almost like he was thinking it
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  Speaker 3: was city field still the way he was trying to
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  Speaker 3: hit home runs. And he realized, Hey, right. Field's more
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  Speaker 3: available than it is to left field. So he kind
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  Speaker 3: of seemed to change his approach there in like about may.
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  Speaker 3: And he's been back to hitting tons of home runs
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  Speaker 3: like he does. So it's just been, ultra productive year
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  Speaker 3: for pete and just uh continue to do what he
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  Speaker 3: does and like we've mentioned probably 100 times on the
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  Speaker 3: show everything and more you could possibly imagine from him
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  Speaker 3: when they sign him to this big deal uh this offseason.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah brad i was going to bring up that point
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  Speaker 5: about the covid year like it makes you wonder they
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  Speaker 5: played 60 games that year pete played in 57 so
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  Speaker 5: pete missed out on a 100 games like where could
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  Speaker 5: he have been second could he have been first all
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  Speaker 5: time uh you know, through the first eight seasons of
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  Speaker 5: a major leaguers career, he's just such a steady presence guys.
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  Speaker 5: Like you can just look at his numbers and every
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  Speaker 5: single year they're, they're pretty much identical what he puts
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  Speaker 5: up in terms of home runs, RBIs, OPS, just a
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  Speaker 5: rock solid player.
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  Speaker 2: Impressive stuff for Pete Alonzo last night, but not everyone
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  Speaker 2: did like it. You've noted Sean Mania. I want to
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  Speaker 2: check out his quote. After the game last night when
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  Speaker 2: So Pete Alonzo hits number 36 in the ninth. The
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  Speaker 2: Orioles beat the Mets in 11 innings 7-5. They've won
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  Speaker 2: four of their last six, are 74-78, and with 10
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  Speaker 2: to go, they're now 20-20 since they made the trades.
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  Speaker 2: They were four games under. Now they're 500 with these
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  Speaker 2: last couple of wins. And so if I can find
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  Speaker 2: these quotes real quick. Shum and I, the Mets, was
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  Speaker 2: not completely thrilled. He said of the cheers for Alonzo,
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  Speaker 2: I've got nothing but respect for him.
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  Speaker 1: I love him to death.
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  Speaker 2: But as a team, the 26 Mets, I know we've
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  Speaker 2: definitely underperformed. But the guys in here work their ass
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  Speaker 2: off every day. To have that kind of reaction to
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  Speaker 2: the opposing player could be anybody.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy to me.
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  Speaker 2: I've got nothing but respect for Pete, but I've never
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  Speaker 2: seen anything like that before. I know the guys in
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  Speaker 2: here were grinding our butts off and stuff like that happens.
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like that. Kind of crazy. So
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  Speaker 2: I kind of get his point a little bit. If
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  Speaker 2: we can force ourselves into their shoes, that would probably
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  Speaker 2: be a little frustrating. Brad, you probably can somewhat.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I definitely understand it. I mean, like you said,
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  Speaker 3: they're out there grinding, and it's tough when an opposing
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  Speaker 3: player gets– probably more love than any one of their
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  Speaker 3: players has gotten this entire season.
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  Speaker 4: So it's, it's definitely frustrating.
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  Speaker 3: And I have a lot of friends who are a
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  Speaker 3: diehard Met fans growing up in New Jersey. I was
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  Speaker 3: a Met fan as a kid and it's a, it's a,
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  Speaker 3: it can be a tough fan base when you're winning.
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  Speaker 3: They absolutely love you when you're losing, you're going to
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  Speaker 3: hear from them. But I think this is just kind
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  Speaker 3: of frustrated frustration boiling over where you're supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: the top, if not one of the top three markets in,
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  Speaker 3: in the entire league and you lose a player of
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  Speaker 3: this stature to the Baltimore Orioles, he comes back, not
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  Speaker 3: only ties the game in the ninth inning, it's his
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  Speaker 3: 300th home run. They're just there in their minds. They're
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  Speaker 3: thinking Pete Alonzo should have done that in a Met uniform.
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  Speaker 3: There was no reason why. And I think they're just
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  Speaker 3: kind of voicing their frustration with the front office. They're
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  Speaker 3: chanting fire sterns while, you know, right after all the,
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  Speaker 3: you know, his current call Pete's current call last night.
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  Speaker 3: So it's, I just think it's frustration boiling over, but yes,
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  Speaker 3: as a, as a player on that team, you, It's
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  Speaker 3: got to be a little frustrating.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same time, you're kind of underperforming this year.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of one of those things. But I have
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  Speaker 3: to agree with Shaman. I've never seen anything like that.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if we'll ever see it again.
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  Speaker 5: We said it yesterday. And for it to still carry
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  Speaker 5: over a day later and for him to get a
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  Speaker 5: curtain call. i steve you've been covering baseball a long
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  Speaker 5: time have you ever seen an opposing player get a
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  Speaker 5: curtain call i can't think of it off the top
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  Speaker 5: of my head but look i do wonder circumstances right
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  Speaker 5: if the mets were performing to the level that we
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  Speaker 5: thought they would and and At this point, they have
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  Speaker 5: a playoff spot wrapped up. They're competing for that division.
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  Speaker 5: I do wonder what the reception would have been like
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  Speaker 5: for Pete. I'm sure it still would have been positive,
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  Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, but would it have been as
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  Speaker 5: over the top as it has been these past couple days?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, Steve.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say too, they keep flashing on
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  Speaker 3: the screen. I saw it the first game. I've seen
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  Speaker 3: it throughout the year. I've heard my friends talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Just how, how poorly the first baseman for the Mets collectively,
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  Speaker 3: regardless of playing first base.
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  Speaker 4: How bad they've done. I want to say.
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  Speaker 3: As a team, I think he'd be 31st or 32nd
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  Speaker 3: in the league at first base production. So this is
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  Speaker 3: like just a big slap in the face when Pete
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  Speaker 3: comes back, hits the home run. I just think it
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  Speaker 3: was like a culmination of all of it. And just
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  Speaker 3: seeing him do it in another uniform just has to
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  Speaker 3: be infuriating.
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  Speaker 5: It's also overlooked because of the 300th home run. But
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  Speaker 5: how about Pete's diving stop in extra innings, by the way?
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  Speaker 5: It was a heck of a defensive play in extras.
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  Speaker 2: And if we could survey every one of those Mets fans,
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  Speaker 2: which of course we cannot, I think their message I'm
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  Speaker 2: speaking for them.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I don't really have a right to, I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know Mets fans, but my guess is the reason they
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  Speaker 2: cheer is because of what the management of the team
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  Speaker 2: let get away. It's like, they'd almost say to the clubhouse,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't about you guys.
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  Speaker 1: We love you guys. This is about what your bosses
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  Speaker 1: let walk away and you don't have to help you now.
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  Speaker 1: So that was a cheer.
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  Speaker 2: For Pete and against Mets management. And I've heard two
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  Speaker 2: reasons given for why they let him get away. One
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  Speaker 2: is the Juan Soto deal. All that money went there.
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  Speaker 2: And the second is, well, he's 31. Do you want
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  Speaker 2: to sign him into his mid-30s? It feels like when
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  Speaker 2: it's your guy, it's hard to let that get away.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I think Mets fans are feeling a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, I mean, Pete's the all time leader
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  Speaker 3: in home runs for Mets in the history of the franchise.
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  Speaker 3: So you're talking about Hall of Fame players that he's
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  Speaker 3: had more than Darryl Strawberry, David Wright, some of the
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  Speaker 3: biggest names in Mets history. And they kind of just
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  Speaker 3: let him walk away. Like I said, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: the contract details or whatever. the case may be, but
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  Speaker 3: I think in the eyes of Mets fans, they let
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  Speaker 3: our guy, like you said, Steve, go away. And now
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  Speaker 3: he comes back and he hits his monumental home run
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  Speaker 3: in his career in a different uniform. So I just
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  Speaker 3: think it was just a culmination of all of it
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  Speaker 3: that like, you're supposed to be the Mets. You're supposed
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  Speaker 3: to sign these guys and especially their guy, the leader
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  Speaker 3: in home runs in the history of the Mets. And
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  Speaker 3: now he's not playing for them. And he comes back
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  Speaker 3: and hits this, you know, 300th home run. I just
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  Speaker 3: think it was kind of a slap in the face
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  Speaker 3: of the Mets fans that loved him so much. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: from the reception we've seen him gotten the last couple
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  Speaker 3: of two nights.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it is kind of rubbing it in
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  Speaker 5: David Stern's face, right? There've been several fire Stern's chance
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  Speaker 5: over the past couple of nights, but I almost feel
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  Speaker 5: like them cheering and being so over the top and,
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  Speaker 5: and Pete hitting his 300th at city field. It's, it's
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  Speaker 5: almost like they want to rub that in Stern's face.
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  Speaker 4: We told you. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you guys get the impression it was more
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  Speaker 2: Stern's call than Steve Cohen?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's a good question.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. And then, like, I just know from
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  Speaker 3: back when I was with them and around that time,
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  Speaker 3: there was an extension on the table for Pete long-term
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  Speaker 3: that turned down. So there was all this back and
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  Speaker 3: forth between, oh, he could have been a Met if
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  Speaker 3: he wanted to. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: it's last year he had one of his most productive seasons.
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  Speaker 3: They had a chance to re-sign him. and the Orioles
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  Speaker 3: came in and gave a better offer, which you would
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  Speaker 3: think would never happen. That's just kind of the way
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it now. Yes, there was opportunities in
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  Speaker 3: the past to sign him long-term and keep him met forever,
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  Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, they kind of
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  Speaker 3: let him slip away, and I think it's just kind
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  Speaker 3: of rubbed in their face now. So I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if it was Steve Cohen or if it was David Stearns,
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  Speaker 3: but obviously they together couldn't come down to a decision
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  Speaker 3: to keep their franchise first baseman there for the rest
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  Speaker 3: of his career.
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  Speaker 6: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Related to Mike Messina in this sense, when he left
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  Speaker 2: the Orioles for the Yankees and he came back the
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  Speaker 2: first time, there were media saying he needed to cheer him.
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  Speaker 2: And I said to those media guys, if it was
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  Speaker 2: anybody but the Yankees, maybe they would. They're just not
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  Speaker 2: cheering a Yankee. Now, if Pete Alonzo came back as
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  Speaker 2: a Yankee against the Mets, Brad, you've been a Met.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if that would have been a different reception.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably would have been a little different. I would
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  Speaker 3: imagine it probably would be a little different. Like I said,
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  Speaker 3: I think the Orioles to the Mets are just kind
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  Speaker 3: of the little brother. They're a cute team, a couple
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  Speaker 3: states south, and they play in the AL East, but
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  Speaker 3: they're not like the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 4: They're not the Yankees.
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  Speaker 3: They're not the bigger market Phillies.
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  Speaker 4: Say he signed with the Phillies. He comes back.
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  Speaker 3: As a Philly to Citi Field, he's probably not getting
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  Speaker 3: the same reception. So it definitely, I think, has more
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  Speaker 3: so to do with being against a team that's not
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  Speaker 3: in their division, they're not competing against. And like Tim said,
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  Speaker 3: I think it has a lot to do with where
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  Speaker 3: they're in the standings also. If that was a tie
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  Speaker 3: game and they're going for a pennant or they're trying
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  Speaker 3: to make the playoffs, I don't think he's getting the
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  Speaker 3: same reception. But I think it was just kind of
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: the perfect storm of kind of a little bit of
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: everything right now.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Interesting stuff.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: They showed Cohen talking around the batting cage with Pete
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: on Monday night, I think. I wonder how that conversation went.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, what did he say? Pete, I really messed
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: this up, man. Gosh, I wish I had a mulligan
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: on this.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he said, but I mean, Pete,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: to his credit, has never criticized the Mets. He always said, hey,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: they did what they wanted to do rather than say,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what they were thinking, you know,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: what you could have said. So because I think media
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: has teed him up to say that and to be
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: critical and he just hasn't.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: So he just is really good about stuff like that, too.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: And I think Oriole fans this week already knew how
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: much this guy is going to mean for the team.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: And and he just got cemented a little more with
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: what he did. Big Homer, big moment. It was fun
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: to watch from a distance here as Pete had a
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: wonderful night at Citi Field and so did the Orioles.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that. Coming up here on Birdland Territory.
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• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Kobe Mayo, three run inside the park home run in
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the 11th. The center fielder just couldn't quite get there.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: And so it was a Weaver the hard way in
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the first inside the parker for the Orioles and Jorge
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Mateo on August 20th, 2023. And that was dramatic too.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: And Pete, by the way, had just struck out. And
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the Orioles were about to blow a rally there. If
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: you don't score in the top inning and extra innings,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you're probably going to lose.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: So that was as huge as it gets as well.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: It's just funny seeing that on the same list. Baseball
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: is just amazing.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: It's so fun every single night, but, Yeah, like you said, Steve,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: that game could have been– I mean, he was very
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: close to catching that ball on center field last night
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: and going into that inning with no runs at all.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: So kind of not a lucky break because obviously Kobe
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Mayo hit it really well, and it goes to show
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: city field to center field plays gigantic because Kobe Mayo's
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: reaction when he hit it, it was a no-doubter. He
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: kind of stood there and watched it, and it didn't
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: get quite out, but it got out far enough and
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: banged off the wall there and kind of in the
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: perfect spot for– it would have at least scored two,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: but it was nice to get that third run especially
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: in extra innings there with, you know, the kind of
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: you're succeeding the one run almost guaranteed every single inning,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: it seems like. So that was a great insurance run
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: to get him all the way around the bases there
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: in the 11th.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Really remarkable to see how Kobe Mayo was able to
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: bounce back from a really, really tough start to the
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: season where since the all-star break, guys, he's been one
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: of their best players. I mean, maybe you could say
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Pete and obviously CES has been really strong as well,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: but Kobe Mayo now is second on this team in
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: home runs, which I don't know who could have predicted
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: that back in April or May. He's really blossoming down
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: the stretch, and it's just going to continue to make
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: those conversations about him, where does he fit in 2027,
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: that much more interesting because he is really coming into
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: his own before our eyes.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: He really is.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Nine homers his last 25 games. That's about 90 at-bats.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: He's hitting one every 10 at-bats. You get 500 or
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: 600 at-bats in the season. Do the math on that.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Pro-rate that out. Now they've got to find a position
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: for 2027. That's a big issue here. What's it going
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: to be? Did he even consider outfield here? because outfield
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: is where they need offense.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if that pushes them even more
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: in that direction.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: If you think about it, if Kobe Mayo had did
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: this last year at the end of the season, do
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: they go in the offseason and think about signing Pete Alonzo? Like,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: it's just kind of funny how it all is kind of.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Coming full circle here.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Like, if Kobe Mayo had showed this last year, maybe
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: you don't go out in free agency and sign Pete
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: because you want to keep him more at first base.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I feel like they were getting more comfortable with him
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: at first base last year. So it's a good problem
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: to have, like we've mentioned a few times on the show.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: You want to have as many hitters as you possibly can,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: and hopefully you can find a position and find a
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: way to get them all out on the field at
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: the same time. So Kobe Mayo is definitely making it
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: harder on them to find somewhere to put him in
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: the lineup next year every single time. We know he's
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: going to be out there against the lefties, but I
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: think he's starting to prove it that he needs to
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: be out there every single.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Day, even if a ready starter is on the mound.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Performing better against right-handed pitching over the past month or
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: so and the numbers bear that out and it's also
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: worth mentioning guys that ces hit a solo home run
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: and had a multi-hit game right well so it's it's
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: it just makes the the situation that much more interesting.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: So here is the oriole situation right now 74 and
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: 78 after the second.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Mets game, 10 left.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: As we said, they were 54-58 at the deadline, 20
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and 20 cents.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: That's better.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: As we know now, that's not good enough because they
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: need a few more wins there, and then they might
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: be on the doorstep of the playoffs. They're not eliminated.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: They're not out of it. It's kind of dire at
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: this point, as we know. They kind of almost have
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: to roll off 10 wins here. They actually would need
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: to go 7-3 just to get to 500 the rest
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: of the way, so kind of challenging for the Orioles.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Shane Bosch took one off the right elbow.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: The good news was x-rays were negative, and he told
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: reporters after the game he thinks he can make his
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: final start or two.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: That is good. To me, guys, it was fun to watch.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: The guy they call LDL, Luis De Leon, two scoreless.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: He got out Juan Soto. He got out Lindor. He
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: got out Bichette. This guy was pitching at AA a
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: couple of months ago.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Four straight scoreless, five and.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Two-thirds, during which hitters in MLB are one for 16.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: This is fun to watch.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really fun to watch.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: And honestly, when I watched that Juan Soto at bat,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I've faced him before. I've seen tons of guys face him.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: He does not take swings like he did in that at-bat.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: It's just kind of like he was looking up at
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: the scoreboard, seeing the velocity, trying to figure out almost
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: what pitches he was throwing, and that to me goes
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: to show that he's got really good stuff. Juan Soto
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: can hit off of anybody he has done in his
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: entire career, and I just think that at-bat to me
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: proved that he's got something that most lefties or righties
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: or any pitcher in the major leagues don't have because
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Juan Soto looked confused up there, and that was really
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: impressive to see. But his splitter he was throwing was nasty.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: The slider, the sweeper, slider, whatever he throws is really
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: nasty too. Obviously, he has plus velocity from the left side,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: and he just looked really comfortable out there. I feel
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: like he's looked comfortable even from that first appearance in
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Coors Field. But I just think the more appearances he
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: gets under his belt, the better he's looking and even
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: more comfortable he's starting to look on the mound out there.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: I've been super impressed with him, man. And down the stretch,
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: you're trying, someone like Luis De Leon, you're trying to
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: make an impact on this coaching staff, on this front office. Because, hey,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: if you're him, I want to try to break spring
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: training with the club at opening day. Why limit yourself
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: at this point? You've already made your debut. And he's
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: proven that he belongs, guys. He really does. He's got
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: nasty stuff. The splitter is really, really filthy.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: And.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: they haven't eased him in. Remember Craig Albernaz? Hey, we're
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: going to keep him out of high leverage spots. Boom.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: That spot in Colorado that you mentioned, Brad, he ended
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: up giving the home run, giving up the home run.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: But even in that game, I thought he was really sharp.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: It was just that one pitch. And, and remember in
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: that debut, I believe that was when Jackson holiday had
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: an error. His first couple of outings, his defense didn't
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: exactly help him out. So I've been really impressed with
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Luis de Leon.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Hard not to.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Six-game sample, 245 ERA, 068 whip. Pretty strong stuff. Let's
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: give you another note or two on this young lefty
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: in a minute here on Birdland Territory.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: For most of his minor league.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Career, with DeLeon, who was, I believe, a $ 40, 000 international signing,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: by the way, at age like 19.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: That's the league for international. And look at what he
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: turned into, preseason top 100. He was two-seam slider. You know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: get a heavy dose of ground balls, and the slider
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: put away. He started to throw the splitter last year,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: just toyed with it. Really found it mid-season this year.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: When I went to see him at Bowie in mid-year,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: The coaches there told me the splitter, man, is coming
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: on fast for this kid. And last night, 12 two-seamers,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: six split, one slider.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So to me, he's really leaning on this pitch at
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the big league level, and it's been something to watch.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: That split has come fast.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can only speak on my own experience,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: but I was really fastball slider. I had a changeup
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: that I toyed with a little bit when I was
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: with San Diego, but when I got to Baltimore– For me,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: that was a career changer. Just being able to throw
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: that kind of mind was a change up, but it
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: acted like a split finger fastball.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: So it was for me, that was the biggest difference.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: It helped me against opposite facing lefties and just really
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: made such a separation between my slider and my fastball.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: And that's kind of what you see with him here.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I feel like if you have a two-seam slider, you
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: can have success at the big league level. But when
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: you mix in that third dominant pitch, which that splitter
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: to me really could be dominant, you just go to
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the next level. And that's really, you know, Steve, I
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: had heard you, remembered you mentioning that he had started
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: tinkering with the split last year.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: And to me, that's his separator.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what can take him to the
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: next level and really become a big time either bullpen
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: or honestly in the rotation if they decide to bring
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: him back there.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: That third pitch is going to be tremendous for him
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: for his career.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: It's been nasty, and it's worth mentioning too, guys. He
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: transitioned into being a reliever. What did he have, Steve?
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Four outings at Norfolk as a reliever? I mean, when
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: you throw in everything together, it just makes it that
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: much more impressive what he's doing. He looks really comfortable.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: He looks like a reliever.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. we talked on a previous show about Craig Albert
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: as telling the media recently, when I asked about this,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: you know, the whole organization sort of had a powwow
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: on this kid. Can we, should we do this or not?
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: And the consensus was, I thought we think he can
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: handle it. Let's throw them into the deep end. And
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: they did. And he's handled it. And he looks, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: he's getting out Juan Soto at city field.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Three weeks ago, who would have thought that?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: And so to me though, if he's got these three pitches,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I still see a starter here. I hope that's what
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: they do. When I asked him about a week ago,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: does he know the plans for 27? He didn't yet.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: And so I don't, it'd be interesting to see, but
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: what do you guys think next year?
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: What do you do with this kid?
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: For me, I just feel like if he's not going
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: to be in the start in a starter role, I
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: still want to see him in the bullpen. And I
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: want to see him using like a multi inning because
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of, there's a lot of chances early
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: on the season when you don't want to push the
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: starters past a certain number of pitches past a certain
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: amount of innings to where you can throw a guy
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: like Albert Suarez is used two, three, four innings at
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: a time. And I just would love to see him
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: in a more extended role because I feel like last
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: night that two inning, I felt like he was getting
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: stronger as he got through a second inning. And to me,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: that goes to show me that he can be a
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: starter and, and has the chance to give you length
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: for this rotation in the future. And it's, it's probably
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: end up being a numbers game. And I don't know
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: how many innings he threw this year, but I don't
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: think it's on the top end of what you would
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: want for a starter. So that's why I feel like
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: if you start them in the bullpen role and kind
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: of give them a chance to build up his innings
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: while he's on the big league roster, I just feel
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: like that would only benefit this kid at this point.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: I think, At worst, guys, this is a player that
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: can certainly help the 2027 Orioles on the season, like
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: not just in the first here at the end for
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: September call-ups. Look, I don't want to give up on
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Luis de Leon as a starter, and I think part
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: of how they approach LDL might be what they do
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: this offseason. Is Trevor Rodgers back? Do they acquire another
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: starting pitcher, whether that's through free agency or or a trade,
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: like how stacked is the cupboard in terms of the
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: starting rotation? And I think that might give them a
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: lean in how they handle Luis de Leon.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I think.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I think the roster makeup of the team a couple
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: months from now, they make that final call, and it
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: could be one of those deals where they bring him
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: to spring training. Hopefully there is a spring training and
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: stretch him out so they have the option to do
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: either one. If they want him to start, he's thrown
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: some innings and you can always go back to relief
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: because look, he did it this year in the major leagues.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Luis De Leon is for real. It's so exciting to
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: see I had wondered for years, who's going to be
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the first international pitcher to break through?
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And this is the guy. And so he tells me
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Yaki Rivera should be next. That's his choice. He's been
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: pitching very well at AAA when I asked Deleon the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: other day.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: It's so exciting to see someone from the international program
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: doing this at the major league level. And there is
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: more to come. Aaron Estrada just moved to AAA. They
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: just acquired NDA. Azokar, we talked about the other day.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Oriole International is humming, folks, and it's going to be
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: big because 25% of the clubhouse, on average, are international players.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: It's a market you can not ignore if you want
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: to win Major League Baseball games. So exciting to see Visayo,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: exciting to see Deleon, and more to come from that.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Steve, real quick before we end, I just got to
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: shout out the bullpen. That was a phenomenal job last night.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: It's really, really becoming such a strength of this team,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: and it's just something that I think Oriole fans– should
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: be extremely excited about moving forward in 2027 because they've
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: had multiple arms step up in big-time roles, and it's
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: been really fun to watch here the last couple months,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: especially the last three or four weeks.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: We should end the show with shout-outs. That's probably a
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: better way.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: To do it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I couldn't end the show without recognizing because that was
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: a phenomenal job last night.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, in the series at Citi Field,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: no earned runs in 11 innings for the bullpen, an
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: incredible night last night when Bosco's out early. And by
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the way, I noted after the game last night, seven
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: straight games without a quality start.
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  Speaker 1: That's about the longest stretch of the year.
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  Speaker 2: So as the rotation is kind of falling off a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, the bullpen is pulling up their end.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll talk more about that, of course, in future shows.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: But thanks for checking us out today as we had
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  Speaker 2: a fun time talking about an incredible game at Citi Field.
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  Speaker 1: Baseball never fails to thrill us. And they did again
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 2: We will catch you next time with another edition of
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Birdland Territory.
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