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Passive Aggressive Smiles and Crazy Eyes (Real Housewives of Rhode Island S1 E10) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with on our radio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Almost Famous. It's Ben and Lauren here
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  Speaker 2: to break down another episode of the Real Housewives of
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  Speaker 2: Rhode Island. This episode was jam packed with scenes and
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  Speaker 2: moments and there's so much emotional introspection that I want
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  Speaker 2: to walk through. But before we get into it, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about what will happened? Watch What Happens Live.
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  Speaker 3: It's such a coveted show and like, it's so cool
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  Speaker 3: to see Ashley on there, Like everyone thinks that that
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  Speaker 3: is cooler than just being a real housewife.
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  Speaker 4: What made it that cool?
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  Speaker 2: Is it Andy specifically, or like why is it so
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  Speaker 2: such a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think like favorites go on there,
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  Speaker 3: I guess. And it's cool because Andy is such a
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  Speaker 3: cool guy and if he likes you, then like you're
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  Speaker 3: kind of in and it's just like a cool like
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  Speaker 3: late night place, so you can like say your piece
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  Speaker 3: before the reunion. Like not everyone gets that opportunity. This
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  Speaker 3: is my first really watch what happens that I watched?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, same here.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's interesting, Lord, I've been as we just kind
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  Speaker 2: of talk about Bravo in general, I have been surprised,
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  Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised and intrigued with how they've built this like
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  Speaker 2: loyalty and excitement around it. When I grew up, Bravo
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  Speaker 2: was not at all what it is today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember Bravo was like just queer eye, queer
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  Speaker 3: eye for the straight guy. Sure, yeah, that got the
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  Speaker 3: ball rolling?
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  Speaker 4: Was that Andy?
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  Speaker 3: I will give him credit for it. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if he deserves it, but I'll give him credit for it.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's pretty exciting. Well, Ashley and Jared did make
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  Speaker 2: an appearance. Jared was mixing the cocktails and Ashley got
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  Speaker 2: to speak her peace.
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  Speaker 4: Louren, what stood out to you?
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  Speaker 3: I like that actually has had many platforms this week
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  Speaker 3: to debunk all the ship that Kelsey was saying against Ashley.
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  Speaker 3: So she had that platform on like two different podcasts,
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  Speaker 3: and then she had on Watch What Happens and they
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  Speaker 3: were like, so Kelsey said that you know, she reaches
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  Speaker 3: out and you don't respond, and she was like, here
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  Speaker 3: are the texts, here are the receipts, And so I
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  Speaker 3: think that there's no rebuttal for Kelsey at this point
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  Speaker 3: because there are the receipts. I also thought it was
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  Speaker 3: great when they played the like Defend your Friend, where
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  Speaker 3: they brought up everything Rosie has done, and Ashley had
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  Speaker 3: a fantastic response each time they they're like, defend Rosie
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  Speaker 3: on the fight, defend Rosie on the square footage, and
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  Speaker 3: she like had something valid every time. Oh, in this week,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that, Dave Portnoy came
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  Speaker 3: out and said, I guess because it's a crossover between
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  Speaker 3: Bravo and Sport and obviously he's the sportsman that Rosie
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  Speaker 3: was allegedly sleeping with a head coach of a basketball team,
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  Speaker 3: I think, And so Rosie had to come out and say,
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  Speaker 3: not true, it never ever met him. So she went
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  Speaker 3: on many platforms and said she never ever met him
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  Speaker 3: and actually got to defend her on that stance too.
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  Speaker 4: Did the name of the coach get put out there?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the name of the coach got put out there,
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  Speaker 3: but like genuinely she's like, I've actually never met him.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know how I can say this over
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  Speaker 3: and over again. You guys believe me? Yeah, because Dave
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  Speaker 3: port and I said that, it got to like so
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  Speaker 3: many different people that would not normally watch the show,
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  Speaker 3: Like guys are talking about it because like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: my team started losing when he started sleeping with this woman.
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  Speaker 3: So she really had to come out and be like guys,
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  Speaker 3: everyone over the internet. None, none of that happened.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I know this coach, Wow, that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: But but Rosie saying, hey, never met the guy, not
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  Speaker 2: a thing. Yeah, then if this isn't real, goodness gracious,
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  Speaker 2: how how much do we feel for that coach that's
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  Speaker 2: gotten dragged into a.
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  Speaker 4: Mess that he.
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  Speaker 3: May have done it with someone else but not a housewife.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure at some point in his life he
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  Speaker 2: has yeah, you know, had had that kind of interaction
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  Speaker 2: with a with another person.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know if Rosie is the one.
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  Speaker 2: It is good for Ashley, the clear the air. It's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I think for Ashley it's a big deal. But really,
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  Speaker 2: Ashley has stayed unscathed through this whole thing. Crossers, Lauren,
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  Speaker 2: what's your thoughts on Jared? How's he looking at of
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  Speaker 2: all this? Through all this?
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  Speaker 3: He's looking great? I don't see. I think he's a
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  Speaker 3: fan favorite. Honestly, people love people love him. He's an
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  Speaker 3: un problematic, handsome king, so they all they all love him.
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  Speaker 3: I know that, like he doesn't like to hear about
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  Speaker 3: the extra drama that goes on behind the scenes, and
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  Speaker 3: like once filming's over, he's kind like, Okay, we did it.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't cause any drama, so let's just like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: be happy about that. So he like closes his ears
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  Speaker 3: and goes la la, la, la la every time ouches
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  Speaker 3: on the phone with me giving me extra juice.
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  Speaker 2: Is it hard for you to sit down and do
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  Speaker 2: what we're doing here with as much as you know
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  Speaker 2: and how much you've been influenced by your sister.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think it's more fun because like you can
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  Speaker 3: look at it in a different way and kind of
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  Speaker 3: understand things a little bit better because I can see
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  Speaker 3: beyond the fourth wall and kind of understand the fight's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit better. But we'll get into that when
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  Speaker 3: get to lose his fight this week. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I think the question so many people have been asking
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  Speaker 2: us as we've started the breakdown is you would know,
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  Speaker 2: and I think you can answer it. Is this show scripted?
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  Speaker 2: Some of this stuff, especially this episode, is so outrageous
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  Speaker 2: that you're like they've had to tell these people just
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  Speaker 2: to have this argument and let it explode to whatever
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  Speaker 2: point and then we'll be friends after. Is this scripted
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  Speaker 2: or not?
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  Speaker 3: No, it's just not scripted. I have nothing else to
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  Speaker 3: elaborate on, Like, there's just this is just how they feel,
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  Speaker 3: very organic.
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  Speaker 2: They just found the right people to battle it out.
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  Speaker 2: See episode after episode again, if you haven't watched, watch
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  Speaker 2: What Happens Live. Ashley was a part of that. Jared
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  Speaker 2: was there. It's fantastic when.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Caitlen was there. Yeah, because everyone is allowed to
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  Speaker 3: bring like a friend of and put them in the audience.
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  Speaker 3: I've learned that this week. So Caitlin was a great choice.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously everyone stated her. She lives in New York now,
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  Speaker 3: so it was great.
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  Speaker 4: It's true I dated Caitlin. I guess yes you did.
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  Speaker 4: Jared's dated Kaitlyn. Yeah, that's good. At the same time, actually, see.
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  Speaker 3: We are we are more problematic than we think.
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  Speaker 2: We definitely are. Okay, let's let's break this episode down.
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  Speaker 2: There's a few points that really stand out. The episode
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  Speaker 2: opens up where the previous one left off. The women
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  Speaker 2: are going to Boston to see Rosie's husband Rich per
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  Speaker 2: form as Frank Sinatra. A little side note here is
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  Speaker 2: somehow Rich got the daytime gig because it is so
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  Speaker 2: bright outside, so it's not even night.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even clock that. That's awful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like the daytime Frank Sinatra. He's rich, a
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  Speaker 2: good singer.
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  Speaker 3: He seems like I he seems like he can pull
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  Speaker 3: off Sinatra, but like, there's not a lot of range there.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's an entertainer, not a singer.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I was listening to. I mean some of his
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  Speaker 2: songs got better as the night went on. I think
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  Speaker 2: that probably some lubrication. His first song, when they really
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  Speaker 2: highlighted him, I was like, ooh, that's a pitchy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a little pitchy, a little tough to hear.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted him to be great, and I do think
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  Speaker 2: he got better as a night continued. However, he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: the focus Lauren, by any means. We pick up with
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  Speaker 2: the car ride again, as we talked about last week. Alicia, Liz,
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  Speaker 2: and Joel and are in a car driving to Boston
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  Speaker 2: for this.
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  Speaker 4: Show and all hell breaks loose.
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  Speaker 2: They can't like, there's no conversation except for yelling and screaming.
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  Speaker 2: We then kind of pick it up again while the
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  Speaker 2: show is going on. Lauren, This argument, I think gets
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  Speaker 2: confusing to me. On why it existing, which typically is
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  Speaker 2: how arguments happened in my life. And I'm in an argument,
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  Speaker 2: oftentimes I look back, I'm like, how did that actually start?
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things said, Yeah, but what was
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  Speaker 2: exactly the root cause? Am I wrong in thinking that
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  Speaker 2: the root cause was the kind of Liz checking Alicia
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  Speaker 2: still on, hey you weren't actually without a home?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think that it was Liz being like, again, just
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  Speaker 3: you're never homeless. And then what escalated it, which wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: escalate it for me, but I guess it does for Liz.
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  Speaker 3: Is Joe Allen trying to play mediator that really pissed
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  Speaker 3: Liz off. And then Liz just kept going and going
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  Speaker 3: and going and not helping the situation. And I think
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  Speaker 3: Alicia just got like emotional, like sometimes when you start crying,
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  Speaker 3: you just can't stop crying, and then that made it
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  Speaker 3: awkward for everyone.
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  Speaker 4: Are you a crier? I think I've asked you this.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm not a crier.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Joellen's playing both sides, and I think to break
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  Speaker 2: this down properly because there's a lot of things being said,
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  Speaker 2: none of it really is I think we're sticking and
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  Speaker 2: sticking on because it's just kind of the same thing
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  Speaker 2: over and over.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think to.
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  Speaker 2: Break this down, Lauren, if you're okay with it, we
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  Speaker 2: need to talk about each side's perspectives. Yeah, let's start
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  Speaker 2: with Joellen. She's in the middle of this. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it would be wrong to say Joellen definitely does
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  Speaker 2: like to engage in whatever thing is happening at the time. However,
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  Speaker 2: to her credit, and then I won't give her credit
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  Speaker 2: through this whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: She was kind of stuck in this to have to
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  Speaker 4: get engaged like she was.
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  Speaker 2: It's a car ride with the three of them, Like
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  Speaker 2: she had to say something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she had to say something. But then if you
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  Speaker 3: put anyone else in that scenario, I think they would
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  Speaker 3: have just sat back maybe and like let them have it.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that Joellen saw that Alicia was super upset,
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  Speaker 3: and she's such like a I wouldn't say a sensitive person,
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  Speaker 3: but like a sympathetic character that you kind of want
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  Speaker 3: to stick up for her, especially when like scary Liz
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  Speaker 3: is there. So I feel like she had to defend her.
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  Speaker 3: But Liz is looking at this, like, Joellen, the night before,
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  Speaker 3: you were saying the same thing as me. We were
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  Speaker 3: at dinner with all of our husbands, and you literally said,
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  Speaker 3: homeless is not the same as whatever. She's like, so
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  Speaker 3: why can't you just say that, say exactly that so
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  Speaker 3: that I don't look like an idiot here. But then
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  Speaker 3: she wasn't saying that, and she's tried to play the
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  Speaker 3: calm mediator and that's what set off Liz. And then
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  Speaker 3: a look like Alicia is just like demoralized. She's like,
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  Speaker 3: I said this one tiny thing that I felt really
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  Speaker 3: emotional about and everyone just like yelling at me for
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  Speaker 3: And then we go later on we see her mom
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  Speaker 3: say that she feels offended and disrespected about Liz, just
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  Speaker 3: like we thought she would be, because she's telling her
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  Speaker 3: how her life was. So it's like really messy. I
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  Speaker 3: think that if I were in that situation, I would
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  Speaker 3: try to be a mediator like Joellen. But then once
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  Speaker 3: I realized nothing was working, I'm like, okay, guys, let's
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  Speaker 3: just be quiet, like simmered down.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Are we getting a taste during this of the frustration
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  Speaker 2: with Joellen already? I mean, I think if it was
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  Speaker 2: anybody else, if it was Ashley sitting in Joel and
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  Speaker 2: see and Ashley handles it the same way. I do
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  Speaker 2: think the voice of Ashley carries a little more weight
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  Speaker 2: because it feels like Liz has had it with Joellen
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  Speaker 2: up to this point, and this was a breaking point.
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  Speaker 2: This wasn't exactly like Liz was now to upset with
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  Speaker 2: Joelle necessarily over this incident. It was more, Hey, there's
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  Speaker 2: been a lot of things leading up to this. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think you're authentic, is what Liz tells Joellen. So
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  Speaker 2: I threw it back to you, Lauren, as a watcher,
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  Speaker 2: Is Joellen authentic?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's such a loaded question. For some reason, I
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  Speaker 3: feel I feel like a kindred spirit with Joellen, just
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  Speaker 3: because honestly, like I'm a talker, Like I really enjoy it,
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  Speaker 3: and I think and she obviously is too, and she
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  Speaker 3: wants to like kind of have her hand in everything
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  Speaker 3: just so she can like have something to talk about,
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  Speaker 3: have something that's dramatic, and like talk with her friends
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  Speaker 3: and play both sides. I don't think she's a bad person.
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  Speaker 3: I think she just like takes a lot of joy
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  Speaker 3: in the drama.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think she's necessly doing anything malicious to everyone,
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  Speaker 3: But people don't like that she doesn't have loyalty to sides.
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  Speaker 4: Laura, I absolutely love you. I do.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're the best. Like that, you just admit
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  Speaker 2: that I'm a talker. So as a talker, is there
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  Speaker 2: ever a point, Lauren where it backfires on you?
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  Speaker 1: Though?
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  Speaker 2: Do you ever find yourself going, oh no, I got
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  Speaker 2: too deep in this one.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, when you get two people in
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  Speaker 3: the same car that you were signing, you both are
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  Speaker 3: signing clip, that will get you in trouble. But then
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  Speaker 3: you do see you see both sides in the situation,
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  Speaker 3: Like you can say this, I said this because I
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  Speaker 3: think this, and this this, but you can't contradict yourself.
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  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think she was contradicting yourself. But the
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  Speaker 3: crux of this is that Joellen, I guess she says
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  Speaker 3: like really mean things behind people's back. And Liz knows
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  Speaker 3: that side of Joellen. So seeing Joellen be this kind
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  Speaker 3: soft mediator is like shut up, you know, be yourself,
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  Speaker 3: and that that's really what it is. She's getting pissed
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  Speaker 3: because she's like the Joelle and I know is an
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  Speaker 3: apple but like my friend an appole, and she just
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  Speaker 3: doesn't recognize this other Joellen and she's like just be
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  Speaker 3: authentically yourself, which is an apple Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a great point when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: scenarios like this, you have to pick your side, but
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  Speaker 2: there is still authenticity in the pursuit. Yeah, so what
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  Speaker 2: Liz was saying, I guess we'll pause here and say,
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  Speaker 2: were you on Liz's side in this?
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  Speaker 3: Then? No? Because it went too far. I think it
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  Speaker 3: just went a little too far. I was kind of
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  Speaker 3: on Liz's side because, as I said the previous episode,
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  Speaker 3: like she was just trying to like save Alesha from
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  Speaker 3: looking stupid, but then it got too far. She should
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  Speaker 3: have been like, you know what, like you can look stupid,
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  Speaker 3: you can say that. I just I wouldn't bring up
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  Speaker 3: the wholeless thing again, I really wouldn't have. I just
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  Speaker 3: felt bad for Alicia because her tears really sad. I
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  Speaker 3: feel sad for Joellen because Liz went off the rails.
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  Speaker 3: As we see at when they get actually inside, she
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  Speaker 3: literally does pull her hair and pushes her away and
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  Speaker 3: says some scary stuff, and her passive aggressive smiles are terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: I have this as a note, like there's a look
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  Speaker 2: that Liz gives that makes me go.
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  Speaker 3: Like, you there's something wrong in there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she has the crazy eyes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like the woman's smiling over your bed before she
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  Speaker 3: stabs you, Like it is a weird, weird smile. That
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  Speaker 3: is like a very very frustrating because like, you don't
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  Speaker 3: have to smile if you're mad at me.
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  Speaker 2: And honestly, it just kind of freaks me out when
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  Speaker 2: you do.
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  Speaker 3: It's really scary.
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  Speaker 2: It's very scary, Like it really throws me off. And
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  Speaker 2: it also I think it would honestly like make me
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  Speaker 2: upset because if I'm feeling a certain way Sam Alisia
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  Speaker 2: or even Joe Ellen, let's give Joellen the benefit of
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  Speaker 2: the down and say, hey, she actually really thought Liz
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  Speaker 2: was one of her best friends. She's realizing Liz doesn't
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  Speaker 2: really like her at all. It's hurting her inside. She's panicking.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have somebody looking across from me just
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  Speaker 2: giving that like smile like I really don't care, Like
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  Speaker 2: that hurts deeply. Yeah, it's worse than words. You can
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  Speaker 2: say a lot of things to me. It's the apathetic
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  Speaker 2: smile of I'm looking right through you that freaks me
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  Speaker 2: out because I don't see empathy.
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  Speaker 4: In that smile.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, you said it very well. I like
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  Speaker 3: can't express how frustrated I would be internally seeing someone
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  Speaker 3: that I'm like I really care about I'm in a
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  Speaker 3: fight with and they're laughing and they're smiling, and it's
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  Speaker 3: like it's psychotic, And I feel bad because I know
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  Speaker 3: Liz is very affected by this the rest of the season,
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  Speaker 3: because she kind of looks kind of crazy for the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the season and she's not feeling great about it.
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  Speaker 3: But it is an odd way to fight with someone,
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  Speaker 3: And I wonder how she fights with her husband.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, because that's actually a great point. If
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  Speaker 2: my wife and I were in an argument and she
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  Speaker 2: looks at me with that smile like you don't care,
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  Speaker 2: I know it, Like you could care less of what
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about right now. You can care less of
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  Speaker 2: what I'm trying to tell you, what you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: tell me. You just want to be right here, which
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: is a very bad place to get in a relationship. Yeah,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: but we learned through this.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Really.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: The third character is Alisha, obviously, who kind of is
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the one that brings us up. We see Alicia later
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: on the episode with her family after her daughter's kind
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: of dance recital and where she wins what did you
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: learn during this sit down that brings light to the
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: conversation with Liz and Joelleen.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: It seems like Liz may have gotten it wrong with
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: the homelessness conversation because she Alicia says, like, Mom, I
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: said that, like she's word in different mind. She was
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: like that we were left homeless. She said that to
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: her mom, left homeless is different than we were homeless.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like we were left without
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: a home. First, we were homeless. But her mom was like,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I take great offense to that, and I am offended
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: that Liz, someone who's been in our life for so long,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: would even put like those words out there, that like
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: we were never homeless and it wasn't a hard time
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: for us. And then they start saying, what did she say?
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: That that Liz was abusive to Alicia? And I guess
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: that would be a form of abuse, just like telling
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: you how like your life was and kind of manipulating
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: your reality.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I wonder if Liz, if like Alicia and her mom
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: maybe like an aunt were sitting there and they said no, Liz,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: like we really were without a home. Yeah, I wonder
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: if Liz would respond with, hey, I was wrong.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I think she would you do. I think she would
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: say like, look, I didn't know that. I'm sorry. I
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: was just trying to look out for Alicia. I wasn't
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: aware of the situation. It seems like she can be
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: even though she is scary and laughs and smiled and
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: she's an argument. I do feel like she's someone who
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: can admit when she's wrong. But I would love to
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: see Liz and the ants and the mom get together,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: because those ants are strong. Alicia seems like someone that
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: you know, you could kind of push over, but those
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: ladies you cannot push over.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think they're like they're the security
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: guards that need to come in and protect Alicia. Alicia's
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: very soft, not in like that's I don't mean that name.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: She just like feels very easily hurt. And she also
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: does not speak highly of herself. Like they said you
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: have the perfect life, and she said, no.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not married. I'm like, doesn't matter. A lot of
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: people aren't married and they have a great life. Also,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: the ants were insinuating that Liz is off her rocker
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: because she's like smoking the weed that she creates, and
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: you could tell Alicia was like, I need to defend
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: this right now because I'm also scared of Liz and
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I need to say she doesn't do it. To do it,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: she says it's a it's a holy something I don't remember,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: she says, a sacred plant, so she won't do it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: So that was just another demonstration of her trying not
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: to get on Liz's bad side, even though she's pissed
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: at Liz.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Was were the ladies like hammered during this argument?
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: You think I think everyone's hammered during all these arguments. Yeah, yeah,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: they had a couple.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the like facial expressions coming out, especially
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: with Liz it's like you're not there right now?
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Oh gone gone? And Joe Allen words were slurring. The
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: cigarette break also a very drunk thing to do.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Ye Like, I don't I don't think.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know they're smoking habits, but I
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: know my buddies if we're out, like watching a game
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: at the bar, like it's more common for them to
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: go on a smoke break than it would be any
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: other day of their life.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: And John's like, oh, where's the mine? And She's like,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I'll just share with you out I'm like, that's the
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: drunkest statement I've ever heard of my life.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: There's a lot here, Lauren.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I do think it is kind of bringing to a
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: lot of the ways things that Liz has felt about Joellen,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: not necessarily Alicia. I still think this got a little
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: out of control. I do think Liz came at it
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: initially as a form of protection for Alicia, and then
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: it's continued on and now evolved into what we see today.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: But Bravo, in all their glory, does one of the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: flashbacks of Joellen when Liz brings up that she always
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: is taking both sides, but she loves to kind of
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: poke the bear, loves to, you know, make things happen
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and be around them. So they do this flashback, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: it did bring some things out that I weren't wasn't
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: piecing together. But yes, Joellen has historically, at least during
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: this show, love to kind of poking product things.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I can't blame.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Her for it, because blame her we you know, my
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: co host here is admitting like that, you know, there's
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a there's an enjoyment in that, yeah, you know, And
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think Joelan's.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Doing it to make everybody hate each other, right.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just fun conversation topics. I think
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: it's just being a woman, like anyone in any friend
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: group around the world does the exact same thing. But
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I don't think it ends in explosive fights like that.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: It may end in like maybe a passive aggressive text, sure,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: but nothing like explosive. We all do the same thing.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I think more people like joelan than they'd like to admit.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: But it's not all caught on camera and then played
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: back to us.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one thing. Oh yeah, I wanted to
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: just mention that I don't know why I haven't asked
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: ashle yet. I meant to call her before this, but
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: they flashed the table I think right after Joel and
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: like leaves and Ashley's crying with Liz. Why is she crying?
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: We never know.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: We never know. Ashley is just like, let me just
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: jump on the crying train.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, this whole time, we just see Ashley's facial expressions, yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: kind of her like shock.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: And awe, it's awkward.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: We see.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite lines from the show is Rosie going, Hey,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just glad it's not me.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Exactly, and I think she's right.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: In fact, Kelsey and Rosie come out of this episode
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: looking very great. This is a good episode for the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: two of them. They really didn't see each other, which
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I think was helpful.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: It was great. And then that flash forward to Kelsey
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: and Joel and painting. Kelsey played it right, I guess
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: for someone who doesn't want to get in trouble, and
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: she was like, I would probably like just be there
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and listen and like not take sides.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, yeah, it's kind of maybe the two of
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: them have enough going on that they're like, I really
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: don't want to fight with everybody here. Yeah, Kelsey's still
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: owning the slam pig narrative. She has now fully adopted that,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: and she continues to express it, not only with what
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: do you call the things that go across your chest
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: a sash?
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: A sash? And also her painting.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Throughout this episode, then we do see the breakdown of
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: this argument happening outside of each other. We see Liz
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: with Dolores and Kelsey explaining what's happening. They're obviously just
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: a friend group kind of chattering back and forth, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: in that moment, I think Kelsey has asked what she
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: would do.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: If she was in the car, and.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: She said, I think I would probably and somewhat do
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: what Joellen did. I would try to calm the storm.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: You know. I want to know, Lauren, what do you
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: think the driver of this car was doing?
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, having the time of their life. I
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: don't know. I would think it's fun, but I'm sure
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of people would just be like, I cannot focus,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, but go I just really think outside
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: the car with all the other girls at the at Capo,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I think is what it's called. It just got so
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: crazy physical and so like I'm gonna beat this out
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: of you, like all this crazy stuff. I can't believe
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: it escalated that that much. And that's when the mediator.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: There was no the media, it was just a mediator
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: and Liz like it wasn't even about Alicia. It's I
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: don't know, I'm much just amazed how it went from
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: an Alicia Liz argument to a Joellen loves argument. And
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Dolores kind of was like throwing shade when they were
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: all talking together about Joellen. I don't know, She's she
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: couldn't take it. She just like does she just doesn't
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: want joel On to be fake. That's basically the crux
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: of this all is like she just wants her to
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: be the bitch that she is. Even if it wasn't
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: on Liz's side, I think she'd be fine as long
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: as she was being authentically mean.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think That's the word that stands out
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: through this episode is they they're not upset with Joellen
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: for figuring out the stuff with Rula. They're not upset
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: with Joellen really for the things that she said. They
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: just want her to be authentic and if she's going
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to be involved in these arguments and she's going to
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: bring up these topics, they want her to kind of
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: own it because you can't have both in this world.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: You can't be both a prouder and the one that says,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just want to bring peace to these scenarios.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Ashley said that the reason that this was such a
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: huge blowout was because Liz has so much dirt on
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Joellen being such a bad person that she thought it
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: like she was laughing because it was such a ridiculous
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: thing to see someone being this understanding of both sides
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: because she's seen the like like the darkest side of
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: this woman.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Ah, that would make sense on why you would be
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: laughing then being like you don't want me to go
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: there like you.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: That's what it is. She's like laughing to keep in
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: this like huge secret that she has.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Interesting Will that come out? Do you think in any
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: part of the season.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think in this season. Maybe next season.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this this seems to be a battle
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: that that's not going to be healed. Obviously, to close
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: this argument on this episode.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: We do see Liz.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And Joel and sit down and we see them have
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: a conversation. I think with the pretext is this is
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to amends the argument or to bring clarity to the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: argument before. But it's quickly proven that this was not
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: why they were sitting down. They were sitting down to
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: still hash this thing out. And at this point is
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: when Joelle and I think, really realizes that Liz doesn't
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: like her.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that Jolan's very used to getting into
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: arguments with people and then being extremely charming and then
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: putting them back over very quickly. So she thought they
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: were gonna sit down, have a drink, hash it out,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: and then she was shocked when it didn't go her
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: way because she was trying to make like cutees, like
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: comments like it's cold and like my nipples are hard
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: and like, and then it didn't she Liz was not
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: taking the bait, and it was like, Oh, this woman
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: hates me. This is crazy. This doesn't usually go my way.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Where does this go? Lauren?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, we now have two main characters in this show. Yeah,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and it always has felt and I could be wrong,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: but it's always felt like Liz is the leader of
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: this pack in some way or another. She's the She
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: might not be the character that shown the most, but
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: it does feel like she is the leader of the pack.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: So how Liz goes the rest go I think she
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: has that power over the group. Do you agree or
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: disagree with that?
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I do agree. I think she's like the matriarch. She's
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: probably like the most like successful, like most og Rhode Island.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Obviously speaks her mind. She doesn't really pick sides, So
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I think everyone wants to be like by Liz, Ashley
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: really wants to be like Bils too.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Is that out of fear?
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: I think it could be fear and also just like again,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: this word is the theme of the episode, is that
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Liz seems to be pretty authentic. So it's nice to
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: be liked by an authentic person because you know, genuinely
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: they like you, rather than like a fake person liking
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: it like you don't know.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: That's a good point.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: That's maybe why, like I don't love arguing, I don't
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: get in arguments very often. But it also, I think,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: is why maybe in my own life people wonder like
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: does he like me or not?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: That's so valid.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, what makes sense because Liz does have that. I
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: watched this and I said, hey, Liz was wrong. I
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: think through through all of this episode, how she handled it,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: how she didn't quickly resolve the conflict, how she felt
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: like it can like she allowed it to continue to.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Erupt.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: However, talking to You has brought some background to why
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: maybe it continued to become a big deal in her
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: mind and why there was things left unsaid that she
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: could have said that she didn't feel like it was
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: appropriate to say yeah.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Because if we go back to the meeting with Rula,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: what they had lunch Liz and Rula, Rula alludes to
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: that Joellen it isn't loyal to her husband, and maybe
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: that's what Liz has over her.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: That'd be a big deal irony in its best right.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I know, I know. I don't know if it's true
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: or not. I really don't.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: It's alleged, yeah, from Rula's mouth. We watched it on TV,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: so it's not us saying it's Rula saying it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked. Though this whole season has
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: felt like a big web of intermingling amongst spouses and others.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: The one cup that it doesn't seem to be existing
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: with is Ashley and Jared, and we get to see
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: them at Audrey's for a sneak peek into the evolution
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: of Audrey's coffee shop. There is a storyline that has
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: floated throughout the season where Audrey's is not bringing in
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: enough money in Ashley's mind, to make it worth the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: pursuit of Jared and the time that Jared.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Spends on it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know from watching these episodes if Jared would agree.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I think he would love to see it become more
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: successful and bringing more money for the family, but I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: don't know if he agrees that it's not worth the pursuit. However,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: that is a storyline that's being communicated here Lauren, it
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: would probably be best for you to give it clarity
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: on what exactly is happening behind the scenes and what
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: exactly they're trying to do.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's necessarily like about the money. It's
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: more about how much time it takes to run Audrey's
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and how much it takes away from them being able
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: to do anything else. But it's also like a classic
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: tale of owning a restaurant, you need a good manager
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: to be able to do anything on your own and
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: have and rely on them and have them think of
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: their business, think of it as their own business just
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: as much as yours. So I think if he had
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: like better management and people he could rely on to
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: run it, then it would be worthwhile. Because it's it's
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: a dream of Jared's. It's doing well. It's not like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: you know, it's not a dumpster fire. It's fun. Everyone
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: loves it. It's doing even better now. I think it's
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: more about like having someone help run it, you know.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, more time. I mean, Jared grinds on this thing,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: and that is true. It's also part of Jared's personality,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: so somewhat of it is to his own making right.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: He loves working like with his hands and like running
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: around and having his body hurt at the end of
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: the day. He thinks, if your body hurts at the
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: end of the day, then you did the work.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's good, old soul. I liked that. I like
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Jared for that.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: And then Rosie and Rich's beach day. It kind of
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: fell out of place during this episode outside of everything
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: else that was happening. Two scenes that came about, where
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Rosie and Rich's beach day and then Kelsey and Bill's
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: work out, it felt like, Hey, we haven't got enough
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: of these people during this episode. Let's find a way
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: to bring them in. Rosie and Rich's beach day is
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: really only a thing because the family is asking when
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: kids could be a part of the equation.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not much to dissect there. Really, we
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: love you, Rosie. If you want to have kids, have kids.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I did not realize Rich was so much older though,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: That's what I.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Learned about this forty three Right.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Forty three, and when she's thirty four, thirty five.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't feel I mean, my wife and I
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: are what seven years apart, and it doesn't feel weird.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Is that weird?
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's weird. I just think like, oh,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: he's forty three, he should probably have kids now.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a topic that we had. You know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I'm thirty seven now she's thirty.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: And it was like, hey, that's a gorgeous separation of age, though,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: I think it's wonderful. Yeah, she's gonna look good for so.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Long, so she's always gonna look good.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: She's always gonna look good. Yeah. Sure, skin's nice, she
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: smells good. Good, let's keep going.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Final thing is Kelsey and Bill they get to work
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: out together. We get a nice close up of Kelsey's
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: butt during this and Bill saying it looks good from behind.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Good for her, she's keeping it, keeping it together. This
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: is an interesting conversation though, because there's a lot of
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: honey's right, it was honey.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Getting thrown around? Was that the word Bill was using?
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I think so a lot. Yeah, lots of sweet nothings,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: except for when he was like he put his foot
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: down with get rid of your freaking car. I'm not
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: dealing with this anymore. And I was watching with Hunter
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: and he was.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Like you tell him, yeah, like he loves.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: When a man like sticks up for himself.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Well, do you think she's going to go through with it.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she'll lose Bill. I think if she doesn't.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I think Bill is locked in.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he didn't have sex for a year. He
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: still waited.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Bill was around still.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: It seems like when she was living with another dude
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: and would just like show up when on call, when she.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Asked, oh poor Bill. Yeah, maybe she's gonna get her
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: of the car. Yeah, I guess so. I guess so.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: But they weren't having sex. He just loves her so much.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: He just loves her so much. It was she's fun to.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Look at, so fun to look at. We'll give her that.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Kelsey says that she had a brain tumor. What do
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: you think about that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised we didn't like lead with this. Yes, I
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: knew about it before, but then I forgot about it,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: and then I remembered after this, and I was like,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: this is this is crazy. At the round table with
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: the mass at dinner and they're all talking about like
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: their trauma. I would think that you got in a
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: car accident. I found out you had a brow tumor,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: it would be number one. Not that you had an
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: older man paying for your things for ten years, right.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: One you would think you think it's a big deal. Yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: it's a huge deal. But the good side of this
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: is she increased her health insurance.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: It seems like.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: It's all making more sense. We need really good health insurance.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Well, you need more health insurance, and you need somebody
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: helping pay for that because it's not inexpensive, Like, no,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: you have to have a job.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or you pay like literally one thousand dollars a
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: month at least if you have this this tumor situation.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I think we get rid of the car and then
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: we just keep the health insurance from Sugar Daddy.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: It seems like a fair trade. It does to me.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I think you're logically thinking through this is Hey Bill,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: let's you know, sell the car, but let's not pay
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: for the health insurance. Let's keep that going. That's one
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: more or less bill that we have to consider and
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: pay for.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: To Bill's credit, I definitely think he's batting above his
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: average here with Kelsey.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Great, physique, great, he's a strong man. He obviously works out.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I can see where he got wrapped into this. The
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: question now, is is this a good relationship for Bill?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: She was testing to see if he was loyal. I
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: would be interested for Bill to test if Kelsey is loyal.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I am so interested to see next season. I am
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: gonna feel bad for Bill if it doesn't work out,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: because I'm sure she has some crazy guys in her
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: DMS right now.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like she's not going to be a
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: popular person for others to pursue that. Actually, that's that's
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: a great storyline to follow. We have a good story.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, it's gonna be interesting. I don't know
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: anything right now, but I couldn't imagine this type of
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: girl getting a DM from like Tom Brady and saying, no,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: thank you, Tom Brady. I have Bill.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I like strong Bill. He's a nice guy.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so we get the preview for the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: rest of the season has actually always I mean, I
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: feel like she always narrates that coming up on.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think she's just really good at it,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: and she's like more seasoned than the others, so they're like,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: let's just have her do it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: And she does talk on the almost famous podcast for
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: a Living Rate and Review wherever you listen to podcast.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Joellen feels like she is owed an apology I don't
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: think she's gonna get it. Kelsey asks Liz if Liz
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: feels like she's ever been wrong on something, and Liz
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: says no, never mind.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: And then there's an Arabian.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Night party that Ashley decides to wear a leather jacket to,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: and Rosie asked Rula if she knows about the video
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: and if she wants to know what's in the video?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Rosie that part, what are you doing? Why are you
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: stepping in on this?
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Rosie has got to have that liquid courage going on.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's just Rosie has skayed through. It
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: looked like this episode without controversy. I don't know if
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: she would be the one I would choose, or if
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I was Rosie, if I would say yes to be
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the one to bring it up to Rula.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess I think La and Rosie I think
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: have gotten much closer over the season, So maybe now
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: she feels like it's okay to bring up to her
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: as a good friend.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, that makes sense.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I did get a chuckle as his conversation's happening.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: They do do a little blip of Brian dancing with
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the dancer.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: It was perfect timing.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was so good. It was it was well done.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I got a good laugh at.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: It, Like, oh, he found the woman just wearing a
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: belly Nancy with like fire around her neck. Yeah, of
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: course that's sure.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: He's at Yeah, yeah, he's into it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Hey, this is another crazy episode of the Real Housewives
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: of Rhode Island. The success that continues to be a
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: success for all that watch everything, and everybody I talk
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: to that listens to almost famous podcast and knows that
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Ashley is a part of it continues to come up
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: to me and say, Hey, they've watched season after season
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: after season and Rhode Island is the best one they've
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: ever seen.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with that. I'm so glad.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good. I'm glad this is the one that
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: we entered into. Lauren.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: If not have been really awkward to just sit here
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: and talk about how boring the episodes are. But there's
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: been nothing boring yet, and there'll be nothing boring to come.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: We'll be back next week breaking down another episode of
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Lord anything we didn't
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: cover that you think we should have?
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think I'm just still shocked
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: by like the physical fight that Liz and Joel and
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: got in. I know it wasn't that physical, but it
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: was kind of weird for two grown women. And that's
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: all I have to say.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Have you ever been in a fight?
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Once? A girl punched me, but I deserved it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: That's so good. Hey, we'll be back next week. Until
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: next time, I've been been, I've been Lauren. We'll talk
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: to you soon, y'all.
• 41:21
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