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The Late Debate | 21 January · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately. Welcome the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thanks for joining us on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand coming
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  Speaker 3: up tonight. Not everything went according to planet. Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 3: inauguration will show you what went wrong, plus the African
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  Speaker 3: American preacher who almost stole the show. And then when
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  Speaker 3: we look at what's making news tomorrow, the Queensland LNP
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  Speaker 3: were elected to get tough on crime but already are
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  Speaker 3: being criticized for not being tough enough, and police reveal
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  Speaker 3: they're investigating the possibility that foreign actors have been paying
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  Speaker 3: for anti Semitic attacks here in Australia. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: all of that a bit later, but of course the
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  Speaker 3: big news today is that Donald Trump is President of
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  Speaker 3: the United States all over again. The forty fifth president
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  Speaker 3: of the United States is now also the forty seventh president,
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  Speaker 3: making him ownly the second person to be president twice,
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  Speaker 3: but with a gap in between presidencies. We'll show you
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  Speaker 3: some of the highlights of his inauguration speech in just
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  Speaker 3: a moment, but before we get into that, listen, Joe,
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  Speaker 3: I want to ask you just your overall impressions of
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  Speaker 3: what transpired today, Liz.
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  Speaker 4: Can I just say massive lack of jubilance with this opener?
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  Speaker 5: Mac, I mean he said it was Oli the greagda was.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is the best day. We are saved,
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  Speaker 4: essentially literally, we have a commander in chief, a commander
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  Speaker 4: in chief of the free world who can actually walk
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  Speaker 4: all by himself, and he doesn't trip, and he does stairs,
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  Speaker 4: and he has already thrown out eighty pieces of trash
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  Speaker 4: from the Biden administration. We'll show you clips of that
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  Speaker 4: coming up. This is a turning point in the Western world,
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  Speaker 4: as it was back in twenty sixteen, when, to the
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  Speaker 4: shock and horror of a lot of people, this guy
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  Speaker 4: first darkened the doors of.
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  Speaker 5: The White House.
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  Speaker 4: And this second time is going to be a heck
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  Speaker 4: of a lot more leaf Why because this time the.
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  Speaker 5: Guy knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 4: He's not rocking up being like how do I fill
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  Speaker 4: ten thousand bums in seats, which you've got to do
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  Speaker 4: when you become president like that, which was what Project
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty five was all about.
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  Speaker 5: But of course not, No, we had to distance himself
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  Speaker 5: from that.
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  Speaker 4: This is going to be a life changing, game changing
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  Speaker 4: four years now. I'm prepared to be disappointed on a
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  Speaker 4: few accounts.
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  Speaker 5: I talking about government.
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  Speaker 4: I know what I'm in for, but those promises that
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  Speaker 4: were broken last time he was in again. This is
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  Speaker 4: a very different Trump term. He is different as a person.
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  Speaker 4: But secondly, he's ready this time. He's not the new
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  Speaker 4: kid on the block. He's got friends in positions of power,
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  Speaker 4: and he means business. I cannot wait for the next
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  Speaker 4: four years. It is going to be completely and utterly Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Do you share this as exuberance?
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  Speaker 6: To paraphrase Captain America in the Avengers, there's only one
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  Speaker 6: messiah man, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think. I don't think Trump is not.
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  Speaker 4: Believe I ever made, and I never would make it.
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  Speaker 1: It's out of a lot like it, out of a
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  Speaker 1: lot like it. I don't think.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think Trump is going to save the world
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  Speaker 6: or fix everything, but I don't think it'll be very interesting.
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  Speaker 6: I do think he has the courage or the cojones
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  Speaker 6: to do things that other administrations have always said can't
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  Speaker 6: or shouldn't be done.
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  Speaker 5: This is what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I think the reason Let's see, I mean, I'm all,
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  Speaker 1: I'm all you know. I'm waiting. I've got the popcorn.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready to go.
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  Speaker 6: But I think the Hamas cease fire for better or worse.
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  Speaker 6: I think that was very much a result of Donald
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  Speaker 6: Trump setting that deadline with that sort of sort of damocles.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to blow you all the kingdom. Come if
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  Speaker 1: you this isn't sorted by mine.
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  Speaker 5: This isn't changing the world according to you.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, I think I think it is. I think
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  Speaker 1: it is good.
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  Speaker 6: But whether or not that ceasefire last, and whether or
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  Speaker 6: not we've just released almost two thousand terrorists for the
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  Speaker 6: sake of thirty three innocent, wonderful, poor, long suffering people.
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  Speaker 6: But again, it's going to be a pretty interesting scenario.
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  Speaker 6: I think the same with Hesbela and Iran. I think
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  Speaker 6: they're both playing nice because they're scared of Trump. It
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  Speaker 6: looks like Zelenski and Putin will probably come to the
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  Speaker 6: table as well. But you know, some of the other stuff,
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  Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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  Speaker 6: One thing that I that really struck.
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  Speaker 4: You're just talking about foreign policy. I'm talking about America itself.
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  Speaker 4: The calls that he is already made by these executives.
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  Speaker 4: We live a very day that he was sworn in.
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  Speaker 1: But it's American foreign policy.
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  Speaker 4: Saying America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold.
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  Speaker 5: And here in Australia, especially when.
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  Speaker 4: That guy is in the White House, people catch the
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  Speaker 4: big dog energy. We saw it even in Morrison to
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  Speaker 4: an extent, and good grief, if any guy can get
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  Speaker 4: a whiff of big dog energy and were a miracle.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't believe that even Morrison was subjected to this,
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  Speaker 4: and it seemed to have a small effect even on
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  Speaker 4: someone like him.
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  Speaker 5: We saw this in the UK.
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  Speaker 4: There was such an emboldening and this is on the
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  Speaker 4: back of already and emboldening.
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  Speaker 5: That we're seeing across the Western world in.
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  Speaker 4: Europe as these conservative, far more conservative, right leaning governments
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  Speaker 4: come to power.
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  Speaker 5: Now we have the lynchpin of the free world. Look
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  Speaker 5: certainly estimating certain.
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  Speaker 6: Again, he started to sound sort of a bit crazy.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to be all perfect. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think all the problems will be fixed, Joe, but
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  Speaker 6: I think that there.
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  Speaker 4: Is a momentum and it is this is glorious.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think what is what is good is obviously
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  Speaker 6: that he is he has you know, that the death
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  Speaker 6: of work is good. That is fantastic. The fact that
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  Speaker 6: identity politics is dead in the water, it is fantastic.
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  Speaker 6: It'll be interesting to see how is there are only
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  Speaker 6: two genders things works, because that is going to create some.
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  Speaker 1: Just technical difficulties. Yeah, sure sure.
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  Speaker 6: And then the other big thing is Orcus, of course,
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  Speaker 6: so we want to make sure that the US is
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  Speaker 6: still all in on Orcus. Trump has always been a
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  Speaker 6: sort of America first, American exceptionalist kind of guy, and
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  Speaker 6: that is totally fine for Americans and America, but Australia
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  Speaker 6: needs American protection.
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  Speaker 2: Liz is over the moon.
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  Speaker 3: This is the greatest moment in our lifetimes. Joe is
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  Speaker 3: sitting on the fence, wait and see.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm sitting in the row waiting for the
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  Speaker 1: show to start.
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  Speaker 4: Play down the fact that this is a jolly significant,
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  Speaker 4: very jubilee.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have a look at some of what Trump said
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  Speaker 3: in his inauguration speech. Of course, Trump's presidency really is
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  Speaker 3: a miracle. It's a miracle he was elected when you
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  Speaker 3: consider where he was just two years ago. It's a
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  Speaker 3: miracle he lived to be elected. When you consider a
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  Speaker 3: bullet came within a millimeter of taking off his head.
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  Speaker 2: To point the Trump reference during his speech.
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  Speaker 7: Today, just a few months ago in a beautiful Pennsylvania
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  Speaker 7: field and assassin's bullet ripped through my ear. But I
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  Speaker 7: felt then, and believe even more so now, that my
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  Speaker 7: life was saved for a reason. I was saved by
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  Speaker 7: God to make America great again?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Is this?
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  Speaker 2: And you were sneer when he said that, but I
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  Speaker 2: know laughing it.
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  Speaker 6: Is, I promise you Trump is making a gag with No,
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  Speaker 6: he is not.
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  Speaker 3: Trump actually believes that God saved his life. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't know anyone who could believe that the bullet came
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  Speaker 3: within a millimeter of taking off his head and that
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  Speaker 3: wasn't an act of divine protection. Anyone who's religious would
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  Speaker 3: certainly believe that, which brings me to another thought. He
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  Speaker 3: mentioned God a couple of times in his speech today.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like God is back in fashion when you
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  Speaker 3: consider the Democrats in their twenty twenty four policy platform
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  Speaker 3: did not mention God at all. In twenty nineteen, the
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  Speaker 3: Democrat National Committee said that their largest constituency is people
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  Speaker 3: without any religious affiliation.
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  Speaker 2: And do you remember Joe Biden a couple.
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  Speaker 3: Of years ago, when he talked about how we're all
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  Speaker 3: created equal by the thing, even for himself, the Supreme
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  Speaker 3: Baard in the Declaration of Independence. But Trump references the
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  Speaker 3: fact that not only does he believe he was saved
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  Speaker 3: by God to do what he's called to do, which
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  Speaker 3: means he is a man on a mission and not
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  Speaker 3: mucking around. But later on in the speech, he also
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  Speaker 3: talked about the fact that we will not forget we
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  Speaker 3: are a nation under God. All of a sudden, the
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  Speaker 3: God word is being used in popular culture all over again.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I take Joe's point, which I think this is
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  Speaker 4: your point, that obviously Trump knows his audience as every
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  Speaker 4: politician does, and only the Good Lord himself knows how
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  Speaker 4: sincere Trump's belief in him, Trump's faith in him between.
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  Speaker 5: Him and is God. All I know is Gosh.
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  Speaker 4: It galvanizes the face not included. I can't even vote
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  Speaker 4: for the guy, so obviously I didn't, but that he
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  Speaker 4: certainly carries it beautifully. And this is what the backbone
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  Speaker 4: of America wants to hear. It's not just the Bible Belt,
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  Speaker 4: it's people who have been feel unheard, people who feel
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  Speaker 4: like their country has been trashed over the last four years,
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  Speaker 4: and even those who aren't, you know, incredibly religious, are like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, what, what harm is it gonna do if
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  Speaker 4: we do chuck in a few prayers. And it was
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  Speaker 4: just minutes after Trump said the oath that they had
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  Speaker 4: these kids marching through the foyer singing glory, Glory, hallelu Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: His truth keeps marching.
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  Speaker 4: On like this whole I watched the whole ceremony. It
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  Speaker 4: was extremely livening. If you are a person of faith,
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  Speaker 4: and I take your point, Joe, that was an accident.
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  Speaker 5: I get it.
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  Speaker 4: But when it comes to a politician faking as many
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  Speaker 4: of our pollies do, faking a relationship with Christ, I
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  Speaker 4: always just go, you know what, at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day, there is one righteous judge and you'll answer
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  Speaker 4: to him.
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  Speaker 6: But it's not faking it. He's saying it's a piece
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  Speaker 6: of performance. He knows he does. The pregium poison goes.
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  Speaker 6: I believe that God saved my life. And after that,
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  Speaker 6: you would normally, if you're real born again Christian, or
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  Speaker 6: if you were someone who was really the Lord, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you would say, you know, to find peace, to find Jesus,
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  Speaker 6: to help my fellow man, and whatever it is, and
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  Speaker 6: then instead he brings out his world famous, world worn
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  Speaker 6: slogan to make America great again.
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  Speaker 1: It would be like Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 4: Saying, I don't think God wants to make like.
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  Speaker 6: Joe Biden saying, I believe that God saved me to
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  Speaker 6: build back better. Okay, so he's saying it as a
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  Speaker 6: piece of performance.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to.
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  Speaker 5: In that case, we would not.
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  Speaker 1: You can go to it.
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  Speaker 2: God doesn't want to.
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  Speaker 6: There's also a whole bunch of really interesting history between
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  Speaker 6: Donald Trump and the evangelical lobby, and of course stay
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  Speaker 6: very much.
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  Speaker 3: When he believes it's a great performance.
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  Speaker 4: At I just believe that it is just performance. This
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  Speaker 4: is the only president who has also done in the famous.
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  Speaker 5: March for Life supporting.
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  Speaker 4: Life in America being anti abortion. I think I.
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  Speaker 5: Cannot How often does he go to church?
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  Speaker 4: Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than
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  Speaker 4: going to a farm, ex.
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  Speaker 5: Cow we're going to.
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  Speaker 6: If that God had actually saved your life to implement
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  Speaker 6: your policies, you'd probably rock up both Sundays.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you don't know that he doesn't, and maybe he
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  Speaker 4: is chosen not to do as the Pharisees do, which
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  Speaker 4: is what God didn't like very much.
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  Speaker 5: He's doing everything in the.
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  Speaker 4: Open, so people could be like, oh, he's so religious.
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  Speaker 5: He's so amazing. Maybe he goes to church in his
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  Speaker 5: own It's.
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  Speaker 1: Great to watch. But again, I don't think coating this
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  Speaker 1: in a messiatic.
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  Speaker 8: God.
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  Speaker 2: Let's keep going.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if God or not, but he certainly
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  Speaker 3: believes he was saved by God. I'll tell you the
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  Speaker 3: other thing Trump believes in, and that is in cheap
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  Speaker 3: and reliable energy.
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  Speaker 2: Have listened.
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  Speaker 7: The inflation crisis was caused by massive overspending and escalating
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  Speaker 7: energy prices. And that is why today I will also
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  Speaker 7: declare a national energy emergency. We will drill, baby, drill.
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  Speaker 1: Again. It's a punchline, classic punchline. You're going to get
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  Speaker 1: the crowd. Faith. He's a good speech maker. Take the compliment.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not just a punchline. It's economic security, it's
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  Speaker 3: national security. It's more than a punchline. It's a policy.
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  Speaker 1: In his pulses, Drill, Drill, baby, drill again.
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  Speaker 6: This is all you're talking about, the theater of his inauguration.
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  Speaker 6: This is the way he does and he does it
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  Speaker 6: with these really punchy that he knows we'll get people
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  Speaker 6: on their feet. He knows they'll get a laugh, and
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  Speaker 6: again he.
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  Speaker 5: Says politicians were half as good.
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  Speaker 1: This is what he does.
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  Speaker 6: He sends out a really earnest thing, and it's what
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  Speaker 6: every great performer or speechmaker or comedian does. You pretend,
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  Speaker 6: don't pretend, but you set the tone like you're really,
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  Speaker 6: really really serious about something, and then you've just speared
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  Speaker 6: the balloon.
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  Speaker 3: Really big on slogans tonight for politicians. Can you talk
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  Speaker 3: to Elban Easy about his what's his?
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  Speaker 2: I've got your back?
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  Speaker 1: The future made as either are good.
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  Speaker 6: He has got Peter Dunn's back in the latest pole,
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  Speaker 6: so hopefully he turns that around real.
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  Speaker 2: There's one other apart from his speech.
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  Speaker 3: We want to show you that I know Liz is
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  Speaker 3: pretty excited about, and that relates to COVID vaccine mandates
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  Speaker 3: and what happened with people who refuse them.
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  Speaker 7: This week, I will reinstate any service members who were
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  Speaker 7: unjustly expelled from our military for objecting to the COVID
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  Speaker 7: vaccine mandate with full back pain.
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  Speaker 2: Liz, I know you'd be very happy, but oh justice.
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  Speaker 4: Justice has arrived for those military members.
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  Speaker 5: We know that this happened to thousands of them.
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  Speaker 4: And again this is something that every government, I think,
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  Speaker 4: needs to revisit with full back pay. As he said,
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  Speaker 4: then think of all our nurses. Think of the doctors
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  Speaker 4: who were gagged by opera here in Australia, weren't allowed
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  Speaker 4: to speak out, had to act against their consciences. Think
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  Speaker 4: of all the state employed people in education, in the
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  Speaker 4: police force who lost their jobs because they refused to
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  Speaker 4: take a vaccine that was.
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  Speaker 5: Still in trial phases.
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  Speaker 4: All of them were still in trial phases and they
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  Speaker 4: were unemployed. They were made to suffer for it financially.
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  Speaker 4: For me, being unvaccinated was one of the most, if
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  Speaker 4: not the most expensive decision I've ever made in my
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  Speaker 4: entire life.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't regret it one bit.
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  Speaker 4: But the fact that he has recognized this injustice and
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  Speaker 4: he is going to see to it that they are
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  Speaker 4: restored financially, Oh chef's kiss, This is beautiful. It needs
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  Speaker 4: to become a trend. The government does not get to
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  Speaker 4: mandate what you have to have injected into your body
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  Speaker 4: in order to participate in society. I don't care if
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  Speaker 4: we have any bowler outbreak taken from someone with a
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  Speaker 4: master's degree in human rights. You do not this is
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  Speaker 4: the one thing on earth you have complete control over.
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  Speaker 4: And that is why we recognize crimes like rape or
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  Speaker 4: sexual assault, or assault of any kind as being unspeakably bad,
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  Speaker 4: because this is yours. The government will take your money,
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  Speaker 4: it will tax you on everything you ever managed to own,
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  Speaker 4: you will read to do so throughout your entire life.
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  Speaker 4: But when it comes to your physical being, the answer
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  Speaker 4: is no.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: So while it was a day of glory for Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 3: it was another day of infamy for Joe Biden, who
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  Speaker 3: right at the last moment, In fact, it was announced
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  Speaker 3: as he and Jill were on their way to the
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  Speaker 3: inauguration ceremony, issued preemptive pardons for Anthony Fauci and for
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  Speaker 3: his entire family. And these preemptive pardons, some of them
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  Speaker 3: go back for the last ten years now. Joe Biden
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  Speaker 3: said in a statement, quote, I believe in the rule
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  Speaker 3: of law, but these are exceptional circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds a little self serving.
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump had this to say about Biden issuing these
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  Speaker 3: preemptive pardons for his family.
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  Speaker 9: I was surprised that President Biden who would go and
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  Speaker 9: pardon his whole family, because that makes him look very
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  Speaker 9: guilty and I could have pardon my family. I could
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  Speaker 9: have pardoned myself my family, and I said, if I
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  Speaker 9: do that, it's going to make me look very guilty.
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  Speaker 9: Are they going to be sitting here?
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  Speaker 3: Frankly, the weird thing about this, Joe, is you pardon
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  Speaker 3: someone for a crime that had been connected tried. But
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  Speaker 3: when you're pardoning people who've been accused of no crime,
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  Speaker 3: that's less a pardon than a shield, isn't it.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, this is this is minority report, this is pre crime,
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  Speaker 6: this is this is part of it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's kind of like the opposite.
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  Speaker 6: Instead of arresting someone for a crime that they haven't
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  Speaker 6: yet committed, you're pardoning them from a crime they hadn't
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  Speaker 6: yet committed.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: But again, I just love, Oh, they've committed the crime.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: I love the Donald's performance with this, which is that
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: I know because I think the pardon applies for anything
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: they may be charged with in the future. But but
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: the I love the fact that the Donald when he's
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: when he's saying this again, he doesn't do what the
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: left did when it was Donald Trump pardoning people and
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: them not liking saying.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: This is outrage. He's violated the.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: Sanctity of the office of the prevdor Trump talks instead
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: of all the hyper bowl the hyperboles. Sorry, how did
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: the Julia Gillard pronunciation? He he says, Oh, that looks
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: really dodgy, Like he speaks in a way that absolutely
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: everyone can understand, but also speaks in a way that
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: actually goes straight to harvest says, hang on a minute,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: you know, like that sort of tough New York street
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: wise attitude to it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Say, hang on a minute.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: If he's gone around pardoning people, that means they must
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: have done something. So instead of all the historyonics around,
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: you know, Joe Biden besmirching the great office of the
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: President of the United States, or dragging our country into you,
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: or Joe Biden has actually Hitler, which is all the
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: things that the Democrats would have said if Trump did it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: He just goes, well, obviously this guy looks guilty then,
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: and he goes, I'm too smart to do that, because
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: I know I want to look guilty.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Of course, the other.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Part of this is that Joe Biden had said he
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: would not do this. Have listened to Democrat Senator Adam
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Schiff who some time ago said no, no, this would never happen. Biden,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: I have talked, and there'll be no preemptive pardons issued.
• 18:47
  Speaker 10: The precedent of giving blanket pardons preempted blanket pardons on
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: the way out of an administration. I think as a precedent,
• 18:55
  Speaker 10: we don't want to set and.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: You've communicated that to the president.
• 18:58
  Speaker 10: President Baden communicated at publicly and privately to the misteration.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Question I have, Liz, is do you think Trump will
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: go after people? And with a right to fear that
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Trump was going to say, go after Fauci? Or do
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: you think Trump is going to fresh start. Let's not
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: abuse the rule of law. Let's just move forward and
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: not look back.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: It would not have been an abuse of the law
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: to go after Anthony Fauci. I'm like, Anthony Pauci's pardoned
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: with Satan unavailable, Seriously.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Who else do you want to pardon?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: He also pardons the general whose name was Mark Milly,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: who outright admitted that behind at the time Presidents Trump's back.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: He told China, don't worry, we haven't got any incoming strikes.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: And if we did, I would give you guys a
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: heads up.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: The biggest enemy of the United States of America here
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: was this general, Mark Millie saying, Hey, just so you know, we're.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Mates China and so so.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: If anything's coming down the pipeline at my end, I
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: will let you know that guy's pardoned. This is the
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: likes of the people that this guy has used his powers.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: And let's be clear.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Here, it is totally run of the mill normal for
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: presidents to pardon everyday Americans who have been convicted of
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: crimes on their way out the door. This is totally different.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: These people haven't been convicted of anything. They haven't even
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: been investigated. So the purpose of these pardons is to
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: ensure that they won't be investigated. And the importance of
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: this cannot be overstated because what he's essentially done is
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: create a class of people who can get away with
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: murder thanks to being in the family of the highest
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: ranking officer in the Western world, who then pardons them.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: And waltzes out the door.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Or I'm telling you, if you ever wondered who the
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: deep state really are, well a chunk of them just
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: got pardoned. Who the heck has the temerity to pardon?
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Here's the list. Here's the list that.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: The president put out in the dying minutes of his presidency.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: He pardoned his sister, her husband, his two brothers, and
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: one of his brother's wives. So he's covering off on
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: the in laws.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: I'm surprised there aren't their family pets listed.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I mean after the embarrassment and the rightful media backlash
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: when he not just preemptively but retrospectively pardoned his son
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Hunter Biden.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: And we all know the dodginess.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: We know that the Biden family pocketed millions from Ukraine
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: and good chunks of money from China as well. We
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: know that went on and once again.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: He Waltz is free.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Also, this is a crime thing family syndicate that has
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: made sure that for as long as they live, they're
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: in the clear.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: So does he go after the fifty one intelligence experts
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: who famously came out and declared that the Hunter Biden
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: laptop was Russian misinformation propaganda. Trump has suspended their security clearances.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: That's a first step.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Does he then go after and prosecute them, because arguably
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: you could accuse them of election interference. Seventeen percent of
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Americans so they would have voted differently had they known
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Hunter Biden's laptop was real.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: But of course they were.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Told by former members of the American security agencies.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: That this was all this information and they knew well
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: that it wasn't.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Because the security had had the laptop for close to
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: twelve months before they came out and saw Russian.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: How's this for an idea, right, so you go, as
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: Liz said, The idea, presumably is that Biden says, well,
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: there's no point investigating any of this because it will
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: just result in the pardon anyway. But it doesn't mean
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: you can't still investigate anyway, pursue everything to the nth degree,
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: take it through the courts, get the conviction.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: Oh, but then you've been pardoned. Imagine how that would
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: look if you actually and if I'm sure there must
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: be people in Trump's administration smart enough to see how
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: brilliant would look if they've just got the most lay
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: down as their easily prosecutable case of any of this,
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: presumably the closest you could get to Biden the best.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: He's still referring to the spies that lied.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: No, No, no, any of them, any of the any
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: of the people on the list of Hunter Biden, of
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: Joe Biden's list of pardons, including his own family. Right,
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: just because he's pardoned them doesn't mean, you can't then
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: drag you can prosecute them and drag them all through
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: the legal process, and then presumably I would think I'm
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: not a constitutional lawyer, but you could have the judge
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: actually find them guilty, at which point they would be
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: instantly pardoned and walk scot free.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Imagine a jury or.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: A Joby white House finding any of these people guilty
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: of crimes against the state, heart trees, and whatever you
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: want to call it, and then just being able to
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: walk out of the courtroom going sorry, guys already got pardon.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Imagine the theater of that. This I just gave you
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: a boy, a great idea.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Oh that's follow through.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Although remember that even while Hunter Biden was in the
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: limelight and getting absolutely roasted for his actions in the past,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: we never got proper sentencing. The guy got slapped on
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: the wrist. We can watch videos of his shenanigans with
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: crack cocaine. We can't even show you the photos of
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: him with all the hooks carrying on. All sorts of
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: stuff was going on with this guy that we actually
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: can't show you.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: The courts knew all of that, and the guy just again.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Even before he had this massive pardon from his father.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: They didn't get justice in the courts. But what Trump's
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: done here with these spies that lied, there's.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Over fifty of them, is so important.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Because we are supposed to believe that despite the CIA
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: interfering foreign interference to the back teeth in elections and
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: toppling governments all over the world, we've known about it
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: since the forties, most recently Siria.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: That was Operation Timber Sycamore. Look it up.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Obama ordered the CIA to get rid of the Assad government,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: and yes, they do plan these things that far out
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: in advance. So him going after the CIA, who then
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: tried to convince us that, oh, you know, we weren't
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: involved in election interference. Yes, you were right at home, baby,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: because you guys held onto this laptop you insisted it
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: was Russian disinformation. Like you say, seventeen percent of Americans
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: would have voted differently, We'll never know what the outcome
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty election would have been. Now, So
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: the more he digs out these absolute evil siccos as
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned, if you know any thing about
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: the history of the CIA and their dealings, the more
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: he digs out the bad eggs, the better because these
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: guys never retire. They hang around Washington, DC, they go
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: on CNN and MSNBC, Former CIA, this former CIA, that
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: they massage the public psyche, They manipulate understandings regarding massively
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: important world events. And the fact that he's just like
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: picking out over fifty of them in this one swathe,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: going I'm coming after you and for now your clearance
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: is just like they're the.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Very definition of what Trump refers to as the deep state.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: It was only Trump's day, but I liked how he
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: made it the people's day. When he finished his inauguration,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: he started signing many, many, dozens and dozens, almost two
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: hundred executive orders, but rather than doing it all from
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: the Oval office, he did it at the Capital One
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Arena in front of thousands of people so they could
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: enjoy the moment.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Have look at this.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: This is Trump signing an executive order to abandon the
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Paris Climate Agreement.
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: The next item here is the withdrawal from the Paris
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: Climate Treaty. We're going to save over a trillion dollars
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: by withdrawing from that treaty.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Of course, Anthony Albanese was immediately asked, what does this
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: mean for Australia, and Anthony Albanesi replied, where a sovereign nation.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Can fool me on that?
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: With all of our treaties that we've signed up to,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: he says, we'll continue to take action on climate change,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: not just because we have an interest in meeting the challenge.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: We know Australia has been adversely affected by extreme weather events,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: so of course that's going to change the weather here
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: in Australia.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: But he goes on to say, even if.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: You don't accept the science of climate change, Joe, economic
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: opportunity to grow the economy is too good to miss
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: out on.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Is he joking?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: No? If he gets absolutely.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Tanking because of energy prices, if Trump has just saved
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: the US a trillion dollars with the stroke of his
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: pen getting out of this thing, and Albaniez he says,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: oh no, no, this is the future for our economy.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: If you get it right. And obviously it is to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: get it right.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: Neatly that qualified is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: But again, so a really good example is gas. Right,
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: So Australia has completely screwed the perch with gas because
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: we listened too long and too much to the crazy
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: climate extremists who said, no, we can't have any gas
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: in the system at all, it has to be all
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: green electricity, and we basically shot ourselves in the foot.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: And you can see Madeline King, the Resources Minister, trying
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: to do a reverse ferret on that and reopening gas supplies,
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: reopening gas fields in Victoria and New South Wales where
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: there were stupid moratoriums that made no sense whatsoever. The
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: Victorian premier is into Alan is now begging for more gas,
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: having banned it from use in all households, and again
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: by opening the gas fields in Narrabrai which have been
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: laid for what happening.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It isn't the point. Trump has gotten rid of ideology, elevantage.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: It's just cheap, reliable.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So he's doing that is great.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: But what Albanz is saying is there are opportunities to
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: for example, you know hydrogen. Japan is desperate for hydrogen
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: imports from Australia, so our hy exports to them. If
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: we can get that right, that is a multi, multi,
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: multi billion dollar industry. And again we've got heaps of
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: gas which is better than coal and better to burn
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: than coal. If we exploit that instead of suppressing it
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: because it's not perfect, which is what the greenies want
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: to do, then that is a huge opportunity. In fact,
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: the reason why we have gas shortages in Australia is
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: because the gas producers can sell it for so much
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: more overseas. So again, you can get it right if
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: you're sensible and pragmatic about it, but not when you
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: are sort of one eyed about it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: And that was what I think.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: When you're signed up to the Paris Agreement, the most
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: expensive piece of paper on the face of planet Earth,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: why can't you say, yes, we'll take action on climate change,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: not by signing up to some stupid United Nations World
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Economic Forum trash. We are going to do our own
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: thing regarding our piddly one point three percent of global admissions,
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: do me a flip and favor. And surely with a
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: behemoth like the United States pulling out, what the heck
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: are we doing in it with our piddley one point
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: three We just want the clap on the back, don't we.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: An actual will?
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Because what Trump's.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Doing by pulling out is saying I'm doing what's best
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: for my country is America first, and my goodness, I
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: would trade my two front teeth and a limb of
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: your choosing to hear Australia first out of the mouth
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: of an Australian prime minister.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: It's really not.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: That hard Australia.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: That's such a massive lie.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: What an absolute joke.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Trump is also withdrawn from the World Heth Health Organization, much.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: To my absolute gly This guy hates the UN.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: He calls them out for the absolute pathetic shills that
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: we call them out for all the time.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: He knows what they are.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: They are a bloated bureaucracy elected by absolutely nobody and
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: completely meaningless. These guys get the likes of Iran and
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: China to head up their human rights counsels and all
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: sorts of nonsense. We know that they mean nothing, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: yet we so willingly participate in all their ridiculous little projects.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: One of the first things.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: I learned when I was studying my master's degree of
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Human rights is that this is a completely toothless organization.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: All the treaties, all the conventions, they actually mean nothing.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: We get applauded.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Even Iran and the likes of China, who are so
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: responsible for all these human rights abuses that are.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: Famous the world over. They get as much applause as
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: we do for.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Being signees to these treaties and these it is nonsense.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And Trump Caliban, they are very tough on climate.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Change as bs. I'm not even playing along. I'm out.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: And he pointed out that China have a population three
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: hundred percent larger than the US and yet pay ninety
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: percent less to the World Health Organization than the US. Well,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Trump will probably change America is convinced. He absolutely will
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: change the entire universe to Mars as well.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: But the entire world.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what won't change, and that is the
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: progressive left wing media. They are still doing their same
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: old tricks. The laugh is that they think anyone's going
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: to believe it. Have a look at what they did
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: to Elon Musk today. I'll show you first a little
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: part of a speech that Elon Musk gave. Musk was
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: very excited about the inauguration today, and he expressed that
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: excite meant to have a look.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I just want to say, thank you for making it happen.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you. My heart goes out to you.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: So his heart went out to all the people there.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: His heart was going out to have a look at
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: how CNN reported his heart going out.
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: I just want to look at that salute that he
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: gave again.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Just if anybody missed it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: We'll just show it again. He's just wrapped up here.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: You can hear the all right, So we just showed that.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: We just showed that, right, it's worth salute. It was quick.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I think our viewers are smart and they can take
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: a look at that. But it certainly was It's not.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Something that you typically see in American political rallies.
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: Put it that way.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: No, No, it was not something that you usually would see.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: They just showed that.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: They just showed that our viewers are smart enough to realize.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: What we're continue insinuating. Here are they insinuated?
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: What I thought was hilarious about watching this clip. I
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: genuinely think both of them are too dumb to know
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: it's called the seguile, that's.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: What you're trying to refer to.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: But it was like she just refers to it as
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: a salute because she's like, what's it called the hitless salute?
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you just say, gosh, that looks a lot
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: like seghile. Let's just say what I'm trying to say. No,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: I genuinely think that both those ladies did not know
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: what to call it, so we're trying to say it,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: but literally couldn't.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: And yet they were accusing Elon Musk of doing Joe
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: a Nazi salute. And while they hinted at it, other
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: news organizations just came out and said it. PBS tweeted
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: billionaire Elon Musk gave what appeared to be a fascist
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: salute Monday while making a speech at the post inauguration celebration.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Politico they tweeted Elon Musk's salute to Trump supporters is
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: going viral, as critics on social media compare it to
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: a victory salute used to excite crowds in Nazi Germany.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Have the media learned nothing? This is part of the
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: reason Trump won because the Democrats and their siffroicants in
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: the media kept saying he was a dictator.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: He was literally hit literally still.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Got right, like that's right.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: And then of course every single person is thinking of
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: voting for Donald Trump or already voting for Donald Trump
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: planning to so calling me a Nazi, well, I know
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: I'm not a Nazi. So if you're saying about him,
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: you must be lying about him too. That means that
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: you're a liar, and therefore I'm definitely going to vote him. Insane,
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: so stupid. But speaking of how stupid it is, right,
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: let's just okay, so let's just say that they genuinely
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: believe that Elon Musk decided to go to a rally
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  Speaker 6: and throw a couple of Hyle Hitler's to the crowd. Right,
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: let's just pretending going to what did they think was
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: the point of that? Did they think that, oh, look, guys, hey,
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: we're all neo Nazis, but we just got home in
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: the election at once, and now I'm coming out strokes
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: on them because they're all really Nazis. I'll give it
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: just a little, a little clue, little hint to all
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: the sort of woke conspiratorialists who think that there is
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: this sinister evil which is a bit like the crazy
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: right wingers as well, but that all these people who
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: think that there is this evil neo Nazi presence in
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: you know, in Donald Trump or anyone who voted for them,
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: if there is a secret neo Nazi presence in your organization,
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: you tend not to announce it to a giant stadium
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: full of people.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Well, the wo.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: The whole point by your secret Nazis' secret.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: You don't go off doing.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Your wellies because this would happened to be the most
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: secretive Nazi of all time. Though, because anyone who knows
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: anything about Elon he has been so staunchly pro Israel.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: He has gone there, he has visited the sites of
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: the different massacres that occurred on October seventh.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: Like, there is no shade to cast on this guy.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: It is the stupidest attempt to frame anyone in this
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: light that I've seen today.
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  Speaker 2: The joke is not the lie.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: The joke is that the media think that anyone would
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: believe them. Before we go to a break, have a
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: look at this clip of Elon Musk and Donald Trump's
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: son Baron having a great time at the inauguration, or
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: at least Musk war was Baron looked pretty serious.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: Every teenager who has dragged along to one of his
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: dad's work events.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: The next four years is going a lot of fun.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: When we come back local news, as we've got what's
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: making headlines in tomorrow's papers.
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  Speaker 1: That's a.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to late debate. Let's take a look at
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: what's making news in tomorrow's papers. We'll start with my
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: old stomping ground, Townsville, where the bulletin reports Fight for
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: the Forgotten Premiere, how can you let car thieves spend
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: more time behind bars than teen rapists? The article reads,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: serial juvenile car thieves could spend more time in prison
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: than teenagers found guilty of rape after it was left
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: out of the new government's law reforms. The paper is
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: calling on Premier David Christofuley's government to make a promise
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: to Queensland survivors like Townsll's Eb Clayton, who's featured on
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  Speaker 3: the front page, that rape will be treated just as
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: seriously as car theft under his government's adult crime Adult
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Time laws. Now, this is not the first anomaly that's
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: been pointed out since the LNP came to power boasting
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: about adult crime Adult time laws that they would institute.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: There was a recent example of a teenager who is
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: alleged to have stabbed a coals worker in the back,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: almost killing her, but attempted murder is not covered under
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: the adult crime Adult Time laws. So there's all of
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: these anomalies which Joe, I suppose, you know, when you're
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: leedslating you you can make some mistakes.
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  Speaker 6: Legislating based on where the media cycle and news headlines.
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  Speaker 3: Right, this is the big thing the LNP sold the Queensland.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty disappointing that they've got anomalies as obvious and
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: as stupid as this.
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  Speaker 1: We look.
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  Speaker 6: I think clearly they were responding though to public concerns
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: and they obviously would have been looking at right, what
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: is the public almost worried about? What we're are the
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: crimes spiking the most? These are the ones will go
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: after and then these kind of anomalies have got I'm
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: sure they'll have no you know, they waste no time
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: throwing these things into it. I'm pretty sure the message
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: here is we want less jail time for car thieves.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: It is about incorporating all these other crimes into that omnibus.
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  Speaker 4: But the whole thing of adult time, I mean, it's
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: got a great ring to it, and you wanted to
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: win an election, I get it. But the overwhelming stats
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: in the data from Queensland is that magistrates we're not
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: using the maximum afforded to them by.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: The prior set rules.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: So if they weren't using anywhere near the maximum that
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: used to be much much less for the same crimes
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: as if they're going to be using the maximum time
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: for adult crime or whatever. Say, it's very very catchy
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: and they wanted to be seen to do something to
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: saty eate the obviously and rightful anger of the public
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: during this.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Youth Why were you arguing for mandatory sentencings.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: No, not at all.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: I'm simply saying this was a ploy and it's it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: already working out to be well. They're calling out problems
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: with it, but the main problem with it is that
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: just because you've set a higher maximum for a crime
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: that used to have a much lower maximum, if the
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: magistrates weren't using.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: The lower maximum, they're not going to touch the higher.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Maximum that you've made available to them. And I believe
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: it was the Australian who wrote a brilliant article about that,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: with all the statistics in it from Queensland's and the
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: rulings of the judges, and none of them got anywhere
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: near the maximums that they.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Were already afforded. So this was always a ploy to
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: get them into government.
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  Speaker 4: It worked very powerfully, I'm sure, but like a lot
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: of policies, like a lot of legislation.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: People, it is not as it appears.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Also a little trick they actually picked up from a
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: former New South Wales many many years ago, a former
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: New South Wales labor government that used to every time
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: the opposition called for higher minimum sentences, they'd say, oh,
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: even higher maximum sentences. But speaking of adult time, I
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: do just have to pay tribute to my favorite adult
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: who just time and time and time again, he just
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: will not go away. This man is a stayer. It is,
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: of course the former mayor. I can't even tell whether
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: he's the mayor or not.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: He's that's right.
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  Speaker 4: I cannot time before old mate was not suspended on
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: full pay.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: Could I just say you get more time for being
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: a juvenile car thief than his former man gets being
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: suspended on full pack. I'm just going to read it
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: out because I can't. I can't get my head out up,
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: but I just love it. Suspended mayor is still damaging city,
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: reads the headline. The chief executive Townsville City Council has
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: labeled endless social media rants from suspended Mayor Troy Thompson
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: as damaging, quote unquote, saying staff's well.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Being is at risk, so he's on the tweets. He's
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: gotten on. He's got all this hand so what is
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: he doing. He's on the tweets, he's on the facebooks.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: He's been running online polls about whether or not the
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: council should be disbanded in his absence, whether or not
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: the towns Will bulletin should be ordered to stop printing
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: because they keep featuring him on the front page.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: You love it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: It's like the Townshire Building and I just love them.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Good on.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: You do not change a thing, but as the Towns
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: of Building just has this guy's face on their blank
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: template of every front page.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, obviously obviously the former mayor's.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: Day every day.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: What's the next story anyway?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, enough of Troy Thompson. Moving on now to the
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Australian Boulder.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: That's the wrong headline.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Alps work around to cope with a new political climate.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Get this.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: They can't hack Trump being in office. It appears they're like, no,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: it can't work with that guy, So this is their plan.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: The Albanese government has raised the prospect of working directly
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: with Democrat controlled states in the US on climate change
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: initiatives after Donald Trump signed an executive order to pull
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: out of the Paris Agreement while vowing to unwine.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Support for low carbon industries. So these fly to have gone, well,
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: we'll just work with our friends. Then the Blue team,
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: the Democrats, we are just what are you going to do?
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: Get on the line to the governors and be like, hey,
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: we're stoolmates. Yeah, you guys are.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Still on board. Are you a safe city?
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: Are you a sanctuary city? Are you over run by
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: illegal aliens?
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Government are pains to say we're going to have a
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: wonderful relationship with the Trump administration. We're going to get
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: on famously. And now they're publicizing that. What we're actually
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: going to do is go around Donald Trump.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: To like me saying to my wife, We're going to
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: have a great relationship.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to shag this other chick behind your back.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Is that okay? But we can see we're still going
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: to have We're going to be perfect, it's going to
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: be great. Look you know, okay, we're still trying to
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: get Congressman was asked.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: If he'd been telling Joe Biden, you know what to do,
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: and you know that he would be pardoning anyone and
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: blah blah, Yeah, and so it says, Look, I publicly
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: and privately try to say all these things, and you know,
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: but yeah, I'm not sure if that's the best message
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: to be sending, right about it.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, how much do you reckon?
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Pennywong and Kevin Rudd would have enjoyed the inauguration today.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Sitting there Biden, Clinton, Harris looked incredibly uncomfortable. Sadly the
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: camera never panned around too, because they're probably up the back,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Pennywong and.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: True Kevin Rudd. But I would have loved to have
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: seen the looks on their face.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: They were not given seats of honor, and no ousta.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: All of his policies. We're going to go to a
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: break when we come back.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Not everything when according to Plant at the inauguration will
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: show you one thing that did not. And of course
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: there was the African American preacher who almost stole the show.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: That's coming up from sim Well, we thought we'd finish
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: the program by highlighting some of our favorite moments from
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: the inauguration.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Liz will let you kick it off. What did you like,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Oh my.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Gosh, Millennia Trump's outfit. Okay, can we have a minute
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: for this get up. She is the this is iconic,
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen. I'm like Jackie Kennedy, who this Eastern
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: European woman, Millennia Trump just blasted every first lady out
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: of the water in terms of style and grace.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: I just I want to be her best friend so bad.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: I entertained myself the entire inauguration ceremony just thinking through
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: what her commentary would be as an Eastern European because
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: she is based. Every time she opens her mouth, You're like,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: I see where Trump gets it from.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: And do you see how you see how he kissed
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: her so carefully. That hat, it looks like the hat
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: that the.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Would throw and it would lop someone's head off. What
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: did you like, Joe?
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: What was your favor?
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I like, look, I like I love a.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: Bit of a cappella and I'm a very musical. You
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: would have heard me singing backstage break during break so
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: I loved Carry Underwood's impromptu a cappella rendition of the
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: Star Spangled Banner.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: And anyone who's in any doubt that there is a.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: Deep state conspiracy within Washington trying to sabotage the Trump
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: presidency can be absolutely assured that they did, and they
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: started on Inauguration Day when they cut the wires to
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: the karaoke machine.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Have a listen.
• 47:30
  Speaker 11: If you know the words help me out you.
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: Oh force space scyes for a Booieve.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Look, the Skies line didn't land quite right.
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: I've got to say a little bit flat. But I
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: pulled it together after that, so you know, I'd give
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: her a eight point five.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Wowel, this is her big moment, right the entire world
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: is watching. Every singer's nightmare is the music track doesn't work,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: and yet she kept her showbiz smile and just carried
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: on better than Meatlafe, very well done, a lot better
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: than Meatlafe. At the AFL Grand Final, my favorite mode
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: was when the three ministers or religious figures got up
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: to give their prayer. There was a Jewish rabbi, there
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: was a sort of a mainline more traditional preacher. But
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: the guy who stole the show. If you've ever been
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: to an African American church, you knew this.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Was going to happen.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Reverend Lorenzo Saul from the one eighty Church in Detroit.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: He absolutely went wild with his prayer.
• 48:37
  Speaker 11: Have a look, America is called to be a great nation.
• 48:43
  Speaker 11: We believe that you will make this come true. So
• 48:46
  Speaker 11: let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire.
• 48:52
  Speaker 11: Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Let freedom ring.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: I just love a preacher who manages to get a
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: flex in the middle of his praying to God.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: But look at my guns.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: This guy was I think one of six people who
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: got up and prayed for me.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: He was the least.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: Inspiring because he was just so animated.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I didn't believe They pulled out Franklin Graham and I
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: was like, he's still alive.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: You've gotta go then, So we've got time for stick around.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Coming up is the Rena Penny Show.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Good Night,