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Charlie's Scare, The Aunt Judy Jacket and Dog Owner Pressure · You Know What I Mean?

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Thanks. It's a little wet.
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Hello it's a. Little Wet.
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That's how the podcast starts. Good morning my beautiful
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friend. Good morning, how I miss you in
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person. I know I miss you too, and I
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miss the sunshine and I miss all the dogs.
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And it's actually really weird because coming back home, it
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feels obviously super, super nice, but I'm like, it's too
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calm and quiet here. Like there's not enough of like,
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do your dogs need to go out? Can fit come out now?
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I miss having a cat here, by the way.
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Yeah. Literally, I wouldn't blame you.
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So before we anything, how is your heart like?
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Oh my. Gosh, how bring us through the
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last not even 48 hours? No.
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So Charlie, our oldest dog, is about 14.
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He started acting really weird and he started like stumbling in
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the backyard and his head was tilted and I immediately jumped
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to Oh my God, he had a stroke or something terrible.
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So I ran in, asked Bobby to come out and we were just expecting
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the worst. He was also doing something
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where his one of his eyes was like twitching or like you could
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see it moving, which I don't know anything about this.
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And so I just thought it was a neurological thing.
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And so overnight he had a really hard time sleeping.
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I had to sleep on the floor for a bit to get him to settle.
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Oh my. Gosh, was he just like pacing or
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what was going? On yeah he would get up and pace
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so we were pretty much anticipating that we were
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expecting the worst. So the next morning we like like
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we were both crying about it and like just talking about well one
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he's our like he's our OG dog. He's like, we've got them kind
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of in like clumps, like where he was with Sadie, who's passed
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since. And so just going through all of
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that, the emotions of that. And then because we called the
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day before the vet and they said monitor them overnight, they
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were about to close. I really didn't want to take
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them in when they were ready to leave.
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And he was doing OK except for like the weird stuff.
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So we called early in the next morning, make an appointment and
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it was for 10:30 because we wanted to have some time with
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him. So we started planning like it
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was his last day. Oh my God.
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I yeah, because at that age, you're going to go to the worst
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and like seeing how he was like acting, you're like, OK, if it
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is something neurological, we're not going to like, make him go
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through this. What for like a couple extra
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months for us? No, and we don't want him to be
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like not moving at all. Like so we were thinking, oh,
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your mug. I love that mug.
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Oh, I have a mug. OK, my favorite one now my kiss
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1 or whatever heart 1. So.
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So we got him McDonald's Bethany.
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When you sent me that text, it also that picture of him
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happiest day of his life, like you guys are probably like this
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is going to be one of the saddest days of ours.
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Yes, like he's just like. He was loving.
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It I showed case of the picture and he's like, oh Charlie.
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He's like I love him so much. He goes just so I know.
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I was never annoyed that he was like on me while I was eating my
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ice cream. Oh yeah, because Charlie was
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such a moocher when y'all were here and.
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He always has been, but like we love old dogs.
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So it's like he's literally just doing like he's trying to just
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live his best life. He's not trying to like, you
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know, Johnny is so sweet. Like he literally is like how I
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view Johnny is like the little brother that like actually wants
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to do right versus like the little brother that wants like
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stir up trouble. And then like Charlie's like I'm
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doing whatever my heart desires. I don't care what anyone has to
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say about it. And I love that for him.
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Yeah, So he was loving it. It was so weird that we went
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through McDonald's and you know how like, just weird things can
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happen. And it's like, Oh my gosh, this
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is so bizarre. Like behind us, someone I just
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didn't know people did this. This is insane that I'm saying
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this. I'm, I know people do this, but
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the lady behind us, she like in the drive through lane threw out
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her giant cup of, I don't know, coke or something and just
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littered in the line. Is that weird?
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It's so weird. It was just one of those things
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where I was like. Oh, people, maybe they do that,
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but they should not do that. No, of course not.
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I didn't. Know.
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Bizarre. I mean it's insane to say it's
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people don't litter. I know they do, but like.
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In the line, usually it's like, oh, they're throwing it out the
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window, like on a highway or something, which is still
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terrible, but like it. Was like I ruined it up.
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It was like, no, she just like threw it up anyway.
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So so then we go to, I've taken you here.
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I don't know if I've taken you with Casey Kraft Azalea where
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Bobby and I got married. I knew right where that was when
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I saw the pictures. Yeah, OK.
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So we wanted to take him there and take some pictures and like
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give him this breakfast sandwich that he devoured.
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He was like eating like branches off the ground to try to get all
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the pieces. So he was loving it.
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And we were like it, like we were kind of like, oh, this is
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so nice. It was nice weather walking
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around and then when we were driving over to the vet and then
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like this is. Slightly morbid too.
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It was wild. Like we just went through all
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the emotions of like, we both were crying so much.
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Like, Oh my gosh, I can't imagine our life without him in
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it. And so then we went to the vet
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and they put us into a room where we were with Sadie when
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she passed away. I just.
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Got chills? So there's like they have these
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fake candles they have the girl came in, she was like they have
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stones that you can write the name on and they have like a
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more so they even had a jar of Hershey kisses, like give him
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kiss. Anyway, So then the lady was
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like, but do you want the doctor to come in?
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Because again, we went into it like I don't want him to suffer.
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He's older if this is how he is, where he's like can't see and
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all this stuff and. Like running into things,
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walking crooked. Yes, like constantly fumbling
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and she was like, what do you want to see the the vet to like
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talk through any other options? And we were both like, we don't
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really want to get him drugged up, but sure, of course we want
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like, feedback and he comes in. Actually have a stroke like
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what's going? On yes, yeah.
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So he comes in and diagnosis him with Vertigo, which I have not
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have you ever seen a dog with Vertigo?
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I've never I've heard of it in. People.
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Yeah. No, I haven't.
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So it's like an inner. Ear thing that can happen to a
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dog as well because I mean dogs technically can get like doggy
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dementia as well. Well, we thought he was having
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dementia for sure, but so it was Vertigo and we were like, Oh my
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gosh, not neurological. He was like listening to all the
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things. Everything sounded good, which
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surprised me too because I thought I was.
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Hearing. They just said that's like old,
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old. But they agree that he is not
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hearing the best. They didn't really check.
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OK. Or I'm like.
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Or is this just the selective 1? Day.
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Well, I know he can't hear only because if someone comes through
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the door, it's not just when Bobby's trying to corral him
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into a room where he's like, I don't hear anything you're
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saying. Like when he's eating worms.
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Devouring my we were. Talking about that before, like
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we got the good news that he's doing OK, we were just like, I
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literally said, he said. I'm so glad he got to eat that
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bucket of worms. Yeah, I give my chickens these
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dried worms. And I left the that little jar
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open, big jar over by the fence and I forgot it was there.
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And I look out and I I'm always aware that Charlie's eating
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something. So it's like, what is he getting
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into? I got to stop him.
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I'm yelling his name from the porch.
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Nothing. No, not changing at all.
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I walk over, he's just head deep in this jar with the tried
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worms. The thing about it, though, that
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I was telling Casey was as you were heading his way, I think he
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genuinely knew you were coming. Like maybe he felt your
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footsteps or something because he started eating quicker.
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He was like, like, I'm going to get as many as I possibly can.
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Oh. My God.
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OK, OK, sorry I'm interjecting just because I don't know.
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I'm happy. And all the like, partly feeling
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all the. Feelings for you?
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Yeah. So you guys are in there.
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They say it's Vertigo. Yeah.
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And we're telling him about like, the anxiety, which has
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just gotten worse, I feel like, over the last month or so.
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And he said, well, how about we get him on some anxiety meds,
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see if that helps, and just give him, you know, another chance to
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see if that helps him feel better.
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And then the Vertigo should, should subside in like a week or
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so. We're like, Oh my God.
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Of course, like we went, we were literally sitting there when
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they left the first time and we were talking each other through
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like, OK, this is quality of life.
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This is the worst decision. But we've been through a Sadie.
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We know how we felt after where we felt like we did the right
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thing, even though in the moment it was terrible.
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So we were like pepping each other up, like, no, this is
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what's best. And then when he comes in with
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this and I'm like, tap, because I'm sitting behind Bobby, I tap
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him on the shoulder. Like, yeah, like we definitely
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we should get get him some meds, see if that helps.
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Like, what do you think? Let's do this.
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He's like, yeah, of course. So so then we were just
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exhausted like I. Can't even that emotional roller
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coaster. How was he the day that we left?
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So. That was Monday, so.
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What was yesterday, Wednesday? Yeah, yesterday's Wednesday,
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today's Thursday. So this all happened in a matter
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of Tuesday was the bad day. So how was he Monday?
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He was fine Monday because Tuesday's when I sent you a text
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of the coffee saying I miss you. Yeah, yeah.
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So Monday he was fine. Tuesday when we get back, we
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hear him barking because he's with our dogs in that room
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barking, barking, which again, to me is an anxious thing
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because he hasn't always done that and so.
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He I never remembered him doing that.
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No. Like even not even last time we
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were there. No, so this is all very new.
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So then after that I let them out.
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I was outside. Bobby went in and got on a call
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with his Co worker and I noticed he was wobbling and I was like
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Oh my God. Like so that's what?
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So was that Tuesday? Yeah.
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And then Wednesday, yesterday was taking him to the vet.
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Yeah. So he seems a little bit better.
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He's a little bit more like he's on the meds so he's a little
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more. I don't know if it's just being
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calm and old or he's laying around a lot still with the
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Vertigo is still there a little bit.
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Do you know? What they put him on.
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Trazodone for pain and a little bit of anxiety and that one's in
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a capsule so we can't change the dose.
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And then the other one I forget what it's called but
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specifically for anxiety. Gabapentin.
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Yes. OK, yeah, that's what that was,
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the stuff that was in those little tubes that we thought we
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would have to give Ducky on the car ride.
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Oh, OK. Excuse me, it's gabapentin.
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So yeah, I mean, I feel like it's one of those things where
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it's like you guys will know what's best, like try something
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and if you do notice, like with the anxiety meds and stuff,
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obviously just tell your vet if it's like all he's doing is
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laying around because Trazodone really is like a tranquilizer
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type of thing. So, but maybe that'll just help
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him get through like the Vertigo and stuff like that and take the
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edge off for him versus like what's worse, him being a little
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drugged up and chill or pacing around running into things.
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You know, the thing that was so weird too that like this felt
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like, you know, obviously for you guys, it came out of
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nowhere. So obviously he's got some aged
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stuff of like that cognitive stuff.
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But like physically besides like his fatty tumors, he just seems
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so lively still. That's where it felt.
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So. Weird.
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And maybe it's because I have the contrast of like Rhodie's
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physicality. Like Rhodie looks sick, but
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cognitively he's so sharp that it's like Charlie just I was
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like, this just doesn't seem right, which I.
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Know, we got into the vet room, into the room at the vet and he
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was like pacing, but like walking around and like, not
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like when we took Sadie, she like couldn't really get up.
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So it just felt so different when we were like, holy shit.
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Like what is this the right thing to do?
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Like, yeah, yeah. One of my clients turned
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friends. She's really really she has
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horses and so she's very in tune with like the energy of horses
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and her dogs and stuff like that.
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And when we were struggling with one of the things with Rhody
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when we were trying to figure out like what's going on with
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him, something that she like told me that like made it feel
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like peaceful for if and when that well, obviously it's not an
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if we circle of life. It will happen at some point was
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like when we have to make that decision.
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If it's something that doesn't happen naturally, like being OK
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with knowing that even if they're not at their worst, it's
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OK to like let their, you know, physical body go if it means
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that like you still see the sparkle in them a little bit
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too. Because I feel like sometimes
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like we want it to be where it's like, which I'm not saying this
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with Charlie, what you guys did was 100% the right call.
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But I felt like with Sadie is like, even though cognitively
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she might have still been there, you guys just knew that that
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wasn't like not being able to like get up and like move
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normally was just not probably what she would have wanted.
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No, yeah. I mean, I was thinking about
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that so much, and we kept coming back to the term quality of
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life. Like Charlie doesn't love going
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on walks, even though he does when I'm feeding him treats.
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So there's that, but but just like otherwise.
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He loves life. Yeah, he literally, he just
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loves walking around and scavengering.
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And yeah, he. Really does he likes being a
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part of like the pack? Like you can just tell that he
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there was nothing about him besides him being kind of like F
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this, I'm in this room and not doing what I want to do.
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That was like, oh, Charlie seems rough.
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Nothing. Yeah, I know.
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Just old, old. I don't care what anyone thinks.
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Energy which? I love fair.
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Like fair. He's basically acting like a
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cat. Yeah, so I'm feeling much
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better. Yesterday I was just like.
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Did you guys just chill and. Unwind I did.
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Bobby did some like work but he was also exhausted because he
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was really feeling all the things and my way of vegging is
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I cooked some more fresh soup so.
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Your third batch within 72 hours.
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Perfect. Propping veggies is so calming
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to me. Oh my gosh, we got our knives
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sharpened yesterday. Did you?
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Can you tell the difference? Well, I actually haven't used
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them yet. Casey used one of the big ones
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last night to cut up carne asada before cooking it, and he said
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he noticed a huge difference. We were able to get all of our
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knives. They even sharpen steak knives
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like the serrated ones. I had no idea we got all of our
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knives sharpened for $70. What at the kitchen store?
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He took it to It's actually a place that's like attached to a
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butcher. Is it by that breakfast place we
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went to? Yes, yeah, That place we walked
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past and we saw the sign sharpens the knives.
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Casey's like, OK, I'm going to go there.
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Yeah, it was $5 a night. Oh my gosh, that's so awesome.
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Yeah. So life changing.
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Also, Are you ready for a Casey story?
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Always. OK, you're going to be like,
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this is like, so him. So, you know, we literally
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didn't get home until it was like 3:30-ish on Tuesday.
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It's only Thursday morning. So yesterday, Wednesday was our
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first like, full day at home. Yeah.
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We have 0 groceries, zero, anything.
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You know, stuff when you're gone for a long period of time.
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Yeah. So I went on Tuesday late
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afternoon after being in the car all day.
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I wanted to kind of like move anyway.
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So I went to the grocery store and got all the stuff to make
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the soup that you made. And then the next day was going
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to be kind of like our let's go to Trader Joe's, let's go to
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Costco, let's go to the gym. Like let's get back into a
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routine. Well, Casey decides to add on to
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his routine. Let's change out the entire
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faucet in our kitchen sink. Like just let's do that today.
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And I think he's thinking it's going to be like a quick easy
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project like your shower heads were.
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And it probably should have been, but it's just a much
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tighter space. So the reason he wanted to
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change this out because we already had a matte black one.
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Like it looked good. But this is very fair.
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And I honestly am happy with the fact that his brain goes this
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way. He was seeing something about
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like brands of the faucets and stuff like that on Amazon.
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We're getting recalled for potentially having lead in them.
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And so of course with Casey being very like, I want to know
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what's in stuff. He's like, we, I don't, I, we
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need to get a new faucet, which is kind of hilarious because
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when we first picked out that sink faucet, he was like, oh,
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let's go the Amazon route because it's cheaper, which I
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had. I was like, why don't we just
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grab it while we're at Home Depot?
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We know we like this one. But it's it's, it's the effect
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of Park Ave. Literally, he wants to feel
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rich, so we have to talk about Park Ave.
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So this is like I get home. We went to Trader Joe's in the
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morning, went to the gym, came back and then I had a call with
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Molly and then I had to head to PT.
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So I'm coming back from PT at 3 thirtyish.
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I get home shortly before 4. He hasn't started putting the
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faucet on yet. I'm like, OK, like he's probably
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just, you know, I don't know how long that stuff takes.
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Quick at doing it, he starts doing it.
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I pull out my walking pad and I'm like, you know what?
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I just want to walk in my walking pad and watch Love is
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Blind. So I'm watching it.
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I'm walking. He's like, Kate, I need your
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help in here. I'm like, Oh my gosh.
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So he's trying to screw this thing and it is not tightening.
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It's not tightening. I'm holding it.
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He's like, is it tight? And like, no, it's fully
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flopping around like I don't know what you no, it's not
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working. I end up needing to get under
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the sink because his hand can't fit in the area that you need to
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twist it. I'm not kidding you.
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I'm under their sweating. I'm like, I was not planning on
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doing this today. I was like so annoyed.
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If you're doing great, honey, I'm like, oh, usually let me get
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you a headlamp. So he gets me a headlamp.
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I'm under there. I'm like, I did not sign up for
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this project, but I was like, I can't wait to tell Bethany this
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because she's going to be like, this is so Casey.
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We ended up figuring it out, but he wouldn't be able to do it
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without me. Obviously, I love this.
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I love a Casey story. It is.
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You'll never know. It's so random.
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He's one of the funniest people I've ever met.
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You and him are literally I think twins that were born in
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different decades. But also like, I don't know.
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That's true. It sounded harsh, but that is
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very true. Which is true You're.
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Born in the 80s. He was born in the 90s.
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OK. Yeah, that's true.
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You guys are literally, and that's probably why I adore you
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so much as you guys are so much alike.
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So tell when we were biking to meet him with his brothers at
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Park Ave. Which Park Ave. is this?
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Like it's a fancier St. It's bougie.
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It's a lot of like European tourists will hear, but it's not
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like Disney. It's a totally different vibe.
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No, no, it's a little. Expensive store, expensive
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stores, stuff like that. Like 90% of the stores I'll
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probably never walk in a because they're not my style and be AT
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shirt is $376 like. No, thank you.
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But. Here's a Lululemon which we love
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to frequent. They have that awesome farmers
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market on Saturdays, which we've never really like.
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Gone with you guys, but we went this time and that veggie what?
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Do you even call it? Veggie stand and it's not even
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it was like a full tent with they had little shopping baskets
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because. Oh my gosh.
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So bougie like what? Farmers Market has a shopping
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basket. Oh, you think that the farmers
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market is bougie? That those vegetables were
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bougie. Really.
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In a beautiful way. I mean literally like their.
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Kale was 799. Like that's so funny, I didn't
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even notice the oh that's not surprising either.
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I didn't really notice, surprised the detail.
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OK, but when you got to the checkout, were you like oh, or
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did it just seem normal really? Well, I think I was highly
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distracted. Shopped.
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There, I'm not even gonna lie. I, yeah, I'm so excited about
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the potential of using their veggies that I'm not really
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worried. Yeah.
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No, and I would understand shopped there too.
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It's just way different than our farmers market.
20:46
Well, I shouldn't say that that's not true.
20:47
Like our farmers market is huge. People come from different areas
20:50
to go. And like some of the stuff is
20:52
definitely pricey, but the veggies typically are like
20:55
pretty cheap. And you would think that your
20:58
farmers markets are amazing because you have so many farms
21:01
around there. They are in the summer.
21:03
So our farmers market is is phenomenal in the summer, but we
21:06
don't have it until the summer. So, yeah.
21:11
So this Park Ave. St. even like this breakfast
21:14
spot that we used to go to quite a bit when we visit, but Casey
21:17
and I went once while we were there.
21:18
It's just, it's so good. But like I feel like some of our
21:21
eating habits as a general like has changed and it's very heavy,
21:26
but still delicious. Yeah.
21:28
Rich, I should say. It's rich.
21:29
So Casey is like, I want to bring my brothers to Park Ave.
21:33
and we get down there. We're like, well, let's meet up
21:36
with them. So Bethany, Bobby and I bike
21:38
down there and we get there and they're like in Lululemon.
21:41
And Casey texts me and he's like, I'm in a shopping mood.
21:44
And that is literally not him at all.
21:46
Like he, he doesn't, he doesn't really care.
21:49
Like he cares what he looks like and stuff like that.
21:51
But he's like, I, I'm cool shopping at Target.
21:54
Like he doesn't need anything super fancy.
21:57
And I'm like, OK, he's like, do I need anything?
21:59
I'm like go off man. Like I don't know what you need
22:01
but like get what you want. Well, you were like, he's never
22:04
said this before. And what did I say?
22:06
I'm like, we're going to walk in and he's going to have probably
22:08
like one thing off of the sailrack and we we literally
22:12
walk in and he has like this swagger to and he's like what?
22:16
He's like walking like this. He's got this swag and what he
22:20
said it to you. He didn't even say it to me.
22:22
Like we walked in and what did he say to you?
22:26
I wanted to come. He's like, I wanted to come to
22:28
Park Ave. and shop because I wanted.
22:30
To I wanted to feel rich. To feel rich I.
22:35
Wanted to somebody because I don't know if this is just how
22:37
they wear the hats but I haven't seen him wear it this way since
22:40
y'all have been there or here and it was up a little.
22:44
It was how he. Wears it feel like broish, Yes,
22:46
very broish. Sunglasses on top.
22:48
He was like had a little swagger.
22:51
And then the other hilarious thing to me, when we were in the
22:54
farmers market, we were walking past this really cute like
22:58
flower stand. It was like on the back of 1/2.
23:02
What? Truck it was so.
23:04
Cute, a cute little old truck and we're walking by and he was
23:07
like, he was like, wow, this is so classy.
23:12
And I was like, Oh my God, I've got a flower truck.
23:18
It was so beautiful, but it literally looked like they went
23:20
and got Trader Joe's flowers and put it in their truck.
23:23
But this is so classy. He was, so I think he said it
23:27
twice and I was like, wow, you have been on Park Avenue a lot
23:31
of times because even when your brothers were here, each day I
23:34
feel like he took them there. Every day.
23:36
And it was so funny because the last day, so Casey was like
23:41
bringing his brothers to the airport.
23:42
And the last day, his younger brother was at Bethany and
23:46
Bobby's house. And Kaden goes, yeah, Casey
23:50
really likes Park Ave. because we're like, Casey, you're gonna
23:54
take him to Park Ave. again? Because they literally went
23:57
there every single day. Oh.
24:01
Wow. That's so funny.
24:02
It is like it's beautiful there, but like when you go there, it's
24:06
like you're walking around. You might be going into like one
24:09
shop or two. Like especially for what?
24:11
Like I will say that stores are probably targeted a little bit
24:16
to the more mature, yes generations.
24:20
Yeah. Oh my God.
24:21
Tell about Aunt Judy Jacket. Oh jeez.
24:25
OK, so. We've talked, hello, this is a
24:28
dog training podcast. Nothing.
24:30
Well, we we talked about Charlie had nothing to do with training,
24:32
but we talked about a dog. We might round back out, who
24:34
knows you never know. So I I've always been
24:37
self-conscious about not really knowing what styles to wear or
24:41
fashion to wear. Like I ask you a lot now for
24:44
advice. I did not when I bought this
24:46
jacket. I have some other friends that
24:48
I'm like, can you just pick something out for me because I
24:50
don't know what to get. I feel so overwhelmed.
24:53
So I go in because I'm like, OK, I'm I'd really like a jacket to
24:56
wear out if we got to dinner. When Kate and Casey are here.
24:58
We just went out to dinner with some friends and I wore this
25:00
Jean jacket, which is fine, but it's oversized.
25:03
I don't know. It just doesn't feel like you.
25:05
Just wanted something a little bit more like elevated.
25:07
Yes. So we go into this store that I
25:11
like on Park Ave. And I literally spend like an
25:15
hour trying on all of these different jackets and I come
25:18
across. That detail even.
25:21
Worse no, but I think I think I even told you and This is why
25:25
you should always just follow your gut and go with what you
25:28
like. I was thinking about what would
25:30
other people like on me or like what would someone else get.
25:33
That's your first channeling my 67 year old aunt.
25:36
I could think so this like rose mauve jacket.
25:45
It was like kind of like a bomber ish, but very structured
25:50
was slightly scratchy. But so I tried on in the
25:53
dressing room and I'm like, OK, this looks kind of elevated.
25:56
This looks like like I could go out somewhere at night and it
25:59
would, I don't know, maybe dress?
26:01
Up the outfit. Dress up the outfit.
26:02
Thank you. So get into the car and it's, it
26:07
was like over $100.00. So I was thinking also, it's
26:10
like an investment. And so I want to put a lot of
26:12
pressure on myself to not get one that I didn't really love.
26:15
I needed to love it. Loved it in the dressing room,
26:18
wore it out or I when I was checking out, this is what did
26:20
it for me too. And this also, it should have
26:23
been a sign and it also did it for me.
26:24
So paying for it and the lady's like, oh, you should just go
26:27
ahead and put it on. I was like, you're right.
26:28
I'm going to walk out, show my husband.
26:30
He's going to be so excited. Put it on.
26:32
The lady next to me is like, Oh, my gosh, it's such a great
26:34
jacket. I almost thought about getting
26:36
it. I think she was about 54, which
26:38
is fine. Yeah, she was really cute.
26:40
And I was like, great, this is the incentive I need so walk
26:47
out. And Bobby really has no opinion
26:49
about a lot of things. But he was like, yeah, it's
26:51
nice. He also knows how much pressure
26:53
I was putting on myself the last two weeks.
26:55
I was talking about jackets. Also be wearing a paper bag and
26:58
he'd think you are the most beautiful thing in the world.
27:01
That's not really something he prioritizes is like, I guess
27:04
what I'm wearing, but but he was like, yeah, it's nice.
27:08
So get in the car. Almost immediately the feeling
27:11
inside of me was this is not the right jacket because it
27:13
immediately I sit in the seat, it shifts upwards and.
27:22
You guys, if you're watching a video, she's giving us a
27:26
physical description. Up just a little, which felt
27:30
odd. It also is a little scratchy.
27:31
It's kind of like a letterman's jacket, but in rows.
27:34
I know. So I'm just thinking in my head
27:37
like, Oh no, like I was so excited about it.
27:39
So I was like, well, let me just get home and see what it's like.
27:42
But in the car I was slightly like, I didn't really love it.
27:45
I. Mean.
27:47
It was like slight, but I was also I was prioritizing the lady
27:50
in line. That felt really nice.
27:52
I'm I'm never really complimented on clothes that I'm
27:56
wearing outside of dog training stuff.
27:58
I don't know. I've been told like, Oh, that's
27:59
a cute outfit. But so anyway, and also I'm 40,
28:03
so I'm thinking I should, I should dress kind of mature, but
28:06
not old. Anyway, so, so then Fast forward
28:10
to Kate and Casey being here and I tell her, I tell you about my
28:16
jacket. You're like, go, you got to go
28:17
try it on. First of all, a couple days
28:19
before I showed you a purchase that I made which was wildly
28:22
stupid. She ordered.
28:25
OK, First off, she lives in Florida.
28:27
You guys the coolest. It's been like you guys have had
28:30
some cooler days, but like it won't get colder than that.
28:34
No, but once it's cold ish I'm like Oh my God I love cozy
28:37
clothes and I started following fashion influencers, which
28:41
there's so many. You should have one where it's
28:42
like you have a list of things on Amazon people can go buy or
28:46
whatever. Everyone in the brother does it
28:48
though. OK, I didn't know that so now I
28:50
do I follow. I need to unfollow them,
28:52
especially this one. She's I think like she's got to
28:55
be 5 one I'm 59. It's just not anyway, so she
29:00
recommended this really cute on her best.
29:05
I think she lives like in Minnesota or something.
29:06
That makes sense for where she lives her.
29:08
Demographic so I immediately hit.
29:10
They make it so easy to buy. Hit purchase it's like $30.
29:14
See, that's the problem with this kind of stuff though, is it
29:18
is a, it's just 30. So she's added in, added in, and
29:22
then it's like, OK, now I'm getting a bunch of things I
29:25
might wear once. Have you returned it?
29:28
No, it's actually so today on my list.
29:30
I was going to go yesterday. Yeah, yeah, you had a lot going
29:32
on. I also need to go out to
29:34
Abercrombie and return the jeans.
29:35
Yes, I need to get some different ones.
29:37
So anyway, it's it's on my list. I just have to go Whole Foods
29:40
and that's easy. So OK, so I buy that because I'm
29:43
like looks so cute on her. I get it.
29:45
I walk out with it on to show Kate who's in the kitchen and
29:48
her face. If you don't know this about
29:50
Kate, she can't really hide how she's feeling.
29:52
She'll be nice, but it's also. The best but worst like thing
29:56
about me. You can tell right away if she
29:59
doesn't like something so it looks ridiculous.
30:02
Even when I tried on I'm like OK, but you?
30:03
Came out and you're like, Oh my God.
30:06
Like you were immediately, like I could tell you were like
30:09
laughing at yourself. OK, I didn't like it.
30:11
My face was like, bueno, I don't think it's you and I'm whoops.
30:17
I thought it'd be so cute and cozy.
30:19
No, it just looks like I gave up on.
30:20
The IT did look it well, also the long side you put on it.
30:24
It was like beige on beige and it was just or like monotone
30:28
tones on monotone tones, which I mean, I'm all about neutrals,
30:31
clearly what I'm wearing right now, but it just was like,
30:34
you're so bright and like bubbly.
30:39
Then I'm like, are you OK? It made you look sad, it.
30:42
Was like brown. It was like Brown Cafe.
30:44
Very brown and then Bobby's like he's kind of looking at it like
30:52
he doesn't want to offend you, but then also he's like, when
30:55
are you going to ever where he's like, I don't think that's
30:56
that's you Pickles or something like that.
31:00
So this is what started the fashion.
31:03
Yeah, I don't know if it was the same day, but we were on the
31:05
back porch talking about the jacket.
31:07
Yeah. Like, go get it, come show it.
31:08
You get so excited about that stuff.
31:10
So it's like, Oh my gosh, yeah. So I come out.
31:13
I was nice about this one right away.
31:15
You were bad. I could also tell you were not
31:16
really into it. You were nice because.
31:18
I said I was. Saying it looks mature, so
31:21
that's like. It just looked way too mature on
31:23
you like it in a way where it's like you are mature and but I'm
31:27
like it's just it was just so not you.
31:29
And I think what sent me was I love a mauve and I love a rose,
31:33
but the buttons on it were like this like brushed nickel and I'm
31:39
like that respectfully, like I have a really.
31:42
She's my great aunt Izzy and she is like the best dressed like 85
31:49
year old and she's beautiful. She was a model in Paris when
31:52
she was like so it was like I could see her wearing that and
31:55
she like would look beautiful. But I'm like, you're 40.
31:58
It just it made you. It didn't it didn't scream full
32:02
of life Bethany. And I'm like, girl, I don't even
32:07
remember what I said, but I was just like, so then we started.
32:10
I was like, it kind of looks like maybe you borrowed it from
32:12
your Aunt Judy. And I don't get, I can't get
32:18
offended by stuff like this. Like I literally have.
32:20
I remember this memory so clearly when I was in, it was
32:24
after high school, so in college time, we were going out to a
32:29
club or something and I was dressed in like like a sweater
32:34
or something. And I wasn't like frumpy or
32:36
anything. I like dressing cute.
32:37
But for some reason, that night, I just wasn't really.
32:40
All the girls were like, running around doing all these things,
32:43
putting on cute stuff. And this girl, Ashley, I was
32:47
like, yeah, I just don't. I mean, I don't know.
32:48
I just want to be comfortable tonight.
32:50
And I was like, why don't you want to something, something.
32:53
And she was like, I think she yelled at me.
32:56
It's because you love yourself, Bethany.
32:58
And I was like, oh, OK, yeah. I mean, that's OK.
33:01
This memory is not coming out like I remember it, but it was
33:04
like because I don't know if that was true like she was.
33:07
Basically saying like dress yourself as if you love
33:10
yourself. I think she was saying like they
33:12
were running around, like feeling insecure about what they
33:15
were wearing. And I'm sitting over there just
33:17
like observing and like saying, oh, you look great and stuff
33:19
like that. And she was like, yeah, you
33:21
just, you're happy with how you look right now and that's great.
33:24
We are not that way right now. I.
33:25
Was like, I love that. I think that's great, but it's
33:29
like, what's that? I do like looking nice, I just
33:31
get self-conscious about my taste.
33:34
Yeah. And across the board you have
33:36
really good taste, like it was just that random couple, like
33:40
what? You were influenced and it
33:43
wasn't that kind of influence. Well, yeah, I was telling this
33:46
to Bobby when we were saying you were in the room.
33:49
But I remember when we first met and you were in head to toe
33:53
Lululemon and I was like, she is what I aspire to be one day.
33:58
I. Never knew this.
34:00
Oh my God, I thought you were the coolest.
34:02
Well, First off, I didn't know you were older than me.
34:04
Like I knew you had to have been a couple years older than me.
34:06
But as we've talked, you have just like this young, not
34:09
immature, but you have this essence of like you will be the
34:13
80 year old that's just like, you know, you're going to have
34:17
young neighbors next door that are like, I want to be like Miss
34:19
Bethany, like just like so young spirited, but not in a weird,
34:24
like I'm a child way. It's like just, yeah.
34:27
And that's very much how your dad was too.
34:29
Like just you could just feel like this, you know, energy of
34:34
like not being, I don't know, like I feel like some people
34:37
just get kind of like crotchety when they get older and like I
34:40
don't. Want to take this too seriously?
34:42
Like, this is adult thing. Well, got to pay the bills.
34:44
Like, that's just not you. And I love that about you.
34:47
So then, yeah. So I thought you were like
34:50
around my age. And I'm thinking, oh, my gosh,
34:52
She's like, at that point when we first met, like finances were
34:55
just so different for us. Like, I was 2425 when we met.
35:01
Wait, was I? Well, how old?
35:04
What year did we meet before 2018?
35:08
So probably 2017. 2017 because. 2018 is that picture I showed
35:12
you where we went to Akiva and you I think that was the first
35:15
time you came to visit and. What year was that, did you say?
35:17
2018. OK, Yeah.
35:19
So it must have been 2017. How old would I have even been
35:22
in 2017? I don't know.
35:23
I'm 33 right now. I'll be 34 next month.
35:25
But eight years ago, right? Yeah.
35:26
So I was. Yeah.
35:27
I was probably about 2526 when we met.
35:30
Yeah. And you guys were also, you
35:34
know, you were in your, you know, Bobby was working at the
35:37
other company and stuff and just like in a different position
35:40
then. But yeah, I remember thinking
35:42
like, she's so cool. She dresses head to toe.
35:44
Lou, I hadn't owned anything Lululemon yet.
35:47
My first Lululemon purchase was with you on Park Ave.
35:50
Oh yeah. Yeah, so I always thought like
35:54
you, we both do always wear athleisure.
35:56
So I always thought you always looked so well dressed and like
35:58
you knew how to like dress your body and stuff like that.
36:01
But like even just from like the years of like lifting and stuff,
36:04
like both of our bodies have changed.
36:06
So I think it's also like learning how to like dress
36:08
almost kind of like your new body type of thing because
36:12
you've never been like a wearing like really form fitting.
36:14
Then we went to Target and you put that white shirt on.
36:16
I was like, hello, you put that in the cart.
36:19
You are purchasing this you. Look, my boobs to be on display,
36:25
I bet that. They were as voluptuous as they
36:28
are. I never knew.
36:31
Like I knew you had some stuff under there, but when you got
36:33
the form fitting thing I'm like girl.
36:36
I have worn that. Big money for those.
36:39
I know I what was it the day after y'all left or I think it
36:43
was Monday and I went to the store and got stuff for soup
36:46
probably and other things and I was wearing that white top
36:50
underneath with jeans and a jacket and then when I got back
36:53
you. Were wearing jeans.
36:54
Well, it was cold. Oh, yeah.
36:56
Oh, yeah. I was trying to be cute, like
36:57
going to Publix. And so I came back.
37:01
I had my bomber jacket, which is a new jacket I got from Little
37:03
Lemon, which I loved. I kept thinking about, and you
37:07
love that one, so that's exciting.
37:10
But I came back, I took my jacket off and I was in the
37:11
kitchen and Bobby was like, Oh my God.
37:14
He's like Kate, has a great influence on you.
37:19
Well and then we both got this same workout top which is
37:21
hilarious. It looks so different on both of
37:23
us cuz we have no the pink tank top.
37:27
Oh yeah, Halter. Top, halter, top, it's like a
37:30
halter top workout. I love a workout top that like
37:33
can show the back, like top part of the back because I love
37:36
working Outback. So I'm like, it's just like, you
37:39
know, makes you feel good when you see muscles and you know,
37:41
when you're lifting. And we both tried it on and I
37:44
think that's the coolest thing. It was literally like, did you
37:46
watch the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants?
37:49
A long time ago, yeah. Like lively and in it and that
37:54
was like my age group watching that movie.
37:57
And it literally made me think like this could be the because
38:05
like our height difference, we just are completely different.
38:09
But it looked so cute on both of us, So we both got it.
38:12
And I'm like, Bobby's going to thank me for this one.
38:15
Oh yeah, I so so Kate and Casey went to go get massages and.
38:19
And so I put it on. Bobby was in his which is in our
38:22
house, his office working. I go out to work out, put it on
38:26
with some shorts. I take a picture and I sent it
38:27
to him and I'm. Like which I love that you did
38:29
that because you know, you're feeling, you're feeling
38:31
yourself. And I'm like, get go off, girl.
38:33
I love that. He came out again.
38:36
It's not that I like dress like in a trash bag every day when
38:39
I'm with him, but I love to be comfortable.
38:41
We've been married 15 years. Like you get to a point, but I
38:45
still, this has really shown me when we need to get dressed up
38:48
to go out because that was so fun when we went to Domu got
38:50
dressed. Yeah, so cute.
38:53
I love seeing like the guys get dressed up and like take care of
38:56
themselves too, even though it doesn't like take as long to get
38:59
ready. But I like you could tell like,
39:00
you know, even Bobby was probably thinking about his
39:02
outfit and. He got his beard trimmed, he
39:05
walked in. He was like a Kendall.
39:07
I couldn't believe it. Like a cute Kendall.
39:10
Not the Nerf penis Kendall anyway.
39:11
So, so out in the garage, Bobby Man is listening to this box.
39:16
If it is, it's probably our husbands, so it's fine.
39:20
And all, I used to play with Barbies so much up until I was
39:23
like in 6th grade, which is a little bit too long.
39:25
No who? Cares.
39:26
I couldn't tell anyone in 6th grade they make fun of me.
39:29
That's fine. Anyway, I love that look.
39:30
Forward to going home and doing it.
39:32
OK so I sent that picture. Bobby came out there and he was
39:36
like he started filming me working out.
39:40
Have like little videos. All right.
39:46
Nice. Yeah.
39:47
So that was fun. We're going to do a.
39:49
Split squat real quick, let me get give you a good angle to
39:53
work with. Yes, you're a very good
39:57
influence. I mean, there's so many.
39:58
Things you know, I made soup with so many vegetables when we
40:01
got home. Did you like it?
40:03
Loved. Did you use the miso?
40:05
Yes also if you ever which you can find me so I could not find
40:09
the type that you get like in that little tub.
40:12
I even like was searching it. I just went to the festival the
40:14
one down the street they had like that minute miso, but I
40:17
looked it up. I if it was still considered
40:20
white because it wasn't, it didn't say white anywhere on it.
40:22
And it did and it turned out really good.
40:24
But yesterday I found that Trader Joe's has white miso
40:27
paste. Yeah.
40:28
So I bought some done just have on hand for when I make it
40:33
again. But loved it.
40:35
The only thing which is when you wrote out the recipe, you forgot
40:38
to put the beans. Yes.
40:40
Did you think about it? OK, so I just had forgotten that
40:43
you put the beans in. So I was already making it.
40:46
And you know, for us, even though it's not super far, it's
40:49
not as quick for us to run to the grocery store.
40:51
So I'm like, no, I don't have any beans, but I made chicken
40:53
thighs to put in it. I actually put black beans in it
40:57
since it's kind of like a Taco style soup.
41:00
It was delicious. Yummy.
41:02
I did buy at the store yesterday for when I make it again the
41:05
northern beans like the yeah. They're really creamy.
41:08
Yeah, but the black beans were awesome, too.
41:12
Yeah, It tasted almost exactly the same.
41:14
Really. Yeah.
41:15
And then I couldn't. I wasn't sure, but it was when
41:17
you were having a rough day, so I didn't want to text you if it
41:21
was a full packet of Taco seasoning full.
41:24
So I did. I was just like, I'm going in
41:26
because and it ended up turning out perfect.
41:28
So hey, how? Fun.
41:31
OK, cool. Yeah.
41:33
So there's so many things that have we were saying like that
41:36
have happened over the three weeks that you were with us that
41:38
I forgot happened, you know, glad.
41:40
That we're also highlighting some of the hilarious fun stuff,
41:42
because I did feel like some of the heavier stuff kind of
41:45
happened on the tail end, like with the chickens and stuff, and
41:47
then like Charlie kind of acting weird in general.
41:50
So then when you told me that, like, he was really going
41:52
downhill, I just felt like, I almost felt terrible, like it
41:55
had nothing to do with us. But I'm like, I hope that the
41:58
like, you know, even though he had some of his moments where I
42:01
could tell you guys were getting a little annoyed with him, like
42:03
with his, you know, just being a little chaotic old man.
42:08
Oh no, I hope they're not thinking like, oh, we just had a
42:10
terrible three weeks with them or anything like that because.
42:12
Oh my gosh, no. Yeah, so I'm so glad that it's
42:16
happened the way it is. And you'll have to keep me
42:17
posted on Charlie Boy. Yeah.
42:20
Does Johnny miss me? Obviously.
42:22
Oh my gosh, 01 thing that I found interesting and you and I
42:25
were kind of talking about this on a walk the other day.
42:27
So I had another person ask me, I think I I don't know if I
42:30
posted some of my stories that like Bertie and Johnny were both
42:33
in or something, but like how does all your dogs get along?
42:37
The the question about that. And it's so interesting when I
42:40
go to answer that because I'm like great, but also they don't
42:43
get together and the only dogs that do is Bertie and Johnny and
42:47
Charlie would be able to as well.
42:49
But it's so interesting because it's like we put zero pressure
42:52
on like trying to get our dogs to be friends because it's like
42:56
a, we've got Rhody who is not dog social.
42:59
Like he's great with birdie, but no, that's not going to happen.
43:02
And there's Theo who like very much can be, but it takes him
43:05
time. He wants to be like dominant
43:07
dude in charge. So it's just like funny because
43:11
it's like it's literally we have 6 dogs between US and it's so
43:16
easy. People.
43:18
Hoover Freaking complicated. Well, that's got to be because
43:22
I, from our experience, like even like a example real quick
43:25
of just how people view dogs. Like yesterday at the vet I went
43:29
out to use the restroom and I was waiting for a guy who
43:32
flushed twice. Oh no.
43:35
So I was already so nervous and like what am I working Charlie?
43:38
And like jeez. OK, so I.
43:39
Can't handle a smell right now. No, so I look over and there's
43:43
this adorable little grey pity who looked like a mini 1 and he
43:49
was like a lot of times I think of pities as like this is not
43:54
the stereotype. It's just from experience of
43:55
being a little bit more hyper aroused.
43:57
Like they make like a whining noise sometimes when they're
44:00
really excited. And so just seeing he seemed
44:02
excited and the bet tech came over to take the leash.
44:06
He bit her hand and then kept going after her.
44:10
And the there were three people with their like, little dogs in
44:14
their laps next to me and they're like, oh, he's just so
44:16
excited. And it's just such a different
44:18
perspective. And I was like, whoa, we.
44:21
Were at the farmers market, like I found myself kind of being a
44:25
little bit on edge initially and I was like, oh, thank goodness
44:27
most of the people that are bringing at least maybe it was
44:29
just because it was that one time, maybe you've seen way
44:31
worse, but most of the owners except for a couple had really
44:34
good handle of their dogs at the farmers market.
44:37
Maybe. Like again, people that can't
44:40
bring their dogs, they're like leaving them home.
44:42
But the thing that I saw on all of those dogs, prong caller,
44:46
every single one that was like working great with their owner,
44:49
chill, like hanging out with them was, you know, their owner
44:52
had really nice control and communication with them.
44:55
But I have this little video of Birdie and Johnny.
44:58
I don't remember if I've sent. I have so many videos I've been
45:01
looking at. I'm like, I don't think I sent
45:02
all these to Bethany, so I'll like trickle them into your text
45:07
from day-to-day. Just as like a little mood
45:08
boost. There's this really cute one of
45:10
Johnny and Birdie just sitting with me at East End and they're
45:13
right next to each other and Johnny's nervous Birdie's like
45:17
I'm loving to be being here, but they're like directly next to
45:21
each other. No one's touching and they're
45:24
just like being and that's like kind of how they're like Johnny
45:26
would love if Birdie would play and like engage with him where
45:29
Birdie's just like, I'm seven. I'm not interested, but like,
45:32
let's hang. I love being around you.
45:34
I think that's really cool because I think that so many
45:37
people want their dogs to have BFFS.
45:39
And I get it. Like it is so cute.
45:40
Like watching Louis and Johnny play.
45:42
I'm like, that's so cute. But I love, I just love when
45:47
things feel peaceful between dogs and like this constant just
45:53
heightened energy. I've realized.
45:55
And again, like you said, it's probably from our experience.
45:58
I, I don't like it. Like I love having a group.
46:01
I think you asked me this, like, do you like having a group and
46:03
you can have them all socialize of of course, like when I have a
46:06
group of 6 boarding dogs or something back and I can put
46:09
them all out together and I know we're going to have zero issues.
46:11
They can tire each other out. It's great.
46:14
I like it in that context. Do I like it inside?
46:17
No, I want everyone to chill. Do I like it when one's getting
46:20
whiny in their crate because they want to like go out and
46:23
play with their buddies? No, I don't.
46:26
I. Don't have something like with
46:27
Birdie and Johnny. Johnny would go and like zoom up
46:30
to Birdie. But we knew and I was, I think
46:34
being hyper aware of Birdie probably doesn't like that kind
46:36
of energy. And so I would tell him no or
46:39
say his name to like, slow him down.
46:42
Yeah. Which most dogs, I think a lot
46:43
of people would probably just let their dogs kind of figure it
46:46
out. Like this is one thing with the
46:49
giant Cane Corso that I worked with Azula.
46:51
And she and I, I don't love this.
46:54
And this is something I talked about with her owner because I
46:56
think a lot of times people look at play time with dogs is like a
47:00
free for all. Just like let them, yes.
47:01
WWE. Yes.
47:03
And she was literally, she was giant and like galloping like
47:06
there was a horse in our backyard, which I don't mind
47:08
some play, but I also don't love like with our backyard, it can
47:13
just turn into a race track. And so it would be a lot more
47:17
where I would kind of have her slow down and be with the other
47:21
dogs. But I don't love, I don't love
47:23
the chaos. It makes me feel chaotic.
47:25
Yeah, and I also feel like it kind of gives dogs a just not
47:29
the greatest experience from standpoint of like we might be
47:32
able to allow that here with us or you might be able to allow
47:34
that with Johnny. But like I give, I feel like
47:37
that gives a lot of the dogs the precedent of like when I'm off
47:39
leash or out of command or off of place or out of my kennel
47:43
around dogs, I'm going, going, going, but otherwise I'm put in
47:47
command. I see that with there's a couple
47:51
of dogs that immediately come to my mind, and I've literally said
47:54
this to his owner as well, but Canon Steph's dog, he's very
47:57
much like that too, where it's like he just doesn't his his
48:02
it's either on and we're like, you know, going, going, going
48:05
when I see another dog, like even when he comes here, he
48:08
means so well, but he's just such a big dog that it's like he
48:10
needs to not be so intense every single time he's interacting
48:14
with the dog. Otherwise he has to be put into
48:17
into a command. And that's coming with age of
48:20
like maturity and stuff that can get a lot better.
48:23
But another dog that I think about is this big intact, still
48:28
young English lab. And again, people think lab so
48:32
friendly. So this but like you can be so
48:35
friendly. And also I've also told his
48:37
owner this. So for some reason she's
48:38
listening. You can also still be so rude
48:41
like. And so a lot of the times,
48:43
honestly, he's one that it's like he will not leave the
48:45
females alone. He's posturing the males that
48:48
like he gets put on the other side.
48:50
And it's just because it's like, this is not like this is not
48:53
conducive for anyone. Like, you're not interacting in
48:56
any sort of like, positive way. So I think that, like, sometimes
49:00
owners just need to like, like, give themselves a little message
49:05
that it's OK if my dog is just, like, not meant to be doing the
49:09
WWE with other dogs. Yeah, just permission that your
49:13
dog doesn't have to do that. I'm sure that's awkward with
49:15
because I have friends who have dogs and their dogs are not
49:18
trained. It's like, I know I've brought
49:20
over this was a long time ago, one of our dogs and I also
49:25
noticed things other people don't notice like I know you do
49:28
where some things to someone else can look really playful.
49:31
Where to me it's like, oh, that can escalate quickly to do
49:34
something bad that I don't want. And it's like when I take
49:37
owners, we part of my go home sessions are outside the dog
49:41
park. Sometimes it makes me so anxious
49:43
because especially on the weekend it's super busy and.
49:47
There's a lot of things you can't control.
49:49
Yes, where I think, I wonder if other trainers do that too where
49:53
I mean I see a lot of where dogs are being social, but it doesn't
49:56
mean a free for all. It's like totally more
49:59
structured. That's really what I try to keep
50:01
it here. You know, Of course it's fun to
50:04
post the stories of like one chasing the other.
50:07
But then I also try to very much like bring everyone back down to
50:10
life of like, hey, if you see your dog doing this here and
50:13
maybe it's like a dog that's really reactive on leash, but
50:15
you know, with their owners has a little bit harder of a time.
50:18
It's like it's OK also if their only time to really do that is
50:22
here at Auntie Kate's house. Like I tried to tell them like,
50:24
you know, we have such a controlled setting out there.
50:26
The dogs also are going to respond differently.
50:29
And obviously that's why we're not a fan of going inside the
50:33
dog park. But yeah, I just feel like a lot
50:36
of people, not a lot. A couple of people had asked me
50:39
like, how do all your dogs do together?
50:41
And it just like really stemmed like a thought in my head of
50:44
like, I don't even put any thought on it, if that makes
50:47
sense, like. It just seems normal, like just.
50:49
Yeah, and like we can take any of the dogs out and go walk them
50:52
together and it's non issue. Rhody did have, which was kind
50:58
of funny but also like annoying. He had a little moment, which
51:01
obviously you know, this of when we were walking, I had Roadie,
51:05
you had Johnny and I feel like you might have had another dog
51:07
with or maybe it was just Roadie and Johnny.
51:10
And Johnny gives off this little like he's playful but also a
51:14
little insecure. So if you're walking behind him,
51:17
he does a lot of like, looking back.
51:19
And that's like, Roadie's like trigger, like, dude, you're 11,
51:24
get over it. But like, it always had been,
51:27
like doesn't like when a dog's like looking, it's because
51:29
Roadie's also insecure. So Johnny's like, you know,
51:33
we're walking behind you guys. And I could tell Roadie was
51:36
getting a little like, like, why does he keep looking back here?
51:40
And then Johnny went to go potty and then got like a little
51:42
Zoomie next to you. And then Roadie's like, whoa.
51:45
And like tries to go at the end of his leash.
51:46
I'm like, are you kidding me, dude?
51:48
Get get over here. But it was like 3 seconds and
51:52
then no big deal. And we're both like over it.
51:54
I know some people, some owners would probably be like, Oh no,
51:56
like that's a huge set back. Like it's just like whatever,
52:00
he's having a feeling about something.
52:01
We moved on. We kept on with our walk like.
52:04
Yeah, that reminds me of, I mean, Azul is just the most
52:07
recent dog I worked with and her owner texted me, she's been
52:12
texting me some updates and it's just the reality of having dogs
52:16
if they've been through training or not.
52:18
And she was like, because I love the saying it's feedback, not a
52:22
set back. So most owners see something
52:25
like that happen and they're like, Oh no, like we're going to
52:27
go back to how it was before and does all the work, which is just
52:31
not true. And so she texted me.
52:35
Azula had one of her worst outbursts at a dog the other
52:39
day. She's been doing so great
52:40
otherwise. And she was like, but I just
52:42
remembered or she didn't say that she was like, but I took
52:46
note of what went wrong. It, it was something that I
52:48
think I didn't pay attention to, to be better for the next time.
52:51
And I was like, that's great. That's that's what it's all
52:53
about. That's why I tried to remind
52:55
because, you know, you were saying that Azul is probably 1
52:57
of like the most reactive dogs you've seen in a while.
53:00
And I feel like I work with a lot, a lot of reactive dogs.
53:05
And I tell owners I'm like, they will go home and like still
53:08
react. And there will be a moments of
53:10
reactions, especially with some of them that I'm like, if I have
53:13
to be so on you, I know they're going to go home and struggle
53:15
with their owners is like, and I get that they reach out to us
53:19
for the things they feel like they need support on.
53:21
And that's totally fine. But I think sometimes it's like
53:24
just reminding yourself to like not put as much weight on that
53:28
one feedback or set back that happened and like, remember
53:32
that. OK, you've had also thirty walks
53:35
that have been amazing or been really good or had like, you
53:39
know, a little bit of like, oh, extra arousal, but you were able
53:41
to address for the arousal and they did so well.
53:45
But I do get what it feels like when you do have like a big
53:47
reaction again, you feel like, Oh no, like it's going to all
53:50
just like, you know, unravel and things are going to go terribly.
53:54
But, and again, that comes with us doing this for so long
53:57
because I think back to young Kate who was struggling with
54:00
Roadie when I first had him and it was like everything felt like
54:04
we're never going to make progress.
54:06
And even though he's not a perfect dog, like I mean, he's
54:08
perfect to me. But I'm like life now is just so
54:12
freaking easy. And it has been for years now.
54:16
And so I think when I say that, like reminding myself it's or
54:19
reminding people of that, it's probably 'cause I'm reminding
54:21
myself if that's what what I felt like years ago.
54:24
Yeah, well, it just seems like you don't have as much pressure
54:26
on. Zero pressure.
54:28
Yeah, it's, which is so different.
54:30
Well, even the fact that when we went and walked to get coffees,
54:34
I don't remember if we talked about on our first podcast with
54:36
this really cute place that's near Bobby and Bethany's house,
54:40
we walked to almost every day for either poke or coffee.
54:43
And Rhody came with us twice. And like, I've not in years put
54:48
pressure on him to be a patio dog.
54:50
So even when we were walking there on a Sunday, I said to
54:53
Casey, I'm like, hey, if it's like super busy or there's a
54:54
bunch of other dogs or a bunch of little kids because I get
54:56
nervous with like a lot of I shouldn't say this, but like, I
55:00
don't know if parents are putting the teaching their kids
55:03
boundaries that I don't go up to stranger dogs and stuff.
55:06
So I just get nervous. And I said to Casey, I'm like,
55:09
hey, if you need to like stay back here, I'll run in to get
55:11
coffee. And luckily it was quiet and
55:13
like Rhody did so good, but it was also because it was a
55:17
situation where he could, there wasn't a bunch of dogs around.
55:19
There wasn't a lot going on, but it was really nice having like a
55:24
couple of times where it's like I really felt like a dog owner.
55:26
That was like full circle. When Kate at 23 got roadie
55:30
really wanted him to be something that he wasn't.
55:34
But then it was really cool at Kate at 33 having him do
55:38
something that it would have been 100% fine with me if he
55:41
didn't. But then he was able to do it
55:44
successfully and enjoyably that it was like, it felt cool.
55:47
Like I'm like, OK, I get it. While my owners like still kind
55:51
of put that pressure on themselves and their dogs at
55:53
times because it does feel cool, it does feel good.
55:55
But I can tell you from experience, it feels better
55:58
going into a zero pressure and it happening than putting
56:02
pressure on it and muscling through it because I've been
56:05
there as well. I'll never forget like there was
56:07
a couple of times where we literally muzzled up roadie, put
56:11
an in training vest on just to go like do a dinner with him out
56:15
on a patio to say we did it and like.
56:19
I know. Oh my God.
56:21
I just think there's so much pressure for, I feel like a lot
56:24
of owners, and I think we've both been there because I've
56:25
been there with Louis. When you first were visiting.
56:28
Yeah. It was like she was a reflection
56:30
of me. Yeah, it's like a reflection of,
56:33
and I think that's just from not being immature, but like being a
56:38
newer dog owner and feeling like you have to prove yourself.
56:41
And we're also trainers and like there's that added pressure
56:44
where I really think with owners it's if their dog is reactive or
56:48
whatever, or they can't take their dog to the farmers market
56:50
when their friends are taking their dogs.
56:51
It's like a reflection of a lack of just.
56:55
That's not how it is, But I think you kind of have to go
56:57
through that to realize that. And like, I think that looking
57:01
at it is like the reflection of you.
57:03
Yes and no. Like Louis, I will say, is a
57:06
reflection of you guys. And I think that's in a good way
57:09
because she's come so far in the years that I've met her and it
57:13
feels so much less pressured. Like when I first visited, she
57:17
was obviously very uncomfortable with me, but like, you wanted me
57:21
to walk her. You wanted her to be out.
57:24
You wanted her to be a part of things, which I also was
57:26
encouraging of it. I'm like, I'm more than happy to
57:28
walk her. I'm more than happy to do those
57:30
things. Do I think the reality of that
57:32
though? I really didn't.
57:33
Oh, you didn't want to? Well, I think I felt so I'm
57:37
always I'm very indecisive in most of my life, but times when
57:41
I'm, I think I make decisions is when I'm feeling like I, I put
57:46
pressure on myself that because you're so good about being like,
57:50
Hey, let's take her and like I can walk her and which was so
57:54
great. I would have loved for her to be
57:56
behind a gate so I don't have to.
57:57
There didn't have to be any moments of.
58:01
Uncertainty embarrassing me. Yeah, yeah.
58:03
With that, again, I took it so personally as a reflection for
58:06
me or wasn't a good enough trainer and now growth, yeah, I
58:10
think that's. Pop her away or like.
58:13
If she, yeah, it's no big deal. It's if she, if anything, where
58:16
it's like she's showing any sort of like because initially it
58:19
always takes her a little bit longer to warm up to Casey.
58:20
This time was like so amazing. Like it's like.
58:23
I didn't have a human we. Both like we both love Louie.
58:27
Like I know we were talking about this because Johnny
58:29
obviously well is your favorite, but like also you love all your
58:33
dogs so much. But like Casey and I both we
58:36
love all your dogs, but we really like Louie.
58:38
I think it's because she showed us so much of her sweet side and
58:41
like so into us this time, which was so cute.
58:45
But like, even sometimes when she is just like barking, like
58:48
sees Casey and barking, you guys like, all right, like, let's
58:51
just put the dog away. And it's like not a the dogs are
58:55
in trouble. It's just like a we don't want
58:56
to deal right now. And I love that.
58:59
I love seeing my owners get to that too.
59:00
It's like, you know, having people come over for a holiday
59:04
party. Your dog doesn't need to be out.
59:06
My dogs aren't out. Like Roadie's not surprising,
59:09
but even Birdie, who clearly we can let her into the room of all
59:13
the trainers that the trainer knew, she's an attention hog.
59:16
She gets distracting. So then it's like, OK, you're
59:19
done. Like and she is a food hound.
59:21
So like a lot of times I don't want her out for like scavenging
59:25
or whatever. So it's just I love seeing my
59:29
owners get to that as well. Not in a way of like just go put
59:32
your dog away, but also kind of go put your dog away.
59:35
Yeah, yeah. They are.
59:36
It's OK. It's.
59:37
OK, like, so many people are doing so much with their dogs,
59:40
which is amazing. But I think it's also that,
59:42
like, so many people are either working from home or, you know,
59:45
around more, so they have this pressure.
59:47
Like their dog needs to constantly be entertained and
59:48
constantly be a part of something.
59:50
And there's a reason we see a lot of anxiety these days.
59:55
But yeah, I think that when owners can kind of like step
59:57
into that, like I'm gonna give my myself permission to.
1:00:02
I kind of trust my gut in certain situations and like not
1:00:05
need it to be something that might be more Instagram worthy,
1:00:10
then it's OK. Yeah.
1:00:13
And I think that's just kind of it's part of growth, you know,
1:00:15
going through things and then also seeing, like when you
1:00:17
pointed out, like she is a great reflection of you where I was
1:00:20
only focused on the negative stuff.
1:00:22
Yeah. It's like, you know, when you're
1:00:24
shopping for a red car and then you see red cars everywhere,
1:00:26
like what you focus on is so powerful.
1:00:29
And so for owners and their dogs and for us and our dogs, I think
1:00:33
you kind of have to go through that of feeling those feelings
1:00:36
of feeling overwhelmed and like, Oh no, am I doing this right?
1:00:38
Because then it kind of leads to let me try some different things
1:00:42
or listen to a podcast and pick up something new.
1:00:44
And hopefully we can help reassure you that we've been
1:00:47
there, we know what it feels like.
1:00:48
And now being on the other side where you're more accepting of
1:00:51
who your dog is and then kind of seeing the quirks is not
1:00:54
validation that you're doing something wrong.
1:00:56
But really just all dogs are so different.
1:00:58
It's like people like, like we're so different.
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Our personalities, we have so much in common, but and that's
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kind of what makes it so special.
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Totally. Yeah.
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Well, I am so happy that we are checking in with better news.
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Like, obviously you know, he's still your 14 year old boy, but
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if it means that he's feeling good and cozy, yeah, that's all
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that matters. And that you guys are feeling a
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little less like whiplash. Y Holy crap.
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Yeah, thank you. Y'all are so sweet, so nice
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having friends we can share this with and who know him really
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well. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, I'm so excited.
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Elouise and Chris are on their way.
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They're coming to visit us for a couple of days and then we're
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back at it. I did end up moving dogs up
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since we aren't in Florida, but it's actually going to work out
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really, really great because we have a ton of boarding dogs over
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spring break because of course people want to leave Wisconsin.
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So moved up some of the training dogs so that it's not going to
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be as heavy in the mid March, which I'm happy about so I bet.
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You're excited to get back in the swing of.
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Pants, yeah, definitely. And especially if it is going to
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be a little bit chillier. We're supposed to have
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tomorrow's supposed to be like 50 something, but it helps me
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stay moving and going outside having dogs here because if not
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like I would love to stay in my house and not do a whole lot.
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But really I yes, in the cold, like I will do like my walking
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pad, But I do find that I don't go outside as much and being
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outside for me is medicine. So I with this kind of weather,
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I do have to kind of like force myself because it's, it's great
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today. It's we're.
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Great. Outside, yeah.
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There were such good influences with getting us outside
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yesterday. I literally went over to this.
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I started pulling down the shades and I was looking at
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Bobby like, uh oh, I know I haven't been doing this but I
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really need some like cozy dark vibes.
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But then I have been getting outside more.
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Good, good. I love that.
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And I saw that you took Louis on a bike ride, which is so cute.
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I did. I took her and Bonnie the other
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day to that big field. Yeah, love that.
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Yeah. Good.
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All right. Well, I'm going to go get ready.
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You know what I mean?