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#156 - Big K.R.I.T. · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Boulet Cap Show special guests in here. One of the
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  Speaker 1: greatest rappers of all time. We got a good day
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  Speaker 1: of rappers. Crooked Eye was here this morning. Crookedized one
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  Speaker 1: of them guys. Definitely definitely welcome man, Big Crick, that's good, bro.
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  Speaker 1: You were telling me we just left this Girl Talk
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  Speaker 1: you we're gonna get to your album, but you wiz
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  Speaker 1: smoked this Girl Talk. This album kind of came out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere. I'm not even gonna lie here. Definitely did it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but we worked on it in twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 1: and it's just crazy. The time and the music. It
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  Speaker 1: just makes a lot of sense right now too. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's back outside. These are all my brothers, and we've
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  Speaker 1: been rocking with each other for years from the jump. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that shit was just so organic, bro, Like it
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  Speaker 1: was we literally one day in the studio, Girl Talk
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  Speaker 1: had all the crazy ass beats to the point where
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  Speaker 1: once we did it, Girl Talk did all the mixing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, arranged everything secrets. And I literally just heard
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  Speaker 1: the album last week. That's crazy, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: and I trust the homiecause I know he's very meticulous
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  Speaker 1: with music, and so I'm hearing the breakdown of the
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  Speaker 1: song I got on there and I'm like, damn, you
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  Speaker 1: chopped the fuck out of the beat, and I'm listening
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  Speaker 1: to it for the like, oh shit, you got a
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  Speaker 1: different appreciation too as a producer. Yeah, yeah, you guys
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  Speaker 1: dis a whiz in yourself. I feel like all kind
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  Speaker 1: of will be kind of somewhat tied together forever, just
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  Speaker 1: based on and currency obviously, but just based on the
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  Speaker 1: Smokers Club on obviously, the records early on in Christian
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  Speaker 1: Orange Juice, Cushion, Orange Juice and the Glasshouse and all that. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like this is a kind of a nostalgic
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  Speaker 1: project for guys like myself who missed that era of
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  Speaker 1: hip hop what we like to call maybe the early
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  Speaker 1: blog era, early blog era. What Like, I guess for you,
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  Speaker 1: what was your thought process in saying like, yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is this feels cause you know, Wiz has got to
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  Speaker 1: like going on, You gotta like going on. This is
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  Speaker 1: doing a whole lot of shit. He's doing weed, he's
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  Speaker 1: on podcasts, the albums, everything I heard that you guys
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  Speaker 1: did this in one day, yeah, one session, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: then everybody else had solo records with Girl Talk before that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure, and that gave us the opportunity to have
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  Speaker 1: our own, like individual songs. But I think, man, it
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  Speaker 1: was for me it was a breath of fresh air.
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  Speaker 1: It was the kind of album where not only did
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  Speaker 1: we not expect to do it, and we just fucking
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  Speaker 1: got into like, oh, this is gonna come out crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but not having the pressure of it thinking about it
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  Speaker 1: like it's a label album kind of thing or all
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  Speaker 1: you gotta be very calculated. We was like, fuck it,
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  Speaker 1: we're making jam and ass music and then put it
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  Speaker 1: together and it's out now, you know. And for me,
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  Speaker 1: I needed this opportunity with the homies too, because it
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  Speaker 1: just reminds me of why I even do it and
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  Speaker 1: when I started in the field of that and we
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  Speaker 1: as being the first person I even went on tour with,
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  Speaker 1: you know, back in twenty ten. So it's like, man,
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  Speaker 1: we it's a different kind of you know, family friendship,
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  Speaker 1: especially in this music industry. That Bro, we came together
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  Speaker 1: the mace of jam shit literally just had fun. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Which tour was the twenty ten tour Chrishion Orangeices that
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  Speaker 1: was the original Cushion Oranges stead Bro. I literally, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we was out there, you know, you were like like
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  Speaker 1: when you when you hear a record like glass House
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  Speaker 1: and like kind of like when we think back to
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  Speaker 1: like maybe how important that record was and how it
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  Speaker 1: kind of just helped it really kind of I think
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  Speaker 1: it helped everyone out. And it's such a cultural like
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  Speaker 1: I think of one train, right, that's another one of those. Definitely,
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  Speaker 1: I think a glass House is like one of those
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  Speaker 1: as well. It just kind of encapsulated that time period
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  Speaker 1: in south By Southwest, south By Southwest, free mixtapes, bucket Man,
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  Speaker 1: do every show you can standing on you know, not
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  Speaker 1: even on the stage, just freestyle and sit in the street.
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  Speaker 1: How often you go back and listen to that record?
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  Speaker 1: And like what memories is that record given? You bring
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  Speaker 1: a lot of memories people. People won't you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: to perform that song, I don't You're the best. You
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  Speaker 1: had the best verse on that rackd I mean, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, you know, I appreciate that. But for me,
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  Speaker 1: it was just like I think respectfully, they know, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: I will say the way that record came about and
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  Speaker 1: then what happened with my career after was because the
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  Speaker 1: Homies was definitely not only crushing it, but Cushion Orange
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  Speaker 1: Juice was I mean, I think it was about to
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  Speaker 1: come out and just the excitement behind everybody and kind
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  Speaker 1: of be a new artists and we were getting our
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  Speaker 1: own separate deals, and the doing that record put me
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  Speaker 1: put my name in front of a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't aware of what I was doing, because was
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  Speaker 1: Glasshouse before Creit was here? Yeah, I think Glasshouse we
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  Speaker 1: did that twenty ten March. I think Cruiser came out
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  Speaker 1: in April or May. I was about to say it
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  Speaker 1: felt like it was like a like right before, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And so that that put me in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people cars and me, who is this motherfucker? And then
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  Speaker 1: between the beat because even the kind of track I
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  Speaker 1: don't the homies wouldn't necessarily always rap on that kind
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  Speaker 1: of kind of thing too. And so after that, going
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  Speaker 1: on tour, being able to perform that with Wiz in
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  Speaker 1: the currency just kind of kept putting my name out
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  Speaker 1: there up until we did a two thousand Living Double
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  Speaker 1: x CeAl cover. That's when people really saw who I was,
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  Speaker 1: because I wouldn't even put my face on covers and
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  Speaker 1: ships didn't know what the fuck I looked like. That's real.
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  Speaker 1: You were kind of you were a little key early on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and so you your face wasn't on any
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  Speaker 1: of the artwork, very very just the brand create name.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember going out on the road with Wiz
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  Speaker 1: and then Black and Yellow had took off while he
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  Speaker 1: was on the road and just I was living in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: I think that ship was so crazy, bro, and the
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  Speaker 1: energy and I know it was still thousands people didn't
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  Speaker 1: know idea who the fuck I was, but it definitely
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  Speaker 1: gave me opportunity a platform to get new fans. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was That was a moment. Black and Yellow was
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  Speaker 1: one of the macas like oh it's got one now,
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  Speaker 1: Like okay, at the one one the ones here because
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  Speaker 1: before that I was like okay, he's up next. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but once you catch one of them, that shit took off. Bro. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if it put you in a different sphere, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I what I also appreciate is I actually recently got
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  Speaker 1: to purchase crit was here on vinyl. Hey we thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I was out a MEBA and I was surprised to
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  Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, and I was like, wait a minute, shit,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a bootlegger. I hope not,
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  Speaker 1: but no, I mean, it was just amazing to be
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  Speaker 1: able to have that out on streaming platforms for people
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  Speaker 1: to listen to it. Now, I was gonna say, like,
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  Speaker 1: I know that was an uphill battle. I mean, because
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  Speaker 1: you wanted. It's not only sample clearances, I mean and
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  Speaker 1: me is also the thought process behind not wanting it
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  Speaker 1: to sound, not wanting to lose clean it up too much,
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  Speaker 1: wanting people still get that same feel. Some records didn't
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  Speaker 1: make it, you know, something that had to change, But
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  Speaker 1: it's still a blessing man, all these years to be
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  Speaker 1: able to put that out and people actually wanted to listen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just happy that I don't have to go to
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  Speaker 1: that PIF anymore. Yeah ah yeah on YouTube and it
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  Speaker 1: cut off after the YouTube is the worst. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, but no, we out here man, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just to have a catalog is a beautiful thing, too,
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  Speaker 1: Broder and you have a catalog, I was like, over
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  Speaker 1: four hundred fucking songs. You have four hundred songs on
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  Speaker 1: DSP to got to do at this point, that makes sense? Yeah,
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: so how many albums officially? Now that teen ten albums? Wow? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think Mina will stay ten. Yeah. So and in
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  Speaker 1: still having the hunger to do this. That's not even
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  Speaker 1: including the little EPs you dropped like four years ago,
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  Speaker 1: freestyle ships and all that, all the features combined, definitely
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of music out here with features combined
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  Speaker 1: your over four hundred year wild Now. Yeah, here's a
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  Speaker 1: song I recently, uh just came up on my YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I was just listening to music and
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  Speaker 1: it was the fullest ship record you did with Oh
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  Speaker 1: yeah Yellow. Yeah that record is disrespectful. Verse on that
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  Speaker 1: song is so I'm like, bro, if you dropped this
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, you're getting Yeah, but that ship
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  Speaker 1: was damning for what the time period? But no, we can't. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they got that shit, gotta stay back there. The hook
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  Speaker 1: alone is just yes, I guess I'm full. Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's real. Let's talk about digital roses don't die, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Love the title thank You. I think it fits the
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  Speaker 1: vibe of this project. You've dabbled with some funky shit
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  Speaker 1: in the past, but I feel like with this album
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  Speaker 1: you fully committed to just a different vibe than when
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  Speaker 1: we get in the car and press play on a
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  Speaker 1: Crest album. Yeah, where's your head? Where's your head out?
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  Speaker 1: When you're making this project and it sounds amazing. I
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  Speaker 1: think you executed it amazingly. Thank you. I mean, for me,
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't want to drop an album coming out
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  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty twenty twenty one that sounded like what
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  Speaker 1: people know me for. I wanted to change and show
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  Speaker 1: the kind of growth not only I've gotten mentally, but
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  Speaker 1: musically and grounded and comfortable like I it's okay for
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  Speaker 1: me to make a funky record or sing on my
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  Speaker 1: entire You sound great singing many bas you sound good.
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  Speaker 1: Not too much? Yeah, who isn't using tunes? Let's be honest,
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  Speaker 1: but a little fucker's using tune on the rapping verses.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing was too bro, It's like you can't.
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  Speaker 1: There's nobody the feature for you in your life. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So been writing this album, it's like if it's a
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  Speaker 1: love album, the only two voices that you hear constantly
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  Speaker 1: is me and this amazing singer named Roland, right, and
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  Speaker 1: it's this back and forth for me and this woman
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  Speaker 1: kind of relationship thing. And so records like Generational way Down,
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  Speaker 1: It's my story, is how I feel. So despite how
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  Speaker 1: many notes I might hit this bed, I have to
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  Speaker 1: sing this because it's how it's I wrote it, and
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  Speaker 1: it's it's my personal experience. And so starting to think
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  Speaker 1: about music like that kind of changed how I even
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  Speaker 1: approach your album at this point, right. And it's amazing
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  Speaker 1: that the Girl Talk album is coming out because I
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  Speaker 1: get to be young spirits, you know, maybe people that
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  Speaker 1: missed that Glass House Country ship for myself, and that's cool,
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  Speaker 1: But that was in my twenties. You know, I'm in
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  Speaker 1: my thirties and I'm supposed to grow, and your fans
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  Speaker 1: are growing, manah, I mean, shit, they got kids, most
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  Speaker 1: of them facts, you know what I'm saying. Or they
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  Speaker 1: then went through the college experience and they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: get they house, you know, and how many I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you're thinking twenty ten was doing, I mean that's
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  Speaker 1: twelve years. Yeah, but I started. My first part just
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  Speaker 1: came out in two thousand and four. That's crazy, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so I've been I've done
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  Speaker 1: that and I've been in eighteen years. Yeah bro, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: first beat ever made was in nineteen ninety nine, so
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  Speaker 1: this is two thousand and one. I dropped my first
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  Speaker 1: mixtape in my city. It Lily was twenty one years ago. Yeah, yep.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like I've been doing it to be able
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  Speaker 1: to be as vulnerable as I was on this album,
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  Speaker 1: to make a record like more than Roses and have
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  Speaker 1: that flu the dude killed it. That was the closest
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  Speaker 1: thing I've ever got to making something really Hutch would
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  Speaker 1: make something, and I just felt that way, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and to me, that's what I do this for, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta challenge myself. It just gave me like a
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  Speaker 1: really like timeless feel like this shit will live in
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  Speaker 1: like ten years. It could have lived in nineteen seventy eight.
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  Speaker 1: It could actually and if you go with it, if
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  Speaker 1: you're in a relationship, it's something in this album that's
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  Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, you might be you might not be
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  Speaker 1: with it now, but you don't worry. You'll go. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go through one of these motherfucker tracks, you know. No.
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  Speaker 1: I love the title too, just like because we live
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: in a world in which everything is digital, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: what was your motivation to that digital? Roses don't die?
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  Speaker 1: There was two different perspectives. The first one was the
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  Speaker 1: fact that we document our relationships in a sense, and
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  Speaker 1: even if you're not with that person, that stuff is
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  Speaker 1: still out there to sea still on the Internet. They
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  Speaker 1: could bring you down or it can encourage you, depending
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  Speaker 1: on how you feel. I didn't think that. But in
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  Speaker 1: the grander scheme, we've been digital way longer than when
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  Speaker 1: we think. My dad showed me a picture of my
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: sent me a picture of my grandparents when they were
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  Speaker 1: super young together, and then I'm looking at this and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a digital rose. You know, neither
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  Speaker 1: one of my grandparents are here, but this has been
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  Speaker 1: passed down from generation to generation and now I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get to pass it down to my kids as well.
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  Speaker 1: So this is way bigger than it just being the Internet.
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  Speaker 1: This is your own personal experience and journey being documented
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  Speaker 1: and people get to look back at it, and it
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  Speaker 1: goes from not only the people in the picture, but
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: who took the photo, what was happening during that time,
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Iron period. You know, we're seeing pictures of people that
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: deal with the Spanish fluid and mask. Everybody saw that.
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  Speaker 1: Now we we we got photos like that, we got
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  Speaker 1: we got documented time. We're gonna be like, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: living we're living in history right now. We don't even
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  Speaker 1: realize it because we're in it. Like, man, what the
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  Speaker 1: fuck are they wearing from now, we're going to look
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  Speaker 1: back and be like, y'all remember crazy then two years
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  Speaker 1: were crazy, And so for me, it's just about expressing
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  Speaker 1: it and wanting people to really take heed and document
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  Speaker 1: and and give those roses today to each other. Now
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: it's very important. I'm glad you did this collab project
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  Speaker 1: because we've always been teased with you doing collab projects
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  Speaker 1: as artists and they've never happened. You and Yellow the
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  Speaker 1: Country cousins, and then me and Saw I had a
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: conversation and you and so Highway did. I don't know
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: who would out wrap too, but that would have been like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he's a he's a monster. That would have been
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: like spy versus spy. He's a monster. So it's and
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  Speaker 1: but these this, this, this kind of gave me the
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  Speaker 1: confidence moving forward to like, I listen listen lab more
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  Speaker 1: because it's if for me, it's I have to let
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  Speaker 1: go of the rains a little bit too. Not wanting
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  Speaker 1: to produce. I'm gonna say, because you handle so much
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  Speaker 1: of the creative process for all of your music, I
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  Speaker 1: feel back this time. I mean it was a collective
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  Speaker 1: off fort us being in the studio so we trust
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  Speaker 1: each other's cook writing capabilities. We know who verse will
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  Speaker 1: sound better first or second. You know what I'm saying, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even need to be on that song. That's
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  Speaker 1: all you broke as you snapping and having that kind
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: of confidence in your skill. That's what makes the album
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  Speaker 1: jamming because we know we're all gonna snap, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's real. Yeah, if you uh,
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  Speaker 1: you're one of the you know, there's some great producers
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  Speaker 1: slash artists. Obviously Kanye J. Cole don't get enough love
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  Speaker 1: for that. Ja Cole was he don't produce as much
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  Speaker 1: as he used to. It's taxing too, though, Bro, when
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  Speaker 1: you sitting there having to make the beat right the hood,
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  Speaker 1: you know, do the verse, it's a challenge. I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: what was it? The last was it? The last album
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  Speaker 1: was the first time you kind of totally were like
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  Speaker 1: it is here. I was like, Yo, you were like
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  Speaker 1: one record now Blue Flame Ballet, which was see but
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  Speaker 1: I was still I was letting people know that was
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  Speaker 1: a great fucking record, like that I'm gonna go this way,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but and that. But even working with them
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  Speaker 1: showed me that it's ways of me trying to work
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  Speaker 1: on music that I don't have to stick with samples
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  Speaker 1: anymore or even the idea of it. So if you're
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  Speaker 1: listening to digital roses don't die. There's no samples. And
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like producing an album like this
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  Speaker 1: where there's live instrumentation, you talked about bringing in a
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  Speaker 1: food player. Yeah, that's got to add a different element
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  Speaker 1: to just your whole process. That's gotta be kind of fun. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it was fun, But then it's it's also makes it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult, right, I'm about to say,
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  Speaker 1: but it's scary because you funk off and goes so
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: like it's like that thousand digitals thing. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this in and put this in, spending
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  Speaker 1: months on a record and a little bit more expensive
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  Speaker 1: to then play it for people and they don't get
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: what the fuck you where you're going with it? Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this risk, and that's and then and
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  Speaker 1: I took it. I really took that risks because I
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  Speaker 1: remember even when I did the the record show you, right,
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  Speaker 1: they went through so many versions of that song before.
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  Speaker 1: When I would play it, people would get it. But
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: in the beginning, it was like, they still don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: I got to holler at the homie Modre so he
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: can do the talkbox, so I can defunk, so you
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  Speaker 1: can actually feel where I'm going, and these elements can
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  Speaker 1: change the listener's ear quickly. Yeah, it was definitely a risk,
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  Speaker 1: but I think there's a few people who could pull
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: pull that ship off. I'm not sure you're capable of
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: doing anything really terrible. If I did, you would never
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: hear it, yes, cause I know I know I'd have
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: made some ship, but you'll never hear you know what
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that's a that's a part of the
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: creative process. Like it normally starts in the morning. I
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: give me some good piano chords going, and I go
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: to singing. Then by that time I'm shooting the ideal
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: over the Dutch, like, bro, what you think about this?
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: And then through through on just playing it through the
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: speaker and like that's hard, and then I just keep
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: building from there. Talk to me about your death jam Era,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: because as a fan, it was extremely frustrating because I'd
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: always I guess when you ended up at death jam
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, now this it's it's going down right,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: and we at the hip hop Michle what Death Jam
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: finally's got the machine behind because just cinematic Yeah okay
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: at the time, and I just felt like, at least
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: from a fans perspective, they grossly mishandled you or just
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: just not did not know what to do with big Critic. Well,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the building that signed me, like I think two weeks
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: a month later was gone. That happens a lot, and
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: then you you already kind of starting off rocky because
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: you got working with the people that may have been
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: people who believed in you, that brought you in. Y're gone.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And man, I was determined and shout out the shot
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: money and my team. I was determined to produce my
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: first album no matter what I was like, Man, there
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: was a gold and it was something that I needed
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to do for myself because it was that idea old
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: crit sign watched it ship change up, so I just
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: like fucked that, you know. And then I went right
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: into doing all the beats and wanting to keep it
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: the same way I did with the mixtapes and what
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: with the projects at the time. And so what happened
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: is the samples of some samples I couldn't clear some
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: features I couldn't get. Then when you mixing that kind
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: of stuff and you having to remove things off the whim,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: it just changed the narrative of what the album originally
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: would have felt like because I couldn't get sample clearances,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: and we fought for a lot of the records and
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I had the change them. Shits like three days before
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I had to turn the album me in kind of stuff.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: And I've been listening to this live from underground song
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a certain kind of way, and I gotta I gotta
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: change it. I gotta get this piano played, but try
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to make it sound old. But you know what it's
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: like when you sample something then you try to recreate it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not quite right. But in that album, we
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: showed people that just because you're not getting the label
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: support and they don't know what to do it, it
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that people aren't gonna buy it. It was
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: a great album. Yeah, And and my supporters came through,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and then first we sales. My fuckers looking at us
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: like how did y'all do that? I was like, mean, y'all,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: like I have they my people, they come out, you know.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: But even with singles, trying to get the single pushed
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and then ship we dropped money on the floor in
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: twenty eleven September. My album didn't come out till June
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: twenty twelve, so I had literally trying to promote you
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: single for damn a year. Okay, So crit was here
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: came out when in Return to Forever dropped twenty eleven.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: It came out March, and Them was the third tape
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: before the album. The day I dropped to think about
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: that I had in order to keep the momentum going.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I knew how because Forever the day you already were
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: on death jam, right, I had to drop something in
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: order to keep keeping You're like, I mean, between you
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and Wiz and I'm probably forgetting, but you guys have
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the albums that weren't albums, but they were albums. I mean,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: but that was the best way to keep people engaged.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: It was free, you know, they weren't mixtapes. They were
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: like this new thing where people were just giving away
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: real albums. That was the best. That was your best
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: calling card at the time, though, Like and then if
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: you any for me, it was like, man, I want
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: to make sure that this project competes with these major
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: label albums, regardless of how I'm doing it in my room.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: We drop it randomly, and that's what he did. To
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the point people was like, for and Day should have
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: been your album, you know, And I had to. I
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: had to. I had to take that with a grain
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: of salt. But I'm like, I spent a different kind
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: of energy. It was different. You didn't have to worry
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: about nobody. Even it was called the Red Tape. I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: just popped up and was like, yo, I remember Ford
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the Day or uh yeah, the last table for that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: did drop out of nowhere? Yeah, because I told her,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I said, we need to do something. It's out here, bro,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: we need to drop this. And then then it becomes
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: this thing where I had so much creative freedom to
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: do it. So I'm fucking working either the cover, everything
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: about it just became Oh, that could have been my album?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: What is your? My favorite project of yours is returning Forever?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: What is you? If you? If you had to, if
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you had to, like tell one, like, I don't know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: let's say, fucking aliens came down and they're like, what's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: your best album? We're trying to take the shit to Mars.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: What's the album you give them? I got I gotta
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: says it's for, It's for was a mighty long time
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: in return forether. I think those two pretty much sum
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: up the growth and what I'm capable of. And Fela's
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: burning alone time was not only a process, but it
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: was this beautiful way of me telling people that I
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: have these do ways of thinking about my career and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: then wanting to be this turnent artist. And I love,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you know, performing that, but I got so much more
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: to say and here, and then sometimes I don't even
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: know if music, if I'm getting my point across with
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the event enough, or if drinking sessions is like I'm
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: doing this stuff because I feel this way and it's
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: not just me trying to shock value kind of thing.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: And so it was just being able to be that open,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that creative. And I appreciate my team for letting me
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: do a double album, which nobody was doing that at
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the time. It's true, like that's a lot of music.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, bru, that's a lot, and then it's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: not even up on iTunes. It's just one of the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: long Well that's the thing about nowadays, it's like if
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you drop a double album, you just drop a long ass.
• 21:07
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• 21:10
  Speaker 1: But fact, even doing the Justin Scott intro is like
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I sampled my own intro to create the big Creed intro.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So it's just small things. It's like, Man, I'm always
• 21:22
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  Speaker 1: that was dope. Well, I just think that, like you
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  Speaker 1: said that you you you view your career through two
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  Speaker 1: different perspectives at times, or at least that on that
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  Speaker 1: album you said that you had kind of communicated that
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: in the day, I did the same thing. I feel
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: like when it like like a lot of people have
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you in the guards of like being one of the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: greatest right of all time, of your generation whatever, actually
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: put out a I don't you remember when that hundred
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Rappers someone put out a Yeah, But I put out
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I put out a list, and I think I had you,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: like in the top twenty or twenty five, and I
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: had people in the I had Freddy super high, I
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  Speaker 1: had you super high, push a t with super hot.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I had you a buffer little Wayne for sure. Okay, okay, okay.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: People didn't like that. I'm pretty sure they didn't. But
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you know, in one regard, you're like in that conversation
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: amongst the people who know, and then on the other
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: side of the coin, it's like I still feel like
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: somehow you haven't met your potential commercially yet, And I'm
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: not saying that that is not coming. Yeah, I mean
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's most people will say. Traditionally, I haven't
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: had a quote unquote hit. Country Ship probably was the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Bigges Supposed to Stay that was the biggest record, and
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I think from that it was I tried to play
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the Sweetie and Little Wayne song in real in La.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I was fighting to get that bitch on the mixed
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: show thank You, thank You and that and even that record.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I've just been ahead of the curve just a
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: little yeah, because that was a little pre before Sweetie
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: really caught, you know what I'm saying. And then even
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: with having a record with Future right just last week
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: record with two, I forgot about that song. And so
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it's for me, it's always wanting to work with people
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and just because I'm fucking what they sound, and then
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: obviously things take off. But it's it's just been the narrative.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: But I never chased it. I never was, like I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: think pay attention to working with Rico Love also was
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the closest thing because I was starting to get some yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and then that was me trying to find and kind
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: of grow up a little more than what people was
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: used to. That was a different record for which is
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the Wooden Chain, And you know the I forgot about
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the Wooden Chain, you know. So it's like I'm growing up,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you know. But going through all those things really showed
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: me that people I don't have a box that I'm in,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: so people that if it's jamming, they cool with what
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I present and then just now doing it in the
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: most authentic way as I possibly can, you know, but
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: those are great piers. I go back and look at
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: them videos. I'm like, man, we the quality for what
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: it for the time time, for not necessarily having the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: certain kind of label support that most would be. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: never slacked on the fact that I wanted to give
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: people the best me right, And I remember what Live
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: from the Underground kind of went through with the critique
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: of it, how people felt about it, coming back doing
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: cattle at good then people going back and being like,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you know what Live for the Underground was jamming? I like,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I like that one too. Yeah, I mean,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: but it was just it was always like and keep
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: in mind, bro be telling people, it's like, man, I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: had to create a whole planet I created a whole
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: planet wrapped about it, the story of it, and it
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: was still like, y'all still don't see, like I'm do
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you want to know what it is? I think that
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: when you come out with two projects like krit was
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Here and return It Forever, it's kind of like when
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: NAS came out with Illmatic and it was written do
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you remember like NAS could do no right if it wasn't,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Do you remember how long it's like, get it put on?
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: You were always I just feel like you have some
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: of the greatest bodies of work that we've heard in
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the last twenty years. And so when you have those
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: bodies of work, even if the other shit is fired,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: people are always gonna be like, but but the vent, yeah,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, and and what you're at peace with it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That's just what it is, what you obviously are just
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: just keep putting, just keep doing you and running it up.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: It is crazy that I remember once QUB was came
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: out and just what happened next, and then returning Forever
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: twenty eleven, and just the movement behind the album. And
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: so for me it's like I get it. It still
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: was like first introductions too, though this was like, oh man,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: it was new for what it was at the time.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I'm from Mississippi and so to be that country and
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: free and then it was just you know, it was
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: people first introduction with me. In twenty ten, I think
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you won uh DJ's z DJ booth dot Net Album
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: or Mixtape of the Year, double x. I remember that
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: year specifically because it was you, it was krit was here,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: it was trunk music, and it was I'm thinking of
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of that we've been doing this
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: for me, but just what a great fuck it like?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Can you do you remember how great it was to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: just be like just for no red tape, let's just
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: drop music. I just as a fan, it's my favorite
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: era ever because there was just so much ship and
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it was so easy to put people on the music
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and they was there and they was waiting. Everything was
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was pre streaming still, right,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: So there was this aspect people fuck with your music.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: They had to go get it, they had to seek
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: it out, they had to download it, they had the receipt,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: they had to get a virus on their laps on
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: her computer. For sure. Some of those drinks top up
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: crazy shit, like what the fuck that's funny, man, But yeah,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I've been blessed to be able to see both. Now
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: it's a transition, you know, trying to see how the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: music game works in this era and how this feels
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: because content is king right. But for me, it's just
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: once again never losing the fact that I love when
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: people listen to my music in their car when they
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: go from point A to point B, and what that
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: means to them. So I'm never gonna just for the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: of what's happening in the music as short, people on
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: what I bring to the table. This So this Girl
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Talk project would be your second project in about a
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: month and some change. I hear you may or may
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: not already have something coming soon. Don't worry about okay,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean come on, I mean, you've been
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: resting for a couple of years, right, I'm assuming you've
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: been working. I got a lot, I got a lot
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: of ship bro and then and then this is this,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: This is the step in the right direction of me
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: staying more out on the front, doing more music because
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: people know me to do an album and then probably
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: disappear for a year or two. So now it's like, nah,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna constantly drop this time, and I'm excited because
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: then you know, it's it's that they still get their turn.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Element of me, the growth of me into and branding
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: multi is very important because I got my label and
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: now it's like really trying to put artists out that
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I that I deem that I want people to really hear.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Of course, some of those artists now I mean, well,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: roll in the young lady singing on the album, and
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: her voice is amazing. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: And at this moment, I think just focusing and wanting
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to work with her, and there was a couple of
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: artists men, but I don't want to you know, I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: ain't put it. I ain't put it together yet for you.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Who was that dope ass singer from Atlanta that used
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to be on Everyone Ship Sometimes she wouldn't even get featured. Nikia?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Was that her name sounds familiar? Does that sound right? Dutch? Nikia?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: She was hard. I just think she was like on
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: hell she was on hell Ship. That's random tidbit. Let's
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: talk about team because I do feel like team is
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: so important in the music industry and I want to
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: just give some love to your guy. Dutch because has
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: been your running mate for a very long time. Yeah. Man,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the growth though, because Dutch started off as my tour manager,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: so being out there on the road and actually kind
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: of putting up with how I was as an artist,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and then being able to be very influential with being
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: in the studio being around for those times, and then
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: getting to the point where like, yo, bro, manage me right,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and then this he would. And it's great too because
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Dutch is his own entity now, right, you know what
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like he is his own own thing.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: So it's just dope to see the growth in me
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and him, both not only me as an artist, but
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: him as a businessman. Has it been like, you know,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: are you kind of like coming from two different eras
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of music into the streaming era? What are the things
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that you've kind of had to like, maybe, yeah, pint
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: your nose because you know, I think of TikTok. TikTok
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: is one of those things that we think of. It's like, man,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: it's some kiddy ass shit. But I'm just starting to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: notice like even the artists you would never think would
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: be on TikTok, it's kind of like you have to
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: be on TikTok. I mean it comes with the territory
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of what we do. Yes, And it's very quick how
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a record can take off on the right. It's become
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: a radio station within itself. And so you kind of
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: got a move of where the music is going right
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: and then to be gone for two years. I can't
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: be mad at people to pick up another form of
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: learning and finding out about artists, and it's it's going.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: And I remember even a being something that was like
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: all you take a picture of your food. Oh, this
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: is what I'm wearing today, you know what I'm saying.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Like with Steals, this is like, man, you could just
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: be in your bed just talking to you. You know
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It totally removab smoking mirrors. It's crazy.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: It's the most transparent. Uh well, fans and artists relationship
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: or dynamic is the most transparent it's ever been, Which
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: is why I feel like it's it's a lot harder
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: to fake the funck now you could buy you know, streams,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and I think the live show will pull the curtain
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: back on whether or not you got real. But in
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: terms of just like I think about R and B,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: do you remember like us growing up every R and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: B singer was a beautiful man with a six pack
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and chiseled and had the perfect hair. And now what's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: B malone in the weekend? You know what I'm saying,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: it's it's and and but the music is so good
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and and I think people are like, yo, I I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: see through the product, because you know, those guys were products.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, but the understanding that people want to see
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and listen to people that look like that they could
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: relate to. They want to feel like they're yeah, yeah,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, because we're definitely running to the understanding that
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that particular individual or however they present themselves might not
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: be realistic to how you can present us. Yeah, like
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Cisco with a leather jack abax jacket opened up with
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: a twelve pack and bleached hair dancing in the rain.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And I loved Cisco so respected. But I don't think
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I wanted to die my heal silver at all. So
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys did. They did. My older brother did.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Do you remember because of Cisco, we
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: all used to wear fitted hats with Chinese letters on them.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I had no idea what they said. You could have
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the fitted hat and the Chinese letter and then on
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the back it'd be the baseball team, what curly will
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: you probably do this? But the sideburns that was kind
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: of like, yeah, the genuine type burns. Yeah they yeah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: didn't do those though into those I feel like I
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: feel yeah, I do feel like. That's kind of the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: positive thing that social media has done is it's kind
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: of like even the playing field in a sense where
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: like you don't have to be like you almost would
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: rather be more relatable and like I want to have
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a beer with you and not fuck you. You know
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, not me specifically, I'm just what the fuck? Yeah,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I feel what you're saying though. I mean, but it's
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: again is pulling the curtain bag. I think it's allowing
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: artists not only to be more transparent, but it's still
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: it's getting to that it's getting to being able to
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: show that I and I have anxiety. Oh this frustrates me.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Oh I don't like what's going on in my in
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: my deal or my career. So it's definitely giving people
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: more of that platform and not be so scared to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: actually express their A lot of that's been happening and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: they go in this is right there, Meek Mill NBA
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: young boy. I mean everyone has been being someone who's
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: kind of experienced all sides of the game. If there's
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: an up and cooming artist who's watching this, who might
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: have a little something going on, and labels always trying
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to sign you, there's majors, there's many majors, there's you know,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: it's just a distribution company whatever. Right would you suggest
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: someone go to major label route right now? I mean, well,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: this depends on what they want in the beginning. Right
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: As an artist, I wanted to be played on the radio.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be signed to a major because it's
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: just this grandiose thing about doing music. If they feel
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: that the deal is structured in a way that they
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: can still get the joy of being signed and it
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: be fair, then by all means do it. My personal
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: experience might not be like someone else's. I know a
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: lot of artists that are signed and they seem to
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: get a fair shake in it. They get to check,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: they get the support, they do the late night shows,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and it seems to work. It didn't necessarily work for me, right,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and so I can't expect somebody to take my role
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: with it because this isn't easy, you know, it's definitely
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the role. Let's travel you. It's like being it's like
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: being on a private airport. I talk about all this time.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: It's like when you were a label. It's a huge airport,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: planes leaving, you know, independent, you're you're at Burbank, you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: get to walk right through. Yeah, but when it's when
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the when the air is full, you can't take off.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: This is true, and it's harder to get to some destinations.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta connect. Yeah. So and for me
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: it's like once we figure it out. But it was
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: so weird. Once we left death Jam and we told
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: people that I was leaving, it was so many motherfuckers
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: They're like, bro, you saying dep jail. Yeah. I don't
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people knew that who were tied
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: to the sun was like, yeah, was with depth Jam
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: for six seven years. It was a minute and it's like, oh,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: we didn't even know. It's so crazy. And it's it's
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: crazy too because like I think of like I just
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Man. As a fan, I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: just was like, what the fuck is death Jam doing?
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Like nothing like anything you like feature wise or like
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: all that ship. It was. There was some still some
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: great people we met there. And then even with me,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: it was the understanding that I'm from the South. I'm
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: from a place that a lot of people haven't even been, right,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: So when you're talking about trying to create a certain
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: kind of what's the word, I wanted to support in
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a building where they seeing their favorite artists come through
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: all the time, right, And it was a lot of
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: young people, and yeah, they might fuck with me as
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: a person, but they weren't might have been into my music,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: might not have knew about my music. They want to
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: promote for their favorite artists, right, And so you know,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you run into that, and then you get the situation
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: where the album come out, you go in the office
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and everybody in the building playing your songs and you like,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I know good and damn well, y'all don't do this
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: every day, and so I mean, you appreciate them trying.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: But we went out and we was We knew that
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I had hard ticket sales, that I had support from
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: people because I was on the ground and we was
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: doing all the runs, meeting the DJs, and I'm very
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: hands on with how I interact with people, and so
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: that helped my career tremendously. Bro that it didn't matter
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: that we didn't have certain outlets and certain press and
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: push because we still was selling our shows. Correct me
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, because I don't remember. Remember if you
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: were on these albums, because I was we were talking
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: about this album earlier. Did Russ tap in with you
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: on any of the Chumps? Yeah, I'm up to make
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: sure I'm not. Yeah, I don't care. Shout out to
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the homie for that because he gets busy too. Yeah.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, he pretty much just grabbed like every rapper
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: that was like incredible in the world that would work
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: with fun with the fact that he was a total
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: told thing. It's like, and he's sending you his verse too,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: and they take a lot to be like, all right,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: this is what I did, and I'm totally comfortable with
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: you hearing what I did. A lot of people don't
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: do that, nah, because they want to be able to
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: be like I got out and I got No. He
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: was very confident with like, hey, I did what I
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: did here. Yeah. Shout out to Russ. Yeah, man, he's
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: he's doing his thing ship independently. Are you Are you
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: staying independent? Are you? Yeah? Man, a label can only
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: partner with my label. I'll never feelically signed to a major.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Smart move man. It's like I'm past that point. I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even begin to know how to play that game.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: How do you pick? Like? Because I mean, do you
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: do you link up with the distribute distributing partner or
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: do you do the straight tune core? Now BMG? BMG
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: is distributing. Yeah, that's dope. And it's one of them
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: situations where I work on the music, me and my
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: team feel comfortable with it, and then we dropped the album.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: It's not like a go in have to play it
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and get none. We think like we passed it. Ain't no,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: ain't no performing on tables and ship did you ever
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: have never? Did? I want to say, did you ever
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: have never did it? You would have broke the table.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know. But I wouldn't go to
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: do this. How Like your live show has always been
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: one of the more special ones in hip hop because
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're on stage and it's just
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: you and the DJ and no bullshit going on, you're
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: killing it. You're gonna turn up. I mean, I learned
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: from Banner. David Banner David Banner. David Banner. Then yellow
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Wolf was go crazy. Yellow Wolf was special. I mean
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: he still is special, go crazy on stage, and so
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: it's one of even when it was old, like south
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: By Southwest, it was climbing up on ship just jumping
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: off of those early south By shows were like, uh, yeah,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: we legends things. The legends are made of animal house Bro.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: We was wild and Magnill all of us is crazy
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: on stage. Bro. Those are the days where you could
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: actually like you could go to south By and leave
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: the deal yep, because that's what That's what happened with Wolf. Yeah, yeah,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I mean sh the Wolf. It will I think, I
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: think Stalley got Kendrick, I think currency everybody we went
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: down there and then yeah, yeah, I don't know what
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: it is now. I'm gonna go next week. Unfortunately I'm
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: gonna go. But oh well, yeah, damn it is next week.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I haven't been in a long time. Don't go, I'm going.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going because I have to go. But you know
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: what those days are like, Oh yeah, sixteen hours on
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: your feet walking around hot just nothing like trying to
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: find a taxi cab at four in the morning from
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the Elmore parking because if you rent a car and
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you got a hotel rooms, literally what hell was made of?
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: South By Southwest is the worst ship ever. I so little.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: You know, it's cool. I had fun, but I also
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: know that, like I walked four and a half miles
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: at three thirty in the morning because I couldn't get
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a fucking cab yo. And like you said, sometimes your
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: hotel room is off in the cut far. So when
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: you're done doing eleven random, I mean, oh you all
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: you hearing all the rapping you're going there? It gets
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: it gets crazy. I remember when Sprite. You remember that
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Sprite had first popped off. It was called it was
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: like Wheezy. Yeah, it was with it. You know how
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: many people thought it was a new artist because it
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: was the back of Lil Wayne's here. But it was
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: like crazy was saying do Weezy? Everywhere? It was like,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: but who is this new rapper? That? It took some
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: myself with bro south By is uh good times. I
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: hope it it somehow regains it. I was talking to
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the homie, Brian Hobbs, who works there, and I was
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, I hope that Brian's good guy, and
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I hope that the two year break readjusted because it
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: got to the point where it was super organic and
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: it truly fell special. And then like this, there was
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a Dorido stage with Lady Gaga. Yeah, once he got
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: to that point, it was I'm like, what the fuck
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: is Lady gag got doing here? This is not for her.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: The labels got a hold of it, that PEPSI got
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: a hold of it. You couldn't get it. The stage
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: game changed, and then now everyone's got a stack. Oh
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: my god, everything bro. I posted on on on ig
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the other day that I was going to be at
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: south By I got at least thirty d ms. Yo,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: come to my stage, come to my stage, or YO,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: how much to get on your stage? I'm like, dude,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: first of all, are up and coming artists. If you're
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: watching this and someone tries to charge you to get
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: on their shitty south By Southwest stage, tell them to
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: go fuck themselves, lord, because it's not gonna do anything
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: for your fucking career. Nah, you might as well take
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: all that money in buy YouTube ads for the last
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: music video area Jesus in the day, because you're gonna
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: spend that money and you're gonna perform for sixty stinky
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: ass people who don't even want to be there. They're
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: just there because it's the only thing they could get
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: into at the time. You really don't want to go.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I don't wait. What don't you got rookie cards over there?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: What do we do it? Oh? That's his ship. You
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: got basketball cards? Yeah? What do we got? We got
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: some drama rants over there? He won't he looking for?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Is do you collect basketball cards? Nah? That's that. That
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: would be a very expensive habit for me. Also, if
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you would have started, like at the beginning of the pandemic,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: a pretty fruitful habit. Yeah. But I mean, and I'm like,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I'm a gamer to some degree. What do you play? Man?
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I play NBA two k MLB to show been my
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: ship for the past year and some change. I've been
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: playing the fuck out that game because it's I'm a
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: baseball player at hard and then I'm playing this ship
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: called Elden Ring right now. My son just told me
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: today is ridiculous. He said it was what's the name
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Elder Scrolls? Was that the name of that one? Bro?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: He says, it's like the new version of that bro.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I've never played a game like this before. But that
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: ship is so inner like it was like some medieval
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: time dragon. I don't know how to fuck they came
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: up with the idea to create something like this, Bro,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: it's just so will fire as fire as fuck. Bro,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: it's taking up too much of my time, right, you're
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: gonna get on Twitch. I tried to, but it's something
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I'm so competitive, so they potly be like, hey, bro,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: you don't have to win on Twitch. You just also
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: could just talk shit. I mean see, I'm like fucking
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: If I fuck up, I'm like pissed, and then I'm
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: trying to be like nice at shit. You don't want
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to get you don't want to get canceled like that
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: dude on the Heat. Bro, do you remember the guy
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: in the Heat who got smoked and he said, he
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: said some crazy Jewish ship and see Myers Leonard And
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: they released him and he's still not in the league
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: and he's the seventh. He's like a six foot ten
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: white guy who can hit threes. He's done oh ye
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: off of Twitch. And in the moments you get pissed
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: off and just say, did you see Snoop rage quit
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: a man? Yeah, I've seen him, but it's it's real though,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and I mean for I also don't want if some
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: stuff I do with my free time is just for me,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: it's for you. But that being said, T Pains making
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: an extremely amount of money. He's crushing, but he's crushing
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and it works though. But T Pain is very He
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: don't give a He's kind of made for twitch. Yeah,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: it works. It works in the Homie podcast and all that.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: It works well. Have you got on his podcast? Not yet,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: but I'm supposed to. It's a good I didn't need
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: to hit the home. Yeah, Pain's a good guy. Yeah, yo,
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• 47:20
  Speaker 1: is all listen, man, put the odd socks on your
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: ass cheeks and think me later. One thing I like
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: about t Pain is like he's kind of like unapologetically
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: himself whether or not. It's like he goes against whatever
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: popular like popular belief, Like he's just just like, yoah,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: this is how I feel. And another cool thing about
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: paying is like you're like, no matter what, you're just
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: one record away again always. I mean, but this is
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: the thing he sees wrote so many he records just
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the greatest hit makers ever,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: and so it's kind of like, you know, to see
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: him also, to see a lot of these artists transform
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: out of just making music and actually find in a
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: place where they the personality starts to shine, I think
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: is kind of a great step moving forward for a
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: lot of artists because it's the thing rap. We've yet
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: to see a rapper retire except Joe Budden apparently, I mean,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: but just to be like all I'm done. Yeah, because
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: jay Z retired and then came out with Kingdom Coming.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: We're like lifetime achievement award kind of the game, right,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: So we what is the transition for artists? I think
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: all of us do have a voice beyond it just
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: being on beat, and so I think looking at people
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: like Joe Budden on looking at a tea pain even
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: with Keller Mike's diend a good job smoke, this is
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: doing right now, It's like, okay, you know, get to
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: a point where were really talking versus being an instrumental behind. Yeah,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: like Action Bronson I think was early too. That's delicious.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Shout out to him too. That guy. Yeah, yeah, he
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: looks like one of those guys. Do you remember back
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: in the day on the Religious Channel they used to
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: tear phone books. He looks like one of those little
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: of those guys used to like tear books and Jesus
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: go to your school and they came in school, they
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: would tear a deck of cards and it'd be like
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: the power of the Lord. Yeah. Yeah, Action Bronson is
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that motherfucker. I feel like he could tear a phone book.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I definitely peeped his his trajectory. Man, I'm proud of
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the Homi And I think that's another thing too, that
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: if nothing else, if music can't give us the opportunity
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: to completely change our lifestyles in the healthy is ways possible,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: and a lot of us between the partying and the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: fucking it off on tour years and years. At some
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: point it can't sup to you, right, You've been in
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the game long enough to have peers that have come
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and gone as far as musically, yeah uh, and unfortunately
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: in actually being here in physical form, you know, I
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: think of just like some of the artists that came
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: along the way with you that aren't rapping anymore, we
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: don't here from in your opinion, who's like maybe the
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: biggest what if of all time or maybe the biggest
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: artists where you were like, you know, maybe that you
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: don't think they got the chance or or just things
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: didn't necessarily work out how you had hoped for them.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I'll give you mine first to break the ice. I'm
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: gonna say, peel peel, definitely p I double l Man Peel. Yeah,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Pink City. Damn this what's the homie name from Mississippi?
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Broh the homie that went on tour with us. I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: can't think of the name my brain just uh Tito.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Tito Lopez was so fire jamming, bro and he was
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: like was in he an aftermath? Yeah, I think he
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: was riding over there. And Tito Lopez did a freestyle
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: for my mixtape and at that we lived in the
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: same neighborhood in Las Vegas for a little bit. Yeah,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: and the homie I don't think got a fish shape,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you know, Tito Lopez was so cold. Hey x V
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: was hm hmm. Zero heroes hmm. He went to Warner
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Brothers and man, I don't know what they do. It
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: just it's just one of them things, man, when you
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: they the excitement of something. Charles Hamilton, Ah, yeah, fuck man. Yeah.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Those Green Lanterns, the Green Lantern mixtapes are crazy. It's
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: just going to the label sometimes that's that's like weighing them.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Sometimes that's when the hard work really starts. That's when
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: it starts, not the when you independent, because you it's
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: like when you move into promotion your music and it's
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: and you independent, you don't even think about it as
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: much as like, oh, it's just here. My CD is
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: just excitement. Listen, boo boom boom. Once you got the
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: ear and the support, that's when the pressure kind of
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: takes a different kind of hole, because every song you're
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: trying to make sure, every song is just the ship,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: and it could take you totally out of your creative space.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I think to like, not everyone maybe understands how hard
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: it is to be an artist, that your entire livelihood
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: is based on a subjective thing. And sometimes the subjected
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: that that's a objective thing is not. It's not the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: gatekeeper of whether or not it's good enough. Isn't the
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: people as much as it's whoever the fuck is in
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the boardroom. You know what I'm saying, Like, I think
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: it's like a side to actually give you the support necessary.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: We're talking about literal art, you know what I'm saying. Like,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I think of like someone like XV and
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: like I'm like, yo, this dude drop classic music and
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, just Warner Brothers, just man, I can't
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: like so. And even in the process of putting the
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: music out and going through that, when you're done with
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the album and what that means, and it's like you
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: become the album and a certain like you live it,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: you know, even with the tapes, it's like you could
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: do that and breathe and then you're working on something else.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: When you do your album, you got to that's what
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: you put out. You gotta own that forever for having
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: some change. You tour, everything is surrounded around this one
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: creative project and it could take you a year and
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: a half to make it, and it takes people forty
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: five minutes to listen to have an opinion and be
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: like I don't like it. That's you, Like I just
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: spent that should just happened with Roddy rich Trotti. Rich
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: took two years to put his out and people just
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: hated it. And it's like he deleted his Instagram. It's
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: like what do you create? It's like what do you
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: do it? Like? How do you how? It's hard to
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: move forward because did you gotta live it? You in
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: it though, You're just out now and you just gotta
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: wait till you can't unrelease it. You can't you can't
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: unrelease it. Bro. Yeah, was there a point in time
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: where you felt like you were getting maybe I wouldn't
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: say depressed, but maybe you were just down and out
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: when it came to just everything, man, that that that
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: that could, that could be yesterday. You know. It's one
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: of those things where I've been doing this also for
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: so long, and that sometimes I have to be like
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: what else in my life? Like what's next for me?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: You know, I've spent you know, my teenage years up
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: until this point with the one focal idea of I
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: do music, and I love this art form, but I
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: think I started to give it a certain kind of
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: power over my life and how I feel about myself
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: and anxiety and if I'm not doing music and I'm
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: not doing anything and that's not true, it's true. And
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: so the two years to take off, not drop an album,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Drop an album, and you go right back into that
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: with what y'all think about it, and then that can
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: just dial you all the way down into a depression
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: anxiety because if people don't like it, you gotta live
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: with that. I mean, look, I think at the end
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: of the day, man, you gotta know if you're gonna
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: put something out that you're you're just okay with whatever
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: comes with it. That takes time. Most artists. We never
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: find that comfort because for you to come out two
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: years and drop a project like this one, that's a risk.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: But it's also like, you gotta know this is some
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: good this is good like and that's but see you
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: just said it, but it's subjective. I know it's jamming.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I fucking know. I'm like, man, I put a lot,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: and I know this because I wouldn't want to listen
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: to it if it wasn't. But that don't take away
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: from what somebody else might want or hear wont from me? Right?
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And then most where's my sub part eleven? Yeah? Right?
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: But most of it is a part of whatever point
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: in their life they because that's the kind of music
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I really got to start making. It wasn't about Oh
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: this the kind of kick drauma snary everybody using. I'm
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: using that. This is kind of how I had. Oh
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: this the flow, this the tempo, I'm gonna do that.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I don't do that with my music. I'm like, oh,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a song about a breakup, and in
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: a kind of way where I'm trying to forgive myself
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: for doing wrong because that's what I go through. That's
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: why I've experienced that in life and it needs to
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: be heard, you know, and despite what people may feel
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: about it in the moment, if they go through a breakup,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: at least they know they can relate to me. Yeah.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I think the red I think everyone's gone. I mean,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: for the most part, everyone's gone through something like that,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and the relatability of that is you know, a lot
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: more like timeless. Yeah, that'll be there forever. Yeah. So
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: did this album? Was there a specific relationship that happened
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: that all? Or was it just an accumulation of having
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: to go back and look at whatever patterns I have
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: and the excitement when you first get with some body,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: then when you get comfortable and then you start questioning
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: how far this relationship is going to go? And then
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: that happened. I feel like, you know, there's always that
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: process in a relationship. You pretty much just kind of
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: nailed it. And the thing is is, once you get
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to that weird space of like past the comfortable, if
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: you can make it through that, then you got something.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Then you got something, yeah, and you and the album
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: is literally that. But being comfortable with the experience, whether
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: it was good or bad, learning from the experience. That's
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: why the record all the time I spent the idea
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: of I spent so much time gaining material things and
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: wanting this, and it didn't really change the narrative of
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: what love is and how we could blossom or I
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: could it could die, but growing from that and like, well,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: at least I loved it all and tying it all
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: back in with more than roses at the end, which
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: is despite what we deal with in life, we interact
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: with each other, We build and communicate and we need
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: to we need community. So there it is the rest
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: of you. I mean, obviously, tours happened in April twenty second. Man,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I'm getting you excited to go together for that now, yeah,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: you very excited and terrified to be in front of
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: all those people. No one's even wearing masks. That fucking
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Amicron is gonna be lurking. Boy. Hey, well, you know
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: what's crazy is I haven't heard anybody in the last
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks get COVID. Hey, but look, you know,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just a couple of weeks ago, everyone everyone and
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: their mom had the ship, and I feel like the
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: last week and a half or two, I haven't heard
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen a lot of people saying I'm hot in.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I caught this ship Thanksgiving of last year. Bro. That
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: ain't nothing. Nobody want Amicron or Delta or whatever kind
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: just covid. I caught that ship and it didn't It wasn't.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: It wasn't. Well, I had a light whatever. Did you've
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: axx that thing up? Huh? Did you ax that thing up?
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: As juvenile said, huh did you see the juvenile video? Huh? Yeah,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I saw the video. I know. You know I'm with
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Rogers Roger in United, Yeah, uh yeah, I'm you know.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: That was not fucking with Aaron Rodgers. I mean, come on, man,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: he I mean, I'm not gonna He pumped fake, He
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: pumped fake the fuck out of he said, yeah, I'm
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: mim United. It was like that up on the spot
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: thoughts on the fucking spot. But actually he got over
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: it quick. They still talk about my homie Kyrie Irving like,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, Kyrie to me was like, I'm not doing it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: He just was like, hey, but that shows me that
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: when you time and you do it, you great at
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: what you do, that they'll they'll have just the situation,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: of course they will. And the asinine part of it
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: is that if you play for a different team and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: you go to the Nets stadium, you can play. But
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: if you play for the Net and you're not vaccinated.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: But if you if you aren't vaccinated and you play
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: for the Nets, you can't play. I'm like, but you
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: still basically still playing around everybody anyway, he's practicing with it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I don't understand any of it. The Kyrie thing. He
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: just put fifty up against the Hornets last night, got
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: to wait the ball. He was out here, like, the
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: only thing they're gonna hit a snag is if they
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: they end up running into the Raptors in that playing game,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: because and the Raptors play if they play in Toronto,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Kyrie can't play there. Oh ship Canada. So that because
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: right now they're the eight seed, like the worst the
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: second they've lost because vin they've been terrible. So you're
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: a basketball fan, Yeah, I haven't gave an opportunity to
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: dive into it this much. I know that you don't
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: have basketball You don't have stacks of basketball cards. No,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I don't. But see, I also just on deck if
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan of players, So Lebron is definitely you
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Lebron your favorite player? Yes, right now,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: I will say that definitely. Yeah, he's my favorite player ever.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: And to see the work he puts in every night,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: just to he put a fifty six the other night. Bro,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: and its year nineteen, That's what I'm saying, Bro. And
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: the and to still being a situation where you, hey,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: what team was that against? No, what team was it against? Oh?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: The Warriors? It was against the Warriors. That's crazy. But
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: did they you see his hat? Okay? Okay? Did the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Lakers win though? Because they won? Oh? They won? Okay? Yeah,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: all they won. I'll tell you hasn't been winning a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: lot of lately. Fucking Warriors. They fell out of that
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: three seed. Oh yeah, the Grizzlies are the two seed
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: right now? You think it's Cuzy was the one seed?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: The Phoenix fucking Suns. Yeah, they going crazy. Charles Barkley's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: behind you. He's proud. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about Devin Booker from Mississippi? So
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: is he from Mississippi? Mississippi? He's from Race Rammers from
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Devin Booker. I thought he was from Michigan. He played
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: high school in Michigan. You know, Mississippi. You mean tell me.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: The same city in Mississippi produced Race Rammer and Devin Booker. Yeah,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: this is amazing. This might be the greatest in the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: country because that's arguably the best rap duo since Mob
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Deep and Devin Booger's. I mean, he's crushing it. He's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: just an angel sent from God to say, Phoenix Suns basketball.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: So I forgot this spot. It's crazy you ain't even
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: there no more. Yeah, I mean I'm there once. I'm
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: there once a month. I'm there one month you'd be
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: turning up and yeah, I'm still waiting on Mississippi to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: get a basketball team. I don't know if that's ever
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: gonna That ship should happen, though, Bro, I don't know.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: You know, there's this stick, you know, grown up to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: talk about. You know what it is grown up? As
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: a little kid, I rented Burning Mississippi from the library,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and ever since then, I just thought mississippis No. I mean, well,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: that's that's everywhere. That was with Matthew McConaughey and Samuel Jackson.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that movie Time to Kill or No
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Time to Kill? Wasn't that in Mississippi? I don't know
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: it was in Mississippi, right, stop. Look, it's all good.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: That had got Mississippi Massala. That was a good movie.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck is Denzel Washington. See'll
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: have to find there was a burning Mississippi. Ain't worried
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: about that. And then there was time. I think a
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: time see, And that's the problem is not what people
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: think it that's all I think. I'm like you. So
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: when I lived in Tampa, because I lived in Tampa,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I mean I saw you a bunch when I was
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: in Tampa, and I remember we drove me and my boys.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: They helped me move to Tampa. And you know, all
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: my friends are people of color. So we're driving through
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: uh and and we stop in Houston and they tell us.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: They're like, hey, there's this area of East Texas. You
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: do not stop for anything. It is I think we
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: know they're like yo, they're openly racist. There's billboards. It
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: is like the clan like head viter it starts with
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: a V. Yeah. See it's everywhere. And I googled this
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: ship and it's literally they're they're they're telling you keep
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: driving on boards like it's fucking crazy. I wonder who
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: won Vita in the twenty twenty election. Who do you
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: think who do you think took it? You think too,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious, who do you think took East Texas?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Lord geez, who in that district? Lord Joe Byron? I know, no, man,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: but Mississippi is not what people think, at least I mean,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: and if people don't like you, you know it. And
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: it ain't no ain't no pump, ain't no pump. Fake.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: With that, it was having to get used to people
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: not liking me but pretending they did when I went
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: everywhere else. It's Deon Sanders, the best thing to happen
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: to Mississippi since Big crit When it comes to Jackson
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: State football team, I would say, so he is crushing it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: He's a couple of toes short right now. He had
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: a couple of toes amputated yesterday. Yeah, you know, he's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: been riding around that scooter because of it's late. So
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: I guess there was a complication with the surgeries and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: that amputated two of his toes. God damn. The fact
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: he's able to recruit the players he's recruiting to Jackson.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: It's gonna change. It's crazy and it should be. I mean,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: but these not only our houses, but It's just good
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: to see these schools start get some kind of recognition.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: I just hope he has like another five years there,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: because anybody is gonna come along one of these major
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: schools Florida State, uh or if the right NFL drop.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Imagine if the Cowboys fire Mike McCarthy, They're gonna offer
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Deon Sanders a coaching position. Amazing. So it's just whether
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: or not he's like, nah, I need to build a
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: legacy here first, because if he leaves it, there's you know,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: he brought. He's bringing a lot to that situation. It is.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, but I would wonder if he would even
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: want to do that, That's what I'm saying. And he's primetime,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: he's rich already. Yeah, so I think he's got rap albums. Yeah,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I'd be surprised. I mean, it seems like just a
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: whole nother rejuvenation for him being around the college kids
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: and working on the campus. I can't imagine the pressure
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: of being an NFL coach versus when you at the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: college and the band. It's just a whole nother Are
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: you a football guy, ah, kind of more of a
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: baseball guy. A baseball guy, would you say baseball is
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: your favorite sport. That's what I played, So you like
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: because baseball is a terrible thing to watch them? But
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: do you watch baseball? How about that? Every so often?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's a good thing to just have
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: on in the background. You throw it on and then watch. Lately,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I've been watching just the MLB network, Bro, And then
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: you watch them because they played the old game? Did
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: they pay you no watching? I mean like they have
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: games with Ernie Banks and like that, and you can
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: watch like Joe Morgan and this shit looks crazy. I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: remember seeing me so get Yeah, yeah, they documented was crazy.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I hope they bring that ship was fire. I hope
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: they bring steroids back. Bro. They hitting home runs again.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: They need roids, Bro, They but they hit these pictures.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Too many strikeouts happening in baseball. I mean, but but
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: they like, Bro, they hitting home and there's a what's
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: it a lockout? What is it called? Yeah? They ain't started. Yeah,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: but I still got the video games. Have you ever
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: gone to spring training? No? I wanted to try out though,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: for baseball. I wanted to try out for the Braids.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I want to be on some rudy ship, you know.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Will Ferrell did it, Oh for real? He got onto
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: a spring training team. They let him play for like
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: a week. Yeah, they fooled me because I didn't know
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: that was fake. I was like ships there. I literally
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: wanted to try out and then play one game and
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: then retire. On some you just want to be able
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: to say I got my own jersey. But it's kind
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: of like with cold you want to walk out and play. Though.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah you want to, you want to go, but just
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: the thing, bro, they throw and they like, we actually
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: went to one of the games, bro, and they throwing
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: that ball so fucking hard. Bro, What's what's your position
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: when you play? I was a catcher, short stop, then
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: I was in left field. I got so you just
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: played everything. I was a picture too though. I through
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: three quarters. Yeah, what was the fastest ball you ever threw?
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: That's pretty fucking fast. Yeah. So but I I stopped
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: and once I once I made my first five hundred dollars,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: all beats, I was like, I don't know baseball because
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: for me, I wasn't gonna go straight pro. It's gonna
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: be the college. It's gonna be single double A. It's
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: a struggle. I mean, you could I could have been
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: doing I could have been in Single A or Double
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: A right now, still still trying to get called up.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: You see that ship all the time. You'll be watching
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: a baseball game and they'll be like, eleven year triple
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: A veteran, first time in the major leagues. I got
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: an ICE's knees and all this. Fuck yeah, and then
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: you've been and then you know, that's a different kind
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: of grind chick playing in montor League. Yeah. Different check.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: It's like being a w NBA player. Yeah, man, my god,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: no bro, what's that? That's first pay? But they just
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: first pages. Try to fix that now because I sure hope. Yeah,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: they deserve way more because the wm A players getting
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: fun and they go hard. Though. I feel so bad
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: for them because it's like I just saw something that
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: somebody's signing bonus was more than the entire w NBA's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: salaries combined, every employee. That don't make no sense. It's
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: wild because you in order. Brittany Griner, she was on
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: her way to Russia because that's where she has to
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: go to play to make money. They were paying her
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: a million dollars to play in the Russian league, so
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: in the off season she gets paid a million bucks
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: for the for the season in Russia. Yeah, it's definitely
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: unfair though, Bro, I'm like, how does Diana Tarassi? How
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: do I make more money than Diana Tarassi? How is
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: that even possible? It's Diana Rock She's the greatest female
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: basketb player of all time, She's the female Lebron. They
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: they better. Yeah, it's been a yeah because again that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: the women's soccer team didn't cash out there? Got them right?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Are you a big enough Lebron fan to purchase his shoes? Yes,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: because I have so many pairs of Lebron Yeah, I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: could definitely do that. I got those, the Miami ones,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: the devices, Yeah, was hard. They've been so I know
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: how old I am now because all the Lebron's I
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: used to buy are now on their ten year anniversary,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: so they're re releasing them. So I'm like, I'm living
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: through the anniversary where they're retro and Lebron. Gee. It's
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: some ship that people say is vintage that. I'm like, bro,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: that it's not vantage. Oh yeah, this is all I'm watching.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Teams got this vintage ten deep shirt, vintage bitch, what
• 1:09:25
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• 1:09:28
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• 1:09:31
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  Speaker 1: just they're gonna be up now. So I had to
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: call my boys. I hate is Drake on LRG know
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: He's like, I don't think so, but we're fucking happy.
• 1:09:58
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• 1:10:02
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• 1:10:06
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  Speaker 1: Then you how many day seconds? How many days does
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: thirty thirty four? Is there a city you just won't
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: fucking go to anymore? You're like, I can't say, just tell.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's Cleveland. No, it ain't clean. Turn up
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: in Cleveland, we go to Clean. We're just curious because
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I know, I mean with sometimes it's not even the city.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: It might be the venue. It might be the speakers,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the sound system or something like that. I'm not fucking
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: with you know, but the people is always. Love is
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: just I want them to experience the music. Okay, you've
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: been all over the country. What's your least favorite city
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: you've been to, not even touring wise, just experience wise.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I can't say that. I'll give you mine first. Oh
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: my god, bro, it's either between Mobile, Alabama, m that
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: was god awful or Twin Falls, Idaho terrible place. I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: lived in Boise for twelve months. Mobile was turned, the
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: people was turned. You're looking at it as your live shows.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I just mean your visiting experience. Oh I don't know, man, No,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: it's just always the show. You just visiting and I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: don't know, you're passing through and you're like, God, this
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: place fucking sucks. Oh, I don't want to be. I don't.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: I who lives here? I can't say blythe California terrible place.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I can't. I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: find myself in those kinds of like taking a vacation
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: you regret it. Wow, Yes, I've done that before. Where
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: was it at? And it might not even it has
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with this place. It might just be
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: the experience. The hotel fucking sucked. Me and my wife
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: just went to the dr pictures looked amazing. Hotel was
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: it was nice, it was inclusive, but the food was
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: it was it was like jail food. Yeah, hmm, I
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: can't really, I don't know, man. I think I went
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: to New York thinking I was finna just with last
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: go see some art stuff like in New York, and
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: it just was one of the moments. It was one
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: of the experiences with like the hotels small. I didn't
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: really give small hotels out of the experience. The hotels
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: in New York. People don't know this, but if you go,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: I mean if the people who know no, but you
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: go to New York, the hotels are size of a closet.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: It was it was tiny, and then it was like,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know it was it was. It was like
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: supposed to be one of these kind of like upscale
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: when you walk in, of course it's fact like the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: lobby's super nice. It just then you get to the
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: close it wasn't. And then I was there for like
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: two days. And you know, I'm good when I go
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: to New York. I enjoy however long i'm there. But
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: the entire time I'm there, I'm like, how do these
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: fucking people do this? I just feel like I gotta
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: work a lot. When I get up there, it's like
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: you gotta go. It's not moving so hectic every part
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: of your day, parking your car, the cab, the cab thing,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: and just every little thing is like you're dealing with people.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: You're It's just like it took me a long time
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: to get comfortable going there and not feeling like like
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: I was in a hurry or something like, Yeah, I
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: respect New Yorker is so much because I don't know
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: how they I could. I just couldn't. I had to
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: start hanging out with smoke thiszzle and like be going
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: around moving around seeing stuff. I end up going to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: this amazing museum with my homie Steve O. And then
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: it was like, oh, okay, there's aspects of this why
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like, oh I need to be I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: gotta do it, and I'm doing mad interviews. I'm running
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: back and forth and so it's it's just fun like
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: small places. What about country wise, what's your favorite non
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: United States? This country? Oh? Man, I love Australia. Australia,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I love it. I have heard that if you are
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: of a certain tone that might be yours, that the
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: women in Australia are up for grabs. It's awesome. Man,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Perth is like, Perth reminded me every chickle Heggy is, Ah, no,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's a it's a plethora of going on.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: It's it's very it's it's amazing. Okay what you were saying,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Perth reminded you of my hometown. But it was so
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: the weather and then it's like this the house. It
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: was crazy. I was like, man, I could live here
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: aside from the big as spiders and the birds are
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: to kill you. The birds will kill you. There's some
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: birds over there to get at that ass. So but
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: other than that, bro, we it's food. I eat like
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: over there, Bro, what is the food? Is it like
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: a blooming onion? In fact, it's food. It's like, you know,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: they had this bombing stuff right with this hotel and
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, this shit tastes so fresh. Is
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: it kind of like the US over there? I've heard
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: it's like it's just like the US, but fire, it's
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: people's sleep on it. It was in Melbourne and it
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: was like it felt like New York but you had
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: shows over there. Yeah, we had a full head of
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: the whole tour over there. That's big super Love And
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: it was crazy. I'm fucking doing country Ship Austra in
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Australia and they and it's crazy because we on stage
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm telling well before the shows up like this
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: is I don't even know. We don't know what to expect,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck expect. As soon as we
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: eighty six, they going fucking crazy, you know, and I'm like, Wow,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: more comfortable and came along, motherfucking way, ain't hey man
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: and the tour get your tickets? Seth album? Uh? The
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Girl Talk Project. What's the name of the actual project?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Full Court PRIs Full Court Press that yourself. The currency
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: is on it, but he's not a part of the
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: actual collab. I mean, but just about the fault, the
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: home might have fault. Smoked a whiz shout out to Wiz, Yes,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: how's your relationship with Wiz mainstays because he's like one
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: of the few people in the music industry who, in
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: my opinion, I've been really close with him and will
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: for over a decade now, and I kind of feel
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: like he's always kind of been the same guy. The home,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: he ain't forgot where you come from. It's like all
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: the success, he's still he's still him. Still the we
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: on the tour bus talking ship having fun, and it's
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: it's again. It's like that family reunion kind of vibe
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: and feel. And when we were in the studio, Bro,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: it's not even it ain't no ego driven ship. It's like,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Bro were talking about how things was like this south
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: by Southwest, but it was like being on tour and
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: even the college show with they got locked the seeing
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: it's all this ship. It's like, Bro, we'd have been
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: through some ship and we're still making jam ass music
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: and can laugh about it. So and it's just good
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: to be around it. Like though even the amount of
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: success we gained, it don't change how we are as people.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Side note, how many actual songs did Juni Yellow ever complete?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: For country cousins? Did it even happen or was it
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: just talking to happen? We did that one record, the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: hip hop record, and then I think then we did
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: the the full of Shit record, but I think that
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: was really it. Bro, that's crazy. And now he's making
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: rock music. Yeah, shot, big Chris. Uh. The album is out,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: two albums are out of there. Well you know, well
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: April eighth is when the full Court Press come out.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm just I mean, hopefully we get another one
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: before the end of the year. I mean I might
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: do that for you. Who the fuck knows? Man, who
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: are you a fan of right now? That just gives you,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: like the energy that that you're like, Man, this ship
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: is still good. Like I'm loving with the what this
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: guy is doing. A King Alee dere Silas and these
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: two boys out of Misissippi, and they crushed it. They
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: definitely onto some ship. Man Gamazawa, you know, out of
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. It's a it's another there's a couple few hours.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: I can't think child is major child is major, sup.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: I saw him open for I think yeah, he killed him. Yeah,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: And so it's it's in just the growth and seeing
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: why everybody's kind of had musically right now. It's just like,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody's really the experimental stage too. Yeah for sure.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, but these these young kids don't. I'm looking
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: forward to seeing how you perform the new album. Me too,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: me too, Bro, I'm definitely I'm definitely gonna have to
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: give my vocal cords together because I'm gonna tell you,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: I ain't no way in here I'm be able to
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  Speaker 1: do country ship and then start singing so cool. You're
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: gonna be sweat. I'm gonna be domina. My voice is
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be toreal if I'm turning on. But we're gonna
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it an experience as much as possible, though, Bro,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: there it is big. Crit Appreciate your time, Go support,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Go buy some I'm sure there's merch. Yes, we got
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: all is there gonna be an NFT oh yeah yeah
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: yeah broh yeah yeah. Just don't don't do don't do
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: what Darren Fox from The Fucking Kings did, because they're
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: investigating his ass. He's what one hundred and eighty million
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: dollars and folks, I don't know what he did, but nah,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not. We we're legit and we don't. I mean
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: the album name. You feel like there should be an
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: NFT definitely, Yeah, it was coming. Yeah, we're doing it.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Bro there it is man, big crit appreciate you better,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: always thank you. Fire sure