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Geoff Schwartz on Brendan Sorsby applying for NFL Supplemental Draft, Sorsby worth it for NFL teams to bring him in (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Based by Sean O'Connell show, you were home of the
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Speaker 2: besting side.
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Speaker 1: Of your use.
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Speaker 2: Let's get back to WOC from the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio
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Speaker 2: on ESPN seven and ninety one, am, what kind.
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Speaker 3: Of a pick are you okay with your team bidding
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Speaker 3: on Brendan Soresby in a supplemental draft? The question will
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Speaker 3: be answered, presumably sooner than later, as Brendan Soresby is
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Speaker 3: set to enter the supplemental draft. He has stopped his
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Speaker 3: legal battle. He's not going to try to play a
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Speaker 3: Texas Tech after all the gambling scandal. Jeff Schwartz joins
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Speaker 3: us to talk about it. Jeff in a unique position here.
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Speaker 3: He is a former NFL player, and he also happens
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Speaker 3: to be a sports gambling officionado. Jeff, how are you?
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Speaker 1: I'm good as someone who is that aficionado. I like
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Speaker 1: Portugal to take some more shots.
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Speaker 3: In smetch right now, But how are you doing so
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Speaker 3: far on your World Cup wagers?
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Speaker 1: I'm just tailing my guy Bear. It's so funny, man.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: I don't watch a ton of soccer, but every sport
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Speaker 1: that's sort of the same principles like are true right,
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Speaker 1: Like when you watch sports, you can see like which
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Speaker 1: teams are playing more aggressively, right, It doesn't take a
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Speaker 1: lot to notice that. And like this, Portugal is playing
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Speaker 1: Congo right now, and they Portagal's two shots the entire
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Speaker 1: first half, even though they've controlled the ball eighty percent
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Speaker 1: of the time. Congo's got six shots they have. It's
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Speaker 1: tied at one. It's like, well, yeah, one team's shooting
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Speaker 1: more shots, Like it's not. It's not a mystery sometimes
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Speaker 1: in sports, like one team's playing more aggressive the other team.
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Speaker 1: It's not a mystery why one team's winning or one
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Speaker 1: team one game's tied. You don't have to watch a
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Speaker 1: sport religiously to sort of get the pace of what's happening.
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Speaker 3: I do love what the Olympics in the World Cup
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Speaker 3: do for us in that, you know, for a few weeks,
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Speaker 3: I just feel entitled to become an expert on something
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Speaker 3: I really have no idea about. You know, during the Olympics,
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Speaker 3: I am really really technical on my evaluation of oh yeah,
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Speaker 3: gymnastics and track and field, and then during this World
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Speaker 3: Cup I'm like, oh yeah, let me talk soccer for
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Speaker 3: thirty minutes. Well, the actual soccer people are probably like,
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Speaker 3: this guy's a moron.
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Speaker 1: I haven't done any really soccer coverage for me this
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Speaker 1: this time around, so I'm just watching it when you
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Speaker 1: know it's on TV. Look I things do later say,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be staying in front of TV
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Speaker 1: watching the Olympics to be the Olympics the World Cup.
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Speaker 1: But I mean, if it's on, I'm gonna, you know,
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Speaker 1: tune into I want. I want to be part of
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Speaker 1: the conversation. I have found it. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: they're gaslighting us or the European fans are really being
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Speaker 1: being genuine with their excitement over these NFL stadiums, these
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Speaker 1: games are in. Some of them have no personality once
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Speaker 1: like MetLife Stadium has no personality. It's like the most boring,
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Speaker 1: blandstadium of all time. And these guys coming from Europe
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Speaker 1: like this is the greatest thing I've ever seen in
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Speaker 1: my life. And I start to that out and people
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Speaker 1: were telling me, I guess that the English Premier League
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Speaker 1: teams are not very like nice and on a lot
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Speaker 1: of amenities, just a lot of them are old, and
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Speaker 1: so maybe it's being they're being truthful. They really like seeing,
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Speaker 1: you know, some of these these American football stadiums.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think that. Yeah, it depends on what country
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Speaker 3: we're talking about. But but some of those European football stadiums,
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Speaker 3: European soccer stadiums, they're just old. There's one that's like
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Speaker 3: in a neighborhood. It's yeah, you know so, And that's
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Speaker 3: what promotion relegation does. You can have it like a
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Speaker 3: top level team that's playing in a junior college stadium effectively.
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Speaker 1: So I'm telling you, we got to do the relegation
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Speaker 1: in college football. Can you imagine?
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Speaker 3: I you know, we talked about that when we did
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Speaker 3: our show together. Yes, it's not possible because no one
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Speaker 3: would agree to it, but man, it would be awesome.
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Speaker 3: This if the stakes were that high for teams at
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Speaker 3: the bottom of the SEC, or that high for teams
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Speaker 3: at the top of the Sunbelt Conference, it would just
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Speaker 3: be so fascinating.
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Speaker 1: It would be imagine week you know, twelve, and it's
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Speaker 1: like you have this this game where you know, you
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Speaker 1: have two teams like we see here in the SEC
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Speaker 1: from last year, Like what if you had like it
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Speaker 1: would be South Carolina Arkansas, right, and they just they're
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Speaker 1: playing each other at the end of the year, and
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Speaker 1: the loser has to go to the to the to
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Speaker 1: the Conference USA.
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Speaker 3: For a year, like James Madison is in the SEC
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Speaker 3: this year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be incredible. It would just be incredible,
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Speaker 1: incredible action. We love it very much.
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Speaker 3: I actually the I think it was Mauricio Poshattino, who's
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Speaker 3: the US men's national team coach, who was talking about that,
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Speaker 3: said that because you don't have promotion and relegation in
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Speaker 3: American sports, you just fire coaches instead because the stakes.
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Speaker 3: That's where the stakes are. It's like do you get
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Speaker 3: to keep your job or not? And I thought that
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Speaker 3: was an interesting observation from someone who obviously has a
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Speaker 3: much different perspective.
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Speaker 1: The fact that you could know the coach's name. I
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Speaker 1: have no idea.
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Speaker 3: I know his name because I have two very very
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Speaker 3: strong grievances against him. Oh and uh, we'll air those
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Speaker 3: on Friday in the air grievances on the show. But
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Speaker 3: one of them, the most important one is because he
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Speaker 3: left our local guy. He left the moon man, Diego
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Speaker 3: Luna from Rial Salt Lake. He left him off the roster.
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Speaker 1: Well, you have an area of a grievances.
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Speaker 3: Segment, Yeah, on Fridays.
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's like that's right in my alley.
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Speaker 3: It's you know what, like we might we might call you.
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Speaker 3: It's one thirty every Friday. We might call you on
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Speaker 3: a Friday and just be like, hey, we haven't got
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Speaker 3: a lot from the listeners. What what's your grievances?
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Speaker 1: Where to begin? Where to begin? I could I have
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Speaker 1: an airing of many grievances, could begin at any point.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, and I feel again, like more and more every day,
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Speaker 1: like like Larry David, just everything around me. You are
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Speaker 1: to just hate everything around me.
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Speaker 3: You are like the gigantic Larry David for sure.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get Marathon to watch Curve and she
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Speaker 1: won't do it, and I'm like, why why not?
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Speaker 3: Well, she's already married to Curb, You're in there, she
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Speaker 3: doesn't need to watch it.
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Speaker 1: But I'm like, I think like Marathon would resonate very
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Speaker 1: much with Susie. I think that would be like her like.
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Speaker 3: That's not a flattering comparison for your not comparing.
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Speaker 1: Them per se, but I feel like the like her
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Speaker 1: suit's sort of f you attitude would would be would
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Speaker 1: we mesh very well with my wife?
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Speaker 3: By the way, the PFL officially announced the Charlotte card today.
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Speaker 1: Oh the Charlotte card today. Oh man, who we who we?
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Speaker 1: Who we cardon up here? You gotta take a look.
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Speaker 3: Here Ryan Battle or Dalton Roster. Who you got in
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Speaker 3: the main event.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Man. For
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Speaker 1: those who are maybe you are like, I don't really do
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Speaker 1: mm A and I get I don't watch, I don't
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Speaker 1: I don't watch UFC, I didn't watch this weekend. I
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Speaker 1: just have never had much interest in it. But I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you what. That was so much fun, Like if
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Speaker 1: you can go in person, it just was like it
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Speaker 1: was I just didn't know what to expect, and it
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Speaker 1: was like when it started getting going because the fights
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Speaker 1: just it just happened. When after I thought it would
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Speaker 1: be like a break between them, I was like, nope,
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Speaker 1: they just rolling through and they just he just goes
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Speaker 1: and goes and goes and goes. It was so much fun, dude,
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to go again.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited to come down and hang out the
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Speaker 3: task at hand. The matter at hand here is as
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Speaker 3: Portugal just had a goal called back for offside. It
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Speaker 3: looks like Brendan Soresby after that two weeks saga of
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Speaker 3: you know Texas Tech versus the world has just waved
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Speaker 3: the white flag and said, all right, fine were I
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm not gonna do this. I'm gonna go into
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Speaker 3: the NFL Supplemental Draft. And that's part of the reason
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Speaker 3: I wanted to bring you on, because the supplemental draft
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Speaker 3: is like, it's kind of convoluted, it's a little bit
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Speaker 3: weird compared to the regular draft, right where the the
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Speaker 3: teams get sorted into these three buckets and then the
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Speaker 3: order from those three buckets is pulled randomly, but ultimately, uh,
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Speaker 3: everyone gets a chance to bid a future draft pick
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Speaker 3: on Brendan Soresby. Where is like, what is the price
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Speaker 3: do you think in this supplement final draft to get
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Speaker 3: Brandon Sorees because next year he was probably gonna be
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Speaker 3: a first round draft pick.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think so you're the thinking about it
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Speaker 1: this way, right, So when you when you bid on
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Speaker 1: him this year, you give up that pick next year, right, correct?
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Speaker 1: So you have to figure that just from like the
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Speaker 1: base like level, like it's a big quarterback draft right
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Speaker 1: next season, and if you're a team or you would
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Speaker 1: give up a first this year to give up your
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Speaker 1: first next year, right, Like you don't know how good
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be this year. You don't know where you're
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Speaker 1: gonna finish. You'll know if you want to trade that
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Speaker 1: pick eventually. You just don't know any of these things, right,
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Speaker 1: You don't know. You just have no idea, right, just
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Speaker 1: you don't know yet, so you will give up a
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Speaker 1: first Is he thatac of a player to give him
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Speaker 1: a first round pick in the future? Four? But what
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Speaker 1: makes the discussion so difficult is that he has this
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Speaker 1: Gamway addition we talked about last week. I feel like
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Speaker 1: it's interesting how the addiction sort of went away, right,
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Speaker 1: Like Texas Tech was so vocal and like, guys, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if he can play, like he's got this addiction,
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Speaker 1: Like we're gonna help him out. Now it's like, ah, well,
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Speaker 1: I guess you go in the NFL. He'll suit up
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Speaker 1: and play. He'll be fine, which I think we talked
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Speaker 1: about like he clearly has an addiction, but it felt
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Speaker 1: like they were using that as the crux for like
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Speaker 1: why he shouldn't be punished at all, And now all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden he's out of school and it's like, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: I guess he's fine. Now we can go put an
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Speaker 1: NFL like. It just never made sense to me how
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Speaker 1: they used the addiction to try to get it made
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Speaker 1: sense A shit. I just thought it was a wrong
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Speaker 1: application of mental health right in this situation. And now
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's fine. But you have to
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Speaker 1: worry if you're the NFL, because if his addiction is
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Speaker 1: as strong, right as text type people would let us believe.
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Speaker 1: I'm not thinking it's not strong. I think some of
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Speaker 1: the wagers who was making were very addictive behavior. What
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Speaker 1: if he does it in the NFL, he's banned for
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Speaker 1: life in the NFL, right, or at least band a year,
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Speaker 1: right for a year? So are you going to draft
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Speaker 1: a guy with a high draft picked who might who
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Speaker 1: might wager in the NFL? Right, who might have addictions
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Speaker 1: so deep and so strong that he cost himself his
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Speaker 1: NFL career. That's a huge role in this. Right, they
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Speaker 1: are going to be NFL owners, and this is this
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Speaker 1: is a decision, by the way that we'll be made
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Speaker 1: at the ownership level. Right, this is a non decision
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Speaker 1: that will be made solely by the coach or general manager.
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Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot of NFL owners that
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Speaker 1: just will have them off their board just we're not
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Speaker 1: drafting him. There's not, So there's a limited pool. I
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Speaker 1: think of players that to be teams that would already
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Speaker 1: that would draft him. And on top of that, you
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Speaker 1: have I you know, maybe half of those teams that
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Speaker 1: would say he's just not gonna he's not draftable for us,
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Speaker 1: our our our ownership won't let us do it. So
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Speaker 1: I think it's a small number. I think it's I've
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Speaker 1: always fought a fourth round pick or you know, no
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Speaker 1: earlier than the fourth round. It's a day three pick,
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Speaker 1: right seohn day three pick that feels about right, which.
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Speaker 3: At the end end of the day could prove to
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Speaker 3: be an incredible value if you're willing to take that risk.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, like the Browns have already said we're out,
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Speaker 1: You're like, like, like, what do you know? I don't.
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Speaker 1: I just don't. I just don't know if it's worth it,
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Speaker 1: you know, if the addiction is as strong. Look, the
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Speaker 1: NFL team is going to do all the background check,
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Speaker 1: all the work. How about Texas tech bro wrote real quickly,
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Speaker 1: they put it that video.
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Speaker 3: That video is going to be studied as the worst
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Speaker 3: PR move in the history of college football.
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Speaker 1: And I argued at the time, this is like four
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Speaker 1: days ago, right, like, what what is that? What is
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Speaker 1: the outcome that Texas Tech feels like, man, we we were,
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Speaker 1: this is worth it all. I would have win a championship,
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Speaker 1: of course, right, but their difference is not as good
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Speaker 1: this season, right, and Soursby was good last year, not
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Speaker 1: not great, and they were I don't winning a championship,
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Speaker 1: so I I don't even know, like what would have
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Speaker 1: been worth this whole hassle.
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Speaker 3: Well, that was kind of my initial I don't know
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Speaker 3: if outrage is the right word for it, but it
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Speaker 3: made so little sense to me that you are dragging
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Speaker 3: your own reputation through the mud. You are putting all
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Speaker 3: your other players, your coach, your athletic department, You're putting
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Speaker 3: all these people in this really terrible position for what
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Speaker 3: for what outcome? For what player? Right? I mean if
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Speaker 3: this was like Reggie Bush, it would still be questionable
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Speaker 3: for Brendan Soresby. It made so little sense.
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Speaker 1: To me, And I get like, you know, you have
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Speaker 1: a situation where you're you're you're you paid all this
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Speaker 1: money right for this quarterback, and you're a situation where
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Speaker 1: you think you're really close and you know, I get
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Speaker 1: I gen't want to defend him. I get that, but
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Speaker 1: it just it it didn't make sense at the time.
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Speaker 1: It makes sense now. And it seems very much like
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Speaker 1: the the Big Twelve was ready to go to battle
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Speaker 1: over this.
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Speaker 3: They were, and the rest of college football was too
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Speaker 3: if the Big Twelve wasn't gonna be able to do so.
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Speaker 1: And I see, I see the pushback on this, like, oh,
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Speaker 1: he's just young, and and you know there's there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of addiction in young men, and gamble is one
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Speaker 1: of them. And then how there's all these ads out
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Speaker 1: there for all these different sports books, and you know,
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Speaker 1: how can we as a society judge a young man
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Speaker 1: for for this? And I'm I've simply all those things, right,
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Speaker 1: I know people that have had gambling addictions and have
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Speaker 1: gone to you have to rehab and whatnot, and it's
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Speaker 1: a it's a real thing, right, just like everything else
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Speaker 1: that we have that there could be addictions, right, So
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Speaker 1: I sympathize with that, But I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: us want some sort of uniform rules in place, right
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Speaker 1: for college sports and in the different degrees of it, right.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that I want as many as maybe
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Speaker 1: you do, but there needs be something, right. I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of people looked at this case as it's
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Speaker 1: a very black and white that he broke and if
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Speaker 1: nothing happens for him, there's just no chance that we
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Speaker 1: ever get a system that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: Right, So like, if that Pandora's box opened after we've
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Speaker 3: opened all the other ones, yeah, if that one also opened,
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Speaker 3: then yeah, I mean the precedent would have been really terrible.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But by the way, I that's another thing that I think, hopefully,
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Speaker 3: hopefully we use this and I know it won't happen,
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Speaker 3: but I hope we do use this as kind of
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Speaker 3: a springboard to look at all the other things. Right.
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Speaker 3: It's like people are like, this is the hard fast
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Speaker 3: rule that you cannot break if you want to play
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Speaker 3: college football, and everyone was in agreement on that except
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Speaker 3: for Texas Tech. Like everyone in the country is just like, well,
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Speaker 3: you can't do that in play. But when it comes
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Speaker 3: to like, well you can't beat your girlfriend and still play,
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Speaker 3: people are like, oh, well yeah, okay, yeah, you can
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Speaker 3: drive drunk and still play. You can cheat academically and
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Speaker 3: still play. That was that was another thing where I'm
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Speaker 3: just like, all right, when I understand people wanting to
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Speaker 3: fight this battle. I think that there are there should
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Speaker 3: be more things on the list of the black and white,
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Speaker 3: hard fast you cannot do this and get away with
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Speaker 3: it rules, because ultimately, being an athlete is a privilege.
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Speaker 3: It's not something that you have a right to do.
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Speaker 3: I never was given the rights to be a starter
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Speaker 3: for Utah football. It's a privilege to be able to
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Speaker 3: like earn that right. It's it's a special thing, and
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Speaker 3: if you don't live up to the requirements of that
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Speaker 3: special thing, you shouldn't get to do it. And I
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Speaker 3: think the requirements should be more strict. But gambling is
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Speaker 3: the one is the hill that everyone was willing to
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Speaker 3: die on.
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Speaker 1: So a couple of things here, right, I really I
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Speaker 1: thought this was just an engagement farming tweet. But people
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Speaker 1: will will always say there's more outrage on the internet
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Speaker 1: for Brendon soresb than when someone hits their wife or
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Speaker 1: something the other, and there often is. But the reason
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Speaker 1: why is because we all agree hitting a woman is
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Speaker 1: like the worst thing ever. There's no debate on that, right,
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Speaker 1: Like what are we debatings Like yeah, lock the guy out,
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Speaker 1: but we we all agree on that. The sourcebe thing
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Speaker 1: there's like debate because we don't all agree that he
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Speaker 1: should be punished, right. So that's why there's more discussion
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Speaker 1: about certain topics other ones I'm with you on on
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Speaker 1: you know, the harshness of those crimes and what has
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Speaker 1: to be done on college sports. The reason why I
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Speaker 1: think the NFL, let's use them for example, doesn't punish
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Speaker 1: as harsh for domestic violence then gambling is because it's
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Speaker 1: gonna sound crude, but I think that's really the truth
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Speaker 1: is the NFL doesn't view domestic violence incidents as integrity
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Speaker 1: of the game issues. Right, it's integrity of the player,
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Speaker 1: but of the game. It's not right. They're not to
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Speaker 1: do with Sundays, where the NFL views gambling very much
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Speaker 1: as an issue that affects the potential for the games
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Speaker 1: to be the altered. Right, And that's the NFL is thinking.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way they
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Speaker 1: feel about it. I think it's it'd be really hard
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Speaker 1: for college football that does have a CBA, that doesn't
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Speaker 1: have a union to just legally like say you can't
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Speaker 1: play if you have, you know, a sexual assault on
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Speaker 1: your record. You can't play if you have this and
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Speaker 1: that I think it comes down to individual schools saying
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Speaker 1: we're not not having you on our team if you
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Speaker 1: do that. Like, that's where that has to come from,
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Speaker 1: right Sean. And it has to come from the school
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Speaker 1: saying we're no, you're out, you're done. And some do,
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Speaker 1: some don't. But I think it's not coming down to
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Speaker 1: the schools if if if they.
17:29
Speaker 3: But that's kind of my point. That's something that we
17:30
Speaker 3: should all agree on it. Oh, I agree with I.
17:33
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that, and if any part
17:40
Speaker 1: of it. With the gambling, it's very black and white, right,
17:42
Speaker 1: like did they do it or not? With domestic violence,
17:46
Speaker 1: it has to go through the court system, right, so
17:48
Speaker 1: like how long do you wait? You know, by the
17:52
Speaker 1: time it's done, the player might already be exhausted eligibility,
17:55
Speaker 1: like you know, like you have to what do you do?
17:57
Speaker 1: Suspend them immediately? And then it's like, oh, well they
17:59
Speaker 1: didn't do it, and then what happens then? So I
18:01
Speaker 1: think this is why it's just so hard to have
18:05
Speaker 1: a uniform rule. I I agree with you, right, I
18:08
Speaker 1: think we all agree on that. But how do you
18:10
Speaker 1: actually implement that in practicality? I think was really hard.
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Speaker 1: That's why the leagues haven't done it or schools haven't
18:15
Speaker 1: done it. Obviously there are schools that have thrown players out,
18:18
Speaker 1: you know, that have been charged or been accused that
18:21
Speaker 1: is that has that has happened, but not in the
18:24
Speaker 1: way that that you're talking about with, just like you
18:25
Speaker 1: get banned from playing football again.
18:28
Speaker 3: Speaking of the court system, are you surprised that there
18:32
Speaker 3: has not been any kind of like criminal element to
18:34
Speaker 3: this Sooresby thing. He admitted to gambling underage, Yeah, and
18:38
Speaker 3: it is criminal to gamble on on sports when you
18:43
Speaker 3: have some kind of insider information. I mean, kay Shawn
18:47
Speaker 3: Boudi was criminally charged, had those charges dropped, but that
18:52
Speaker 3: you know, states get to decide their own thing and
18:54
Speaker 3: prosecutors get to decide whether they want to do it.
18:56
Speaker 3: Are are you surprised that Brendon Soorsby, who is like,
19:00
Speaker 3: I mean, he was like interstate commerce. He's like, it's
19:03
Speaker 3: a it's a freaking rico case from the Sopranos. He
19:05
Speaker 3: was sending money to people to disguise his own identity
19:09
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. But from the criminal sense that
19:11
Speaker 3: there's been no no conversation about that at all.
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Speaker 1: It seems well, a couple of things. One is he
19:16
Speaker 1: didn't he didn't. He didn't fix the games, right, So
19:21
Speaker 1: that's not part of the discussion right where that that
19:23
Speaker 1: obviously comes into a play a lot of times, right
19:26
Speaker 1: where you know, you see the guys getting arrested are
19:28
Speaker 1: the ones that fix their games, right, So he certainly
19:32
Speaker 1: broke some rules, Sean, I don't think that a prosecutor
19:38
Speaker 1: feels very strongly about charging some of those rules, right.
19:42
Speaker 1: I mean we know that, you know, there are some
19:44
Speaker 1: rules that are written that you know, you just they
19:46
Speaker 1: are what they are and they're there, but you know,
19:48
Speaker 1: a prosecutor does not really go to charge you for those.
19:51
Speaker 1: It feels like that's the sort of situation here where like,
19:53
Speaker 1: is it really worth charging Brendon Sooresby for interstate commerce?
19:58
Speaker 1: You know, like a level whatever, like the lowest level
20:01
Speaker 1: felony is for five grand he sent out of state?
20:04
Speaker 1: Like that really worth the resources to do that? So
20:08
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll ever be charged for anything, because again,
20:10
Speaker 1: he didn't fix the games, right, That's why I think
20:12
Speaker 1: number one, he just just won't be charged. Yeah, there's
20:16
Speaker 1: there's things here, and you know this nine thousand dollars
20:19
Speaker 1: number I keep hearing this number, right, he bet nine
20:21
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, So that doesn't mean that he he took
20:27
Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars out of his account and put it
20:30
Speaker 1: into gambling count and lost it. All. That just means
20:32
Speaker 1: he gambled, you know, nine thousand dollars total. Yes, So
20:37
Speaker 1: like I'm sure I could pull mine up, but I
20:39
Speaker 1: probably have six figures of I've not put six figures,
20:43
Speaker 1: trust me, into my gambling accounts. Like, but that's just
20:46
Speaker 1: like you know, you know, a given day, I have,
20:49
Speaker 1: you know, wager on this on this baseball game right now,
20:52
Speaker 1: this Virginia Tech North Carolin, I got the over in
20:54
Speaker 1: this college baseball game. The win's blowing out like twenty
20:56
Speaker 1: five miles an hour. So like I have one hundred
20:58
Speaker 1: dollars on him a right, so my count shows a
21:00
Speaker 1: bete hundred dollars today doesn't mean a deposit a hundred dollars.
21:03
Speaker 1: I think part of it is, like it's actually not
21:05
Speaker 1: with a ton of money he deposited into accounts, So
21:07
Speaker 1: are you going to go after him for ten grand
21:10
Speaker 1: I think that's probably why, Sean, there's not been a
21:12
Speaker 1: criminal case brought here. It's just really kind of a
21:15
Speaker 1: small potatoes thing. The salacious part of it is, of
21:18
Speaker 1: course that he did this wall being, you know quarterback
21:21
Speaker 1: in Indiana.
21:24
Speaker 3: Well, is this who's going to take him? Like, let's
21:29
Speaker 3: agree that it's a fourth or fifth or sixth round pick,
21:31
Speaker 3: whatever kind of doesn't matter. Just that's a curiosity thing.
21:34
Speaker 3: Is it going to be a team that's like, we
21:37
Speaker 3: can take these risks because our reputation is such that
21:41
Speaker 3: nobody questions us. Or is it going to be the
21:43
Speaker 3: opposite where it's just like we're the kind of team
21:46
Speaker 3: where the jail Blazers, where the you know, the the Jets,
21:49
Speaker 3: where the team that always does these stupid hair brained things,
21:53
Speaker 3: and and so we're going to be the ones to
21:55
Speaker 3: take this risk.
21:56
Speaker 1: All right? So good question. There's two teams, two ideas
22:03
Speaker 1: of teams, right that would do this. That the Browns, right,
22:05
Speaker 1: we need a quarterback, right, The Cardinals, you know, a
22:09
Speaker 1: team like that, right, just like needs a quarterback. That's
22:12
Speaker 1: certainly a possibility. But I also think there's gonna be
22:17
Speaker 1: a team with a veteran quarterback that that's looking to
22:20
Speaker 1: replace that guy in a few years. And if you
22:23
Speaker 1: get brand soors be for like a fifth round pick,
22:26
Speaker 1: I think you do it right. Like, let's say you're
22:29
Speaker 1: here's a Lions for example, right, Jared Goff is getting
22:32
Speaker 1: up in age, all right, and maybe you've looked at
22:34
Speaker 1: brand Soorsby. You love, you love the kid, right, you would.
22:38
Speaker 1: Normally it's been a first round pick on him. They
22:40
Speaker 1: get it for a fourth round pick. I think it's
22:42
Speaker 1: gonna be very exciting for a lot of teams to
22:44
Speaker 1: do so. I think that you have two camps, right,
22:47
Speaker 1: you have the camp of we need a guy right now.
22:50
Speaker 1: But again, those teams are not going to be bit
22:53
Speaker 1: a high draft pick on him because they neither their
22:54
Speaker 1: picks next year. So very curious how this ends up
22:59
Speaker 1: will be. You know, I think some draft is not
23:00
Speaker 1: till the middle of July, I believe. So there's still
23:03
Speaker 1: all the time for this to play out. He has
23:06
Speaker 1: a pro day, I believe they said July tenth, which
23:09
Speaker 1: will be heavily attended.
23:12
Speaker 3: Well, see how it plays out with Brandon Soresby. We'll
23:14
Speaker 3: be talking football with Jeff Schwartz. You should come to
23:18
Speaker 3: You should come to Dallas for Big twelve media days
23:20
Speaker 3: just for fun.
23:21
Speaker 1: When is it it's I think it might be the
23:22
Speaker 1: same time. I'm worried there is it.
23:24
Speaker 3: It's before it's on the seventh to eighth and uh.
23:28
Speaker 1: I get in on the Uh do you have the ninth?
23:32
Speaker 1: Well bumping up, dude, Where where's it at the Star Star? Yeah,
23:38
Speaker 1: I'm staying there. I'm staying at the Omni and that's
23:40
Speaker 1: where that's where we're staying. When you come back to Dallas,
23:44
Speaker 1: you're staying there. No, oh no, or I'm staying there
23:48
Speaker 1: like on Thursday, that's on the ninth. That's why I
23:50
Speaker 1: show up at the Star.
23:51
Speaker 3: Well, just show up on Wednesday instead.
23:54
Speaker 1: The Star is such a good it's such a it's
23:55
Speaker 1: a great It's just a great I've been there one
23:58
Speaker 1: hundred times because of my connection to Duke of Dallas.
24:02
Speaker 1: It's such a great idea. I wish every city built
24:06
Speaker 1: something like the Star where you have obviously the you know,
24:09
Speaker 1: the training facility for the cowboys, a great hotel, and
24:12
Speaker 1: they're just like bars and restaurants and things to do.
24:16
Speaker 1: Like it's not I'm trying to shopping, but who cares
24:18
Speaker 1: about that? But like the food's good, Like the food's
24:21
Speaker 1: good around there. They got a little a little club there,
24:24
Speaker 1: got a cigar bar in the bottom of the one
24:26
Speaker 1: of the steakhouse.
24:26
Speaker 3: Is there, very good, Maybe we'll see you, but in
24:31
Speaker 3: any case, always a pleasure for having me on the shelf.
24:34
Speaker 3: Thank you.
24:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, buddy, take care of a good week.
24:36
Speaker 3: That's Jeff Schwartz, college football Insider, NFL Insider, sports gambling
24:41
Speaker 3: insider on the Brendon Sowsby situation