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Ryan Pineda - Entrepreneur & Real Estate Investor | Don't Go Broke Trying To Get Rich · Success Story with Scott Clary

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  My early stages were way harder than I would guess 99.9% of people.
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  Ryan Veneta began as a professional baseball player with the Oakland A's before pivoting to real estate,
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  where he's invested over $100 million.
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  I was 21 years old when I started business career.
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  My career wasn't an entrepreneur at that time, it was as a baseball player.
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  I couldn't depend on my parents.
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  I had to depend on God for everything, because I had nothing.
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  As the founder of Seven Businesses generating seven to eight figures and a social media powerhouse
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  with over two million followers and one billion views, Ryan inspires others to achieve success
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  through the wealthy way.
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  So, I ask in prayer, what should I do next?
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  I was a substitute teacher making a hundred bucks a day, because that was the only thing I could
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  figure out that I couldn't actually make me money.
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  And I did that. I probably lived off, call it, 20 grand a year, for about three years.
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  I was in a way worse position than anybody that I've ever met.
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  In terms of how much I was making and the things I did.
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  And I had to figure out side hustles and things just to survive to continue the dream.
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  I think budgeting time and money and resource is so important to this.
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  And honestly, if you're doing everything right, it's just now compounding time.
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  Ryan is on a mission to share his story and empower others to build wealth and purpose.
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  This is Ryan Panita, and this is his story.
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  A lot of people go broke on every aspect of their life trying to get rich.
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  It's hard to get a rich person give themselves a prize, because they think they got it all.
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  It's to be really great at something.
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  You got to really focus and go on.
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  Welcome to success story. I'm your host, Scott Clare.
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  The success story podcast is part of the HubSpot podcast network.
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  because at the end of the day, everybody has to figure out how to talk about the product
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  or you're a solo printer, you have to market.
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  Now marketers have a tough job because it's really hard to describe what a marketer is.
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  Because if you think about what a day in the life of a marketer is,
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  you have to generate leads, you have to score them,
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  you have to contact them, you have to create content, you have to gather data.
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  And tomorrow, you have to do it all over again.
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  And then you have to wonder if it's even working.
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  How do you make sure that one does not outbalance the other
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  or take over your life more than others?
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  Because you care about business, you care about real estate, you care about faith,
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  you care about family, do you believe in balance?
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  Or do you feel like there's some things that certain seasons in your life
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  have to take precedence over the other?
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  Have you wrestled with it with this kind of thought?
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  This is a really deep question, especially for the first one,
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  because I guess trying to explain my thought philosophy is going to be
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  somewhat hard and off to explain through some stories.
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  But long story short, I believe you can have balance,
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  but I also don't think you should have balance.
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  And the reason is, I wrote a book called The Wealthy Way,
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  and it's kind of about that.
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  Time management and balance for all the areas of your life.
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  At the end of the day, if you're working all the time and you're making great money,
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  but you're losing your health and you have a heart attack or you get divorced
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  or you have no faith and you're spiritually dead.
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  Well, dude, it doesn't even matter.
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  Why'd you even spend all this time working?
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  It literally means nothing, right?
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  No amount of money is going to save you from your health if you're at the end of your day.
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  And I've had many guys who have really worked and ruined their families,
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  and they neglected their family throughout the whole time of building,
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  and it's like, dude, that ain't it.
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  Would you go back in time and do it differently?
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  And they're like, yeah, I mean, it wasn't worth it.
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  So on that end, I think that yes, you should have balance in all these different areas.
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  The question becomes, well, man, how do you prioritize which one in what season?
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  Because that's what we were talking about before.
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  It's like, well, you know, when you're in build season,
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  you know, you kind of put off some other things while you're in build season.
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  And that's the part that I say, no, I mean, that part I disagree with.
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  And to actually just make my philosophy really simple,
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  you know, you mentioned faith as like a big part of what I do.
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  And, you know, you saw us having a meeting.
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  We were actually having a meeting about everything we're going to do
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  on the faith side of things, you know, next year in 2025 with all of our events for a non-profit.
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  And, you know, there's a Bible verse.
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  It's Matthew 6.33.
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  Seek first the kingdom and his righteousness.
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  And all of these things will be added to you as well.
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  So my belief is actually anti-balance in that.
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  If I only focus on the kingdom, if I just focus on pursuing Jesus,
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  the rest will all be added to me.
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  That's what the Bible promises.
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  So I got to really ask myself, do I believe what the Bible says?
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  Or, you know, do I think that I need to like reinvent it?
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  Because that's what a lot of entrepreneurs do who say they're Christian.
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  They try to reinvent it.
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  They say, well, I got this thing over here that I'm doing.
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  And, you know, maybe I'll make some time for God.
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  That is literally the opposite of what the Bible says.
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  The Bible says devote all of your attention, all of your heart, all of your mind,
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  all of your soul on Jesus.
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  And the rest will just happen.
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  I don't need to plan it out, but that's a hard thought to wrestle with
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  when you can barely pay rent next month.
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  So you have to understand that when I want to pull,
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  I want to pull this wisdom because I think it's beautiful.
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  But I also want to understand how this applies to somebody who's in their early stages of building.
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  Because also when you first start out,
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  it's very difficult for you to think of anything outside of even money.
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  Forget it, even like God, Jesus.
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  It doesn't matter what you believe.
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  At the beginning, you believe that you just want to make a lot of money.
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  And you realize that money doesn't mean that much anymore.
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  And then you want like freedom.
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  And then you eventually want to not even have to worry about money or even slightly working.
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  You just want to have complete freedom to choose whatever you want to do.
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  And I think that that's what most people optimize for when they start.
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  And then they go on this journey and then they start to evolve.
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  And then they get to where you are.
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  Where now you can say I can focus on Jesus and all the other things will come
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  after I focus on God and Jesus.
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  But when you're starting, it's very difficult to put that principle into practice
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  because you just want to optimize on work and you want to optimize on hustle
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  and you want to optimize on closing your next client.
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  So what's the lesson for somebody early stage in starting that is like,
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  that's a great idea in theory.
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  But ultimately, I have to make my business work.
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  Yeah.
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  Throw one for my energy towards.
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  Well, let me say this.
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  You know, people have asked me, dude, you know, what about in the early stages,
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  where you work in 80 hour weeks, what were you doing?
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  What was life like?
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  Well, I can tell you my early stages were way harder than I would guess 99.9% of people's.
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  So, you know, I was 21 years old when I started, let's say, my adult business career, you know,
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  had no money.
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  I was a minor league baseball player making 1200 bucks a month.
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  That was only half the year too.
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  So I made literally $7,000 a year.
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  That was my income.
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  And, you know, I was a Christian then.
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  I grew up in church.
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  I understood like God always comes first, not my career.
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  And you know, my career wasn't an entrepreneur at that time.
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  It was as a baseball player, right?
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  And I had no idea how I was going to pay for bills.
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  Because also in 2010, we just came out of the great recession.
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  There were no jobs.
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  They're, you know, my parents lost everything.
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  I couldn't depend on my parents.
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  They lost the home I grew up in.
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  Literally, I had no support or income other than
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  $7,000 a year.
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  And that wasn't even guaranteed.
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  Because guess what?
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  I could get cut tomorrow, right?
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  Like, it's not my business.
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  You know, if I'm not good enough, think you're rid of me.
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  So I had to depend on God for everything.
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  Because I had nothing.
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  And it's like, all right, well, how am I going to make money?
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  Lord, like, what do you want me to do?
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  So that's the first thing that I always do.
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  It's like, I ask in prayer, what should I do next?
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  And that's every step of the way, whether I was broke,
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  whether it's today, and I'm still like, well,
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  okay, look at all these different opportunities.
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  How do I discern what's the best opportunity, right?
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  But long story short, in those early stages,
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  man, I lived on, I became a realtor in 2010 as well,
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  sucked, made like no money doing it.
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  I was a substitute teacher making $100 a day.
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  Because that was the only thing I could figure out
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  that I couldn't actually make me money.
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  And I did that.
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  I probably lived off, call it 20 grand a year
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  for about, man, three years.
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  And I ended up getting married during that time too.
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  So this is another myth.
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  So I have no excuse.
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  I mean, look, you can't hear to hear the truth.
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  But that's one of the things that drives me crazy
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  is when guys wait, especially in their single,
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  they're building their careers, and I'm like, guys,
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  you can never say that you have to do it,
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  because I'm telling you what I did.
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  And I was in a way worse position than anybody that I've ever met today.
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  In terms of how much I was making and the things I did,
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  because I still pursued playing baseball for eight seasons,
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  making $7,000 a year.
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  Eight years from 21 to 27, I was married,
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  I was making that money,
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  and I had to figure out side hustles and things
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  just to survive to continue the dream.
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  And that's what I did.
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  I started flipping couches,
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  which was a revelation from God.
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  I didn't learn that on YouTube.
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  There was no TikTok.
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  It was just this idea that he planted in my head.
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  I'm like, oh, I could probably flip couches and make money.
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  And then, you know, I remember I was praying
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  on our one year anniversary.
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  This was in 2014.
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  I was like, all right,
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  flipping couches has made me like good money,
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  but I'm not going to do this the rest of my life.
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  What should I do?
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  And then I hear real estate.
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  And I'm like, real estate?
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  I already failed at real estate.
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  What do you mean real estate?
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  And then sure enough,
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  it was flipping houses.
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  It was different than being a realtor.
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  And so I maxed out all of our credit cards for 50 grand,
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  flipped our first house,
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  and you know, I made $25,000.
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  It was crazy.
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  But that then led to the next stage,
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  you know, and a flip A making a bunch of money.
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  And then COVID hits,
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  and I'm about to lose it all,
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  because I had 50 house flips going on.
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  And, you know,
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  they're talking about everything crash in during COVID.
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  They're like, oh, well,
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  the economy's going to burn all the stuff.
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  And I'm like, dang,
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  I got like $20 million worth of property right now.
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  And it could all go to zero.
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  And I can lose everything I've ever built.
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  I was like, what do you want me to do, God?
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  And I'm like,
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  all of a sudden, I hear YouTube.
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  I'm like, now ain't the time to be making YouTube videos.
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  Like, I got way bigger problems
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  than making YouTube's and TikTok's.
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  But that was what I heard.
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  And then sure enough,
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  that leads to, you know,
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  all these other things.
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  And then, you know,
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  my point is, every step of the way,
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  I've been seeking God first,
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  and he's always provided even with nothing.
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  And, you know,
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  so I just want to make sure people understand that
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  this is not something to pursue later.
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  I don't think a lot of people think that way, though.
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  I don't think a lot of...
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  No one thinks that way.
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  I don't think a lot of...
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  Like as you're saying,
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  I'm being like super pragmatic.
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  I don't think many entrepreneurs
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  seek inspiration in God before they build a business.
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  And why do 99% of entrepreneurs fail?
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  Because they do what everyone else does.
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  So when you say to somebody,
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  and this is a very interesting topic,
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  because I've actually spoken to a lot of,
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  I've spoken to a lot of rabbis,
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  preachers about Godlessness
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  and society and its implications.
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  But it's never been from the lens
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  of God and business together
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  and helping that creative process
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  to build something new.
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  Yeah.
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  So when you sort of ignore what everyone else does,
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  and you're not looking for product market fit
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  in a traditional way.
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  Yeah.
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  You're not going on Reddit
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  and solving problems that people have.
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  Yeah, and all of a...
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  All of a...
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  What else a huge tam?
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Exactly.
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  That's what everyone does.
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  So what you have this...
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  You have this belief system.
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  You have this faith system.
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  You have this idea that comes to you.
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  What's your process for making it work?
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  Yeah, great question.
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  So to talk about the first part,
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  you said of like everybody's doing it the same way.
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  Like I said, why would you...
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  Why would you be surprised
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  when everyone has the same results?
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  Most entrepreneurs fail.
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  They have to go get another job.
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  90 plus percent of people are living paycheck to paycheck.
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  So currently, the way that you're told doesn't work.
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  That's clear, right?
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  There are outliers
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  and those outliers force it to work
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  by just doing it to the extreme.
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  Yeah.
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  Right?
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  I'm like, they're ain't...
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  That ain't for me, you know?
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  Like that's literally not what the Bible teaches, right?
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  And here's the other part.
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  Like on the other hand of it too,
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  the Bible doesn't teach anything
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  about all the other myths we're told.
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  Like, hey, we should have this number for retirement.
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  We should know our financial freedoms
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  so we can just chill and do whatever, right?
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  Like every single person in the Bible
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  worked at something until the day they died.
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  Work never stopped.
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  The first thing God did was give Adam a job.
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  He said, you're going to go work.
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  Go tend to the fields.
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  So I love work.
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  You'll never hear me talk about retirement
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  because I'm just like,
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  dude, what are we working on next?
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  I think you're the same too, right?
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  Like we love to work
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  and it's hard for entrepreneurs who love to work
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  to not work, right?
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  We're not like lazy society where they don't want to work.
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  Like we're like, yo,
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  myself, include, I'm like, I could work 80 hours a week.
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  A thousand percent, and I enjoy it.
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  Yeah, and enjoy it, right?
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  But I also understand that God gave me
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  these parameters of how I'm supposed to live my life.
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  Not because he's like, bro,
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  I don't want you to have any fun or anything else.
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  It's like because this is what's going to
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  help you live the best life and live the way I designed it for you, right?
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  You have parameters in your business,
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  but that's why we have KPIs.
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  That's why we have core values.
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  That's why we have SOPs.
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  It's because this is how you should do it the right way.
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  The Bible's just a SOP for life.
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  And so, you know, for me, when I look at a new opportunity,
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  once again, I go through my SOP and I do what it says, right?
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  And so for me, first thing is prayer.
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  Hey, you know, God, what do you think about this opportunity, man?
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  I got this guy Scott here and he's thinking about doing this business with me, right?
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  And I'll see if I hear anything, right?
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  The next thing would be leaning on wise counsel.
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  I mean, we call this mentors in the normal world.
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  But, you know, for me, I don't want just normal mentors,
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  but I want Christian mentors too,
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  because they see the world obviously very different
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  than normal people, right?
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  And so they'll catch things that don't necessarily make sense
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  from a worldly perspective, right?
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  I mean, somebody can look at it and say,
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  dude, that opportunity with Scott is like amazing.
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  You guys are going to be able to do this.
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  The product market fits great.
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  You guys already have all the customers.
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  The upsells, the asset like, dude,
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  everything on paper looks great.
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  And then somebody else can look at and say,
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  hey, honestly, dude,
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  like it sounds great,
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  but I just don't feel right about it in my spirit.
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  And there's nothing else that can be said at that point, right?
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  Because it's just like, at the end of the day,
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  there are things that make perfect sense.
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  That if you go down that path,
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  and I've done it before, where I've rejected my gut,
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  aka the spirit, and I'm like,
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  bro, this is the best opportunity ever.
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  And it's led me to the biggest lawsuits,
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  the biggest headaches, the biggest problems.
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  And it's like, then there's things that I avoided so much trouble.
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  And I just knew I was like, I don't know what it is about that,
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  but I'm not doing that.
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  And then it comes out, you know,
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  you're later, as you're saying this,
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  I'm thinking through, I'm thinking through some ideas that I actually think
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  you pull this wisdom out of the Bible.
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  I think they're very applicable to people that are not religious.
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  Because what I speak about quite often
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  is when you're starting something,
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  you have to build your life and architect your life in a way
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  that you can continue to do that thing and improve and iterate and learn
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  and sometimes pivot or whatever it is.
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  You have to be able to do that thing for an extended period of time to avoid burnout.
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  Exactly.
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  And that means structuring your finances,
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  structuring the hours that you can commit to that thing
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  so that you're not running a relationship with your wife,
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  yet your husband and your kids and all of this different stuff, right?
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  So what I think that you are saying through your interpretation of the Bible
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  is the Bible is setting up this framework
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  so that you can actually be successful in business
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  because you're approaching it through the right lens.
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  Mm-hmm, 100%.
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  You're approaching it with the relationship
• 16:50
  with your family, with your kids intact.
• 16:53
  You're not like over indexing on business
• 16:56
  because, again, through wisdom,
• 16:59
  thought down by a book that is thousands of years old.
• 17:02
  Yep.
• 17:03
  You are understanding that all these other components are important in your life.
• 17:06
  And when you structure a business in a way that respects all the other things
• 17:11
  that are important in your life,
• 17:12
  that's the business that's going to be there in 10 or 20 years.
• 17:16
  That's the business that you continue to build
• 17:18
  because you're not destroying everything else around it.
• 17:20
  100% right?
• 17:21
  And I think that from just a practical standpoint, right?
• 17:25
  It comes back to, you know,
• 17:26
  what are my priorities and core values?
• 17:28
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:28
  And a lot of people you would talk to would say,
• 17:30
  well, yeah, family's a priority to me.
• 17:33
  And I'd say, okay, let me see your schedule.
• 17:35
  Just show me your calendar.
• 17:36
  Let's just literally,
• 17:38
  this would be the most radical thing.
• 17:40
  Let's just count the hours you spend with your family.
• 17:42
  Let's count the hours you spend, you know, on your health.
• 17:45
  Let's count the hours you spend with God.
• 17:46
  Let's count the hours you spend in business, right?
• 17:49
  And let's not even count the hours you waste in business,
• 17:51
  because we know that a lot of 80 hour guys,
• 17:55
  I mean, they could be 40 hour guys if they were just more efficient.
• 17:58
  And so, you know, for me,
• 18:00
  that's what the wealthy ways all about.
• 18:01
  It's taking the things that you say are a priority in your life
• 18:04
  and making those things first and then building business around that.
• 18:08
  So, for example, you know, like I was saying,
• 18:11
  I built all of this like with the same framework, right?
• 18:14
  Like I didn't have money.
• 18:16
  My time was extremely limited,
• 18:18
  because I had to play baseball,
• 18:19
  leave six months out of the year,
• 18:21
  wall simultaneously building a business
• 18:23
  and having, you know, a new wife and,
• 18:25
  you know, all these things.
• 18:27
  And what I realized was,
• 18:29
  when I made the main things, the main things,
• 18:31
  everything else fell into place.
• 18:32
  Just like the Bible verse said, you know?
• 18:34
  So like to give practical knowledge to those listening,
• 18:38
  for the last,
• 18:40
  man, let's call it 10 years.
• 18:41
  I've been flipping houses for 10 years.
• 18:44
  My schedule really hasn't changed.
• 18:46
  I don't work on the weekends.
• 18:48
  I didn't want to flip my first house.
• 18:49
  I still don't today, okay?
• 18:51
  So it's not something that came I earned.
• 18:54
  I didn't earn.
• 18:54
  It was in the plan from the beginning.
• 18:57
  So I don't work on weekends.
• 18:58
  I don't work past five o'clock.
• 19:00
  So every day, this office closes at five.
• 19:03
  Most of my employees leave.
• 19:04
  Some might finish up some stuff.
• 19:06
  But we all leave because I want my employees
• 19:09
  to have the same mindset I do.
• 19:10
  Like, I don't want them to get burned out.
• 19:11
  I don't want them to lose their families.
• 19:13
  I don't want any of those things.
• 19:15
  Like I genuinely care about them.
• 19:16
  And so, you know, in order for that to happen, though,
• 19:18
  we got to get super efficient while we are here.
• 19:21
  You know, they know that.
• 19:22
  I do not have any tolerance for wasting time.
• 19:26
  If I see people wandering around not doing anything,
• 19:28
  like, what are you doing?
• 19:29
  Go sit in your office and make some calls.
• 19:31
  Go get some sales.
• 19:32
  Like, there's something for you to do.
• 19:34
  Like, there's a price for this lifestyle
• 19:38
  that we get to have with work, life balance.
• 19:40
  You know, yeah, you only got to be here
• 19:42
  from nine to five Monday to Friday.
• 19:43
  But guess what?
• 19:45
  You better be working extremely efficient, you know,
• 19:48
  nine to five.
• 19:49
  Like, I even told him today I go, look, this week,
• 19:51
  we got Thanksgiving and, you know,
• 19:53
  we don't have to come on Friday.
• 19:54
  We have three days to work.
• 19:56
  All right.
• 19:57
  You got to get five days of work in the next three days.
• 20:00
  Y'all don't need hour lunches.
• 20:02
  You don't need any of this stuff.
• 20:04
  Get what you need to get done this week.
• 20:06
  I'm not asking them to go work till seven or eight tonight.
• 20:08
  I'm just like, get what needs to get done.
• 20:10
  Hold yourself accountable.
• 20:12
  And so, you know, we do that.
• 20:13
  And then even for me, on my faith,
• 20:16
  from the beginning, every morning,
• 20:18
  I read my Bible, I pray, I meditate, I remember I scripture.
• 20:24
  You know, I didn't learn all this about scripture
• 20:26
  because, you know, I just watched a YouTube video.
• 20:28
  I've been doing it for 10 years in a row
• 20:30
  every morning for an hour every day.
• 20:32
  And it starts to become more and more clear of what's true
• 20:35
  and what's not.
• 20:36
  And then you also have 10 years of hindsight to say,
• 20:38
  well, I took a path.
• 20:40
  They took a path.
• 20:41
  I'm pretty happy where my path is.
• 20:43
  Yeah.
• 20:44
  And, um, you know, we have Bible study on Wednesday mornings.
• 20:48
  We go to church on Sunday.
• 20:49
  So it's like, it's important to me to do those things.
• 20:52
  And it's also important for me to get home at five
• 20:54
  to have dinner with my family.
• 20:55
  It's also important for me every morning to work out.
• 20:57
  So I'm still in shape even after I'm done playing.
• 21:00
  Um, and I'm just efficient, man.
• 21:02
  It's like, dude, we're going to go film a pod.
• 21:04
  We're going to film a pod here.
• 21:05
  I got a couple more meetings.
• 21:07
  I got to do Monday.
• 21:08
  And then guess what Friday?
• 21:09
  I'm golfing.
• 21:10
  I'm hanging like everything is like, yeah.
• 21:12
  So why did people?
• 21:14
  You've built this super efficient machine.
• 21:16
  It's like, respect.
• 21:18
  I love it.
• 21:18
  I think that's the way business should be.
• 21:20
  I don't generally see super efficient machines.
• 21:25
  Well, really ever, but I mean,
• 21:27
  but if you look at the, if you look at the companies
• 21:30
  where people actually go home at five,
• 21:31
  yeah, they're enormous companies.
• 21:33
  Yeah.
• 21:33
  There are companies that are well over $100 million in revenue.
• 21:36
  If you are like a sub $10 million company,
• 21:38
  that founder, owner CEO is expecting people to work nonstop.
• 21:43
  Yeah.
• 21:43
  And of course, I don't like the environment of the sub most
• 21:45
  sub $10 million companies.
• 21:47
  Obviously, this is not a hard and fast rule.
• 21:49
  But I mean, it's tough to build a business.
• 21:52
  Yeah.
• 21:52
  And owners and owner operated companies.
• 21:54
  They try and extract as much out of people as
• 21:56
  possible.
• 21:57
  And they expect their team to care as much about
• 21:59
  their company as they do, which why should they?
• 22:01
  They never will.
• 22:02
  I don't own it.
• 22:03
  So exactly.
• 22:04
  So why do you think, I mean, so now we have the theory.
• 22:08
  You talk about efficiency and you talk about
• 22:10
  balance, you talk about things that are important.
• 22:11
  So you go into building a business,
• 22:13
  knowing all the things that are important to you.
• 22:15
  That's great.
• 22:16
  But why were you able to be successful
• 22:18
  when so many other companies don't operate the way that you
• 22:20
  operate that don't operate with those limits on time
• 22:23
  and time and office and focus on office?
• 22:25
  Well, I think it's a few things, right?
• 22:27
  I mean, obviously,
• 22:29
  when you're talking about spiritual supernatural things,
• 22:32
  there are things that just happen
• 22:35
  that other people just don't get to be
• 22:37
  to have the benefit of.
• 22:38
  Like, I can't say that every door that's been open
• 22:40
  in my life has been a direct result
• 22:42
  of how hard we work to how much we earned it.
• 22:44
  But it's just simply been a gift.
• 22:46
  Like, I can't even explain how I know
• 22:49
  so many big people, like almost everybody
• 22:51
  in the business space who you see on social media.
• 22:54
  And it's not because I'm anywhere close to their level.
• 22:56
  I don't have a hundred million dollar company.
• 22:58
  Yet, I can text them all.
• 23:00
  They all come here.
• 23:00
  They all respect me.
• 23:01
  They come to meet in my office and we film.
• 23:04
  It's like, a lot of that is just favor.
• 23:06
  And it just is what it is.
• 23:08
  And so I think God gives favor to those who are obedient.
• 23:11
  Like, that's a promise in the Bible as well.
• 23:12
  It's not just like, oh, well, Ryan,
• 23:15
  we'll give him this.
• 23:16
  And you know, like, no, there's this level of stewardship.
• 23:18
  You know, the Bible promises that,
• 23:20
  if I trust you with a little,
• 23:21
  I can trust you with much.
• 23:23
  And so if I was good enough to be able to still be obedient,
• 23:26
  fall in when I was making 1200 a month,
• 23:28
  how much more could I do if we're making 1.2 million,
• 23:31
  you know, a thousand times it, right?
• 23:34
  So that's one level, right?
• 23:36
  And a lot of people won't understand that.
• 23:38
  So, you know, what are some other technical things?
• 23:40
  Well, I think that number one,
• 23:43
  longevity comes from the things you were actually talking about.
• 23:46
  Of, dude, like, let's just budget this out.
• 23:49
  Like, what's actually sustainable, right?
• 23:52
  What, how much capacity do I have to work?
• 23:54
  Like, what, how many hours am I willing to do this?
• 23:56
  Like, at a sustainable level,
• 23:57
  it's not going to ruin my life.
• 23:59
  We can keep at this.
• 24:00
  Number two, you know, how much financially
• 24:02
  can we devote to this, right?
• 24:04
  I mean, I don't come from the startup world where,
• 24:06
  you know, people raised millions of dollars
• 24:08
  to just burn it and lose money.
• 24:09
  I have never lost money.
• 24:11
  That's not a good strategy.
• 24:13
  I've never raised money to start any business.
• 24:15
  I've each strapped everything.
• 24:16
  So it's like, yeah, we better be making money from day one.
• 24:19
  That's how I operate.
• 24:20
  So I think budgeting time and money and resource
• 24:24
  is so important to this.
• 24:25
  And honestly, the third one is, and you hear this all the time,
• 24:28
  it's just like, at that point,
• 24:30
  if you're doing everything right,
• 24:32
  it's just now compounding time.
• 24:34
  Like, just do it over and over again.
• 24:36
  It's going to be boring.
• 24:38
  Just keep doing it.
• 24:39
  Make me keep making the videos.
• 24:40
  Keep calling the sellers.
• 24:41
  Keep talking to the clients.
• 24:43
  Keep throwing the events.
• 24:44
  You do it enough times.
• 24:45
  You look up five years later, 10 years later,
• 24:47
  and you're like, wow,
• 24:49
  look how far ahead we are than everyone.
• 24:51
  Look how many people dropped off.
• 24:52
  Like, look how many people were like a flash in the pan.
• 24:54
  Like, they started out way ahead of us.
• 24:57
  And then, you know, they went bankrupt.
• 24:58
  They fell off.
• 24:59
  This thing happened or they burned out.
• 25:01
  Like, you see that all the time.
• 25:03
  One of my favorite quotes you've said is,
• 25:04
  your why has to be bigger than your fear.
• 25:06
  So I have to ask you, is God your why
• 25:09
  or is there a bigger why than even that?
• 25:11
  No, yeah.
• 25:12
  It's just simply leading people to Jesus.
• 25:14
  I mean, at the end of the day,
• 25:16
  actually, I want to add it.
• 25:17
  That's something on to that too.
• 25:17
  Okay.
• 25:18
  How do you bow?
• 25:19
  So say, that's a great why.
• 25:20
  Yep.
• 25:21
  But how do you balance that why versus providing
• 25:23
  for your family as a why versus
• 25:26
  yeah, achieving the highest version of yourself
• 25:28
  and the most quote unquote successful version of yourself?
• 25:31
  All right.
• 25:31
  So this is once again going to be kind of controversial.
• 25:34
  But I actually do not believe that it's biblical
• 25:38
  to even have like your own goals.
• 25:41
  So, you know, when you talk about the Bible, right?
• 25:44
  One of the things that it says is,
• 25:46
  you need to die to yourself.
• 25:48
  You become a slave to Christ.
• 25:50
  Like your old self dies the moment you become a Christian.
• 25:54
  What does that mean?
• 25:55
  Well, it's like your old self dies.
• 25:58
  There's only the new self.
• 25:59
  Like when people say, man, I'm trying to follow,
• 26:02
  you know, God's will, but I have my own will
• 26:04
  and my own dreams and my own ambitions.
• 26:06
  How do I like that God's will with my will?
• 26:10
  The reality is there should be no your will anymore.
• 26:13
  There should only be God's will.
• 26:15
  And if you're following what God wants you to do,
• 26:17
  that's all that matters.
• 26:19
  And you're going to trust that he's going to provide.
• 26:21
  He always, I mean, there's, it goes back to how do I balance my family?
• 26:24
  If I truly believe God's promise, you know, Matthew 6,
• 26:28
  25 through 26 talks about how, you know,
• 26:30
  look at the birds in the air, right?
• 26:32
  The birds in the air, they don't sew or reap or work or store
• 26:35
  way in barns.
• 26:35
  And yet your heavenly father feeds them and takes care of them.
• 26:38
  They don't have to worry about how they're going to eat the next day.
• 26:41
  They just do.
• 26:43
  And yet we're always worried about when our next
• 26:45
  paycheck's going to come.
• 26:46
  What's our next job?
• 26:47
  Because we don't believe that he's going to take care of us, right?
• 26:50
  Now, if you're not a Christian, I get it.
• 26:53
  You do need to depend on yourself to do all these things.
• 26:56
  But if you're a Christian and you truly believe the Bible,
• 26:58
  this should not be a concern.
• 27:00
  So, you know, once again, we're talking about,
• 27:02
  the counter argument would be there's lots of poor Christians.
• 27:04
  There's lots of people that are struggling.
• 27:05
  There's, there's poor Christians, but they're still in care of, right?
• 27:08
  Once again, we're not talking about
• 27:11
  levels of wealth and millions of dollars.
• 27:13
  We're talking about he's just going to take care of you.
• 27:15
  And this is where it really comes down to in the end, right?
• 27:18
  There's lots of poor people in the Bible.
• 27:19
  There's lots of rich people in the Bible.
• 27:21
  And you mentioned this too, like what's the main goal with all this?
• 27:26
  The main goal is to help people start thinking about eternity.
• 27:30
  Because we spend so much time thinking about,
• 27:35
  you know, my one year, you know, business plan,
• 27:37
  my five year business plan.
• 27:38
  Well, how are we going to exit this company in the next 10 years, right?
• 27:42
  We spend hours with boardrooms,
• 27:45
  team, all this stuff, figuring out that.
• 27:48
  People spend almost no time thinking about eternity.
• 27:52
  And the crazy part is, if you just think,
• 27:55
  we're all logical, practical people on this show,
• 27:58
  we're going to be dead way longer than we're alive, okay?
• 28:02
  So if we're thinking about retirement
• 28:04
  and where we're going to actually be for a long time,
• 28:08
  eternity should actually be the thing we're thinking about most
• 28:11
  and planning for that.
• 28:12
  You know, I actually heard a quote the other day.
• 28:15
  It said that,
• 28:16
  imagine this, the next 24 hours of your life,
• 28:20
  you know, somebody came to say, hey, Scott,
• 28:21
  the next 24 hours of your life is going to dictate the next thousand years,
• 28:26
  you know, so make sure these next 24 hours,
• 28:29
  you really,
• 28:30
  I just very thought, dude, you really liked it.
• 28:32
  The crazy part about that is that's not even close to what the actual truth is.
• 28:37
  Because that's a finite number in eternity is infinite.
• 28:41
  So even if we get 100 years here on earth,
• 28:44
  it's still not a 24 hour to a thousand year ratio.
• 28:47
  It's not, it's infinite.
• 28:50
  And yet we never think about it.
• 28:51
  And the truth in a matter is there's so many different belief systems, right?
• 28:55
  Like, I understand that, right?
• 28:56
  You know, you're like, man, maybe I should be Hindu.
• 28:59
  Maybe I should be Mormon.
• 29:00
  Maybe I should be Christian.
• 29:01
  Maybe I should be this.
• 29:02
  It's like, well, almost all of them say there's like one way.
• 29:06
  Yeah.
• 29:06
  You better do your research to know which one's true because if there's a slight chance
• 29:11
  that one of them's true, you've been focusing on the wrong thing.
• 29:15
  Oh, it's funny because yeah, there is a there is a through line between all religions.
• 29:18
  Anyways, it doesn't matter what you actually believe.
• 29:21
  The difference, I think, the biggest, the biggest differences between people that have zero belief
• 29:27
  versus people that have like even like a little bit of belief.
• 29:29
  That is the biggest difference because if you believe nothing, I don't even know
• 29:33
  how you go through life believing that this is it.
• 29:36
  Like, this is all the, yeah, it's a very, I mean, that's a more stressful thought
• 29:41
  that knowing that this is the end, this is the end.
• 29:43
  That's a very stressful thought.
• 29:45
  Yeah.
• 29:46
  I don't think I want to ever sit with that thought to be quite honest.
• 29:48
  Like, I want to have, forget about the fact that it's good to have like some moral compass
• 29:53
  and definition of good and something larger than yourself so that you don't
• 29:57
  think that your ego is the most important thing on this planet.
• 30:00
  I think that those are all good things but outside of it, it's a very scary thought to think that
• 30:04
  when you die, that's it.
• 30:05
  That's horrifying.
• 30:06
  It's depressing.
• 30:07
  I actually, I'm curious about your opinion on this because I've thought about this a lot.
• 30:12
  I do see a rise in secularism in society, a lack of God in society.
• 30:19
  Obviously, I'm sure you think about it quite often.
• 30:21
  Yeah.
• 30:21
  Is Godlessness in society?
• 30:24
  I live in Vegas.
• 30:25
  Yeah.
• 30:26
  I live in Miami.
• 30:27
  Yeah.
• 30:28
  We know all about it.
• 30:30
  What do you think the true implications are?
• 30:33
  Because I'm sure you're closer to this phenomenon than me because you work with people
• 30:37
  yet are trying to find God and usually there's like an impetus.
• 30:40
  There's like a reason why they're seeking.
• 30:42
  Yeah.
• 30:43
  People usually have to reach a low point for them to finally seek, right?
• 30:46
  Because they could have had everything and lost it all or whatever and they're like,
• 30:49
  dude, okay, it wasn't worth it.
• 30:51
  Or they reached the end of their life, man.
• 30:52
  They do the plan that they thought was the plan for 30 years and then they're like,
• 30:57
  dude, I'm still not fulfilled.
• 30:58
  Like it didn't, it wasn't what I thought it was.
• 31:01
  And so then they go to seeking.
• 31:03
  But yeah, I mean, like the impetus for Godlessness is that there's a lot of people going to hell.
• 31:09
  And that's the truth and that's the sad, scary part about it and people need to hear it.
• 31:13
  Because like, you know, I'm talking about eternity, right?
• 31:15
  Once again,
• 31:16
  that, you know, most people, even if they're not Christian, believe there's a heaven and a hell.
• 31:20
  I just want to take a second and thank the house by podcast network for supporting today's episode.
• 31:23
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• 31:26
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  I wasn't even talking after you die.
• 32:17
  I was talking while you're still on this planet.
• 32:20
  Yeah, I mean, dude,
• 32:22
  you live in godlessness once again, it's not like God gave us those rules.
• 32:27
  Like, hey, don't do these things because I want to prevent you from having fun.
• 32:30
  That's not like most people who are practicing all this crazy stuff.
• 32:33
  Think they're like, dude, that doesn't sound like fun.
• 32:35
  And it's like, bro, you can only sleep with so many women and you start to realize it.
• 32:41
  You can only get smashed so many times before you realize it.
• 32:44
  You can only make so much money and then realize, man, like I've made it all and it's still,
• 32:50
  I still feel the same.
• 32:52
  Everybody who goes that path comes to that conclusion at some point.
• 32:56
  And then you have a choice.
• 32:57
  You either make a change or you keep numbing the pain.
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  When I look at people that have had massive success, like, like,
• 33:04
  people that are now billionaires or over a hundred million dollars in exit value and whatever.
• 33:11
  They're always seeking something after that.
• 33:14
  They're always, you're never satisfied.
• 33:15
  Well, you can never be fully satisfied because again,
• 33:18
  I love that. There's only so many women you can sleep with.
• 33:23
  There's only so many things you can buy.
• 33:25
  And ultimately, that's not why we're put on this earth anyway.
• 33:29
  It doesn't matter what you believe.
• 33:30
  Those are not fulfilling things.
• 33:32
  Yeah, whenever I meet a person, because I, you know,
• 33:35
  I'm around a lot of rich people who do different things.
• 33:37
  Whenever I meet a rich person who really values their stuff,
• 33:43
  I kind of feel bad for them.
• 33:46
  And I don't mean it in a way because I like having nice stuff too.
• 33:49
  You know, I have a nice house and nice cars.
• 33:51
  You know, but like, I don't go in, you know,
• 33:54
  like, just to give a prime example, you know,
• 33:56
  I meet guys who have these massive car collections.
• 33:59
  And I'm not saying it's a sin to have a massive car collection by any means.
• 34:02
  But it's where your heart is at.
• 34:04
  And I can see there are guys who just keep buying car after car after car.
• 34:09
  You're because it's like, it's the thing that gets them, you know,
• 34:12
  make some happy and like, they feel really good.
• 34:14
  And then they buy the car and then, you know, it wears off after two days.
• 34:17
  Yeah.
• 34:18
  And they're immediately looking for the next car.
• 34:20
  And I'm just like, and then, you know, they love to show it like,
• 34:23
  dude, yeah, look at this car and this car and this car.
• 34:26
  And I'm like, that's cool, man.
• 34:27
  I can tell you really like your car is like, yeah, I don't really care.
• 34:32
  You know, if you want to lend me one, I'll drive it.
• 34:34
  I mean, I'm not, I'll drive it.
• 34:36
  I think it's great.
• 34:37
  But like, I clearly don't like love them the way you do.
• 34:40
  When you talk about, okay, so when you talk about the wealthy way,
• 34:43
  yeah, what is your definition of the wealthy way?
• 34:45
  What is your version, yeah, of wealth?
• 34:48
  The subtitle of the book is don't go broke trying to get rich.
• 34:51
  You know, a lot of people go broke on every aspect of their life trying to get rich,
• 34:57
  making money.
• 34:59
  And I think that's a good, you know, kind of hook, my go to writer,
• 35:03
  my ghost writer thought of that.
• 35:04
  I was like, that's a good, that's a good line.
• 35:06
  But yeah, I think it's just having, you know, for me, wealth is not just money,
• 35:10
  right?
• 35:10
  It's all the areas we've been talking about.
• 35:13
  Because you truly need them all, right?
• 35:14
  Like, I mean, tons of, you know, even broke Christians, right?
• 35:19
  People who don't have a lot of money that are Christians,
• 35:21
  that are still living a suboptimal life.
• 35:23
  Yeah, they're saved.
• 35:24
  But man, like, they're, they're, they just can't figure out how to get out of the paycheck
• 35:29
  to paycheck life.
• 35:30
  And I know they can, I know they can get out of it.
• 35:33
  They just need to learn skills, right?
• 35:35
  And so money is, I don't want anyone to think I think money is like not important.
• 35:40
  But the Bible actually talks about money than any other subject.
• 35:43
  Why is there that negative connotation?
• 35:45
  Like, I don't understand that.
• 35:46
  But there was always this, I don't know if it's true or not,
• 35:49
  but I always felt that with very religious people,
• 35:52
  there was this almost negative connotation about money.
• 35:54
  Yeah.
• 35:54
  And I never got it.
• 35:55
  I never really understood where that came from.
• 35:57
  It comes from ignorance.
• 35:58
  So the Bible does not talk negatively about like rich people.
• 36:04
  It's not that rich people are bad or anything like that.
• 36:07
  You know, it's that camel quote.
• 36:10
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, uh, but it's easier for the camel to go
• 36:14
  through the eye of the needle than it is for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven.
• 36:18
  And it's true, right?
• 36:19
  That's kind of a little bit different in that.
• 36:21
  And this is why my mission has really been to help entrepreneurs.
• 36:24
  And that's why I left talking about it on shows like this,
• 36:26
  who a lot of people don't know me.
• 36:27
  But like, it's hard to get a rich person to, you know, give themselves a
• 36:32
  Christ because they think they got it all, right?
• 36:34
  Like everybody's like, bro, you're killing it.
• 36:36
  What you're doing's awesome.
• 36:37
  Like, you have all the things you could ever want.
• 36:40
  And so they don't even realize how much of a problem they have.
• 36:43
  So that's why that that quote exists.
• 36:45
  But, you know, in terms of, um,
• 36:48
  why do we have this poverty minded, this poverty mindset and Christianity?
• 36:54
  There's definitely like a set of Christians that have that mindset.
• 36:57
  And, um, I think there's lots of reasons for it.
• 37:02
  So I can't name all of them.
• 37:04
  A couple of them are that, you know, uh,
• 37:07
  misinterpreting Bible verses, right?
• 37:10
  Like one second Corinthians nine six through seven says like,
• 37:13
  I don't know, that's, um, I'm talking about giving.
• 37:15
  But, you know, there's a Bible verse that talks about how,
• 37:17
  you know, you can't worship both God and money.
• 37:20
  You know, you can only be a slave to one.
• 37:22
  And the truth is, if you go back to what I said where it's like,
• 37:25
  okay, if I worship God and I just trust God for everything,
• 37:29
  money will come as a byproduct.
• 37:30
  Now, how much money?
• 37:32
  I don't know.
• 37:32
  But I know I'm going to be taken care of it.
• 37:34
  You know, you might end up a guy like me.
• 37:36
  You might end up, you know, middle class.
• 37:38
  You might end up whatever, right?
• 37:39
  But odds are, you know, you're going to be okay.
• 37:41
  And then there's what you would have prosperity.
• 37:44
  You know, my need Christians who think every Christian should be rich.
• 37:47
  Like, you know, God, but they believe that God blesses those,
• 37:53
  you know, who are true believers.
• 37:55
  And if, uh, you're not a true believer,
• 37:58
  that's why you're broke.
• 37:59
  Like that's their mindset.
• 38:00
  And that's also wrong.
• 38:01
  Um, the truth is God has given us all different skills and talents
• 38:05
  and abilities.
• 38:05
  And so, you know, we're called to just play our role.
• 38:08
  One of my favorite ideas, um, this is not my idea.
• 38:11
  I can't remember who I originally said this.
• 38:13
  But if you do not have God in your life,
• 38:15
  something else will replace God for you.
• 38:18
  Yeah, and it'll be advice.
• 38:19
  It'll be, it will kill those idols.
• 38:21
  Yeah, exactly.
• 38:22
  And I don't think that's healthy either.
• 38:24
  I think it's not readily.
• 38:25
  Well, and I'll say this too.
• 38:27
  And I, I'll say like I'm acting like I'm the most wholesome guy ever.
• 38:30
  I am not okay.
• 38:31
  So, you know, I've had many failures in my life.
• 38:34
  Man, I've been sued that people lose money.
• 38:38
  I've done everything you can imagine, man.
• 38:40
  I like, I don't do so.
• 38:41
  By the way, that is the right of business.
• 38:42
  I mean, if you build a big enough business,
• 38:44
  all this shit happens.
• 38:45
  Yeah, yeah.
• 38:45
  You're not going to, you know, bad a thousand, right?
• 38:48
  But, um, with that,
• 38:51
  you know, I've just kind of realized that,
• 38:54
  you know, I'm so thankful that
• 38:59
  I don't have to like live in that guilt.
• 39:02
  And I'm also thankful that my career is not my identity.
• 39:06
  Because, you know, there are times where
• 39:09
  man in business, I'd be killing it.
• 39:11
  Man, it's like, you know, everybody's like,
• 39:13
  bro, you know, how much did you guys do?
• 39:15
  You guys did so many deals.
• 39:16
  Look at how many views you're getting.
• 39:18
  You know, let's interview you about this thing, right?
• 39:21
  And then all of a sudden, next year,
• 39:22
  boom, doubles interest rates recession.
• 39:25
  I was like, dude, I'm losing money.
• 39:27
  What's going on here, right?
• 39:28
  And throughout it all, it's like,
• 39:31
  I just don't let my business career,
• 39:34
  you know, become my idol.
• 39:36
  Because that's what a lot of people do.
• 39:37
  And I struggled with that early on.
• 39:39
  And God kind of brought me through it with my baseball career.
• 39:42
  Because I was that way in baseball.
• 39:44
  Every day, you know, in baseball, you, you know,
• 39:46
  baseball is a lot different than in business.
• 39:48
  Because in baseball, you play every day.
• 39:50
  And your stats are public.
• 39:52
  Imagine if your bank account, your P&L was public.
• 39:54
  In every business, every day.
• 39:56
  They got updated.
• 39:57
  They're like, oh, Ryan.
• 39:58
  Dang, Ryan.
• 39:59
  They didn't make any money.
• 40:00
  They actually lost money on a deal.
• 40:02
  And everyone could see it.
• 40:04
  That's how sports is.
• 40:06
  It's all transparent.
• 40:07
  And, you know, that was hard for me as a 21-year-old, you know,
• 40:12
  trying to deal with.
• 40:13
  And then you get released.
• 40:15
  You get fired.
• 40:17
  And you get to deal with that.
• 40:19
  I think it's all public.
• 40:20
  It's all public.
• 40:21
  Everyone knows.
• 40:22
  And I did that for eight seasons, man.
• 40:24
  I had battling identity.
• 40:25
  And it wasn't until the end when I really
• 40:27
  started to understand like, man, this doesn't matter.
• 40:30
  Like, at the end of the day,
• 40:32
  I can't have my happiness and my peace be defined
• 40:35
  if I had a good game yesterday.
• 40:37
  Or if I had a good week.
• 40:39
  That was a good lesson for business, too.
• 40:41
  Yeah.
• 40:41
  And that's why when I came into business later,
• 40:44
  I had kind of learned all those lessons in my 20s.
• 40:47
  And I'm like, bro, I don't care if we have a bad week.
• 40:50
  I don't care if somebody's talking crap online.
• 40:52
  Yeah.
• 40:53
  Like, this is nothing.
• 40:54
  Was there an experience that sort of
• 40:57
  reshaped your definition of wealth from pure finance
• 41:02
  to like more of a holistic definition of wealth?
• 41:05
  Yeah.
• 41:06
  It was actually the birth of my son.
• 41:08
  So my son was born in January of 2019.
• 41:14
  He was born prematurely.
• 41:16
  So he's two months premature.
• 41:18
  And you know, I didn't like, it was crazy.
• 41:22
  You know, she's having contractions.
• 41:23
  We didn't know like, as her first child,
• 41:25
  we didn't know what was going on.
• 41:27
  Like, hey, the baby's coming like right now.
• 41:28
  And I'm like, dude, he's supposed to come in like two months.
• 41:31
  What do you mean right now?
• 41:32
  So stressful.
• 41:33
  And they're like, well, he's coming right now.
• 41:35
  And I'm like, is he going to make it?
• 41:38
  Like, this is pretty early.
• 41:40
  And they're like, well, we can't say.
• 41:42
  But, you know, just we're getting prepared.
• 41:45
  So, you know, I'm praying.
• 41:46
  Once again, seek God in every situation.
• 41:49
  And he's born.
• 41:51
  They say he's going to have a lot of complications and issues.
• 41:55
  He ends up having to stay in the NICU for two months.
• 41:58
  So, every day for two months, I had to go,
• 42:02
  you know, to the hospital in the morning to go see him,
• 42:04
  go see him with my wife at night.
• 42:06
  And it was a super stressful time, especially for my wife.
• 42:09
  You know, she's a brand new mom and she can't even be with her baby.
• 42:13
  And he can't breathe.
• 42:14
  He can't eat.
• 42:15
  He can't do anything.
• 42:16
  Like, he's got all these problems.
• 42:19
  You know, finally, we get to take him home.
• 42:22
  And dude, we're scared because he can't breathe.
• 42:25
  Like, I'm like, what if he stops breathing while he's at home?
• 42:29
  Yeah, you know, like, it's just stressful.
• 42:31
  And, you know, throughout that time too,
• 42:34
  you know, like, there's a very high chance he's going to have special needs.
• 42:38
  You know, you're going to have to start getting him in therapies
• 42:40
  and all these things every week.
• 42:41
  And so, you know, my wife's learning how to navigate that process of everything.
• 42:46
  And, you know, that first year was so extremely stressful and hard
• 42:51
  because it was just all new and all unknown.
• 42:54
  And also to during that year was like one of the times in business
• 42:57
  where like, we really had to do a big pivot.
• 42:59
  And like, it was very stressful as well.
• 43:02
  And so, I made the choice that year
• 43:05
  because my wife was really struggling with.
• 43:06
  And I said, you know what?
• 43:09
  I was already on the schedule of, you know,
• 43:11
  Monday through Friday, nine to five.
• 43:13
  Like, so, you know, for a lot of guys, it might be like, well, dude,
• 43:16
  I'm like, I'm home a lot.
• 43:18
  But I could tell that she needed more.
• 43:20
  And so, I said, you know what?
• 43:22
  I'm just not going to go and work on Wednesdays either.
• 43:24
  You know, I'm going to spend Wednesdays with just her
• 43:28
  and try to give her a break, kind of like be there for her right now
• 43:31
  in this really hard time.
• 43:33
  And I did that for most of the year.
• 43:38
  And that really like was what she needed at that time.
• 43:41
  And at the end of the year, this was about a week before Christmas.
• 43:47
  He fell and hit his head.
• 43:48
  And he had this big old knot on his head.
• 43:50
  So, we took him to the hospital.
• 43:52
  And, you know, we're like, is he okay?
• 43:54
  Like, what's the deal?
• 43:55
  And they're like, oh, he's fine.
• 43:56
  Don't worry about it.
• 43:57
  So, we took him home about two days later or a day later.
• 44:00
  I can't even remember.
• 44:02
  I'm looking at him.
• 44:03
  And we're like, he's not fine.
• 44:04
  Like, he's, like, he's just out of it.
• 44:06
  There's no way he's okay.
• 44:08
  So, we take him to a different hospital.
• 44:10
  They say, dude, we got to get him an MRI.
• 44:12
  Like, they didn't even
• 44:13
  MRI him or X-ray or anything.
• 44:15
  We're like, no, they said he was fine.
• 44:17
  So, get him an MRI.
• 44:18
  And they're like, his brain is bleeding.
• 44:21
  We need to like do surgery right now.
• 44:25
  And I was like, oh my gosh.
• 44:27
  And so, they prepare him for emergency surgery.
• 44:32
  I'm praying again.
• 44:34
  And I'm like, God, look,
• 44:36
  I give up everything to make sure
• 44:40
  that this surgery is successful.
• 44:42
  You could take the business.
• 44:43
  You could take the money.
• 44:45
  You could take literally everything.
• 44:48
  Just make sure he's successful.
• 44:50
  And I was like pleading.
• 44:53
  I'm like, I will devote everything to you
• 44:56
  to see him through.
• 44:58
  You know, you could have it all if you want it.
• 44:59
  But I'm going to devote everything to you
• 45:02
  if you can pull him through.
• 45:04
  And, you know, sure enough, he went for surgery overnight.
• 45:09
  You know, this is obviously super stressful.
• 45:11
  Just waiting for that.
• 45:12
  Like, we had no idea.
• 45:13
  He's not even a year old yet.
• 45:15
  And he makes it through.
• 45:18
  And also during that time too,
• 45:20
  my wife was pregnant and no one knew.
• 45:23
  So, we had so much going on that first year as parents.
• 45:28
  And, you know, he makes it through.
• 45:30
  We actually got to take him home on Christmas day.
• 45:32
  So, that was the present.
• 45:34
  Yeah.
• 45:35
  And I just learned from that year that,
• 45:40
  yeah, like I looked at death in the face
• 45:44
  with my kid, my first born.
• 45:46
  And I'm like, this ain't worth it.
• 45:48
  Like, it's not worth it to miss
• 45:50
  moments of his life being young.
• 45:52
  No amount of money is worth it.
• 45:54
  And I just was like, and I have enough money right now.
• 45:56
  Like, every step of the way,
• 45:58
  I felt like I've had enough money, you know?
• 46:00
  Like, whether I was making
• 46:01
  you know, 70 grand a month flipping couches
• 46:04
  or 100 grand a month, you know?
• 46:06
  We've had a million dollar a month.
• 46:07
  And like, I have not felt any different
• 46:09
  as far as the money goes.
• 46:11
  I've just always like, from that moment forward,
• 46:13
  I realized, man, it doesn't matter.
• 46:17
  Like, this is what matters.
• 46:19
  So, you'd never want to wish
• 46:20
  that experience on anyone else because that's horrible.
• 46:23
  Yeah.
• 46:24
  And I think what I want to sort of ask you and pull out of you is
• 46:28
  for somebody who's not gone through that experience,
• 46:33
  what is your words of wisdom for them
• 46:36
  so that they can understand
• 46:38
  why they can conceptualize how
• 46:41
  something can be more important
• 46:43
  than the business or building
• 46:44
  or the money they're making.
• 46:45
  Because I agree when you go through rock bottom,
• 46:47
  it gets very clear.
• 46:48
  But what I'm trying to figure out is
• 46:50
  how do you teach that over to somebody
• 46:52
  before they've gone through this rock bottom moment?
• 46:55
  Unfortunately, most people have the experience
• 46:58
  things for themselves.
• 47:01
  And I've been that way on many lessons.
• 47:03
  You know, I've had so many mentors
• 47:04
  and people come through these doors like Ryan,
• 47:07
  this is what you should be doing.
• 47:08
  This is what you should be doing.
• 47:09
  And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to keep doing with this.
• 47:12
  And sure enough, they're right.
• 47:14
  You know, years later, I'm like,
• 47:15
  bro, I should've listened to you,
• 47:16
  but sometimes you just got to take the punches to realize it.
• 47:21
  So, I mean, like, if you're in the minority
• 47:23
  and you're able to take it a story like that
• 47:25
  and truly feel the pain and like,
• 47:28
  just apply it to your life and kudos.
• 47:32
  But most people are...
• 47:33
  You've mentioned a few times.
• 47:34
  You spend time before major decisions, life events,
• 47:38
  praying, talking to God.
• 47:41
  This may sound like a little bit of a strange question,
• 47:43
  but I actually think it's useful for some people
• 47:45
  that actually do take that time before big decisions.
• 47:49
  When you talk to God,
• 47:50
  do you ask him to just support you
• 47:54
  or are you trying to map out like a playbook with his help?
• 47:57
  I don't know if that makes sense.
• 47:58
  Are you looking for strategy forward?
• 48:00
  Are you looking for solace?
• 48:02
  I think there's...
• 48:04
  It just kind of depends where you're at in the process.
• 48:06
  So, here's the interesting thing.
• 48:09
  Because a lot of times, right?
• 48:10
  People are like, well, how do I hear from God
• 48:13
  or know he's talking to me?
• 48:14
  Right? Because it's one thing for me to be like,
• 48:16
  hey, God, here's the situation.
• 48:18
  This is a really big problem or a really big decision.
• 48:21
  What should I do?
• 48:22
  That part's easy.
• 48:23
  We can all just go pray and ask right now.
• 48:26
  The hard part is hearing from God, you know?
• 48:31
  The question is like, how do you hear from God?
• 48:33
  You know, is it like some audible voice
• 48:35
  and God's just like, do this, right?
• 48:38
  And this is where you go into the very supernatural side
• 48:41
  of Christianity because we are spiritual beings.
• 48:44
  I mean, like, I think most people would agree,
• 48:47
  you know, we have a spirit.
• 48:49
  And if you look at the Bible,
• 48:52
  I always just say when you look at the Bible.
• 48:53
  So I want everyone to know what I say.
• 48:54
  It's because it's like, this is not my opinion.
• 48:56
  This is just what has happened, right?
• 48:59
  Based on the SOP of life that I believe.
• 49:02
  So throughout the Bible, God speaks to people in so many ways, okay?
• 49:08
  On a practical side, he's audibly spoke to people.
• 49:13
  He sent his son, you know, to come speak and teach people while he was here.
• 49:19
  He sent prophets who spoke on his behalf, you know?
• 49:22
  He gave them vision.
• 49:23
  He speaks to people in dreams.
• 49:26
  He speaks to people through the scriptures, you know,
• 49:29
  which would be the Bible today.
• 49:30
  But even when they didn't have the Bible,
• 49:32
  they still spoke through the Old Testament scriptures
• 49:34
  to all of those people.
• 49:36
  Dude, he's even spoken through a burning bush,
• 49:38
  through a donkey's mouth.
• 49:40
  Like he will speak through the sky.
• 49:43
  He is spoken to people anyway and every way you can imagine.
• 49:47
  So for me, when I'm seeking an answer from God,
• 49:51
  the first thing has to be, man,
• 49:53
  number one, do I even have a deep enough relationship with God
• 49:57
  to know when he's speaking to me?
• 49:59
  Because I actually think God is speaking to a lot of people.
• 50:01
  Right now, I think that God is speaking through me
• 50:03
  to many people listening to this.
• 50:05
  But can you even recognize when he's trying to tell you something?
• 50:08
  Because he can tell you something through me.
• 50:10
  He can tell you something through a donkey.
• 50:12
  He can tell you something through a dream.
• 50:13
  He can speak in many different ways.
• 50:15
  But you would not be able to recognize it
• 50:17
  unless you actually have intimacy and a relationship with him,
• 50:20
  you know?
• 50:20
  It's like, you have no idea what my wife sounds like
• 50:23
  because you haven't met her.
• 50:25
  So like if she called you,
• 50:26
  you wouldn't really know it's my wife,
• 50:28
  but I would,
• 50:30
  because I have a deep intimate relationship.
• 50:32
  I know when she's calling me.
• 50:33
  I would know if she wrote something on the wall,
• 50:36
  even if she didn't address it.
• 50:38
  Because I know where handwriting looks like.
• 50:40
  I know how she does things.
• 50:41
  And that's how it is with God.
• 50:43
  You would have to know, man,
• 50:44
  is God speaking through somebody else right now?
• 50:46
  You know, how is he helping you through his decision?
• 50:48
  And so my point is,
• 50:50
  I've had him speak many ways on tough things,
• 50:53
  you know, to give an example with the YouTube thing.
• 50:55
  You know, I'm sitting there during COVID,
• 50:57
  50 properties.
• 50:58
  I'm not sure if I'm going to go under.
• 51:00
  I can't go outside,
• 51:01
  just the government locked us up.
• 51:03
  And I'm just like,
• 51:05
  all right, God, what do you want me to do?
• 51:08
  I literally can't do anything.
• 51:10
  And I'm kind of scared that this could all just tumble down.
• 51:15
  And I didn't hear anything right then and there.
• 51:19
  So I go about my day.
• 51:20
  Like, I don't, you know,
• 51:21
  I'm like, I need to hear an audible answer right now.
• 51:23
  And then I go about my day.
• 51:25
  So then, you know, there's,
• 51:26
  now, now here's to be clear too.
• 51:28
  I've had ideas about different things I want to do.
• 51:31
  Like I had thought about doing YouTube before.
• 51:34
  Everyone has a lot of ideas.
• 51:35
  Like it was never a conviction,
• 51:36
  but it was like, yeah,
• 51:37
  I think YouTube and being an influencer and stuff would be good.
• 51:40
  But like,
• 51:41
  clearly, I wasn't convicted to like pursue it, right?
• 51:44
  So I already had multiple ideas and things
• 51:46
  at the forefront that I thought.
• 51:47
  So I think that that's important to part of your question.
• 51:50
  So then I end up,
• 51:53
  later that day,
• 51:54
  I get a DM from a guy on Instagram.
• 51:56
  He goes, Ryan, have you ever thought about doing YouTube?
• 51:58
  And I was like,
• 52:00
  well, yeah, actually I have.
• 52:01
  I go, who do you, like,
• 52:03
  who do you like watching on YouTube?
• 52:04
  Like, oh, I like, um,
• 52:06
  you know, this guy Graham Stefan,
• 52:08
  and this guy meet Kevin.
• 52:09
  And dude, honestly, I watched zero YouTube.
• 52:11
  I didn't know any of them.
• 52:13
  I'm like, okay, whatever.
• 52:16
  Like an hour later,
• 52:17
  another guy DMs me.
• 52:18
  Ryan, I really think you should start a YouTube channel.
• 52:21
  And I'm like, huh?
• 52:23
  Okay.
• 52:25
  Then another like,
• 52:28
  I don't even know later in the day,
• 52:30
  my friend Kong,
• 52:32
  he's a big real estate guy like on TikTok and stuff now too.
• 52:34
  At that time, he was like doing TikTok.
• 52:36
  And nobody was doing TikTok yet.
• 52:38
  And he had told me a month before he's like,
• 52:39
  Ryan, you got to do TikTok.
• 52:41
  It's the big thing.
• 52:42
  It's going to be the next big thing.
• 52:44
  I'm like, Kong, I ain't trying to go be
• 52:46
  freaking some guy dancing around like you
• 52:49
  doing the stupid TikTok.
• 52:50
  He attacks me that day.
• 52:51
  He goes, Ryan,
• 52:53
  did you start TikTok?
• 52:54
  Did you,
• 52:54
  you committed that you were at least going to start a prop?
• 52:56
  Did you do it?
• 52:58
  I was like, all right, God.
• 53:00
  I see this, this is clear.
• 53:02
  So I'm like, I guess I'm going to do YouTube and TikTok.
• 53:06
  And that's what I did during COVID.
• 53:07
  I did it for like three months.
• 53:09
  And within three months,
• 53:10
  I had a hundred thousand followers on TikTok.
• 53:12
  I had a, I don't even know,
• 53:15
  like maybe 10,000 subscribers on YouTube or something.
• 53:18
  You know, I got monetized by the end of the year.
• 53:20
  I had 75,000 subscribers,
• 53:23
  like 400,000 TikTok followers.
• 53:25
  And it was all because I had prayed and asked.
• 53:27
  But I also was aware enough to see that God was speaking through me
• 53:32
  or through other people to confirm it.
• 53:34
  I'm going to, I'm going to add on one thing that I think
• 53:37
  happened that allowed you to do this.
• 53:39
  I think that because,
• 53:41
  again, you focus on like ancient wisdom,
• 53:43
  biblical principles,
• 53:44
  you have this balance in your life.
• 53:47
  When you have that balance,
• 53:48
  you have time to think.
• 53:49
  Oh, yeah, I'm for creative.
• 53:51
  Oh, yeah.
• 53:51
  That's a big one of ideas.
• 53:52
  Because when you don't have that balance in your life,
• 53:55
  if you think that working 100 hours a week is a good thing to do
• 53:58
  and you don't respect your family and your wife
• 54:00
  and your time to sit down for dinner with them,
• 54:04
  then you don't, you don't even realize
• 54:06
  when these ideas come to you that you should action on them
• 54:08
  or you're not paying attention to the DM you're getting
• 54:10
  or your friend telling you to start a TikTok.
• 54:12
  I love that you brought that up.
• 54:15
  We would call that margin.
• 54:16
  You had to have enough margin in your life
• 54:18
  to allow things to happen, right?
• 54:21
  Because if you're just literally booked out.
• 54:23
  So like, you know,
• 54:24
  the reason why you have margin in your life
• 54:26
  is because again, you follow.
• 54:28
  Yeah, and I plan for margin.
• 54:29
  Yeah.
• 54:30
  Like, I don't think I have to fill my schedule
• 54:32
  for 12 hours a day with stuff.
• 54:34
  It's like, no, I got nine to five stuff.
• 54:36
  And then all the other time is margin.
• 54:38
  Yeah.
• 54:39
  And even during the work day,
• 54:41
  I have a lot of margin.
• 54:42
  Like today, I didn't...
• 54:44
  Like, I'll have to do this film with you.
• 54:46
  But then I just, you know,
• 54:47
  I find things to do that I think are the best use.
• 54:49
  But my team will tell you,
• 54:52
  in the morning is when I pray and,
• 54:55
  you know, it's always around like five,
• 54:57
  30 to six, 30.
• 54:59
  So I pray and do my morning routine.
• 55:02
  And I text them when I pray
• 55:04
  because I don't want to forget.
• 55:05
  You know, I'll be in prayer.
• 55:06
  I'll be reading the Bible.
• 55:08
  And then like, I'll just get a thought.
• 55:10
  And I'll be like, hey guys, we need to do this.
• 55:12
  Nobody responds.
• 55:16
  And then I just keep doing, you know,
• 55:17
  I just keep on my day.
• 55:18
  Keep praying and doing my thing.
• 55:19
  Like, oh yeah, let's do this.
• 55:22
  Okay, we're going to get this person at the event.
• 55:23
  Yeah.
• 55:24
  And like, it's because
• 55:26
  it's not even that I'm thinking about that thing.
• 55:28
  I'm not like, man, who's supposed to be at the event?
• 55:32
  Like, what's the next great ad idea?
• 55:34
  What's the marketing strategy?
• 55:36
  It just comes to me.
• 55:38
  And I believe that that is, you know, divine.
• 55:41
  I'm actually curious if you got pushed back
• 55:44
  from an entrepreneurial community
• 55:46
  when you started including faith in more of your content.
• 55:48
  Oh, for sure.
• 55:49
  Yeah.
• 55:50
  I mean, the Bible says that's going to happen.
• 55:53
  Persecution will come.
• 55:54
  So talk to me about, you have this beautiful room
• 55:57
  where you do events.
• 55:58
  I think that there's there's
• 56:00
  God, faith, Jesus Bible, including these events.
• 56:03
  I was listening to one another podcast
• 56:04
  and you said that you just started to like just embed it.
• 56:07
  Yeah, like, it's like, yeah,
• 56:08
  casually, like, if you're doing an event,
• 56:09
  we're going to throw a little bit of God into this event now.
• 56:11
  Yep.
• 56:12
  Is that been a net positive for the business?
• 56:14
  Um, probably not.
• 56:16
  But to be honest,
• 56:17
  yeah, you know what, here he is.
• 56:18
  Well, you know, I think I got more, um,
• 56:21
  bold, let's say the last two years and, uh,
• 56:25
  yeah, speaking of like one of our events, right, um,
• 56:27
  you know, we used to hold an event every quarter
• 56:29
  called WealthCon.
• 56:30
  Now we're going to do it just once a year.
• 56:31
  But, you know, we did this literally every quarter for five years
• 56:35
  and it just kept growing every quarter.
• 56:36
  It was like 10 people, then 50 people,
• 56:39
  then 100, then a thousand plus every quarter.
• 56:42
  And so, you know, we got really good thrown events
• 56:45
  just doing them so frequently.
• 56:46
  But, you know, during WealthCon,
• 56:48
  I mean, people have always known on my Christian,
• 56:49
  it just started to get way more extreme.
• 56:52
  And I just became way more convicted the last couple of years.
• 56:56
  Why?
• 56:57
  Yeah.
• 56:58
  Um, I had something happen.
• 57:03
  This is where now we're going to go into like some theological things.
• 57:06
  But in the Christian faith and some denominations,
• 57:10
  there's something called the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
• 57:13
  And so without getting too in depth about it,
• 57:16
  it's essentially like this supernatural rebirth,
• 57:20
  where now God is just like essentially like lighting you on fire to like
• 57:26
  just at this whole new level of faith.
• 57:28
  So it's very different than, you know,
• 57:30
  when you first get saved for a lot of people where, um,
• 57:33
  you know, I grew up in the church, like I said,
• 57:35
  like I've been saved a long time.
• 57:36
  Um, but it was kind of like this second awakening, I should say.
• 57:40
  And this, this, this is biblical.
• 57:42
  It happened in Acts, you know,
• 57:44
  there's people getting saved all the time.
• 57:45
  And then Paul's like, dude, you guys are, um,
• 57:48
  you know, the disciples keep going to these people are like,
• 57:50
  you don't have the Holy Spirit yet.
• 57:51
  Let me bless you with the Holy Spirit.
• 57:53
  And so, you know, the Holy Spirit comes on them.
• 57:56
  And they start performing supernatural things.
• 57:58
  You know, they start healing people.
• 57:59
  They start speaking in tongues and all these other things.
• 58:02
  So that's literally what happened to me.
• 58:04
  Like I started speaking in tongues and performing supernatural things.
• 58:08
  And I was like, this is crazy.
• 58:10
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  What do you mean performing super natural things?
• 59:47
  Like seeing people healed,
• 59:50
  speaking in tongues is like an unknown language.
• 59:55
  You know, other things with just like visions and dreams
• 59:59
  and like, this is what's happening to you.
• 1:00:00
  Two years ago, yeah.
• 1:00:01
  There was no reason why it happened.
• 1:00:03
  But it happened because I was at an event.
• 1:00:06
  I was actually at a Christian event.
• 1:00:08
  And I was actually unfamiliar with this belief
• 1:00:11
  because I didn't grow up in a church
• 1:00:12
  that really kind of talked about that.
• 1:00:14
  They're just like, you don't get say.
• 1:00:17
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:00:17
  Like I grew up in a very conservative denomination
• 1:00:19
  where you'll see people like just getting healed at church
• 1:00:22
  and like people prophesying over other people
• 1:00:25
  talking about things that,
• 1:00:27
  you know, a lot of it is the stuff you would see on YouTube
• 1:00:30
  that looks all weird
• 1:00:32
  and everything else in your life,
• 1:00:33
  dude, that looks like fake.
• 1:00:34
  That's how I thought about it the whole time, right?
• 1:00:36
  And there's definitely some of that,
• 1:00:38
  like everything on YouTube.
• 1:00:39
  Everything, who knows what's fake?
• 1:00:41
  Who knows what's right?
• 1:00:41
  Right, like I feel like the don't believe everything
• 1:00:44
  you read on the internet is not.
• 1:00:45
  Yeah, exactly, right?
• 1:00:46
  So I was always skeptical until I started seeing it
• 1:00:50
  literally firsthand and it was undeniable.
• 1:00:52
  And you know, I had someone lay hands on me.
• 1:00:55
  He was like, you know,
• 1:00:57
  do you, you know, like wanted to,
• 1:01:01
  do you want to basically that kind of power?
• 1:01:02
  Do you want to accept it in your life?
• 1:01:04
  And I'm like, I don't even know what this is,
• 1:01:06
  but sure, it was like lightning shot through me.
• 1:01:10
  And the best way to like explain it was,
• 1:01:14
  I just didn't even, I even went to my wife.
• 1:01:16
  I mean, we've been believers our whole lives
• 1:01:17
  and I was like, they, I really don't even know
• 1:01:19
  what just happened to me.
• 1:01:21
  And I explained it to her the way I'm explained to you now.
• 1:01:23
  I was like, I started speaking in some language.
• 1:01:25
  I don't even know, like this is weird.
• 1:01:27
  Gladden.
• 1:01:29
  Tongues are like in the Bible, it describes it
• 1:01:31
  as a heavenly language.
• 1:01:32
  So it's not a language of their
• 1:01:34
  Mac. No, not even.
• 1:01:36
  No, I mean, if you, if you just go on YouTube
• 1:01:38
  and you search speaking in tongues,
• 1:01:39
  you'll see like, I've never gone down this rabbit hole.
• 1:01:41
  This is going to really change my explore page.
• 1:01:43
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:43
  So go down this rabbit hole about baptism of the Holy Spirit.
• 1:01:47
  Like I said, there's a lot of denominations
• 1:01:49
  who don't necessarily believe in it.
• 1:01:50
  And I was one of those people.
• 1:01:51
  And then I experienced it and I'm like, this is crazy.
• 1:01:55
  So, you know, like, and I'll give an example too, like,
• 1:01:59
  just literally three months ago,
• 1:02:00
  or no, two months ago, my business coach, his name's Gary,
• 1:02:03
  he called me and he had a, he was crying.
• 1:02:06
  It was like 630 in the morning.
• 1:02:08
  And I was like, why is my business coach called me?
• 1:02:10
  It's 630 in the morning crying.
• 1:02:11
  He goes, dude, I just found out I have a tumor on my kidney.
• 1:02:15
  It's a size of a grapefruit.
• 1:02:17
  And I was like, well, let's pray, you know?
• 1:02:20
  Like, let's pray for healing right now.
• 1:02:22
  And so we pray over the phone.
• 1:02:25
  You know, I can feel something happening.
• 1:02:27
  And he's like, okay, well, you know, I have to go get checked up.
• 1:02:32
  They're going to check if it's cancer
• 1:02:33
  and everything else six hours from now.
• 1:02:35
  He, by the way, he's already had Lyme disease and other things.
• 1:02:38
  Like, you know, he's not in the best shape.
• 1:02:41
  He's had a lot of different physical things over his life.
• 1:02:44
  And so, but, you know, we pray.
• 1:02:46
  And he's like, dude, I like feel like a lot of peace and like warm,
• 1:02:50
  like my body feels really warm right now.
• 1:02:52
  Am I okay?
• 1:02:54
  Six hours later, he calls me.
• 1:02:56
  He's like, dude, you'll never believe this.
• 1:02:58
  I got a bet you I will.
• 1:02:59
  And he says, they said the tumor has liquefied.
• 1:03:06
  It's actually just now full of fluid.
• 1:03:08
  They're only in half the do surgery.
• 1:03:10
  All they have to do is just put a pin in it and drain it.
• 1:03:13
  And it's gone.
• 1:03:14
  Okay.
• 1:03:15
  Yeah, that's wild.
• 1:03:16
  That was like two months ago.
• 1:03:18
  So, I have literally not only witnessed,
• 1:03:22
  but been a part, I mean, if that happens,
• 1:03:24
  you I can understand why you eviction.
• 1:03:26
  Well, that's why I'm like, people just need to know.
• 1:03:28
  Like, none of the stuff matters because I've just seen it now first hand.
• 1:03:31
  And I've seen people, you know, do prophetic things.
• 1:03:34
  Prophecy, meaning like talk about things to come that have happened in my life.
• 1:03:38
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:03:38
  So, of course, I have a follow up with this.
• 1:03:40
  Because I understand why you have conviction.
• 1:03:42
  Yep.
• 1:03:43
  I understand why I included in your messaging.
• 1:03:45
  And on YouTube and with the events you hold.
• 1:03:48
  But you also have to understand that this would turn people off from it.
• 1:03:51
  Oh, for sure.
• 1:03:52
  Yeah, people what's listening to this right now don't believe me.
• 1:03:54
  But if your goal is to help as many people as possible,
• 1:03:56
  you have to find a way to
• 1:03:59
  sit with your convictions.
• 1:04:01
  It still reaches wide an audience as possible.
• 1:04:03
  Yeah, and I agree.
• 1:04:04
  So, on number one, the way you help people is by giving them the truth, right?
• 1:04:09
  You know, so I think it's first and foremost always delivering the truth.
• 1:04:12
  Whether they like it or not, that's on them.
• 1:04:14
  Now, do I got to just make everything about faith?
• 1:04:18
  I'm just going to do what?
• 1:04:20
  Well, however we didn't know we were going to talk about this, right?
• 1:04:22
  Like, it's just, hey, this is what we're talking about.
• 1:04:25
  But, like, at my events, right?
• 1:04:27
  Like, I have secular events for profit.
• 1:04:30
  You know, we're going to teach you how to make money,
• 1:04:32
  do real estate, all that stuff.
• 1:04:34
  So, I don't stop doing all the normal things that anyone can be a part of.
• 1:04:39
  But, like, what ended up happening in my event?
• 1:04:40
  How this whole conversation started?
• 1:04:42
  So, two years ago, that happened to me, right?
• 1:04:44
  So, I'm starting to talk about faith more at events, like, you know, whatever.
• 1:04:48
  So, then somebody says, dude, we should do, like, a prayer meeting at the next event.
• 1:04:53
  I was like, all right, let's do a prayer meeting.
• 1:04:55
  Like, we'll do it like 7.30 before the event that starts at 9.
• 1:04:59
  And, you know, we'll just pray over everybody.
• 1:05:01
  It's going to be beautiful.
• 1:05:02
  Mind you, you know, there's a thousand people at the event.
• 1:05:05
  Well, I do a prayer meeting.
• 1:05:06
  I'm thinking maybe like 50 people show up 100.
• 1:05:09
  Like, you know, it's early.
• 1:05:10
  We just were out late the night before.
• 1:05:12
  400 people showed up.
• 1:05:14
  And I was like, oh, this is the thing.
• 1:05:17
  All right.
• 1:05:18
  Well, I'm like, well, I can't like pray.
• 1:05:21
  Like, we're going to have to give a sermon.
• 1:05:23
  So, I basically just give an impromptu sermon.
• 1:05:26
  And so, then, you know, everybody loves it.
• 1:05:29
  And they're like, dude, next time we should bring, you know,
• 1:05:32
  somebody to do worship music.
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  Like, let's bring a guitar and like a little thing.
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  And we'll do worship and stuff.
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  And I go, if we're going to go through all that,
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  we might as well just rock out on the stage
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  and just do it all out there.
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  Why are we going to like do it like half effort?
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  And so, the next wealth, I go, all right, here's the thing.
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  You know, we're going to do a worship service.
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  It's going to be part of the event 9 a.m.
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  on day two, right in the middle.
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  And it's going to be like an hour and a half.
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  You know, it's going to be a big part of it.
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  We're going to sing.
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  We're going to pray for people.
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  We're going to see people get saved.
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  I'm going to bring in a famous pastor to give a message.
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  And we did that and people loved it.
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  You know, some people, well, a lot of people loved it.
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  But you know, some people are like, I ain't going to that.
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  You know, because I put it on the schedule.
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  I was like, hey, it's optional if you guys want to come.
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  If not, come at like 10 30.
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  Yeah.
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  But we always went long.
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  So they were there anyways.
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  So we ended up in it anyways.
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  So then after that,
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  each time they're after I was just like,
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  I'm not even putting it in the event.
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  Like just show up 9 to 5.
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  And you know, day two, you're going to walk into
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  something you weren't expecting.
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  I think the people, I think it hits with so many people.
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  I mean, it's going to turn some people off.
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  You bring this into your message.
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  But it's you.
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  So I think that you should bring it in.
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  I mean, yeah, it is part of.
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  Yeah.
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  And they know what I believe.
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  Exactly.
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  And I think that's, I think,
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  and I think that you attract the people that
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  are meant to hear what you have to say.
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  That's really important.
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  But I also think that a lot of people right now
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  in like, you know,
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  try and keep this evergreen as possible.
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  And the 2024.
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  So you know, we recorded this.
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  But I think a lot of people feel lost and stressed
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  I think that again, there is godlessness.
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  And people that know to replace it with.
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  Now life is just stressful and anxiety inducing.
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  And they want, and they need people.
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  People need something.
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  People are hungry, dude.
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  Yeah.
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  I've seen people more hungry than ever
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  to at least hear about faith because, yeah.
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  You know, I think we went through from 2016 to 2022, 2023.
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  Whereas like everybody's wanted to be woke.
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  And it's counter-cultural to do this.
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  Like if you like Trump,
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  freaking everyone wants to start
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  thinks you're a bigot.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, they're doing all this weird stuff
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  and holly was scared people away from traditional values.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, dude, for you saying,
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  oh, I don't believe in gay marriage is like,
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  oh, bro, you're a bigot.
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  It's like, no, this is literally.
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  This is what I believe.
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  It's not on my bigot.
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  It's like, you know, whatever, right?
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  That's the whole thing.
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  Now, people are finally kind of, I would say,
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  back to center where it's like, you know, yeah, no.
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  Nobody thinks it's cool to be woke anymore.
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  You know, you got idiots who do.
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  But, you know, I think majority of America,
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  I mean, they just spoke through the election, right?
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  Majority of America is like,
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  nah, we don't even want to be close to what those people
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  that were even like liberal.
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  We're now getting ostracized by their own people.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah, so yeah, it's just ridiculous, right?
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  And so it became this narrative of like hyper liberalism
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  was like, supposedly the norm.
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  It's like, no, dude, it's not, okay?
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  So I think like, the world is now more center.
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  And yeah, I mean, they're more open to receiving now.
• 1:08:43
  Yeah, I mean, it's okay to have a family.
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  It's okay to have kids.
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  Weird, yeah.
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  Okay, that I have faith.
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  Like, I don't these are bad things.
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  They were.
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  They were definitely, uh, they were.
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  They were not looked highly of the past couple of years.
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  They've been just nuts.
• 1:08:58
  I mean, you have a human corpse as the president for four years.
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  People are like, bro, like, okay, everyone said he was a corpse.
• 1:09:07
  And we tried to, okay, we don't really believe anything.
• 1:09:10
  I think I think everything's healing now.
• 1:09:11
  Yeah, everything's healing.
• 1:09:13
  What are you working on now?
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  You have a nonprofit?
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  Yeah, yeah, we have a nonprofit called wealthy kingdom.
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  You go to wealthy kingdom.com.
• 1:09:19
  So anyone who's like listening to what I'm saying is like,
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  dude, I love it.
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  Just go there and get plugged in.
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  You know, we have a free community.
• 1:09:26
  We do free Zoom calls every month or every week based on what the,
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  like, what is it?
• 1:09:30
  Oh, so, okay, great point.
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  So, um, the mission of wealthy kingdom is to bring the kingdom,
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  the Christian kingdom.
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  So we believe to the marketplace.
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  And so, you know, I believe that Bible verse actually reference
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  that it's harder for a rich person to get in heaven
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  than it is for a camel to go through the eye of the needle.
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  And, um, I'm trying to help business people see,
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  you know, what it's like, you know,
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  because I don't expect them to just walk through church on a Sunday.
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  I don't expect them to understand these things.
• 1:09:56
  But, you know, if you get around other, like you and I right now,
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  we're having a conversation.
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  It's like, because we're business people,
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  because we have similar problems and, you know, similar interests.
• 1:10:05
  Like, we can have a conversation about this versus
• 1:10:08
  you might not be just hanging out with the pastor,
• 1:10:10
  you know, like having these conversations.
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  And so, I think that it's good for other business people
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  to get around other business people,
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  whether you're a believer or non-believer.
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  And so, we do that.
• 1:10:20
  We also have small groups all across the world.
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  So, we have, I think, 80 of them right now going on.
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  That's, that's good.
• 1:10:27
  Yeah, that's very good.
• 1:10:28
  So, they're in offices, they're in homes,
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  you know, mines every Wednesday.
• 1:10:33
  Um, we, we have them literally all over the world.
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  And some virtual, but most of them are local.
• 1:10:38
  So, like, we could plug you into a local ones, all free.
• 1:10:41
  Um, then we're doing free events, uh,
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  called Kingdom Nights.
• 1:10:45
  And so, we got a couple of those already planned for the next couple of months.
• 1:10:48
  Uh, those are going to be amazing.
• 1:10:51
  And I think that my goal with those is to do two things.
• 1:10:54
  So, it's like, it's, it's two nights.
• 1:10:55
  Well, two days I should say one night
• 1:10:57
  and then the next morning.
• 1:10:59
  But the, the first night is what I would call the spiritual side of faith.
• 1:11:02
  So, all things we're talking about.
• 1:11:03
  Like, I believe that there's going to be people who get healed.
• 1:11:06
  There's people who are going to have anxiety and depression
• 1:11:09
  and things just freed from their life.
• 1:11:11
  I've seen it so many times now at this point.
• 1:11:14
  Um, and so, we're going to be praying for people
• 1:11:17
  and really showing that side.
• 1:11:19
  And then day two is for the logical guys like you and me
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  who, um, really need some tactical things
• 1:11:25
  on how to grow closer with God,
• 1:11:27
  how to apply this into their life.
• 1:11:29
  And so, um, I'll be teacher for like three hours straight about tactically.
• 1:11:33
  You know, here's how we incorporate God into our family.
• 1:11:36
  Here's how we do it in business.
• 1:11:37
  Here's how we do it.
• 1:11:38
  Just one-on-one.
• 1:11:40
  So, I'm excited about those.
• 1:11:41
  And then, you know, we'll have one massive event
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  called the Kingdom Summit in April.
• 1:11:45
  Amazing.
• 1:11:45
  Yeah.
• 1:11:47
  What would be a last, last piece of advice,
• 1:11:51
  you know, words of wisdom, insight,
• 1:11:53
  even something that I should have asked you
• 1:11:54
  that I didn't you want to leave the audience with?
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  Yeah.
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  I think, uh, obviously I've talked about like what I believe
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  is the most important thing.
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  I think on maybe a, um, lesser level,
• 1:12:06
  but obviously very important is,
• 1:12:09
  this is just what I tell all the business people and entrepreneurs.
• 1:12:12
  Like, I was a guy who pursued many things
• 1:12:14
  and I was successful at quite a few things.
• 1:12:17
  You know, I've had six seven-figure businesses at one time,
• 1:12:21
  you know, that I found it, that I've been the CEO of
• 1:12:23
  and like, you know, running them in all different ways.
• 1:12:26
  I have since simplified very, very streamlined.
• 1:12:30
  I still got, you know, multiple businesses,
• 1:12:31
  but they're all like, I would say I'm vertically integrated.
• 1:12:34
  They all complement one another.
• 1:12:35
  So, it's not even like, in my mind, they're that separated.
• 1:12:40
  But yeah, I would say, man, to be really great at something,
• 1:12:43
  you got to really focus and go all in.
• 1:12:47
  I've just been so guilty of trying to be a master of lots of things at once.
• 1:12:51
  And I think you can master a lot of skills.
• 1:12:53
  Like I, I have a lot of skills now,
• 1:12:56
  but it's because I only focused on those skills
• 1:12:59
  for a long period of time, you know.
• 1:13:01
  I was good at baseball because that's all I did for a long, long time.
• 1:13:04
  Then I did flipping houses for, you know, five, eight years.
• 1:13:08
  That's all I did before I then got on social media.
• 1:13:10
  Then I focused on social media for five years.
• 1:13:12
  That's all I did.
• 1:13:13
  Now I'm focused on the non-profit.
• 1:13:14
  It's like, that's a whole new world.
• 1:13:16
  If I want to have a great non-profit,
• 1:13:18
  I mean, like, I got to really focus on it.
• 1:13:20
  Where can people connect with you?
• 1:13:22
  I mean, you dropped one website,
• 1:13:24
  but all the other socials.
• 1:13:25
  Yeah, I think just follow me around Panada everywhere on social media.
• 1:13:29
  You know, obviously I have other,
• 1:13:30
  I have actual real businesses too.
• 1:13:32
  You know, like, people can learn to invest in real estate
• 1:13:36
  by going to wealthyinvestor.com.
• 1:13:38
  We teach people how to do that.
• 1:13:39
  I'll put everything in.
• 1:13:40
  Yeah, Joe notes too.
• 1:13:40
  So all the links everywhere.
• 1:13:41
  We'll put them in the show notes.
• 1:13:43
  So last question I like to ask.
• 1:13:45
  What would be one lesson that you want to leave your kids with?
• 1:13:48
  Okay, so besides follow Jesus,
• 1:13:51
  because that's definitely for me all I care about.
• 1:13:53
  But like, people have asked me too.
• 1:13:54
  They're like, do you want your kids to play baseball?
• 1:13:56
  Do you want them to do real estate?
• 1:13:58
  I'm super into golf now.
• 1:13:59
  Like, do you think they're going to play golf?
• 1:14:01
  And I'm like, honestly,
• 1:14:02
  I do not care what they want to do for a profession or a career.
• 1:14:05
  All I care about is that they follow Jesus.
• 1:14:08
  If they do that, they could do whatever.
• 1:14:10
  I'll support them if they want to start a bakery,
• 1:14:12
  you know, whatever.
• 1:14:13
  So that's for sure the main lesson.
• 1:14:16
  The second thing I would say is for them,
• 1:14:22
  man, I just got to teach them work ethic.
• 1:14:24
  And that's something that I have because I was forced to have it.
• 1:14:29
  You know, my parents lost everything in the great recession.
• 1:14:32
  I had to provide for myself while pursuing a career.
• 1:14:35
  While being married young, while figuring out like, you know,
• 1:14:39
  no mentors or anything like social media wasn't what it is today.
• 1:14:43
  And so I was able to work really hard.
• 1:14:46
  And I think that I just really want my kids to work hard.
• 1:14:50
  I don't want them to be lazy.
• 1:14:52
  They're going to grow up in a very different way than I did.
• 1:14:55
  You know, they're going to grow up around wealth
• 1:14:57
  and like all these resources.
• 1:14:59
  And like, it's going to be normal for them to be with like,
• 1:15:02
  celebrities and, you know, vacations and all these things.
• 1:15:06
  So it's like, I'm really trying to figure out,
• 1:15:08
  man, how can I make sure they also are made tough and go through hard things?
• 1:15:14
  Because it's important, you know, how?
• 1:15:16
  Did, you know, that's one of the biggest issues that you, you know, like,
• 1:15:19
  yeah, making sure once you've achieved success,
• 1:15:22
  that your kids don't turn into like entitled assholes.
• 1:15:24
  Exactly.
• 1:15:25
  No, and that's what I'm like really now that I'm, you know,
• 1:15:27
  I'm not there yet where it's, you know, my oldest is five.
• 1:15:31
  So I'm not there yet where it's, it's, you know, a problem quite yet.
• 1:15:37
  But, you know, I think this is actually good lesson.
• 1:15:39
  I don't think it's important to have all the answers right now.
• 1:15:41
  You know, I think for me, I got eight million other problems.
• 1:15:45
  That one is obviously a upcoming problem as time goes on.
• 1:15:49
  But I don't think that it needs to get solved right this moment.
• 1:15:52
  And I think that people need to realize that's okay.