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Pack Lane · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the Boundary Corner Podcast along with my
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  Moments on the Maury What's up? We got here.
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  We got. Here.
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  It's been too long. It's been too long since all
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  three of us were here. Been like a month.
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  Tally. Man oh man, Tally is going
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  freeze, unfreeze, freeze, unfreeze.
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  That Alabama Internet man. Starlink, can you hear us?
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  Tally, here's now. You moving?
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  Oh, he jumped off. Tally will be back momentarily
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  as he as he takes a baseball bat to the Wi-Fi.
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  Good to have him back as the struggles may be.
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  Brian, just good to be back doing this in general.
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  Get him back up here. You hear us now.
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  Are you, are you, are we getting there?
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  Thanks. So I hope so all.
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  Right, because you. Can hear you.
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  Can you hear us? We'll think we're good.
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  You hear us? Yeah, I can hear you all.
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  Right, Kylie? What's been up, man?
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  I can see Curtis's cool hat. Softball dad baseball season
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  man. Knee deep in baseball season and
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  watching the Virginia Tech Hokies get a lot out of
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  defensive lineman. You damn right, multiple
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  defensive lineman. Go in and we'll see how it goes.
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  But tally is 100% right. A lot of defensive lineman
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  coming on the boat in the last few days.
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  We will hit that in just a few minutes here with the couple of
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  the OR the most recent and one potential tomorrow.
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  We'll talk about that. But you know we got a few other
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  things done low. We are going to do a little
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  spring game preview kind of things that we're looking
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  forward to looking at as likely me and Tally watching on a
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  CCXNX. Is that where it's going to be
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  3? Is that what I saw earlier?
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  ACC and extra Yeah. Going to be on at 3:00 so you
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  can see the game live I think. I think I read it's going to be
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  the hokey vision production. So have that which will, but at
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  least you get to see it. We're going to get to that.
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  We kind of got three things. We're pointing out what we're
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  looking for during the game. But obviously some things have
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  changed inside of Hokie Nation since we last came last week.
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  And the biggest is or a couple of the big ones are President
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  Tim Sands is going to be set to retire.
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  I am assuming it's going to be in the next six months after 12
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  years with the university. Ron.
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  Are we ready to? Are we ready to talk about it a
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  little bit? Ready.
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  To talk about a. Little bit, I mean, I think this
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  is something that folks knew was going to probably come down in
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  the next couple years. I think, you know, we probably
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  saw this coming a little bit sooner than I think most people
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  expected with with San stepping down over the coming, you know,
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  whatever six months as they try to, you know, approach a
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  successor and and get that in place.
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  It's it's really interesting because, you know, as all of
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  this is coming out, you know, Franklin's talking with people
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  about institutional alignment and all of a sudden you're like,
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  all right, the president's out. And for all that Tim Sands has
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  done good or I'll, he certainly wasn't someone that was football
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  friendly. In this modern era, sports don't
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  even say football. Yeah, we can say sports.
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  We can say sports. I'll say sports friendly, I
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  mean, because in general, you know, since he got here in 2014,
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  obviously, I mean, not a great 12 year run of football in those
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  years. Not really a 12 year run of any
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  sport On what I would say to me, there's like there's a Big 5.
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  And if you ask me what the Big 5 are, it's obviously football's
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  one, men and women's basketball. But softball and baseball,
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  they're lagging behind. But they get so much notoriety
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  this time of year, right? Like Tally, I know you're down
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  in SEC country, we're in ACC country.
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  Those baseball games are all over the place.
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  Those softball games are all over ESPN.
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  They're all over all the networks.
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  And there was never anything there for him.
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  And then he made the comment about the bubble.
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  Remember the bubble comment? College sport has a bubble
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  that's going to burst and he thought it was going to burst.
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  Well, 12 years later, it ain't burst yet.
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  It's growing bigger and bigger. And then his tenure here.
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  So what you want to say effectively Virginia Tech got
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  behind whether that is his fault or not.
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  Take it however you want it. But Charlie, anything on this?
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  I mean, does it matter to you again, you're you're you're a
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  Virginia Tech sports fan where you know, we have friends
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  neighbors Brian and I have neighbors and friends who are
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  alumni went there. But anything for you.
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  I just want the people to make the sports good.
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  That's all I want. Like if you don't want to make
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  sports good, get out. You know what I'm saying?
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  Get out of here. So I don't know much about what
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  he has done and what he hadn't done, but I know enough people
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  who can tell me what he had and haven't done.
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  DD Cunningham, you guys feel and y'all say it's time to go.
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  So guess what man, Tim's saying it's time to go buddy.
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  You all have a good I'll. Go to the place.
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  There you go. Good one by.
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  Phil, I like what Phil just put up right there because you've
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  got to be willing to move and make the moves as the president.
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  So Tim Sands gone, it will be interesting to see the coaching
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  or the president search. I mean, obviously, are we going
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  to follow a tooth and nail? Probably, but it's probably
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  going to be where they coming from.
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  Because if you come and tell me Tally or Brian, oh, this guy was
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  at the University of Florida or University of Georgia or like a
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  Michigan, OK, you sit here and start saying, OK, they take
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  sports very seriously in all those elements.
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  But if you say it's someone like, I don't know, make up a
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  school Tally, you good at that? Central Sideways, Michigan.
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  There you go. Central sideways Michigan.
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  Oh, wait a second. That ain't a big time sports.
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  Like they're not coming from that big one.
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  So we're going to be sitting here likely doing this.
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  God, they gave me sound effects. They don't know what they've
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  done, Curtis. Curtis started early with them,
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  man. It's going to be all the.
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  Time we get a little bit of a soundboard, Curtis.
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  Like I got, I got to throw it in here.
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  I got to throw it in here man. Oh y'all wait, Tally's getting
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  access starting next week to the soundboard, so y'all can only
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  imagine what he's going to do with this.
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  Time I want to even be a show. I mean tally soundboard.
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  All right, so Sam's gone. The search will be interesting
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  over the probably the I would I would assume it would be similar
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  to Sam's probably October will be the entry.
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  But then we got good news wrote by Andy bitter this this week or
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  late last week and y'all know I'm a butcher of names.
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  I'm going to do my best May Who'll say honey is back on the
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  Bob? Maybe.
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  Hey man, I think you did OK there.
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  I'll, I'll start there. I think you did OK.
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  You got through it and that's that's what counts.
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  But getting Mayhul back and, and the funniest part of the Mayhul
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  the the whole situation was they did him dirty with the initial
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  photo that they threw up there and he and he was hurt about it
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  and Andy brought it up and they got, they got it right.
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  And I, and I commented, I was like, hey now, y'all got to take
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  care of our buddy Terrell Smith. Y'all got to go get him a new
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  photo. Y'all got, y'all got the 1 from
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  2020 still floating out there. So, but yeah, getting my whole
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  back on there. I mean, that's somebody that is,
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  that's a, that's a football guy. That's a guy that, that, I mean,
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  he loves all the, all the Virginia Tech athletics, but I
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  mean, he eats, sleeps and breathes Virginia Tech football.
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  And getting that type of person on the board of visitors is only
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  going to be a good thing for football.
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  I just seen him at the game. If you go look up the pictures
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  on Twitter and you see him on the sideline, who was it
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  against? Was it against Miami or Georgia
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  Tech? I can't even.
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  No, it was just Boston College. Boston College.
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  OK Oh yeah, the the blowout game, yeah, I.
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  Think it was Boston College. I mean, he deserves to be on
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  just for that picture, so I'm good.
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  That should be his picture on the BOV, not him in a nice suit.
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  Him screaming into Boston pilot game Obviously having him on
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  there he was or has given the largest donation.
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  Athletics and football clearly a different a step in the right
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  direction with the BOB-2. Again, we're playing catch up,
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  but it's to stay caught up as much as you possibly can.
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  And I think most people know he will definitely stick his neck
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  out there and push the agenda forward to keep Virgin Tech
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  athletics. I'm going to say just in the
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  conversation of one of those programs.
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  All right. Last but not least, which this
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  was expected I think last year at this time, but it didn't
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  happen. John Delenn is retiring in June.
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  On my birthday, what what a gift, what a gift that is, man.
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  This is one that I think a lot of people had been wanting for a
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  long time. And and this is really, you
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  know, when we talk about Virginia Tech from an
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  operational standpoint, being kind of mom and pop operation,
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  John Boleyn in a lot of ways is the face of that from a football
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  perspective at least. So you talk about being able to
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  move past that. You talk about a guy like
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  Franklin coming in and setting up a situation that is football
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  friendly in the athletic department.
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  This is why this is so important because because it's not just we
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  are operating like a major college football program needs
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  to operate now. And I consider John Boleyn the
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  biggest opponent to moving in that direction from a
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  organizational structure, especially when it comes to
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  football, but also within the athletic department in general.
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  You got to get the old people out of there.
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  They got to go, man. You got to get the old people
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  who don't want to hear stick it in young boy, NBA2K, whatever
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  his name is, like I don't want to listen to him, but the kids
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  are going to listen to him. So you got to get, you got to
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  get the place height, man, you got to get it.
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  If you going to be a part of a university, a part of sports,
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  you got to figure out what's going to fill the stands and you
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  got to figure out what can you do to win.
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  Most of the time that's cheap. So we need some people that's
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  going to cheat and some people that's going to turn their head
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  and let me cheat. I will cheat.
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  I don't know what Belandin was doing.
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  They was cheating in another way, like he was putting his
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  family members on the staff. Somebody just said can he get
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  his daughter removed? I don't even know if she's good
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  at what she does, but whatever, I thought she.
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  Moved on a couple years ago, I thought.
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  I thought she was. Oh, she did.
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  What's she doing now? Just.
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  Since she in the basketball staff.
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  OK, I think she's in women's fans in some way.
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  She was, she was with football, so I guess maybe she.
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  Was with football. She just got dragged.
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  Out when things got shuffled. But but what?
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  What Mama Boleyn like she's been in a basketball game for?
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  Years. Oh.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  The basketball. Whole family and he'll knock
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  fucking off. Yeah, but, and here's the point
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  about John Boleyn. Because if everybody knows the
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  story, John Boleyn. Hey buddy BI, see you.
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  But the javelin, I think what Tally just said is right.
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  He was too old, dear. He was Frank Beamer's right hand
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  man for a long time. During a lot of good seasons.
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  He made a lot of good things happen because if you look at
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  when he was here, he was like the basically the football
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  operations guy in the early 90s and then the associate AD
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  football. Curtis, I want you to finish
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  your statement. I want you to finish your
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  statement, but you just said Beamer's right hand man.
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  Beamer's right hand man. But this is the point that you
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  make. Wait, listen, in 2015 when Frank
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  left Java Lynch and no, no, no, I can't disagree with.
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  That, no, yeah, right. So that's what I'm going back
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  to. Yeah.
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  I don't even know if Frank knows if he going and coming these
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  days. I love Frank Bingham, but when
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  you see them keep trotting Frank out here, Frank looks like a wax
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  museum statue right now. Like you got to get the old
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  people off the camera and out of stuff.
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  You know what I'm saying? Frank is enjoying retirement.
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  John Boleyn, go enjoy retirement.
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  You know you made enough money. Go find something to do.
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  I know you got a lot of money. Go play some golf and get drunk
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  and I'll run around next year or something, I don't know.
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  Oh no, don't do that. I just believe that I as well
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  depends on what it. Depends.
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  Well, it's not near me. Venue matters a whole lot more
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  than what you're doing there. There, there's a, there's a
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  proper venue for pretty much anything you want to do if you
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  really want to do it. It's true.
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  All right, so Belen's retiring effectively with Sands, gone
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  with Berlin gong. You know, you're talking about
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  what Brian mentioned a few minutes ago in with what James
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  Franklin keeps saying institution alignment and all
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  this. It looks like certain pieces are
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  moving out. A president not as inclined to
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  support athletics, a executive AD who's more inclined to try to
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  do stuff on the pops way, get them gone, bring new blood in,
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  bring young people in. Somebody late night who who is
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  I'm not again, 40s, not young but in their 40s that are seen
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  and saying you need to do this, you need to do this to keep up.
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  We can't do it the old way. Let's talk mindset before,
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  before we got a poll. We're going to throw up here for
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  you in a second here, but let's talk mindset real quick because
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  I think that is the disconnect both with Sans, with went to a
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  degree with John Belen especially is that, and I know
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  WIT kind of predated this a little bit with all this issue
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  predated with a little bit. But the problem that we had from
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  Virginia Tech perspective, especially when it comes to
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  football is that Frank was able to do it this way.
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  Anybody else should be able to come in here and do it the same
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  way. The problem was is twofold #1
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  just cause Frank can do it that way doesn't mean that's the only
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  way it can be done #2 the reason that Frank was pushed out when
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  he was was because things changed and it wasn't working
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  anymore. It wasn't working anymore.
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  Doing it the way we did it from 93 to 2011 wasn't cutting it
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  anymore. It wasn't cutting it anymore.
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  So keeping everything from an operational standpoint the same
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  and just putting in a new coach that that's only going to get
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  you so far. Even even you know, we can shit
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  on Fuente all we want to. We can shit on Pry all we want
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  to. We get that they didn't get the
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  job done, but at the same point in time, things behind the
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  scenes were not operating the way they needed to to give them
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  the best chance for success. I, I agree.
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  I mean, I think that's on point right there.
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  And that's why and again, it took a little bit too long, but
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  you're now seeing kind of the winds of change happen and
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  you're seeing the winds of change.
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  Hold on a second with the poll, Brian, because this is something
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  you brought up at the BOV meeting.
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  Donations are up 25% across the board for the most part.
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  It's only like 1 sector of donation limits is down.
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  Everybody else is up significantly.
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  And right now the amount collected is at all time highs.
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  Like, there you go, you start moving people out of the way.
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  You start getting people in to do new things, new ways, money.
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  Starts. That is a damn good start
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  because money make the world go round.
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  I mean, it's, it's like Wu totals, right?
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  But real quick, we want to try a little something.
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  A lot of people in the comments love seeing it for a poll
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  question. We got to see how this works.
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  And you, you answer the poll question by putting the number
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  you agree with. So which of the three moves is
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  going to impact Hokies football the most?
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  The retiring of Tim Sands. The retiring of John Belen #2 or
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  Mayhul getting back on the Bob, Tim Sands one, Belen's two,
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  Mayhul's three. Put it in the chat and we'll see
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  what y'all are thinking. We'll check back in in a little
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  while on this because all three moves are significant in in both
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  to me, all positive. Hey, look at that.
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  It worked. It worked up.
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  Way to go, Phil. You first.
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  First in, first out, baby. So if you put a number in, give
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  us your opinion, we'll keep it up on the screen there.
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  It's to the left, Batali, answer it up.
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  We got to split. We got to split decisions here,
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  but let's talk Kylie, you mentioned at the beginning of it
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  and Kylie, you, you kind of gotten a little bit back into
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  it. You weren't here last week with
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  Frisbee and Taylor. We talked about the two kids up
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  out of Maryland defensive lineman that committed.
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  But you hit me and Brian up just the other day and you said we're
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  going to get Perkins and we did get Xavier Perkins, 6 foot two,
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  240 LB edge out of Jordan High School in Durham, NC.
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  I can remember Jordan, I believe they had those blue helmets.
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  Borderline a top 10 prospect. I mean, he's a whisper away from
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  being a four-star. Lot of offers across the board.
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  So Kylie, you read up on him a little bit more than me and
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  Brian have. What do you like about the kid
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  that holds offers from, you know, places like Miami,
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  Louisville, Auburn, you know, Ole Miss, quite a few good
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  schools out there wanting him? Yeah, no, just good, good
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  production, good offer list. If you go and look up and down
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  his, you know, social media, Miami was all over him.
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  I mean, he was, I don't want to say a lot.
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  There's no kids a lot even when they commit.
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  But I mean, he's got Ruben bang retweets all type of stuff down
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  his down his X page, down his social media.
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  So you know, he was at Miami a lot.
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  You know, of course Miami is the hot team.
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  They just went, you know, national championship.
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  So they got the best, one of the best D lines that we've seen in
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  the past. What I don't know, maybe 10
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  years. So it was a lot of reasons for
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  that kid to go to Miami like it. It's not hard to sell Miami on a
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  defensive Miami, but Franklin them did their job and and chaos
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  and got in there and plucked them away.
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  So I'm interested to see because it's still a lot of like high
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  defensive lineman that's on the board that I think we sit well
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  with. You know, I'm no recruiting
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  guru, I'm just nosy, but I'm interested to see how many D
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  lineman they take. Because if you think about the
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  offensive lineman this year, we took a lot of offensive lineman
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  this year, I think maybe 7 or 8, which we need.
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  So when you start to look at defensive lineman, it's like who
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  all is going to hop in? Who are they going to let hop
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  in? Who are they?
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  You know, who is at the top of the board?
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  But Xavier Perkins is a good pick up from a recruiting
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  standpoint. A little bit undecized.
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  Sometimes that kind of worries me just because, you know, I
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  want everybody to be beat, but a little bit undecized.
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  But like I said, when a school like Miami is hard, after you
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  like, hey man, I got to trust what they do.
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  Yeah. I think, I think it's a good
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  player. Yeah, Weights.
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  Definitely. And the weight is there.
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  I think, you know, 62 probably not quite as long as maybe you
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  want at ADN, but I mean, you know, coming in at 2:40, I don't
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  know if that's a true 240. Obviously that's that's kind of
• 24:14
  a TBD at this point, but it probably isn't that far off
• 24:19
  right. So you're probably at least
• 24:20
  talking 2:30, which is, you know, decent, decent weight for
• 24:25
  somebody at, you know, at six two coming in playing DN, you
• 24:28
  know, looking at the tape, you know, I like to get off.
• 24:30
  He he, he played with his hand in the dirt some, he played
• 24:33
  standing up some. So he's got some of that
• 24:34
  versatility to be able to do that.
• 24:38
  You know, just like you said, Tally looking at somebody that
• 24:42
  had the eye of Miami pretty heavy.
• 24:44
  Yeah, that's going to be somebody that you want to have
• 24:46
  in your in your building and and getting that commit, you know,
• 24:50
  early in the cycle. I think it's going to be good.
• 24:52
  Obviously we got a a handful of other big time defensive line
• 24:58
  players that we sit pretty good with.
• 25:03
  And I think to your point tally, I think this is going to be a
• 25:05
  very defensive line focused class.
• 25:10
  I think we'll still see us take probably, you know, about 5
• 25:14
  offensive lineman. I think that's about what you
• 25:16
  need to take just about every cycle, four or five at least.
• 25:19
  And I so I think you're still going to see that this cycle.
• 25:22
  But I think looking at where our depths sits on the defensive
• 25:26
  line and kind of what we need to do to backfill there, I think
• 25:31
  that's why you're going to see a big focus in this class on
• 25:35
  defensive line, especially that edge position.
• 25:38
  Yeah. And and we talked about, we're
• 25:40
  asked if the two 40s legit. I think the two 40s legit, all
• 25:43
  the recruiting sites have him around 2:40, a couple of them
• 25:47
  have him at 63. So maybe he's like the one of
• 25:50
  those two and three 4262 and three quarter guys 240.
• 25:54
  So I think the weight's legit. Now, obviously.
• 25:56
  Can that change? Yeah, because people's body
• 25:58
  change. Like if he grows to 6/4, he
• 26:00
  ain't going to weigh 240 lbs anymore.
• 26:02
  He probably going to weigh 2:30. But that gives you more mass or
• 26:05
  more height to work for the mask on.
• 26:08
  So very good pick up there one tomorrow.
• 26:13
  We are in the hunt for. Keep an eye on this one because
• 26:18
  Joseph Buchanan up out of McDonough, 4 star, top 20D
• 26:25
  lineman, top five player in the state, top 200 player
• 26:28
  nationally. That kids a stud and no crystal
• 26:32
  balls yet. Nobody knows what he's going to
• 26:34
  do, but by all indications, we've been hot on him.
• 26:44
  He's set to make an official visit in about sometime next
• 26:48
  month, I believe. So that would be Kyle.
• 26:53
  I'm assuming this is one of the guys you have like on your radar
• 26:56
  is one of the big defensive ends left just because of where he
• 27:00
  sits nationally across? Oh yeah, I mean, Chris Whitehead
• 27:04
  out of Virginia is probably the number one guy that you want to
• 27:08
  get. I think he's the number one
• 27:09
  player in Virginia and I can't remember what he said
• 27:11
  nationally. But.
• 27:13
  I think he's right. Around yeah, so any so I mean,
• 27:16
  that's that's the kid that you want.
• 27:18
  Of course, you know, Virginia kid that can play, but Buchanan
• 27:24
  out of Maryland is he's pretty highly ranked man, and he's got
• 27:29
  you can go watch his film. You can see why it's highly
• 27:31
  ranked. You know, got great size when
• 27:33
  you talk about, you know, 64260 and he's saying he's a he's a
• 27:42
  edge. He's not a because I think some
• 27:45
  one of the sites said interior lineman and he goes on there and
• 27:49
  says I'm not an interior lineman.
• 27:51
  He may get moved to that, but what he's playing now he's
• 27:55
  saying he's a defensive end. So I mean at that size, that's a
• 28:01
  little different man to be and and to move how he moves.
• 28:04
  So if you're going to watch him like he's the legit, he's a
• 28:07
  legit player man. And it's, it's crazy because
• 28:11
  everybody knows like that James Franklin can recruit.
• 28:14
  That's not I, I don't think that no fan that watches football
• 28:19
  says, well, he's going to have trouble recruiting.
• 28:21
  But in the, the way that he's getting people to just like,
• 28:26
  it's not like, Oh, we on this kid and it's taking months.
• 28:29
  And then we're, it's like, you never hear about these players.
• 28:33
  And then next thing you know, it's like, oh, they got to
• 28:35
  recruit. I mean they have a a commitment
• 28:37
  date coming. Back in a week.
• 28:39
  You know, so it's, it's quick. So whatever he's selling, man.
• 28:43
  And we, you know, I had some boots on the ground.
• 28:45
  I had some eyes up there in Blacksburg, just to let you all
• 28:48
  know, because I got my ears to the street.
• 28:53
  The stuff that he says, because sometimes I, I know people say
• 28:58
  he says the same thing in every, in every, you know, interview
• 29:02
  that he's given. But when he says the big thing
• 29:06
  that stood out to some people that I had up there, when he
• 29:09
  says it should look big time, feel big time, smell big time,
• 29:14
  they said that's what it is. You know, people who were in
• 29:18
  meetings, in the practice, in, you know what I'm saying, the
• 29:23
  facility, the workouts, I mean, right at Ground Zero, they said
• 29:30
  it is no nonsense situation going on up there right now, you
• 29:36
  know, and everything is is big time.
• 29:38
  Let me tell you something else, Curtis.
• 29:39
  Let me tell you what I like. You tell me.
• 29:41
  What a lot of people had a problem with and that cartoon
• 29:44
  guy, whatever his name is, I don't want to give him too much
• 29:47
  credit because I don't want to give him no kind of shine on our
• 29:50
  show. But he's an idiot.
• 29:52
  So it's more people that kind of go with that saying that he
• 29:57
  says, they say, well, oh, James Franklin wants to make it about
• 29:59
  him. If you go somewhere and it's a
• 30:04
  shit hole when you want to make it better, you know what I'm
• 30:08
  saying? So when, when when James
• 30:10
  Franklin said we had stuff on the walls that was from 2
• 30:14
  coaches ago, yeah, that shit should have been down.
• 30:18
  Like, I mean, come on man. Like why am I going to have a
• 30:21
  picture of Justin Fuente on the wall or anything he said when he
• 30:26
  clearly didn't want to be in Virginia, You know what I'm
• 30:29
  saying? Like he didn't, he didn't do
• 30:33
  nothing he'll do. He deserves to have no kind of
• 30:36
  place on the wall or statue or anything like that.
• 30:40
  Now, if he were to say it, are we going to remove everything?
• 30:42
  Frank Beemo Yeah, we're going to do some talking about that.
• 30:46
  But when he's talking about these other coaches that have
• 30:48
  come pry Fuente, which pry still around.
• 30:53
  So you going to have some of his philosophy things that he say
• 30:56
  and do are going to be around. But yeah, you have to make it
• 31:01
  about you because it's your philosophy.
• 31:03
  You're the coach, you are the basic, you're the face of the
• 31:08
  program. So why wouldn't you want it to
• 31:11
  be changed and want it to go the way that you want it to go?
• 31:14
  Because when the when the when the ALS rack up, it's on you.
• 31:19
  Every time we was talking about things that was going on in a
• 31:22
  game last year or the last 3-4 years and somebody goes, oh,
• 31:26
  it's the I said it's Pry. It is him.
• 31:29
  He's the head coach. That's where it's stopped,
• 31:32
  right, Because who can who can make changes?
• 31:36
  The head coach can say don't play that guy, play that guy.
• 31:39
  Eventually it's it's the it's the old Harry Truman line, right
• 31:41
  Brian, it's true the buck stops here because I'm getting paid
• 31:48
  more than anybody right now in the state of Virginia got wise
• 31:52
  James Franklin not a half $1,000,000.
• 31:54
  So, yeah, but class is off to a good start tomorrow would be
• 32:00
  nice. Whitehead would be unbelievable.
• 32:02
  Just just an FYI if you wondering about Chris Wrighthead
• 32:05
  for those here in in Richmond, he is down at LC Byrd.
• 32:09
  He is the number one player in Virginia, the number.
• 32:13
  He is a five star composite. He is a top five edge guy,
• 32:18
  basically a top 25 national player.
• 32:20
  We ain't seen the likes of that Joe macho was O 8 right macho,
• 32:27
  macho. So there you go no Kim before
• 32:30
  Kim before was like 40th player in the country.
• 32:33
  We ain't seen many of them all right, let's roll on and let's
• 32:36
  get in the spring game and I'm going to go on my rant real
• 32:39
  quick here, because y'all know I have to.
• 32:42
  We don't know what the format we don't we you know give me give
• 32:46
  me loaded up here. We don't know what the spring
• 32:48
  game format is yet. Apparently we're going to get
• 32:52
  prestage tomorrow and hopefully we find out that it's the right
• 32:58
  way. So Coach Franklin, I know you're
• 33:00
  in your office because you're a workaholic.
• 33:02
  You probably, you probably went home for dinner for about an
• 33:04
  hour on that with the wife, drove back over to Merriman.
• 33:09
  Please, please, please can we make the football game Saturday
• 33:14
  in the format? Beat offense versus defense, all
• 33:18
  of all the offense on one side, all the defense on the other.
• 33:21
  Mix and match the twos versus the ones, the walk ONS versus
• 33:25
  the walk ONS, the ones versus the walk ONS, just so we can see
• 33:28
  how ugly it'll get. Because what has killed me in
• 33:31
  the last decade is watching a spring game where it's like
• 33:34
  we're going to split the roster up.
• 33:37
  We ain't there yet to where we can split the roster up.
• 33:41
  I'd like to see us one day be there, but when that roster gets
• 33:45
  dropped tomorrow, and if it is the format I think it's going to
• 33:49
  be, which is going to make me sad, mad, but that is what it
• 33:51
  is. We going to sit here and be like
• 33:55
  whoever got Ethan Grotmeyer and whoever's got three good lineman
• 33:58
  is going to win the game. Candidly, don't matter because
• 34:02
  that's the way it's been the last half decade.
• 34:05
  If you got the quarterback and you got a good lineman because
• 34:08
  the running backs ain't gonna play that much.
• 34:10
  So please, if you haven't read it all out yet, go offense
• 34:15
  versus defense. You can mix it up.
• 34:17
  You can keep guys healthier. All right, I know where Curtis
• 34:23
  stands and and I'm going to, I'm going to be the, you know, you
• 34:28
  can call me a fence sitter if you want to.
• 34:29
  I I've got my foot in both camps on this one and I'll tell you
• 34:34
  why. If you're looking, if you're
• 34:38
  like us and you want to watch a game and figure out the depth
• 34:41
  chart and figure out how pieces are looking when they play
• 34:44
  together and figure out all those things that potentially
• 34:49
  could matter in the fall, then offense versus defense is what
• 34:53
  you want to see. If you want to go to the spring
• 34:57
  game and watch a form of football that looks more like a
• 35:04
  game, then you want to split roster.
• 35:07
  And for the most part, with this being an exhibition with us
• 35:12
  trying to pack lane, I've got a feeling they're going to lean
• 35:15
  towards more of that split roster format where it's more of
• 35:19
  a traditional game flow that your average casual fan is
• 35:25
  looking to experience. And I don't think that's
• 35:28
  necessarily a bad thing, but I do think that it will make it
• 35:33
  harder for people like us to get a real evaluation of how much
• 35:40
  this roster has improved at the moment with the pieces that we
• 35:44
  brought in with Franklin at the head of this thing.
• 35:48
  Because you're you know, you're going to get vanilla scripts
• 35:50
  from Pry. You know you can get vanilla
• 35:54
  scripts from how? Man, we better get some
• 35:56
  chocolate and caramel scripts and pry, you know long enough.
• 36:00
  Don't be hiding shit. You better be doing something,
• 36:04
  Brent. But but I'll put vanilla on top
• 36:06
  of vanilla for you Tally, just so you did MAD.
• 36:09
  I, I, I, I, I just want to see a better product than we saw last
• 36:13
  year. And like, there, there's, there
• 36:15
  was a whole lot of reasons that last year's spring game sucked.
• 36:19
  Number one was the weather #1 I mean the weather it was.
• 36:23
  It was 40° with a 30° wind chill at kickoff.
• 36:27
  This year. That's what you want.
• 36:30
  God, this year Tyler, I wish me and you could go bring your.
• 36:34
  Sunscreen. Bring your sunscreen.
• 36:37
  Saturday in Blacksburg is going to be like 85°.
• 36:42
  The rain is coming in overnight, so probably as the day goes on,
• 36:46
  it's probably going to cool down a little bit and feel really
• 36:49
  nice. Sunny.
• 36:52
  Oh man, I don't even know what to say.
• 36:55
  But I mean, but so other things that were wrong with the spring
• 36:58
  game last year, you had a basically a lame duck head
• 37:01
  coach. So like the enthusiasm of what
• 37:04
  they wanted to see wasn't there. So you weren't going to get the
• 37:06
  crowds that you normally get. Add in the weather, you got even
• 37:09
  less crowds and I think you would have gotten with with good
• 37:12
  weather. That's a fairpoint, Phil, That's
• 37:17
  a fairpoint. And I and I think that's that
• 37:18
  that goes that goes without saying.
• 37:21
  But the the third thing is that you had your number one and #2
• 37:25
  quarterbacks out, You had a couple lineman banged up and you
• 37:29
  split the rosters. And now you've got red shirt
• 37:33
  freshman and true freshman quarterbacks running this thing
• 37:39
  behind a split offensive line. And they're still at the point
• 37:45
  where they're processing the offense because again, it was a
• 37:48
  new install offense with these freshmen and true freshmen.
• 37:52
  So all these things blending together created an absolute
• 37:56
  shit show of a game to watch. And I was, I was, I was well
• 38:00
  into the cups at that point. So that made it a little bit
• 38:04
  more palatable for me. But I can, I can't imagine
• 38:09
  watching that thing sober. Y'all y'all want to go see
• 38:12
  something funny and Tal I don't know if you watched it the live
• 38:16
  show Brian did with like Pete me I mean that y'all are all
• 38:20
  fucking hammered Well nobody's sober up there the.
• 38:23
  Problem was me and me and Pete left the the game like it was
• 38:27
  like 445 minutes left in the fourth quarter.
• 38:30
  We were like, we're getting out of here, we're going to TOTS,
• 38:32
  We're getting a rail before we go over to Maroon Door.
• 38:35
  So get a rail at Maroon Door, walk around, go over to or get a
• 38:39
  rail of TOTS, go to Maroon Door. I start, I hit I had two gin and
• 38:43
  tonics after the rail before we even started that stream.
• 38:47
  So that gives you a a good barometer of kind of where I was
• 38:50
  sitting at that point in time. Needless to say, at the middle
• 38:59
  of that stream my my wife held up a little sign on a note paper
• 39:04
  to say you're saying fuck a lot. So, so tally, so tally any, any
• 39:12
  feelings on the format of the game or is that something you're
• 39:15
  going to talk on later? You can hold together.
• 39:22
  You there tally check check. I'm pretty sure I'm lagging.
• 39:33
  You're lagging, but that's fine. Lagging is OK as long as we get.
• 39:36
  I got you. I think.
• 39:42
  It's a two way lag. I think it's a two way lag.
• 39:53
  We lost him, but anyway, we'll we'll get him back in just a
• 39:57
  second here as we get into kind of the spring game preview,
• 39:59
  three things that we're looking at thinking about as we have the
• 40:04
  game on Saturday, obviously Brian heading down.
• 40:08
  Brian, while Tally's getting back up here, give him a give
• 40:10
  him a shameless plug of where you're going to be pregame and
• 40:13
  who you going to be with. Shameless plug.
• 40:15
  Here we go. All right, I'll get Tally back.
• 40:19
  Oh, you got Tally back in there? We.
• 40:20
  Go, I got him some. Shame.
• 40:21
  Shameless plug for this weekend, Saturday spring game day.
• 40:27
  Come to Chicken Hill. Top part of the hill, back, back
• 40:31
  part of the parking lot there. Right on the right on the very
• 40:33
  top there, right on the little grassy curtain where the it's
• 40:37
  nice and flat there. We're going to be set up noon,
• 40:41
  noon. We're we're we're going live.
• 40:43
  It's me, PB, Sam from too deep as well.
• 40:48
  And Dan Pulse from Tales from the Terror Domes are going to be
• 40:50
  a couple other fun guests here. They're popping in with us.
• 40:54
  But we're going to do about an hour pregame show right there at
• 40:57
  noon. There's going to be tailgate so
• 41:00
  full tailgate spread our man Steven and Nate are are hosting
• 41:05
  this thing, so there's going to be some really good food.
• 41:07
  They got some pulled pork, got some sauces, got some wings, got
• 41:11
  got some fun sides that they're bringing tunes will be going.
• 41:14
  So come check that out. There's going to be a Venmo
• 41:18
  there. If if y'all want to throw throw
• 41:20
  a few bones Stevens way. He's he's he's pulling all this
• 41:23
  food and stuff together for this event for us.
• 41:26
  So and anything y'all can contribute is is appreciated is
• 41:30
  going to be BYOB. There will be a bourbon table
• 41:32
  for some sampling. But aside from that BBYOB.
• 41:36
  So come see us. It's going to be a good time.
• 41:41
  Man, I'm pissed I ain't going to be there.
• 41:45
  And we all, and we. All I was like, come on, Tally,
• 41:48
  let's get up here, man, let's get up here.
• 41:50
  And so much going on. Listen, anybody in the chat, if
• 41:54
  you don't have kids, keep it that way.
• 41:57
  Do not have kids. The worst thing you can do with
• 42:01
  your life and your money? You're.
• 42:04
  Going to be a rich. Man or woman and have all your
• 42:08
  time to yourself. If you don't have the kids,
• 42:12
  don't have them. Tally Tally is endorsing the
• 42:17
  DINK lifestyle. Geez.
• 42:19
  School income, no kids. Life, man, don't do it my.
• 42:24
  Son, shut up, Tally. He was going.
• 42:26
  We got to we got to see what's going on with him.
• 42:28
  I got to take him to the doctor tomorrow.
• 42:29
  But he he's got a baseball tournament this weekend, the end
• 42:36
  of the year tournament and then so he'll be Saturday.
• 42:40
  We got game. So I just got roped in and
• 42:43
  couldn't do nothing and I'm sad about it.
• 42:45
  Just to let y'all know. I'm saying I got back-to-back
• 42:48
  games and I am a coach. Yeah.
• 42:52
  For a bunch of for for a bunch of sweet little, sweet little
• 42:56
  pre-K and kindergarten girls. Oh.
• 42:59
  Man. Yeah, they're Hokies, man.
• 43:00
  They're Hokies. They're Hokies.
• 43:03
  There you go. That's all right.
• 43:04
  That's where it needs to know people who are running the
• 43:06
  league. They usually put you on the team
• 43:08
  that you know that, that you don't like the hats.
• 43:11
  But let's get into it. I've been, I kind of mentioned
• 43:14
  from the top of the program, we're going to start that now.
• 43:17
  And obviously as we get into the chat, chat, give us some of the
• 43:22
  things you're looking at on Saturday.
• 43:24
  But we're looking like we kind of me and Tally and Brian, we've
• 43:26
  kind of talked and went back and forth in like 3 things that
• 43:30
  we're looking forward to or looking into for Saturday.
• 43:33
  So Tally, I won't let you lead off because when you hit this,
• 43:36
  I'm like, man, you, you nailed this 100%.
• 43:39
  I mean, main thing just it's a spring game.
• 43:42
  I mean, you can't put much validity into it, but who's
• 43:45
  playing, who's not, who's hurt? That's the one of the main
• 43:49
  things that, you know, I would be paying attention to because
• 43:53
  anybody hurt right now, anybody not playing is not only missing
• 43:56
  reps on a brand new team, you're also missing, you know, some
• 44:00
  camaraderie and things like that.
• 44:04
  A lot of a lot of these kids, it's going to be the first time
• 44:06
  running out of that lane, you know what I'm saying?
• 44:09
  You get the, you know, kind of see how somebody handles that.
• 44:13
  So I will be definitely looking at who's hurt, you know, who's
• 44:17
  playing. And again, Franklin's a brand
• 44:21
  new coach, man. He's not holding spots.
• 44:24
  So if you're hurt and you can't get healthy, you might be ending
• 44:29
  up at Norfolk State. I'm just saying.
• 44:34
  Yeah. That's what I'll.
• 44:35
  Check it out. No, no, not that when you
• 44:37
  brought it up and you know, and I'll hit nine in a second here,
• 44:40
  I'll let Brian kind of follow up, but you're right.
• 44:42
  Who is playing, who's not? Because if you can't go out
• 44:47
  there in the heat of competition, and I know they've
• 44:49
  had scrimmages, y'all, there's been several scrimmages, there's
• 44:51
  practices, but it's like full stadium.
• 44:55
  We're trying to run it like a real game.
• 44:57
  If you can't go out there, it is something to be said.
• 45:01
  Now, clearly, I do think Franklin's a smart enough guy
• 45:05
  that if a key player who's busted their ass all spring,
• 45:08
  that has looked good as Nick, like you ain't playing today.
• 45:12
  But guys who are fighting for the 2D or special teams, you
• 45:16
  better fight through it. Because I mean, I think, I mean,
• 45:21
  Brian's probably going to have his roster list out there, but
• 45:23
  have him being like, I don't see #44 where's 44?
• 45:29
  It better. Not be doing it.
• 45:31
  And I will pull it up before I go into the stadium because we
• 45:34
  all know how that goes, especially if they're going to
• 45:36
  pack, pack this thing which they're trying to do.
• 45:38
  We'll, we'll see how that goes. I definitely think we're going
• 45:41
  to see at least double what we saw last year, but we'll see if
• 45:43
  they can get that thing filled up. 6060 thousand hey.
• 45:47
  Any. Any.
• 45:47
  Any. Feelings on what?
• 45:48
  Tally said. That was one of his things, Ron
• 45:50
  just. Yeah.
• 45:51
  I mean, I think, you know, Tally hit it hit it really well
• 45:54
  because I mean, that's that's the biggest thing you're talking
• 45:56
  about And who's playing matters both right now for us to be able
• 46:02
  to evaluate, but it also matters for like everything going
• 46:05
  forward into the fall because to to to Tally's point, I mean,
• 46:09
  this is you're missing reps in a new offense or new defense.
• 46:14
  I know it's a mostly same defense, but at the same time,
• 46:17
  it's still, you know, there's nuances that prize probably
• 46:21
  going to be put in there that we didn't see last year.
• 46:25
  And then you look at the camaraderie piece and then you
• 46:28
  look at, you know, does this put anybody that isn't able to play,
• 46:33
  even if they are, you know, even if you got them penciled into
• 46:37
  the 2 deep, is this hurting their chances of being that you
• 46:40
  going from second team to starter?
• 46:42
  Is this helping their chances from going, you know, from
• 46:46
  fringe second team up in the, you know, firmly in the second
• 46:49
  team? I think that that's where, you
• 46:51
  know, some of these guys being nicked up, whether it's, you
• 46:53
  know, Terry or Howling. I mean, you know, Terry may be
• 46:55
  going howling. You know, it is definitely out
• 46:57
  all spring. So we know we're not going to
• 46:59
  see him. You know that that's an
• 47:01
  important piece. And when you look at a position
• 47:04
  like the offensive line, obviously that's a big thing
• 47:07
  because you're trying to get your best five out there.
• 47:09
  It's a position that we have been struggling at really going
• 47:12
  back, you know, to the 2021 season.
• 47:15
  I think, you know, 2020 was our last offensive line that you can
• 47:19
  look at and point to and say that's a good offensive line.
• 47:21
  You feel good about that offensive line.
• 47:23
  Everything since then has been kind of downhill and almost
• 47:26
  progressively. So it's almost gotten worse.
• 47:28
  And we can, we can talk about the lack of recruiting the
• 47:32
  position properly and backfilling and having to rely
• 47:35
  on transfers coming into the spring to kind of fill some
• 47:38
  holes and things like that. Like there's, there's been a lot
• 47:41
  of problems with the offensive line, which we've talked about
• 47:43
  ad nauseam. So I'm not going to, you know,
• 47:46
  belabor the point much further than that.
• 47:47
  But it's this is where you can kind of gel and and become a
• 47:53
  unit and get that camaraderie because more than any other
• 47:56
  place on the field, that offensive line needs to work as
• 48:00
  a unit. It's not, it's not players just
• 48:05
  working in tandem within a scheme.
• 48:08
  It is players working literally communicating every snap and
• 48:12
  having to do one job to open up holes or one job to, to to
• 48:17
  protect the quarterback. So that that that is more
• 48:20
  important from a camaraderie standpoint than probably any
• 48:22
  other position group on the field.
• 48:26
  All right, so obviously 1 of Bron's key points here is the
• 48:30
  offensive line play and it's right not having howling there
• 48:33
  we'll. Get there you'll.
• 48:34
  Have to get you're going to have to get what you have one back
• 48:36
  into here in a second. Not getting not having howling
• 48:39
  definitely hurts. Apparently from what I heard the
• 48:47
  the the Terry was a little bang banged up.
• 48:51
  Sound like he's been doing those stuff just banged up.
• 48:55
  But also you heard the conversations about guys like
• 48:58
  Johnny Garrett's been inside some and that's and the honest
• 49:01
  truth is he's OK if he's your swing tackle, if he's just your
• 49:05
  swing guy 3 positions, that's fine.
• 49:09
  But yeah, it kind of correlates with Tally's point with the
• 49:13
  offensive line is the being hurt, not being out there not
• 49:17
  working together. Also goes by my format works
• 49:20
  better because you literally can try every single possible
• 49:24
  combination when they're all on the same team.
• 49:27
  Yeah, I stuck format back in there.
• 49:31
  OK, let me get on mine because Brian went on his offensive line
• 49:34
  rant. I think skill positions.
• 49:38
  I'm interested to see, first of all, the stories coming out
• 49:41
  about Overton. Apparently Overton has been from
• 49:45
  everything we've heard, reporters, tallies inside, folks
• 49:49
  talking to us, other people being on grounds.
• 49:52
  Overton has looked like what the white Victoria years ago said he
• 49:56
  was like. That kid is not a three story.
• 49:59
  That kid is almost a five star. That kid is one of the best
• 50:01
  players in the country, if not the state.
• 50:03
  I want to see him. I want to see Luke Reynolds.
• 50:06
  I want to see how that tight end room shaped out.
• 50:09
  But what caught my ear listening to to Coach Franklin speak in a
• 50:14
  couple interviews I've been watching here and there this
• 50:16
  week is Franklin said aloud. He believes y'all hear me?
• 50:22
  He believes that wide receiver can be a legitimate too deep.
• 50:29
  So from his vantage point right now, he believes that there are
• 50:33
  6 guys that can have significant amount of reps in this offense.
• 50:39
  And obviously we've heard Aiden Green, we've seen some like
• 50:43
  Brody Adams, Keelan Adams pictures, we've heard the
• 50:46
  Keyshawn stuff. I want to see what the skill
• 50:48
  positions look like. And it's not so much the guys I
• 50:51
  know who are coming in proving like Luke, like Jeff, but it's
• 50:55
  the other guys because I don't think he's going to say certain
• 50:58
  things like 2D unless somebody is really impressing him.
• 51:03
  That's the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th guy, yeah.
• 51:07
  Man, you know, we've heard a lot about, you know, somebody that
• 51:11
  that that keeps getting their name mentioned.
• 51:13
  That's kind of like, come on, is Luke Stewie?
• 51:15
  Luke Stewie. Stewie.
• 51:18
  Hey, man. So if if you've got him coming
• 51:21
  on, you got a couple of these other guys that are I think
• 51:24
  finally settling in, whether it's been injuries or a couple
• 51:27
  other things or some of the young guys.
• 51:29
  And you know, you, you pair that with Aiden Green coming back
• 51:32
  good this year. You got obviously Keshawn coming
• 51:35
  in. I think like all, all of these
• 51:37
  different, these different elements, they're going to be,
• 51:44
  you know, Green is the only one that's done it in Blacksburg and
• 51:48
  a lot of these other guys have done it in spurts.
• 51:51
  A lot of these other guys have. You're not really had an
• 51:55
  opportunity. So we've got a lot of youth, at
• 51:57
  least in terms of Blacksburg snaps, right?
• 52:02
  But the talent is there. And I don't think we've ever
• 52:05
  questioned that this is a talented receiver room.
• 52:08
  I think the question was always going to be, is that talent
• 52:10
  going to be realized on the field?
• 52:13
  You know, for one reason or another, that's kind of held it
• 52:15
  back to this point. Yeah.
• 52:19
  Any feelings on the skill position or offensive line room?
• 52:22
  Because that's me and Brian's one of our threes.
• 52:26
  Yeah, it's just kind of go back down to where we started.
• 52:30
  When you talk about health, you know what I'm saying?
• 52:32
  Like we know that they're talented.
• 52:34
  We know that people have the opportunity to be big players,
• 52:38
  but it comes down to can we see them on the field?
• 52:41
  Will we see them on the field? So it just kind of goes back to
• 52:44
  where we started this segment talking about the health of the
• 52:47
  players and what we'll get to see.
• 52:49
  But. I know that, Phil, Phil put this
• 52:53
  in right before you said the word health.
• 52:56
  Literally as you were saying the word health, this, this dropped
• 52:58
  in there. Yeah, he was texting me.
• 53:00
  That's my guy. And Phil, like this man, I'm
• 53:03
  trying to get him to let me start going to basketball games
• 53:05
  with him. I got to go to I got to get up
• 53:07
  there to mom's on the morn. So I got to get my money, right,
• 53:11
  Phil? But I will be hitting you up and
• 53:14
  I'm going to do a full tour. I just need you to have a, you
• 53:17
  know, I don't need no Jason Voorhees out there.
• 53:19
  You know, black people wouldn't like being in the woods that
• 53:21
  much. For real, for real.
• 53:22
  So well need no scary movie type stuff going on out there.
• 53:26
  Them slasher films in the 80s didn't really didn't really do.
• 53:30
  Well, either and you see what I'm saying.
• 53:32
  So yeah, but now man, that's just that's the main thing, like
• 53:36
  I said, just going back to health and and and seeing these
• 53:40
  kids on the on the field. So I'll be excited just to see
• 53:45
  what new numbers we see on the field because we know that the
• 53:50
  talent is there, we know that feels, we know the talent that
• 53:56
  we know the floor has been lifted so we need to see how
• 53:59
  high the ceiling is all. Right.
• 54:01
  So Brian, let's get to your number 2 because that floor,
• 54:05
  that ceiling, those skill players, you, you mentioned me
• 54:10
  and you talked about this the other Thursday sitting in the
• 54:13
  basement having a couple of years after poker about how
• 54:16
  excited you see this guy. Yeah, man, it's got to be the
• 54:19
  grunk show, right? Like I, I feel like this is
• 54:24
  something we haven't really seen in a while, which is a, a
• 54:28
  quarterback that can really spin it has good accuracy,
• 54:33
  understands how to work within the framework of the offense,
• 54:37
  can make all the throws. We haven't really seen that type
• 54:41
  of of talent in Blacksburg in a while.
• 54:44
  So I'm excited to see him go out there and spend a little bit.
• 54:48
  You know, when, when Hal's talking about the offense and,
• 54:51
  and like what the goal is, he keeps saying explosive plays.
• 54:54
  We're we're talking about explosive plays.
• 54:57
  So when you talk about explosive plays, that's going to start
• 55:00
  with being able to open up big holes for your running back, but
• 55:03
  it's also about your quarterback being able to get shots down the
• 55:07
  field or hit receivers when they're open so they can catch
• 55:10
  and run. That's how you make big plays.
• 55:13
  And being accurate and being able to make all the throws,
• 55:16
  that gives you a really good start to creating those
• 55:19
  explosive plays. So I'm excited to see him go out
• 55:21
  there and spin it. And when you talk about a
• 55:23
  quarterback that understands the offense, it's not just just
• 55:28
  making the throws, but it's about knowing where to go with
• 55:31
  the football quickly. And that's one of the things
• 55:33
  that we've struggled with at the quarterback position for years
• 55:37
  now is that even when the line was giving them time, the ball
• 55:43
  wasn't coming out quick enough on a regular basis.
• 55:46
  Or if it was coming out quick, it wasn't always going to where
• 55:48
  it needs to be. And so when you have a
• 55:51
  quarterback that knows what to do and can get rid of the ball
• 55:54
  quickly, that makes everything else look better.
• 55:58
  And if you can stay in front of the sticks, that makes the
• 56:00
  quarterback's job a whole lot better as well.
• 56:03
  So I'm excited to see Grunt go out there and spend it.
• 56:06
  I'm excited to see what this offense is going to look like
• 56:09
  with him kind of pulling the trigger.
• 56:11
  I think it's going to be something that we haven't really
• 56:14
  seen from a passing standpoint, at least going back to Hendon
• 56:20
  and maybe even further than that.
• 56:22
  So I'm looking forward to that aspect.
• 56:24
  And even though I know we're going to get mostly kind of
• 56:26
  Vadilla schemes in the offense, I'm excited to see what they do
• 56:31
  within that framework. As he's finishing his blue
• 56:35
  drink, there anything on Ethan Grunt Meyer?
• 56:39
  He's the guy he took the longest to get into the.
• 56:42
  I mean, I think he was one of the first to commit, but one of
• 56:45
  the last to actually be official.
• 56:49
  So I mean, he's the quarterback, he's the guy that's who
• 56:51
  everybody's coming to see. You got to go.
• 56:54
  Don't matter what he's done anywhere else.
• 56:56
  It don't matter. It matters what you're doing.
• 56:59
  Maroon and orange. So we need to see what he's got.
• 57:02
  We need to see legit quarterback pay.
• 57:06
  Look at Phil, man, Phil. Phil is having a good time
• 57:09
  tonight. Hey man, Phil said.
• 57:11
  Phil said let's start slow. He just want 50% of the passes
• 57:16
  completed. He's stupid.
• 57:20
  He said let's, let's, let's do the little things first and then
• 57:23
  we can get to the big things 100.
• 57:25
  Percent. I'm going to say this real quick
• 57:26
  to kind of close it out and jump over to mine.
• 57:30
  I also want to see what the three backups look like.
• 57:33
  I want to see like, you know, like going back a decade, me and
• 57:40
  Brian, this was when I only had one kid, and me and Brian went
• 57:45
  to the first spring game of the Fuente era and there was a
• 57:49
  noticeable difference between I'm blanking right now.
• 57:57
  Why am I blanking on his name? Quarterback.
• 58:03
  There was a noticeable difference in Gerard and every
• 58:06
  other quarterback. So why?
• 58:09
  And I think Brian and clearly I think with Ethan, we had seen
• 58:12
  Ethan play at Penn State, There's clearly going to be a
• 58:14
  difference. But what I want to see is of
• 58:17
  those three and, and I'll let Brian, even though he's going to
• 58:20
  probably be about 7 or 8IN when he gets to the stadium, I still
• 58:24
  trust his knowledge to see when so and so drops or when so and
• 58:28
  so's arm goes. It's different than the other
• 58:30
  two. That's probably going to be your
• 58:32
  backup. Now for me, my number 2 is
• 58:35
  defensive line. We started with the trenches
• 58:38
  earlier. I'm going to keep them rolling
• 58:39
  right here. I want to see size wise like
• 58:44
  what Mensa looks like because he's up above 3 right now.
• 58:47
  I want to see what Hilson looks like getting off the line.
• 58:51
  And then I want to see if all the hype that has been put
• 58:55
  around Aysen Stevenson, I ain't going to say Kamari Copeland
• 58:59
  because I've seen Kamari Copeland do it.
• 59:00
  I know he can do it. But all the hype that's been
• 59:03
  around Aysen Stevenson, Jason Stevens, is that going to come
• 59:08
  to fruition during a real game or kind of a real game or
• 59:11
  however you want to say it? But the reason I say that is if
• 59:16
  you heard coach Franklin Park last week, he wasn't talking
• 59:19
  about him bending. It sounds like what Shawn
• 59:21
  Stevens has figured out is Ayson Stevens is not a bend guy, but
• 59:25
  he's a hold the edge bull rush guy.
• 59:28
  And, and, and again, you, you start reading more about Spence
• 59:32
  is, is he one of those guys? Is that his goal?
• 59:35
  Whatever type of ass rush you are, that's what you need to do.
• 59:38
  If you 6 foot 4270 and you can't bend the edge with just a little
• 59:42
  bit, go hold the edge for running plays and bull rush guys
• 59:46
  back into the lap of the quarterback.
• 59:48
  Don't do something you can't do because you try to do that.
• 59:51
  It gets bad. But I think there's just so many
• 59:53
  unknown, not unknown variables. But it's just like to what you
• 59:57
  said a little earlier, which I've said kind of all along, the
• 1:00:01
  floor has been raised just because of the sheer amount of
• 1:00:04
  talent with these guys and their size.
• 1:00:07
  So I'm looking forward to just the D line.
• 1:00:10
  I'm just forward to seeing the combinations.
• 1:00:12
  I'm looking forward to tally. We, we, we got a little some
• 1:00:16
  anytime Tally gets on pry. I'm trying to let him, little
• 1:00:26
  man. I mean, I will, I will, I will
• 1:00:27
  say one thing on that because I think, I think you hit, you hit
• 1:00:30
  the nail on the head and I, and I'll make a little bit of a
• 1:00:32
  comparison for my baseball folks.
• 1:00:35
  If you're a pitcher, how many pitches do you really need to be
• 1:00:39
  successful? You need 2 pitches.
• 1:00:43
  You need 2 pitches. That's all you need to be
• 1:00:46
  successful. So if if you are a pass rusher
• 1:00:49
  is very similar, you need to have a go to and then you need
• 1:00:54
  to have some sort of change up. You don't need anything else.
• 1:00:58
  You don't have to go, you don't have to master a spin move.
• 1:01:01
  You don't have to bend the edge, You don't have to bull or you
• 1:01:03
  don't have to have four or five pass rush moves in your arsenal.
• 1:01:08
  You have to have one that you're really good at and then
• 1:01:10
  something to change it up when they start to adapt to what
• 1:01:14
  you're doing. That's really all you need to
• 1:01:16
  do. And if you can do that
• 1:01:18
  successfully and you can hold the edge in the running game,
• 1:01:22
  you're going to probably play a, a pretty good amount of snaps.
• 1:01:25
  Now, obviously we got a couple other guys that that have come
• 1:01:27
  in from the portal that, that might have something to say
• 1:01:30
  about that. But you know, you, you
• 1:01:31
  definitely see Ace and Stevens as being a guy that's going to
• 1:01:34
  be a big factor in the 2 deep for sure.
• 1:01:37
  How? Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  How about if you get in the backfield against South Carolina
• 1:01:42
  and all you got to do is tackle running back and you can't do
• 1:01:45
  that and he runs about 30 yards? That, that's a, that's a move
• 1:01:48
  every DN needs to have. They need to have the get the
• 1:01:50
  quarterback on his ass move. That that's something that
• 1:01:53
  everyone has to have Tally. You you you you threw us Brian's
• 1:02:00
  Brian mentions 2 pitches. If you got a good fastball is
• 1:02:04
  great. You.
• 1:02:05
  Threw a change up with what you say the second thing you're
• 1:02:08
  looking at. I think somebody said it earlier
• 1:02:11
  too in the in the chat. I'd have to go back and look.
• 1:02:13
  Just talking about the, the James Franklin effect, the
• 1:02:16
  production of what he brings. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:02:20
  We've heard a lot about the staff, the players, you know
• 1:02:24
  what he they want to fill the stadium, all of this stuff.
• 1:02:27
  So I'm interested to see what the production looks like, you
• 1:02:31
  know what I'm saying? How they're interacting with
• 1:02:33
  fans. Do they really?
• 1:02:35
  How many people show up? You know, how they put the game
• 1:02:38
  on, just all of the different things that go along with having
• 1:02:44
  this new coach and a high profile coach.
• 1:02:47
  You know, we've not had even, you know, Frank was who he was
• 1:02:51
  at the end of his tenure because everybody knows Frank because of
• 1:02:54
  what he did here. But we haven't had a high
• 1:02:57
  profile coach as Franklin to come in.
• 1:03:01
  You know, Fuente was a hot coach when he came in.
• 1:03:03
  He wasn't as high profile as James Franklin.
• 1:03:06
  So I'm interested to see what the I'm interested to see what
• 1:03:12
  the, what the production looks like, what everything, what, how
• 1:03:16
  they put on everything, you know?
• 1:03:19
  Because he going to throw a water bottle and get mad at
• 1:03:21
  somebody fuck up. Yeah, man, I need to see like
• 1:03:23
  what the what the intensity looks like from coaches, even
• 1:03:27
  though it's a spring game. But again, this is their first
• 1:03:29
  time showing up to a lot of fans because a lot of fans don't
• 1:03:33
  follow stuff like we do, you know, just wasting your time
• 1:03:37
  each day paying attention to practice clips or paying
• 1:03:41
  attention to interviews and stuff like that.
• 1:03:45
  It just like, hey, I can't wait for football season.
• 1:03:47
  I'm show up to the games, which is cool.
• 1:03:49
  That's good. I wish I could do that.
• 1:03:51
  My life would probably be so much better if I would just,
• 1:03:55
  well, we would have to be winning.
• 1:03:57
  But I'm just saying I'll, I'll be interested to see kind of how
• 1:04:00
  he handles all of that stuff because I think that's going to
• 1:04:03
  be a big thing of what we're going to see in the season.
• 1:04:06
  You know what I'm saying? It's going to be how the games
• 1:04:08
  are going to go in the season and how the the staff is going
• 1:04:11
  to be during the season as well. As silly as that sounds, just
• 1:04:15
  like when do they come out to stretch?
• 1:04:16
  What do they do as far as prep before the game?
• 1:04:20
  The other thing when you mention this, my mind immediately went
• 1:04:23
  to because it's going to happen who's in the box for each side
• 1:04:27
  of the ball, like who's up top, who's on the front, who's on the
• 1:04:30
  ground? Because Tahal never being that
• 1:04:34
  primary guy, is he going to stay down because he's always been
• 1:04:38
  down. We know Brent pride if if it
• 1:04:40
  holds you fruition, he's always called games from the field.
• 1:04:44
  He's never been up in the box. Most defensive coordinators
• 1:04:46
  aren't. So that's going to be the other
• 1:04:48
  thing interesting to see is Brian gets his binoculars out,
• 1:04:52
  like across the field. Like there's Brian, Chris, he's
• 1:04:55
  on the ground. Anthony Midget's on the ground.
• 1:04:58
  Where's another new guy this Spence?
• 1:05:01
  Brian's going to be over here pointing out guys.
• 1:05:06
  Wow, That was just a couple weeks ago.
• 1:05:09
  Yeah, that's good. A lot of people down there for
• 1:05:12
  that weekend. LeBron, Anything from what
• 1:05:14
  Tally's mentioning about the production that that like right
• 1:05:18
  now hit you or when he threw that to us a couple days ago
• 1:05:21
  like? Yeah, I think like it's it's the
• 1:05:24
  nuances because I think I think you're going to still have
• 1:05:28
  things that are distinctly Virginia Tech, but like also
• 1:05:32
  what touches is Jane James Franklin putting on it?
• 1:05:35
  You know, are we going to pack Lane?
• 1:05:37
  I think that that's an indication of the James Franklin
• 1:05:40
  effect as well. Like if you're out there packing
• 1:05:42
  a stadium for a spring game, that that tells you the James
• 1:05:47
  Franklin effect, like that right there is telling you the James
• 1:05:51
  Franklin effect. You know, somebody put in here
• 1:05:53
  about the, the parking situation.
• 1:05:56
  If there's a reason I'm showing up to the tailgate at 8 for a,
• 1:05:59
  for a three PM kick for a spring game, like I'm going to be there
• 1:06:04
  early because I'm, I'm anticipating those spots going
• 1:06:07
  pretty quick. Even up on Chicken Hill.
• 1:06:11
  I think it's going to be, you know, you got to operate as this
• 1:06:14
  almost being a true game day atmosphere, even though, you
• 1:06:20
  know, it's general parking, even though it's general admission,
• 1:06:22
  like you got to still operate under the fact that it's going
• 1:06:25
  to feel and look like a game day experience.
• 1:06:29
  And I think, you know, when we look at the production part of
• 1:06:32
  it, what's going to be different?
• 1:06:35
  Are we going to, are we, are we going to like, does this go all
• 1:06:37
  the way up to the music that's played in the stadium during the
• 1:06:42
  music that's played during warmups?
• 1:06:44
  Like I'm interested to see those aspects as well.
• 1:06:49
  And and that that'll not necessarily tell me things are
• 1:06:54
  different, but it it I think it's certainly an indicator of
• 1:06:57
  this is James Franklin's show, not the athletic department show
• 1:07:01
  with the head coach is. That true?
• 1:07:05
  It's 100% true. Like all that stuff, like all
• 1:07:09
  the stuff that happens Saturday, it's for I think for a lot of
• 1:07:15
  us, it's like how many people should because if you say 50,000
• 1:07:18
  should if it, if they pack out of 65, that would be great.
• 1:07:24
  But like what you said, Brian, and tell you mentioned it
• 1:07:27
  earlier about like when we're talking about the old kind of
• 1:07:29
  regime moving out, finally putting you guys in here, What
• 1:07:32
  is the music like? Like, you know, the the question
• 1:07:36
  is, I know Brian, you're hip, so you might know, but we'll we'll
• 1:07:40
  do you think that you are, you are, you know, you know music.
• 1:07:44
  But what I'm saying is are there going to be songs people have
• 1:07:47
  never heard? But the kids in North End zone
• 1:07:51
  and all over the place and the young people are going to be
• 1:07:53
  jacked about. The players will be jacked
• 1:07:54
  about. That's the stuff Tally's talking
• 1:07:56
  about and it's going to be really interesting.
• 1:08:01
  All right, last thing, third piece.
• 1:08:03
  I'm going to start off on this one because it's been kind of
• 1:08:06
  we, we, we discussed safety room a lot and now we just keep
• 1:08:10
  getting these mentions of well knowledge.
• 1:08:13
  Harold was playing some safety, IBM was playing some safety.
• 1:08:16
  So and so was playing Kenny Woosley was playing some safety.
• 1:08:19
  Look at that right on time. I see, but it's your time.
• 1:08:22
  We're seeing guys playing inside and out.
• 1:08:25
  I'm interested to see that rotation.
• 1:08:27
  I'm interested and I know it's not all going to be laid out
• 1:08:30
  like a real game, but I want to see who from the cornerback room
• 1:08:35
  goes out, who from that room goes inside and out, who goes
• 1:08:39
  back to safety? Because we we talked about the
• 1:08:44
  safety room was an issue. They didn't get anybody.
• 1:08:48
  But with some of these guys they brought in and other guys on the
• 1:08:52
  in the roster already. Is that why they didn't?
• 1:08:55
  It's just like you know what, we we got 3-4 guys who can easily
• 1:08:59
  go back and play a strong safety.
• 1:09:01
  You know, we can easily get in the nickel package and they can
• 1:09:03
  be that we can go to a three look and these guys can do that.
• 1:09:07
  So I'm interested to see that rotation from an aspect of is
• 1:09:12
  that why we didn't recruit safeties?
• 1:09:15
  Yeah. I'm I'm interested in in seeing
• 1:09:17
  that as well because you know, everything that we're hearing,
• 1:09:21
  it sounds like prize going to have elements of the defense
• 1:09:27
  that was ran last year, at least from a some safety look.
• 1:09:31
  It's not going to be his traditional 43 look.
• 1:09:34
  It's going to be more of a, of a of a hybrid potentially, you
• 1:09:37
  know, three safety look, but it's still going to be, I think
• 1:09:42
  the elements of of what he did at Penn State are still going to
• 1:09:46
  be there. So that that safety play is
• 1:09:50
  important that that rotation. I think Curtis, you mentioned,
• 1:09:52
  you know, corner. Corner has been, you know, we
• 1:09:55
  talked about it last year. Corner was probably the second
• 1:09:59
  weakest position for us last year outside of offensive line.
• 1:10:05
  You know, some of that had to do with some some portal jumps
• 1:10:08
  after pry was let go and someone had to do with a lot of other
• 1:10:11
  factors. But your corner was a pretty
• 1:10:14
  weak position for us last year. And when you combine that with
• 1:10:19
  inconsistent pass rush, inability to get quarter on the
• 1:10:22
  quarterbacks on the ground and a cornerback room that was
• 1:10:26
  somewhat in disarray, that was a bad combination last year.
• 1:10:29
  And I feel like that's been shored up this year.
• 1:10:34
  I'll let Tally jump in if he's got anything before I go with my
• 1:10:36
  next my next one here. No, man, I mean, look at Robbie.
• 1:10:43
  Hey, you know what I want to say, don't you, Curtis?
• 1:10:49
  You can thank, you can thank Chris Lester for the for the
• 1:10:52
  IBM. Hey, all I'm going to say is
• 1:10:55
  Chris, don't let it happen, buddy.
• 1:10:59
  Don't we want it to happen? But Chris, when you watch this,
• 1:11:03
  don't let it happen, my friend. I just got thrown off.
• 1:11:06
  Thanks, Robin. Thanks.
• 1:11:08
  Robin, just do the curveball. To you, Yeah.
• 1:11:10
  It just hit me under the curveball.
• 1:11:11
  I don't even know what I'm, what I'm thinking about.
• 1:11:13
  Maybe. I'm talking about corners and
• 1:11:14
  safeties. Corners and safeties, man, I'll
• 1:11:19
  be him. I'll be him, man.
• 1:11:20
  We need to see what he got. We need to see what he got this
• 1:11:24
  year, which I again going back to those rooms.
• 1:11:28
  It is it Curtis was hitting me up whenever all the, you know,
• 1:11:33
  transfer portal and everything was going on like when you take
• 1:11:36
  no safeties. What's going on?
• 1:11:38
  So, Rob. Was really mad about it.
• 1:11:40
  Rob kept screaming. We got a spot.
• 1:11:42
  Yeah, yeah. Good woman.
• 1:11:43
  What are we doing here? You know what I'm saying?
• 1:11:45
  So I am interested to see like what kind of moving around
• 1:11:49
  they're doing because there's a lot of talent on the back end.
• 1:11:53
  It's just young. But who takes that step to get
• 1:11:58
  on the field? You know, this is the first step
• 1:12:01
  that we see somebody take a step to be like, OK, well, maybe we
• 1:12:05
  see him get on the field because you started to see certain
• 1:12:07
  stuff, you know, in past spring games at positions like that.
• 1:12:12
  Even in the spring game, you could see like, Josh Clark, you
• 1:12:15
  know, was a little bit more developed than some of the other
• 1:12:18
  people that came in with him. Then he gets hurt.
• 1:12:21
  So yeah, man, I'm excited. I'm excited just to just to see
• 1:12:29
  who steps on the field and ain't got a what's the hurt jersey
• 1:12:31
  Brian? What is it blue or yellow?
• 1:12:33
  Red. Yeah, blue who don't got no blue
• 1:12:36
  jerseys on. That's what we need to see all.
• 1:12:39
  Right, Brian, I know you got. A a yeah, I'll jump in next
• 1:12:47
  because you know the one. Yeah, this is kind of a little
• 1:12:49
  bit of a of a playoff of off of Curtis's a little bit.
• 1:12:54
  And you know, to to another point, you know, we're we're
• 1:12:59
  going to talk about a little bit yet another one and you want to
• 1:13:02
  see the secondary, you want to see linebacker.
• 1:13:04
  So we'll talk about linebacker in in safety here in particular
• 1:13:07
  and kind of the interplay between those positions because
• 1:13:11
  you know, when you talk about a, you know, potentially A3 safety,
• 1:13:16
  look, you talk about linebacker play, there's going to be a lot
• 1:13:20
  of interplay between safety and linebacker, lot of run respond,
• 1:13:26
  run support responsibility in there.
• 1:13:28
  So I'm interested to see how that works because that's
• 1:13:31
  definitely been something that we have struggled with the last
• 1:13:34
  few years is, you know, we had this big run where the
• 1:13:38
  linebackers weren't getting getting the right gap.
• 1:13:41
  We had some these are some hanging fit situations with some
• 1:13:45
  of those those players coming up in in run support there.
• 1:13:49
  And there was a lot of big plays, big run plays that kind
• 1:13:54
  of came off of that. And and that was a that was a
• 1:13:57
  pretty big problem. Some I'm interested to see with
• 1:14:02
  you, a mostly veteran linebacker room, even though it's still a
• 1:14:06
  little young and some spots there in a in a somewhat young
• 1:14:10
  safety room, with the exception of of Q Reddish there.
• 1:14:14
  I think, you know, you look at that.
• 1:14:15
  I want to see how that works. Is that looking a lot better
• 1:14:20
  than what we've seen kind of the last three seasons?
• 1:14:25
  Yeah, it it it will be interesting to see how they work
• 1:14:28
  together, what that room just looks like in general because
• 1:14:31
  of, you know, prize the coach now.
• 1:14:33
  I mean, So what you want to say 0 excuses?
• 1:14:37
  It is yours right now. All right, Tally, I know you got
• 1:14:43
  one more thing. Tally's one big last thing.
• 1:14:49
  Well, I don't know how I feel about that.
• 1:14:54
  Yeah. No comment.
• 1:14:56
  No comment on that when you return.
• 1:14:58
  We had a very, we, we were number one in returning
• 1:15:00
  production two years ago. When we saw how that worked out,
• 1:15:04
  immediately Vanderbilt kicked us in the ass and that returning
• 1:15:08
  production didn't matter so much anymore.
• 1:15:10
  So I, I think it's something to, to look at as you've got guys
• 1:15:16
  that have done it that have a lot of snaps.
• 1:15:19
  So you, you, you get it from that perspective.
• 1:15:23
  And you're hoping that Franklin and all the other guys on the
• 1:15:26
  staff are leveling that up because while the returning
• 1:15:31
  production is good, a lot of it wasn't up to the level that we
• 1:15:35
  needed to win last year. So if they're not leveling up or
• 1:15:38
  we don't have guys that are coming in or challenging below
• 1:15:41
  them to make them better or jumping them on the depth chart,
• 1:15:45
  then that returning production doesn't matter quite as much.
• 1:15:49
  What I will say a little bit different than what we've had in
• 1:15:51
  the past, which we all noticed, we got to go real deep into it.
• 1:15:56
  You got Watchmen watching the Watchmen now, you know what I'm
• 1:15:59
  saying. You got offensive line coach,
• 1:16:02
  assistant, offensive line coach, assistant to the assistant in
• 1:16:07
  the weight room. You got each group has a coach
• 1:16:14
  watching them. It's not one guy, you know what
• 1:16:17
  I'm saying? So that I think that's going to
• 1:16:19
  play the staff additions is going to play a big role in what
• 1:16:25
  the team can do because you're going to have more eyes on
• 1:16:29
  certain groups and they got an answer to more people.
• 1:16:33
  You know, this guy's got to answer this guy.
• 1:16:34
  This guy's got to answer checks and balance system.
• 1:16:37
  So I think you're going to see more guys like, hey, he ain't
• 1:16:39
  getting it done. What's going on with him?
• 1:16:42
  He say his foot hurt. OK, go with the next guy.
• 1:16:44
  You know what I'm saying? I think you'll see more of that
• 1:16:46
  stuff. So I think the returning
• 1:16:48
  production thing will help this year because you'll have a staff
• 1:16:54
  that's more attentive than prize staff.
• 1:16:58
  But back to what Curtis asked just with my my final point to
• 1:17:05
  make on the spring game kind of puts a bow on everything for me
• 1:17:09
  is the optics of the spring game and the residual of what you get
• 1:17:13
  from that. Because what is the spring game
• 1:17:17
  like? What, what, why do you have a
• 1:17:19
  spring game? You, you, you want to, you want
• 1:17:22
  to evaluate where your team is. You want to you just got married
• 1:17:27
  and you're throwing a dinner party.
• 1:17:28
  You just got married and moved into a new house and you're
• 1:17:30
  throwing a dinner party. You want to show off your house,
• 1:17:33
  show off your wife or husband, whatever you decided to marry at
• 1:17:36
  that point, we don't judge. So now you're showing that off
• 1:17:42
  and you want everybody to perceive it in a in a in the the
• 1:17:45
  right fashion. So what kind of recruits are
• 1:17:48
  going to be at this game? What caliber recruits are going
• 1:17:52
  to be at this game? What kind of recruits do you get
• 1:17:56
  to commit? Because they came to this game
• 1:17:58
  and seen the atmosphere, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:18:00
  What kind of atmosphere will the fans have?
• 1:18:04
  Are they down on the program? Are they feeling good about the
• 1:18:08
  new regime? I'm going to be interested to
• 1:18:11
  see the residuals of what that game brings more than like the
• 1:18:15
  results of what happens on the field.
• 1:18:18
  Because we know none of that really matters, but what really
• 1:18:22
  matters is the things that we can see if Brian comes back or
• 1:18:26
  next week, shameless plug when y'all call in because we will be
• 1:18:30
  having a call in show after the game next week when y'all call
• 1:18:34
  in and tell me and Curtis about how great it was and the
• 1:18:38
  atmosphere was electric and. Y'all rubbing it in like Brian's
• 1:18:41
  going to be. Yeah, that's what, that's what I
• 1:18:44
  want to know. That's what I want to know.
• 1:18:46
  I want to know what is the vibe, You know what I'm saying?
• 1:18:49
  That kind of sounds kiddish, but what is the vibe that you got
• 1:18:54
  when you was at the game? Because that's what this is
• 1:18:58
  about. That's what Franklin's been
• 1:19:01
  pumping, that he wants this thing sold out.
• 1:19:04
  Why do you want it sold out? You don't want you don't want it
• 1:19:07
  sold out to to show some shit, right?
• 1:19:10
  You know what I'm saying? So I want to know what the vibes
• 1:19:14
  is going to be. I want to know what the residual
• 1:19:16
  is going to show up. Like how many commits can we get
• 1:19:18
  from that? How many recruits are going to
• 1:19:20
  show up? Where are they coming from?
• 1:19:22
  So we got a lot riding on it for a spring game for us.
• 1:19:26
  We got a lot riding on. And if we know anything about
• 1:19:28
  James Franklin, he is going to bring media to him.
• 1:19:32
  You damn it. There's going to be some
• 1:19:35
  national people going to be covering it.
• 1:19:37
  They're going to want to see what Virginia Tech looks like.
• 1:19:39
  They're going to see all James Franklin's first time running
• 1:19:42
  out to in a Sandman. So yes, Robbie, it will be
• 1:19:46
  televised. Curtis, what you said was it,
• 1:19:49
  it's. Going to be ACC Extra Network,
• 1:19:52
  ACCXN, so if you've got Hulu or you got ESPN out, it'll be there
• 1:19:57
  at 3:00. Look who is joining us.
• 1:20:00
  From the West Coast. They said Nova.
• 1:20:02
  I was going. To.
• 1:20:06
  Put that up there too, because we we.
• 1:20:09
  We got to talk about it, man, because I still in tally, you
• 1:20:14
  could probably talk like you've got the city of Nashville.
• 1:20:17
  That's like one of the best cities probably in the country
• 1:20:21
  for like going out and celebrate something and you get, you know,
• 1:20:27
  a a lovely night before that. Everybody's high, everybody's
• 1:20:30
  doing their thing, everybody's excited for the season.
• 1:20:33
  And then you go and watch that three hours stomach ache and
• 1:20:36
  it's enough to not even want to like you got all this stuff at
• 1:20:39
  your disposal. You're like, I don't even feel
• 1:20:40
  like going out and doing anything.
• 1:20:42
  Let's go back to, all right, Brian, since you want to do this
• 1:20:45
  to me. We didn't have to do this, but
• 1:20:46
  that's what you want to do, Grace, and you want to talk
• 1:20:50
  about that. So let's go back and talk about
• 1:20:52
  it. Like you said, great night out.
• 1:20:56
  Yeah, yeah, great night out. You know, you go out, have some
• 1:21:01
  drinks, chill with your people, take some pictures.
• 1:21:04
  I have people downtown Nashville hollering them.
• 1:21:07
  Hey, Tally, what's up, man? Where's Brian?
• 1:21:09
  Where's Curtis? You know, we got people all over
• 1:21:12
  that watch the show. I'm getting to meet.
• 1:21:15
  Cool night out, man, great night out.
• 1:21:17
  I was by myself. My wife ended up getting COVID
• 1:21:20
  and couldn't go with me. So I was by myself, had the
• 1:21:23
  hotel room by myself. I was in there sleeping naked,
• 1:21:25
  snoring, all of that good stuff, You know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:28
  Had a great night, right? You go to the game, tailgate,
• 1:21:33
  great, everybody's together. We still taking pictures, high
• 1:21:36
  five and oh man, we going to put the world on notice.
• 1:21:38
  Beat this SEC team. It's going to be great.
• 1:21:42
  Half the stadium is under construction.
• 1:21:46
  You can't go around certain ways.
• 1:21:47
  You got to go the other way, which was some BS.
• 1:21:51
  You get in the game and it's like 1000°.
• 1:21:55
  I'm pretty sure somebody had a heat stroke.
• 1:21:59
  Like somebody walked a couple people walking to the car.
• 1:22:02
  So we got people having heat strokes.
• 1:22:06
  Not only did we lose the game, we were getting beat and I was
• 1:22:11
  like, OK, well, it's over. You know, again, we laid an egg.
• 1:22:15
  No, no, no, no, no. We wanted to come back and hang
• 1:22:19
  around and make us think we can win.
• 1:22:22
  You know, we can feel like we got an opportunity to to win
• 1:22:25
  this game. And then what do we do?
• 1:22:28
  And true, the penny tech fashion, we lose a heartbreaker
• 1:22:32
  in overtime. In overtime, that's what
• 1:22:36
  happened in in Nashville. Like Brian said, one of the
• 1:22:42
  greatest cities in America to go out and have a good time.
• 1:22:46
  Who want to go out after that? I didn't want to go out.
• 1:22:50
  I met Chris. I was like, Chris, I don't
• 1:22:53
  really want to see you because I just want to go.
• 1:22:56
  I want to go home. I wanted to get in my car and
• 1:22:59
  drive home. It was about it's only. 2 1/2
• 1:23:01
  hours you could have. I wanted to get in my car and
• 1:23:03
  drive home, but I had already paid for that hotel room.
• 1:23:06
  So I met Chris. We went and got something to
• 1:23:08
  eat. I think we ate a little Mexican
• 1:23:09
  restaurant. Didn't even want to talk about
• 1:23:11
  the game because it was a horrible day and horrible night
• 1:23:16
  because of what happened during that game.
• 1:23:18
  And Brian, I put that out of my mind.
• 1:23:20
  It was two years ago and you brought it back up.
• 1:23:23
  Hey, man, I, I, I mentioned it just a little bit.
• 1:23:26
  Grayson threw it out there. And I mean, and to his point, I
• 1:23:28
  mean, it was that was one of the worst game experiences I've ever
• 1:23:35
  had from a stadium standpoint, a heat standpoint and an outcome
• 1:23:40
  standpoint, like all of it was. Bad.
• 1:23:45
  Curtis absolutely all of it. Why we why we own it.
• 1:23:48
  What is the worst game you've ever attended?
• 1:23:52
  The worst game I've ever detected like.
• 1:23:54
  You feeling like just drained when you left 2014 Georgia?
• 1:24:03
  Tech Fuqua, who has went come on a couple times, talked wrestling
• 1:24:09
  me and him drove up for the day, good seats.
• 1:24:13
  That's when like had the kind of game under control or was
• 1:24:17
  driving and remember brewing through that interception was on
• 1:24:21
  the out route like we were driving probably we score a
• 1:24:24
  touchdown, we win and we turn it over right there.
• 1:24:27
  Paul Johnson gets it. We don't ever touch the ball
• 1:24:29
  again. And we could hear we were
• 1:24:33
  walking underneath North End zone like that.
• 1:24:35
  That was one of the only times I've ever left the game where it
• 1:24:38
  wasn't a blowout and the game was still going on.
• 1:24:40
  I mean, we heard the final whistle as we were walking
• 1:24:43
  through North End zone. That was the worst game because
• 1:24:46
  we should have won that game. We should have won that game.
• 1:24:51
  Not even Purdue, although Purdue makes me mad, but Georgia Tech,
• 1:24:57
  that one back in 2014 hit hard, you know, because you because
• 1:25:05
  you know, you're sitting there. And again, it was just you.
• 1:25:10
  You lost that field goal when you could have easily won that
• 1:25:13
  game. Thinking about all the
• 1:25:16
  heartaches. Look at everybody, Ted.
• 1:25:19
  Go ahead and put them in here, man.
• 1:25:21
  Put them in here. What's?
• 1:25:21
  Going on, put them. In experience, I'll tell y'all
• 1:25:25
  mine while we own it. One of them.
• 1:25:28
  Hold on, hold on, let's hit a couple here.
• 1:25:29
  So the Michigan game, well, I don't know, National
• 1:25:34
  championship is just different though.
• 1:25:35
  I mean, that's a different feel. I remember that I I wasn't
• 1:25:40
  there, but I don't remember this watching this one.
• 1:25:44
  Tyler, look up. What we got, probably.
• 1:25:47
  Was at the BTECU game down at Charlotte that one it was like
• 1:25:51
  1310. Robin said he had heat stroke
• 1:25:54
  there, too. I didn't want it in Nashville
• 1:25:56
  all. Right.
• 1:25:57
  So Nashville wasn't the worst. What was the worst?
• 1:26:01
  Nashville was pretty bad, but I think the worst that I've ever
• 1:26:04
  felt leaving the Virginia Tech game.
• 1:26:06
  I think it was 2019. Duke versus Virginia Tech in
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  black. Well, you went to the Friday
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  game. It was.
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  It was bad. Let me tell you how bad that
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  was, Curtis. Let me tell you how bad that
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  well first. Of all, you have never discerned
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  that you went to that game. Yeah, I want to.
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  I don't want to talk about it. That's how bad it was.
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  We have known you for six years now and you have never disclosed
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  this until. That's the game they ran.
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  The fake. Maybe we.
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  Were drunk, you did, but. That's the game.
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  They ran the fake field on us, right?
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  They destroyed us. They beat our asses on that
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  Friday night. It wasn't even the game.
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  Yeah, so I went so I went hung out with my whenever I tell you
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  I went to I stayed in Princeton, WV for that game.
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  So I went in whenever I talk about being in West Virginia,
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  which is a not a not nowhere that I need to be visiting.
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  I went to go visit my boy Mike. Big drink if y'all don't know.
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  Him. I know, Big drink.
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  So yeah, so I went to visit him. We rode to the game together and
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  that game was so bad. Mike, he was driving and we
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  drove back to Mason. He would not turn on the radio,
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  he wouldn't turn on the air, the heat windows down and nobody
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  could speak. We just was riding in silence
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  all the way back home. That's how bad it was.
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  It was horrible. It was just the feeling because
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  you knew right then I think we may have been like 2 and 1 going
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  into that game or somewhere, but you knew that the wheels had
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  fallen off. You knew it was at that point it
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  was done like it's nothing. We, we, we don't got nothing,
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  you know what I'm saying? It was pitiful.
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  Look at Phil throwing this one. Up Oh, they throwing them all
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  up. Look at this, look at this, look
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  at this, look at. Look how we feeling.
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  Man, we need some. We need some deep cuts here bro.
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  We need some new memories, some new good memories.
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  We do. You know what?
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  You said we got to get some new good.
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  Memories, by the way. Nobody ever needs to visit me.
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  I was there. I was there, Robin, and I felt
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  like, listen, man, I'm from Alabama and I've looked like
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  this my whole life. So.
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  I've been in some tough spots but Princeton WV had me
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  questioned and like are they going to butt rap me?
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  What's about to happen? What's about?
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  To happen. And I walked in a Walmart.
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  You know how Walmart be? You know what I'm saying?
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  You run into some people in Walmart and you have no shoes
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  on, no teeth. Man, you see, you see all types
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  of folks and then. Back with Mohawks, all type of
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  stuff. You do that.
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  Yeah, it was great. But that game, that Duke game,
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  the way I feel, I left for jeans.
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  That and Duke in 2019. I kind of didn't want to be a
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  Virginia Tech fan no more after that.
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  I really thought about coming home and buying an Auburn hat,
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  but you didn't, sorry. And somehow you stuck with it.
• 1:29:15
  Somehow you stuck with it. Stuck with it.
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  Blood for punishment man. I'm just stick with it.
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  We want that might be a summertime episode to get like
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  bring people on and let them share the miserable experiences
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  because we've all we've all, we've all felt them.
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  So this is a, this is a good night, but hopefully there's
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  more good memories in the future because Lord knows what we went
• 1:29:43
  through roughly the last 10 years.
• 1:29:47
  Come on, Lord, please, please, like just like 3 good seasons,
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  just just three good seasons. That's all I'm asking for.
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  Lord, I know I can't stay here, for I know I ain't going to stay
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  here forever. But while I'm here, just let me
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  see some good Virginia Tech football.
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  We got spoiled. We got spoiled.
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  All righty. Anything breaking did.
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  Did James Franklin retweet that? He's going to follow my format.
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  I seen that come across the board.
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  Not yet, all right. He's paying attention clearly,
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  all right. But with that being said,
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  appreciate y'all in the chat tonight.
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  Appreciate everybody for listening.
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  And that wrap up this episode of the Boundary Corner Podcast
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