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This Gay Week: LGBTQ Rights Are Under Attack Worldwide · The Karel Show

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  Speaker 3: Karl is the.
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  Speaker 1: One that you need to know.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's show signe.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, my little hedgehogs. It is time for another this
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  Speaker 3: gay week with Scott Jacobson live in the Ukraine and me.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about the monumental trans ruling here in the
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  Speaker 3: United States, Ukrainian soldiers and so much more. Don't go anywhere,
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  Speaker 3: all right, the so much more. Of course, it's Scott
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  Speaker 3: Jacobson with the good Man Project. You can read at
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  Speaker 3: the goodmanproject dot com and many many other places. He
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  Speaker 3: is live in Ukraine and I'd like him to stay
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  Speaker 3: that way. So he's gotten a warning from President Zelenski,
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  Speaker 3: not just him personally, but a lot of people. And
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  Speaker 3: what does the prayers have to say to you before
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  Speaker 3: we go on air here?
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  Speaker 1: So approximately two hours ago the kief post posted on
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  Speaker 1: Facebook or meta quote, Zelensky warned d Cranes to be
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  Speaker 1: especially careful tonight, saying Russia has been preparing a massive strike.
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  Speaker 1: He urged people to protect themselves, their families and children.
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  Speaker 1: You shelters and follow area alert's warning quote this night
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  Speaker 1: is exactly such a threat. Unquote. We have been expecting
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  Speaker 1: him to make a big attack for a few days now,
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  Speaker 1: maybe more than a week. We also had large attacks
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  Speaker 1: on May twenty four, June second, and June fifteen in
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  Speaker 1: the morning. Those are genuinely terrifying, except in the bathroom
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  Speaker 1: and two of them, and the closet in the third.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I couldn't sleep in a closet, but the bathroom
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  Speaker 3: I could do. Now, let me ask you, morning is
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  Speaker 3: late morning, he is late there. So when we finish,
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  Speaker 3: here are you going into the bathroom? Might be what
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  Speaker 3: are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 1: It depends on the severity of the bombardments. It could
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  Speaker 1: be a false alarm. However, it's good to be prudent
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  Speaker 1: when the leader of the country, with more intelligence and
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  Speaker 1: Intelligence service warnings can give you proper information about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So when the president say this is going to
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  Speaker 3: be a bad.
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  Speaker 1: Night, this is a long war, they have experience with this.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's just me, but it's gonna be a long night.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Well, let's start this gay week with a
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  Speaker 3: monumental US Supreme Court ruling singling out trans people for
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  Speaker 3: no reason whatsoever, where They basically said state bans, and
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  Speaker 3: they they banteaed about this on the behalf of state's rights,
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  Speaker 3: where states that ban male to female transgendered people from
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  Speaker 3: being in women's sports, those bands are upheld. They said
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  Speaker 3: that the states had the right to create such bands
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  Speaker 3: and that it was not their job to override state rights,
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  Speaker 3: which they do all the time when it suits them.
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  Speaker 3: It's a setback, it's unnecessary, it's hurtful, it's all of
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  Speaker 3: those things. It gives the other parts of the world
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  Speaker 3: license to do the same. They're struggling with this in
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  Speaker 3: many countries, and now when they see what the US
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  Speaker 3: Supreme Court does, I imagine they're more apt to say, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: see we can ban it. Not a good not a
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  Speaker 3: good thing, not a good story, not a good ruling.
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  Speaker 3: But what I'm sure they'll feel around the world, Scott,
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  Speaker 3: because you know, as does America sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: The export, you know, the American ideological systems export a lot.
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  Speaker 1: This happens to be one subset of them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's over such a ridiculous topic. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I did the numbers and like it's it's so infinitesimal.
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  Speaker 3: It's literally like one tenth of one percent of one
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  Speaker 3: hundredth I mean, of the amount of trans people in
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  Speaker 3: general population. I believe I looked it up. It was
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  Speaker 3: one percent, is what I believe it said. And then
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  Speaker 3: of those that want to be athletes are another one percent,
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  Speaker 3: And of those that are of school age, which is
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  Speaker 3: what this pertains to high schools and universities, that's another
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  Speaker 3: one percent. So you have one percent of one percent
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  Speaker 3: of I mean. So we're probably talking that this affects
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  Speaker 3: five thousand, ten thousand people in the entire country. And
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  Speaker 3: yet the Supreme Court at a time where chaos is
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  Speaker 3: reigning in the United States, inflation out of control, social
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  Speaker 3: security about to topple, climate change literally killing people in
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  Speaker 3: the streets in Spain and France, and this is what
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  Speaker 3: they're worried about. That scares me even more than their
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  Speaker 3: rulings because this will be undone by the Democrats when
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  Speaker 3: the Demo crowd to take power. But I'm more concerned
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  Speaker 3: with the fact that everyone's more concerned with trans people
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  Speaker 3: and where they pee or if they play sports than
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  Speaker 3: saving the actual freaking planet. Uh So I have a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of alarm there. Mm hm. As you're saying,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, as you as you said, under siege
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  Speaker 3: in a war that Trump said he would stop on
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  Speaker 3: day one, and he has spent more time talking about
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  Speaker 3: trans people than he has stopping the war. That you're
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  Speaker 3: actually getting an advisory to, you know, Duck and pugget Uh,
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  Speaker 3: it just really really does. All right, Well, then let
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  Speaker 3: we should probably start with the Russian story since they're
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  Speaker 3: probably gonna drop bombs on your head tonight. Haven't they
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  Speaker 1: That you need to know.
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  Speaker 3: Before we begin this story. Scott Jacobson, The good Man
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  Speaker 3: Project in Ukraine. This Gay Week with Corell, I would
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  Speaker 3: just like to say, I can't wait for the day
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  Speaker 3: when conservatives in any part of the world look up
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  Speaker 3: at the sky, see a rainbow and try to erect
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  Speaker 3: some sort of burm so no one can see it.
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  Speaker 3: I you know, these people have lost their minds. This
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  Speaker 3: comes out of Russia. SpongeBob has been censored in Russia
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  Speaker 3: amid LGBTQ propaganda fears. And there's a screenshot from someone
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  Speaker 3: in Russia that was watching SpongeBob who put a rainbow
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  Speaker 3: over his head and they blurred the rainbow. So I
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  Speaker 3: guess my shirt would be a no go. But so
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  Speaker 3: first of all, and this is the Kremlin aligned TV
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  Speaker 3: station that did this. Can I just say that SpongeBob
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  Speaker 3: is one of the gayest characters to exist in cartoons.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't know that he's gay, you're not paying attention.
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  Speaker 3: And the fact that it even airs in Russia, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to blur a rainbow while you're still airing one of
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  Speaker 3: the gayest cartoons around, it's just shows how stupid Vladimir
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  Speaker 3: Putin and his policies are, because, as you know, we
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  Speaker 3: reported it, they passed a law against LGBTQ propaganda. So
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  Speaker 3: I guess SpongeBob and his square pants and his rainbow
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  Speaker 3: over his head is speaking to gays or trying to
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  Speaker 3: convert children or something. I'm not sure what their fear is,
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  Speaker 3: but they got it well.
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  Speaker 1: When some American Christians will say that the Russia Federation
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  Speaker 1: and America have quite a bit in common. This is
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  Speaker 1: probably one of the things they have in mind outlawing
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  Speaker 1: the stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, someone said, I live in Russia. I
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  Speaker 3: don't understand. Are they really that stupid? It's a regular rainbow,
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  Speaker 3: It's not that rainbow. The day is not far off
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  Speaker 3: when we will ban real rainbows. And really, I truly
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  Speaker 3: believe that sooner or later they're gonna make glasses that
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  Speaker 3: block rainbows. So if you're out in the world and
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  Speaker 3: there's a rainbow in the sky, you won't you want
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  Speaker 3: to be able to see it, because these people are
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  Speaker 3: just this fucking crazy. Uh, and this ban in Russia.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I have to tell them a little through
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  Speaker 3: this week if you if you don't listen to my
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  Speaker 3: regular show, but if you did, there was a running
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  Speaker 3: theme all week. I'm pretty much fucking done, and so
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be making some huge changes. I may even
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  Speaker 3: just move out of my condo and go live in
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  Speaker 3: a house without an HOA and just other stuff. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just I'm really really done. And one of the things
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  Speaker 3: I'm really done with is homophobia and perpetrated by old
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  Speaker 3: rich white fucking men. You know, Vladimir Putin is one
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  Speaker 3: of the gayest leaders around, you know, and he really is.
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  Speaker 3: He lives like a gay man. He's prissy, he's prim
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  Speaker 3: he's skincare products, he's you know, all this other crap
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  Speaker 3: at surrounded only by men, you know, and has a
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  Speaker 3: love affair with Donald Trump going on. But Vladimir Putin
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  Speaker 3: making anti gay laws is like littering in a landfill.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's so fricking ridiculous. Uh. And
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump and the Supreme Court, and you know, these
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  Speaker 3: people in Europe, you know what this each week we
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  Speaker 3: come on here and we talk about this shit. It's
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  Speaker 3: like history is not gonna judge these people. Well, it's
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  Speaker 3: just not.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, Vladimir Putin will be judge poorly for
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  Speaker 3: a variety of reasons, one of which will be his
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  Speaker 3: stance on human rights, and that includes LGBTQ rights. And
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  Speaker 3: when he is dead and gone, and that will be
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  Speaker 3: sooner than later. The man is not immortal when he
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  Speaker 3: is dead and gone. I do hope that Russians decide
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  Speaker 3: to move in a more progressive fashion, because the Russians
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  Speaker 3: that I meet, there's a ton of them in Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: They left Russia for that very reason. You know, they
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  Speaker 3: want progressive values. They want to advance into the future.
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  Speaker 3: They don't want to be living in the Kremlin of old.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, blurring a rainbow above a cartoon character's head,
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  Speaker 3: how insecure is your manhood that you have to do that?
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  Speaker 3: So you know, outside of having the smallest penis in
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  Speaker 3: all of Russia, Vladimir Putin and all of those that
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  Speaker 3: are banning, and we have proof that the more homophobic
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  Speaker 3: you are, the more apt you are to want to
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  Speaker 3: have same sex. So you know, it seems to me
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  Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin wants to dorak half of his military.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is probably at about the level of the
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  Speaker 1: American case of keyword searches for things like gay and
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  Speaker 1: then eliminating government pages to historical moments in America like
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  Speaker 1: the Aola gay right. It's a similar type of.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they took down the photo, they took down the picture.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I love this stuff. This is file.
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  Speaker 3: SpongeBob has been banned.
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  Speaker 1: In I was fourteen years old. I was fourteen years old,
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you, and I went into our local
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  Speaker 1: library and there's time of DVDs and I pulled out
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  Speaker 1: a DVD and had very strange cover on this DVD
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  Speaker 1: and it said Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: And the more time has gone by watching so much
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  Speaker 1: Monty Python growing up, I've seen so much of just
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  Speaker 1: that slanted view on life basically not only mimic the
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  Speaker 1: life of their time in some way, but also be
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  Speaker 1: predictive of how absurdist things can become.
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  Speaker 3: The Simpsons has successfully predicted over two hundred events that
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  Speaker 3: have come true. The Simpsons. They even predicted Donald Trump
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  Speaker 3: as president.
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  Speaker 1: On the Escalator too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they I mean, it's uncanny, and that's because good
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  Speaker 3: comedy writers they know the absurd, but when they think
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  Speaker 3: of the absurd, they think of it within guardrails. In
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  Speaker 3: other words, this sounds absurd, but it could happen, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And that's what makes it funny. You laugh because you think, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's ridiculous, but then in your brain you're going, but
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  Speaker 3: I could see it happening, you know. And it's the
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  Speaker 3: same thing, just like science fiction is science prediction. I
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  Speaker 3: fully believe most of what people write and science fiction
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  Speaker 3: is going to come true, which is how I know
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  Speaker 3: we're all fucked. Because AI is going to kill us.
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  Speaker 3: But okay, another story out of Russia, since we're picking
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  Speaker 3: on Vladimir. A bar owner and two employees I believe
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  Speaker 3: were jailed under the lg the same thing, the LGBTQ
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  Speaker 3: propaganda law. What was their crime? I couldn't seem to
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  Speaker 3: find it in the story that maybe that's not in
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  Speaker 3: the story. Maybe they didn't maybe they didn't come in
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  Speaker 3: a crime.
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  Speaker 1: So an owner and two employees of Orenberg's Pose Club
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  Speaker 1: were jailed under the Moscow's lgbt Movement Extremism band. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a criminalization of space speech, assembling cultural expression.
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  Speaker 3: So in other words, they gave the gays a place
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  Speaker 3: to gather. Is that the idea?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the criminalized the space together.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's why they're in jail. Yeah. But so this
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  Speaker 3: bartender or this bar owner and his two employees opened
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  Speaker 3: the bar for some gays, is what we're saying.
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  Speaker 1: That appears to be the case. That appears to be
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  Speaker 1: the case.
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  Speaker 3: And off to the huskay with him, because Russia doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have any other fucking problems. That's see, that's the theme
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  Speaker 3: of the week. It's like, you know, the US Supreme
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  Speaker 3: Court has nothing to worry about, But where trans people
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  Speaker 3: play sports and or p and in Russia, there's absolutely
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  Speaker 3: nothing to worry about except arresting this bar owner and
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  Speaker 3: two employees because he gave some queens a place together,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to meet. It's like, as a species, when
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  Speaker 3: we fail, and we will, we can look back on
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  Speaker 3: exactly why, and we can point to things like this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's two distinctions between the Russian and the American case.
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  Speaker 1: Though the American case, most of these court cases that
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  Speaker 1: mister Trump and his administration put through fail, but it's
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  Speaker 1: part of the largest rategy delineated by mister Bannon around
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  Speaker 1: flooding the zone. I believe it was his phrase of it.
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  Speaker 1: In the Russian case, Lennar Putin has very strong controls
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  Speaker 1: over much of the society. Therefore, Yeah, so therefore a
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  Speaker 1: push legally and culturally, and with what we're seeing with
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  Speaker 1: these two cases enforcement of that UNTILGBT law directly without
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  Speaker 1: much opposition.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fucking shame. You know, it's been a
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  Speaker 3: bad Pride month. Now July twenty eighth, it's July, so
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  Speaker 3: Pride Month is over. But July twenty eighth through August
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  Speaker 3: third is the World Pride in Amsterdam. I wish I
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  Speaker 3: were going, I am releasing my single you Have to
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  Speaker 3: Be Proud on July twenty third, so it'll be out
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  Speaker 3: for World Pride July twenty eighth, and you know, the
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  Speaker 3: themes over there are going to be more somber too,
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  Speaker 3: because it's not just the United States that is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: going through all this turmoil when it comes to LGBTQ
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  Speaker 3: people and a theme. Malania Trump today that hooker. She
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  Speaker 3: came out and said she supports the trans Athlete band
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  Speaker 3: and she supports the Supreme Court's decision. However, she supports
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  Speaker 3: LGBTQ people and their rights, and all months long, I've
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  Speaker 3: been hearing that kind of double speak from preachers and
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  Speaker 3: other bigots. Well, I don't support trans people, and I
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  Speaker 3: certainly don't think anyone should transition in puberty, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't think anyone should trans people should play sports. But
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  Speaker 3: I support the LGBTQ community. No, oh, you fucking don't,
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  Speaker 3: Malania Trump. If she believes that trans people should be
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  Speaker 3: kept out of sports, then she doesn't support the LGBTQ
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  Speaker 3: community because guess what, they're a part of it. And
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  Speaker 3: it's the same with preachers this whole We love our
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  Speaker 3: gay brothers and sisters. We just hate their sin. Then
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  Speaker 3: you don't love us because we're not sinning, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: We're just being natural and normal the way your alleged
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  Speaker 3: God made us. So this month, I have never heard
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  Speaker 3: more people speaking out of both sides of their mouth
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  Speaker 3: than in my lifetime. It's just and maybe it's because
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  Speaker 3: of social media. I had under one of our shows
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  Speaker 3: on Facebook, some queen posted and said, explain to me,
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  Speaker 3: as a gay man, exactly what rights I'm losing? And Imo,
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  Speaker 3: did you not listen to the last fucking hour. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's like no, so no, he didn't listen
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  Speaker 3: to the last hour.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Well, the sinning part is a pretty it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty straightforward. Invented disease, offer the cure, ask for money.
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  Speaker 3: Homosexuality is not in the Bible. Same sex attraction and
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  Speaker 3: or sex is not mentioned in the Bible. Christ never
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  Speaker 3: mentioned it. They have misinterpreted the language of the Bible.
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  Speaker 3: Nowhere in the Bible is homosexuality mentioned at all period.
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  Speaker 3: And there's none of this lie with man as with man.
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  Speaker 3: That's a complete misinterpretation. There's been six interpretations of this Bible.
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  Speaker 3: A couple by a pope won by an emperor and
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  Speaker 3: along the way, a lost in translation is a real thing.
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  Speaker 3: These people are completely and totally idiots, that's all they are.
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  Speaker 3: And I say that because soccer. I say that because
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  Speaker 3: of the story you found about Iran soccer captain that
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  Speaker 3: says we respect all LGBTQ people before or after you
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  Speaker 3: throw us off a fucking building. I mean, do you
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  Speaker 3: say I totally you know? Do you say I totally
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  Speaker 3: respect you right before you push us off the building?
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  Speaker 3: You know? I mean? And they also told Faifa that
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  Speaker 3: no one could fly any flags at their events, and
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  Speaker 3: they did that specifically for Pride flags because their event
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  Speaker 3: was scheduled during Pride months. But they respect LGBTQ people.
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  Speaker 3: I would hate to see what Iranians do to people
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  Speaker 3: they don't respect. Oh wait, they bomb them, now I
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  Speaker 3: know what they do. Never mind, yep. The World Cup
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  Speaker 3: held a Pride round in Seattle on Friday, featuring Iran
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  Speaker 3: in Egypt, two countries not known for their acceptance of
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  Speaker 3: lgbt Boy, did that author ever write an understatement?
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  Speaker 1: It's yeah, they write that's how like That's often how
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  Speaker 1: Reuters and AP news journalists right. Very understated neutral objectives.
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  Speaker 3: Not widely known for their acceptance. They kill us. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's whatever. The match ended in a one one draw.
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  Speaker 3: During the postmatch media conference around captain Medd Taremi made
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  Speaker 3: a notable comment when asked about playing during the Pride round.
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  Speaker 3: We respect all of the LGBTQ people, he said, that's
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  Speaker 3: their own idea. It's not about us. We are here
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  Speaker 3: to play football. We respect all of those guys.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's well, I'll put it this way. Akin to
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the sending point, it's also very simple. It's not very complicated.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Most people, for part one of this, don't read their
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: holy text, or if they do not fully part two
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: of this, most of the people who get their religious interpretations,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: they're getting it read to them.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: This guy plays in the sport was short, so tight
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: you could see the year of a quarter if it
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: was in his pocket. They smack each other on the ass,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: and after the match they all get shirtless and then
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: go to a locker room where no women are allowed,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: and they're going to make some comment about day. By
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: the way, the both Iranian and Egyptian officials opposed it
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: from didn't like them. Also, during the match, Pride flags
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: were flown. No show, all right, We are back with
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Scott Jacobson of The good Man Project and I am
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Corel and it's this Scay week. By the way, my
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: friend Hannah is in your neck of the woods. Well, no,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: she's on Ukraine. She's in Vancouver because tomorrow night or
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: no tonight, Thursday night, there's a there's a uh World
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Cup game in Vancouver, and so she's gone to that
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: because guess who she reps. Guess guess I don't know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: the Iranian the Iranian soccer team.
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  Speaker 1: Hilarious. Tell her to go to the Red Room. It's
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: a good Latin club.
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  Speaker 3: She's a publicist, a very high ranking publicist in the
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: world of publicist, and FIFA came to her. They hired
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: twelve additional outside publicists. She's one of them, and they
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: assigned each of them a team, and they assigned Hannah
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: the Iranian team. And I said, but you're so pro
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: gay and woman's rights and liberal and and you know
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: she's to be a Republican. But then I taught her
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: better and she goes yes, and she's like, you'd be surprised,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: but most of the members of the team are not
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: what you would think an Iranian soccer player would be.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: They're really just about soccer. They don't care about out
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: any of the other politics, human rights, any of that.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: They just wanted to go play soccer. And I said, well,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: they're naives because the World Cup is partly about your
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: country and your country pride and all of that. But
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: it was very problematic for her the last thirty days
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: because even JD. Vance said he didn't want them, you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: to play, He didn't want them in the United States
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: all this other stuff, so, you know, and I said
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: to myself, well, now your little Iranian friends know what
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: it feels like to be discriminated again simply for being
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: who you are. I mean, I'm maybe that's why he
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: came out with that statement. Maybe that's why the team
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: captain had a change of heart. I respect the gays
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: right as I throw them off the building. I totally
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: respect them, all right.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I was a protest march in Vancouver. A prominent Iranian
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: atheist had a T shirt that said something that effect
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: several years ago, A law is gay, something like that,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And there were a few Muslims that came by and
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the approaches that thank you like it's you know, it's
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: an individual thing. But these blood trends typically come from
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the government.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: If there were a God, that God would be all sexualities.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: That if if a God is an omnipotent, all powerful,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: all everything, it would also be all sexualities. It would
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: be straight, it would be gay, it would be by,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: it would be trans, it would be everything, because it
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: would it's everything it is. You know, if we're made
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: in its image, then it would have to be all
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: of those things. It would have to be white.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I know in some seminaries they probably teach something
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and can to panentheism or pantheism or pandeasm, where basically, yeah,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: you do get everything as God or everything as God
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in the universe and then infinitely extended out to that
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and so you have this sort of this allness implication.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite like about Buddhists. They have a lot
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: of Buddhists. There's not just one Buddha. There's a lot
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: of Buddhis. There's the fat Buddha and the skinny Buddha,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: and there's a lot of different bud There's the ozembic
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Buddha and the nan ozempic Buddha. All right, we just
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: have a few seconds in this segment, but when we
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: come back. We will talk about something that Bulgaria is
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: doing that how many states now nine American states also
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: did during June, so we'll talk about that. We'll also
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: talk about how you can help some gays escape, and
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: then we'll circle back to Ukraine where the soldiers there
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: are and the ones in the photo. I'm like, well,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: let me join the Ukrainian army, honey, because the ones
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: in the photo were kind of cute. But we'll talk
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: about what the Ukrainian LGBTQ soldiers and there are some
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: what they are talking about or what they need. We
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: are doing this Gay Week. Of course, Scott Jacobson is
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: with the good Man Project and you can read all
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: about all of his articles. There's thousands of them. The
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Goodmanproject dot is it do c A or dot com?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Dot com American?
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so the Goodmanproject dot com. It's actually a
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: cool website and it doesn't just talk to men. If
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: you're a woman, you can go there and read things
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: about men or by men. But it's great.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I have tens of thousands of articles.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's a it's a huge website. So
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: I was going through some of the stuff and fell
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: down a rabbit hole, and I was like, oh my goodness,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: what the hell.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: The editors are amazing, they process so much material.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, journalism, you got to seek it out
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: now because it's not you know, CBS over here has
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: gone to shit. And I just read something about Sky
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: and something in the UK. There's some sort of merger
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: going on over there, so it's about to be taken
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: over by some or spun off. There's a merger happening
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: here and somehow it's going to affect Sky in the UK.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: It's either going to be spun off or it's gonna
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: be its own into some some things happening with it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I don't watch Sky because it's Rupert Murdoch, but and
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I think he felt That's what I think is happening.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I think Rupert Murdoch might have sold Sky, but who
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: can tell. I mean, I don't know. But you got
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: to seek out journalism nowadays because it's you know, and
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: by the way, you're not under and you're not under
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: anything yet. Would you hear an alarm, like right now,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: if it went off, would you hear it? Yeah, episode
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: you would, so you're close enough to the.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, they they bomb certain areas that target them
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: and they're very close, and on the phone you get
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: an alert. I turn off the super loud alarm, so
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I just get the alert. It rumbles on my phone,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and then they tell you when it's over. And they
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: can last from maybe ten minutes, sometimes several hours, depending,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: but the short ones typically mean that it was not
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a ballistic missile. It was a drone because very low
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: rates they'll shoot done seventy percent of the drones. Higher
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: rates and more averages probably ninety or more percent, So
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: that's when you know they shut them down and then
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: it's no longer necessary.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: So I would know, you know, I think it's the
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: fourth of July weekend over here, and there's gonna be
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: all these fireworks for Jember. It's Canada Day today, Oh,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: yes it is. I said that on my show yesterday.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I said, hey, Canada became a becomes a country tomorrow.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Upper and Lower Canada confederated, yes, first eighteen seven.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, So I was very very thrilled to read that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I thought, oh, my ancestors, they got together today and
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: they did well. You know, and I don't know when
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: this segment's ending, so we'll just jump right into the
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Ukraine stories, and we're talking Ukraine bombing and everything. Sure, sure,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: So Ukraine has been very good about a few things,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: and one of them is LGBTQ people in their military.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: They need, they need anybody, and so they have really
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: let LGBTQ people just serve and serve opening uh And
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: there haven't been that much of a hoopla about uh
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: So when we come back, because now I see it's
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: about the day. When we come back, we're gonna talk
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: about a hoopla being made by the lgbt colder because
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: they are making the third They's done on the front line.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: They've been shooting down the throne. They've been with Player
• 29:21
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• 29:25
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  Speaker 3: All Right? Is this Gay Week with Scott Jacobson of
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the good Man Project and me, Corel, I'm the gay.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Every week my shirt would be banned in Russia. It's
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: the rainbow. So you know, I just wouldn't wouldn't do it?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Uh so, yeah, exactly, He's my hero. No LGBTQ soldiers
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: have been serving openly in the Ukrainian government, in their
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: regime or in their military, and the two in the
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: photo of the story you sent me, I'll have the
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: same birth effect. Do you know what it is? Take
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: a look at the picture. Do you see their birth effect?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I see it popped right out at me. I wonder
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: if all Ukrainians have this particular birth deffect, because these
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: two certainly do nothing. Huh m hmm, ye, I've seeing
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: It's enormous. It's their Adam's apples. Do you see they
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: both have enormous Adams apples. That's the birth defect?
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Yes? Do you know what causes a large Adams apple?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: What causes it? And what is it called?
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: That's well, that's it's called your Adam's apple?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Uh? And what causes it the actual extra protrusion.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: That's called an Adam's apple?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Well.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: What's the real name for an Adam's apple? Wow? She
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: is such an idiot. She really is real name for
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Adams Apple, a real name. L They call it larryng
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Old prominence. That's what they call it. And here is
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: here is what happens. Uh. The cartilage which protects the
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: vocal cords and the front of the airway joins. It
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: tends to be larger and more externally visible in adult
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: males due to a widening of the cartilage angle during puberty.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: And the reason that it widens is because in the womb,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: when you when your body is determined to be male
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: or female, and when it when it's determined to be male. Oh,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: you went away. I guess you didn't like my explanation. Well,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: there you are. You're back. I thought you didn't like
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: my explanation. Uh. So when you're in the womb and
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: you and your body has determined that German, and it
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: starts flooding you with testosterone. Uh, some people get too
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: much testosterone and it causes an Adam's apple. So actually,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: that lengeal malformation is caused by a little bit too
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: much testosterone. Their voice box keeps growing after it should
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: have stopped. It should have stopped growing, but because there's
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: a little more testosterone, it grows bigger, and that's what
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: causes an atom's apple. Too much testosterone. So it's a
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: birth defect because not everybody has it. I don't have one.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: That's how you can clock a drag queen. By the way,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: you can totally clock it. Women do not have them.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: They do not have They say that biological females can
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: have them. I have never seen a woman with an
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: atom's apple ever. But during puberty, that extra testosterone charte
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: causes that to grow bigger, and that's what happens. There
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: is a biblical term for it, by the way. The
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: colloquial term comes from ancient folk lore tied to the
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: story of Adam and Eve. It originated from the myth
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: that a piece of forbidden fruit became stuck permanently in
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Adam's throat.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: That's actually a very interesting time. I like that.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I think that ranks up there one of the stupidest
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: things I've ever heard. All men men have an Adam's
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: apple because Adam couldn't swallow all of the apple.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: We'll think about achilles Heel and his mother dipping him
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: in that river to become immortal, except for the achilles Heel,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: She held him by that.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: That's more ridiculous.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Brad Pitt in that movie that was a bio pic.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, I.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Will swing my hand to the left and to the
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: right and snap my fingers. Don't you make me.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see that. Okay. Anyway, back to the
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Ukrainian soldiers that have the big Adam's apples and probably
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: other things too, because I got a lot of time stuff,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: you know. But anyway, so in America, nine state try
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: to declare June family month instead of pride. And they
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: did this, and we're gonna take it. He break there,
• 35:14
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• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Correll is the one that you need to know and
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: imply that we are neither part of families nor do
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: we form families by trying to declare it family month.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: So that you know that's gone on here now in Ukraine,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: LGBT soldiers are suing for legal family status, no marriage,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: and no rights, and yet they're serving their country and
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: they feel they should be able to come back and
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: have those things. I will tell you.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Right now, very sensitive topical career.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: This is what happened in the United States. We had
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: gays in the military. They were fighting for our country,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: and yet they couldn't do so openly, nor could they
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: get any of the benefits for their partners, et cetera,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: et cetera. Then don't Ask, don't Tell, which was a
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: failed debacle, came in and then finally the military realized
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: they had to grant them all the same rights and benefits,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: and so they now did. That is where Ukraine will
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: end up, I tell you. But you're saying right now
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: over there that this is still a problem.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Depends on the person. There can be moments of sensitivity,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: both domestically in terms of some people commenting on it,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: but also from people seeing foreigners comment on it. A
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: sensitive thing. I do not think the war makes it
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: any less more sensitive. It probably amplifies it by quite
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: a degree.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, Ukraine doesn't have same sex marriage, but
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: same sex couples can sue for recognition as a family.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I know that sounds odd, but under the law, that's
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: all that gay couples can do, and that gives the
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: minimal legal recognition as a same sex family. It doesn't
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: mean that they're married, because same sex marriage is illegal,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: but it means that the government recognizes them as a
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: family unit. If that isn't talking out both sides your mouth,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know what.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Is What we are seeing here is a clash. I've
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: done this for any many many years, even when a
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Canadian eith was still running a stock defunct clashing two
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: dominant ethical systems, one parochial but transnational, which is take
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: your major dominant religion Islam, Christianity, Hinduism for instance, Buddhism,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: or pick a more universalist standard that is not parochial
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and which in fact, even theocratic societies at least try
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: to play by. At the United Nations International Human rights
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: which by their definition of incorporating everyone, are secular. So
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the United Nations documents, these conventions and so on will
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: talk about rights, they will also talk about the family
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: as the fundamental group unit of the society. So with
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: this bulgarian thing around family, trying to exclude LGBTI plus
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: individuals and their coupling and families from the definition of family.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: They're clashing with this international Human Rights standard, which is
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: more universalist and broader in definition, has LGBTI core group
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that sort of implicatory about all of this kind of stuff.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: And so this Bulgarian example is another example of this
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: international class we're seeing over and over between two ethical systems.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And one is going to have to prevail at the
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: end of the day, and one grants same res for everyone.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: The other ones don't, right, And as you reference in Bulgaria,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: you know, they're recognizing the family March on the same
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: day as LGBTQ Pride, and they're doing that on purpose,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: and they're doing that to to slap the gaze and
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: say we still don't accept you. Not by the way,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know why straight people feel the need to
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: let us know they still don't accept us. We get
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: the point.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: You know, that's fine, Well, no, that's true.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I mean message recently, I.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Mean, I mean, yeah, it's like you know it speaking
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: like a non religious person, someone you know tells you
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: the greatest.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Thing is well, I might accept some things that other
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: people don't as traditional, like sex on the first date.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: That's in the gay world. Well, usually have sex before
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: the first date. Do you have sex to see I
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: go on?
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: The common joke with lesbian The common joke with lesbian
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: friend of mine is at first date, you know, on
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the first date, the one woman she comes over and
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: she brings a parent you haul toaster, you know that
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: sort of thing.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: No, you haul?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you haul? Yeah, that's the other joke. Yeah, third
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: date yeah.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Third day. Ah. A lesbian on the first date has
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: a U haul in the parking lot. A gay man
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: they have sex before the first date to you even
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: see if they're going to go out. You know, that's
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: the way. That is What really gets you is they talk.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: They use the word traditional. They use these these dog
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: whistle words, and traditional is a dog whistle word. And
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: the funny thing is gays are traditional a We have
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: been a part of every traditional family in the world.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: That's where we came from. We didn't come from untraditional families.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: We came from traditional families. That's where we came from.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: A mother, a father, most of us, some gay kids
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: now come or other kids come from you know, lesbian
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: households or whatever, or same men households, but for the
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: most part, even those are traditional because they're usually married.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: And you know, so we come from traditional households. So
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: to use the term traditional as a dog whistle that
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: symbolizes anti gay is ridiculous. We live in traditional households.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: We come from societies rich in tradition. We are a
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: part of every society's traditions. There is not one societal
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: tradition that go art, literature, music, song, whatever it might be.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: There's not one tradition that we're not that we didn't
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: influence that, or we create for the love of God.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: And so it's ridiculous when they use that word against
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: us because we are, by the very definition of who
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: we are traditional.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: We can extend the point, yeah, extend the point. It's
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: tradition is not exactly helpful. For instance, slavery in a
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: lot of societies is tradition, tradition, like South Korea had
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the longest unbroken chain of slavery of any society, maybe
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: one thousand to fifteen hundred years or something like this
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: that was traditional. Does that necessarily mean, right, that's part one.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Part two. What we really mean is homosexuality, et cetera
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: is ancestral. It is tied to who we are as
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: a species, and traditions that we're inheriting doesn't necessarily mean right.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: And for the last several thousand years, a lot of
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the traditions we've inherited have been domination oriented systems right,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and the people who've been dominated had typically been those
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: who don't hold the numbers to have any right overalling
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: power in society.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, there's enough that there's so few of you that
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: you're subjugated. And in this Bulgarian story, at a time
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: of moral disorientation, social fragmentation, and profound demographic crisis, safeguarding
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: the traditional family is not simply a matter of personal choice.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: It is a cornerstone of our national security, identity and future,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: said MP Slavi Vesdileev. There's so much wrong with everything
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: that man uttered. I can't even you know, I could
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: go into it a dissertation that would take a couple hours.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I'd be curious if we had more women's input.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: On some of the stuff moral disorientation. If you know
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: what's causing moral disorientation, the stratification going on, that's what's
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: causing it. The uber rich and the uber poor. You know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: that's the biggest moral lemma of our time. How do
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: we take care of our here in our country? Social
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: security is about to get cut by twenty percent if
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: they don't fix it. People are already living in poverty
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: that live on social security, trust me, and you know
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: what a twenty percent cut is. You want to preserve
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: the morality of society, Make sure they have enough to eat,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: make sure that their lights are on, their gas, that
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: they have heat or air conditioned, make sure they have
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: food on the table, a job to go to. I
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: don't see any of that mentioned here about the family
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: or how to preserve the traditional family. You do so
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: by making sure that oh are you hearing a horn?
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: A siren? Were you hearing a siren?
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: No? I heard there was a piece of machinery. It
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: was an explosion, probably a price piece of machinery.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: This is my mouth open. So someone I'm interviewing just
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: took off his earphone and put it back on and said, oh,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: probably just something blowing up. Let's let's keep talking.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: That.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: That only in a fucking war zone. I mean, my god,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: that's of machinery blowing up. It could have been the
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: vehicle out front of our house. For the love of God. Yeah,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: it's just something blowing up. Oh Lord, Okay, Okay, we'll
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: continue in any event, a social fragmentation, moral disorientation, profound
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: demographic crisis. All of that is caused not by gay people,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: but by societal upheaval, brought about by poverty, by you know,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: the demographics. He's talking about people not having babies. They
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: don't want to have babies as they can't afford them,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: you know, because they're not sure of what kind of world. Yeah,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: and because they're not sure what kind of world they're
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: bringing them into. You know, you want.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Medical experts A big thing when I talk to medical
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: experts for me, the big thing they talk about sort
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: of encapsulting about what you're talking about. And these are
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: American ones in particular, a social determinants of health. Yeah,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: and a lot of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck yep,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: particularly if they're African American, American, et cetera. And another
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: part of that is Okay, another part of that is
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the only social stratification, but the number one cause of
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: bankruptcy in the United States is health. Medical costs around
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: the end of life, medical.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. Yes, in your last four years of life,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: you spend more on healthcare than you did your entire
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: first seventy six or eighty years of your life. In
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: your last four years.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: That's unsustainable as a model for sure.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess we just kill them. What do
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: we do?
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Some would see that as as a solution.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we fucking pay We have the money. We let
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: them die with dignity because we have the money. We
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: just we just appropriated ninety fucking billion dollars to fight Iran.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: You know, we have the money. I don't ever want
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: to hear about it.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: We don't have the world for healthcare, social infrastructure. I'm
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: saying from those individuals who are against that social welfare structure,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: they would see that as a solution of just getting
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: rid of that structure.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: You know, when they wouldn't say that when the eighty
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: four and sick, that's when they wouldn't say that. All
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, they'd be like, no, I should have
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: access to healthcare. I should yes. And so because of
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: healthcare costs, people are not having children because it's not
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: just the expense of the delivery and the child, it's
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: the ongoing medical expenses of a child, and even just
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: the insurance on the child. If you don't have a
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: job that includes insurance. If you're buying insurance, it's going
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: to cost you hundreds of dollars a month to put
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: that child on your insurance, and people just don't have it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: In case.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: It's not the game cases too, like Romania's Cucchescu had
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: degree seventy seventy god, but where women were where women
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: were mandated to have numerous children and they're still seeing
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: the consequences of that, where they were demanding, essentially by
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: the state for women to have all these kids, but
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: then not provide the resources and sustainability of infrastructure for
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: them to even you're the same.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Thing here in the United States. Elon Musk is out
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: there we must have more children, and JB. Vance is
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: saying we must have more children. Okay, well, where's the
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: child care for the women who work, where's the free
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: medical care, where's the you know, the socialized medicine. So
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: they you know, they keep saying they want Americans to
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: have more babies, but they're not giving them any help
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: to have them. Although I don't feel you should reward
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: people for breeding, but whatever, I mean, you know, I mean,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: if you want to breed, breed, if you can't afford it,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: then don't breathe.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: What was the term used maybe still use moves in
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: several decades past. Was it was the term breeders within
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: community was.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Great people used to call straight people. Yes, there was
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: a time in the gay gam we called straight people breeders.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I never did, I never. I always sort of saw
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: that as a derogatory to you know, so I.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Think it was intended as such, but it was more
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: humorous than anything. I think you pointed with the bulgarian thing.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: More in point of the bulgarian thing, I think you're
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: getting it is the fact that the point you made
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: it a prior episode that where do these people think,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: all these gay people are coming from the crop, from
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: gay armies and straight mallows.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Now over in the UK, you're in England and specifically
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: over a thousand gay soldiers who were thrown out of
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: the armed forces for being gay, maybe missing out on compensation,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: and so they are sounding the alarm that they're being
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: left out. Apply soon, yeah, exactly, apply soon. There are
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: benefits there at least the British government is I mean
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: the United States government hasn't done that. They haven't gone
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: back and said if you were gay and you served
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: and you were dishonorably discharged, you can you can appeal
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: and we will give you your pension or whatever. They're
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: not the US Army is not doing that, but they're
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: doing it in the UK because they do a lot
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: of shiit better than we do. Uh. And one of
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: these is this, however, there is a deadline. So if
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: the end they're not going to move the deadline, they're like, look,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: apply by this time or you don't get the benefits.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: And there's over a thousand soldiers who fear that they're
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: not going to get the benefits because applying has gotten complicated.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: The website either goes down or they're not sure how
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: to do it because they're old. Uh. And so there's
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: a lot of different reasons, but they're afraid that they're
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: not going to be included. So I just think it
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: should be a blame. I mean, the military has records
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: they do out for being gay. They shouldn't have to
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: apply for anything.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: They're going to check the fucking all.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Right, we'll be back when God's visit things up, given
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: nothing blows up during break But you know that kind
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: of party. Yeah, I've never had.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: No show side.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: All right, So this day week ranks the one ranks
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: among some of the highest listen to and viewed correl shows,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: particularly on sound SoundCloud, uh and also on Apple Music.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: And I just wanted to say thank you for that,
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: uh and also very welcome.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: And we are getting actively bombed in most of the
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: country now.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: And you don't mean drunk, I take it. You don't
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: mean you're all drunking heavily.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: No, no, there so there's no active area to alarm.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: That was notified, notified on my phone. But that's also
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: because they didn't exactly end the last one, but the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: alert shows about so just kept going. So approximately I
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: put it in two third of the country from the
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: eastern flank to here. It a little bit passed, not
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: all the way to Leviv, far east.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Basically it's the it's so basically it's the bath tub
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: after this is what you're saying.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Who knows before we go.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: There's a couple of stories I didn't send you, but
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: I did want to address on this gay Week because
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: it it I don't want to say, because it reflects
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of the conversations that have started this month,
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: and I don't understand them.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: There was a story at NBC News or was it? No? Where?
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Was it the New York Times? I'm sorry. It was
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: an opinion column at the New York Times. And the
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: article says, I'm gay, not queer. It matters. And it's
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: this whole long diatribe about how he doesn't understand how
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: queer has become a word used to describe gay people.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: It used to be derogatory. Also how it has now
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: become sort of an umbrella term. It doesn't necesscessarily mean gay.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: It could mean gender non conforming, gender non binary, it
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: mean it could mean a bunch of things, and he
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: does make it. I want to say he almost redeems
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: himself when he says that that word has given people
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: a place to be. In other words, people who don't
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: identify as gay or lesbian, it has given them a
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: place to be. But he wanted to make sure, through
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: this twenty seven hundred word opinion piece, that we understand
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: that he is a gay man and not queer, and
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: that there is a difference and that difference matters. After
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: reading the article, I can just say that difference only
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: matters to him. I always say, I don't care what
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: you call me as long as it's not a Republican
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: and or maga, And basically that's true. I don't get
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: some of the things the gay community has done over
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: the years they tried to reclaim the pink try. I
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: didn't understand that Hitler gave it to us. People died
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: wearing it. I didn't understand when we wanted it back.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: But there was about a ten year period where people
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: were wearing them, and you had bumper stickers and stuff
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: like that. Andrew and I got rid of ours. We
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: just didn't. We just couldn't understand how this. Jews don't
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: run around wearing a yellow star, you know, so right,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: you know so? For why would gays run around wearing
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: a pink triangle, which also wasn't exclusively gay, It was
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: gay Roma because the gays were grouped during the Holocaust.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: They were grouped with the Gypsies, the Romas and other deviants,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: So the pink triangle wasn't just four gays, but it
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: was mainly for gays. But this article, I'm gay, I'm
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: not queer. It matters. I think it's hurting our movement
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: that members inside of it are trying to parse out
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: the letters and say well, I'm this, I'm not this,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I'm gay, I'm not trans, i'm a lesbian, I'm not
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: by I'm you know. I think it's hurting the movement,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: and I really hope that it is my hope that
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: the community realizes, yeah, we're all different, just like all
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: humans are different. We're all different, but all of these
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: letters are under one big tent, and there's no need
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: to step outside of the tent and say I'm not
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: with them, you know. And so I really hope it
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: is my hope that this misguided queer, whoever is now
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: I just called him a queer. Sorry. Matthew Vines is
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: author of God and the Gay Christian the Biblical case
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: and support of same sex relationship, so he has some
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: sense there. It is my hope that he understands that. Okay,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: you want to write an intellectual think piece about the
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: difference between being a gay man and being a queer, Okay,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: but just remember you're all in the same tent, and
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: by the general public, we're all looked upon the same way.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: They don't see all the different letters. They see queers
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: or faggots or dykes or trainees you know what I mean.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: They don't use the alphabet the same way that we do.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: You know, when a straight person says queer, it's not
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: to be acknowledging of someone you know that's inclusive and different.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: It's to insult, you know. And so I think language
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: does matter, and that's what he's stressing. That language matters,
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: but it doesn't matter so much that it then makes
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: you break apart.
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: I really believe what's the publication again, the New York Times,
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: that's a good place for more general conversations, that.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Nuance is more appropriate for an internal community publication, opinion
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: piece ap it because then it can be says a
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: little more.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: And I do agree with them on a lot of things.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: I agree with them. When he says queer carries an
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: adversarial charge, an adversarial charge that gay does not. I
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: agree with that. When you hear the word queer, it
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: I bristle still a little bit, you know, I do,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: because that word. I know we've taken it back and
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: put it in the LGBTQ. I know we've taken it back,
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: but when I hear it, I still hear the fifth
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: grade bully yelling at me. In nineteen seventy five, you know,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: calling me queer, I don't. I don't hear a word
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: that we have taken back. Now. I do remember Queer
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Nation in the night course. I remember Queer Nation in
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: the nineties, and I was a part of it. It
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: was an aide organization and and gay rights and they
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: use that word specifically to trigger emotion, you know what
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: I mean when they they wanted the backlash from the word.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: But he's arguing that now, you know, the word has
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: been seen as a word with advantages, the advantages I
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: can say I'm quar without saying I'm gay or by
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: or trans, and then people will never know exactly what
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I am. And he says that's where it becomes problematic,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: that they need to know exactly what you are. You know,
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: so interesting editorial, but I do. I do just want
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: to say, I have seen a lot of people trying
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: to split the letters apart, and I don't like that.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: All right, I am carel He is Scott Jacobson in
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: a fucking active live war zones with alerts going off
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: on his phone and the machinery blowing up outside, and
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: yet here he is he's talking about stay safe, gets
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: the baptub and sometimes you're gonna have to tell me
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: about the evil, mean man you found.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: It's from a completely different blue view.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: You'll