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Best of Chuck & Buck 12-29 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Let's get a sound strick.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, folks.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning lass ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 5: Ladies and gentleman.
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  Speaker 6: Hold six one guard from Brighton, Illanois and former high
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  Speaker 6: school basketball stand What in the hell does that mean?
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  Speaker 7: Jumped any conclusions?
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  Speaker 2: Not a god.
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  Speaker 7: You've got to lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 6: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
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  Speaker 8: I'm getting some bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
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  Speaker 8: just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.
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  Speaker 7: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 6: Five seven guard and a former college water polo and
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  Speaker 6: national champion.
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  Speaker 5: Has a lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 6: Ashley Ryan. Buck to you buy to Lado Casino Resort
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  Speaker 6: book and Quill see the Greek Draft King sports book
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  Speaker 6: where the action never stopped.
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  Speaker 7: Well, good Monday morning too. You welcome into the radio program.
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  Speaker 7: That's right, we are going live. You're on a frost
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  Speaker 7: brewed corselight. Choose Chill Monday. And when I say we
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  Speaker 7: we got the whole band back together. Ashley Ryan is here.
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  Speaker 7: Former Mariner Bucky Jacobson is here. My name is Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 7: We welcome you four hours coming your way will Monday
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  Speaker 7: morning Quarterback. It from now until ten o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 7: Hugh Mellon coming your way at eight o'clock to talk
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  Speaker 7: some Seahawks football, Mike Holmgern at nine o'clock, and normally
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  Speaker 7: Greg Bell joins us at seven oh five, but we're
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  Speaker 7: gonna jump right to it. We got to get Cinderella
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  Speaker 7: to the ball. He's a he is on a he
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  Speaker 7: is in Carolina getting ready to fly back. And so
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  Speaker 7: Greg Bell is joining us early today because we got
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  Speaker 7: to make sure we check in with our Seahawks insiders.
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  Speaker 7: So we welcome mister Bell.
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  Speaker 6: With a bell tolls. It must be seven o'clock and
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  Speaker 6: time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell. Brought to
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  Speaker 6: only with Coppola Diamond Forseeco. Now with twelfth Man News,
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  Speaker 6: here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Buck.
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  Speaker 7: Come on in, Greg, good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm Ricky Henderson. Ricky Henderson is Ricky Henderson for
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  Speaker 3: you today?
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you are literally leading off the show. So
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  Speaker 7: we expect a home run or a walk? Which one
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  Speaker 7: are you going to give.
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  Speaker 3: Us, Ricky Anderson? It's a home run, walker a strakeout.
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  Speaker 7: If you walk, just know you've got to steal second
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  Speaker 7: and third in order for you to you know, justify
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  Speaker 7: this thing. Well, it's good to have you with us.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sure that you're getting ready to board the plane.
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  Speaker 7: So let's get in as much conversation as we can
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  Speaker 7: about the Seahawks twenty seven to ten winners over the
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  Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers yesterday to move to thirteen and three on
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  Speaker 7: the season. Offense at times looked ugly, Greg, but the
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  Speaker 7: defense was just phenomenal. I mean, you just don't see
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  Speaker 7: NFL teams hold opponents to one hundred and thirty nine
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  Speaker 7: total yards of offense. And so where does it start
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  Speaker 7: with you? Is it concern about the offense or just
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  Speaker 7: how impressed you are with what Mike McDonald did to
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  Speaker 7: the Panthers yesterday defensively?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's the defense, Chuck. This is a super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: caliber defense. The concern, of course, is whether Sam Donald
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  Speaker 3: continuing to give the ball away will subvert the Super
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  Speaker 3: Bowl caliber defense. But we saw with the Rams in
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  Speaker 3: the ten days before when they absolutely had to be
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  Speaker 3: on the defense. Was three consecutive three and out stops
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  Speaker 3: to get the Seahawks back in that game and rallying
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  Speaker 3: at sixteen points down, Donald able to rally them. And
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  Speaker 3: then yesterday the game began as I thought it was.
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  Speaker 3: I had a feeling the three day layoffs last week,
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  Speaker 3: rare Thursday off for Christmas, the East Coast trip at ten,
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  Speaker 3: and that it was going to be a slog for
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  Speaker 3: them to start out with what it was three three
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  Speaker 3: and a half. I then the defense just takes over.
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  Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence may be the best player on the team
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  Speaker 3: right now, and he took the game over, ripping the
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  Speaker 3: ball from Hubbard and covering the fumble that set up
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  Speaker 3: the first touchdown that really got the Seahawks bowing. And
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  Speaker 3: then Julian Love on the first third down after that,
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  Speaker 3: just baiting Bryce Young into an interception up the field.
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  Speaker 3: They thought Ted McMillan was wide open and he was
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  Speaker 3: anything but Beca's Love knew where the ball was going
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  Speaker 3: to go. Donald to Barnard. They convert that into a
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  Speaker 3: second touchdown, a fourth down stop because Mafaam Lawrence got
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  Speaker 3: the sacks. Fourth down stop turns into the third touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: The three touchdowns were directly because of the Seahawks defense.
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  Speaker 3: They can win a Super Bowl with the way their
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  Speaker 3: defense is playing, yes, including Sunday night, so Saturday night
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  Speaker 3: at San Francisco. But I still have big concerns. And
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  Speaker 3: if I'm a Seahawks fan, I gotta think, can they
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  Speaker 3: really win and get to the Super Bowl with a
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  Speaker 3: quarterback who leads the NFL with twenty turnovers and keeps
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  Speaker 3: giving the ball away? That's the big concern. The running
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  Speaker 3: game is now going Sharbone with his second career one
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  Speaker 3: hundred yard game yesterday, one hundred and seventy plus yards
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  Speaker 3: on the ground. But the defense is where they're winning.
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  Speaker 3: I mean fifty four yard fifty three yards passing for
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  Speaker 3: Bryce yard. Guys, that's the most completed twenty four plus
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  Speaker 3: pass attempts to the completions of whatever. It was so
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  Speaker 3: early in the morning here in these and only fifty
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  Speaker 3: three yards is that's the fewest yards for that many
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  Speaker 3: pass attempts since nineteen eighty David Woodley remember him? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's the last time a quarterback threw that often, we
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  Speaker 3: got that fewer yards against the defense. They can win
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  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl with their defense.
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  Speaker 8: Well, there's no doubt their defense ge is something else,
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  Speaker 8: and they went out in there and showed it. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: it'll be curious. I'll be curious to see how it
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  Speaker 8: pans out against the Niners. I think, you know, they
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  Speaker 8: just as a team offensively are better than the Panthers.
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  Speaker 8: And yet the Panthers, you know, we're right there fighting
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  Speaker 8: for a spot in the playoffs as well. So when
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  Speaker 8: it comes to Sam Darnold and giving the ball away,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, he's had some he's had some bad plays obviously,
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  Speaker 8: and yet he's had some bad luck in some too
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  Speaker 8: where you know, in that fumble to some degree was
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  Speaker 8: a hand going forward or not. You know, it's debatable
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  Speaker 8: for sure, but the one down in the end zone,
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  Speaker 8: you're basically taking points off the board.
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  Speaker 2: Well it didn't work out that.
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  Speaker 8: Way because of the turnover and score right bang bang
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  Speaker 8: right after that. But I mean that to me was
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  Speaker 8: one of the bigger ones of you can't make that mistake.
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  Speaker 8: That's part of the reason that I think they shipped
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  Speaker 8: Geno Smith out of here, was turning the ball over
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  Speaker 8: when you're already down there in the red zone. So
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  Speaker 8: how bad was that play in particular?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you're right, there's a field goal in hand
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  Speaker 3: there for the lead. You throw that ball either out
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  Speaker 3: of the end zone or to where only Smiths and
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  Speaker 3: jig But can get it. And the defensive back Mike
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  Speaker 3: Jackson had the position on an overthrow, so if anything,
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  Speaker 3: if he underthrew that, he had a better chance to
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  Speaker 3: have a touchdown. And if you're going to overthrow it,
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  Speaker 3: you got to overthrow it out back to the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what he said after the game. I got
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  Speaker 3: to either put it where Smith and Jigwick can get
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  Speaker 3: it or nobody can get it in and stanc complete.
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  Speaker 3: But to play for the field goal, that's particularly going.
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  Speaker 3: I would argue that Donald is lucky. He should have
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  Speaker 3: had two more interceptions in the first half. He should
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  Speaker 3: have had an interception on the first drive of the
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  Speaker 3: game when he he had a sharpon a checkdown and
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  Speaker 3: he ignored him and he rolled out away from pressure
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  Speaker 3: to the left and threw the ball off a helmet.
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  Speaker 3: How many times have we seen him throw a ball
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  Speaker 3: off a helmet off a defender this year? That's at
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  Speaker 3: least three times a Tampa Bay game, with the interception
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  Speaker 3: being one of them that ended up losing the game
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  Speaker 3: because of it. They lost the opener because Donald gave
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  Speaker 3: the ball away in the red zone with ten seconds
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  Speaker 3: left in a four point game. The defense has made
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  Speaker 3: it so it hasn't bitten them enough, but it has
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  Speaker 3: bitten them, including against the forty nine ers. I wrote
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  Speaker 3: for the Newstribute this morning or last night. Can they
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  Speaker 3: win this way? And I have been asking this for
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  Speaker 3: weeks and the answer is yes they can. But can
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  Speaker 3: they win this way against the forty nine ers? Can
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  Speaker 3: they win this way in the NFC title game? Can
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  Speaker 3: they win this game way on the road in the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs if they have to go there? If they lose
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday night in San Francisco. Those are the questions
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  Speaker 3: that McDonald after the game. I asked them about the tournaments.
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  Speaker 3: How concerned are you with Donald's turnovers? And he said, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it is about the ball, beat and jeopardy. We have
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  Speaker 3: to be better earlier in plays and what he means
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  Speaker 3: by that is past protection, hot reads, the quarterback going
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  Speaker 3: for the hot reads rather than extending the play, and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes just the defense having a better play call than
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  Speaker 3: Kalle Kubiak and the offense has. But it's got their attention.
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  Speaker 3: It's the one chink in their armor. It's the one
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  Speaker 3: Achilles heel to Seattle right now. Otherwise this is a
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  Speaker 3: bona FID number one seed home Field super Bowl too.
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  Speaker 3: Except for that.
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  Speaker 7: One hundred and sixty three yards rushing yesterday, Zach Charbonay
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  Speaker 7: maybe his best game as a Seahawk yet. Man, it
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  Speaker 7: just felt like a day where Ken Walker just wasn't
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  Speaker 7: going where the play was designed. And I know that's
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  Speaker 7: been a hit against him for a long period of time.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you're getting ready to play the biggest regular
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  Speaker 7: season game of the year with the number one seed
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  Speaker 7: on the line, and then the playoffs to follow. Is
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  Speaker 7: there a chance Zach Sharbonay is wrestling away the starting
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  Speaker 7: job from Ken Walker here at this crucial point in
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  Speaker 7: the year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yesterday he did because they just steed up riding
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  Speaker 3: hot hand. Once Sharbonay took off for twenty nine yards
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  Speaker 3: in the first half, you could see they were going
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  Speaker 3: to go mostly to him, and they did in the
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  Speaker 3: second half. Again, Walker didn't have anywhere to run a
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  Speaker 3: lot of times when he's running away from the design
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  Speaker 3: calls because there's two or three defenders waiting on him
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  Speaker 3: as soon as he gets the ball. He still had
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  Speaker 3: some remarkable one and two yard runs yesterday. McDonald's saying
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  Speaker 3: all the right things about how Walker's really playing well,
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  Speaker 3: doing everything we ask of him. He's not getting blocking
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  Speaker 3: and opportunities at times. It will be interesting to see
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  Speaker 3: how the carrier split against San Francisco. But guys, I
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  Speaker 3: think last night again showed and the Colts, even with
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  Speaker 3: the Grandpa Philip rivers the week before, this forty nine
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  Speaker 3: or defense is not the one it even began this year,
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  Speaker 3: and not the one of previous years. No Fred Warner,
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  Speaker 3: no Nick Bosa, no pass rush. They've got holes in
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  Speaker 3: the secondary. War doesn't play for him anymore. Upton Stout
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  Speaker 3: got hurt last night. The Seahawks are going to score.
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  Speaker 3: They just don't give the ball over and I think
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  Speaker 3: they went on Saturday night in Santa Clara. They're gonna
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  Speaker 3: score whether it's Walker or Charbona is the lead back.
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  Speaker 3: There are holes in that secondary, and I really think
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  Speaker 3: this could be a huge passing night for Kubiak and
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  Speaker 3: Darnold again if he just doesn't get the ball away.
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  Speaker 2: How about the concern.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, we don't have we kind of a shorter
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  Speaker 8: week with New Year's even New Year's Day coming around,
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  Speaker 8: So I'm already gonna ask you one about the Niner.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just no doubt.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, they kept him in check, and I mean they
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  Speaker 8: kept the defense, kept the Panthers offense. I mean obviously
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  Speaker 8: just not doing just about anything. And yet there was
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  Speaker 8: a few different times where he was running and getting
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  Speaker 8: some nice little chunks of yards. I mean, now you're
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  Speaker 8: gonna have Christian McCaffrey and Kyle shann ain't coming out there.
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  Speaker 8: So any concern about the offense maybe trying to get
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  Speaker 8: into a shootout with his team.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, A lot of concerned with Christian McCaffrey. They
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  Speaker 3: held him down in the first game and that was
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  Speaker 3: with Trent Williams healthy. Williams could barely walk last night
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  Speaker 3: for the forty nine Ers, didn't play a hamstring injury.
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  Speaker 3: The short week doesn't help him in the forty nine
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  Speaker 3: ers offense. Last night after the game, Kyle Shanahan was saying,
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  Speaker 3: pretty much whining about having another short week. Well, it's
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  Speaker 3: not as short a week as the Seahawks have because
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  Speaker 3: they just got home late last night early this morning.
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  Speaker 3: You say it's a short week, no New Year's even
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  Speaker 3: news day going, Well, it's for something that's true. But
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  Speaker 3: for the Seahawks, they're going to roll right through its
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  Speaker 3: starting today because of the shorter week, and they'll be
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  Speaker 3: practicing on New Year's even New Year's Day. It'll be
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  Speaker 3: interesting now because of the shorter week to see if
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  Speaker 3: the guys who missed, including the starting left tackle Charles
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  Speaker 3: Cross Kobe Bryant has safety. Although Tyre Coup put really
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  Speaker 3: well yesterday, especially in tackling, can those guys get back
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  Speaker 3: on the shorter week. Crosses injury the hamstring, We've talked
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  Speaker 3: about it not an injury to come back on short time.
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  Speaker 3: This might be another game that Josh Jones starts at
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  Speaker 3: left tackle, so they can give another week and they
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  Speaker 3: hope too if they win with a buy to give
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  Speaker 3: Charles Cross time off for that hamstring. But to answer
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  Speaker 3: your question, yeah, Christian McCaffrey is always a problem and
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  Speaker 3: always a problem against Seattle in the pass game. He's
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  Speaker 3: got a thousand yards they can eat rushing and receiving
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  Speaker 3: or damn near close. That's a concern for Seattle's defense.
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  Speaker 3: They got to start McCaffrey's runs early down so that
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  Speaker 3: it's third and longer for Brock Perdy. In the forty
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  Speaker 3: nine ers offense, Perdy and the Niners are going to
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  Speaker 3: go that deep middle of the field like they did
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  Speaker 3: last night against Chicago, like the Rams exploited the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: with in two games ago. Kyle Shanahan, I think that's
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  Speaker 3: where the game plan is gonna start. You can do
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  Speaker 3: that if you're running the ball and getting effective shorter
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  Speaker 3: third downs so that the pass us doesn't affect you.
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  Speaker 3: Do Seahawks have a chance at it's longer third downs,
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  Speaker 3: which means stopped McCaffery early.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, far more aesthetically a pleasing of a game last
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  Speaker 7: night that the forty nine Ers played than the ugly
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  Speaker 7: thing that you watched Charlotte yesterday. So I think the
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  Speaker 7: Zigg's gonna have to ugly it up if they're gonna
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  Speaker 7: win this game, and they're very good at that. So
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  Speaker 7: we shall see how big of a play now in
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  Speaker 7: hindsight was the J. C. Horn penalty. I mean, Carolina
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  Speaker 7: seemed to have all the momentum in the game at
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  Speaker 7: that moment, and so Seahawks end up winning it by
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  Speaker 7: seventeen points. But how big of a play in hindsight
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  Speaker 7: was that face mask penalty on JC Horn.
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  Speaker 3: Well, even at the time it was seventeen ten. You're right,
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  Speaker 3: the building was allowed for their own time in the game,
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  Speaker 3: although there was a lot of Seahawks fens there yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: But it was seventeen ten late third quarter on a
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  Speaker 3: third down. Really savvy played by Jackson Smith and Jigba
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  Speaker 3: a veteran play. He made sure he snapped his head
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  Speaker 3: back when the hand got on the face mask by
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  Speaker 3: Horn and then made sure the officials saw the face
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  Speaker 3: mask as he ran down out of bounds, well short
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  Speaker 3: of the line to gain I think it was thirty
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  Speaker 3: to twenty at the time. I thought that might just
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  Speaker 3: be a five yard face mask, but Smith and jigb
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  Speaker 3: really sold it. I mean like an Italian soccer player
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  Speaker 3: sold it. Went to his knees, just looked like he'd
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  Speaker 3: been shot. The officials decided it was fifteen. Smith and
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  Speaker 3: Jigba knew in that interm well he was laying on
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  Speaker 3: the ground, rolling around like he was looking for a
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  Speaker 3: red card, that the officials are trying to decide between
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  Speaker 3: five and fifteen a five yard penalty. They don't get
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  Speaker 3: the first down there fifteen automatic first down with the
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  Speaker 3: personal foul. That's what the officials ended up flagging. That
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  Speaker 3: was a Tyler Lockett like cell job by Jackson. I
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  Speaker 3: don't say I didn't say that that he didn't get
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  Speaker 3: his face mask grab, but he may sure made it
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  Speaker 3: look like it was the worst face mask grab in
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  Speaker 3: the history of the Seahawks franchise. Hey right, that was
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  Speaker 3: the that was Carolina's last chance. Looking back, they never
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  Speaker 3: got closer than that. But credit Smiths and Jigua, who,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, said another NFL mark yesterday. He's got
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  Speaker 3: seventeen hundred yards. He's the youngest, he's under twenty four still,
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  Speaker 3: and he joins Justin Jefferson as one of only three
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  Speaker 3: players in NFL history to get a seventeen hundred yards
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  Speaker 3: season before his twenty fourth birthday. Man, is he about
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  Speaker 3: to get a buttload of money this offseason. He's going
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  Speaker 3: in the final year of his contract next year. That's
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  Speaker 3: when the Seahawks always re up him. We're talking perhaps
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  Speaker 3: a two hundred million dollar deal for the NFL's leading receiver.
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  Speaker 7: Well, he needs the two thousand yards receiving this year,
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  Speaker 7: which means nearly three hundred Saturday against the forty nine Ors.
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  Speaker 7: So I think that should be a stated goal. Yeah, yeah, quick,
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  Speaker 7: fifteen seconds on this Rashid Shaheed, any update on the concussion.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the concussion protocol. This is another bad week
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  Speaker 3: in a short week, six games days between games for
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  Speaker 3: him to come back. That's a loss. That guy could
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: break games and special teams. I was talking to Jay
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  Speaker 3: Harbo about that last week. Harbo said, he makes shit,
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  Speaker 3: makes a lot of their schemes look great. Plus he's
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  Speaker 3: taken defenses off of Smiths and Jigbit with the way
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  Speaker 3: he can mum in the middle of the field. That's
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  Speaker 3: a big loss of the Yuks and it doesn't look
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  Speaker 3: good on the six day rest of shah he can
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  Speaker 3: come back from a concussion.
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  Speaker 7: All right, Well, it's gonna be a fun week a preview,
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  Speaker 7: no question about it. This is what it's all about.
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  Speaker 7: Save travels on your way back from Charlotte. And thank
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  Speaker 7: you very much for taking time this morning to make
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  Speaker 7: this work.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Thanks for flexing.
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: Talk to you all week.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: Greg Bell's flexing flexing on you out there with all
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: his great information and insight. Seahawks winning over the Carolina
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: Panthers twenty seven to ten. Our segment with Greg Bell
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  Speaker 7: normally conducted at seven oh five, but he had to
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  Speaker 7: come on early today to make his flight in Charlotte
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  Speaker 7: in a little different way than we normally are on
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  Speaker 7: a Monday. Let's find out what is on tap for
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: the rest of the show. What's on TEP, what's on top?
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: That's Monday? What do you think is on tab? It's
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: Monday morning, Quarterback Day. Hu Millan will be with us
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: at eight o'clock, Mike Homgern'll be with us at nine o'clock,
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: and instead of Greg, we'll get to sink our teeth
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: into this twenty seven to ten Seahawks winner with the
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers at seven oh five this morning, and then
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: we won't go too far away from beginning the preview
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  Speaker 7: of Seahawks forty nine Ers because that's what is on deck.
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  Speaker 7: So they have set the schedule. This might be I
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: don't know, if you're early morning people, you know you're
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: up at six o'clock listening to the radio program and all.
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: You might not have seen this, but you're a Seahawks fan,
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: so you probably did. Seahawks will be playing the forty
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  Speaker 7: nine ers this week Saturday at five o'clock. So they
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: flexed the entire last weekend of the regular season in
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: the National Football League, and they always flex it to
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: highlight those games that have everything on the line. So
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: the Sunday night game is going to be Baltimore at Pittsburgh.
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: Winner takes the division gets in the playoffs, the losers
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  Speaker 7: completely out. Won't be the same situation obviously when we
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: take on the forty nine ers, but there's enough at
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: play here. It's a great enough of a rivalry that
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: they they do want to showcase it. And so Saturday night,
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks and the forty nine ers will play at
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: five o'clock and the division just playing simple the division
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  Speaker 7: championship and the number one seeds on the line, who
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  Speaker 7: ever wins that game gets the number one seed.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's a playoff game, but it's not
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  Speaker 8: the one and done type of playoff game, and it's
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  Speaker 8: it's a big one you get not just to win
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  Speaker 8: the division, more so to get that number one seed.
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  Speaker 8: I think both of them are going to be going
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  Speaker 8: out there fighting hard to figure out who can come
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  Speaker 8: out on top of this thing. It's crazy to think
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  Speaker 8: that the Rams at this point don't have a chance
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  Speaker 8: at the number one seed, and yet the Niners still do.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, And the Rams will be playing tonight Monday
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  Speaker 7: Night Football. I mean, they can still finish ahead of
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: the forty nine Ers and the divisional standings, but as
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: the way the tiebreaker goes, it's a head to head
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: swarm and if the forty nine Ers were to win Saturday,
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: that means that they would have the better head to
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  Speaker 7: head record against the three teams if they ended up
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  Speaker 7: with the same record in the NFC West, And so
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  Speaker 7: the forty nine win the division, win the number one seed,
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  Speaker 7: so the Rams have no shot at it at this stage.
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  Speaker 7: So that's how that cookie has crumbled Carolina. Now with
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  Speaker 7: the loss of the Seahawks, they still have a shot
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: at getting into the playoffs. They got a couple of
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: ways of getting in. We'll go over both of them
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  Speaker 7: a little bit later on, but the cleanest way is
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: just to beat Tampa Bay Saturday, so the NFL will
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  Speaker 7: showcase that game as well at one thirty on Saturday afternoon.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: Both of those games will be on ABC. All right,
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  Speaker 7: College football playoff that resumes on Wednesday at four point
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  Speaker 7: thirty with Miami versus Ohio State, and then three games
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: will be played Thursday on New Year's Day. Kraken have
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: now won four straight. They defeated the Philadelphia Flyers last
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: night four to one. They'll try to make it five
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: in a row tonight against Vancouver and that game will
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: start at seven o'clock at Climate Pledge Arena. And the
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: stove was quiet over the weekend, but the Mariners are
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: still being discussed as a team that is very interested
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: in making moves to add a bat before the offseason
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: comes to a close, so certainly worth monitoring. All Right,
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: we'll get a chance to dive into all of these
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  Speaker 7: stories at great length today, both with our experts and
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: amongst ourselves coming up on the show. But as we
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: typically provide on a Monday morning at six point thirty,
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: it's time for cold turkey sandwich. A board of scores.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: A look around the National Football League. Next on KJR,
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: Steven said, racing after it hel pocket free, Steven said.
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: Down the ice below the goal line, looked at frocks.
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  Speaker 2: Tandler.
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: Steven said, from below the goal line, tried to center it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: It goes off of Ellie Toland and into the goal.
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: It's a three nothing, Seattle cracking lead. Ellie Tolband has
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: points on back to back goals. Winning is fun. E Yeah,
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: those he just laughed. They were just laughing because Alan eff,
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: we just laughing. We are winning. They're like, this is
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: so easy. It wasn't long ago we were losing so much.
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: This is so much more fun. It's so much more fun.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: It's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Me.
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we are laughing.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: We are friends.
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: Do you remember two weeks ago when we were crying,
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: Good morning, happy Monday to you Live Sports Talk radio
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: for you here on this some Monday, and we are
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: back together. Ashley Ryan is here, Bucky Jacobson is here.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: My name is Chuck Powell. We've got you till ten
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: o'clock and almost everything we're going to talk about is
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: Seahawks are related. So let us just squeeze in our
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• 23:01
  Speaker 7: win four to one over the Philadelphia Flyers. They've won
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: four straight games. They will take on Vancouver tonight at
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: seven o'clock, so it is a game day for the
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: Cracking to try to make it five in a row,
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: and it will be at home against the rival Canucks.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: Hot stove and quiet over the weekend. But nonetheless, there
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: are some warm rumors out there about how Jerry Depoto
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: and Justin Hollander are you kicking a lot of tires
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: out there and trying to make another significant move for
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: a bat sometime soon and certainly before the offseason comes
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: to a close. So that's interesting. College football, the playoff
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: resumes Wednesday, New Year's Eve at four point thirty. The
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: first game will be Miami versus Ohio State and then
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: three games on New Year's Day. Kyle Whittingham, it was
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: a big cop topic of conversation between Ashley and I
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: on Friday show. We were just hearing that he had
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: been become the front runner for the job. Since that show,
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: he did get the job. So he is the new
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: head coach at Michigan, coming out of a very brief
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: retirement to become the next head coach of the Michigan Wolverine.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: Said Kyle, winning him, this is the last thing that
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: I setting out to achieve in my career is try
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: to win a national championship, and I've got a chance
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: to do that at Michigan. And then of course you've
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: got the National Football League. My goodness, at is wonderful theater?
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: Is it not? The National Football League? They do a
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: really good job of entertainments.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: They've figured out.
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: I would think the formula somehow of how to script
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: all these games too be so great.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, yes, exactly. Seahawks win over the Carolina Panthers twenty
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  Speaker 7: seven to ten. Unfortunately, it wasn't that easy. If not
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: for Mike McDonald's defense, this could have been a problem yesterday.
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: But we do have Mike McDonald's defense. They held the
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  Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers to US one hundred and forty three total
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  Speaker 7: yards of offense and then created a couple of turnovers
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  Speaker 7: which led to some pretty easy drives and the Seahawks
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  Speaker 7: win at twenty seven to ten. They improved to thirteen
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  Speaker 7: and three, tying a franchise record for most wins in
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  Speaker 7: a regular season. They have a chance to break that
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  Speaker 7: record on Saturday night, wrap up the division and get
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  Speaker 7: the number one seed in the entire NFC playoffs, which
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: is more important today than ever since they've expanded to
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: fourteen teams. That one seed not only gets home field
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  Speaker 7: advantage throughout the NFC playoffs, they don't have to play
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: in the first round at all when everyone else does.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: And so it's huge and the showcase will be in
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: Santa Clara. It'll be the Seahawks versus the forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 7: who also won yesterday over the Chicago Bears forty two
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  Speaker 7: to thirty eight in a shootout, and so the winner
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: of this game will win the division and will take
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  Speaker 7: the number one seed. It's as simple as that. They
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: have earmarked the game for Saturday at five o'clock so
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: that it can have the entire National Stage two itself,
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  Speaker 7: Shox forty nine ers don't get the Sunday night game
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: that'll belong to Baltimore and Pittsburgh. That kickoff will take
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: place at five point twenty, the last game of the
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  Speaker 7: regular season. The winner of that game gets into the
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: playoffs as division champs. The loser is out completely. Carolina
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: and Tampa also will be showcased Saturday afternoon is their game.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: The winner of that game likely moves on. Now there
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: is a wrinkle that if Atlanta wins out, that Carolina
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: can lose and still win the division. Oh yes, so
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: that would require the Falcons to win both because that
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: means all three teams are eight to nine. The Falcons
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: have already been eliminated, but the tiebreaker changes. If there's
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: a three way tie, that the tie breaker would go
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  Speaker 7: to Carolina. So there is a chance that Tampa could
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: win that game and still not win the division because
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: Tampa lost yesterday to Miami. So a lot going on
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: certainly in the National Football League, But our focus the Seahawks.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: We certainly are going to talk about their matchup with
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: the forty nine ers with both of our experts, Hugh
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: Millen and Mike Homgrin in the eight o'clock and nine
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  Speaker 7: o'clock hours today, But we haven't even had a chance
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  Speaker 7: to sink our teeth in to this Seahawks win over
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: the Carolina Panthers as a show. So we're going to
• 27:32
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  Speaker 7: Seahawks get it done. And look, I realized there, I mean,
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: I realize how much more aesthetically pleasing that forty two
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  Speaker 7: to thirty eight seems. And I don't know why we
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  Speaker 7: do this, but we just automatically assume that the teams
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  Speaker 7: that make offense look easy are the better teams, when
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  Speaker 7: often that is not the case. I mean, a couple
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  Speaker 7: of years ago, we were sure the Mariners were a
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: bad team. A lot we weren't, but a lot of
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: people were sure the Mariners were a bad team because
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: they won with pitching and they couldn't score any runs
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: and they still almost made the playoffs. And they were
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: never a bad team, they just weren't all that aesthetically
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: pleasing because they were so offensively challenged. I don't think
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks are an offensively challenged team. The statistics over
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: the course of sixteen games bear out that they are not,
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: but certainly they were yesterday. To me, that was Sam
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: Donald's biggest struggle. I know he threw four interceptions against
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: the Rams earlier this year, but he had a lot
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: of big plays in that game. Yesterday. It felt like
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: a struggle from beginning to end for the first time
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  Speaker 7: for Sam Donald in a Seahawk uniform. And yet, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: I was glad to hear Coach Bucky say this. Maybe
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: Bucky'll disagree with coach, but when Coach Bucky said, you know,
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  Speaker 7: when we're starting to talk about the forty nine ers,
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: it's very easy, I think to go to forty nine
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  Speaker 7: ers looked better last night. They're playing better, They're hot.
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  Speaker 7: That's what a real one seed looks like, considering how
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: much the Seahawks kind of clunked things offensively. But I'm
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: glad that it wasn't missed on you, and I hope
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: it's not missed on a lot of other people. There
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: are a lot of different ways to win in the
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: National Football League, and you can win it all with
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: dominant defense and timely offense, and what we saw from
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks yesterday was about as dominant a defensive performance
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: as you can see in the National Football League against
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: a starting quarterback. I mean, maybe you see that against
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: a backup or a third stringer because you're at the
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: end of the year and they're down two quarterbacks. But
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: that was against Bryce Young, who's been lauded this year
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: for how much he's improved, and the Seahawks held them
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  Speaker 7: to one hundred and forty three yards of total offense
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  Speaker 7: in the game. And when it was clear that Sam
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: was struggling, what did they do. We're gonna take the
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: ball away on consecutive Carolina Panthers possessions, set them up
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: on a short field, and we're gonna we got you. Sam.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: You're not playing your best right now, but don't worry
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: about it. We're not gonna let this game get away
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: from us. And they just absolutely took it from Carolina.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, I've seen a lot of quarterbacks, including Matt Stafford,
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: look confused against Mike McDonald's defense. Bryce Young took the
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: cake yesterday. It looked like he had never played football
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: at times during that game yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, coming into that game.
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: It was you kind I mean, I don't know how
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: everybody else felt coming into it. When you think of
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: the Panthers, they're one of those head scratchers, like they'll
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: go out there and beat a good team. They got
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: swept by the New Orleans Saints. Now, maybe the Saints
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: are better since they got the Tyler shuck out in there,
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: and they were horrible at the beginning of the season.
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: So I'll, you know, give them a little bit of
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: credit to the fact that they beat them. But I
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: don't think of the Carolina Panthers as I mean, ultimately,
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: I still kind of think the Rams are the cream
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: of the crop. I mean, they end up going out
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: there and putting what thirty seven points up against the
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: Seahawks defense. That's the first game. He did look somewhat confused.
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: He did look like, whoa, what in the heck is
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: he doing? He made the adjustments that it took a
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: whole heck of a lot of things to bounce the
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: way of the Seahawks for them to put themselves in
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: a position they're in right now. But yeah, I think
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: that there still is the Seahawks defense is legit. I
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: don't think it's anything you have to say, well, you
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: gave up thirty seven points to the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: That means you're not good.
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: No, that's a credit to the Rams and the fact
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: that Matthew Stafford and pukin Nakua they can put it
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: on you regardless of who or how good your defense is.
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: I just think when it comes to the Niners, I
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: don't think their defense poses the threat to be much
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: of an issue for the Seahawks offense. So I can
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: see the Seahawks offense going out there and scoring close
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: to thirty against them, and yet I do I have
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: a hard time thinking that.
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  Speaker 2: Their offense is.
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  Speaker 8: Good enough to score thirty against the Seahawks, even though
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: I think the Rams are.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I think the Rams offense is different. I don't think this.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: I mean, the Niners have Christian McCaffrey, and they have
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: figured out a way to get the ball to a
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: couple other guys, and Rock Perty's playing good football. But
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: I don't feel like they're gonna go out there and
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: put thirty on the Seahawks. And so they do need
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: to kind of make it a little bit ugly to
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: where they're not going out there and putting up big
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: numbers offensively.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: And I think they win it.
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  Speaker 9: I think the Rams are a more balanced team, just
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: offensively and defensively. Defensively, they're a better team. But I
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: was watching that game last night thinking, well, I think
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: our defense could I mean, the forty nine ers offense
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: is good, but I didn't see anything spectacular that I thought,
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: you know, our defense could handle. Obviously, Christian McCaffrey is scary,
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: but we have done pretty well in at least slowing
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: down the run from I mean, Jon Robinson didn't get
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: one hundred yards and he was pretty scary. So we'll see.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, yeah, we'll talk more about Seahawks forty nine
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: ers here in a moment. But yes, just a dominant
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: defensive performance for the Seahawks against the Carolina Panthers yesterday.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: And then that leads you to, all right, so what
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: are we looking at offensively? I mean, we've been talking
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: about this turnover issue with Sam donald all year long.
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: We know the statistics, we're reminded of them all the time,
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: ab how often he's turned it over, and that typically
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: is a dangerous thing. Hugh and I had a lengthy
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: conversation about Sam Donaldson and x's and o's on Friday.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: We're both in the let it rip department. With Mike McDonald,
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, I want Sam Donald to play aggressively. I
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: don't want him to play like that yesterday. I mean,
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: that was a poor performance and he had the two turnovers,
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: but he probably should have had four in the contest.
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: And so I will agree with the sentiment that you're
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: not gonna win in the tournament if you're going to
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: be minus three turnovers like you were against the Rams
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: and the last game and that crazy comeback. All right,
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: you pulled it off one time, You're not going to
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: be able to do that against the best competition that
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: the world has to offer in consecutive games, three games
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: in a row, or maybe four games in a row.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: God forbid that you would have to play. So he's
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: got to tighten it up. There's no question. The trick
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: to it is tighten it up without sacrificing who you are.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: And that was sloppy yesterday. That was sloppy from Sam.
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: That's the that's the first time where I'm just like, man,
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: you know, that was a Geno Smith interception in the
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: red zone getting picked off by Mike Jackson. And then
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: there was the I realized that the crazy fumble play
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: was weird, but man, you just he turned it into a,
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: to use your word, a fiasco, including tackling a three
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: d and fifty pounds defensive tackle with his throwing shoulder
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: who didn't even have the ball at the time. I mean,
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: he did not play well enough yesterday. And I hope
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: that that is just an isolated incident against the Carolina Panthers,
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: because I don't want to believe that Sam Donald has
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: a turnover issue, but there's no question this is now
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: a couple games in a row where he's turned the
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: ball off over too frequently. I think he's played his
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: sloppiest here in the last couple of weeks. And you're
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: not gonna be able to get away with that in
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: an NFL tournament, not against the best competition in the world,
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: not four games in a row.
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: No, I mean yeah, because I think your defense can
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: put it on somebody like Bryce Young and make him
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: look futile. And I mean the second that they scored
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: the touchdown to put him up what was a ten
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: to three, I thought, well that's over.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think that.
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: I don't think the Panthers are going to be able
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: to even match the ten let alone more than ten,
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: and it did kind of come out that way where
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: it's kind of a walk away. But I'm with you,
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: it's you're going to run into an offense somewhere along
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: the line. Could be the Rams, could be any team
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: out there that is going to be able to put
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: up so points and so you can't have won the
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: costly turnovers that literally take points off the board. Maybe literally,
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: but the idea of you have at least three points
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: kind of in the bag, especially with your kicker and
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: you're throwing that interception, you're.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Not gonna be able to have that.
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: Fumbles are gonna happen at times when you're when it's
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: blind side and the guy hits your arm, that's gonna happen.
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: Some of his interceptions have been good passes that clank
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: off hands and go into defenders. So I think that
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: Hugh does a good job explaining it. We all discuss
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: it where it's like that wasn't that bad, but like
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: that one down in the end zone, that's not good.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Bad, Yeah, that's not good.
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: There's times when he does make mistakes, and now I
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: think that there's two ways of looking at these things.
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: Sometimes where it's like, okay, you got a good defense,
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: just don't turn the ball over. Just don't give them
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: short fields to make your defense's job more difficult. Make
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: them drive the whole length of the field. But the
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: offense is also good enough at times where it's like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: let it rip. And if at times you make a
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: pass down the field and it's a turnover and they
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: get the ball at their own thirty yard line, we.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Feel okay about that, you know what I mean.
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: So it's like, don't turn the ball over when you
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: have points on the board, don't turn the ball over
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: when you're backed up against your own end zone where
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: essentially they automatically have points on the board. But all
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: of that between the twenties, let that thing rip. But
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: if it all of a sudden bounces off your guy
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: and is an interception or they they disguise it and
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: trick your quarterback, because out of five hundred pass attempts
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: over the course of the season, you're gonna get tricked.
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: Sometimes Tom Brady would get tricked. Sometimes there's nobody that
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: doesn't get tricked at times, and so to me, it's
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: let it rip at certain times, but then be situationally aware,
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: make sure you're not doing make sure you're not putting
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: the ball at risk when you know by bad decisions.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: The ball can be at risk at times, just with
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: with you know, elements or you know, slippery ball, or
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: it goes off your receiver's hands or something. But don't
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: make bad decisions and put the ball at risk when
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: you're down getting ready to score, or when you're backed
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: up against your end zone and giving them easy points.
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: Well, and it did seem like, at least in the
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: first half, some of those were like the amount of
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: batted balls, those were bad decisions. It was like, how
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: do you not see the defensive person in between you
• 38:07
  Speaker 9: and the person you're trying to throw it to. And
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: so I do think he got lucky with the fact
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: that he didn't have as many turnovers. I mean, there
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: was a how many times were you guys sitting there
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: watching it? Oh, okay, he got away with one, And
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: so it is definitely a concern. But I also think
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: just offensively, it seemed like we were playing very conservatively
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: and very afraid to turn the ball over. We were
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: playing I don't know that's how I felt.
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: I don't think I feel that way, and that look
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: the bad there's a batted ball issue. I mean, we'll
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: need Hugh and coach to tell us you know how
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: to fix that. Yeah, because I don't know what I mean.
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: It's just a jungle of six foot six inch guy's
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: arms and limbs that are that are right there. It's
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: not like he's five to nine trying to throw over
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: a wall of humanity. I mean, I don't know what
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: you can do about it. But once it gets to
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: the point where it's happening four or five times a game,
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: you know, then it needs to be addressed. Look, I
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: think that I think Bucky's got the right of it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: I do want them to let it rip, but there
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: are times I need you to be a little more conservative.
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: I will happily live with Sam Darnold finishing minus one
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: in the turnover battle the entire tournament. You want to
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: tell me that I'll take minus one in every single
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: game in the tournament turnover ratio, yes, please. But I
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: don't want minus two. I certainly don't want minus three.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: Even though they won minus three against what we're discussing
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: might be the best team in the National Football League,
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: the Los Angeles Rams. They had minus three and won
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: that game, so they're so much good to great about
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: this Seahawks team. They have a great defense, they have
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: great special teams, they have a great number one wide receiver,
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: and so you when you can make up for a
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: turnover and a half per game, I think I think
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: you're good enough overall to do that. But you can't
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: sit there and lose by minus two, not in the playoffs,
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: and so just the carelessness. Just shore up the carelessness
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: without it affecting your aggressiveness. That to me is gonna
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: be the sweet spot on whether or not the Seahawks
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: are in the super Bowl this year, or or if
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: they were talking about a disappointing season at the end
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: of the year or a disappointing conclusion.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Yes season, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know.
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: To me, it's the every game is so different that
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: I mean, you could be in a battle against a
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: team where it's like both teams are moving the ball
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: and both teams are putting up points and there is
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: only one turnover. If it comes in the final drive
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: when you're needing to go down to score, you can't
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: have it. So to me, it's the idea of if
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: there's one thing I know you've said it, I know Hughes.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Talked about it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: A lot of people understand and respect a thing about
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: Sam where even when he makes a mistake, he doesn't
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: seem to get rattled to where he doesn't still try
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: to stuff the next one in there. That Now, the
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: problem with that is sometimes that turns into a four
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: interception game because you're not scared because of your poor
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: your bad play before that, Well, I can't throw it again.
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: This is a bad comparison, But to me, when you
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: were just talking, Tim Tebow was not a great quarterback.
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: Tim Tebow knew that everybody thought he wasn't a great quarterback.
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: When he would throw an interception, you could basically bet
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: on the next five to six throws were going to
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: miss the receiver, but even further missed the defender like
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: he was an a dirt it five yards out in
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: front of the receiver where there was no chance that
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: was gonna get picked off. Sam Donald doesn't do that.
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: He just Okay, I made a mistake, whether it was
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: a bad throw or a bad decision, I made a mistake,
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: But I'm gonna make in the next throw and tip
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: he does, and he typically doesn't. He typically does more
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: good throws than bad throws, and that's where you're talking
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: about overall. If those those good throws outweigh the one
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: bad throw, possibly two bad throws, if your defense can
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: take one away as well, then you're gonna wind up
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: on the winning side of things because of that defense.
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: Because there is some potency to the offense. I mean,
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: Jackson Smith and Jigba and and company. They've moved the
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: ball down the field. I mean, they've scored what thirty
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: plus points in five different halves this season, so they
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: can do some damage to you. But that wouldn't happen
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: if he got scared and started playing two passive.
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: Well, the defense bailed you out yesterday, and I think
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: Sam's bailed himself out plenty of times this year. Made
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: a bad play and then came back and made ten
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: good playoffs to overcome that. And that's the Sam that
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: I can live with. Yesterday, defense bailed you out. They
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: created the turnovers. You had a terrible first half. He
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: had three points at halftime. For goodness sake, that was ugly.
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: Against the Carolina Panthers. You threw for all, you had
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: a one hundred and twenty five total passing yards in
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: the game. I mean that was the first game that
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: the running game looked better than the passing game, I
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: think all season long. So there are a couple of signs.
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: There are a couple of signs there that Sam's not
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: playing his best football at the most important time of
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: the season. So to me, it's just that sweet spot
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: of being just as aggressive as you've been and yet
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: you know there's got to be a little more care
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: in those precious areas. And I think that I'm not
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: going to call it a turnover issue, but certainly we're
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: trending away from great Sam Donald here the last couple
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: of weeks, and it's a bad time to be doing that,
• 43:41
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  Speaker 7: All right, good morning, a live radio for you. Here.
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• 44:55
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• 44:58
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• 45:01
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• 45:04
  Speaker 7: lot to discuss. The theater of the National Football League.
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• 45:10
  Speaker 7: And joining us now on the program is our QB one.
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: Good morning, Hugh, good morning. Great to be with you.
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: Oh man, what a show the NFL put on this weekend.
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: We got another one coming up here this upcoming weekend.
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: But let's talk to Seahawks twenty seven to ten over
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: the Carolina Panthers. Where does the conversation start with Hugh
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: Millan about this game?
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: Well, I think you just have to acknowledge the defense
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Carolina that they didn't look real good. Obviously, Seattle just
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: dominated a team that was fighting for their division. That
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: was a team that a couple weeks ago they put
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: up thirty one points against the Rams in a victory
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: at home.
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: And you know, they beat.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: Green Bay on the road when green Bay was flying high.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: I mean they have, They've been over thirty points on
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: four games. I mean they you would think on paper
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: they have a high ceiling, and Seattle just made them
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: look like a JV team. Certainly their offense and I
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: mean the air yards on completions for Carolina average negative
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: one point two, total negative seventeen, like okay, like they
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: they just shut down everything and you know, one third
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: down conversion for the entire game, so that the performance
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: by the defense is just breadtaking. Now, does Carolina have
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: a breathtaking offense? No, But as I said, they they have.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: They have shown glimpses where they have a high ceiling
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: and Seattle said we're having none of that, So that
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: that would be My first thought is congratulations to the Seahawks.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: You beat a team on the road after having played
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: a very emotional game against the Rams, a team that's,
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: you know, playing for first place in their division, and
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's to go in said that in
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: the National Football League, you win by seventeen points.
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: On the road.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: In those circumstances, you just have to tip your hat.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: And yet to me, the there's a jeckol in Hyde
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: aspect of the Panther. I haven't watched every single game,
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: but I've watched enough of them and seen enough highlights
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: of you know, them getting beat forty to nine by
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: the Buffalo Bills. Now that's a good team at times,
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: and they can do that to somebody. But they also
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: lost both games to the Norland Saints and didn't do
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: a whole heck of a lot offensively against them either.
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: So it feels to me like you don't know for
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: sure what you're gonna get, and yet your only job
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: is to go out and make them look like the
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: lower end of their ceiling, whatever that is, or the
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: floor you want to make them look like that they
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: most certainly did. Is there anything in particular that you
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: saw that Mike McDonald did that was ultimately really confusing
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: to Bryce Young and the rest of that offense.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that they they took away the deep ball,
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: and you know, they played mostly zone. When they played man,
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: they gloved it up pretty good. I think they communicated
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: very well. I mean the Seahawks the difference between them
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: at home and on the road defensively, I mean they
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: they allow, you know, under sixteen points on the road,
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: they're over twenty points at home. They're the EPA. You know,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: Nate at home is negative six point nine to six,
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: but on the road is thirty nine. That probably doesn't
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: mean a lot, but expected point it's added. I mean,
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of statistics where you just go, these
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: guys are a lot better on the road than at home.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: And I think part of it is a communication. Obviously,
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: you can communicate better on the road, and so I
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: think they just they had everything covered and then when
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: they just a lot of of the checkdowns were to
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: the swings. I mean, yet out in the flat and
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: relative open space. Tyo Cotta on a swing, great tackle.
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: Uh Witherspoon in the flat with a lot of space,
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: great tackle on a third down. Ernest Jones man a
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: man coverage out out on a swing, great tackle. Even
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Nuosa on a third down, buzzing out on a on
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: a on a zone blitz. He's got the flat. He
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: makes a great tackle. So they were. They tackled well
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: in the flat after having induced the the the checkdowns
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: for for Bryce Young, and I think in Bryce Young
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: they just made him look I mean just a tiny
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: but but slow. I mean, if you're gonna be that small,
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: you better be Kyler Murray twitchy. He didn't look fast,
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: he didn't look big. His arm looked weak, he looked tentative.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, if if we were doing Carolina Radio, I'd say,
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: please don't make the mistakes the Dolph Dolphins did with Tua,
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: like like, no, this guy is not worth the second contract,
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: you know. And so at an event, I think that
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: they just a great communication. They're healthy on defense. I mean,
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: if you'd have told me going into week seventeen that
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: and I don't want to diminish or diss Kobe Bryant.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: He has been a really good player for them. But
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: if you said that's the only guy that's that you're
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: concerned about from a health standpoint, sign me up.
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: And so you know, they got a lot of dudes
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: now that even the younger you know, Okata and Drake Thomas,
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: who you know, weren't starters at to begin with, but
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: now they just they're really keen on their reads and
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: they're playing with no hesitation. It's a fun group to watch, obviously,
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: no doubt.
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: Hugh Mellon is with us our QB one Monday morning
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: quarterback session as there's so much talk about with the
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: Seattle Seahawks, and so there's still more to talk about
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: with the defense. But let's get to the other side
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: of the ball. Because it was an ugly first half
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: for sure, or just three points at halftime, just a
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: high undred and twenty five passing yards for the entire game.
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: I think that I say this without hesitation. This radio
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: show here in Seattle, this morning show, Ashley Bucky, myself
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: probably are the more pro Sam Donald, let it rip
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  Speaker 7: a group that you're gonna find on a daily basis
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  Speaker 7: here in Seattle. And yet there's certainly that narrative about
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: too many turnovers, and I'm wondering if you who've been
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: the leader of the I'm not worried about this brigade.
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: Is there any reason to start worrying about it as
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: you're getting ready for these crucial games starting on Saturday.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: I'm not as worried about the turnovers as I am,
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: just the general lack of cohesion. I mean, in the
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: first nine games of the year, Sam Donald's passer rating
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  Speaker 5: on the aggregate was one hundred and fourteen. In eight
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: of those nine games, is passer rating was over eighty five.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: The way you know, you run the correlation numbers to
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: winning and passer eight. Even though passer rating is a relic,
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: it's been around since nineteen seventy. It stands the test
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: of time and there is high correlation, so passer rating
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: is absolutely a worthwhile statistic. In the last seven games,
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: remember reminder, eight of nine have been over eighty five.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: In the last seven games starting with the RAM game.
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: In so far, only two of seven have been over
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  Speaker 5: eighty five, and the average has been eighty four. So
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: you go from one hundred and fourteen to eighty four,
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: you've lost thirty points on your average passing game. The
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: difference between the first nine games and the last seven.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: So clearly you can't just, you know, just kind of
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: blow those statistics under the carpet. I mean that's real stuff,
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: and I think that they're not getting the big plays certainly.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: You know, after watching the tape, that is not a
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: resume for Clint Kubiak if he was trying to get
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: a higher job. He just that. You know, there's details
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: about their their offense that are just the difference between
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: winning and losing. And they got double slant. Mike Homgren
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: would call it lion. You know, you got the the
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: the receivers are too close to each other, so they're
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: stacked on top of each other. When they won the
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: slant on a on a on a wide receiver screen,
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: that left tackle and my entire life, I mean that
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: coaches at high school, I have never seen Josh Josh Jones,
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: I've never seen the left tackle on a tunnel screen
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  Speaker 5: not go get the widest guy the corner and then
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: let the guard get the the next inside guy. But
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: there was Josh Jones getting the the the overhang defender
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: and waiting for Gray's able to try and get to
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: the widest guy. I mean that's that's that's that's a
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: new one on me that I I think, uh uh,
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: the failure to see there they were the Carolina was
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: playing on a lot of coverage what's called quarter quarter half.
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: Some people call it cover six. So say, okay, I
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: might've lost some people. What that means is you're rolling
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: to one half of the field and you're putting a
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: corner down in the flat on one side and the
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: safety over the top, so you're double covering on that side,
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: but on the opposite side, you're allowing free access. And
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: and you got to you gotta go take the out
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: routes on that and and there was they kept trying
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: to work the middle of the field in Carolina. The
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: one thing they did well defensively, they they kind of
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: bottle up the middle of the field. I don't think
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: Seattle exploited the outside the They were only they were
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: seven and nine going outside the numbers, but only fifty
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: six yards passing. And you know, and Darnold had shown
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: on the third play of the game, I mean you
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: had this beautiful uh intermediate speed out to the sideline
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: and from the right half to the far left. I mean,
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: Darnal can make that throw. I think they needed to
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: call that more. There was another time with Rashizi. He
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: before he got hurt, he had a four step out route.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: Good looking play out there. It's a it's a quarters beater.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: And and yet I think that they should have called
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: that more. Certainly they should have called more deep balls
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: because I wrote I'm writing. I can't even tell you
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: all the times that that I write in the note.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Squad.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: Squad is a term that that is kind of a
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: ubiquitous term for quarterbacks, and it describes a corner who
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: is who is sitting at a certain depth maybe before
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: the snap of the ball, maybe at seven yards, maybe
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: a slight backpedal, but he's not really honoring the deep ball.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: He's keeping his hips and his shoulders parallel to the
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: line scrimmage, ready to drive from the top down, eager
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: to drive from the top down. And you got to
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: run go routes. You just have to do it. And
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: and even if you know, you know, throw it up,
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: you might get a PI what have you, But you
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: got to loosen them up. And and number two and
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: number eight J C. Horn and our buddy Mike Jackson,
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: a former Seahawk, just were squatting all day. And they
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: did it to Cooper Cup, they did it to jaysn
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: they did it to Derek Young, and so that that
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: is a part of it. And then you say, well,
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: where's the double move? Well, they finally, oh my gosh,
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: so they finally get to the double move, which what's
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: what's Carolina was just dying, you know, begging you to
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: do a double move. They do it in the red zone.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: They get the interception, and I'll just leave myself because
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: I know you're gonna ask me the interception. A lot
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: going on there, uh, And so they call a slug
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: o to jsn on on the outside based on how
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: the the corners for Carolina had been playing when they
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: were in off coverage. That's again where they're you know,
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: seven yards hips parallel to the line of scrimmage. How
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: based on how they were playing, that would be a
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: good call there. But on this particular time, they're playing
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: at what's called a press bail, and press bail means
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: that I'm Sam Darnold, I'm in the shotgun. Out to
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: my left, there's Mike Jackson. He is pressed up on
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: Jackson Smith and Jigbab my widest receiver, to the left
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: to the way that that you would say they were
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: susceptible is if he was off coverage. He's not off coverage,
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: but right before the snap of the ball, he bails out.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: The term is called press bail. It's a zone zone
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: uh parlance and and lexicon if you will. And when
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: you bail knees out, excuse me, knees in and ask out.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: You're looking back at the quarterback, but your your body
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: is retreating away. So when you start to go to slant,
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: your your momentum as a cornerback, you're already taking yourself
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: away from the line of scrimmage. And so they they
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: call the play that they should have called several times,
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: but it just happened to come up against the wrong
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: coverage and so Darna's got to be aware that he's
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: got a check down. But but what ends up happening
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: is when Jasn comes out of it, he's faking a
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: slant SLUGO is in a word conjunction slant and go,
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: and he's faking. And Mike Jackson so on top of
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: the route, the JSN by his body language, he starts
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: to throttle down and he says, throw it to me
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: back shoulder. I'm not I'm never gonna get on top
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: of this guy. The idea is that that had the
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: corner been off Mike Jackson at seven yards, you come up,
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: you three step, he's he triggers down and then you
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: go outside of him and you get an easy touchdown.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: That's how you you drew it up, and how you
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: practiced on Friday in red zone practice and and but
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: that's not.
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  Speaker 7: The look they get.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: So now jasn as I said, he is uh, he's
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: trying to throw it down, expecting throw it on my
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: back shoulder, and Darnald is thinking throw it up to
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: the back of the end zone. And that and and
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: I'll add one more component to the the uh, the
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: the play that I think was vital. And then I'll
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: stop and catch my breath. That Donald was in the
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: shotgun and he had Canine to his right. He also
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: had two tight ends to the right. Canine had to
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: come from the right across his face to block the
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: n man online Scrimmage, who was lined up like a
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: linebacker happened to be a safety, but the left tackle, Jones,
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: was blocking down inside their turn protecting. That means you're
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: asking Canine to start from the right go in front
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: of the quarterback's face.
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: And now.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: There's a blow up like a grenade from Donald's perspective,
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: and this is happening in his lap. His arm gets hit,
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: He's everything like this. This block by Canine is happening
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: literally right in his lap. It's a poor scheme to
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: have that him to have to do that on that play.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: You need to have them on the other side or
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: turn the protection from not left to right, but right
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: to left. And then Canine, who's on the right, and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: he happens to be on the double tight end side
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: that end that he would have to block is way
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: far removed from the quarterback. You just don't want to
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: have that protection. So there was a lot of things
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: going on in that interception that doesn't bother me. It's
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: the lack of cohesion and the idea that you're only
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: you know, you're under two hundred yards and your efficiency
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  Speaker 5: is poor. That's kind of where I am.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, well, I mean I'll stay with Darnold just to
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  Speaker 8: finish this second. I mean, just overarching if you had
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: to give him a grade, because to me, it's you
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 8: got to let it rip.
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  Speaker 2: And yet at.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: Times that means that things are going to happen, whether
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: they're your fault it is a bad decision, or whether
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: it was a good defensive play called on the other
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: side of things. To me, the situational awareness. If you're
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 8: backed up against your own goal line, you can't turn
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 8: the ball over there, right, whether it's you know, getting
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 8: rid of it so you're not getting hit and fumbling,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 8: or you're throwing it into you know, a dangerous situation
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: where all of a sudden their team has a short
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: field and they're going to have points on the board,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 8: or when you are down there getting ready to score
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: and that like that interception was and you essentially are
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: kind of taking points off the board. If you just
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: had to say what Sam Darnold's overall situational awareness, his
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: decision making based on where you're at on the field
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 8: and the situation of the game. You're giving him an
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 8: a for over the course of the season. B See
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: where where's he at?
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  Speaker 5: Oh? Over the course of the season. Yeah, yeah, I'd
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  Speaker 5: give him an Ah. Look, you're you're you're you're setting
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: a franchise record for points already and you still have
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: the week to go. You're where are they in terms
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: of points?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: There?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: Are they top two in the NFL and points. You know,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: for most of the season they hit. He had been
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: number one in net yards per attempt. I think he's
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: number two now, So I would say for the season,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this.
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  Speaker 7: Is the guy.
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  Speaker 5: It looks you're right now, you're the number one seed
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: in the NFC, and you know he's over his last
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: forty starts. He's thirty one and nine. So yeah, if
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: you want to say for the season, he's had an
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: as he's a Pro Bowl. You know, he's the number
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: two guy in the conference at the Pro Bowl, voted
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: number two behind Matthew Stafford. So so I can't give
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: him less than an A for all of that. Now
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: if you want to say yesterday, no, it wasn't an A. No,
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  Speaker 5: I don't like, you know, boot left hell, they do
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: more boot lefts than TUA does boot lefts down in Miami.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: Why do you start the game with with with the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: boot left and from a formation in the front where
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: the you know it's an odd front and the n
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: man online of scrimmage, who you're trying to get to
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: suck down inside for a second, and what's called reduce
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: you're trying to get him to reduce he's so stinking
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: wide on his alignment before you snap the ball that
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: you're never gonna get that play without him in your face.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: And so so I just think there was just a
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: bunch of stuff that I you want to talk about
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: bad grades, I'd give Clint Kubiak a bad grade.
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  Speaker 2: He just you know, his.
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  Speaker 5: Play calling for what what Carolina was doing. You know,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: you know I've already kind of touched on some of it.
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  Speaker 5: But I would say for Darnold yesterday, by NFL standard,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: you know, that's that's B minus, you know, somewhere in there.
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  Speaker 5: But but I think that there's a lot of quarterbacks
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: who you put him in in underneath the center and
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: let him be the Seahawk quarterback yesterday that they wouldn't
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: have looked any better. A lot of quarterbacks that you
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: think are damn good wouldn't have had a good game either,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: based on what he confronted. Was there a couple of
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: misreads where I thought, okay, yeah, there was a couple
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: of a couple of reads where if he was just
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: bang on with his timing, there was some opportunities from
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: some any intermediate stuff. But I think he also was
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: operating from a very dirty pocket on a consistent basis,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: and so yeah, that concerns me going, you know, moving forward.
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  Speaker 7: Ain't Sanattle's cutting Sehawks are running with it. Lawrence, Texas
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  Speaker 7: at didn't stand, didn't stand sadly, yeah, but still forced fumble,
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  Speaker 7: fumble recovery set them up on the doorstep Demark Lawrence.
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  Speaker 7: Another big game the po bowler DeMarcus Lawrence. Seahawks went
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  Speaker 7: over the Carolina Panthers twenty seven to ten, thirteen and
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  Speaker 7: three on the season, with a chance to go fourteen
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  Speaker 7: and three this Saturday when they face the San Francisco
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  Speaker 7: forty nine ers in Santa Clara. Everything's on the line.
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  Speaker 7: The number one seed in the NFC playoffs, the division championship,
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  Speaker 7: home field advantaged throughout the postseason, the free will of man.
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  Speaker 7: Everything is on the line for this game on the
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  Speaker 7: Saturday night, and we got our experts here, Hugh Millen
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  Speaker 7: and Mike Holmgren to break it down on a Monday
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  Speaker 7: morning quarterback. So, coach, when you think about this game,
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  Speaker 7: this matchup with the forty nine ers, what's the first
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: thing that hits you? What a great game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm really looking forward to seeing it
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: because you have two teams. It's kind of unbelievable. It's
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: like when the forty nine er, excuse me, when the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Seahawks played the Rams, that division, whole division. It's so close,
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  Speaker 1: and now so much is writing on it, you know,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: the division title, first round, by those types of things,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: and so plus it's your rivals, it's everything is there.
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  Speaker 1: It's just set up perfectly. I think the TV people
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  Speaker 1: are very, very excited about this.
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  Speaker 3: Mike.
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  Speaker 5: I'd like to get your thoughts on brock Purdy because
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: I think it's an interesting just development that they have
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: had down there in the sense that they draft Trey
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: Lance number three. Overall, they spent two number ones to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: climb up to get him, and he was a big
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: dude that can run, strong arm, what have you. And
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: yet Kyle Shanahan didn't need to coach him for very
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: long before he just gave up on him and trade
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: him for a mid round pick to the Cowboys in
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: favor of Rock Party mister irrelevant, who's shorter, slower, much
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: weaker arm. So there there's got to be something in there.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I certainly obviously have my ideas, but I
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: would love to hear from you. Why would a coach
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: is accomplished as Kyle Shanahan go with a Rock Party
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  Speaker 5: to be his franchise quarterback, give him a two hundred
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: and fifty million dollar contract and all that when you
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: see some of the limitations with him physically.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think you know what goes to show you
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: is that you have quarterbacks are rated on the things
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: you mentioned. You look at that first strength, maneuverability, accuracy,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, But then the tough part
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: to evaluate and you see it. You see it every
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: year with different teams and guys who are drafted high that.
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  Speaker 1: But there's something missing.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's not he doesn't compute properly. He's got the tools,
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  Speaker 1: but he doesn't compute properly, whereas Rock Party, I think
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: computes perfectly. I think he really does that. And for
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: a coach like Shanahan who has coached quarterbacks and offense
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: his life, his entire life, and me I liked it too,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: that there's an attraction there. And then when you put
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: him in the game what he has done. Okay, you
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: know they decided to make the decision. Let's say he
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: goes in and it doesn't work. It for whatever reason,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work. Now you go another direction. But it
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: has worked with him. You've seen it. You saw it yesterday,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: and you see it. You know he's accurate, he makes
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: good decisions. His teammates love him.
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  Speaker 7: He can run.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: No, it's so they've hit it, and you don't always
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: get to hit it. Joe Montana, if you remember, he
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: didn't start until his third year, right, you know that,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Steve de Berg.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 7: They had some guys in there and then Joe.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: You know now, but all of a sudden you got
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: the guy for a long time, in fact, one of
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: the best ever. So it's an interesting thing. Quarterbacks are
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: an interesting thing. You don't always hit the ones you
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna handle on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, quarterbacks are weird.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, one around so weird.
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  Speaker 8: Coach, I'm going to ask you something that I did
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: ask you, and surprisingly, for the first time in my life,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 8: it was something that he hadn't really thought of. Uh
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 8: so mission accomplished by me. When you're playing a division
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 8: foe like they are going to have here, obviously you
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 8: play them twice a year, is it, in your experience,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 8: was an advantage an advantage for you as the offensive guy,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 8: or did you feel like the second time you played
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 8: somebody it's an advantage for the defensive minded guy.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question, Bucket.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I always thought if I the more I knew a team,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: it was to my advantage. That's what I felt, and
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they felt the same way. And you know,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: you play the teams all the time, and you know
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff and you know the personnel. Now it's
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: important then to insert into the game and you will
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: see it. We will see it next Saturday. You know
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: things so maybe we haven't seen yet, or the other
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: team hasn't seen yet, not a not a lot of things,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: but some things.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: And so you know, I remember when I was at
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. We played the Rams in the
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: championship game, and that was the fourth game, fourth time
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: we played them that year. We played them in preseason,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: we played two games in the regular season, and then
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: we played them in the championship game. And I was going,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I was new to the forty nine ers,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: and I going, well, this is different now, but we've
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: known pretty well, and so I think it's I always
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: looked at it as that was a good thing for
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: me if I knew the team and knew kind of
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: what their tendencies were.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I've heard about this my entire life. I've heard
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: it all season long that Mike McDonald is like saving
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: stuff and spreading out stuff that he's saving all season long.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: How on earth are you able to do that?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Ken?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 7: You you play sixteen games in the National Football League,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: trying to win every single one of them, because we
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 7: know every weeks of war in the NFL. How do
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 7: you save stuff for a certain team or a certain
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 7: game or a certain situation.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Coach, you know, Chuck, You know, it reminds me of
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: when you hear coach speak. A guy gets to the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: podium and he says all this stuff and you leave
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: and you go, what did he say? What's what's what's
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: he talking about? I don't understand this. It's it's it's
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: to me, it's writers speak, Okay, you know, talking about Mike,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald and then how how he does stuff, and oh,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be a good story because we're I know,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: he's saving stuff. So it comes out that way and
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: then people catch on. I don't believe in the first second.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: He's calling the game and he's doing what he has
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: to do to win that game, and you know, he
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: might have some things in his arsenal he hasn't called yet,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: but he's certainly not saving things for the opportunity of
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: maybe in the NFC Championship game. No, he's he got
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: to get there. You got to get there, and then
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: then you do what you have to do.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: So, Mike, what as some matchups or some areas that
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: you anticipate being important. I think it's interesting that the
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: forty nine ers, you know, for many years they could
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: generate a pass rush with four guys highlighted by Bosa,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: and they had some some good guys on the inside
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: as well, but they have really dried up in terms
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: of their four man Rush. I think they're second to
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: the worst in terms of producing sacks in the league,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: and so they got to do it by scheme. Are
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: there some other things that you see as far as
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: some matchup areas that intrigue you.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I think I think one thing is the forty
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: nine ers are lost their two best defensive players, really
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: good defensive players in Warner and Mosa, and so it
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me that they're struggling a little bit that way,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: you know, But they are an aggressive group. As far
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: as matchups, I don't think. I wouldn't go into too
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: many matchups, but what I would do for this game
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: is that the forty nine er are going to have
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: a plan to try and take Enjigma away, and it's
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: hard to do. It's hard to do even when you're trying.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: It's hard to do. But that should open up some
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: other things. So in the preparation and thinking about how
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do this, that's what I focus on,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: just a little bit more on the preparation, knowing I'm
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: going to throw the ball at the Jigma, but I'm
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: going to get some other guys involved. But as far
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: as targeting a particular guy on their defense. I don't
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: think I don't think that's in the cards. I don't
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: think they have those guys necessarily right now. And so
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I run my offense. I do what I have to do,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: but I try to spread it around and again use
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: the play action pass a lot, particularly after the game
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Sharp and had last week.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 8: Coach, is there anything did you ever have a time
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: when the offense was sputtering a little bit at to
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: start with in games and you just said, Okay, I'm
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 8: gonna I'm gonna completely flip this thing around. Like maybe
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 8: you're just like, we're not going to run the ball
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: at all. We're just going and we're not even gonna
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 8: go just try to move the change. We're gonna just
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 8: take maybe a first couple of possessions and we're gonna
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 8: take a couple of shots and and try to get
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: big chunk plays to maybe spark that thing and ignite
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 8: the offense earlier in the game.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of the famous thing I did when
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: we couldn't we couldn't run a lick, and I said
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: during a game, I said to all the coaches want
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: heard it, that's it. We're throwing every play and then
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden. The line coach kind of gave
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: me some static in the phone, and I told him
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: in a nice way, I said, be quiet, we'll never
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: do that. I'm gonna throw the ball. I don't want
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: to hear from you. And then you know that because
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: because we needed to do something, what we were doing
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: wasn't working, and I didn't see a way out other
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: than okay, let's open this thing up and see we
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: can hit a couple of loosen things up. So I
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: think that has to be in your You have to
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: have a plan B. You have to have it ready,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: you know. And this game is going to be unbelievable
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: on Saturday. It really is.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 7: I remember that time where Mike Homer was like, all right, Hasselbeck,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 7: the rest of the game left handed. We're only going
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: to throw left handed, just to shake it up, just
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 7: to catch them off guard. All right, I want to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 7: squeeze this in real quickly. We do have to go
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: to break. But have how often in your career did
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 7: you line up in victory formation losing by seventeen Never?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Never?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: And it surprised me, and then it caught me off guard.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I was in that chair that I
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: was massaging and I was kind.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 7: Of sleepy at that point.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: What are they doing?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: What are they doing?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: But then I saw the coach on the sideline and
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: I think the announcer told me what they were doing,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: so that was okay.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 7: But no, I had never done that. I hadn't seen it.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: You seen it.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 7: No, I have not seen it in the second half,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 7: especially with time, yeah, time left on the clock for
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 7: the other team to get the ball back. It was
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 7: it was interesting. No, yeah, all right, looking ahead. Yeah,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 7: that's true. Yes, they were yeah, all right. One last
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 7: thing next Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A RFM,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: probably one last thing for coach Holmgren here this morning.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 7: We got Hugh Millen here of course, Monday Morning Quarterback,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 7: our final segment. I usually go last in this segment,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: but I want to go first because we have not
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 7: touched upon a something that happened in the game that
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: I think is pretty significant. And I don't know if
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 7: he wants to weigh in on this as well, but
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: at the end of the first half, you want to
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 7: talk about chaos football. I just got to get your
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: reaction to this, coach and yours, Hue as well. First
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 7: of all, horrible officiating. I thought throughout the game, certainly
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 7: on this drive, this particular drive, they missed a horse
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: collar and a face mask on this play. I don't
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 7: know how you missed that. And then you had Sam
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 7: have that pass that got deflected off of Brown's bicep,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 7: then dropped by Cup and then almost gets intercepted by
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 7: the guy that deflected it, So that added to the chaos.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 7: Then Walker catches the ball and then drops it like
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 7: he didn't drop the pass. He caught it and then
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: drops it and said, then we didn't know if he
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: had the first down or not. And then time's ticking
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 7: down and Mike for some reason doesn't want to use
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 7: his timeouts ever anymore in the first half, so he's
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 7: got three timeouts, he doesn't use any of them. Then
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 7: it's fourth down and one, and they just they don't
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 7: even have time to get Barner out there, who's your
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 7: normal sneak guy. So Sam just sneaks it and then
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 7: he's short, and then they can't challenge apparently either one
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 7: of them in the situations. And now so seventeen seconds
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 7: left on the clock, you had a short fire field goal.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 7: You thought at least attempt there that you could make
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 7: with Myers, you end up coming away with nothing, and
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 7: then to add to the chaos, Carolina gets the ball
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 7: and decides we don't have a quarterback with a strong arm.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 7: We're not gonna throw a hail Mary. I mean, so
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 7: you two make sense of this. What should have been
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 7: done in that situation? Coach to handle all of that
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 7: muck and nonsense.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'm glad have you settled down
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: today since you saw that?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 7: Since?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: No, apparently not.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: That's the most fired up I've heard you for in
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: a long time. But no, you you have a good point.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: It was crazy and that was to my point in
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: the when at app time I'm thinking, what in the
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: world did we just see? And you know, I hate
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: to duch Hughes button on the officiating, but it was
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: really it was really you go, come on, you got
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: to see that that on the on those calls, that's
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: the first thing. Then that one play that the big guy,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: it came off his helmet and then it took back
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: to him, and oh, you're right. I had seen that
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: in a long time. But to me, that was the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: perfect ending to a first half.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Like we saw.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: It was the perfect ending. The cherry on the top. Well,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: I mean as far as coach McDonald and the timeouts,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: that's there's a simple reason. I mean, he's just saving
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: it so he can have six in the second half.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, but you know, I think the goad Herders
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: had a really really bad day.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: And you know, on a third down in their own territory, Caroline,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: on their one touchdown drive, they throw a bubble screen
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: and you you know, holding is more holding the closer
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: yard to the ball. Uh And right at the point
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: of attack you got Witherspoon. He gets yanked by his shoulder.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: He yanks is It's like a corkscrews him. He gets
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: yanks so bad, and he was he was the guy
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: who was going to make the tackle. And how they
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: don't miss how they missed that. I mean, if they
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: call that now, you're gonna have it third and acception long.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: You're probably gonna get a pun out of that. I mean,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: that was a seven point missed.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: I could go on and on with that.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: You're right, the whole sequence was a mess. But hey, speed,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: so they have fast eyes when they sow on on Sunday.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: Guess what, that's what we're gonna get every single week.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: My trick, Chuck said, he wasn't. Chuck, calm down, You
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: calm down.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: It's your turn.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: Ye, go ahead, what's your one last thing? You're talking
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 8: about squeezing things. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 8: off on the officials. I'm just an ass playing and
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: simple coach. I mean, and this is I think every
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 8: team could probably say, well, if this happens, you're probably
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 8: not gonna go as far as you want in the playoffs.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: But it's a trend. There's a the idea of turning
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: the ball over.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 8: We just watched, Uh, you know the Bears play last night,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 8: and the fact that they're sitting where they're sitting in
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 8: the standings is in large part from taking the ball away.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 8: If this Seahawks team, who's a legitimate Super Bowl contender,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 8: they're they're up there, I think second in the NFL
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 8: as far as scoring goes, and we know how good
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 8: and dominant their defense can be. Is turnovers going to
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 8: be the reason why the team does not get to
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 8: the super.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Bowl or win it all? I think so. I I
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: think so, Buck.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: I think turnovers are for years, turnovers usually determine what happens. Uh,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: we've gone through a couple of crazy games this season
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: where it was kind of the opposite, you know, but
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: I think, I think when you had two really good
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: teams playing against each other, although although we saw one
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: that didn't work quite that way a couple of weeks ago,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: turnovers will decide it. And that's that's that's my worry.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: I suppose you know, and so well, you know, it
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: might be you might see it. You really might see
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: it play into the game on Saturday, because you got
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: two really good teams too close closely know each other,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: they're they've been playing the same way, and we'll see
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: it on Saturday. But I think that will be the
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: determining factor.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 7: All right, here you get the last one, last thing. Question,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 7: what do you got for us?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, Seattle was nine to sixteen on third
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: down fifty six percent. That's that's great, right, Like, if
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: that's all you knew, you would assume you had a
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: big day. But Mike, first downs. There was twenty seven
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: first downs, only six of which did Seattle have more
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: than four yards, only ten of which of the twenty
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: seven to they have more than three. On second downs,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: twenty two second downs twelve of twenty two were eight
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: or more yards to go, and that led to this
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: stat with neutral downs Chuck and Buck being described as
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: either first and ten or less or second and six
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: or less. Those are neutral downs. Sam Darnold passer rating
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: Mike one hundred and eight on neutral downs, on non
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: neutral downs fifty six. It was cut in half essentially.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: And so just talk to us about so much is
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: said about about third down, but that kind of I
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: don't know, call it futility, but in insufficiency on first
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: and second down is a problem. How did you what
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: was your mindset about when you're having those type of
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: bad first downs and putting your team behind the behind
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: the chains.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get I mentioned earlier. You go to plan B.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: You know, if you won't go in and all of
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: a sudden it's not happening. You have a plan your
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: first fifteen or your first fifteen or the second half
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and it's not going the way
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: you want it to go, then you either make adjustments
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: on the field with your alignement or or the running
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: backs you know, hit the hole, whatever you're saying, to
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: make those adjustments to make it manageable. You know, now
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: to your point, Initially, the nine out of sixty on
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: third down. That's pretty good. But that was hard doing
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: it the hard way kind of like you know, so
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  Speaker 1: you know, you make adjustments and be willing to change,
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  Speaker 1: be willing to make those adjustments, and then at halftime,
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  Speaker 1: you know they've come out the second half of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of games and done pretty well. But I think,
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  Speaker 1: can I end it?
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  Speaker 7: Check on one last year? Go ahead?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 1: were watching it as close as I was in the
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  Speaker 1: in the massage chair. But the guy that came on
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  Speaker 1: that looked like Sam Darnold. Did you see him?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: I did? Yeah, Donald Now, yeah, you know Stan marmald.
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  Speaker 1: We'll call himself. You know he is now very famous
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  Speaker 1: and can write his own ticket. Did you see how
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  Speaker 1: much he enjoyed that? Oh he's the guy.
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  Speaker 7: Gingers are weird. That's quarterbacks and gingers typically.
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  Speaker 1: Or I was watching I was watching the game, getting
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  Speaker 1: kind of down in the dumps, and then this movie's
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  Speaker 1: comes on, birk me, I love it.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Happy New Year to both of you. We'll talk
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  Speaker 7: to you later on this week, and then of course
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  Speaker 7: on Monday we get to recap this big game. So
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  Speaker 7: thank you very much, gentlemen. Awesome as always, talk to
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  Speaker 7: you soon, all right, thanks so much.
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  Speaker 2: Happy to your guys.
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