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Mother's Day · The Pork Roll, Egg, And Cheese Podcast

• Shamus: God, I love this crowd, Herbie. Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Pork, Roll, Egg and Cheese Podcast. My name is Seamus. Herbie: Herbie also known as Papa. Shamus: and this episode ⁓ is to you by Tattooing Body Art. Go see our buddy Brett or one of his highly talented artists for all your tattoo needs. With two locations in Browns Mills of Wrightstown, they cover everything to first timers, to sleeves, to huge back tattoos. And every tattoo is a true masterpiece. You can contact them through Facebook and Instagram at their pages at Tattooing Body Art. And remember, there are no piercings. It's also bought to you by Scooper Heroes Pet Waste Removal Service. Give Andrew and Barry a call for all your dog poop scooping needs. You can reach them at 609-288-2568 or scoopaheros.com. Herbie: Yeah, scoop the poop and get some tats. Shamus: All right, buddy. So we've been getting a lot of texts and emails about what happened to the Star Wars episode. ⁓ absolutely. ⁓ I'll tell you what happened. So everybody knows ⁓ we had some circumstances happen that were beyond our control and we sat down to record the episode without Herbie because Herbie couldn't be here with us that day. And after we got done with it, the two other guys I did it with all kind of looked we all looked at each other and said, we can't do this without Herbie, man. It's just not the same. It's you know, there's a It's like trying to surf without water. Yeah, so So we decided to scrap that episode and we are going to in the next couple days We're gonna have those two guys come back Yeah to other Star Wars geeks and we're gonna we're gonna do it again Herbie: They did a great job. listened to it before. they, with the facts and everything, Jason did a wonderful job and everything. So it's cool. Shamus: So everybody knows we're gonna have ⁓ my buddy Troy a guy I worked with for a couple years. He's a huge Star Wars guy He's gonna come on and then everybody knows Jason from the exciting a new podcast Yeah, so he's gonna come back cuz we all know he loves movies and God knows he loves Star Wars. ⁓ yeah, so we're gonna get that knocked out so Everybody had a great May the fourth. Yeah and the revenge of the fifth. Yes, and We're gonna be a little late with it this year, but it's coming We promise it won't be the Monday after Mother's Day. It'll be the Monday after that. Herbie: and small the Sith shall rule the galaxy. you Shamus: another is we didn't wanna bother anybody with coming in to ⁓ record an episode with us and pull away from their families and their mothers or their wives that have kids because it is Mother's Day this weekend. ⁓ And we, you know, we just didn't we didn't wanna do that to anybody. So what we're gonna do today is me and Herbie are gonna sit here and talk Mother's Day. ⁓ We're gonna give you a good pork, egg, and cheese salute to all the women out there who have kids or pets or. or any kind of motherly figure that you might know and show our respect and tell them how much we love them and know that the world only rotates around because of these women. Herbie: Support your mamas and the mamas that had your babies. Shamus: Herbie, do you know when the first official Mother's Day was celebrated? The second Sunday in May in 1908 and it was organized by a lady named Anna Jarvis. The holiday has faced criticism for its commercialization diverging from its original intent. I wonder how the first Mother's Day actually went. ⁓ Herbie: Dude, was like 19-0 flippity flap, double lot 19-08, ⁓ so it's got to be like a warm house. I don't know, some kind of soup on a big hearth. maybe she didn't have to do yard work. I don't know, man. was probably log cabins and cold weather. Well, I it was May, right? So it probably be nice. would be like flowers. So maybe it was a good crop. And she didn't have to go out and, you know. Shamus: Maybe she didn't have to pluck the chickens that day or milk. The kids did it and all that stuff. I'd have been pretty wild. I'd go back and see that the first Mother's Day would be pretty cool. And like I said, now it's so commercialized, it's unbelievable. One thing my mother absolutely loved was she didn't love all the extravagant gifts and all that. I mean, I couldn't be 40 years old making her a card. That'd have been a little weird. But like just a simple card and she didn't like like the roses and stuff like that as much. But she did love like just like tulips. Yeah. That was that's all she ever wanted. I mean, my brother and my sister used to try to drag her out to like brunch or dinner or whatever. And she would never. Herbie: Moms are just like simplistic stuff. just actually, I think their best gift, like a lot of times they say is they just want you around, spend the day with them, get them some flowers, have a meal together. I think for parents and stuff like that, either mother or father's day, especially mother's day, it's just like spending time with their kids. Shamus: And leaning in on that, ⁓ here's some facts for you. Americans spend approximately $25 billion on Mother's Day gifts each year, with flowers being the popular choice, obviously. And then the holiday is one of the busiest days for restaurants, as many families take their mothers out for brunch. Like I said, my mom didn't want, I'll never forget this, the one time McDonald's in Del Reyn, I had to be like. nine, 10 years old. Yeah. And they were offering free breakfast on Mother's Day. And I was just like, we're going to take you to breakfast. And she was just like, she had that look. And you're just too young to realize at the time because she knew that everybody and their mother was going to be there and it was going to be. But the kids wanted to take her. So we took her and it was packed. But we had a good time. But I was just kind of like when I got older. Herbie: Yeah, she just wants to stay. Shamus: We're gonna wait until Wednesday after Mother's Day if you want to go out. And even then she was just like, no, I'm good. You don't have to buy me anything to be your mom. Like so whatever. But ⁓ yeah, it was always, she was always very simple. She never, and she always, she wanted to cook on Mother's Day. Like she, like you said, she just wanted to stare. So everybody would come over to the house for Mother's Day. I very selfless, very selfless that lady. Herbie: Definitely. think that's like when you when you went to McDonald's with it. I think that's when they actually the ice cream machine actually worked Bastards, remember you go to like Halloween you get like the little gift certificate that's get the free Sunday hint hint McDonald's Yeah, the goddamn machine work Shamus: Somebody told me that ⁓ when doesn't work, we're getting off topic, but they break because they don't clean them properly. ⁓ Herbie: They just don't use them. I don't think they use them there. I think there was something to it, but you know anyway back to moms Shamus: Yeah, did you ever do anything with your mom or? ⁓ yeah. Or is it just everybody at the house hanging out and? Herbie: Yeah, pretty much like the same thing is like, you know, she like when a little kid just made her some cards Spend time with her hung out with mama. I still hang out with mom So I always get her flowers and to get her like a little gift and stuff like that I try to get like, you know, like specialty type gifts cuz you know, I'm a nerd So sometimes like she likes certain like Disney characters or she likes flowers I try to get her ones that actually will stay a lot of times like her favorite flowers roses So I'll get her roses and there's a lot of times we have a tree in the backyard that my mom loves and it's a dogwood tree. like whenever it blooms and stuff like that, I know I'm like take a couple of like the freshly bloomed petals and stuff like that. And I'm like bringing in for now either put it like in a little bowl of water where it floats. looks pretty. No, that's what's up. I'm just going to give stuff to mom and you know, get her like, you know, a bunch of food then just spend the day with her. Like, you know, they just they just want you to be there. Shamus: . I remember as a kid, and they still kind of do it because like I said, I work at a ⁓ and middle school. ⁓ little kids, they get all geeked up. and I was the same way when I was a kid. Like Mother's Day was coming. Like ⁓ you make the paper plate turkeys at Thanksgiving and you do the Santa Claus with the cotton ball beads and stuff. But that like Mother's Day was kind of like your own. ⁓ They would just like throw like everything left over from the year because summer was coming. Oh, yeah. And they're like, all right, we got popsicle states. We got cotton balls. We got Valentine Day hearts. We got all this stuff. Yeah. Glitter. Glitter. If somebody if Bobby over in the corner didn't need it, you know, we got all this stuff, construction paper and like so make something for your mother. And I used to I try to be pretty elaborate. Yeah. Like if Liberace was making a fuck. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, dude, everything's gotta be bedazzled. Shamus: But like I said, she kept and she passed away in September of 2020 when we are cleaning out her house. Like she kept every one of those goddamn cards. Me, my brother and my sister made. And like even my nephews, like when they, you know, because was my mom. Yeah. I couldn't believe the stuff that she kept. she always told us that that's what mattered to her. Not that we went out and bought something. I mean, when we were older, like I said, I was going to sit in my house at 40 years old. Herbie: Yeah, I think I that, ⁓ Shamus: with glue sticks and fucking glitter making a thing. She would have loved it. Herbie: I think I might try to bring that back sometimes I try to make stuff for mama, so maybe I'll start bringing that back Shamus: Well, if you got time to do it, do it. But ⁓ like you said, it was the small stuff that mattered to her. So. And on top of that, I think I really didn't get a chance to with my grandmother's on my mom's side. She was never really around for Mother's Day and stuff like that. Her and my mom really didn't vibe. And it wasn't because of my mom, it was my grandmother ⁓ and my dad's. Mom would come up when we lived in Philly, she would we'd go to her house because she lived literally two blocks from us. Yeah. Great lady. Very bubbly and, know, just everything is great. Not a care in the world. Rainbows and butterflies. And yeah. And I used to love making stuff for her. ⁓ And she was tiny, man. ⁓ really? Like I want to say, like borderline, maybe like an inch or two bigger than a dwarf. Like she was. ⁓ really? Like she was like four foot. Herbie: like the chick from poltergeist this house is clear. Shamus: Listen, that's exactly what we always said when we were growing up as kids because she had the same voice. Oh, man. She had that and her name. We used to call her Sally. Yeah. I called her nanny, but like adults called her Sally. Same thing, dude. And I'll I'll here's a quick story for you. This is we moved and that neighborhood was a shit show. It was a total war zone when we moved in 85. Well, she stayed. I'm pretty sure my mom because my father. because she was always so bubbly and happy and shit like that. He's drove my father crazy. So I think my mom was just like, hey, Sally, you know, the neighborhood's getting pretty bad. don't you move in with us? My dad was like, absolutely not. But whatever my mom said went anyway. But Sally was like, no, no, no. So before I left for the military, my senior year, I went back to the old neighborhood and spent the night with she wanted to see me before I went. Yeah. And this is north northeast Philly and hunting park. Yeah. ⁓ We go up to the Kmart, I forget where it's at. On the bus, she took the bus everywhere. We get off the bus at ⁓ 5th and Cuyahoga, right where St. Henry School is. And she's got her, you know how old people have that big square cage thing with the wheels on it, and she's got our little poncho bandana thing on and stuff, and I'm walking with this thing, and we're talking. And I look up and there's three of the. biggest black dudes wearing all kinds of gang shit. And ⁓ they're looking right at us. And I was like, ⁓ God, she doesn't bat an eye. She steps down off the curve, starts walking across, walk across and they're at the corner. And I was just like, this is going to go bad. Like, I'm going to do everything I can to save this lady. But we're getting robbed. We're getting mugged. And the one guy taps a dude on the shoulder and they both he points and he. all three of them look at us and I was like, here we go. I'm thinking to myself, one of them's gotta have a gun. Maybe look, I'm looking at their waistband, see if I can get like a drop on one of these motherfuckers. So also one dude was like, Sally! And she was like, what's up baby? And like they came over and hugged her and shit. She was like, this is my grandson, Seamus. And all of sudden they went from smiles to, what's up? Herbie: After all, Shamus: I was like, what's up, man? And I grabbed the car and he was like, come on, man. We'll walk you. It's getting dark. So they walked us to the house and shit. And she was like, I heard gunfire last night. Was that you? He was like, no, that was that was a dude from around the way down the street. They always causing that trouble, Miss Sally. And she was like, well, you be careful. I don't want any of you guys getting shot. My birthday is coming up and I'm expecting gifts from you guys. Oh, you know, we got you this. And I was like, they love they're like everybody love that lady. When we pull up for when we lived in Jersey we pull up at her house and they'd be like one or two neighborhood kids and stuff and she would come to the door answer the door when we roll up and they're like, hey, this is Sally, happy Mother's Day. So yeah, yeah, she was a cool chick, man. But yeah, she's dropped my dad nuts. was great. Really? Yeah. Herbie: That's all. That's crazy. Cause like my grandma, the one grandma from Puerto Rico, she was like this little tiny thing as well too. She was like sweet as anything. She had the broken Spanglish when she would curse, she'd be like, Son of a bitch. She was like, she's just like, um, yeah. Cause we would, we would go there and visit like, like at least once a year or whatever. When I was a little kid and, she has a house in one idea. Shamus: ⁓ yeah ⁓ love stuff like that. I love that. Herbie: And it's like not too far from Ponce, but she has like her, house is on stilts and everything. So, it's basically like a little farmhouse and behind it has like all these mango trees and everything behind it. And she had the farm underneath the house. was like goats and chickens and stuff. And it was cool too, because back in the day you would see all these chickens actually roosting in the trees, you know, and she'd have like little dogs and stuff like that. We had this, she had this one little, ⁓ Chihuahua. That was like a chihuahua mix or something like that. And it was all solid jet black and she was called Negreta. She was so cute. And the house of course had like wooden floors and everything. And we had an outdoor shower. And it was just like beautiful to, you know, visit her like every year. And, You know, she just was like the sweetest lady and it was just, had a lot of great memories in Puerto Rico with visiting my family over there. And then I also have, you know, like my dad's side. Uh, she, she actually, uh, my dad's grandmom was like, uh, she was like this little tiny lady too. She was all bedazzled with her little outfits and everything. She had the beehive hairstyle with the red hair and the glasses and this little, little tiny mouth. And that's actually how I learned about diabetes because she had diabetes. Shamus: I thought you were say she's dating Wilford Brimley for a minute or Or related to him or... Herbie: Yeah, but she would, like, cause like a lot of times I would see her more often than I would see my, my abuelita from Puerto Rico. So, um, she would always want me to spend the weekend over at her house and she tried to like, you know, entice me to come over so she'd be like, right, well, come over and spend the weekend with us. And a lot of times I was like a little kid. I didn't really want to spend a weekend over grandma's because like, didn't really have you. was no in her neighborhood. There was no other kids or nothing like that. It was just like me just hanging out there and stuff. But I was like, well, you got ice cream. She's like, yeah, we got ice cream. We got I was like, you got cookies, you know, trying to like entice me with all these sweets and stuff. So when I finally get there, you know, her ice cream, of course, was those diet. I'm sorry. Her ice cream. Was sugar-free rainbow sherbert. So that was not vanilla ice cream in my eyes So that was horrible. And then also she had those diabetic cookies. I looked them up on amazon not so long. were like the ⁓ they're like almost like Pinwheel ones like this little raspberry jelly. I know exactly. ⁓ god. They're horrible Yeah, they still make those goddamn things So those were the cookies and then the the cereal because of course back in the day when you're a little kid You wanted like, you know fruit loops and all that stuff. The cereal that she had was puffed rice My grandfather was like a goddamn sugar Nazi So I was only allowed like two scoops of sugar for it instead of like the 22 that you need to even like Chuck this stuff down So it wasn't like fun and entertaining for me to be over there It was just like a lot of times my parents would dump me off over there if they went on vacation and stuff so you know they were like the babysitters, but it was It was okay, and it was also the house that was full of doilies, and it was also like that that one big old crystal dish of hard candies that are in there that actually kind of like melded into one big freaking massive melted candy and you like trying to like chisel out those little strawberry candies that are wrapped like little there's the only ones that are good everything else was like those weird licorice ones or the peppermint ones i don't care who you are peppermint candies are not actually candies man Shamus: Nah, they're breath mint. Yeah, I was like... Herbie: You know, it's like the ones like the little ribbons and I was just like, ⁓ my god You basically would have to like break apart like a a boulder just to try to get like any type of like candy that was in the middle like that camera Yeah, dude. Shamus: It was horrible. Well, ⁓ I never really spent the night at my dad's mom, because like I said, I grew up right around the corner from her. By the time we moved the Jersey, I was way too old to do it. And then like when my parents would go out, she would just walk around the corner and watch us in our own home. Yeah. So I never did that. ⁓ My mom's mom, on the other hand, hated. And I'm sure some of my relatives are going to listen to this and all her daughters that are still alive are going to be like, no, no, that wasn't the case at all. Or they might say, yeah, you're right. ⁓ And I can guarantee you, like all her grandsons will say this. She definitely hated all the grandsons. For some reason, she hated dudes. ⁓ All the granddaughters, like my sister and my cousin Sherry and all them that they got, they were always at grandmoms house and that and that, but she wanted nothing to do with the boys. Which was fine with me because like, she never really, she kind of had favorites. And my mom wasn't one of them. So. I never gave a shit. I was kind of like, I mean, as I got older, like when I was a kid, I was just kind of like, well, you don't like my mom, don't like you, fuck yourself, I don't care. ⁓ As I got older, she had a house in the villas down at the shore. I'd never went to it because I was just kind of like, whatever. ⁓ She came up the one time and I was, kind of, my mom was like, hey, your grandmom's coming up and I was just like, for what? Yeah, it's like that's my mother still. Yeah, I get it. But I mean, she's still my grandmother. But yeah. And I actually got to talk to her for a minute and I was just like, maybe this lady's not as bad. And I mean, like she hates kids like boy sons, you know, like. Yeah. But so I never really spent time with her. I never really kicked it with her. One thing she did every year when we were kids, though, and I always appreciate her for this. She drew a monster Christmas party, bro. ⁓ yeah. She had, her and my grandfather got divorced. And she met this other guy, and I'm not gonna name names or anything like that, but he was pretty well off. The house that they had of that now is valued at like 3.2 million damn. Yeah, it was a big ass house We'd go in there and it had like the spiral stale case in the front like that it on you walked in there was a huge den and then you went past where there used to be this big bear rug Oh, and when you one past there was a door there and you walked in and it was like it was almost like the size of this hole downstairs Yeah, it was a huge it was a bar There was a sitting area, there was a TV, there was a fireplace, and like that's where the Christmas party was. And holy shit, man. When you're a little kid and all your cousins in there, my mom had four sisters and a brother, and they only had at least two kids. like, ⁓ we were deep up in there, bro. And then they had somebody play Santa Claus. Herbie: I was. Shamus: growing up, they would always do it on Christmas Eve. And then like, when they started having more and more kids, like the sisters were all like, look, I can't do all this shit on Christmas Eve and then shoot to the house and get ready for Christmas morning. Like I'm not. But yeah, they had somebody play Santa Claus and instead of all the ants coming to your house and shit like that, they would just give Santa Claus the gifts to give everybody while he was there. Awesome parties, dude. Some of the greatest times as a kid, like hanging out with my cousins and my You know, my uncle's and so as I got older because the party still went on, but you know, you get older and then now you're one of the guys sitting at the bar with them and drinking and shit. By the time I got to the drinking part, she got well, that guy passed away and then my grandmother moved somewhere. So like my mom did it one year. Yeah. My aunt, Debbie, had it. It kind of rotated. And although my grandmother's parties are great, my the parties that. Herbie: with the bear skin. ⁓ Shamus: And oh, my mom's house, dude, when we hosted it, it was all good. was all. Yeah, it was crazy. So, but yeah, it's that's pretty much my two grandmothers and. Herbie: Turn up time. Well, what about like the women that are like your moms like, you know Shamus: Oh, there's a ball. We got we we got one a mutual. Yeah, Terry. Yeah. That's Terry. Yeah. Christ, when I moved to Riverside in April of 85, I met, you know, Bobby. Yeah. And the first day I walked in the door, that was it. Yeah, it was that was she was like my second mom. And she was always. Yeah. She was always there when I needed to. If I. Oh, yeah, she's still there. And she told me that, you know, at the wake after my mom's thing. Herbie: there man. Shamus: She pulled me aside and she was just like, you you ever need anything? Yeah, my boy. Yeah, I got you. So, yeah, Mr. McQuain has been doing it. Christ, forever. And her and my mom were really good friends. Yeah. Which meant a lot to me because, you my mom. Yeah, yeah, they used to come down all the time when we when they lived riverside. And sometimes when they moved to Southampton, they would still come down for, you know, certain parties and stuff like that. So, yeah, they always stay close. And she's another one. Herbie: Thanks, man. connections there, Shamus: that not only just me and you, but she takes care of so many guys. Like when there's a party at her house, man, she's on it. Herbie: Yeah, I mean, they like exactly because mom, you know, Terry, she always a place to stay. Food to eat. It's just it's just I mean, there's. There's like not going without at that household, man, that house. They really do treat me like family and that family is responsible for giving me like the greatest 50th birthday surprise party of my life. You know. Shamus: We yet? Yeah, it's when you're going to eat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was done at their house. Herbie: Yeah, definitely. Terry is definitely a mom and my, my, my friend TJ who's no longer with us may the force be with you forever. TJ. Uh, my other mom, Ronnie, she's still my mom too. call her mom and she always calls me, you know, like I, I'm still like, if I get in trouble, she gives me like that, you know, she gives her the first middle and last name. So I was like, ah, crap. I know I'm in trouble. Yeah. So I basically got like two or three, like main moms. You know, like friend moms, like they're like family that really just treat me like a son and I love them to death. And of course I still have my mama, thank God. And so, you know, of course she's mama's number one, Shamus: Yeah, besides besides Terry there was mrs. Bruskis. Yeah, and I'll tell you what between my mom Terry and Miss Bruskis, they were three of the toughest women I've ever heard. Yeah, tough tough. Herbie: strong women man with a big freaking heart man. Shamus: Yeah, Miss Brascus tell you straight. And she had that at New York because she was from Secaucus. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. So she's she give I'm not I can't even say some of the shit she would say to you do would make sailors blush. Yeah. But she said it was it was coming from a place of love She was awesome. She walked out the door one day and I was walking up the walk, you know, me and Mike, because Mike was my best friend in all the world after Bobby moved. Like I met Mike and it was just, I mean, we joined the army together and all that stuff like that. was walking up the driveway together in the house and she was walking out and she looks at me she goes, is he that fucking dumb for you? Herbie: It was a... Shamus: I don't know what are you talking about? She's like you would think I raised the dumbest fuck on the planet Hey Michael, is the mail here? Is the noob saver here? I don't know mom Hey Michael Did the mail come yet? I don't know I wanted to look at this fucking kid and go hey Michael is the fucking sky blue and if he says I don't know I'm gonna put one of these right in his fucking sack hole Herbie: Really? you ⁓ Shamus: She was like Joe Pesci with boobs from like Goodfellas. She was hysterical, but I'll tell you what, man, if you ever needed a place to stay, you need money. Amazing cook. He was a great lady, man. But she was tough because she raised three boys by herself. Their dad, I'd never got a chance to meet him. He passed away early. He had a heart attack and she was on her own. Like she moved from Seacock, his down to the Lanko and raised three boys. They all. Thomas and Michael joined the army. Chris went to the Marines. And she raised three tough boys, Herbie: Now was she like that mom that actually would sit at the kitchen table smoking cigarettes all the time? ⁓ yeah, that's when you know, that's when you got a goodin' man. I got like some other moms too, like not just Terry. ⁓ There's Aunt Cookie from New York, Aunt Liz, Aunt Fran, and Ronnie from here. So basically I had like five of the major big hitters were like, know, the ones that, and a lot of them. Shamus: Huh. Herbie: Aunt Liz was from the Bronx, so of course she was an Italian lady. She's like, ⁓ my God, Carmen, I love your coffee. And she would be like, dude, would you sit there and bullshit and just, you know, at the kitchen table. Smoking like crazy just bullshitting while the kids are running around and same thing with all the other like ants that I had except Aunt Cookie. Aunt Cookie didn't smoke but you know she was just like one of those where like as soon as you came to the house it was just like it was like your house it was like family you just relax you sleep wherever you want you know you had a bed you had you know you had meals yeah like everyone just took you in and it was just it's a very warm and welcoming type of thing I'm really appreciate for all those all those moms out there. Shamus: Yeah, a lot of my aunts were like that too. anytime we went somewhere, it was like you were their kid too. Like if they were hosting a party at their house, they were always make sure you get something to eat, da da da, or, you know, get Seamus a plate. So yeah, like, especially, yeah, my mom's side was pretty good with that. My dad's side was really good with that. My aunt Rosie, my aunt Mary, Teresa, all really good just. And not even women or mothers, just good people, man. ⁓ And like I said, I have a lot of great, I'm kind of lucky to have the childhood that I had and the people that surrounded me. They always kept me in line. And then when I did get out of line, they were always quick to, okay, it's a mistake, let's go and. Herbie: Yeah, because this was even back in the day where like, you know, your other moms and stuff like that, can crack you. It's not a damn problem. ⁓ yeah. Yeah, don't think they're like, you know, you had your other second moms, everybody like that. were just, you can just do whatever the hell you want. It was like, no, there was rules. And if you broke the rules, were goddamn consequences. You get your ass kicked too, just like everybody else. get a freshie. Same thing with my mom's friend that went to nursing school, Margie. She's like another mom too, but she had two kids. Shamus: Like you weren't just getting it from your mom. Herbie: And they would always get into fights and she would always like to go on these day trips and stuff. So basically it be like the small car, my mom would be on the passenger side, Aunt Margie would be driving, and I'd be in the middle because I was the smallest. And Jake was the older boy and he was bigger. And Rachel was younger, but she was the girl. So if Jake started things up, man, it was basically that type of thing. like, Jake, don't make me pull this fucking car over. I'm going to come out and beat the shit out you. And he would just keep on antagonizing her. And he would just beat, she would just beat the shit out of him. And I'm just, a lot of times like it would be like, if there was something going on, because like either Jake would start with Rachel or Rachel and it was just like, they're fighting between each other and I'm in the middle of, I didn't get hit by any of that stuff. But then Margie, when she's driving, she'd like reach behind with the one hand and just beat the shit out of both. Or she really would pull the cart when you pulled the car over. I'm telling you everybody right now, did like anyone that's listening to this stuff. If a seasoned woman pulls a car over, you are getting your ass kicked. You are definitely getting your ass kicked. I don't know what it's like now, because I'm sure everyone's got these LED screens in the back of their freaking cars and everyone can watch Elmo or whatever the hell. But back in the day, they pulled the car over, you were getting your ass beat, and nobody that saw the beatings would stop and help. They would just watch or just drive by. Shamus: Yeah, listen man back in our day some people pull over like hey man. Let me get something out of that. Yeah Herbie: Like ass whoopin's in department stores, ass whoopin's in supermarkets. I remember I seen one lady Shamus: ⁓ Herbie: especially like at a party or something like that you ⁓ You were you were getting hit so many times you thought you were surrounded and was one lady ⁓ Shamus: Like some kind of gang initiation. Herbie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, ⁓ you got keyed up, bro. Yeah, I mean like nowadays It's like you know with that time out and all that other bullshit So all you guys were now with all the damn getting brought up by like these nice moms And they want to be your friend and everything that's nice, but you're gonna grow up to be a dick face anyway You gotta put a foot in someone's ass after a while Shamus: You're absolutely right. ⁓ man. And this is and I know some people are probably gonna get pissed off when I say this. A lot of people like in school I work at now there's this kid that runs around like a maniac and nobody addresses it. Yeah. It's just a total animal. And they're just like okay well you know they send them to like the little psychiatrist at a social work and they talk to them and I'm just like listen. Herbie: Yeah, it's gonna keep coming. Shamus: whether autistic or da da da or just an asshole. One thing every human being understands is pain. Yeah. And a quick smack. You don't have to pummel the kidney off it. My parents, they were like to me, they were the road warriors from wrestling. I mean, they tore my ass up. like nowadays, don't I don't want to say beat your kid, but listen. Herbie: You're not giving like a whole park. Shamus: They understand like a quick foot in the ass and like, okay, I can't do this kind of thing. And that's society's lost at. My mom was never my friend. Yeah, your mom. She was my mom. And to the day she died, was my mom. That woman scared the shit out of me. The day, the morning she died told me she was on the couch and like she was grasping her chest and all that. I was like, hey, you all right? Because it actually wasn't morning. It was like 1230. I said, I got it. Herbie: Yeah, kids are like, I'm gonna call Difus. I'm like, we'll go. Shamus: Because I was in full uniform, I'm getting ready go to work. And I was just like, yo, you good? And she looks at me and she was just like, yeah, I'm good, go to work. Don't miss a day at work. And I was like, all right. So she closed her eyes again and I just sat there for a minute. This is the last thing she ever said to me. This is no bullshit. She looked up, after 30 seconds she opened her eyes and she was like, what are you looking at, punk? And then winked at me. And then I was like, all right, she's good. I was halfway to work when my sister called and said she called me in. So I mean, they were just tough women, man, that just, it's insane. And she told me to go to work. I was scared to death. I was like, all right, I'm going to work. Because she wasn't my friend, she was my mother and she taught me everything. And one thing I did, don't even know, I love my father. A lot of people say we look alike, which is absolutely hideous. I can't stand it. ⁓ And I do have a lot of history, but a lot of people say like you're, cause me and her had the same person out at same sarcastic, quick wit. Cause my mom was his star. Yeah. Yeah. I remember one time I was at the bottom of the steps. I was like 12 or 13 and I had this pair of Nikes dude that had holes in them. They were just, mean, it did beat the shit and she's holding them over the trash bag. She's upstairs doing spring cleaners. I'm not, was like, no. those are my battle shoes. And she was like, ⁓ yeah? Well, they just lost a fucking war. ⁓ Herbie: the Shamus: So I mean, stuff like that. when we first moved into Riverside before we had the new roof put on, we used to get bats. Yeah. So my sister's like, there's a bat flying around up here. And I was like, it's in your room. It's not mine. Go fuck off. So she's like, no. So she's like, I don't want to go downstairs by myself. I said, right, so we go downstairs. My dad was working third shift doing whatever. So. We tell my mom, she's always sitting on the corner of the couch. And at the time, I think she was still smoking. She quit smoking when she was 40, but she was reading like one of them trashy romance novels. Yeah, some shit like that. And we were like, yo, there's a bat upstairs. And she was just like, huh? So like, I don't know why I would love to have a picture of this. I had like a football helmet on. She had my hot. My mom had the hockey helmet with the cage on. My sister was behind us like a batting helmet. Herbie: Daniel Steele Shamus: We're all wearing like some kind of sports equipment on our heads and my mom's got a broom and she's in front of us going up the steps now I've ever been in my old house my parents house ⁓ The steps were there was no railing right there was just yeah So like if you were on the steps, it was like Indiana Jones You had to get off the steps because the ball came rolling down like you're done dude We got to the top of the steps and like she's tiptoeing. It's so And Herbie: walls. Shamus: It was so quiet, dude. I was like, Oh my God, I can't hold it in. I let like, she fucking hit the seat. just like Jennifer gray in first, you were staying over. She jumped in the air and turned around in mid air, landed around me and my sister clean over. Herbie: Ha! Ha ha ha! Shamus: ⁓ We're like laying there like a cartoon like what the footprints are Of course we went downstairs. He's like what happened? was like Jamie was like she was farting and of course I got the ⁓ Herbie: Yeah Like actually I have like a story like I used to have like when I was a little kid I had this little teddy bear and it was a stuffed animal and after a while my mom wanted you know She wanted to clean it and I was like, you know I'm thinking like, you know My teddy bear guy is alive and I don't want him going to wash machine cuz he's gonna drown So one day I come back from Catholic school. So like when I had a house in In the Bronx we had like the apartment and you can walk into my room And it was a straight run and behind the from the door is straight run to the back window. And the back window was actually where the clothesline was. So I come back from school and I'm all tired. And I look in, as soon as I get in into the house and basically walk towards my room, I could see on the other side, the back window, she's got my teddy bear hanging from its ear. Shamus: Close one. Herbie: I was freaking out. I was like, oh my god, my teddy bear is dead. I was freaking out. She's like, look, it's just clean. was just like she was like, it was just so goddamn dirty. I had to clean it. I'm sorry, Pop. I was like, no, no, no. But I was just like, it was just like in the movies, man. I have my backpack on and a little like, you know, Catholic school uniform on. I was just like, you know, a long day from school, you know, it's just like I dropped everything and it was just like my jacket and everything. was like, no, no teddy bears. Blowing in the breeze, just hanging by his ears, you know? Yeah, man. It was funny. you know, like, yeah, me and my mom always talk about that every once in a while. But there's there's always like just wonderful memories I have of my childhood with my mother that, you know, that she everything that she's done for me. I remember even as a little kid, like in fifth grade, she was always a stay at home mom. And she wanted to be a nurse. always wanted to be a nurse. is, I think she used to do like part-time, like, like candy stripe girl or something like that back in the Bronx. But, I used to help her study to become a nurse. And I would like quiz her and I was just like, you know, I remember like she failed like I think the boards twice, but it was just by like a point or two or something like that. And she was like, I'm just going to quit. And I remember me giving her a pep talk. When we lived in Hamilton, I got her out back in the backyard and she's, I had her, sat her down like on the, on the back steps and I told her like that she's going to become a great nurse. And I ⁓ I what I said, but it was just like this big ⁓ inspirational Shamus: I can't speak, yeah. It's just like, ugh. Herbie: It was just like I forget what I said, but I remember she just sat there and she was just like she was like, you know sad that she paid that she failed and I kept on telling like no mama you could do it you could do it and I was like when I was in fifth grade, so I remember I made a bookmark for her and it was I drew her like sitting in the chair taking the test and I wrote like, you know A's all over it like she's gonna get an A and everything. Shamus: Yeah Herbie: And then, sure enough, I think it was like maybe two days after the, you know, the little pop up pep talk, mama passed the test and she came to nurse. I remember seeing, you know, there's like at the graduation and everything. I was just so proud of her and she was so proud of herself. You know, I was just, and she's been a nurse ever since she's retired now, but, you know, just mom's always there for you, man. And just like, you know, it's just almost like a natural thing to, to want to be there for her. And now that she's getting older, of course, you always feel like I want to. Shamus: There you go. Herbie: you know, protector even more now than I did before because, you know, moms are like super moms, you know what mean? Like when they're never sick, you know what I mean? So like when they get older and they get more tired and stuff like that, you always just worry about them and just want to make sure they're okay and protect them. Shamus: Yeah, and it's like I said, I lost my mom back in 2020. So for all our listeners out there, one thing I do want to preach or, you know, kind of give you is if you're fortunate enough to still have your mom with you or your grandmother, make sure that you do take the time, let them know. I was, I don't know if the fortunate is the word I would use or maybe unfortunate, but I was actually there the day they pretty much told her that, you know. the cancer took it over and she'd only had like six months. Of course we went and got a second opinion and it was the same thing. And she never cried, she never did a da, she was like, okay, well this what we need to do, da, da, da, and she still had that same sense of humor. But one thing I did do, and I probably should have done it earlier in life, but when you're a kid you don't realize it, and when I mean kid I mean like 20s, 30s, is I actually, because she made me the executor. But why we were doing all that stuff, like I kind of took the time to, because there was times, like I was kind of an ass, like just a fuck up. Like I did stuff and like my grades, I was in summer school and like I know it killed her, ⁓ but you don't see that. ⁓ And like I kind of, in those six months, like I kind of conveyed, like we went through my whole, like I went through my whole ⁓ life and was like, look, you know, for this, I'm sorry for that, da da, you know. And she just shrugged it off. Like, was just like, yeah, your kid, make mistakes. That's just what it is. Not that she shrugged it off, she listened to me, but I just wanted to convey that. And I told her how much I truly, not only just loved her, but appreciated everything she did for me to get me to where, because there was times like, you're gonna end up by your dad, because my dad did some time in jail when he was younger. Not that I was a total maniac or anything, but I just do stupid shit. And for... There was six months I made a point to make sure I was there forever back and call. It was during COVID so she couldn't leave the house. So I did all the grocery shopping and all that stuff. But I conveyed everything I wanted to her. Like before the day she went, like there was nothing I had to get off my chest. So make sure you guys are doing that too. Make sure you let them know how you feel and you know that you do appreciate them and and cherries every moment. Because I know some people, some of my buddies are like, ⁓ my mom's such a pain. I got to go to my mother's and cut her grass and stuff. Dude, there's nothing I would, because I did all that for my mom. There's nothing I wouldn't do to go over there and shovel snow or cut her lawn one more time or just to see her or have her look at me one last time. I'm what are you looking at, punk? And like, me that wink. So make sure you guys are doing that. And yeah, so what we're going to do now is we're going to go through some famous television. Herbie: Yeah, man, hug your mamas, We're famous and our mama's Shamus: Oh, no, no, no. Well, one thing I did say at her with the eulogy I gave for me and her, we are going to sit here and tell you how great our moms are, the moms that, you know, help raise us and all that stuff for our answer. You know, Terry and all the sacrifices. Yeah. But we know when I said this in a room full people like my mom was a great mom, but the world's full of them. And the world is the way it is now because of you guys. Like you guys are what makes the world go round. Like moms are everything. Yeah. What was that saying in that movie the crow? Mom is the word on the lips of every angel or something like that children. Yeah of all children so Yeah, without you guys got God knows men would be just still eating raw meat and I get out the cave somewhere with fucking line cloth and shit ⁓ Herbie: The damn wood to be gog. Gog and durr. Shamus: So, but yeah, everybody's ⁓ As long as you're taking care of your own. ⁓ We recognize that there's a of you guys, millions of you out there, it's an army. Herbie: It takes two to make one. it's just, you know, like an amalgamation of both. And, you know, the dad is more like, you know, the, supporting strength and the mom is like the nut loving and nurturing. it's just like, it just seems like, like a natural thing. It's not a, know, but there's other moms, they're like, they, they go into that mama bear phase, man, where it's, where it's time to kick some ass if they're, if their cubs are in trouble, you know what mean? Shamus: Like I said, if Star Wars was my life, my mom would be Vader. If you want me to join her side, she'll kill anybody. I give the emperor was like, she'd pick him up, throw him over the. Boy, yeah, Don't touch that, dude. But yeah, it's like I said, we would be nothing without. Herbie: Hehehehehe That's it like that Bob moms are the best and mama I know you're I wanted to interview her but you know she wasn't she hasn't been feeling well but she's good thank God but uh she was apprehensive and I keep on trying to coach her so maybe one day I'll be able to get her to come out to this and do it but um yeah mama you mean everything in the world to me mama you just everything everything you're everything to me mama I love you with all my heart Shamus: Yeah, and I'd say the same to my mom. know she's with me. yeah. Yeah, thanks for everything. That goes the same for you, man. There's some people in life that's just kind of like, ⁓ yeah, but I've met your mom and she's a tremendous woman, dude. Herbie: She raised a great son, bro. I'm stuck. would not even be anywhere near you. my God. Remember, think, remember like, think Danielle and Charlene always talk about like, the once she was taking tap dance lessons for a little bit. So I think like, I don't know if you were there. I think that might've been, I think it might've like, like before the apple juice and that Captain Morgan's incident for you. Shamus: But that's between me, you and the Lord. That church park a lot. Herbie: And then tree up But yes, she was like where it was like me Danielle and Charlene and I thank you but like ⁓ we were just bullshit in the in the living room and mom She went out and she got her tap shoes and stuff. And of course that we have like hardwood floors So she came she's like Papa look at me. She's all doing little tippy taps and stuff like that There's like so many like things and like my mom like the hugging her is the most Fantastic hug in the world man. It's just like you know so I know you're get back into like the famous moms, but Just all you guys like and shamus is right shamus's mom was a fantastic lady, too I I I loved meeting her and she was cool as shit, and she she was really kind to me and She raised a wonderful son, man Shamus: That's it. Thanks, I'll tell you what man at your 50th when I Looked over your mom and I'm like, what is with the Star Wars shit? ⁓ yeah, I didn't say shit because yeah What is what the Star Wars thing and she was just like, ⁓ puppy. Let me and yeah the way she I wish I could give it to the listeners man because that was the funniest goddamn thing I've ever I've ever heard man Herbie: That's her. All the Star Wars stuff, it's mama's fault. She brought me into it. That was the first movie I saw at Alexander's in the Bronx. And she also, she taught me how to read better. Yeah, think like when I was like, yeah, was like basically like we didn't have a lot of money So like a lot of the field trips that we would do is like we would go to the Bronx Zoo on Wednesday because it was free And then we also go to the library and mom would always like cook it up like guess what pop I'm gonna take you to the library and there you could pick whatever Book you want to read and I'm gonna even get you your own library card. I was like Shamus: Is that the New York City Public Library where they Jodas Busters? Herbie: Pretty much man. But this one was like in the Bronx. was like right actually right down the street was like within walking distance from the apartment in the Bronx. ⁓ Yeah, so was just like field trips there, you know to the library and I get my books and I'd read, read like crazy. was I forget what level I was I think I was like in kindergarten. I was like maybe at like fourth or fifth grade level reading. So like she just like she and she always kept me like in the cultures, art. She take me to museums. She took me to see Sandy Duncan and on Broadway as Peter Pan. Um, she, she's just done everything, everything, sacrificed everything for me, just everything to make me happy. There was a lot, even a lot of times now, like when I went to Japan, I had like, there was a part of me that didn't want to go. just want to make sure she's okay. She's like, no, no, no, you gotta go. You gotta go. Just, you know, I was just like, all right, I just want to make sure you're okay. As long as mom is fine. I'm good. And the same thing like at the party at the 50th you know, I was like, um, as long as mom is okay, I'm going to have a great time. So a lot of times. Shamus: I mean, she was. I'll tell you what, I laughed. I laughed hysterically because before she told me to start when that guy walked into yard and your eyes left and walked over and you like stood in front of him. She like she had this tear rolled out. She was just like, ⁓ my God. Yeah, like. Herbie: She was there for all the Darth Vader stuff. Yeah, cause like even like back in the day when- Shamus: But then I was like, it's Herbie. yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So she knows how geeked up he is about it. She's so happy to see this. Tears of joy. Herbie: She was with me when we used to go to the movies like all of them like New Hope Empire Strikes Back Return of the Jedi and she loved Darth Vader and she was like, yeah, he's boss I was like the term that she used cuz he was like all impressive and stuff and you know when she was like, oh my god I can't believe that's his that's his Luke Skywalker's father Oh my god, and then you know like in return of the Jedi when he got like he just sat there watching like the Emperor torture Luke and you know Vader just grabbed him and I saw her like how like how much she loved that scene because like Vader was like enough of this shit. This is my son and just grabbed him and chucked his ass over the banister and fell into the reactor and stuff so she's always been like supportive with like all my little nerdisms and all that stuff so ⁓ mama again you're you're everything to me man you made me the man i am and i love you mama yeah man happy mother's day to everybody but yeah let's talk about the famous moms Shamus: Yeah, happy Mother's Day. Well, when TV moms or film moms, what's the first one that comes to your mind? We'll go back and forth. Yeah. Herbie: I'm basically The one I know like everyone's gonna say like that Brady Bunch mom I'm like, okay, but ⁓ for me, I'm gonna go movie wise I'm gonna go with the mom from Lost Boys She's sweet as anything She went through all that stuff and had a goddamn, you know vampire come to her house and it was just like she was like her movies are just sweet Shamus: C. Emerson. Never told her like at the end of movies. Yes, I want to think about this place all that damn fam Hey dad, you could have fucking told Herbie: Like what they mean might have been a vampire Like day one You know I was like yeah, he's like I got a great idea. I know you're going through a divorce you should move in with me Santa Carlisle bring all your kids. ⁓ yeah, there's vampires, but anyway just come on over to the house. I'll take care of you Don't drink my root beer Shamus: I'm gonna take a home run right off the board here. I'm gonna go with, cause she was not only a mom, great, well, maybe not a great mom, but not a mom in just one TV series she was to, and that was, what the hell's her name in real life? Katie Seagal, Peg Bundy, and then when she was in Son of Advocates, I her name in that, Gemma. Herbie: She's still a hottie too, may God bless her. that's definitely MILF material. Shamus: Yeah, I was. ⁓ She was the quintessential 80s. Like that whole bomb bombs on the couch. ⁓ yeah. Watching workout videos. I'm not working out. I'm just watching them. It's just. And a leopard print. Yeah. And then when she resurfaced as Gemma on Sons of Anarchy, I was just like, ⁓ my God, she went from like this fun loving, wisecracking, you know, peg Bundy to. ⁓ Herbie: care. Yeah. Shamus: Like this monster Gemma that you know, sexy, will kill you. that's crazy. Yeah, she's a great, great TV mom. Yeah. Both of those things. What do you got? We'll do five a piece. This be your number two. Herbie: the chopper Actually, I want to say the mom from what's happening I forget her name, but she was always sweet and every time I at the end of every episode she'd hug Raj And she was a big woman. So like and Raj was like this little skinny guy Think so. Yeah, I forget but she was like mama. I can't breathe But she was always so sweet, but you know and and if you think about you know She it looks like she was a single mom. had it. You know, she had a she had two kids But she raised him the right way Shamus: That wasn't ⁓ Herbie: and raising with good friends, you know what mean? It's just like a support, know, the house was taken care of, you know, the lights are on, their food's written in their belly and everything. So that's another good mom for me. Shamus: Okay, I'm gonna go with Miss Huxtable. From the Cosby show. She was a tough lady, man. ⁓ yeah. I mean, guess she had to be. Yeah, she's. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, yeah, She was a lawyer, so you if you've you lied, that's it. She knew she knew you were boo Shamus: Bullshit and I know a lot of people because of what he did ⁓ a lot of people kind of You know how society now just takes history wipes it off the board That show doesn't get the credit that it deserves There was an episode. It's the Thanksgiving episode where it is like monsooning out and Every time she goes to make some she's like, my god, I forgot the butter and you know Bill Cosby's like Cliff his name. He's like, ⁓ So every time he opens the door, it's like all this wind in the Herbie: ⁓ yeah, just. Shamus: leaves combines raining and stuff and then he comes in he's a mess and then she's like hey can you go back to the store i forgot this and every time you have to it's just and the hat gets lower and lower dude that is one of my favorite episodes but he was willing to die to get whatever that lady needed Herbie: Sorry. Plus when mom says it sends you on a food run is basically my mom would you almost do kind of things like that with my dad too so like if there was like dinner and stuff like that she's like you better go get it you ain't eating and sure enough he'd go get that shit Number three I want to say ⁓ god. I have to take this one, but a Marissa tome. Yeah, may Shamus: Hell yeah. All right, what do you got for number three? Yeah, and they from Spider-Man. Herbie: She is a she it's just a wonderful and actually, know, like the original Aunt May from like, you know the comics and stuff like that because it's like Shamus: character itself and all the people that played it. Yeah. Herbie: just like that nurturing, self-sacrificing type thing that like, she was older and Peter was just like this superhero that like that kind of drive that he got to actually to be selfless and it was ingrained by Aunt May and Ben. ⁓ Gives you a moral compass. Like good moms give you a good moral compass. Shamus: I'm gonna go with Mrs. Griswold. Herbie: ⁓ Beverly D'Angelo, yeah. Shamus: And not so much for because, you know, you remember European vacation. yeah. But that part in Christmas vacation where Swat comes through the window and they're like freeze and she's got his hand on his shit. And then boss comes in and she's like, hey, how you doing? And like, and then puts it right back. Yeah. Crashes junk. Herbie: Yeah. She's like dude not only that you like Clark actually released that sex tape video of her and like in Rome So I'm surprised like, know, she's still with him So yeah Beverly D'Angelo, especially all like the Tom just the shit that they went through and like in all those movies and she's still stuck around and she's just a loyal good wife and Clark's just a complete fuck-up man Shamus: I don't know. She's always so cop like when Randy Quaid is pumping all that sewage. ⁓ yeah. And she's like, hey, Clark, he was like, morning. He's like, hey, you should have full due check our shitters morning. She's like, hey, Clark, you know, doesn't like it. What are you doing? She's just like, you know, it doesn't know any better. Herbie: This is really went through a lot of stuff. She's sweet. ⁓ I'm thinking I actually like what's her face from all in the family. She's like, ⁓ I. Yeah, Edith Bunker. She was sweet, Shamus: Who you got next, bud? ⁓ I got that written down. Eat his balls. See, that's the kind of mom that we caught the tail end of, like the housekeeper, the one that didn't have a job, that just stayed home and made sure everything was taken care of. Almost like the mom, and I don't wanna take it off the board, but we'll just kinda classify them all together. The mom from the wonder years. ⁓ She just always stayed home, cooked, clean. I mean, it seemed like the lady was just constantly cooking, like in the morning, breakfast, do dishes, lunch, da da da. Yeah, that was before... houses had more than one car and they only had one TV. You know what I mean? Like they just stay at home, but great pull, man. mean, God, being married to him. Herbie: Bye, chief. God bless him, Shamus: I'm gonna go with Sarah Connor. Terminator Mom. Herbie: Yeah, yeah. I mean, she's a badass too, man. She's fighting robots and terminators. Jesus, broke out of a psychiatric hospital. Shamus: Yeah, and she gave birth to the guy who's trashing them dudes, man. Mom for all mankind. ⁓ So you got one more? Herbie: Savior of the man's future ⁓ ⁓ god that is a good one Jesus Christ that's a good Sarah Conner's a good one I don't want to say the Brady Bunch mom ⁓ God. Shamus: I'll tell you what, we'll take, what's her face off the board too? The Partridge family mom. Herbie: Actually, you know what dude, I like the Partridge family. Yeah, you know what that's gonna be mine the Partridge family mom Do the gig and stuff too man Dad I don't know if she had the same hair as Brady Bunch mom, but the Partridge family is cool though man. She had like the whole family Crap yeah, right. That's all you really Shamus: She was cute and grandmom's boy. What the hell is her name in real life? down here is written as Miss Partridge. Jay was here, he was like, ⁓ I met her, I got her autograph. ⁓ Which is great, because I'd love to meet her. Herbie: Oh, yeah. Yeah, met her in the lounge. had like a couple of Manhattan's drinks together. Like, Jesus Christ. Probably. I mean, Jason's met like everybody. Shamus: All right, I'm going to take one that we missed. Yeah. Huge, Name. Marge Simpson. Herbie: ⁓ yeah. And she puts up lot of shit with Homer, Shamus: ⁓ no, damn Bart. Yeah. She know that, you know, that TV show is the second longest running TV show of all time. Right behind Sesame Street. Herbie: I imagine so that things still run out. when I was actually just like those shorts. Yeah. Shamus: Tracy Oman. Yeah. And we got a couple of honorable mentions here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We got Kitty Foreman from the 70 show. Stifflers mom. Oh, yeah. Stacey's mom. Oh, we used to cover that song. I used to love that. Yeah. Mrs. Gump. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, yeah, definitely kitty. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah, Sally Field, God bless her. Your mama sure do care about your schooling, He's on vacation. Shamus: I was going to say, anybody was willing to do that. ⁓ Mrs. Soprano, ⁓ she's a mom, ⁓ Pesci's mom, which was a Scorsese mom. Yeah. And good fellows. Yeah. Three o'clock in the morning and she's feeding all this. Yeah. What does some dead? I have dead dude in the trunk. He's like, hi Bart, it's never got the hoof stuffed in the. Yeah. ⁓ Herbie: Test them out. It's like, hey, mind if I borrow this knife? A little little hoof the Paul, I just got to cut that out. Like, I had to sit and if I don't get rid of it. Shamus: I thought what her at the wedding because my a lot of my aunts and sometimes my mom never did it because she understood but my grandmother my dad's mom nanny the one with the squeaky voice Yeah, and like some of my aunts look at your friend. He's settling down now. He's married He's having kids. When are you gonna settle down? And I would always give that answer ⁓ Herbie: Yeah, mom's always trying to fix you up, Shamus: Yeah, well my mom, she always told me she knew. There was one girl, she told me, that was one of the conversations we had in the six months. I was like, yeah, I'm sorry I never got married, because she's got, she had three grandsons. And I knew I was getting the skirt, because my sister had Kevin after high school. My brother had his real young, ⁓ so they were like five and six. So ⁓ when I got the military, she already had three grandsons. So as time went on, just kind of never found the right one and I didn't want to rush anything because when you're in law enforcement, you see all these guys getting divorced and law enforcement, everybody's sleeping when people, shouldn't be sleeping 90 % of the time. So towards the end, I kind of like, hey, I'm sorry I couldn't give you, because I knew I was getting a granddaughter. I was getting a chick and I was getting a skirt. And she was just like, I knew since you were five years old, you were never getting married. Really? Yeah. She's like, you wanted no parts of it. And I was just kind of like, Damn, I'm making it sound like I'm gay. But she was like, oh, no, no, you were all about the girls. But like, just like anything else, like you just kind of. Hey, this is cool, man. And when it wasn't cool, you were just like, oh, no, no, no. Yeah, she was like, but there was one. And she was right. I'm not going to mention names. And if she's listening to this, she knows who she is. There was one. She was like, if anybody could have done it, it was her. And probably, well, maybe not to this day, but up until recently, about four or five years ago, she probably still could have. Yeah, but yeah. Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: She knew, but she, I mean, that's why she never tried. My grandmother was always like, I was like, nah. Herbie: My mom's like that too because I'm not married to no children. So, you know, I'm sure like in the back Shamus: You're that girls like yeah, I have a lady friends I can't say that so for all you women out there listening to this Herbie: I'm most likely to have girls and twins. There's like twins running in my ⁓ in my jeans. I'm like, ⁓ geez Shamus: That's what I always told my mom. was like, if I start pumping out kids, it's going to be like a girl's JV basketball team. There's going be like eight or nine of them. ⁓ see the bathroom again. Yeah. ⁓ Herbie: Yeah, that's the one thing I get nervous about. Ever. Ever. You barely have to call super-scooper heroes because you're have to take it and take the crap out in the backyard. Yup. Shamus: ⁓ I mean, it's like I said, I'd rather not have a kid and have them grow up in a shitty environment where we're fighting and that's one thing I never wanted. Herbie: He's been apprehensive about stuff like that too. It's not like I don't believe in love or relationships and stuff like that. Sometimes you see too many things that go awry and the kid's stuck in the middle with that stuff. Especially sometimes you have parents that stick together just for the sake of the kids but know stuff's awkward and off or they're constantly arguing. It can be all these types of home situations. Shamus: Well, see, that was kind of weird. And I'll hit on this before we wrap this up. And I always thought because my parents, they argued a lot. Yeah. But it was more. I raising three kids and running us to practice and doing this and cooking dinner and doing that. I think it was maybe more stress induced. Oh, yeah. And I always thought that was one of the reasons. And I told my mom this. I said, that's one of the reasons why I won't get married, because I just I can't stand when people yell. Yeah. And that might be a product of that. Oh, yeah. I just don't want to argue with people. And she was like, that's not what it's always I said, no, I get it. Yeah, because I've seen them at their at their best. Yeah. But there was times I was a kid, I was like, man, this shit ain't gonna last. They're going to get the war. And what to do with because he went first, he went and he died in January 2014. But leading up to that, he got sick because he liked to have a nipper, too. And he kept drinking and his liver crapped out on me. I'm getting cirrhosis. He got the liver transplant. And the doctor and. That's for Father's Day, we'll get into that, but I mean, he lived way longer than he should have with the liver and stuff. But when he died, ⁓ you know, at the viewing and everybody left and stuff and she wrote with me. Yeah. So I was like, hey, you ready? We were the last two there. Yeah. And she was like, hold on a second. And she walked over to his casket and she kind of like got it the whole time. She never cried, like accepted everybody. He shook her hand. ⁓ The funeral service, I mentioned before, wasn't like a pre-straining thing. was like, tell a quick funny story about Jimmy. It was great. It was awesome. She walks over and that's when she started crying. And I was like, good? That's how our family, hey, you good? She was like, I just can't believe I'm not gonna see him. And in that moment right there, I actually saw it. I was just like, she actually, through all the bullshit, through all their arguing and all that, she actually truly, and was never gonna leave that dude. So it was pretty good to see. Herbie: And even like the other moms, the modern moms now with your cute little water bottles and all that stuff, transporting all your kids to every goddamn sports and stuff like that. God bless you, I know it's a rough schedule. It's a good job, you like modern moms, but there's a special place in the heart for the old traditional moms that we grew up with. Shamus: one thing she told me was ⁓ she did all so I could walk across the stage at high school graduation. ⁓ When I graduated Military Police Academy, she was there for that. ⁓ And then when graduated the Academy down at Seager, she was there for that. ⁓ And she told she was like, that's why I did it. She's like, when you got that job, know, when you were with the state and I knew you were good to go and now you got a pension, you got all that stuff. That was what all the bullshit was for. All the late nights of doing homework with you and all those running you to football practice or hockey practice or, you know, ripping you a new ass about getting suspended from school or da da da da. She was like, and through everything, she was like, I would do it all over again to see to get you where you are now. I believe. Herbie: That's what moms do man, some people might be pissed off like you know, they're too strict or anything like that, but when it gets down to it man That's that's that's the one woman that will always be in your fucking corner, dude. So just cherish them Shamus: I raised men. That's what I I didn't raise boys. I didn't have sons. I raised men. And I was like, oh, shit. Herbie: Yeah, some ballsy shit, Shamus: All right. So one last time, we just want to say to all the mothers out there and you don't have to, Kevin, you can be like we said earlier, pet moms or step moms. ⁓ could be a mom that never gave birth or a mom who adopted the lady I'm talking to now. She's a single mom who adopted. Well, she was married when they adopted, but like he took off and left her high and dry. Strong. ⁓ Herbie: Hell yeah. fur babies. Yeah, step ma- Single mom, especially at Shamus: and kept, she could've, I mean, turned them back in, but she kept them, raised them. I mean, I haven't had the opportunity to meet them yet. I'm looking forward to it from what I hear. They're great kids and she's done a tremendous job. So like, even if you adopt a kid, if you're a stepmom and never had your own maternal kids and stuff, whatever it is, if you're in some kind of mom role, we just want to thank you for everything. So. Herbie: That maternal instinct does ⁓ everything that you do. Shamus: All right, everybody, we're going to get up out of here. So if you get a chance after you get done loving up on your moms, happy mom, grandmoms and your great grandmoms or make sure you give us a like. A rating. You know, subscribe. ⁓ We're all these views and we're getting this thing is really taking off and grabbing momentum. So you want to make sure you're on the ground floor of this thing when we start getting like 12 to 15 listeners. Yeah. ⁓ Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: Make sure you like rate and subscribe Like I said, I'm in some of the stuff we got coming up. We are gonna do the Star Wars episode That's coming up within the next week or two. I'm again. I'm waiting for Some equipment to come in that we order for the video stuff. Most you guys know I'm an SRO I'm off. That's a school resource officer. So when the schools out for the summer, I'm off so Herbie: rising. Shamus: That's when we're going to build our set and it's going to be something. It's not going to be just a bunch of dudes sitting around a table. It's going to be some legit shit. we start having guests come on and we'll do it like live. We're going to do it on YouTube. We're talking about maybe taking this thing on the road a little bit. Maybe doing some stuff on Main Street when they have some events or, you know, I know Kirby Mills does that flea market thing. Maybe we'll rent a table. We'll go out there. We'll go talk to some of those people and stuff in September. Herbie: We'll build the deadstone. Shamus: So we got some plans coming up and everything. So just stay tuned, man. And just keep listening and we'll keep pushing them out and we appreciate all the love and support. ⁓ And happy Day. All right, everybody, make sure you get your pet spayed and neutered and control the pet population. And as always, take care of yourself and each other. Herbie: Yeah, happy Mother's Day everybody.