Latest / Podcast Championship Wrestling / Episode 46 Royal Rumble Predictions 2024!!!
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- 0:00Ash whose it is? Oh, you let me talk to I will give
- 0:11you a show like you have never ever seen before a wife because I can't.
- 0:18What do you guys want to talk about? God? To pay from
- 0:32the color of red in a world for the black and white eats of world?
- 0:41Yeah, don't you luck, there's not excusing the chap. You got
- 1:03a bad fell who Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Welcome to another
- 1:27episode of pc W podcast Championship Wrestling. I am your host, Wayne,
- 1:33and today we have a very very exciting episode. We got a shipload of
- 1:38news and uh we're getting ready for the Royal Rumble, one of my favorite
- 1:44pay per views of the year, next to WrestleMania and Survivor Series and Summers.
- 1:51But it's one of the big ones. But for me it's it's it's
- 1:55one of my damn favorite ones. Uh. But you know what we're uh
- 2:00when I'm I can't do this alone, I gotta bring out the Royal Royal
- 2:04Rumble. Uh, competitors, here we go. Yay, Ray, what's
- 2:46up bud yo yo? What a do pc W crew? Roy Rumble Time?
- 2:53It's it's it's January already, the the rumbles already here the roads.
- 2:58WrestleMania has to be gone. If dude, it comes so quickly, you
- 3:01know, oh yeah, definitely. It feels like, uh, we were
- 3:07just talking about what was it, some rival series not too long ago?
- 3:10Yeah, dude, war Games, that wasn't too long ago. Then you
- 3:15know, we had, uh we had. We had a nice little break
- 3:17between pay per views, which was really nice, you know, mm hmm
- 3:23break. Yeah, it was nice break. You know, stars got to
- 3:27spend their superstars got to spend the holiday season with their families too, which
- 3:31I've always been an advocate for at the end of the year, like,
- 3:35what what do we need wrestling for the last two weeks of the year for.
- 3:38We don't let them go home, let them enjoy Christmas and New Year's
- 3:42give them two weeks off, rest, rest up, and come back at
- 3:45the beginning of the year refresh rated to hit the ground running in the WrestleMania
- 3:47season. Absolutely, all right, man, let's bring let's bring our out
- 3:53our number two guy. Here we go. We're calling down like a bat
- 4:17on the table, down about like the break, like a whole damnable.
- 4:29I was shut it down, Doyle. Oh it's me, it's me.
- 4:33It's a Dyli and a New Year, New song. Man, if you
- 4:40we'll make it disabled and we'll put it through a table. Uh you know
- 4:45what I think? For me, my favorite version of the Dully Boys theme
- 4:50song was probably drop the Bombshell. Do you recall when they had they only
- 4:58had it for like a short time and dropped Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 5:06It was a little like round Ruthless Aggression era for a short time. When
- 5:11they reunited after you know, Divon went out on his own, did Reverend
- 5:15Devon? They got back together, they had another run. Uh yeah,
- 5:19dude, that was always like when I think, I mean this one classic,
- 5:24but like I always had that song referenced with them all the time.
- 5:29Great Doyle, you missed out in the last episode. We we did an
- 5:35interview last episode, did you hear Were you on the other end? You
- 5:42were a listener again? A peep? You were a peep? Yes,
- 5:46it must be different being on the other end of the barrier, you know,
- 5:50on the other side. You know, you got your ticket and they
- 5:55have to watch the show. Got my popcorn? Yeah all right, yeah,
- 6:01and uh he's going to wrestle me you too, like er Okay,
- 6:05So I mean it's just more and more people we have to like meet when
- 6:09we get there. It's like to me, it's like, now it's not
- 6:12just the wrestling aspect. We have like people, we gotta meet people we're
- 6:15gonna be there. It's just creating this massive list of all these people we're
- 6:21gonna have to meet up with. We're gonna have to get like maybe like
- 6:24a dinner or meet somewhere. Just get together, that would be awesome.
- 6:30Wake up at a like off to eat dinner somewhere, or at a bar
- 6:33somewhere. Granted I don't really drink like that, but mean something to have
- 6:36some sort of meet up. Yeah, dude, absolutely, off somebody else's
- 6:42meet up, and we'll be easy to find, especially in the first night.
- 6:46We'll probably all be wearing the same fucking T shirts and so it'll be
- 6:49a click. You know, we'll be around stable. Hopefully we're wearing T
- 6:55shirts and not long done. Oh dude, Yeah, getting break, let
- 7:01me come to it. Yeah right, Uh guys, let's just kick this
- 7:06off and let's get we got it like a news stuff. We got so
- 7:10much ship we got to talk about for news. So I was bored today
- 7:14and I made a news bumper. So I'm gonna play it. It's like
- 7:16a couple of seconds, it's not very long. Here we go, Well,
- 7:32I got news for you. News flash, asshole, I have to
- 7:42much time on my hands. That news flash, asshole, that got that
- 7:49really tickled me. News flip that from I can't, I can't. It's
- 7:57from Missow's Sunny and Philadelphia's Dennis. Okay, h shit, But yeah,
- 8:05dude, where do I even begin? Let should we talk about the elephant
- 8:09in the room. Let's talk about Yeah, start with the obvious, right,
- 8:15uh so ww RAW is going from the us A network to Netflix.
- 8:26It's going to Netflix. We're talking thirty one years it's been on cable television
- 8:33and we're going to fucking Netflix. Like I had, of all people,
- 8:37And I'll be honest with you guys, like I didn't see this coming.
- 8:41Like I knew as in, like I didn't see Netflix being the one.
- 8:46I knew that somebody there's a lot of people bidding on it. I knew
- 8:50there's a lot of whispers that like, oh, you know, Comcast is
- 8:52trying to get it, this company's trying to get it, Disney is trying
- 8:56to get it. And I was like, oh god, please, no,
- 8:58I don't want need to get ahold of w W in any way shape
- 9:03or yeah. So it's like it was a lot of out there. Yeah.
- 9:07So like for me seeing that Netflix picked up like that surprised the hell
- 9:11had me. But I was really happy because like, financially, it's literally
- 9:16doubled then what they're making, Like they're making like two hundred and fifty million
- 9:20a year with USA Network and now this will be five hundred million. And
- 9:24they signed a five year contract. You know this, this is gonna be
- 9:31very different. Guys, like, oh ten year. I thought it was
- 9:35a five year, ten year. Oh ten year, five billion, okay,
- 9:41okay. So, like you know, when they launched the ww app,
- 9:46it was so nice getting all our content in one spot. And then
- 9:54eventually they sold it and they sold it to Peacock and then now all are
- 10:00content is on Peacock, and that that was different. That was an adjustment
- 10:03we all made, especially going from pay per views, like buying pay per
- 10:09views, you know, or going to a bar and having to watch pay
- 10:13per views, to like it now being on the app for nine to ninety
- 10:16nine. I mean, that was that was a huge change for the company,
- 10:18and it's changed for us fans and like, you know, like I
- 10:24wish one day, you know, a little no ramp, but like I
- 10:28kind of hope that UFC does the same thing, because right now UFC's pay
- 10:31per views are like eighty dollars a piece, up to eighty dollars, and
- 10:35it's fucking hard to pull that kind of trigger because even pay per views,
- 10:39wrestling pay per reviews at that time, we're starting to get into like the
- 10:43sixty five dollars range for like an HD version. You remember that you had
- 10:48the option if you wanted to watch it in standard or HD that we're awkward
- 10:54transitional. Yeah, can you imagine like being the guy who invite all your
- 10:58friends and there, like, dude, this guy, dat me get the
- 11:00HD version? What a what a fucking cheap dude? So I always got
- 11:05the HG because I never wanted to be that guy. Uh. But yes,
- 11:09So now we're talking about Monday Night RAW, it might not even be
- 11:13Monday Night. They might change that too, you know the way the there's
- 11:18gonna be no ads. I guess this is gonna be add free. That's
- 11:24a big question. I don't know that we have the big question. Yeah,
- 11:30we don't really have a definitive answer, but I would imagine that it's
- 11:35going to be I don't I don't see how they can still make it a
- 11:41three hour show, for one, because even Raw as it is now is
- 11:46not truly three hours of content. It's roughly maybe half of that. So
- 11:50I can see it being much I can see it probably maybe being two hours
- 11:54straight of content. But Netflix does have I believe, a like a bottom
- 12:01barrel tier of service where that is as supported, and I don't think that
- 12:05those people are suddenly gonna get Raw without ads, So I think there's still
- 12:11it'll probably still air like a regular episode of Monday Night Raw that we'll just
- 12:18have I guess, maybe pauses in the action at some point or something like
- 12:22that, where Netflix can shove in the ads for the ad tier supported or
- 12:28the ad supported tier of subscribers, and the show itself may strenk down from
- 12:33three hours to maybe two hours and just be much more consistent and jam pack
- 12:39without having as many commercial breaks per se as what we get now. You
- 12:46know what, if they're gonna give me ads, give me ads for stuff
- 12:50that you have on Netflix, because if Netflix is bad at one fucking thing,
- 12:56it's advertising. Uh, you know, I don't know how many times
- 12:58I've gone on Netflix and holy shit, I didn't know this was on here.
- 13:03Well, they never advertised it, you know, Amazon, HBO,
- 13:07Disney, especially Disney, they advertised the shit out of the other stuff.
- 13:11So I kind of know what's coming. But like you know, with especially
- 13:16with Netflix, I never know. It's always like they just throw a bunch
- 13:20of shit at the wall and see what sticks. And it's like, I
- 13:22hope you saw it, and I hope it gets like viral, you know,
- 13:26like there was no ads for you know, squid Game when it came
- 13:28out. I didn't see like commercials for squid Game. I had to learn
- 13:33about it through social media. Other people seen it already and mean like,
- 13:37yeah, it's not this guy that like curated every movie and TV show and
- 13:41then told me whether it was good or not. Yeah, what's what happened
- 13:45to that guy? Yeah, but I can tell you right now, I
- 13:50paid for fucking four K tier of Netflix, So I bet I've seen not
- 13:54one goddamn ad in the middle of my raw steel chair or somebody. Yeah,
- 14:00and I was wondering, you better put somebody in a fucking five minute
- 14:03headlock or some bullshit. So let them, let them pour us down there
- 14:07at the bottom tier. Watch them ads now that they have like this ip
- 14:13you know of Monday Night Raw on their you know network. I wonder if
- 14:20it's going to change the price of Netflix, because people already pissed off about
- 14:24the price now, so I think the price is gonna go up whenever it
- 14:30goes up. I don't think adding Raw is suddenly going to make a change.
- 14:33Netflix is just gonna raise the price whatever the fuck they feel like it,
- 14:35and people are gonna deal with it, just like every other streaming service.
- 14:39Yeah, I mean, so, I mean, if you don't have
- 14:43Netflix, now you have to get it, because I mean, you know,
- 14:46Andrew said that, She's like, what about the people who don't have
- 14:48it. I'm like, well, that's the same deal with Peacock, Like
- 14:52you know, it's yeah, it's like if you don't have it, tough
- 14:54shit, like it gets you really don't want to watch the content. And
- 15:00I'm cool with this adjustment, like getting off of cable fucking television finally,
- 15:05like getting off the cable titty. I'm like, I'm fine with it.
- 15:07Let's go app Let's let they'll have maybe a better algorithm for their library.
- 15:15I mean, I don't know how they're going to do it? Are the
- 15:20big quest? Yeah? I mean, like because I think the Peacock deal
- 15:24goes through twenty twenty six, So like what happens in the interim. Does
- 15:28Peacock still keep showing the ples and have the library and everything and Netflix just
- 15:35has raw until that deal ends? Uh? And they're showing raw replays on
- 15:41Peacock like three or four weeks later. Is that still going to happen?
- 15:45Yeah, They're still next day on Hulu. So yeah, there's still a
- 15:50lot of the like say, there's a lot of pending contracts, and I
- 15:52think the USA deal ends in November and then Netflix deal doesn't start till January.
- 15:58So is there going to be you know, raw off for two months
- 16:00or is there gonna be They're gonna work something out? That's like, but
- 16:06I mean, like, how many times have we seen these streaming services that
- 16:10try to show a live thing and just fuck it? Like even just recently,
- 16:15Uh, wasn't the Eagles playoff game on Peacock and that was fucked up?
- 16:22We've seen so many like and I'm sure they have a year to figure
- 16:25it out or whatever, But I'm sure there's gonna be at least one episode
- 16:29and at least in the early days where things are just gonna get fucked.
- 16:32Yeah, I mean remember when the w W app launched, the WW app,
- 16:37when that launched, that has so many fucking issues, so many issues,
- 16:42and you know, eventually they work the bugs out. But like I'm
- 16:45hoping, because Netflix is already a well established app, that they understand what
- 16:51they're doing, and you know, they fucking nail this, and and I
- 16:56hope that if this works out that others follow, Like when NXT or SmackDown
- 17:00deals are up, they can maybe just new deal. So IXT ain't going
- 17:07to where from No Wild because they just moved over to c W. Isn't
- 17:10that crazy? Like you haven't been going to USA? It'll be smart though,
- 17:15if, like you know, Netflix would just pick up SmackDown as well
- 17:19at some point, you know why not how old? I mean then and
- 17:23you're you're tying up almost ten billion dollars a lot of crazy. I don't
- 17:30know, And I don't know if it's necessarily a good thing to have all
- 17:34your eggs in one basket. I don't know if I necessarily want all of
- 17:37ww's content consolidated into Netflix. It may it may seem like it's a simple
- 17:44it simplifies things for the you know, for the end user, because you
- 17:47just got one place to go to for everything. But that's also, like
- 17:52I said, it's never a good thing to put all your eggs in one
- 17:56basket. I think I'm okay with things still remaining diversified, and you know,
- 18:00especially for accessibility and be able to reach out to all audiences because you
- 18:04know, a lot of shits other people do have Netflix. Netflix is still
- 18:08the number one streaming app by I'm pretty sure s Yeah, but i'd say
- 18:14by a pretty significant margin, I'm pretty sure. But it's still not everybody.
- 18:19So it's still good that they have an option like NXT that is on
- 18:22CW, that's on over the air broadcast television, that people can get something.
- 18:29And you know, it's unfortunate that SmackDown will be going to USA,
- 18:33which I mean still plenty of people have cables, so you know, in
- 18:37the USA is pretty much part of every basic cable package. So that'll still
- 18:41reach significant number a significant audience, you know, but it is a little
- 18:48bit unfortunate because we won't there won't be a major and you know, not
- 18:55a knock on NXT, but there won't be a major, main roster WWE
- 18:59program on easily accessible over the air television, which you know, for the
- 19:04long time that was SmackDown, whether it was on you know, UPN or
- 19:08CW and Fox or what have you. But it is what it is,
- 19:12I mean, and this is just the natural evolution of things. And you
- 19:17know, as far as Netflix being able to handle a lot handle the product,
- 19:22Netflix really hasn't done a whole lot of live programming, so this is
- 19:25still fairly new for them. They have a massive library, but I don't
- 19:30know what sometimes yeah, yeah, you don't know what their infrastructure is for
- 19:33handling live content. I think among all the streaming companies, I think probably
- 19:38the one that's best at it is arguably probably fucking YouTube. If I had
- 19:44to be honest about it. I mean, when we're watching pay per views,
- 19:49I mean, well, p E. I'm sorry, pretty much go
- 19:52off for the most part without a hitch. Yeah, yeah, I mean
- 19:56they're fairly good at it. But you know, YouTube obviously has incredible infrastructure
- 20:02for live content, whether it's YouTube app itself or YouTube tv, which is
- 20:07live TV streaming which I have, which works pretty much flawlessly like ninety five
- 20:12percent of the time. But you know, it'll be interesting to see what
- 20:15Netflix does. I think, more so than anything in regards to, you
- 20:22know, the streaming or the logistics behind it, which what kind of has
- 20:26me interested in terms of Raw and how it's going to look on Netflix,
- 20:29is how's the content itself going to change? Because now they're on a street
- 20:34well in twenty twenty five, they'll be on a streaming service which they're not
- 20:40subject to the same FCC regulations or you know all that stuff descriptions that exist
- 20:48on cable television or network television. Theoretically they can do whatever the fuck they
- 20:52want on Netflix. Now, obviously we know they're not going to do that
- 20:57because it's still somewhat of a family product or at least PG. You know,
- 21:02they still have a large percentage of their audience that has children. So
- 21:06it's not like, you know, an ain't like freaking We're gonna come out
- 21:11on raw one day and all of a sudden, Bailey out there, you
- 21:14know, saying that a song. Unfortunately, but yeah, like I don't
- 21:18think we're going to go that extreme, but I could see them becoming maybe
- 21:22a bit more liberal with the language, maybe allowing maybe not a ton of
- 21:27f box, but you know, allowing afan a profane word here and there
- 21:30to get through, Allowing maybe more blood to be shown, to which they're
- 21:37kind of starting with now, you know, but using it sparingly. But
- 21:41I could see it being you know, not maybe not ECW levels, but
- 21:45I could see them loosening up the strings on allowances of blood and language.
- 21:48Definitely with being on Netflix. You mentioned how the product itself change. I
- 21:56also wonder if they you know, and we talked about will it be two
- 22:00hours, will be three hours? I wonder if that, you know,
- 22:03maybe some weeks it'll be two hours and thirty minutes, and some weeks it'll
- 22:07be three hours and fifteen minutes. Some weeks it would be you know,
- 22:11like without that constraint of, oh, the show has to be off at
- 22:15eleven. Yeah, I wonder if it's gonna change things. I love that
- 22:18idea. I didn't even think about that, you know. I mean,
- 22:21it's just like most shows you watch on streaming networks, Like yeah, like
- 22:26the first episodes forty eight minutes and then the second episode thirty six minutes.
- 22:29In the next episode minute an hour and fifteen minutes. So I'm wondering if
- 22:33it's gonna be like that. I'm wondering if I'm gonna be able to rewind
- 22:37like I do now, you know, Like you know, just watching Raw
- 22:40last night, Wayne, I think you said, uh oh yeah, Gunter
- 22:44said Sunday. They immediately put up the thing that said it's the Roy Rubles
- 22:48Saturday, not Sunday, you know, so I could rewind and go back
- 22:52to you. Like, I'm wondering if if that's if we're still gonna be
- 22:55able to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder about replay.
- 22:59It's gonna be immediately available? Is it going to wait a day?
- 23:03You know, because sometimes if I'm working on something, I don't get home
- 23:04to midnight, I want to throw on at least watch the opening segment or
- 23:07whatever, have it on the DVR. Is that still going to continue?
- 23:11I certainly hope. So, yeah, I hope they would at least at
- 23:15least, if not the entire library, because obviously that can add up to
- 23:18a whole lot of shit real quick. But I would hope they would at
- 23:22least have it, you know, maybe the at least the last month's worth
- 23:26of episodes or two months worth of episodes available to watch, because they have
- 23:30to be aware that there's a considerable amount of their audience that doesn't catch it
- 23:34live, that watches it next day. I mean, I imagine they would
- 23:37be keeping track of it with their Hulu streams streaming numbers look like, and
- 23:41they could probably use that as a gauge to see about, you know,
- 23:45what to do about people you know who watch the next day or day or
- 23:49day or two later. And certainly, like I said, it wouldn't make
- 23:52much sense to just to be like, all right, it's on Netflix,
- 23:56it's live, catch it or miss it, like fucking Netflix. Yeah,
- 24:00I also think I think the possibility exists that it might be good for a
- 24:07yeah. Aw also, and I'll tell you why if Raw does move nights
- 24:15and Monday is open all of a sudden. Professional wrestling has been on cable
- 24:19television on Monday nights since before Raw was you know, so before Raw they
- 24:25did I think it was called prime time wrestling. It started as like a
- 24:30studio show. Then they had then they had an audience for a little while.
- 24:33Then it was like Piper McMahon the brain and like somebody else sitting around
- 24:37a desk and they would throw it to pre recorded matches, so that if
- 24:42if if AW can move to Monday, they may take a big part of
- 24:47the audience with them, especially the older people that you know, maybe don't
- 24:52understand how to turn on a streaming service or whatever. But it also means
- 24:56that they're not going to go to the to the Little Morner Brothers Discovery,
- 25:02which is one of the which is where they are already, So it means
- 25:04that there their biggest competition isn't gonna just kick them out of their time slot.
- 25:10So I think and things that are things that when AW is doing good,
- 25:14look what happens to WWE, it does even better. So I think
- 25:18competition is great. So if this ends up helping AW, I think it'll
- 25:22help WWE. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point. If AW can
- 25:27somehow work a deal to move into that Monday night slot that's been vacated by
- 25:33at least vacated by Raw on cable television, oh yeah, because you may
- 25:38find some people who's like who may not. It's gonna take a while,
- 25:42I think for people to embrace the habit of Monday night hopping on Netflix to
- 25:48catch Raw. Certainly, Yeah, if there's gonna be some groin paints there.
- 25:52They're definitely gonna take a hit in viewership for a while until people get
- 25:56accustomed to that routine. And I think I would imagine I can't see.
- 26:03I can't really see. They could very well do it, but I think
- 26:06it would be hard for ww to jump to Netflix and also simultaneously try to
- 26:11switch up days and times and all that stuff. I think that might be
- 26:14just a little too much too soon. I can see them trying to stick
- 26:17with especially the branding of Monday Night Raw. You know that's that's branding again,
- 26:22that's etched in wrestling fans' minds. So I can see them still being
- 26:26on Netflix, but still trying to hold on to that Monday Night nine o'clock
- 26:33hop on Netflix and catch it at least for the first year or two that
- 26:40they're on Netflix, just to get people into the routine of being on Netflix,
- 26:45to catch it before they try to switch up a day or something like
- 26:48that. I kind of hope they keep it on Monday, because, honestly,
- 26:52like everybody dreads a Monday, everybody does this at the beginning of the
- 26:56work week. You know, you're wrapping up for whatever you were doing on
- 27:00on Sunday over the weekend, like you know, everything starts over Monday was
- 27:06always you know, it's dragging, but at the end of the day,
- 27:11I knew I had Monday Night rawl at least to look forward to, like
- 27:14I always had that. You know. The only good thing that's gonna come
- 27:18out of this for me is finally, after like twenty plus years, I'll
- 27:22never have to watch another five minutes or more of Law and Order SVU or
- 27:27whatever. At the end right before, right before roll starts, and it
- 27:33was catch a like first five minutes, He's the killer, Here's the killer
- 27:37the whole time. Yeah, we'll get to miss that. It actually be
- 27:42nice too, because, like you know, sometimes you just don't get home
- 27:45at like right at nine o'clock, like maybe you wanna maybe you get home
- 27:49at like ten o'clock and you wanna start rall a little late. I don't
- 27:55know, I don't know this. This is gonna be fun. It's gonna
- 27:56be fun. I mean, yeah, like, are not evolving, you
- 28:00know. Yeah, I don't watch it live at least fifty of the time.
- 28:06Yeah, I mean I often will catch up with you know, like
- 28:10I'll maybe start watching at ten or something, you know, and just blow
- 28:12through. Oh you know, but you know, oh, they're gonna spend
- 28:15five minutes telling me what happened on SmackDown. I already know because I watched
- 28:18it fast forward, you know. Yeah. Yeah, and then like,
- 28:22honestly, like if you you can catch so much of it on social media
- 28:26because how much they dump on social media, Uh, it's like you can't,
- 28:33you know, because Andrew's leaving this week to go to Missouri. She's
- 28:36like, well, I want to watch raw and SmackDown. I'm like,
- 28:38yeah, I was like, I'll give you the password for this thing,
- 28:41but I'm pretty sure you're like you'll catch it everywhere, you won't miss anything.
- 28:47Uh yeah, So all right, moving on, moving on, guys,
- 28:56did you see that Duayne the Rock Johnson is now on the t k
- 29:02O board, the board of directors, isn't It's fucking crazy, right,
- 29:11Yeah, he's the w w e's boss. Now he's boss, dude,
- 29:15like this man, this man like came in picked up XFL right, and
- 29:22and now he's he's on the board directors for t k O like him,
- 29:27and yeah, he's got an under armor line. I think, Well,
- 29:37you know, he's the number one Action Star World yeah about saying if his
- 29:42net worth, if his net worth hasn't crossed a billion yet, and somebody
- 29:47somebody ain't doing the math right, his net worth has has got to be
- 29:52over a billion dollars, if it, if it hasn't already been there.
- 29:55Yeah, well, did you guys see the other the other little tidbit in
- 29:57that whole thing? What's up? Uh? I think I think he got
- 30:00thirty million worth of stock? Also he now he now yeah, oh yeah,
- 30:07billionaire. He now know he now owns the rock and he and he
- 30:11will be licensing it to them instead of vice versa. That that means his
- 30:18cut of the T shirt, you buy the DVD, you buy the poster,
- 30:25whatever, his cut just went way the fuck up to That's that's awesome.
- 30:30That's fucking awesome. Like he pays himself every time he says, if
- 30:36you smell what the rock is cooking on TV, Oh my god, dude,
- 30:40that's great. Just been like rock rock rock the rock, the rock,
- 30:44rock rock rock. Right, somebody else says, no, you're roll
- 30:48shut your mouth. Rock just goes to ching. Yeah, dude, like
- 30:51that that joke of like you can't see you're fire, because you know Donald
- 30:53Trump with a nickel or whatever. No, it's like, now, if
- 30:56you make a rock reference, you owe him money here like fucking don't.
- 31:00It's like Beatlejewice. Don't say the rock three times? You owe him money?
- 31:08Very cost the w ten thousand dollars Lien has it. If you look
- 31:12in the bathroom mirror and you say Duayne the Rock Johnson three times, you'll
- 31:17be in debt and know him money dude. And you know, obviously I
- 31:22don't think this is ever gonna have. But then the people talk about him
- 31:26running for president. Man, I don't talk about politics on heim with Jesus
- 31:30Christ. The Rock is the president. Could you imagine? Could you imagine
- 31:33the debates? Man, make too much damn money to be worried about some
- 31:37goddamn politics, right right, But could you imagine the debates between him and
- 31:44any old fuck that's in the White House? Just you know, Biden would
- 31:48start talking like sut your mouth. I ain't the debates that would be interesting.
- 31:55It'd be the campaign speech, yeah, dude, absolutely, yeah,
- 32:01can you smell what America's cooking? Okay, anyway, moving on, Uh
- 32:10did you guys hear about this one? Well, let me tell you something
- 32:15brother did you hear about this dude, Hulk Cogan uh and his friend saved
- 32:22a teenage girl after her car flipped in Clearwater, Florida. Can you imagine
- 32:30that? Like, you know it probably you know, if you've ever been
- 32:32in a car accident, they generally happened like within a blink of an eye.
- 32:37Right, you imagine you're you're kind of not you're if you're not knocked
- 32:40out your your days, you know days at the very least, and you're
- 32:45kind of opening your eyes and kind of figure out trying to figure out what
- 32:47happened. And fucking Hulk Hogan in an n w O T shirt? Is
- 32:52there right, actually happening? Right? You have to think like you're dead
- 33:00exactly. I'd be like, ah, my fucking dead. Is this the
- 33:01part where like the blood's rushing to my brain and I'm about to black out?
- 33:05Like this is I'm gonna die? All right? Where's the bright white
- 33:07light? But why is he wearing a black and white shirt? It might
- 33:10uh? Oh, you know, I guess like her air bag went off
- 33:16and he you know, used to used a pen. Uh oh no,
- 33:21an Indian Rocks Christian ballpoint pen to be exact. Yeah, who's scaring the
- 33:29pen with me, big dude everywhere, goole brother, just get sube.
- 33:32What's it auto grass dude, Yeah, that's it's. It's like, imagine
- 33:38that you're sitting in your car, you're panicking, like on the side down
- 33:43it's gonna whole mess of happened, and you're just sitting there, you're shaking,
- 33:46you're nervous, you're panicking, and then all a sudden, out of
- 33:49fucking nowhere, you just get just how did that come from? And then
- 33:59you look off Hogan coming up to you. Oh my god, yeah,
- 34:02dude, I me like the child, the like nine year old child came
- 34:08out like, oh my god, I haven't taken by vitamins and say my
- 34:14prayers. Oh my god, yeah dude. And that's funny. Is I
- 34:17just watched the other night Suburban Commando because Andrew has never seen it and she's
- 34:24never seen it, Like, you have to watch this, You have to
- 34:28watch his acting movies. You have to watch Holkogan act. It's fucking hysterical.
- 34:32He tries so hard. And do you guys know the Undertaker was in
- 34:37that fucking movie. Oh yeah, it's one of the bad yeah right,
- 34:40and uh yeah, it was just fucking odd. Definitely not a five star
- 34:45movie. But uh, if you if you can watch it and not have
- 34:51to pay for it, watch it. Oh yeah yeah right? H what
- 34:59else now we're not getting a less exciting news. I saw that Kevin Patrick
- 35:05was moved off of SmackDown. I don't know if you guys saw that.
- 35:08So I somebody somebody, Oh God, I like Kevin pad. I think
- 35:16I might be the only person on earth. I think so because I think
- 35:19somebody's listening to this podcast and realizing how I'm not a fan. I just
- 35:24like him because he says like little Irish phrases all the time that I like.
- 35:29I know, he goes, oh, you're very welcome to Rah tonight.
- 35:34That's that's fun for like the first like ten minutes. But what is
- 35:40I like it? So the question is who do they get to replace him?
- 35:45Are they just imagine for the time being, I guess they'll go back
- 35:49to Cole having double duty, which that seemed to be like a thing that
- 35:52they started doing. It It ended very quickly, like quietly, like we
- 35:58had to announcement that Michael will be announcing for both Raw and SmackDown, and
- 36:01it seemed like he was doing that from maybe like a month or two,
- 36:07maybe longer, and then suddenly, yeah, then someday they just kind of
- 36:12quietly phased that out a little bit and put Kevin Patrick back in, and
- 36:15now it's like, yeah, Kevin, you ain't it bro Yeah. I
- 36:20mean like I like when they put retired wrestlers on on commentary. I like
- 36:28Booker t you know, I like when JBL was on commentary. You know,
- 36:31I don't mind Corey Graves and I you know, like I like that.
- 36:37I like when we had you know, in ring competitors, you know,
- 36:42at least one of them. Waye Barrett's another one, you know,
- 36:45Yeah, I mean Waye Barrett is actually really good at the job. He's
- 36:50he's I think he's great in that. I like. I like him whenever
- 36:54he's watching the Bronston reidmatch, Oh get ready for the shoot? Oh I
- 37:00was soaked cold. Yeah, that's that's part of what makes him good.
- 37:06Like he certain moves and stuff that he can that he makes that like Sunami
- 37:09probably would not be that great if it wasn't for the spin that wad bear.
- 37:14That's exactly That's exactly how I remember it, you know, I remember
- 37:17because of that. You know, there's just like you know, every time
- 37:23Sasha Banks would come out, Michael cole is it's boss time. You know,
- 37:30it's just like they're like the brawl and Bruce when you say fight night,
- 37:37Yeah, it's fight died, Like God Jesus is calm down, Michael
- 37:39call calm down. Yeah. Those are things that make it special. And
- 37:44Kevin Patrick had literally none of that. Nothing nothing, not one goddamn syllable,
- 37:49not one, not two, not three things, none, nothing memorable
- 37:54about anything that he said. He was just there, yes and and wwe
- 38:00just there ain't gonna cut it. You gotta have something about you that's special,
- 38:05something about you that stands out, something that makes your that makes people
- 38:10want to hear you on the mic. Vince had it when he was doing
- 38:15it back in the day, whether it was him paired with Savage or Gorilla
- 38:19Monsoon or Jesse the Body Ventur or whoever. Even in w CW. Tony
- 38:24Schavani had it when he was working with Larrysibisco or Bobby Heenen. These are
- 38:30the guys who you know, you heard their voice, you could hear them
- 38:34commenting. They had their flavor, their style. Jim Ross obviously arguably the
- 38:38goat, even Michael Cole, you know, hit him miss. It took
- 38:42Michael Cole a while, but he's found his He's found his his grow,
- 38:45he's found his voice and his thing. So, I mean, the greats
- 38:51have that. Kevin Patrick was just there. Joey Styles another one in ECW.
- 38:55He's the voice of e c W. You don't think of ec W
- 39:00commentary without Joey stots. Oh my god, Like, yeah, that's what
- 39:07he did. Did Kevin Patrick do nothing? Well? Kevin Patrick? I
- 39:20mean, honestly, I'm curious to see who they're gonna get because I mean,
- 39:22again, I'm cool with Michael Cole doing Mondays or Fridays, but I
- 39:28would like to see somebody them find somebody else to at least take over Friday
- 39:31at some point, getting a new voice, getting another bring another wrestler,
- 39:37and let's I mean, there's gotta be somebody out there who no longer can
- 39:42wrestle, maybe sign to have the boots that we can get on the commentary
- 39:45team, you know, maybe, But I don't know, I haven't seen
- 39:50too many a wrestler that does good play by play like they usually do,
- 39:53the good color commentary and work alongside somebody. But as far as the actual
- 39:58play by play, I don't know if that's wrestler who would be for the
- 40:01play by play? That's that is a hard job. Was the guy who
- 40:06was the guy? He didn't n XT for a while. He's an m
- 40:08M A guy he's back to. He's got a strange or not strange,
- 40:13a foreign name. Uh we start with an M Mark Marrow, nobody remembers.
- 40:23Okay, I I really liked him, but he was more like a
- 40:30serious style, uh play by play guy? Why can't I think it's goddamn
- 40:37name. I wonder if there's a woman out there who would be real well
- 40:40super Did we have Renee for a while on commentary color commentary play by play
- 40:50by player? She was on the commentary team, but I don't know.
- 40:54Beth Phoenix did it for a while. Phoenix, Yeah, that's right,
- 40:58but things did do it for a while. I don't know. That's a
- 41:00good one. Yeah, I didn't mind him. I liked him. Right,
- 41:12there's got to be somebody that they'll go do their you know, due
- 41:15diligence and find somebody who can actually do quality play by play. And like
- 41:21I said, in the meantime, we'll just get probably a double dose of
- 41:23Michael cole Mondays and Fridays. Yeah, I mean I would think that's not
- 41:30something you can just do, you know, color commentary. I think you
- 41:32can probably just kind of do, yeah, color commentary. It's fucking hard
- 41:37if you ever like tried to do it just sitting in your living room,
- 41:40like watching anything even sports wrestling, anything, with somebody in your ear too,
- 41:46yelling at you, like, you know, just telling you what to
- 41:50say the whole time. Yeah, yeah, you got producers in your ears.
- 41:54You got this, and you got you know, certain ad reads and
- 41:58all these other things you have to do while I'm entertaining on this match and
- 42:00not just commenting, but actually doing it with some sort of enthusiasm and some
- 42:07flavor and some something that adds to the match itself and is entertaining. So
- 42:12yeah, it's incredibly difficult. That's why the ones who were the best at
- 42:15it in any sport, whether you're talking about a Jim Rows and wrestling,
- 42:20or Mike Breen or Marv Albert in the NBA or Al Michaels you know in
- 42:25football, any of these guys. Yeah, if you do that and you're
- 42:30good at it, the reason why the motherfuckers get paid what they get paid.
- 42:34That is not something that anybody can come off the street and do at
- 42:37all. All right, guys, so who here plays the two K wrestling
- 42:45games? Let me see your hands, raise your hand, I see them
- 42:49all. Yeah me, that's right. No, fuck yourself, goddamn red.
- 42:54I play these games. They're awful, some of them, but I
- 42:58still buy them. Uh. It looks like this year the cover is going
- 43:02to be Cody Rhoads. Where you can get the Bianca Belair Ria Ripley uh
- 43:09edition, or there's a forty Years of WrestleMania edition, which is something.
- 43:15I think that one's way better. That's that's probably the one I want.
- 43:22God damn yeah, that's the one that's like one hundred and twenty bucks.
- 43:24I know, but I won't have to unlock all that ship then, oh
- 43:31I know, I can always just get the Cody Rose one. Just turn
- 43:34it inside out, right, I mean, Cody Rose is what the standard
- 43:38edition Bianka and uh Ria' is the deluxe edition. And then yeah there's the
- 43:45big Boy the forty year of WrestleMania. Are they both on there? Or
- 43:49does does Bianca have a cover and Ria has a it's both it's and so
- 43:53why did Cody like share it with somebody like is he too good to share
- 43:58the cover with somebody like Cody motherfucking Rose Plumber, son of a plumber.
- 44:07Yeah, I I have, you know, more hopes for this game,
- 44:12so hopefully it's not ship. I can't. I don't know. I'm not
- 44:17gonna get my hopes up, I guess because ever reason I fucking do,
- 44:22I'm always let down. There's always something like last year they got rid of
- 44:25a lot of creative control. Uh, you know, with entrances and stuff.
- 44:30They get rid of a lot of that ship and uh, but apparently
- 44:35they're bringing back special guests referees this time. Cool cool, yeah commercial.
- 44:45I saw look like there's a casket match. That's kind of cool. Yeah,
- 44:47I like. I like the gimmick matches they need to bring back.
- 44:52They need to stop taking away gimmick matches and bring back the gimmick matches like
- 44:57you know they used to have like the Buried Alive, these have the Inferno
- 45:00matches. You know, They've said a lot of fucking cool stuff and then
- 45:04they would take them away, Like why would you take these away? Why
- 45:07would you not? Uh you can't sell it is deal DLC if it's already
- 45:12in there. But yeah, uh what do you guys get anything you want
- 45:19to plug for news Doyle? I mean, I know you always full of
- 45:22interesting fucking things news wise. Uh no, I think we covered most of
- 45:29it. Cool. Yeah, we covered pretty much the important major yeah,
- 45:35the big important things, like obviously the big elephant in the room was joining
- 45:39up with a brand new big red machine. Oh oh yeah yeah yeah,
- 45:44I thought Kevin Patrick was the the main news Yeah. No, yeah,
- 45:49you're right, the big Red Machine. I like that. Yeah, I
- 45:53mean, I was just glad when I woke up today and had nine million
- 45:57notifications that it was because of WWE gooing the Netflix and not because someone had
- 46:01died. That's what it usually is. So I'm curious. I gotta check
- 46:07to see, if you know, keep my eye on Netflix stock and see
- 46:09if that changes as well. TK. Today, I believe about say TKO
- 46:16Bro probably go up, and i'd imagine Netflix probably took a I imagine Netflix
- 46:22stocking way have made a bit of a bump today. Yeah, TK,
- 46:24I mean the acquiring Monday Night Raw is is you know, it ain't no
- 46:29nothing small by any means that's what you're talking about. Well, the longest
- 46:34running consecutive the longest running episodic televisions whatever, hell that shit is exactly.
- 46:40They liked it out and they just have celebrated episode sixteen hundred. Yeah,
- 46:47it means we should expect RAW two thousand somewhere around twenty twenty nine, twenty
- 46:54thirty. We got to go to that, uh ship. Uh cool.
- 47:02Do you guys want to just like fucking move right into the paper. Do
- 47:07you guys need to take a break. Do we need a little let's get
- 47:12ready to rumble. Yeah, we're gonna get you old Michael Buffer money.
- 47:16I'm gonna say I'm gonna get a sued those rotten bastard bastards. All right,
- 47:27So liked brought this up to like with the card, the card.
- 47:32Not a lot of meat on the card. Uh yeah, so fucking weird,
- 47:37right, Only two non rumble matches and they're both from SmackDown, which
- 47:42is strange. Uh. And we we have four world champions and none of
- 47:46them are gonna de fan down a Big four or Big five or Big six
- 47:51or whatever you want to expect about to shoehorn on the matches in in the
- 47:55next week. Or yeah, dude, Nonny Late about to drag the fuck
- 48:00out of his Royal Rumble match that's this weekend. Yeah yeah, So,
- 48:05because we're not getting, uh, we're not getting much in the way of
- 48:08non matches, non Royal Rumble matches at the Royal Rumble, I made a
- 48:15little list of the ten best non Royal Rumble Royal Rumble matches to go check
- 48:21out from the years going by, as as they are at least for now
- 48:25available at your fingertips on the peak ot. The first one is a Battle
- 48:30of the Ricks Ricky Steamboat versus Ravishing rick Rude from nineteen eighty eight, The
- 48:36first match ever in the first card of the first Listen is this listen to
- 48:40any particular order or no logical Okay, okay, yeah, it's the first
- 48:46match of the first Royal Rumble. Brett versus Razor from nineteen ninety three World
- 48:53title match. It was Brett's first pay per view title defense of his first
- 48:58title reign and then raised her again versus gold Dust in nineteen ninety six IC
- 49:04title match. That was a great feud if you remember that Razor ripped open
- 49:08his outfit at one point and he had the Razor tattoo on his chest and
- 49:13a heart Remember good shit Taker in HBK with a casket match for the w
- 49:20w F title in nineteen ninety six. That was the match where HBK hurt
- 49:24his back taking that back body drop onto the casket. Yeah. Match the
- 49:31Rock versus mankind I Quit match for the World title in nineteen ninety nine.
- 49:37That was. That was the match where Rock just bludgeted living dog shit out
- 49:42of him. Well, his wife and kids in the front became became very
- 49:46much the subject of the Beyond the Matt documentary. Exactly two matches from Not
- 49:53Wrestlingning Roy Rumble two thousand, the Hardies versus the Dudley's and it maybe the
- 49:59best table match ever in kind of a precursor to TLC. And also from
- 50:05the same show, Triple Ah versus Cathay's Jack in a street fight maybe one
- 50:08of the best street fights ever. That match was fucking brutal and it led
- 50:13to their Hell in a Cell match, which of course we all remember two
- 50:16thousand and one. The next year, Battle of the Chris Is Jericho versus
- 50:22Benoit in a ladder match for the IC title. You remember Jerichoup with the
- 50:27walls of Jericho on Benoit on the top of the ladder, which is kind
- 50:31of like a revelation. At the time, no one had ever kind of
- 50:34done anything like that two thousand and three one of my favorite matches of all
- 50:38time, current Angle versus Benoit for the WWE Now Championship just one of my
- 50:45all time favorite matches, and the most recent Lesli versus Senior versus Rollins in
- 50:51a triple threat match for the Championship from twenty to fifteen. Just a fucking
- 50:55car crash of a match. And that was the same rumble in here in
- 51:00Philly when Roman won and the Rock came out to like celebrate with him and
- 51:07they just got fucking bo So yeah, that's uh oh, I'm sorry.
- 51:15One more a j And versus Daniel Bryant for the w W Championship. Just
- 51:21a Matt classic that was from shit. I forgot to write the year down.
- 51:25You'll just have to go find it. I apologie. Yeah, I
- 51:30mean this car like I said I said about the Survivor series, didn't feel
- 51:35like a Big four and I feel like this isn't going to feel like a
- 51:37Big four event either. I guess you know, the rumbles are the star
- 51:39of the show. I suppose, yeah, but like again, and I've
- 51:44complained about this before, we don't need to royal rumbles. I'm sorry.
- 51:47We should alternate or something. I think that would actually kind of be cool
- 51:52for storyline. You know, if you got a healed champion going, oh
- 51:55yeah, I know you want a shot, but there's not another men's Royal
- 51:58Rumble for you here, fuck, you know, like kick rocks, because
- 52:04I mean even last year we had two, you know, the story we
- 52:07had, you know, you had two people going over an hour, you
- 52:10know in each of them, you know, they kind of repetitive over you
- 52:14know, at a certain point. But what do I know, I hear
- 52:19you, but I still respectfully disagree, just because I think both matches are
- 52:24still good matches and I are both equally entertaining, and it may be the
- 52:30same thing done twice, but it's the World Rumble match. I think is
- 52:35person is a unique enough of match that having two of them in the same
- 52:40show doesn't diminish either one. If anything, all you do is to kind
- 52:45of compare one to the other, but it kind of exists. They both
- 52:49still work for the same reasons. You want to see those returns, You
- 52:52want to see who's going to win. You want to see how long somebody's
- 52:54gonna last, how many people are gonna get eliminated. You know, who's
- 52:59gonna make us surprise appearance and all stuff, And it works whether it's the
- 53:02men or the women, and that's kind of what everybody is there for,
- 53:07and it's significant enough. I just I think there are still tweaks that can
- 53:12be made to the Rumble itself in terms of just the overall build up to
- 53:16the Rumble rather than it just happening, like this Rumble match, this year's
- 53:22Rumble kind of feels like it's just happening, Like they're the only people who
- 53:25are really talking about the Rumble are just the people at the top, which
- 53:30kind of makes everybody else just seem, you know, kind of lackluster and
- 53:35irrelevant, and it kind of points towards it. Yeah, you people ed
- 53:38sometimes had to qualify for the Rumble or or there'd be a match for like,
- 53:43you know, whoever loses this match his number one, or whoever wins
- 53:45this match is number three. You're like, and I know what you're saying,
- 53:51but I kind of like just having a couple of handful of names and
- 53:55not knowing who the hell else the other people, you know, because like
- 53:59I feel like when they tell us twenty seven people, we oh, okay,
- 54:01so now we know there's gonna be three surprises and then one of them's
- 54:06fucking Gilberg or something, you know what I mean, it's just h yeah,
- 54:08I get that sets it up for disappointment. Now. I mean,
- 54:13if there's one return, great, if there's five returns, great, because
- 54:15I don't know what the hell's gonna happen or who's going to be in it.
- 54:19Right again, I'm not saying that the whole roster needs to be revealed
- 54:23or anything, but the Royal Rumble is obviously a big deal within you know,
- 54:30WWE, and it would kind of to me it seems like it should
- 54:34be treated like that by like the entire locker room. Like that should be
- 54:37absolutely yeah, like they should be. Obviously everybody has their fuse and stuff
- 54:42that are still going on, but it still should be like this, everybody's
- 54:45talking about it, and everybody's got their minds focused on it or trying to
- 54:49get in or competing, and this as the third and and they can do
- 54:52other things with other brands, sly just other brands, but like they could
- 54:58do more with NXT to help great. It's again reinforced that it's that it's
- 55:01a big deal because we know we're going to see some NXT people show up
- 55:06in the Rumble, but they can NXT matches for a spot in the Rumble
- 55:12or whatever exactly, Like that's that's exactly what I think they should be doing
- 55:15on NXT. Like there should be like Shaw Michael should come out and say,
- 55:20I got like two you know, do the binder thing like contracts or
- 55:24whatever, but I got two slots for the Royal Rumble. One for the
- 55:28men, one for the women. We're gonna have a tournament. There's your
- 55:31month. That's a month of programming right there for you for NXT. A
- 55:36tournament. Winner of the tournament gets an automatic gets a World Rumble slot,
- 55:40gets a spot in the Royal Rumble. And I also think that the NXT
- 55:45champions men and women should have automatic spots in the Rumble by virtue of being
- 55:50the champion, they should get an automatic bid. Like if you're the XT
- 55:53champion, you're automatically in the Rumble. If you're an XT Women's champion,
- 55:57you're automatically in the Rumble. And that way, at least you know,
- 56:00you're getting at least two men from NXT and two women. If you want
- 56:05to do more, so be it, but at least two and that kind
- 56:08of adds a little intrigued any title defense they may have ahead of the rumble
- 56:13exactly. Yeah, your title, you lose your rumble spot. Yeah,
- 56:20there's there's ways they can add layers to this and make it feel more special,
- 56:23you know, which is without having to do a whole lot. I
- 56:31like that. Yeah, uh so we're talking about some of these matches here.
- 56:37One of the matches is Kevin Owens versus Logan Paul for the United States
- 56:40Championship in a singles match. We haven't seen Logan Paul since he's won the
- 56:45title really well what we've seen him, but like we haven't seen him defend
- 56:52it or kind of wrestle really since. Remember when he said he was going
- 56:57to be full time now that he won the title. Pepper's Farm remembers.
- 57:02He has been around, he just hasn't wrestled. I don't has he wrestled
- 57:08on TV at all? No, Yeah, he has not skimmick too,
- 57:16So it kind of makes k and it makes sense, you know, I
- 57:22don't know, but with this one like he's I don't think he if you're
- 57:27not gonna be a champion, he's gonna be sticking around. I don't think
- 57:29you deserve it. I think we already had two fucking champions on SmackDown who
- 57:34aren't around. You know, I I would like to see the title on
- 57:39Owens, but you know one, you know, if if, if,
- 57:45if Owens wins it, you know where does Owens go from here? But
- 57:49I think they're gonna let let Logan Paul beat Owens and we're gonna hate him
- 57:54even more. And I feel like he's going to defend it at Chamber,
- 58:00and I feel like whoever he defends it against, whether it's like I don't
- 58:01know, like Sammy's Ain or something, whoever he defends it against, he's
- 58:06gonna retain it there and we're gonna hate him even more until we get to
- 58:09WrestleMania, and then I don't know, somebody, maybe like La Knight dethrones
- 58:15him and takes a nice title. He's such a big pop because you know,
- 58:20all the heat that he gets. I mean, that's the point.
- 58:24I think they're one. I think they're gonna let Logan Paul hold it and
- 58:28just let the heat, build and build and build, and then he's gonna
- 58:30lose it to a big face and there'll be a big moment at WrestleMania.
- 58:35I just don't think it's gonna be at the Rumble, Dre, What do
- 58:37you think? As much as I hate that, I think you're right.
- 58:43Unfortunately, I think Logan Paul should. I think they should take the title
- 58:46off Rogan Paul. I think you've gotten what you wanted out of him,
- 58:51big media guy. Prance around with your belt and guess whatever media exposure you
- 58:58were hoping to get, you got it. I mean he did what the
- 59:00one thing with Patrick Mahomes, and that was like a little internet blip on
- 59:07the radar for a couple of days. So I guess the WWE is getting
- 59:12what they want out of Logan call Paula's US champion. He personally, I
- 59:15feel like it's a waste because it's a belt that again is not being defended.
- 59:22But I'm also only looking at it from just the perspective of wrestling and
- 59:25not the larger media perspective. Feels up to me, he'd drop it to
- 59:30Kevin Owens and then we'd have a title back on TV being defended and elevated
- 59:37properly, like how Gunter has done with the IC Belt. But it's not
- 59:42me and I think you probably are right that they're gonna do. They're gonna
- 59:45hold this to WrestleMania and have Logan Paul be in a match with like as
- 59:53you said, probably La Knight and La Knight will probably take it off fro
- 59:59mat Russe because all this momentum has got that La Knight has has to have
- 1:00:04some sort of payoff at some point, and nobody thinks. I don't think
- 1:00:07anybody thinks he's gonna win the Rumble. So if he ain't winning the Rumble,
- 1:00:10and he ain't, damn sure ain't beating Roman for the title, which
- 1:00:15we'll talk about when that match comes up. So La and I gotta get
- 1:00:20a dub somewhere. He can't just be this guy getting these loud pops and
- 1:00:22losing all the time. So it's got to happen somewhere, So probably hit
- 1:00:27WrestleMania. But which is unfortunate because I don't I don't feel like as good
- 1:00:32as Logan Paul is in the ring, which he is good is there's no
- 1:00:37doubt about that whatsoever. He is absolutely the real deal in the ring,
- 1:00:42and it's very much a quality heel. Like we've said it time and time
- 1:00:46again. If this man actually went full time WW he could easily be a
- 1:00:52top star within a year easily, but he's not. And because of that,
- 1:00:59I just don't like him beating Kevin Owens. I know, I just
- 1:01:05don't like it, but it's probably going to happen. Doyle, what's your
- 1:01:12opinion, man, I mean, you guys pretty much said it all.
- 1:01:15There's not a whole lot to say about it. Uh yeah, I mean
- 1:01:17I fully expect I expect a good entertaining match, but I know Logan Paul
- 1:01:22will retain. I probably buy some chicanery. You know, one of his
- 1:01:28buddies will show up dressed as the fucking sports drink. He had always be
- 1:01:35one of his buddies, like all the time. It's just no name,
- 1:01:38dude. But yeah, I mean that's exactly what the point of his character
- 1:01:44is. I love it. I like I I hear what you guys are
- 1:01:47saying about, Oh, he should be there every week, and I'm not
- 1:01:51gonna argue with you. I tell you you're wrong, But I love his
- 1:01:54act. I think he's hilarious. Uh uh yeah. I expect him to
- 1:01:59defend a couple of times here. Probably they've I think they've already said he
- 1:02:02was going to be an elimination chamber. I don't think he'll lose his first
- 1:02:07defense or a second, but yeah, I could. You know, they
- 1:02:12they their biggest show ever in WrestleMania forty. They want somebody like that coming
- 1:02:17in with a championship, you know what I mean, and a hot heel
- 1:02:21like that is gonna lose. So yeah, I mean, I think Logan
- 1:02:25Paul will win, and I don't know if there's much more to add.
- 1:02:32All right, let's move on to the next match. Here we have Roman
- 1:02:38reigns as the Undie speeded WWE Universal Champion with Paul Hayman versus Randy Orton versus
- 1:02:47A J. Styles versus l A. Night. Yeah, so this looks
- 1:02:58like it's gonna be a fucking eat fatal four way. I love fatal four
- 1:03:01ways. I love triple threat matches. I mean, with the right four
- 1:03:07guys, the match could be fire, and I think this is the right
- 1:03:12four guys. Everybody's got beef with Roman, everybody's got a you know,
- 1:03:17a fucking story of the room. They gotta finish everybody's got some sort of
- 1:03:21beef with the bloodline, and it seems like, uh, Paul Roman is
- 1:03:27trying to squish all this beef that he's had. You know, Randy Orton,
- 1:03:34returning, AJ Styles, returning L A. Knight was still on the
- 1:03:37rise, and all these guys are gunning for him. But I think they're
- 1:03:43gonna put on a hell of a match. But I I think Roman's gonna
- 1:03:46walk out champions. Still. It sucks like but I mean, Duley,
- 1:03:53I guess you would know best. But like with with the timeframe that he's
- 1:03:58on as champion, like is he looking to upset another record by WrestleMania.
- 1:04:04The next thing would be Hogan and that actually would be like a week after
- 1:04:13the that big Berlin show they're doing later this year. I want to say
- 1:04:17September. Yeah, that's that's too far. I mean, like I feel
- 1:04:23like if I saw the thing about about like what actually, I'll try to
- 1:04:29find it while I'm talking. It laid out the dates that he'll surpass certain
- 1:04:33marks. Yeah, and if you remember back to episode I don't remember what
- 1:04:40episode I talked about the Great the Great Mula's run with the women's title,
- 1:04:47which was like twenty five years or thirty something on Godly and they had the
- 1:04:53date that Roman will lose would break that record, and it was like it
- 1:04:59was like July fourth, twenty forty eight, I think, which is a
- 1:05:02Saturday. So maybe it'll be a p l E day. I mean,
- 1:05:09find this, Okay, here it is he would surpass Hogan. No no,
- 1:05:15no, no no yeah, September twelfth of this year, Hogan's first
- 1:05:23rain. I mean this could go several ways, like he could just he
- 1:05:27could hold onto it till WrestleMania lose it there that's where everybody mostly expects it.
- 1:05:31But like we've discussed before, like if the if he is to have
- 1:05:38a title match against the Rock or a match against the Rock, I shouldn't
- 1:05:42say title match. The title doesn't need to be involved at all. So
- 1:05:45if if they were looking for the perfect window the opportunity to have him drop
- 1:05:51the title, because I don't think he's he's scheduled, not scheduled for elimination
- 1:05:56chamber, That's correct. It's like this and then WrestleMania is his next stop,
- 1:06:02like right, I mean, isn't that just how it goes? Like?
- 1:06:06So like he either loses it here or Mania like it's one of the
- 1:06:11two. But if he loses it here, like you know who, I
- 1:06:16guess my guess, Orton would be the most likely the person to get it.
- 1:06:23I mean, anybody else l A. Knight would that that would make
- 1:06:28sense? You think he would do that in a singles match. And I
- 1:06:30just don't see them putting the strap on AJ Styles anytime soon. But I
- 1:06:36don't know. I just think Roman's gonna walk out still champion. H dre
- 1:06:42even quiet, what do you think? There ain't nothing to think about here.
- 1:06:47There's no reason to think Roman's gonna come out as champion. We know
- 1:06:53he's coming out of this ship as champion. The whole reason why they made
- 1:06:57this a fatal four way match is because one AJ Styles is not a credible
- 1:07:01contender at them to Roman at this point, having just come back two l
- 1:07:06at Knight just lost, So you're not gonna throw him into a rematch and
- 1:07:11have him lose back to back title challenges which would weaken him. Orton just
- 1:07:17came back and he's got a whole lot of momentum and you don't want to
- 1:07:19throw him into a title match and immediately have him lose. So what was
- 1:07:24the compromise fatal four way, let them all beat the crap out of each
- 1:07:28other. Somebody will take the pin, probably aj Styles if I had to
- 1:07:32guess. Aj Styles may take the pin, and then Roman can stay champion
- 1:07:38without any of the three looking particularly weak or losing any momentum that they have.
- 1:07:44That's the whole reason for this match. That's the purpose Roman's winning.
- 1:07:47He ain't losing shit to hopefully WrestleMania. And it really ain't much more thought
- 1:07:54to be put into this. It is what it is like. We're just
- 1:08:00kind of just spinning wheels and waiting until restumated, where we all expect and
- 1:08:06hope that he finally drops the title to presumably possibly Cody Roads. It's pretty
- 1:08:15much all of this. This is just buying time in this match. If
- 1:08:18anything, the only intrigue I have as far as Roman reigns and his run
- 1:08:25at this moment. Plus will also know that he's not going to be an
- 1:08:27elimination chamber like you said already. But the only intrigue I have about this
- 1:08:32is Roman reigns. Roman Reigns is already reduced schedule becoming even more reduced.
- 1:08:41And while it's not really any of my business, or anybody's business or his
- 1:08:46personal but it's going on with Roman Reigns as personal business or his personal health.
- 1:08:53There have been rumors for a while now that he may be dealing with
- 1:08:59some love complications or something of the of the sort stemming from his leukemia,
- 1:09:05and I'm just I'm a little bit curious and wondering if any of that may
- 1:09:10be happening to be playing a role in his already reduced schedule becoming even more
- 1:09:15reduced, and could that be also a factor into why this match may have
- 1:09:19become a fatal four way? Is he or any of these things starting to
- 1:09:25affect him and his ability to put on a one on one match of length?
- 1:09:30Again, not really our business or our place to worry about that too
- 1:09:35much, but it is something that I do wonder about well, And I
- 1:09:41was gonna say, just and if that is the case, again, it's
- 1:09:45not something I want to delve into much because they get there, You're talking
- 1:09:47about that his personal health and all that stuff, and I don't want to
- 1:09:50I don't want to do all on anything that possibly negative, right, I
- 1:09:59mean, like throughout his title run, he's been just fed guys in singles
- 1:10:04matches, So I feel like in different types of gimmick matches, tag team
- 1:10:10matches, but I feel like having a fatal four way because they've already done
- 1:10:15a triple threat, but a fatal four way the kind of like just throwing
- 1:10:18everything at him now, Like you know, he he's like, you know
- 1:10:23every all these guys, I beat him, I stacked him, you know,
- 1:10:27smashed them. But like now it's like now you get deal with three
- 1:10:29of them. So they're trying to like make it even more ridiculous for him.
- 1:10:33Uh, Doyle, what do you what are you thinking? Man?
- 1:10:39I realized that earlier I said that none of the world champions were defending their
- 1:10:43titles at Royal Rumble and then Roman ran anyway. Well, yeah, the
- 1:10:49thing with this matches, with this four way thing, is that Roman cal
- 1:10:53lose without being pinned, right, So like Orton could pin l a night
- 1:10:57and win the title that way without Roman lose in and whatever. Right,
- 1:11:00So the chances that Roman loses is a non zero number, but it's pretty
- 1:11:06low. I think, you know, yeah, we don't think Roman is
- 1:11:10going to be an elimination chamber. So if you believe that Rock and Roman
- 1:11:14is gonna happen at WrestleMania, and you think it doesn't need the title,
- 1:11:17then maybe Roman could lose it here. But in my mind, the only
- 1:11:23place he loses it will be at WrestleMania. However, I'm not sure that
- 1:11:29WrestleMania forty is a foregone conclusion that that will be the WrestleMania which he loses
- 1:11:33the title. But we have months to talk about that. So really the
- 1:11:38only question I think is how dominant victory is this going to be for Roman?
- 1:11:42Right? Is he just gonna squeak by h Is he gonna get help
- 1:11:45from Solo and or Jimmy like he almost always does? But one of the
- 1:11:50yeah, Wayne, you kind of stole my thunder a little bit. I
- 1:11:55was gonna say, you know, we saw the double stack right with with
- 1:11:59Daniels and and Edge. Are we going to see the triple stack here?
- 1:12:01I don't think we can rule it out. I think I think there's a
- 1:12:05very real possibility that he stacks all three of them up and pins him that
- 1:12:10way. I'm not saying I want to see that, but I think it's
- 1:12:15a very real possibility that that might happen. So who's at the bottom of
- 1:12:18this triple stack? Probably l a Knight. Hm. Hm, that sucks.
- 1:12:30You almost guarantee that we're going to see h Solo and Jimmy get involved
- 1:12:33at some point, because I mean, Fatal four Ways are almost by default
- 1:12:40no d Q matches just by the very nature of those matches, So that
- 1:12:45just frees them up to just pop in pretty much at any point when they
- 1:12:50think Roman's about to lose. So keep talking about booking, you know,
- 1:12:57Rock for Mania. But like, like I said, I don't feel like
- 1:13:05the title would be involved, needed to be involved for these two. But
- 1:13:10like you could, like said, you could have Roman lose his title not
- 1:13:14even get pinned. It's like, you know, I'm still the tribal chief,
- 1:13:17you know, I didn't get pinned. I should still be championing just
- 1:13:21a really fucking sour you know, Roman, you know, you know,
- 1:13:29And when Cody finishes the story against aj Styles or who else whatever they want
- 1:13:33to write for. I think the best case scenario for if that were to
- 1:13:39happen would be Brandy. Yeah, I mean the student versus the teacher.
- 1:13:43Yeah, that's what I think. Randy and Orton, I mean, we're
- 1:13:46in in uh, Cody, that would that wouldn't be a bad idea.
- 1:13:50It wouldn't be a bad match. But who's the heel? Does Randy turn
- 1:13:54heel after winning? Oh yeah, championship? You could do that so quickly.
- 1:13:58It's just one arcade that saw it fucking takes, does it? Though?
- 1:14:02I don't know that cheer. It was like it's becoming like then,
- 1:14:09you know, and as much as it luxury, who has then what's Yeah?
- 1:14:15I think I think Randy's almost starting to answer that, especially that we
- 1:14:19know that he's in you know, he's got more days behind him than ahead
- 1:14:24of him. I think he's almost in that phase of his career where he's
- 1:14:27the perpetual baby face. He could mister Rogers and if it's still yeah,
- 1:14:32I don't. Yeah, we know how great he is as a heel,
- 1:14:36and obviously he has that potential to be a great heel. I just don't
- 1:14:41know if the fans are really gonna boo him at this point, because I
- 1:14:43don't know if there's there's anybody on the roster that he could do anything too
- 1:14:47that would make fans really boo him. I mean it's sort of like a
- 1:14:51problem they hadn't trying to make lastly a heel recently, you know, like
- 1:14:57the crowd booming them. After a certain point, you have a certain level
- 1:15:00of appreciation from the audiences where they're just not going to boo you anymore because
- 1:15:04they appreciate you in the time that you've put in at this point, Like,
- 1:15:10I think he could go out there and stomp seth rollins head into the
- 1:15:15mat and stomp his legout, and I think he would still get cheered for
- 1:15:18it. I agree. I think if he if you pinned him up against
- 1:15:25L. A. Knight, he would suck all the energy from L.
- 1:15:29A. Knights, I think. I think fans. I think fans would
- 1:15:32be more likely to turn on l. A. Knight and start to boot
- 1:15:35him in a feud with Randy Orton than they would boot Randy Orton. Yeah,
- 1:15:43totally, all right, God forbid you put him in and Orton and
- 1:15:48Cody in a few going into WrestleMania, especially if, like Cody is a
- 1:15:54back to back wall rumble winner. I think you want a strong risk of
- 1:15:58Cody becoming the heal in that feud. All the fans just outright turning on
- 1:16:02Cody and like all my on them from the from the perspective that he's being
- 1:16:09force fed on us. Again, we like him now. We appreciate him
- 1:16:13now. Yes, he's the baby face of the he's the the face of
- 1:16:15the company now, especially being on the cover of two K. But yeah,
- 1:16:20I mean he might have the same problem. I'll tell you. I
- 1:16:23mean, like he's he's do you hear this story about uh at some house
- 1:16:27show, some dude was like, Hey, will you be the best man
- 1:16:30at my wedding? And he's like he said, yeah, well and he's
- 1:16:32like apparently really doing it, and like he's planning this guy's bachelor party,
- 1:16:38and he like like like, that's like, you can't turn that guy hell
- 1:16:45right now, Cody, do you want to be on my podcast? You
- 1:16:49can't turn Cody heel until the fans start to get sick of them, or
- 1:16:54you put them up against somebody that they appreciate more than him. And and
- 1:17:00right now, the only person I can see that they could potentially appreciate more
- 1:17:02than Cody right now would be a Randy Ordinate And even then it might not
- 1:17:08be a yeah, you know, it's not a huge gap at all.
- 1:17:12Like you're getting into like Rockstone colds there territory at that point where it could
- 1:17:15just be face on face violence. Yeah, I mean that could work as
- 1:17:20a face facing I think, I think, but I just don't know,
- 1:17:26because at that point, I don't know that Cody can still I don't know
- 1:17:30how he works the whole finish the story angle. Yeah, I mean through
- 1:17:35hard time, really right. I think that that storyline of him finishing the
- 1:17:41story, I think that is just as much tied to Roman Reigns as it
- 1:17:45is to Cody. It seems to that point, or at the very minimum,
- 1:17:49it's tied to him defeating a heel. I don't know he can sit
- 1:17:54there and say I have to finish the story and all that stuff, and
- 1:17:57he's going to go up against another babyface. I just don't know if that
- 1:18:02if that just being the better man, it probably isn't good enough. No
- 1:18:08finishing the story. Yeah, And the fact and to a certain stent,
- 1:18:12the fact that he lost to Roman Reigns last year and it's still talking about
- 1:18:15finishing the story almost kind of connects it and instinctively to Roman Reigns again,
- 1:18:21because like, not only am I having just finished the story of you know,
- 1:18:27my father's legacy and becoming the champion that he was never able to become,
- 1:18:31I'm also having to finish the story that I couldn't finish last year of
- 1:18:35defeating Roman reigns. I think those two are kind of connected now in that
- 1:18:43and that and that storyline. I tend to agree with you. Yes,
- 1:18:51all right, guys, Yeah, I don't We're gonna get Rock Roman wrest
- 1:18:57I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be Cody Roman. Nah.
- 1:19:00Yeah, I'm saying I've been I've been out on the Rock Roman at
- 1:19:03wrestlemina thing for a while now, like I said before that, but it
- 1:19:09just won't be. Yeah. Yeah, I said for longest that if it
- 1:19:13was gonna happen, it was gonna happen. It had to happen at Elimination
- 1:19:15Chamber, just for, if no other reason, the fact that The Rock
- 1:19:18as part owner of the us FL and that league is launching around the same
- 1:19:25time as Russell Mayne, and so he's gonna be his schedule is gonna be
- 1:19:28entirely too busy as the part owner and primary spokesperson for that league, that
- 1:19:32he's gonna be way too preoccupied. Yeah yeah, way too preoccupied with that
- 1:19:39to be able to put any time into one building up the feud too,
- 1:19:44doing any kind of preparation for the match itself, because it was not lost
- 1:19:49in a decade, and the last time he did he tore the ship out
- 1:19:53of his abdomen. Yeah, and it was. It has not been lost
- 1:19:57on anybody, how gast He looked this past week just oh not this past
- 1:20:00week, but the few weeks ago, just getting in that little tussle with
- 1:20:04uh which ender mahall on raw. So he's gonna put off a match,
- 1:20:09he would He better be conditioning himself and putting in that work. He can't
- 1:20:14just show up and have a match now, not at all. So the
- 1:20:18only window, you know, like, yeah, the only window he had
- 1:20:23was for elimination chamber, and since that's off the table, there's no way
- 1:20:27he's having a match at Wrestle Media. I never thought that that was gonna
- 1:20:30be happening once I saw what the date was for the UFL launching. Now
- 1:20:35will he appear, certainly, I'm almost certain he's going to appear just because
- 1:20:40it's Wrestle And like I said before, I hope he appears just so I
- 1:20:45can mark the funk out in Philly when he when that music hits. Yeah,
- 1:20:48I mean I just think that he'll be there, awesome, will be
- 1:20:51there almost ever. Know, any big person that's not working for some other
- 1:20:58company I think will be there certainly. All right, guys, I got
- 1:21:04a question written in for the show and it's from Andrew. I'm gonna play
- 1:21:11her boomper. Would you like to answer a question right at this particular time?
- 1:21:19Would you like to do that? I want to ask you a bunch
- 1:21:27of questions. I want to have them answered immediately. Can I ask you
- 1:21:32a question? My an more question? I'm sorry about that. Okay,
- 1:21:45Andrew wrote into our website, which you can too. If you go to
- 1:21:48our website at podcast Championship Wrestling on podium dot com, you can write a
- 1:21:54fan question in and we'll chat about it answer try to answer for you.
- 1:22:00This week, she asked, do you guys foresee Damian Priest cashing in his
- 1:22:05money in the bank briefcase at the Rumble or do you think he's gonna wait
- 1:22:09till WrestleMania If you had to pull the title off of Roman, who would
- 1:22:15you pick to win the fatal four way? Well, we kind of went
- 1:22:17over the fatal four way. But as for Damian Priest cashing in the money
- 1:22:24the bank briefcase, Uh, you know that's always the wild card always the
- 1:22:29wild card, because you know, we've seen it plenty of times where somebody
- 1:22:36wins a match and then right away I totally forget about the money in the
- 1:22:41bank, you know. You know, I remember one time Raymond Stereo winning
- 1:22:45the title and Orton coming out immediately and just fuck you cashed it in,
- 1:22:49and you know, like I said, I sometimes I just forget about it,
- 1:22:55and you know, the days are counting, you know, of when
- 1:23:00Damian Priest is going to have to either you know, attempt it and succeed
- 1:23:03or attempt and fail, and a lot of okay, he is till June.
- 1:23:12You know, I think as of now, I think they have too
- 1:23:15many of their ducks lined up till WrestleMania. I don't see him cashing it
- 1:23:21in anytime soon. It was a good backup plan, if you know,
- 1:23:28if Seth Rollins was truly injured, he wasn't able to wrestle. I feel
- 1:23:31like that's always there. A good back door is to use the briefcase in
- 1:23:36some sort of way. That's another thing I always what's that is that in
- 1:23:43case of emergency break last Yeah, I feel like that's what that never happens.
- 1:23:50The chances of that happened in this company are little to not. Yeah,
- 1:23:56yeah, injured, very high, dude. It's it's ridiculous how many
- 1:24:02wrestlers are just injured from that alone. I posted the other day a picture
- 1:24:09of the list of just injured wrestlers. It was like Big E with the
- 1:24:13broken neck, Core Jade has a torn a cl Braun has an injured neck,
- 1:24:18Charlotte torn a cl and mc L Dakota Kai torn a c L.
- 1:24:25Eric from the Viking Rats is a ne ex fusion surgery, Live Morgan shoulder
- 1:24:30seth Rollins torn mcl, Seamus shoulder issues, Sony Deville torn a Cluh.
- 1:24:38It's just yeah, that's insane and right before WrestleMania season two. Uh.
- 1:24:45But ask for the question, what do you guys, what are you guys
- 1:24:48thinking with this money bank briefcase? Do you guys think Damien's gonna possibly cash
- 1:24:53at anytime soon or you think he's gonna we're gonna wait till after the media.
- 1:25:00I mean you would think sometime soon, but at this point, the
- 1:25:05way they've been bullshitting with his cash in, they might hold it off till
- 1:25:12after Wrestlingmania at this point because yeah, like we've said they're in WrestleMania season,
- 1:25:17So right now everything is just geared towards building toward building up to our
- 1:25:25expected WrestleMania matches. These the big matches that are being rumored such as and
- 1:25:33Uh Seth and C and Punk Cody Roman, Jimmy Ja YadA YadA, so
- 1:25:38on and so forth, Ria Becky and so on. So there really isn't
- 1:25:43any space right now for Damian Priests to cash in because nobody is nobody expects
- 1:25:49him to like win at the Rumble and then lose it back at elimination Chamber.
- 1:25:54That would be kind of a waste and stupid, which, given how
- 1:25:57they've wasted his whole time as being money in the bake Champion directly couldn't rule
- 1:26:02that out, that he might cash out and then or cash in and then
- 1:26:09immediately lose. I would hate that for him, but it's kind of not
- 1:26:14there's as you said to him, there's a not there's a not zero chance
- 1:26:17of that happening. Yeah, but I think it's would be a bad idea,
- 1:26:23And if I had to put money on it, I would say it's
- 1:26:26probably more likely to be after WrestleMania. Even though you got all the reason
- 1:26:31in the world for him to do it right now, your whole your world
- 1:26:36champion is literal really injured and not and he has a gang of of streak
- 1:26:44toughs. He hangs around literally injured, not wrestling. I would be surprised
- 1:26:51if Seth Rollins wrestles a match before wrestle Media, which is kind of kind
- 1:26:59of crazy. I think he'll be on TV and be doing whatever. But
- 1:27:03I don't think he's going to wrestle the match before WrestleMania. I think he's
- 1:27:06gonna be in full rehab mode until at least at least from now through elimination
- 1:27:12Chamber. Maybe if he's if he pushes it and he really, you know,
- 1:27:17is determined to just grind this thing down as far as he can,
- 1:27:20he might try to force a match that elimination chamber. But I wouldn't be
- 1:27:25surprised if he If we go from naw to WrestleMania without him competing in a
- 1:27:29match, I mean, he can still be on TV without physically being in
- 1:27:33the building. Also, I'm sure you can do a sit down interview with
- 1:27:39him, you can do show him rehabbing, you can do all kinds of
- 1:27:43stuff, you know, without without that KF vulnerability of being cashed in on
- 1:27:47Yeah, I think with him just being there in general, it's like,
- 1:27:51hey, like I may not be able to defend it, but I'm here,
- 1:27:56unlike some other champions who are healthy to defend it but aren't even here.
- 1:28:00Yeah. But I mean, I think the question is, is what's
- 1:28:03preventing Damian Priest from just going hit him in the knee with the briefcase and
- 1:28:08pinning him? You know, right, what's just yeah, exactly what's stopping
- 1:28:12Damien from just coming out there mid promo and being like yo, ring the
- 1:28:15bill? Yeah? So, like I said, I think you could solve
- 1:28:19that by not I have. You can keep him on TV, but not
- 1:28:23necessarily have to leave him that vulnerability. I can only see Damian Priest cashing
- 1:28:28in unsuccessfully before many anyway, because he just doesn't fit in as a champion
- 1:28:34anywhere. I don't think you want to go into your biggest show ever with
- 1:28:38Damian Priest as your champion. No real offense to Damian Priest, but I
- 1:28:43think you want that belt on a bigger, bigger name than him. Yeah.
- 1:28:46Yeah, yeah, this is not the time for him to be championed.
- 1:28:51So last year won't cash in successfully, he may cash in but be
- 1:28:57unsuccessful. He might he couldn't try it Saturday and Solo comes and stomps him
- 1:29:01in the face, and Roman just rolls them over and pins up. You
- 1:29:04know that could happen, but I couldn't know that would be so funny in
- 1:29:11successfully mm hmm fatal four way and he inserts himself and now when it it
- 1:29:15becomes a five way match, and then he's the one that gets pinned.
- 1:29:17She I mean that could happen. Yeah, sure that that's that could happen.
- 1:29:21That's a yeah, I don't hate that. But he's also declared.
- 1:29:27He's one of the few people that's declared for the Rumble, and I'm just
- 1:29:30assuming that. Uh. I mean, well, we'll talk about the Rumble
- 1:29:34when we talk about the Rumble. Uh. But him declaring for the Rumble
- 1:29:40makes me think that's not something that's gonna happen. But who knows. Yeah,
- 1:29:45we can't rule it out, but it seems highly unlikely. M all
- 1:29:50right, Well, let's move on to the two Rumble matches here. Nice,
- 1:30:03let's talk about the women's so far on including According to the Wikipedia page,
- 1:30:11only four out of thirty entrance has been announced as of the twenty third
- 1:30:15of January. That is Bailey, Naya Jacks, Becky Lynch, and Bianca
- 1:30:18bell Air. So far, some rumors I've heard of her Jade Cargyle could
- 1:30:30be in it, which would be awesome. Tiffany Stratton from NXT, I
- 1:30:35heard maybe Naomi coming back from Impact Wrestling coming back. I heard she might
- 1:30:44make an appearance. Earlier a couple of weeks ago, we heard whispers of
- 1:30:49possibly Sasha Banks, and I don't think that. I don't think that's gonna
- 1:30:54happen anymore. I think she is officially signed with AW or is that just
- 1:30:59the rumor Sasha? We don't know anything yet. No, she's still at
- 1:31:04this point a free agent. Yeah, she's just still a free agent at
- 1:31:12this point, and everybody seemingly speculating that she's heading towards a w more so
- 1:31:18than w W E. But yeah, like Dole said, we know nothing,
- 1:31:23So I mean that's a possibility as well. And basically every other female
- 1:31:30on that roster is in that match because it's hard for them to scrape together
- 1:31:33thirty women for the rumble. I mean, I also, like, I
- 1:31:39wouldn't be surprised if maybe Trus Stratus shows up. You know that's a possibility
- 1:31:45too. Maybe I don't know who would be coming back from an injury.
- 1:31:50I think it's too soon for for like Live Morgan. Yeah Morgan, that's
- 1:31:55a really good one. I think it's too soon from like uh, Alexa
- 1:32:00Bliss to come back or Carmela to come back. So yeah, Live Morgan's
- 1:32:06a really good one. I put money on that one. But walking out,
- 1:32:13I feel like it's gonna be Bailey. That's why I'm putting my money.
- 1:32:17I'm putting it on Bailey. I think she's gonna be the answer to
- 1:32:24what they're gonna be doing with damage control and where EO Sky's title could be
- 1:32:29going next. I feel like that's the story they've been building on for a
- 1:32:33while. And I think we talked about this before, but like, you
- 1:32:40know, Bailey winning it and them expecting her to go after Rhea and you
- 1:32:45know that's not the case at all. Something happens, whether they some of
- 1:32:49them try to turn on her on the rumble and they try to toss her
- 1:32:53out and she ends up tossing them out, and then you know, then
- 1:32:57challenges EO. You know that that's my guess for the for the women's I
- 1:33:03feel like we're gonna have a lot of good returns on the spots, Dre,
- 1:33:09you what are you thinking? Mmm? So, before I get into
- 1:33:16my thoughts, I found a a rumored prediction online of what the women's royal
- 1:33:24Rumble matches would look like as far as all thirty entrants. I'm gonna run
- 1:33:28through this list real quick, yep, just to and get you all thoughts
- 1:33:31on it. Again. This is not from any source. The source on
- 1:33:39this is a half smoking blunt. It's not mine because I would have smoked
- 1:33:45all of it. Yeah, No, sources is just rumored somebody basically fan
- 1:33:51casting. So boil Rumble starting starting from number one to thirty number one,
- 1:33:59Bailey number two, Becky Lynch number three, Tris Stratus number four, Kyrie
- 1:34:06Sain five, Zoe Stark number six, Candice Lay seven, Osca eight,
- 1:34:15Chelsea Green number nine, Naomi ten, Shana Basler eleven, Indie Hartwell twelve,
- 1:34:21Piper Niven thirteen, Kayden Carter fourteen, Nya Jacks number fifteen, Jade
- 1:34:30Cargill sixteen, Katana Chance seventeen, Isla Dawn eighteen, Bianca bell Air nineteen,
- 1:34:38Albu Fire twenty, Maxine Dupree number twenty No. Twenty one, I'm
- 1:34:45Sorry twenty one, Tiffany Stratton twenty two, Returning Live Morgan twenty three,
- 1:34:53twenty three, Ivy Nile twenty four, Shatzi twenty five, Tiagan Knox twenty
- 1:34:58six, mill Yim I still refuse to call her mit Chin twenty seven,
- 1:35:02Natalia twenty eight, Roxane Perez from NXT twenty nine, Zelina Vega and at
- 1:35:10number thirty on this prediction list, aj Lee, Oh, dude, that
- 1:35:15would be a good one. I'm not trying to hold my breath, but
- 1:35:18that that would be a good one. I do agree with the j Cargo
- 1:35:24one. I kind of I feel like guaranteed this is where she's gonna make
- 1:35:29her mark a making appearance, because this is the only place to do it,
- 1:35:31even if they have no plans to bring her to like the main roster
- 1:35:36like this, you know, until after WrestleMania, maybe she debuts on a
- 1:35:41main roster after Mania whatever, But like, if you're gonna make an appearance,
- 1:35:45you're gonna make a splash. You're gonna show them what you can do.
- 1:35:49You know. Obviously there's a lot of us who know what she can
- 1:35:53do, but there's some people who've never seen a wrestle. Ever, there's
- 1:35:56people who have no idea who she is, and that's just how it is.
- 1:36:00You know. I know plenty of wrestling fans I could probably go up
- 1:36:02to and ask them if they know who she is, and not a lot
- 1:36:05will unless they watched a w But I'm excited for that. And if Nay
- 1:36:10is coming back, I'm excited for that too. It kind of sucks she
- 1:36:15she missed like a majority of the Bloodline storyline, like her being involved in
- 1:36:19that would have been fantastic. But could there was no female for her to
- 1:36:26feud? True? But yeah, I mean she would have been the real
- 1:36:30ripley of that group. If she could have been like just a dominator,
- 1:36:32she wouldn't have been a woman in the group. She wouldn't have been Yeah,
- 1:36:39yeah, okay, I see what you mean. But she could have
- 1:36:41been something, something, something more than what she was potentially potentially being with
- 1:36:47the blood Line. But yeah, so I'm excited for all these I think
- 1:36:51this is gonna be a good, good match. But who did you have
- 1:36:56winning? Oh? I haven't. I haven't got into my own thoughts or
- 1:37:00anything. I just sharing that just that little random thing I found on the
- 1:37:03Internet. Just overall thoughts on the women's Rumble in regards to the prospect of
- 1:37:10Jade car Gill showing up, because that was obviously one of the big rumored
- 1:37:15UH speculations about the rumbles that she can make her debut. One I wonder
- 1:37:20if the theme that she had in AAW was that something that she had herself,
- 1:37:27that she owned, or was that something AW created for her the whole
- 1:37:30thing of a Storm is coming or such. Because what I wonder about is
- 1:37:36does wwe already have an entrance plan for her? Do they have a theme
- 1:37:42or something of that nature, And if they do, then that kind of
- 1:37:45points towards some sort of spectacle or grand spectacle for her to make her debut.
- 1:37:51And the rumble really would not necessarily be that because usually you get the
- 1:37:57cow down, the music hits, and the person comes out. If you
- 1:38:00got somebody like Jay Cargill making their debut and her music excuse me, and
- 1:38:08her music hits and it's not a known theme that people know, her debut
- 1:38:14could almost come off as a dud unless they're gonna have like somewhat of a
- 1:38:18pause in the action to go through this. I don't know. Some grand
- 1:38:24presentation of Jay Cargill making her debut and then coming out, But that can
- 1:38:29kind of break up the flow of the match if you're doing all this just
- 1:38:32for her, So that kind of points me in the direction of her not
- 1:38:38being a part of this rumble, even though I think it would be a
- 1:38:42good match for herder debut, and because she can show up kind of rec
- 1:38:46shop be protected within the mass of other women that are competing in this match,
- 1:38:51so that all the attention isn't exclusively on her except for when it needs
- 1:38:56to be in order to showcase her and make her look good and then inevitably
- 1:39:00have or be eliminated. So if I had to put my money on it,
- 1:39:04I would probably say, we're not going to see j car Gill in
- 1:39:10this World Rumble if I had to put money on it, just because I
- 1:39:13don't I don't think. I don't think the present this is the right The
- 1:39:17presentation isn't there for that's the only thing that plows me up about it.
- 1:39:21Remember who debuted at the Roar Rumbull a couple and a couple of years ago,
- 1:39:27uh Aj Styles. He came to WW That's where he debuted. Even
- 1:39:32when his music hit I didn't know who he was. Roman Reigns didn't know
- 1:39:38who he was. I mean, the people in that ring didn't shot up
- 1:39:41the crowd and the people in the ring on who and the huge ladders on
- 1:39:45the screen. Yeah, so let's let's try this out here. So oh
- 1:39:53wait, here we go. Okay, what's that is that her? Was
- 1:40:26that her A that's he? That's her a W theme? Yeah, a
- 1:40:30new storm. I remember here in a rumor that Megan thee Stallion was going
- 1:40:35to do her w W E song, but that was like right after she
- 1:40:42right, so yeah, we don't know if that I don't know if there's
- 1:40:45anything to that but fill out. Yeah, I remember here in the same
- 1:40:47rumor. I mean what I'm here right there? It doesn't sound that bad.
- 1:40:51But then again, we don't know if she owns that or if a
- 1:40:55W owns that. Yeah, I mean I don't know. Yes, savvy
- 1:41:00businesswoman, I think she might. I could see a world where she oh
- 1:41:04yeah, yeah, definitely. I think that's part of the reason. She's
- 1:41:08definitely business savvy. That's part of the reason why she went to AW in
- 1:41:12the first place, as opposed to WWE, because she wanted to build her
- 1:41:16brand up and WWE. At the point she was at that time in her
- 1:41:21life, she didn't have enough cachet to demand what she wanted from ww which
- 1:41:28is why she went to AW because they gave her the freedom to do what
- 1:41:30she wanted and build herself up as a brand, so that she came back
- 1:41:34to WWE, she had much more bargaining power. Right, I'm getting there,
- 1:41:40Like this theme song like embedded, so I know what it sounds like
- 1:41:44when she comes out, but then like if she does come out, it'd
- 1:41:45be like a totally different song of it, like damn it. Yeah.
- 1:41:49I mean I could see it, depending on what the stage set up is
- 1:41:53and maybe how the presentation hits and maybe if it's if they had that big
- 1:41:57video screen kind of like what they do with Raw or something similar to that,
- 1:42:01I could see maybe something where yeah, some storm is playing and you're
- 1:42:04getting like lightning strikes or whatever, and then music plays and she walks out.
- 1:42:11I could I guess I could see it to an extent, but I
- 1:42:18don't. I'm still kind of up in the air about that. I still
- 1:42:23kind of lean towards her not showing up, even though the betting money was
- 1:42:28would probably be on her showing up and making her debut there, but that's
- 1:42:31just car guilt Naomi. Yeah, I think there's a very very likely we'll
- 1:42:38see Naomi make her return and probably to a pretty considerable pop trist Stratus or
- 1:42:44somebody like trist Stratus showing up. I don't think so. I don't.
- 1:42:47I don't think so. Aj Lee is the other big one of possibility,
- 1:42:56and again I would love it. I would love to see it. She
- 1:43:00would obviously get probably the biggest pop of anybody if she should up. I
- 1:43:06think hers, she'd get a bigger pop than Trish Live, Jade, Becky,
- 1:43:12anybody would be if A. If that aj A j Lee Music is
- 1:43:15absolutely try to put money on it, though probably not as well. In
- 1:43:26regards to who I think is going to win the Rumble, I'm in the
- 1:43:30same boat as you, Wayne, I'm I'm going with Bailey. I think
- 1:43:34Bailey is going to win the Rumble this year. Becky Becky Lynch will have
- 1:43:40to deal with disappointment again. But they can easily have Becky Lynch win the
- 1:43:45elimination Chamber match to get her match with you know, with Rea Ripley at
- 1:43:53WrestleMania. Although yeah, yeah, I could see it happening, because I
- 1:43:58know they right now, the story the Bailey is selling is that she's gonna
- 1:44:01win the Rumble and then challenge Rare Ripley. But I think we're going to
- 1:44:06see in the Royal Rubble Match. I think it's when we're gonna see Bailey
- 1:44:11get kicked out of damage crawls, I think damage control. I think we're
- 1:44:14gonna see the disintegration happen in the Rumble match itself, and that's when we're
- 1:44:18gonna see Bailey, you know, fight back and overcome and then and then
- 1:44:25win the Rumble herself. In the end, it's Bailey. Bailey would probably
- 1:44:30be my my I put my money on Becky Lynch number two. Dude,
- 1:44:33it's been years, but could could you imagine that at this year? How
- 1:44:55long has this been since we've heard that dame music? And and you wouldn't
- 1:45:01even hear the music because the pop would be massive? Yeah? Yeah,
- 1:45:06I mean, like with her small frame, I think her and like I
- 1:45:12like to see her in like Sasha Banks wrestler, her Slina Vega like just
- 1:45:16another small woman her size that you know, because her wrestling style is very
- 1:45:21unique and she even took down bigger women too. Mm hmmm, So Doyle,
- 1:45:33what's up, buddy? Yeah, in your opinion matters, who do
- 1:45:38you think, Buddy? Yeah, I mean I think I think the men's
- 1:45:45match is gonna be more about setting up many not that just won't do that,
- 1:45:48But I think this one is gonna be way more about returns and debuts
- 1:45:51and whatnot. Uh So when you kind of covered some of this, but
- 1:45:57so by my account, there's a full one third even more than that,
- 1:46:00actually, like eleven, uh a third of a rumbles worth of women that
- 1:46:05are currently not on TV for one reason or another that might be by the
- 1:46:10end of the year, a few of which I would expect to see Saturday.
- 1:46:15Uh. And also this is kind of part of why the women's roster
- 1:46:18is so thin right now because of some of these injuries where we yeah,
- 1:46:21we've got Alexa Bliss and Carmelo both out with babies. Doubtful for the Rumble
- 1:46:27I think, but almost certain to be back sometime this year. Uh.
- 1:46:30Then the injuries you got Sony Deville, Live Morgan, Charlotte Raquel's got some
- 1:46:35weird disease or something, uh all out with it. Yeah, I don't
- 1:46:45think it's life threatening. But it's not fun. Whatever it is, I
- 1:46:50don't really understand. Uh, but I would expect to see all of them
- 1:46:55back at some point this year. Yeah, I think live. I think
- 1:46:57i'd expect to see Saturday. I'm not sure about the rest. Uh.
- 1:47:01Maybe Dakota Kai. I'm not sure how far she's I think she gets close,
- 1:47:05but she's involved in the whole damage control of it all. Yeah,
- 1:47:10so maybe Coda Kai has said herself that she she would she's not ready for
- 1:47:15an inning return till some time after wrestle media. Yeah, I think damage
- 1:47:19control is gonna be a big part of this match, so it's probably best
- 1:47:23to keep the moving parts down. Maybe then Yeah, then we get Sasha
- 1:47:28and Naomi. I think we're almost certainly going to see Naomi. Uh.
- 1:47:32Actually, you're your your Jerry, your list or your order. There had
- 1:47:36Bailey at number one. I think Naomi should be number one so she can
- 1:47:41do her entrance. Uh started off with a bang with a big return.
- 1:47:46I could see that that would be good. Yeah, I could see.
- 1:47:50I'm not sure about Sasha. Then there's this this Julia who is I guess
- 1:47:55this is just uh white girl, but she wrestles in Japan. There was
- 1:47:59rumor about signing her, so we might see her. But then Jade is
- 1:48:03probably the big one. You know, if she doesn't appear on Saturday,
- 1:48:09and I'll I'll go even farther and say that, you know, if she
- 1:48:12doesn't have a gigantic spot, she has a long run, she eliminates a
- 1:48:16ton of people, maybe she single handedly eliminates Naya Jax or something, or
- 1:48:21maybe she does all of that. I can see that. If she doesn't,
- 1:48:26I really have to question what the fuck is going on with her,
- 1:48:28right Like there must be something that's not connecting or whatever, because I can't.
- 1:48:35I just can't. The only other spot to bring her in would be
- 1:48:39the raw after WrestleMania, right, but I think you're gonna want her for
- 1:48:44WrestleMania in some kind of position of relative importance. So I can't see how
- 1:48:50she wouldn't. She's not going to be in this match and she's not going
- 1:48:54to make a huge fucking impact. I just can't see how that would happened.
- 1:49:00Uh yeah, I mean, but then, as surprised as I wouldn't
- 1:49:02be surprised to see Trish or Leada, they seemed to pop, They seemed
- 1:49:06to trot Michelle McCool out for every single one of these, so I wouldn't
- 1:49:12be surprised to see her. Mickey James, maybe we've seen her before,
- 1:49:15even though she's with another company. She's married to Nick All this. Yeah,
- 1:49:20Triffany, Tiffany Stratton, who's the girl who's the Irish girl that beat
- 1:49:24uh Becky. She's a champion now what the hell taya val val valkyrie something?
- 1:49:34Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised to see her. But you know,
- 1:49:40at the end, uh, just like you guys, I think, uh,
- 1:49:44it's gonna it's gonna be Bailey. Uh. And I think we might
- 1:49:46run back that Bautista triple h angle with Evolution, you know where where she's
- 1:49:51getting ready to sign the contract for Rhea Ripley and she goes, uh huh,
- 1:49:57no, I'm going after you or something. Maybe she eliminates Oscar or
- 1:50:01Carrie or both of them or something. I am going to miss Heal Bailey
- 1:50:06terribly, but I'm gonna be interested to see what her next iteration of her
- 1:50:14as a baby face looks like. I imagine she's not gonna come out with
- 1:50:18balloon men waving their arms around, and maybe maybe she won't be a hugger.
- 1:50:24Maybe she'll go back to being a hugger. Who knows. But yeah,
- 1:50:28you guys both mentioned if I I was gonna put money on it,
- 1:50:31would you like to hear the odds go nuts. We got Bailey as the
- 1:50:38favorite at one plus one thirty five, Becky Lynch at plus two hundred.
- 1:50:43Becky's really the only other person I could see winning. But it's easy enough
- 1:50:47to get her to a match at WrestleMania, I think, and she's already
- 1:50:50won to rumble Bailey hasn't. I think it's like one of those accolades she
- 1:50:54deserves. Jade Cargill plus three hundred, Naya Jacks plus eight hundred Rocket l
- 1:51:00plus nine hundred, Bianca plus one thousand, Sasha Banks plus twelve hundred Lives
- 1:51:04plus fourteen Oscar plus sixteen, and you got Shana Beseler's that we start Naomi
- 1:51:12Trinity whatever they're gonna call her, all A twenty twenty five hundred. Then
- 1:51:17they got EO and Ria at five thousand. Ronda Rousey also rocksam. Now
- 1:51:23we're getting into ridiculous SHATSI Dakota Kai is not going to be in this match.
- 1:51:27She's at eight thousand, and then there's a million other people after that.
- 1:51:30If you really want to go for a long shot, you can have
- 1:51:36Maurice your pick of the Bella Twins, Metallia to meet Michelle McCool or Ava
- 1:51:44for plus twenty five thousand. Is that how low in the carnatalia is?
- 1:51:49She's down She's down there with people who are retired and don't even wrestle.
- 1:51:54What the fuck? It ain't unrealist though, I think it's Bailey's turn.
- 1:52:14You know, she was the last one left in NXT when the other four
- 1:52:16horsemen came for horse women, uh got called up and she stayed behind.
- 1:52:23Uh. I mean she's caught up to everybody. She's a you know,
- 1:52:26grand Slam. But you know, she's one of the one of the few
- 1:52:30things, uh not in her trophy cabinet is a royal rumble, and I
- 1:52:33think she deserves that. Yeah, yeah, you're right. It's one of
- 1:52:38the few accolades she does not have. So I could definitely see the sixth
- 1:52:45or seventh Women's So I mean it's not like everybody but her has one.
- 1:52:48Yeah, you know, I don't think we've had a repeat women winner yet,
- 1:52:51right, Uh, it just it seems like it's her turn. It
- 1:52:56makes sense for the story. All right, It's time to move on to
- 1:53:04the main event. The male The men's were a rumble match. So far
- 1:53:13we have eight out of thirty and those eight are Cody Roads so he can
- 1:53:18finish his story and see him punk because he has his own story. And
- 1:53:25Shinske Nakamoora because he thinks he has a story. Bobby Lashley, the only
- 1:53:32SmackDown guy so far. Drew McIntyre so he can finish his story. Gunter
- 1:53:42Man, who did great last year in the Rumble. K Yeah, Kobe
- 1:53:50Kingston, who I hope doesn't try to do some outrageous fucking trick because he
- 1:53:59might not end it like he did last year. And Damian I think he
- 1:54:02said he said he's done with those. He's failed like the last two or
- 1:54:06three times he's tried it. I think, so yeah, Damian Priest now
- 1:54:12so uh, you know, I don't know who I'm thinking it's gonna come
- 1:54:19back. Like you know, I hear a lot of people like, oh,
- 1:54:23like the Rock's gonna could be in the Rumble. I'm like, no,
- 1:54:26I don't. I don't think he needs to be in the Rumble.
- 1:54:31I think maybe that's what I said, that the women's match has much more
- 1:54:34of that, I think than we have. Like the men's roster is so
- 1:54:41fucking deep right now. Nobody wants to see the Rocks show up just to
- 1:54:45get eliminated exactly. How do you put the Rock in? And he's not
- 1:54:49like one of the last four exactly. So like for me, it's like
- 1:54:55I I see maybe like one n XT guy coming up. I'm hoping Mellow
- 1:55:00Hayes, if anybody, or brown Breaker or Trick. Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:55:04so like we get one n XT guy, at least give me that.
- 1:55:09I I think that we're gonna see a lot of WrestleMania matches maybe set up
- 1:55:13here like feuds. I think if I don't know if Jimmy is gonna be
- 1:55:17in the in the Rumble and if J's gonna be in Fantasy Booked, Yeah
- 1:55:24yeah, like that's that's already that could book itself, you know. At
- 1:55:28the Rumble, I I think I think, uh seeam Punk is gonna win
- 1:55:34this. I don't think Cody is gonna win this. I think Cody's gonna
- 1:55:38have to win in another way. I yeah, I think another way because
- 1:55:45I I the Rumble is where Punk got screwed over and we're Punk left.
- 1:55:53I think the rumble is how they're going to kind of give it to them,
- 1:55:59like, you know, do him right, I guess, and let
- 1:56:02him win the rumble. Yeah, he's never won a rumble, so that
- 1:56:05would be something for him. You know. I think that he would probably
- 1:56:11pretty much have done it all then if he's won the rumble, I think,
- 1:56:17uh, but I say close second. Maybe, I mean, I
- 1:56:26guess it's obvious it's roades, but like maybe maybe I don't know, I
- 1:56:32don't know, like maybe Drew McIntyre so he can finally win his title in
- 1:56:40front of a crowd of people. But I don't see that happening. You
- 1:56:44know. It's like my third choice by I'm pretty sure, pretty solid on
- 1:56:48on Sampunk. Well, maybe we'll see some something happened with Judgment Day.
- 1:56:56Like I feel like Judgment Day's gonna probably run Rancid in and similar to if
- 1:57:01you guys remember Rumble with uh the Nexus with cmpunk in it, and the
- 1:57:10Nexus was just tossing people out left and right. People were returning Booker t
- 1:57:14return tossed him out. It wasn't until like super Sena came until it kind
- 1:57:18of even the odds do we see, like Judgment Day kind of get together
- 1:57:24and toss everybody out and even to the point where like, you know,
- 1:57:30they I don't know our truth like tosses JD mcdonnout. I would love to
- 1:57:34see that, you know, like they're all like standing together like all right,
- 1:57:39well we're gonna work as a team, and like, well he's not
- 1:57:41part of the group, and he like tosses JD out. You know,
- 1:57:45I expect some funny yeah, yeah, something like that, you know,
- 1:57:51uh, you know it'd be funny. Our truth would come out with like
- 1:57:55the Judgment Days of music too, I would fucking die, oh man.
- 1:58:00So I'm sure we'll get like a funny moment like that. But yeah,
- 1:58:06dude, I think this is it. I mean, it's not impossible.
- 1:58:11Hell's already frozen over. So I'm expecting seeing Punk to walk out, you
- 1:58:16know, as the winner here, Trey. I really your opinion, man,
- 1:58:25Yeah, as much as as much as the women's rumble, like you
- 1:58:31said, was gonna be about returns and I'm surprises it. Yeah, I
- 1:58:39think this rumble is probably the men's rumble, Like we said, it's gonna
- 1:58:44be pretty much about setting up WrestleMania. I think as deep as the men's
- 1:58:48roster is, I think it's pretty obvious that it's gonna be either Cody or
- 1:58:56seeing Punk. I don't think anybody else stands a realistic chance of winning the
- 1:59:00rumble. So we know almost certainly those are going to be two of the
- 1:59:04final four, and then the last other two will probably be like Randy Orton
- 1:59:10in l A Night, if I had to predict, those will probably be
- 1:59:14the final four in it because well, no, no, because we got
- 1:59:18guns I don't think. I don't know if Gunster is going to be one
- 1:59:21of the final four. He may be. I just I kind of think
- 1:59:26it would be kind of half for all half SmackDown in terms of the final
- 1:59:30four, but it could We know it's gonna be Cody and see him punkin
- 1:59:32of two of them. The other two it could be Randy Orton, it
- 1:59:35could be and Gunter and the Brock might return. We see that he may
- 1:59:45return, but I don't think he'll make it to the end, just like
- 1:59:48last year he returned, but he got eliminated like in the middle of the
- 1:59:51match. Actually, and both of them were like two of the big favorites
- 1:59:58outside of Cody to Brock Gunther beef from Last Rumble, we could and maybe
- 2:00:05Brock returns and eliminates Gunter early on, which could potentially set up our Lessler
- 2:00:14Gunter match at WrestleMania that's also speculated could go to either route. But yeah,
- 2:00:21it's it's seems pretty obvious that it's gonna come down to Cody and see
- 2:00:27him Punk in terms of Final two. And my money is, I'm kind
- 2:00:32of with you, I'm kind of leaning towards more seem Punk getting it and
- 2:00:38Cody will get his shot at Elimination Chamber because I think they're gonna need to
- 2:00:45with that one being an international show, and we know how WW really likes
- 2:00:48to stack up their card at international shows, and I think having see them
- 2:00:55Punk have his quote unquote ng ring debut at Elimination Chamber at a pl match
- 2:01:05actually it was first televised match being at Elimination Chamber, that helps add to
- 2:01:10that show. Also, you can stack up the card for the Elimination Chamber
- 2:01:14match with Cody and Randy Jordan and l A. Knight and Jay Us or
- 2:01:21whoeverlse you want to throw in there to have a really stacked card as opposed
- 2:01:26to last year, which really wasn't that stacked, but it did have a
- 2:01:29ton of good, great performers in last year's elimination chamber match. So this
- 2:01:34one, yeah, I think this one's I think this one's actually I want
- 2:01:40to I want to go as far as saying it's gonna be boring, but
- 2:01:44it's very gonna be It's gonna be very paint by the numbers. I think.
- 2:01:48I think we're pretty much I don't know that we're gonna see a whole
- 2:01:51lot of surprises per se, because again, I don't think it's gonna be
- 2:01:58surprising if Lesler shows up at like number ten and is eliminated by number twenty.
- 2:02:03I don't think that's gonna be surprising. Despite Michael Cole's valiant efforts on
- 2:02:09the mic to make it seem like it's surprising, it's really not going to
- 2:02:13be. I think this was gonna be very paint by the numbers, and
- 2:02:15yeah, we'll probably what's all said and done, see him punk will eliminate
- 2:02:20Cody Rhodes to win. Too nice. Now for Doyle's opinion, shit,
- 2:02:35I just lost my place. Yeah, I mean, I think this is
- 2:02:41gonna be less about returns and more about setting up any and just like we
- 2:02:44said, it's so uh, here's the thing. We've only one SmackDown name
- 2:02:49announced right lastly. Yeah, and I mean we got you got your six
- 2:02:55and both the matches or both SmackDown matches, get your top six stars basically
- 2:02:59on SmackDown. All not going to be in the rumble, I assume,
- 2:03:02but I guess Roman. I guess five because Vegas. Roman wouldn't be in
- 2:03:05the rumble anyway. I'd be surprised if Solo's not in the rumble. Solo,
- 2:03:12oh yeah, he might be in the rumble, sure, But I
- 2:03:14mean La Knight's not going to be, Randy's not going to be. A
- 2:03:16J's not going to be. Ko is not going to be. Logan Paul
- 2:03:20is not going to be you know, and they're on the I mean,
- 2:03:24I could make a case for ten or twelve guys and if five of them
- 2:03:28are just cross off the list because I don't, you know, they already
- 2:03:30have a match. I don't think they're going to be in the rumble.
- 2:03:33Maybe they will, I don't know. I will say I wouldn't rule that
- 2:03:36out. I could. I wouldn't be surprised to see maybe not all of
- 2:03:40them, but some of those guys be in the match and then have their
- 2:03:45match and still be in the Rumble Saturday afternoon when the when the match order
- 2:03:48leaks, that will give us our answer, right thing like if the men
- 2:03:54I don't know, though I can't. I can't see La Knight or Randy
- 2:03:57Orton or whatever entering the Rumble and then having the champion Ancient match after.
- 2:04:00The only way I could see that happen is if they have the championship match
- 2:04:03and then end of the Rumble. But I think the championship match is gonna
- 2:04:06be last. But are they gonna go Rumble match Ko, rumble match Roman?
- 2:04:12I don't think so. So I don't know. I think it depends
- 2:04:15on what the fucking card ends up here, and I guess I think the
- 2:04:18men's Rumble match will be last this time around like last year. Last year
- 2:04:24obviously it ended on the uh on the the Bloodline match because the Bloodline was
- 2:04:29the hottest thing in wrestling at the time. I don't think it has that
- 2:04:31same that same interest as it did last year, so I could see them
- 2:04:35just going back to the old traditional route of ending with the Men's Rumble this
- 2:04:41year, but like, yeah, but I could make a case for Cody
- 2:04:45or gun Throat or Punk or Drew or Sammy or Jay or the Rock,
- 2:04:48which I don't think is gonna happen. But you know, it's like,
- 2:04:51and I don't really like the idea of somebody returning and winning the Rumble two
- 2:04:56years in a row, But I also think it's gonna be the Punk.
- 2:05:00It just makes the most sense, you know. And uh, and he
- 2:05:03fights Seth. You know, I I don't see how you don't do that.
- 2:05:08It just seems so obvious. We had talked in the discord about how
- 2:05:15we get Jimmy and Jay back together for a WrestleMania match, and I think
- 2:05:17I got your answer. And it hearkens back to the Year of Our Lord
- 2:05:24nineteen eighty nine, the Royal Rumble that year. Do you remember who number
- 2:05:29one and number two were? I was, wait, eighty nine Ogan?
- 2:05:34Was it Hogan? In? Uh? Macho, no, no, no,
- 2:05:38no, I don't remember that one oh no, Demolition Acts. Number
- 2:05:43two was Demolition Smash. But if number one is Jay Uzzo, number two
- 2:05:49is Jimmy Uzo, how awesome that would be? And like maybe they won't
- 2:05:56even have to touch hands. That much in the beginning either it is is
- 2:05:59talking a lot of ship. You know, they don't have to turn out
- 2:06:01and then and then it give you a little tease, give us a little
- 2:06:06person there. Maybe they're even working together for a little bit against the third
- 2:06:11person. And then Jimmy, Yeah, yeah, we just thro solo in
- 2:06:16there. Oh, I think that why he's not looking? Could we as
- 2:06:21in well, to set it up, one of them would have to eliminate
- 2:06:25the other. So if we go down that route, are you implying that
- 2:06:30we would get an early out from j Maybe, I don't know if it's
- 2:06:39for the story. If it's for the story, that would be he as
- 2:06:44though, right, Imagine how much the crowd would hate Jimmy for that,
- 2:06:47for throwing j out so fucking ear they like, just ah, yeah,
- 2:06:55that would be major heat for Jimmy. I wouldn't be I won't be surprised
- 2:06:59to see the montez Ford have a good showing, uh ahead of that reality
- 2:07:05show about to come out. But then you know, he had a great
- 2:07:10showing at the Elimination Chamber last year and then did fucking funk all the rest
- 2:07:13of the year, So uh, who knows, But I wouldn't be surprised
- 2:07:17to see a big showing from him. Yeah, Returns, I think Brock
- 2:07:20almost certainly. I would love to see Wade Barrett do the commentator entering the
- 2:07:28rumble. I love that bit. But the other big name that's out there
- 2:07:31is Ocada. I don't think it's a realistic possibility, but again, I
- 2:07:36think it's a non zero number, so that would be huge if if he
- 2:07:43entered the Rumble, it would definitely it'd be huge on it. Yeah,
- 2:07:47I agree with you, that would be huge. I think it would absolutely
- 2:07:50blow up on the internet more so than it would in the Florida Yeah.
- 2:07:58Yeah, maybe maybe, but yeah, I think it's gonna be PEPSI phil
- 2:08:01uh But I think I think you could make a case for, uh,
- 2:08:07you know, well, if the if the SmackDown five are in the match,
- 2:08:11uh fuck twelve twelve thirteen guys, I could make a case for.
- 2:08:18Yeah, I agree with. I am kind of on the side that I
- 2:08:22don't see those guys competing in the match. It'ssel in as far as orton
- 2:08:28styles in l A. Knight, where I don't see them competing in the
- 2:08:31match itself and then following it up and being in the Rumble because that it
- 2:08:37kind of reeks of double dipping to a certain extent, like, oh damn,
- 2:08:41I lost that match. Oh well, let me go get up in
- 2:08:43the Rubble. Maybe one of them, but not all three. So it's
- 2:08:46not unprecedented for uh yeah, match to be but that was more of a
- 2:08:50when the Royal Rumble was the main event of the night. Yeah deal,
- 2:08:54Yeah, I think we've had help hell less working. I mean I could
- 2:08:56also see an Orton, uh you know, I don't know, some somebody
- 2:09:03Chad Gables gets introduced, and I could see Randy On coming archae out of
- 2:09:07nowhere and he takes his spot. I could see something like that happening.
- 2:09:11Yeah, I mean I could see maybe one of them showing up, but
- 2:09:13not all of them. Will say, didn't we see Leslard do it at
- 2:09:16one year, have a match at the Rumble and then be in the match,
- 2:09:20or like lose a title match or no, it was it was the
- 2:09:24year that he dropped his title to Lashley, wasn't it then he lose the
- 2:09:28title to lash Lee at the Rumble and then was in the Rumble match itself.
- 2:09:33That certainly plausible. I think that was it, but uh yeah,
- 2:09:39but again, I don't think I would see all three of them. I
- 2:09:41could see maybe one, maybe two of them at the most show up in
- 2:09:45the match, just because WW might want that pop of them entering the Rumble
- 2:09:50even if they don't win it. I think there is a strong possibility of
- 2:09:56Kevin Owen's entering the match because I believe his his match, barring anything else
- 2:10:01being added on prior to this, which I would almost be certain that something
- 2:10:05will get added. I just can't see this being a four match card.
- 2:10:09Yeah, I agree, but it's gonna be from SmackDown. Are there gonna
- 2:10:11be three SmackDown matches? I don't know. Maybe, I don't know.
- 2:10:15Maybe they throw in the Why does or EO have a match, you know,
- 2:10:18like tragic crazy titles? Yeah, well I expect both of them to
- 2:10:28be in the match. Yeah, yeah, they're both gonna be in the
- 2:10:31Rumbo match itself. So yeah, I mean, definitely space for some sort
- 2:10:37of women's title match if not real, because well, she ain't really got
- 2:10:41no challengers. That's why then she ain't got her damn match. Because her
- 2:10:46championship booking has been not that great. Her character book has been phenomenal.
- 2:10:50Her booking as a champion has not been that great. Io. She ain't
- 2:10:54really got much of a challenger either at the moment. Really, it'd be
- 2:11:00nice to see the maybe the woman's tag titles be defended at the Rumble.
- 2:11:03But again, they're said to have a match this Friday on SmackDown. I
- 2:11:07don't think they're gonna run it back that quickly. Well, they're obviously not
- 2:11:11gonna run back that quickly, like twenty four hours later, So yeah,
- 2:11:15I don't know where they find the space to add a match, but damn,
- 2:11:18it just seems kind of weak having a four match lineup. They need
- 2:11:22to bring the twenty four to seventh title. Huh fuck, no shit,
- 2:11:31do you guys Do you guys catch Nikky Cross? Uh watching a match from
- 2:11:37on the stage. She was like creeping. I missed it. I saw
- 2:11:41somebody say something about it in the discord, but I missed it. Yeah.
- 2:11:45Yeah, I've been just like noticing that they've been putting it do that
- 2:11:48again with the just weird people in the background. Yeah it made sense.
- 2:11:54Yeah, but that made sense at least this past Monday. Like you tease
- 2:11:56them backstage, like, oh they're here, Wonder what I got going on?
- 2:12:00And then we see them show up do something. But like that's been
- 2:12:05Nicky Cross's character, right, she just does stands around catatonically. Well,
- 2:12:11so, uh, this weekend, I thought, while I watched The Rumble,
- 2:12:16I'll probably probably be watching it up in my office this weekend. I'm
- 2:12:22gonna be streaming it. Uh so if we want to party watch, I'll
- 2:12:28post the link on the discord. If anybody's you know, Blady wants to
- 2:12:33watch it with me, I'm just gonna party watch it. I'll post the
- 2:12:37link up. Yeah, it'll be fun. And I don't know when we're
- 2:12:41gonna do the post show. Uh, when we can all get together,
- 2:12:46we'll find a date for it. So if it's a little later of an
- 2:12:50episode, it is what it is, but we'll get let's have to go
- 2:12:54on vacation. Yeah yeah, so yeah, yeah, but you know what,
- 2:13:01I've been trying to line up more interviews, trying to make those some
- 2:13:03fillers, uh, you know, stuff like that. So no worries,
- 2:13:09no worries. But I'm excited. I'm excited about this pay per view.
- 2:13:13I think it's gonna be a pretty good one. You know, Like I
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- 2:14:58yeah, that's all I got. Oh one more thing. I was on
- 2:15:01scenic cast the other day. I had to go see Beekeeper in theaters,
- 2:15:09which I really liked. I had. Yeah, dude, I liked it
- 2:15:13more than I thought I would. I was so awesome. I don't know
- 2:15:20if I'd go and see it again in theaters, but I'm gonna buy it
- 2:15:22when it comes out. I liked it. And then I had to watch
- 2:15:28Good Grief was not my thing. It was there like a romance drama now
- 2:15:33my thing. And then we revisited an old movie and that was the Fifth
- 2:15:37Element. Man, Fifth Element, Bruce Willis, So I think, and
- 2:15:43I'll be on another episode this weekend. Somehow. I'm gonna put that in
- 2:15:48there as well. So your definition of old movie and my definition of old
- 2:15:54movie or not the same. It's like ninety seven so element in old movie?
- 2:16:01How dare you that just came out last week? If that's an old
- 2:16:07movie? That what the hell is Jurassic Park. That yeah, right,
- 2:16:11a little older, Mila, right. I think of old movies. I
- 2:16:20think of back when a MC was American Movie Classics and all they shows black
- 2:16:26and white films all day. That's what I think of old movies, not
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