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Ripple Episode 3 (Netflix) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast taking
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  Speaker 2: a little detour to Netflix. I'm Megan and I'm a
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  Speaker 2: longtime Hallmark fan and I've been a Netflix fan since
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  Speaker 2: the days of the DVDs.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, wow, memory unlocked. Remember you could like
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  Speaker 3: get out like five at a time or whatever. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: and it felt roundbreaking to get them in the mail.
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  Speaker 3: I love those red envelopes. Oh, DVDs. I don't even
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  Speaker 3: have a DVD player anymore, do you not? I don't
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  Speaker 3: think so that I have used. So I'm Wendy. I'm
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  Speaker 3: a former Hallmark cater, a longtime fan of Netflix. Can
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  Speaker 3: I just, as an aside, drop a Netflix news bit
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  Speaker 3: that I just saw? Yeah, Gilmore Girls A Year in
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  Speaker 3: a Life, which was originally made for Netflix, is leaving
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  Speaker 3: the streamer. Oh, like it's contract has run out. Oh
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  Speaker 3: isn't that crazy? That's weird. I don't have a ton
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  Speaker 3: of details. I did read some stuff that there's like
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  Speaker 3: maybe some negotiation happening, because I think like Netflix might
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  Speaker 3: be in some sort of like merger.
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  Speaker 2: Deal or something. Yeah, trying, I don't know the details.
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  Speaker 2: Hbox for a show that does like so well on
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  Speaker 2: the streamer. I'm well, I'm sure it's a little show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm sure it's not that Netflix doesn't want it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's like we paid whoever X dollars to
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  Speaker 2: have it for ten years Warner Brothers. Yeah, exactly, and
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  Speaker 2: now they're like, if you want to keep it, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta pay up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: On today's episode, we are discussing Rippel episode three, the
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  Speaker 2: twenty which is currently streaming on Netflix. Can I tell
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  Speaker 2: you speaking of DVDs, I was talking about I was
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  Speaker 2: talking about getting screeners of episodes for our Hallmark podcast
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  Speaker 2: with a friend and I said something and she was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: She's like, I didn't realize it was digital. I was
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  Speaker 2: envisioning them mailing you DVDs until that I say, Karen,
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  Speaker 2: I love you, but it is twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: This is a person who it doesn't want to get
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  Speaker 2: a new car because she knows that when she does,
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  Speaker 2: she will no longer have a physical key to put
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  Speaker 2: in the ignition. Oh my, all out of love though,
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  Speaker 2: all out of love. If you're listening to this episode
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  Speaker 2: and you're new to us, hey follow us on Instagram,
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  Speaker 2: where we are Girls Gone Hallmark to keep up with
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  Speaker 2: all the new Apple episodes and shows that we are covering.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Hallmark heavy over there, but we are dipping
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  Speaker 3: our toe into some Netflix content seeing how that lands
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  Speaker 3: with our audience. And it's landing.
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  Speaker 2: So indeed, And as you mentioned, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it was in last week's Ripple review or one of
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  Speaker 2: the other many reviews we've dropped, but we have gotten
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  Speaker 2: several recommendations from listeners of other movies that we should
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  Speaker 2: cover Frusu or some upcoming ones. So Girls on Netflix
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  Speaker 2: isn't going anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Girls Gone Netflix just a full brand change on.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, let's hear a synopsis of Ripple episode three, A
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  Speaker 2: flyaway dollar Bill.
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  Speaker 3: It was not a dollar, it was a twenty dollar bill.
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  Speaker 3: A flyaway twenty dollar bill leads Chris toward an old
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  Speaker 3: music client. Walter and Tara enjoy an afternoon at needs bar,
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  Speaker 3: and Ariya shares exciting news with John. I mean, can
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  Speaker 3: you get any vaguer with this synopsis here?
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  Speaker 1: I know?
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  Speaker 3: Vaguer is that a word? Can we get any more
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  Speaker 3: more vague?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if vager is a word.
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  Speaker 2: Scott Smith directed this episode. He has directed a ton
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  Speaker 2: of Hallmark projects like Frozen in Love and Autumn the Vineyard,
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  Speaker 2: as well as episodes of the Sigin Sealed Delivered series.
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  Speaker 3: Can I just stop you there for a second for
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  Speaker 3: listeners who may just be tuning in for Ripple and
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  Speaker 3: not have any like Hallmark context. Yes, So this show
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  Speaker 3: was originally going to air on Hallmark Plus, which is
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  Speaker 3: the Hallmark Channel streamer, And that's why you might hear
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  Speaker 3: us say stuff like, oh, he directed Hallmark projects.
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  Speaker 1: Like X y Z.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of crossover between the networks here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And in this case, because this is a Netflix episode,
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  Speaker 2: I would have pulled out other content, but the vast
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  Speaker 2: majority of his work is very Hallmark heavy.
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  Speaker 1: Got It.
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  Speaker 3: Quits wrote this episode of Ripple. Joni has written on
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  Speaker 3: series like Jane the Virgin, New Girl and Chasing Life.
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  Speaker 2: Phoenix Ellis joins the cast as Gabriel Finn's brother. He
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  Speaker 2: has nine acting projects under his belt and has also
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  Speaker 2: appeared in Christmas Ceo on Hallmark.
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  Speaker 3: Eden Brota plays Rebecca. Eden's previous credits include a spot
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  Speaker 3: on Work and Moms and the TV movie Styled with Love.
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  Speaker 2: Christian de la Cortina plays Finn's dad, Davide. Most recently,
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  Speaker 2: he appeared in the TV series Dumas.
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  Speaker 3: Perry Voss plays Finn's mom Rainey. Last year, she appeared
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  Speaker 3: in ten episodes of this series Stories From My Gay Grandparents?
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  Speaker 3: Where did that air?
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  Speaker 2: I Mark, We're going to take a quick break and
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna come right back with our first impression of
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  Speaker 2: episode three of Ripple. Hey, Wendy, what was your first
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  Speaker 2: impression of this episode? The twenty Ripple being in the
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  Speaker 2: top five shows this week on Netflix tells me that
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  Speaker 2: audience will absolutely show up for stories telling and that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't follow a template OOO, although this story has created
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  Speaker 2: its own template for sure. But if you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying, what I'm saying right, my first impression is
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  Speaker 2: I think we may have hit an all time high
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  Speaker 2: with the number of times I said no while watching
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  Speaker 2: a single episode of television. Can I let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you so? I may have mentioned in a previous episode
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  Speaker 2: that I told my husband about this show. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I have a recommendation for you, and then like then afterwards,
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  Speaker 2: I told him that it was supposed to be a
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  Speaker 2: Hallmark show because he doesn't watch Hallmark with me. We
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  Speaker 2: were chatting, and I was like, oh, are you still
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  Speaker 2: watching Ripple? He's like, yeah, I just got to the
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  Speaker 2: part with dot dot dot and I was like no.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I'm sorry, you're not there yet. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I am not.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay, spoilers, don't like bother me because I'll still
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  Speaker 3: watch whatever anyway. Yes, And then last night I heard
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  Speaker 3: he was watching it. I was upstairs and I came
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  Speaker 3: downstairs and I was like, oh, you so watching Ripple.
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  Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, I just watched the end. And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, huh, okay, don't tell me what happens, but
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  Speaker 3: tell me what happens. And he refused to tell me
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  Speaker 3: what happens. I was like, please tell me, like Nate
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  Speaker 3: is still alive, and he wouldn't say anything. Oh no,
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  Speaker 3: Nate has to survive.
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  Speaker 2: Like we need a season two. We can't have a
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  Speaker 2: season two without Nate.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, ask someone who has had stage to cancer. It's
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  Speaker 3: very like survivalferable. Yeah, survivable. So Nate's gonna live. Guys.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I'm putting it out there. I yes. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like we're gonna have some scares with Nate. Like it's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna be just like a straight line trajectory like
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  Speaker 2: chemo surgery. Yay, right, there's gonna be something that's going
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  Speaker 2: to frighten us, But making the choice for it to
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  Speaker 2: be stage two is like just enough for it to
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  Speaker 2: be like, Okay, this is scary to deal with it,
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  Speaker 2: but not like you're definitely not gonna be around in
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  Speaker 2: the next few years scary.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because let me tell you, I am currently watching
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  Speaker 3: The Big Sea, which is also streaming on Netflix and
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  Speaker 3: also about cancer, and our main character has stage four
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  Speaker 3: cancer series, and so you can see.
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  Speaker 1: Where that is heading. Yeah, that's not great.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and on top of it, we're reading through our
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  Speaker 3: news and notes here, and our writer of this episode
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  Speaker 3: also wrote on the show Chasing Life, also about cancer. Indeed,
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  Speaker 3: so I gotta tell you, I was like, do I
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  Speaker 3: need to watch that show? And I think if I
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  Speaker 3: was in Megan's head right now, you would be saying, no, Windy,
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  Speaker 3: you don't need to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think you might be not doing good things for
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  Speaker 3: yourself right now, overdoing it. Yeah, in cancer content.
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  Speaker 2: It maybe maybe when we're done with this and The
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  Speaker 2: Big Sea and you've taken a nice long break, I
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  Speaker 2: think you might be right.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, let's talk what we liked about this episode. Well,
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  Speaker 3: for me or the central idea of this episode is
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  Speaker 3: about basically like life keeps moving even when everything is
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  Speaker 3: shitty happening around us, right, I mean, I think that
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  Speaker 3: applies to anything, if you have an illness or death
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  Speaker 3: in the family or whatever, Like life does keep moving on.
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  Speaker 3: What I really liked a lot was how they opened
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  Speaker 3: this episode with the voice over of Nate talking about
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  Speaker 3: this kind of thing everyday moments and about life still
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  Speaker 3: continuing but people still show up, And I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was great. Again, if I may, I am watching these
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  Speaker 3: episodes with like very close eyes. I kind of hate it,
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  Speaker 3: to be honest, because I can't just enjoy it, let
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  Speaker 3: it wash over me and enjoy it. I'm like, what's
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  Speaker 3: the deeper meaning here? How can I make the connection?
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  Speaker 3: What is happening? Do you know what I'm talking about?
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  Speaker 1: I do?
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  Speaker 3: So when that twenty dollars bill floated off, I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: here we go. Where what ride are you taking us
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  Speaker 3: on right now? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So, okay, I want to talk about a couple of
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  Speaker 2: things you said. First of all, Nate's voiceover. The voiceover
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  Speaker 2: is different. Every episode started with Aria than we had
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  Speaker 2: Walter and now we have Nate. Have you noticed that
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  Speaker 2: the lines that they say in their voiceover make it
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  Speaker 2: into the episode.
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  Speaker 3: I only noticed it in this episode. I noticed it
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  Speaker 3: with Walter last week. I need to go back.
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  Speaker 2: I have to assume they did the same thing with Aria,
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  Speaker 2: because it happened with both Walter and Nate. I love
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  Speaker 2: that because it's not obvious. It's not obvious that we're
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  Speaker 2: hearing a bit of dialogue in that moment. It sounds
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  Speaker 2: like voiceover narration. Also, to your point of the twenty
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  Speaker 2: eat all our bill, we immediately understand our this is
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  Speaker 2: the catalyst of this episode. You talked about this show
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  Speaker 2: not being formulaic, but it has written its own formula,
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  Speaker 2: so viewers immediately know this is this is going to
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  Speaker 2: bring everybody together. This episode and the fact that I
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  Speaker 2: understand we're only three episodes in, but that they did
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  Speaker 2: this I have to assume eight times is pretty incredible storytelling.
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  Speaker 2: If you ask me, same, same, same, same. Let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about Nate and Claire Wolf.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: We start with them having a very uncomfortable exchange in
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  Speaker 2: their home kitchen, and once again we do not have
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  Speaker 2: all of the information here, but Claire is trying so
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  Speaker 2: hard to on one end, maybe just make things a
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  Speaker 2: happy home. On the other end, it seems like she's
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  Speaker 2: trying to end this separation. She wants them to be
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  Speaker 2: a couple, and when he says he's not working, she's like,
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  Speaker 2: I thought you'd like to stay home when you're working,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, I like to do that when this
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  Speaker 2: was home.
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  Speaker 1: Is such a gut punch.
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  Speaker 3: How can you and I take that personally if you
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  Speaker 3: are not Claire well, or if you are Claire indeed,
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  Speaker 3: And then.
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  Speaker 2: She wants to be there for chemo and she says,
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  Speaker 2: don't be a martyr, and he says that would imply
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  Speaker 2: I actually want you there. I mean, Nate is done
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  Speaker 2: with her. He's so mean to her. He is so
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  Speaker 2: mean to her. You're right, we don't have a ton
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  Speaker 2: of context of like how he got to this point, right,
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  Speaker 2: mm hmmm. That makes me feel bad for Claire and agreece. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So we get a little bit of a reveal. We
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  Speaker 2: mentioned that red folder in last episode. We learned that
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  Speaker 2: Nate had found this folder with her MLM paperwork inside
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  Speaker 2: of it, and Claire's gotten herself into a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a sticky situation. But this opens up more questions
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  Speaker 2: because she says, oh, well, you know, I was just
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  Speaker 2: trying to trying this out as a side hustle to
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  Speaker 2: make a little extra money to get us out of
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  Speaker 2: the financial stress that I caused.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I miss that.
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  Speaker 1: Note.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I heard the side hustle thing, but I miss
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  Speaker 3: that whatever what other financial stress she had put on them?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Oof oof Okay, So like she's she's trying to be
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  Speaker 3: a team Nate just wants to get away from her,
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  Speaker 3: And you're right, I do feel badly for her, But
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  Speaker 3: I also think it's very clear there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: information we don't have because everything we know about Nate
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  Speaker 3: outside of his marriage, Nate's a good guy. Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: So these are hard for.
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  Speaker 2: Me because I'm like, wait a minute, this isn't a
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  Speaker 2: good guy Nate. Later in the episode, Nate's mom shows up.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Claire was gonna tell her everything. Yeah, to me,
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  Speaker 2: it looked like she was gonna be like, this secret
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  Speaker 2: is too heavy to bear. Instead, she just tells her
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  Speaker 2: that they're separated. But his mom's like, oh, separation push posh.
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  Speaker 2: Like NIC's dad and I separated all the time, we're
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  Speaker 2: still married. And I this gives Claire so much falls hope.
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  Speaker 2: And then I knew in that moment.
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  Speaker 3: I knew that she was gonna be like, oh, it's
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  Speaker 3: up to me to save this marriage, and that she
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  Speaker 3: was gonna go to chemo. I knew.
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  Speaker 2: And then she was going to see them through the window.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that's rough because like she walks up at the hospital,
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  Speaker 3: sees them through the window. They're like canoodling, right basically,
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  Speaker 3: and Finn, our little young patient, sees the whole thing happen. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if that will come into play at some
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  Speaker 3: point or I mean, it can't be just coincidental, like
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  Speaker 3: is Finn gonna say something to Nate about it next
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  Speaker 3: time or who knows? Who knows? But you know, Claire
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  Speaker 3: getting that information that had to be tough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I did.
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  Speaker 3: I did feel for her. I did feel for her.
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  Speaker 3: Just a couple of little things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We have Walter and his physical pain. Right. What I
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  Speaker 3: loved is like he's saying, like I need to see
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  Speaker 3: a chiropractor. Ellis puts him together with her girlfriend, who
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: is Pete, and then the pet comes over and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting. The pet was talking about
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  Speaker 3: like your body holding on to your grief is manifesting
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  Speaker 3: into like physical pain. Basically, I thought that was just
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  Speaker 3: an interesting conversation. Yes, but are you worried about Walter?
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  Speaker 3: I'm super worried about Walter until I saw the until
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  Speaker 3: the end of this episode. God, now you just put
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  Speaker 3: that in my head? Is Walt he gonna make it?
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  Speaker 3: Because Walter is probably my favorite character. Walter is the
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  Speaker 3: heart and soul of this show.
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  Speaker 2: For me, I thought that physical therapy scene. I know
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  Speaker 2: you want to talk about the end, but just that
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  Speaker 2: physical therapy scene, Rebecca's asking Walter questions about his pain.
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  Speaker 1: She looks concerned to me, but then she says, stump
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  Speaker 1: on that.
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  Speaker 2: Then she says, you know, your pain can manifest like
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  Speaker 2: your emotional pain can manifest physically, And in my brain
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  Speaker 2: I was like, one of two ways, Please let that
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  Speaker 2: just be it. But they just talk. He talks about
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  Speaker 2: this pain he's in so much, and they show him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he does the wolf getting off the couch,
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  Speaker 2: which look I do sometimes too, and he's uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 3: So it just does worry me.
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  Speaker 2: But there's there's too many other things going on. I
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  Speaker 2: can't have something else before my sweet Walter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's You're right, there's so many other things
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  Speaker 3: like where my brain is drawn to in terms of
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  Speaker 3: the storytelling, that I hadn't given Walter's actual physical much thought.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if I can go there. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if I can go there. Listen Walter. I
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  Speaker 3: love Walter. But when he and Terror are at the
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  Speaker 3: bar and he's asking the questions, so, ellis how does
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  Speaker 3: she identify? And he's he's asking for explanation, and this
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  Speaker 3: scene is done so well. Marcyte House is such perfection
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  Speaker 3: in this scene, the queer newsletter that.
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  Speaker 1: Went out.
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  Speaker 3: Got it right, so good, and Walter goes, oh, not.
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  Speaker 1: Like that makes perfect sense.
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  Speaker 3: I loved this so much, and at its core I
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  Speaker 3: always have to go, oh my god, this was going
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  Speaker 3: to be on Hallmark. This was going to be on Hallmark.
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  Speaker 3: Gosh us it's such a freaking missed opportunity that Hallmark
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  Speaker 3: sold this show. I you know, I have so many
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  Speaker 3: mixed feelings about it because on one hand, it's getting
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  Speaker 3: such bigger exposure on Netflix, number five, number five on Netflix, yes,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, Netflix US, Netflix Canada, Netflix UK. It's
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  Speaker 3: doing well on all of these platforms. It would not
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  Speaker 3: have gotten that exposure on Hallmark Plus. On the other hand,
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  Speaker 3: what a get this would have been for Hallmark to
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  Speaker 3: hopefully things like this. It's what I hope when we
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: talk about twelve dates of Christmas on Hallmark. I'm like,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: let this bring people in. And by bringing people in
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: and supporting this new content, I just I know this
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  Speaker 3: isn't a Hallmark episode. But my concern about Hallmark is.
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  Speaker 2: The community is small and they need to grow it,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: and they're not going to grow it by doing the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: exact same thing, Like you're going to keep those people,
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  Speaker 2: but you're not going to get new ones.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Like our podcast exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. I did love at the end though, when we
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: see Walter with his big bucket of coins and he's
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: just outfeeding the meter we didn't talk about at the
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: opening of the episode with the guy running down and
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: like getting a ticket for not having a paid meter.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: But it all comes for full circle and just Walter
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: is just such a good guy.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: It's funny because in the final scene when that guy's
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: running to his meter, that's also when Ari is about
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: to go for a run, and I was like, oh gosh,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: there's something going to happen here. It just something about it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And then he arrives at his meter and it's been paid,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: and I was just like, oh, Walter cut to Walter
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: feeding the meters. Walter experiencing joy is one.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Of my favorite things.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It's the same Frankie Kaison is so good in those moments.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: And I want to say too, there's something with the
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: set design with him and his apartment. It's so well done.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: When he's sitting at like their little like kitchenette and
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: there's all these like beautiful like family photos behind have
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: you noticed like on the wall, it just really gives
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: like that was his happy place with Brenda and Brenda's
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: not there anymore, and then he has these like memories
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: of her. I mean, and even like the lighting the
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: way they shoot the scene, it's a little bit darker
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: in those apartments, like it feels kind of lonely. That's
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: why I love watching this relationship with him and Tara unfold.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: When she calls and he's like, what do you need
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: and she goes, why do I need? I don't need
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: anything to call a friend, and I just was like, man, man, well,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: And also when he's like surprised that he's still a
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: priority for her even after her date, like the joy
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: when she says, let's have lunch tomorrow and he realizes, oh,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: our worlds can expand and to include all of these people. Yes, Walter,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I'd like to talk about Ny and Chris. Yes, I
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: adore their relationship. Oh do I hear a butt?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: No?
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: No, no, but no, it's not a butt. I adore
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: their relationship. When he calls her and they make plans
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: for takeout and she's like, oh, I don't know where
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: you live. Every exchange they have is like they look
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: each other in the eye. Sometimes there's a ton of
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: humor about it because she talks about, well, it's scary
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: to go out on my own and he goes, yeah,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: so's chemo. Like I just like the way they give
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: it to each other. But then he lets her in.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: She's the first person that he really lets in on
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: what's going on with his health. He has a panic attack.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: They have that moment on the floor, which is so great.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: She shows up for him at the hospital and I
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: loved that hospital scene. Chris shows up, Finn's there, Finn's
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: cracking jokes. Chris connects with Finn in this totally effortless way, Obviously,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: chemo is not a fun experience for anyone involved, but
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: they just you can see even in the background some
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: of the other patients are laughing.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Along with them. But of course at the end, Chris
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: is gone, yeah, where'd she go? Because she was just
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: gonna go outside and wait for him.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's in my wishes, but I'm like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I really hope this is just a she's like in
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: another room and she's gonna pop in, and he's gonna
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: have that moment of panic of like I let people
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: in and they abandoned me.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Oh god, Yeah.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: And she's gonna come back and he's gonna realize, like,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: no people do show up. But my other concern is
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: was it too much? Did she have this moment.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Where they were like family?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like this is too too too much for me?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, too much, too soon.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I hope not. I hope not.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like Chris is like that, but I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: don't either.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: But where do I don't know? Yeah, I don't know.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: How do you feel about John telling DESI like we've
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: gone too far? Basically, and then she sends the bracelet back.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I love the way DESSI just throws his words back
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: in his face when she says, Oh, you want to
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: talk about boundaries now after you used me to unload
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: all of your marital issues. Yea, And she sends the
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: bracelet back with a comment of wouldn't want to cross,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: you know, a boundary. I have a lot of concerns
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: about what's happening.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: There, and the many many near.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Misses with her seeing messages from DESI and her seeing
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: the envelope from DESI just make it feel like disaster
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: is looming. Everything's going well for her in her life.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: She Chris wants to represent her. She's feeling really good
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: about her relationship with John. They're in this like fun
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: flirty space.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Obviously stuff's going on with him, but.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: She's feeling good about it. She's even like, I'm gonna
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: take their advice and go for a run. I'm going
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: to shake off stress. But all of these things are
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: looming and I'm concerned. Yeah, and she thinks she might
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: be pregnant and I have to assume.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: That she's not, and that's going to cause something is
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: going to cause an emotional come.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Down for Aria.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did love Nate, revealing to Ellis
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: what's going on. Oh, it's in my digit see that.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, No, it's fine. I love that, Like he
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: has to, right, obviously he needs to in my digit
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: See that is I like the way that they did
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: that scene he tells her or actually he goes, I
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: have something to tell you, basically, and then the next
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: scene is her just like uppa scene. I just like
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: that they cut the part where he actually tells her again,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: like we don't need to. I mean we got it earlier.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: He told Chris earlier, right, I just thought it was
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: so well done. How they did that, Yes, how they
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: went from one scene to the next. Yeah, well, let's
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: talk about some wishes. I only have one h and
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: it has to do with Claire. Is mostly like we're
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: only getting like this one dimensional kind of perspective of
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: like Nate and we talked about it a little bit,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: but Nate is mad at Claire. I need more more
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: from that, Like I need a better understanding. I need
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Claire's perspective of the situation also. And I don't know
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: if you caught it, but there was a moment between
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Nate's mom and Claire where Nate's mom says something like
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: she gives her Aria's ring, like I didn't talk about,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: but Aria loses her ring. It comes into the jewelry store.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I'm guessing her mom owns a jewelry store. Is that
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: what you were picking up? I wasn't necessarily picking that up,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: or that she had just gone into a store and
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: it just so happened that it had been sold to
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the store. She was able to purchase it. Yes, yes, yes, yes, anyway,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: but she gives it to Claire and she's like, oh,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: we had kind of a rocky start, and I'm like, yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I need more information there. So I mean, I think
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: we'll get to it eventually. Maybe there's only so much
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: you can put in a forty five minute episode.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I guess, well, yeah, and they have to keep you
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: coming back and they want you to have complicated feelings
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: about that. There are many many unanswered questions, of course,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: three episodes into a season, but that is my biggest one,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and where I feel like I don't have solid footing
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: is the backstory with Claire, and I don't want to
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: root against her, but I do feel like we are
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: going to get some explanation for the reason Nate feels So,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: what's the word?
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: How do you just resentful.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean he's just angry.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I want to say, like he's not even really trying
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: to live civilly. He can't help but be mean. But
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: if you are in a constant state of frustration with someone,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: perhaps that's just the way it is. And if we
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: knew more, I mean, what has she done? Obviously there
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: he's worried about the financial state of his bar. She's
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: caused them some financial stress.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: What's going on? That's what I want to know.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I would like to know is she
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: gonna confront ate about Chris? Is she gonna hold that
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: in her back pocket for a weak moment? Is she
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: going to hold that against him in spite of the
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: fact that they're separated. Is she gonna throw it in
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: his face like he's cheating? I thought it was really
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: great when the nurse that chemo was like, this is
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: your wife, and Chris goes, you're married? Really funny, that's
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: so funny. Yeah, so so funny. I know we talk
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: some of our digitsy that moments, but do you have
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: any more? I do a couple quick little things. Chris
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: casually saying the word ass oh, which netflix not a problem, right,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: but again was originally for Hallmark Plus. Kind of interesting. Yeah,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: they don't get that kind of language even on Hallmark Plus.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: The next one was when Aria and John are out
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: eating pizza there out in front of a place called
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Carrot Common, which I was like, is this place at
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: it is in Toronto?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Which we knew this was where it's a grocer. I
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: just thought it was cute. I was like, what's Carrot Common? Yeah,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: And finally Walter calling in the bar my cheers, Oh yeah,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: that's going too. Loved it well.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: The quiet devastation of Finn and her family and her
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: brother whose name is Gabriel, when he and his mom
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: were walking in the possible We have no idea who
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: they are at that moment, and they're just how was
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: your day, and oh, let's have talkhost for dinner. That
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: sounds great. He's the boy at the beginning of the
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: episode who his money flew away and he couldn't buy
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the pretzel and I was like, just give him the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: pretzel anyway.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Oh that's funny that that that was your takeaway from it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, he seemed to be having a bad day.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: That was the image. He looked kind of forlorn in
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: that moment, I'm I'm projecting. But then they arrive at
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Thinn's room and she's like, oh, I'm starving, and the
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: parents are so glad that she finally has an appetite,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: and she's like, let's have spaghetti. And Gabriel has completely
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: forgotten the quiet devastation of you know, he is collateral
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: damage in her cancer journey as well. Yeah, that sucks.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: It's hard to see.
• 29:14
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