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The Rita Panahi Show | 20 June · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scolds Ostrodia. This it's the Wader Panalty Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panty Show. Coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight, we save the best the last with a
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  Speaker 2: stellar lineup of guests, including Douglas Murray on those eco
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  Speaker 2: terrorists who attack Stonehenge. State liberal leaders continue to distance
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  Speaker 2: themselves from Peter Dutton's nuclear strategy.
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  Speaker 3: I'll speak to Nick Kata about that.
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  Speaker 2: Also joining me tonight Kosher Gator and Kinsey Schofield.
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  Speaker 3: And we never forget left. He's losing it.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks to all the mavers of Congress and homewod Security Secretary.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now all the way from Budapest is Menzi's
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  Speaker 2: Research Center, Senior Fellow and wizarding Fellow at the Danubes Institute,
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  Speaker 2: Nick Kita, Nick, your title is getting longer and longer.
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  Speaker 2: But let's art locally with state liberal leaders including John
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  Speaker 2: Parsuto here in Victoria and David Chrisofulei in Queensland, who
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  Speaker 2: are distancing themselves from the coalition's nuclear plan.
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  Speaker 3: In Western Australia.
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  Speaker 2: The Estate's liberal energy spokesman, Steve Thomas says there is
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  Speaker 2: little community support in around the proposed site.
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  Speaker 3: In Collie, also warning.
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  Speaker 2: That a nuclear power plant would be too big for
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  Speaker 2: the WA energy grid. In Queensland, the Liberal leader David
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  Speaker 2: Chrysifolia said Peter Duttan's plans for two nuclear power plants
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  Speaker 2: was not part of his plan for the state. And
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  Speaker 2: in Victoria, the always happiest John Pursuito has said the
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  Speaker 2: state Libs have no plans at this stage for nuclear energy.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you make of this fracture within the
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  Speaker 2: coalition and their nuclear strategy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to say the polite thing first, which is
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  Speaker 4: obviously this is what we're to say. Obviously these men
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  Speaker 4: have not been well briefed. But for goodness sake, where
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  Speaker 4: have they been for the last two years with this
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  Speaker 4: debate raging about nuclear They're just not across the facts.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this guy in Wa to say it Wa
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  Speaker 4: is too small for a nuclear reactor, he's no idea
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  Speaker 4: what he's talking about. I'm sorry to say, Rita, And
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  Speaker 4: if you give me his phone number, I might ring
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  Speaker 4: up and give him some of the facts, which is
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  Speaker 4: small modular reactors actually work very well, and they work
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  Speaker 4: very well in remote locations. Incidentally, so you can power
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  Speaker 4: up Cartha or whatever you want to do, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so they are perfect for remote areas. Otherwise you just
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  Speaker 4: end up powering the North of Wa with diesel, which
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  Speaker 4: is what they're doing right now. So has he got
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  Speaker 4: a plan to change that or would he like to
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  Speaker 4: actually take a briefing on small modular reactors as to
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  Speaker 4: Christoph Foley, Christoph Fulou Sorry, it's you know, I mean
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  Speaker 4: he's doing this sort of load target strategy. But low
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  Speaker 4: target doesn't mean to say not standing up for the
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  Speaker 4: only sensible solution for Queensland's electricity. So anyway, let's see
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  Speaker 4: this play out at federal level first, And Peter Dutton,
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  Speaker 4: I'll take my hat off to him for taking the
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  Speaker 4: fight up to the government on this. We should have
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  Speaker 4: done it twenty years ago, of course, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: let's not cry over spilt milk.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we've saw similar weakness incoherence from the state Liberal
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  Speaker 2: leaders during the Voice campaign. Is the Liberal Party fundamentally
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  Speaker 2: broken at the state level?
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  Speaker 3: Not fit for purpose?
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  Speaker 2: They certainly don't seem to represent the views of the
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  Speaker 2: majority of their voters in the States, and you would
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  Speaker 2: think labor has given them so much material to work
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  Speaker 2: with here. Obviously, energy bills, cost of living are an
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  Speaker 2: enormous issue for just about every Australian and labor have
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  Speaker 2: gone straight into hysteric mode. Got ministers posting pictures of
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  Speaker 2: koalas with three eyes and three eyed fish and just
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  Speaker 2: trying to scare the electorate.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I just think they are not well briefed and
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  Speaker 4: they lack courage, and a combination of the two really
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  Speaker 4: reta because you know, I mean in South Australia, for instance,
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  Speaker 4: I'd be going out there as the opposition to say
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  Speaker 4: we're going to make this state self sufficient and electricity
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  Speaker 4: like we used to be when we had industry running here.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we won't have to go begging and borrowing
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  Speaker 4: dirty coal from from Victoria. That's what they should do.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they should actually come out with the positive
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  Speaker 4: South Australia first message. They could do it in Wa.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the minister's or the assistant the opposition spokesman
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  Speaker 4: is right that Wa is not connected to any other grid,
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  Speaker 4: which is a double reason why they need to be
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  Speaker 4: self sufficient in electricity. They're heading the same route as Island.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, it's got the second heaviest electacity builds
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  Speaker 4: in Europe because they rely on wind and gas now
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  Speaker 4: that seems to be WA's plan. It's not a functional plan.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Now let's talk about the ABC.
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  Speaker 2: The new chair, Kim Williams has given an impassioned speech
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  Speaker 2: about the importance of the public broadcast and the threats
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  Speaker 2: face from social media and artificial intelligence, and Nick, you
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  Speaker 2: won't be surprised he wants a funding boost.
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  Speaker 3: What did you make of his speech?
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  Speaker 4: Is classic public service, isn't it. We're going to have
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  Speaker 4: a review into the effectiveness of X or y organization,
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  Speaker 4: in this case the National Broadcaster, but we're going to
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  Speaker 4: need more money. I mean, don't you actually don't you
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  Speaker 4: actually make that decision when you've looked at the effectiveness
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  Speaker 4: where you look at whether whether it is value for
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  Speaker 4: money first before you just say well we're going to
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  Speaker 4: have to put more money into it. And they're just
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  Speaker 4: so featherbedied at the ABC. I've got some experiences as
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  Speaker 4: you have. I mean, I'm standing here in the middle
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  Speaker 4: of Hungary on a shoe string because you can do
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  Speaker 4: it these days. Television is getting cheaper, not more expensive,
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  Speaker 4: So you know, this is just a you know, what
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  Speaker 4: looks like a sensible thing. Let's actually look about what
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  Speaker 4: we value. We get from the ABC just turned into
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  Speaker 4: a money grab Nick, You're right.
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  Speaker 3: They don't exist in the real world. Every other media organization.
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  Speaker 2: Has had to tighten their belts, but not the ABC.
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  Speaker 2: That billion dollar and your budget just keeps going up
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  Speaker 2: and up. Now, let's talk about the NDIS. You want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about budget blowouts. A self described non binary,
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  Speaker 2: disabled and mentally ill NDIS claimant has revealed some of
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  Speaker 2: his grievances about the funding that he's receiving through the NDIS.
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  Speaker 2: He complains that it won't cover a dishwasher or a dryer,
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  Speaker 2: but the NDIS is happy to pay for people to
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  Speaker 2: come to his residence to do his laundry and washing.
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  Speaker 3: Have a look.
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  Speaker 6: The NDIS is so happy to pay like one hundreds,
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  Speaker 6: like four or five, six hundred dollars a week for
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  Speaker 6: you to have a support worker to come in to
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  Speaker 6: help you do your dishes and do your laundry, but
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  Speaker 6: they will not fund a dryer or a dishwasher, which
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  Speaker 6: is cheaper in the long run and also promotes independence
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  Speaker 6: for the participant because then they don't have to rely
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  Speaker 6: on support workers coming to their house and helping them
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  Speaker 6: do their dishes. They just have a dishwasher that they
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  Speaker 6: can start themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Nick, He's got a point there.
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  Speaker 2: The waste and misuse of public money in the NDIS
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  Speaker 2: is out of control. It's out of control by billions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars. But that's just a small case for one
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  Speaker 2: individual of what they're doing, and it's not even what
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  Speaker 2: the client there wants. You'd rather have a dishwasher so
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  Speaker 2: he can do his own dishes, but they send someone
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  Speaker 2: to his house to do the dishes for him, which.
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  Speaker 3: Costs us a lot of money.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, well less, it's where the NDIS has completely
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  Speaker 4: gone off purpose. I mean, I know two NDIS cases,
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  Speaker 4: and I know how these cares work. What they should
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  Speaker 4: be doing is going in and teaching the person self sufficient,
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  Speaker 4: you know, show them how to wash dishes. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this guy can operate TikTok for goodness sake, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty certain he can wash his own dishes. So
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's what they should be doing. But instead
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  Speaker 4: it's like extended child minding on the taxpayer's bill. And
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  Speaker 4: the people that provide these services, of course, they have
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  Speaker 4: no interest in making improving anybody's condition and making them
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  Speaker 4: more able, because that will take the money away. From
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  Speaker 4: going and servicing their disability. The whole system is the
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  Speaker 4: topsy turvy and badly thought out. Frankly, I think the
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  Speaker 4: only way to do it is to abolish it and
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  Speaker 4: start again, but I don't think that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: What I would like to see is is more action
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  Speaker 4: from Bill Shorten on this, the Labor government really stepping
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  Speaker 4: in to fix up the system that it produced, which
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  Speaker 4: is just badly off.
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  Speaker 2: Beam Kita, thank you so much for your time. Joining
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  Speaker 2: me now, fresh from his triumph at the Monk debate
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  Speaker 2: on anti Zionism, is the great Douglas Murray, author of
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  Speaker 2: best selling works, including his latest.
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  Speaker 3: The War on the West.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to the debate Douglas and whether anti Zionism
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  Speaker 2: is synonymous with anti Semitism, but first let's start in
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  Speaker 2: the UK. With the latest UGUF poll showing Labor on
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  Speaker 2: course for the biggest landslide in one hundred years, The
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  Speaker 2: Times reports Labor is on track to win the biggest
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  Speaker 2: majority of any party in a century. With the Toy's
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  Speaker 2: hemorrhaging support to Nigel Faraja's reform and the Liberal Democrats,
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  Speaker 2: one can understand why the British public is thoroughly sick
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  Speaker 2: of the Tories and they're broken promises. But what sort
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  Speaker 2: of UK are we going to see under Labor, which
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  Speaker 2: is hardly a moderate or centrist party nowadays.
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  Speaker 7: Well it's a very interesting question. The answer is really
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  Speaker 7: nobody knows, rita because the Labor Party, the leadership has
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  Speaker 7: been fantastically good in recent months of not telling us
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  Speaker 7: really anything that it's planning to do. It's doing the
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  Speaker 7: usual thing of saying that they're going to put the
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  Speaker 7: NHS and pour more money into it, they're going to
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  Speaker 7: make schools even better than they are, they're going to
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  Speaker 7: raise everyone as living standards and all the usual things.
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  Speaker 7: And as I always say, these things are pointless to
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  Speaker 7: say unless anyone says the opposite. Nobody says that we
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  Speaker 7: would like to lower living standards. Nobody says we'd like
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  Speaker 7: to make education worse. This is the kind of pabulum
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  Speaker 7: we all have to tolerate in election season.
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  Speaker 3: But the really.
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  Speaker 7: Interesting thing is, of course, is that the Labor Party
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  Speaker 7: has been wise enough not to tell us how it's
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  Speaker 7: going to pay for any of this, and that's because
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  Speaker 7: there's really only one way they will be able to
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  Speaker 7: pay for it, which is to raise taxes, and they
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  Speaker 7: know that you cannot say in your manifesto that's why
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  Speaker 7: we're going to have to raise taxes. So all they're
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  Speaker 7: doing is waiting until they are in office and then
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  Speaker 7: we'll discover what they really intend to do. It's a
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  Speaker 7: pretty shocking situation actually, I mean the Tories only have
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  Speaker 7: themselves to blame, as you say, but they're hemorrhaging votes
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  Speaker 7: in every direction. So Conservative voters will be voting for
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  Speaker 7: the more moderate than Jeremy Corbyn Labor Party, Others will
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  Speaker 7: be staying at home. Others will be voting for the
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  Speaker 7: Liberal Democrats because they can always sponge votes off other people,
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  Speaker 7: because they're even more of a Blair as a party
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  Speaker 7: than Labor is trying to be. And of course they're
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  Speaker 7: losing votes to Nigel Farage's Reform. It's an absolute cluster
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  Speaker 7: for the Conservatives and a couple of polls this week
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  Speaker 7: show them actually getting behind Nigel Farage's Reform Party in
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  Speaker 7: the polls. And as you say, I mean not only
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  Speaker 7: wipe out for the Conservative Party, but such a historic
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  Speaker 7: majority for any party, let alone the Labor Party that
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  Speaker 7: basically kers Starm will be able to do whatever he
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  Speaker 7: wants in the next five years.
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  Speaker 2: Labor from the top down over the recent years have
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  Speaker 2: embraced just about every new Marxist folly, from taking new
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  Speaker 2: for BLM remember that, to pushing the most extremes of transactivism.
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  Speaker 2: But kiss Starmer has suddenly discovered the startling news that
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  Speaker 2: men have a penis and women have a vagina.
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  Speaker 3: It is a.
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  Speaker 2: Departure from what he has said in the recent past. Indeed,
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  Speaker 2: he is performing quite a few backflips in this area.
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  Speaker 1: Let's have a look, Well, a woman can have a penis.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I don't think we can conduct this debate
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  Speaker 1: with you know, trans rights are human rights, and I
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  Speaker 1: support the rights of self identification. I think we need
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  Speaker 1: to respect the right to self identified and we're committed
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  Speaker 1: to updating the GRA to introduce self declaration for trans people.
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  Speaker 1: We don't think that self identification is the right way forward.
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  Speaker 4: Is it transphobic to say only women have a cervix?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it is something that shouldn't be said. It is
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  Speaker 1: not right.
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  Speaker 3: Is it right?
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  Speaker 2: Or is it wrong for Rosie Duffield to say only
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  Speaker 2: women have a cervix?
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, biologically, she of course is right, right.
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  Speaker 3: It's extraordinary.
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  Speaker 2: Douglas that a man who is in his sixties now
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  Speaker 2: has such a fluid value system. One minute something is
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  Speaker 2: harmful and transphobic, next minute his habit disagreement from the rooftops.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I mean it's also quite alarming just for any
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  Speaker 7: man to get in his sixties and discover that men
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  Speaker 7: have penises and women. Don't you wonder what he's done
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  Speaker 7: with his life? But no, of course this is all
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  Speaker 7: just this. I mean, it's so pathetic watching him wriggle
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  Speaker 7: like that. He failed to stand up for his very
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  Speaker 7: brave female MP Rosy Duffield when she simply stated biological fact.
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  Speaker 7: He spent a long time doing exactly what we saw
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  Speaker 7: him do in one of those interviews, which is, well,
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  Speaker 7: it might be true, but we shouldn't say it as
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  Speaker 7: if as if facts the sort of offensive and always
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  Speaker 7: always is dancing. It reminds me of the sort of
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  Speaker 7: the religious wars of the fourteen and fifteen hundreds, when
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  Speaker 7: people were sort of forced to say things or forced
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  Speaker 7: to denounce things even if they believed them. And it's
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  Speaker 7: like that, why doesn't this man, if he wants to
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  Speaker 7: be a leader, why doesn't he just have the courage
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  Speaker 7: to say what everyone knows is true and say, of
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  Speaker 7: course it doesn't need to mean, doesn't mean we need
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  Speaker 7: to be unpleasant or mean or anything like that to
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  Speaker 7: anyone who believes that they're born in the wrong body.
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  Speaker 7: But that doesn't mean that facts aren't facts. It's perfectly straightforward,
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  Speaker 7: and it's very telling about him because, as I've written before,
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  Speaker 7: the problem with it isn't isn't this issue itself, only
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  Speaker 7: it's that anyone who's going to be blown by a
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  Speaker 7: cultural wind that way, which wasn't the case merely seven
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  Speaker 7: or eight years ago, the next cultural wind will blow
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  Speaker 7: them again and again and again. And who knows which
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  Speaker 7: winds will blow in the next or ten years whilst
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  Speaker 7: Kirstalmer's Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the problem, it seems both sides of politics,
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  Speaker 2: the Tories as well, there's just no conviction there. These
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  Speaker 2: these politicians just look at what the latest focus groups
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  Speaker 2: tell them and suddenly their positions have changed. And with
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  Speaker 2: much of the left though, one thing you can count
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  Speaker 2: on is this loathing for the West, particularly their own
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  Speaker 2: history and sometimes their own people.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to have you to have a look at.
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  Speaker 2: This tweet from someone who's going to be a labor
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  Speaker 2: front bench of probably Jess Phillips mocking a guy for
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  Speaker 2: wearing the Saint George flag as a cape. Of course
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  Speaker 2: England were playing. The football team was playing, so that's
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  Speaker 2: what that guy was doing, supporting the teams. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think Jugglas you would ever do that, mock someone for
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  Speaker 2: having a Palestinian flag draped around their neck.
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  Speaker 3: But if it's a.
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  Speaker 2: British in Balden, they feel emboldened to shame someone on
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  Speaker 2: social media.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean this is I mean you mentioned
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  Speaker 7: earlier Rita. They know that they listen to focus groups.
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  Speaker 7: Would that the politicians did listen to focus groups. They don't.
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  Speaker 7: They listen to a few deranged herodins on their own
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  Speaker 7: side most of the time screaming banshees from the culture
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  Speaker 7: wars online and the real public. The normal public won't
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  Speaker 7: have nothing to do with that nonsense, you know, and
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  Speaker 7: the normal public believe quite rightly in Britain like elsewhere,
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  Speaker 7: that you know, if your national team is playing, you know,
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  Speaker 7: that's the team you support, and your national flag, you know,
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  Speaker 7: might be your flag you're able to fly and even
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  Speaker 7: be proud of. But as you say, Reta, we live
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  Speaker 7: in a strange era in the West, where you can
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  Speaker 7: be proud of everything apart from what is yours any
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  Speaker 7: other flag. Jess Phillips, who's another example of us just
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  Speaker 7: sort of swayed by the wind. Every gust that blows
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  Speaker 7: takes Jess Phillips with it. She likes to present herself
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  Speaker 7: as this, you know, working class, straight talking woman she is,
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  Speaker 7: and she's an absolutely typical automatum of the era who
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  Speaker 7: says whatever she thinks she has to say to get
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  Speaker 7: avoiding the Bansheese that are howling. And yes, I mean
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  Speaker 7: there's this sort of snobbery about this, and there's nothing
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  Speaker 7: wrong with being proud of your national flag. But as
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  Speaker 7: you know, it's only in the West that we beat
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  Speaker 7: ourselves up like this and tolerate politicians who scorn the
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  Speaker 7: public for being proud of their country.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you were involved in the Monk debate in Toronto
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  Speaker 2: where you argued that anti Zionism is anti Semitism. Two
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  Speaker 2: thirds of the audience gave you an emphatic victory. And
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  Speaker 2: let's have a look at a clipper. I think we
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  Speaker 2: can see why you won the debate.
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  Speaker 7: And there is no law of war that says you're
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  Speaker 7: allowed to start a war. And then complain when you
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  Speaker 7: lose it, and if made cares about the Palestinian casualties,
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  Speaker 7: as I'm sure he does, then tell your bosses in
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  Speaker 7: Qatar to tell their friends in Gaza to stop the
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  Speaker 7: war and give back the hostages.
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  Speaker 2: Douglas, tell me why you believe anti Zionism is anti Semitism.
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  Speaker 7: I say it's obvious that in all of history, anti
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  Speaker 7: Semitism has been a shape shifting virus. Sometimes people hated
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  Speaker 7: the Jews for their race, sometimes they hated them for
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  Speaker 7: their religion. In this era, people are the only permissible
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  Speaker 7: way to hate the Jews is to hate them for
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  Speaker 7: having a state. And as I mentioned in the debate,
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  Speaker 7: this absolute obsession with the single Jewish state in the world,
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: This way in which people who never turned out on
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: the streets when Bashah Lasad was killing six tin was
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: the number of people who've died in every war involving
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: Israel since nineteen forty eight when the Arab armies advanced.
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: If you didn't come out on the streets when bashan
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: Assad killed six times that number of people in a decade,
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: but you did turn out to attack Israel after October
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: the seventh, you're an anti Semite. And there are many,
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: many other examples this. I gave examples in Canada, in
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: the city I was in Toronto Synagogue's fire bomb, Jewish schools,
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: shot at a Muslim mob going through a Jewish area
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: screaming about these Zionist rats and pigs. And this is
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: just anti Semitism and it's the only form of And
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: as I said, this doesn't mean that everyone who is
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: anti Zionist knows they're an anti Semite. Plenty of them
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: are just incredibly ignorant and drinking from wells they don't understand.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: But a lot of them, and I think maybe Hassan
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: is one of them, know exactly what they're doing. And
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: it was a pretty vicious evening. Natasha Hausdorff, great British barrister,
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: was on my side, and I think we convincingly won
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: the hall, but we were against, you know, some pretty
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: unpleasant opposition. And one of them I was referring to
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: there Maidi Hassan of Al Jazeera. He presents himself as
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: caring about the Palestinian peoples. His bosses in Doha are
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: one of the major supporters of Hamas and have the
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: Hamas leadership living in Doha. Beside al Jazeera's headquarters, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: as I mentioned a bit later in the debate, you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: Maydi Hassan and his fellow alleged humanitarians, they pretend they
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: care about the Palestinian people, and really I think they
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: just want to beat up on the Jewish state and eradicated.
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: I think most of the anti Zionists this era, that's
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: really what they're after, the after the eradication of the
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: Jewish state. But I mentioned him, you know, it'd come
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: a lot better coming out of his mouth. It would
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: sound a lot better if a contributor to Al Jazeera
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: hadn't have been discovered last week to have been holding
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: Jewish hostages in his home in Gaza and torturing them,
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: one of a number of Al Jazeera journalists, as it happens,
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: who have been found to be terrorists in recent years
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: in Gaza. I think it's absolutely despicable that people pass
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: themselves off as caring about the Palestinian peoples, and they
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: are all of these people working at Al Jazeera who
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: actually involved not just in killing Jews, but in causing
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: the war that has led to the suffering of Palestinians.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: It's absolute hypocrisy and I'm very glad that the audience
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: in Toronto realized that, and you.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Can watch that full debate online. I would encourage you
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: to do that. It is a very informative exercise. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: he also made the excellent point there we actually have
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: a real genocide happening in Sudan, and it seems to
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: be people aren't too interested in taking to the streets
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: of Melbourne and Sydney and London and New York and
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: elsewhere to protest against that, but they will protest against
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Israel after October seven. And if you're part of that mob,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: perhaps examine if you are indeed anti Semitic.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: And I have to take you back to Kirs.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Starmer here because his response to the rise of anti
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Semitism is to be seems to be to speak more
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: about the dangers of Islamophobia. Here he is with London
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: met Sadik Khan doing just that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: One of the things that is coming up over and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: over again is Islamophobia. And when you can see the stats,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you can see the numbers rise in particularly since October
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the seventh. Although we shouldn't fall into the trap of
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: thinking that before October the seventh, this was all heading
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: in the right direction. It's been far too high for
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: far too long. Clearly we need to just say over
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and over again, Islamophobia is intolerable. It can never ever
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: be justified, and we have to continue with the zero
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: tolerance approach. And I think there's more can do in government,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the certainly stuff online which I think needs tackling much
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: more robustly than it is at the moment.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Here you go, Douglas.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: We can look forward to more online censorship and campaigns
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: to silence criticism that is a deemed islamophobic under labor.
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would just like to put to Kissed Arma
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: what he would do about something like that attack I
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: just referred to in Toronto the other week, the last week.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: If a Muslim mob shouting alo akhba and shouting about
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: the dirty pigs and rats in the Jewish neighborhood, if
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: anyone criticizes that, is it is lamophobic or not? Is
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: it possible to call out Islamic anti semitism or would
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: it be islamophobic? He and the other people pushing this
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: have to be able to answer that question. Is it
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: is lamophobic to notice that the marches that have defile
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: the center of London week after week since October a predominantly,
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: very largely Muslim and that many of the Muslims on
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: those marches are saying intolerably racist things islamophobic to point
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: that out. They're going to have to work this out
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: because if they don't, it's just going to be a
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: huge and colossal circular firing squad for the coming years.
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: Metaphorically speaking for now, and the lack of thought that
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: people like Stam have put into this, the pandering to
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: communities is I think a recipe for absolute disaster. You
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: can stand up for the rights of all of your
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: citizens to be able to live in peace, but that
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: means standing up to hatred wherever it comes from of
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: the most extreme kinds, and kir Starmer would find it easy,
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: I'm sure, like all of us, to stand up to
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: any actual far right extremism. Can he stand up to
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: these I make extremists. We'll see.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Now before you go overnight.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: We saw the climate cultists of just Stop Oil attack Stonehenge.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Their demented demands include Britain's next government committing legally to
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: phasing out fossil fuels by twenty thirty. Let's have a
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: quick look. We can see their bystandards. Women getting involved
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: trying to stop that attack. What sort of punishment is
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: appropriate when political activists attack and vandalize a prehistoric monument.
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: You know, this has been an escalation. I write about
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: this in my Spectator column this week. There's been an
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: escalation of this for some time now. All of these
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: eco loons thought that it was okay to throw suit
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: at a masterpiece by Van Goch. Earlier this year, a
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: horrible young woman slashed and sprayed a graffiti over portrait
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: by the great Hungarian Jewish painter Philip d'laslow, and there'd
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: been no punishment of her because she said she did
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: it for Palestine.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: Right, And now we see these ekoloons attacking one of
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: Britain's most important archaeological sites. It really tells you everything
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: you need to know about a movement when in order
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: to save the planet, as they pretend they want to do,
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: they destroy the planet. I don't believe these people are
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: driven by anything other than narcissism, boredom, extremism, and a
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: couple of other such things. They are vicious narcissists, and
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: they're desperately seeking for some kind of cause, and they
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: are trashing our history, and they're trashing our our holy
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: places and our places of learning and culture, and they're
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: getting away with it. And as far as I believe,
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: I think they should all be thrown in prison for
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: as long as it can be, and any of these
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: other people who want to try these tricks should go
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: to prison following them.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: We need just the law to be enforced in one
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: of these cases, and I think we would see a
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: change in behavior. Douglas Murray, thank you so much for
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: your time, this.
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: Evening pleasure as always.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Thank you still to come.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Lefties Losing It and Kosher Gaeta on why the access
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: of evil is becoming stronger.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Now it's time for lefties losing it and it's time.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Again to check on the leader of the free world.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Thanks to all the matters of Congress and Homewood Security Secretary.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's fine, he's fine. Nothing to see there.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Any talk of cognitive decline is just a right wing conspiracy.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Do not believe your lying eyes.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Now to Democrat congresswoman and Squad member Corey Bush is
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: something else, not just say far left tippogrid, but she
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: has magical powers. She can make tumors disappear with her
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: mere touch.
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: And this lady came to us and she had these tumors.
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: I mean, she wanted us to feel them, and I
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: just remember I put my hand on her, and my
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: hand just began to move and the lumps that were
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: there were no longer there. And she was so happy,
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: and she went on about her day and I never
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: saw her again.
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: So you think the tumors disappeared.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: I do.
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: And this woman was unhoused. She's someone who you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: had been sleeping in the shelters and sleeping on the street.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't know what's worse, the insane claims of
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: that lefty or the manner in which the PBS journalist
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Margaret Hoover uncritically accepts this lunacy and respectfully asks some
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: follow up questions.
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: As a trained nurse, you're a member of the medical community,
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: how do you think about those spiritual healings versus medical healings?
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, spiritual healing is a part of what you believe,
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: you know, and the medical healing is it's a similar thing.
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: What do you say to people who are likely to
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: disbelieve that story?
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: You know, they're not the women that had the tools.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Now, imagine all the interviewer's reaction and the media's reaction
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: would have been if a Republican had made such claims.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Time to look at a young woman who comes to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: the realization that she has a striking resemblance to Tucker Carlson,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: but she remains steadfastly in denial about just how strong
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: that resemblance is.
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: This is adorable, being a well established gay I never
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: imagined myself on the side of TikTok that thinks I
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: look like Tucker Carlson, But here we are, and I
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: gotta be honest. I know of this man, but I
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: could not pick him out of Elena. So I'm gonna
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: google him and we're gonna see if you guys are
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: onto something or not.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: What this man?
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: Is it?
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: The twinning forehead wrinkles?
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, is it the teeth?
• 30:46
  Speaker 11: I can see it in the teeth a little bit,
• 30:47
  Speaker 11: but that's really it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Denial.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Ain't just a river in Egypt, lady, You are the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: spitting image of Tucker.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: How are you not seeing it?
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Time now to check in on the Gaze four Palestine movement,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: who still haven't worked out that their activism is not
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: just suicidally stupid but offensive to many Palestinians. There are
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: no pride rallies in Gaza, Palestine. Now to a transactivist
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: who is dressed up as Miss Rachel, who is a
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: toddler content creator, and he has this message for the
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: young uns.
• 31:41
  Speaker 13: Hi friends. Today we're going to talk about something super important,
• 31:46
  Speaker 13: what it means to be transgender. It's a big word,
• 31:50
  Speaker 13: but I promise that it's easy to understand.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Ready to learn.
• 31:53
  Speaker 13: The first thing I want you to do is close
• 31:55
  Speaker 13: your eyes. Now think do you feel like a boy,
• 31:59
  Speaker 13: a girl, or a little bit of both? Do you
• 32:03
  Speaker 13: have your answer? Great? Now, I want you to imagine
• 32:06
  Speaker 13: that everyone keeps telling you that you're something else, even
• 32:10
  Speaker 13: though in your heart you know who you are. Wouldn't
• 32:13
  Speaker 13: that make you sad inside? People who feel like this
• 32:16
  Speaker 13: are transgender?
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Just a reminder.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: The creator he's dressed up as the one who is imitating,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: has a preschool audience toddlers and kids around.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Four to five years of age.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Can we just leave them alone to be kids and
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: not indoctrinate them with radical gender theory?
• 32:37
  Speaker 13: Apparently not one day you noticed that theo starts wearing
• 32:41
  Speaker 13: girl clothes instead of boy clothes, and then they tell
• 32:44
  Speaker 13: you that they want to be called Luna instead of THEO.
• 32:48
  Speaker 13: This is so exciting for our friend Luna because they
• 32:51
  Speaker 13: finally get to be their true self. And if you
• 32:54
  Speaker 13: accidentally call Luna by their old name, make sure to
• 32:57
  Speaker 13: say a big sorry and that you'll do better next time.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Now, we see a lot of filth, dangerous disinformation, and
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: indoctrination on TikTok, and the CCP aligned owners are quite
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: happy for that content to be on their site. So
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: what video was so terrible, so violent or harmful that
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: TikTok banded for violating community guidelines? Brace yourself, folks, because
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I'm going to play it for you.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: If you think girls and women's equality matter, stand up.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: If girls and women's sports matter and you want your
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: daughters to have the same opportunity you had, stand up.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: If you know that it isn't.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Fair or see to allow males to compete in girls
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: sports because it's well obvious, stand up.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Don't be called by people who call you a bigot.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: You're not a big.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Don't let men tell us how to be good girls.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Don't let others tell you you just need to be quiet,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: sit down, be nice.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: It's not nice to further.
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: Alive it's not mean to believe in women to quality.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: We deserve our own sports, privacy, fairness, see few.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: We deserve a chance to compete and win.
• 34:10
  Speaker 10: So don't be nice, don't be character be honest, be brief,
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: fight for women.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: We've come too far to give up now.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: And if you agree with that, stand up and stand
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: with us.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: That was a commercial for xx X Y Athletics. They
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: say they're the only athletic brand that stands up for
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: women's sport. But young girls speaking about keeping malbodies out.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Of their sport is apparently too much for TikTok.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Kosher Gata Kosher.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Why would TikTok ban that ad? Why would they deem
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: it a breach of the community guidelines?
• 34:50
  Speaker 12: Such a great flashpoint about this moment where we are
• 34:54
  Speaker 12: in the culture right now. I know in this case
• 34:55
  Speaker 12: had happened to be TikTok, as we know most of
• 34:58
  Speaker 12: all the other platforms are not infallible, from the COVID
• 35:02
  Speaker 12: fiasco to Hunter Biden's laptop and the rest of it.
• 35:04
  Speaker 12: All sorts of things it shouldn't be banned are banned,
• 35:06
  Speaker 12: with the exception of maybe Twitter. After Musk acquired it,
• 35:09
  Speaker 12: and I would say TikTok's loss is Twitter's gained because
• 35:12
  Speaker 12: all sorts of people are retweeting this at over there
• 35:14
  Speaker 12: and the founder of this clothing line who started it,
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: I think earlier this year as a slap back on
• 35:20
  Speaker 12: this whole cultural issue that we're dealing with, the trans thing.
• 35:25
  Speaker 12: We'll get a lot of airplay and retweets from it,
• 35:27
  Speaker 12: hopefully outside of TikTok. I think the whole world is
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: just in these two buckets right now, and this issue
• 35:32
  Speaker 12: is coming to a head. Where there's the bucket of
• 35:35
  Speaker 12: people that are continuing to propagate this agenda and Title
• 35:38
  Speaker 12: nine has been repealed, and all the cowards that don't
• 35:40
  Speaker 12: speak up, and then you've got the other bucket with
• 35:42
  Speaker 12: the JK. Rowlings and Megan Kelly's and Riley Gaineses of
• 35:45
  Speaker 12: the world.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: And we'll see where it owns well.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: The in one bucket, you've got the majority, it seems,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: of the population, and then the other you've got all
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: the influence, You've got the celebrity world, you've got most
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: of the media, you've got the institutions, And that's where
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I think this is going to really come to a head.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Now Russian President Vladimir Putin is in North Korea and
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: he has gifted despot leader Kim Jong un a Russian
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: made limousine. He's also given him a dagger and a
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: tea set, a wide variety of gifts there. Kim is
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: apparently a massive car enthusiast and was beaming as he
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: jumped in behind the wheel, and he had Putin sitting
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: there in the passenger seat.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Kim has also had gifts for Putin.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Including artwork. Now to the series Matches Kosher. We have
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: seen Russia, North Korea, Iran, the entire access of evil
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: become emboldened in recent years. And how much of that
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: can you blame on the Biden administration and its weakness
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: And often it's just incoherent positions.
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: I think it's a big part of it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: And many people, including the many Trump heaters, knowledge that
• 37:00
  Speaker 12: nothing happened in the previous four years, and it's not
• 37:03
  Speaker 12: hard to conceive that it probably wouldn't have happened. They've
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: seen the weakness of the current leadership, they saw how
• 37:09
  Speaker 12: the withdrawal from Afghanistan went. All those things play into
• 37:12
  Speaker 12: the calculus of these countries and leaders for sure. But
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: I also think it is bigger than Biden and the
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: current administration, where all of these things are predictable consequences,
• 37:20
  Speaker 12: tough as they may be, from foreign policy for thirty
• 37:23
  Speaker 12: to forty years of just how things have been going,
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: and if with the West, you know, with NATO's expansion
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: and then Russia getting embolded and taking over Crimea before
• 37:32
  Speaker 12: and now this, you are going to see these kinds
• 37:34
  Speaker 12: of maneuvers happen. And the more we continue along the
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: current course, it's not surprising to see these other alliances forming.
• 37:40
  Speaker 12: And then I think the car and the dagger and
• 37:42
  Speaker 12: all that is just stagecraft, and it feels almost like
• 37:44
  Speaker 12: Putin is kind of trolling the world a little bit
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: by doing that and saying, hey, I've got moves up
• 37:49
  Speaker 12: my sleeve too. Here's one.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've effectively buying off a leader with a
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: tasset and I don't know it also gave you my limousine.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: But these two have entity to a new agreement.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: North Korean state media is reporting that this new agreement
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: between Russia and North Korea requires both countries to use
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: all available means to provide immediate military.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Assistance in the event of a war. Now that is
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: a worry.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: If that is accurate, then Russia is obliged with its
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: nuclear weapons to come to the aid of North Korea
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: and vice versa.
• 38:28
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the serious stuff. And many see that North
• 38:30
  Speaker 12: Korea in some ways is a proxy state of China unofficially,
• 38:33
  Speaker 12: and so this move is really a proxy to the
• 38:36
  Speaker 12: other move of them getting closer. And we see that
• 38:38
  Speaker 12: economically and militarily. Even the officially China's position has been
• 38:42
  Speaker 12: the sort of non intervention and not taking aside in
• 38:45
  Speaker 12: this conflict. You will see more of that, and that's
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: sort of the point about the expected consequences, and we
• 38:50
  Speaker 12: would hope that Western leadership is aware of all those
• 38:53
  Speaker 12: moves and countermoves and is factoring that in. But unfortunately,
• 38:55
  Speaker 12: I think a lot of people don't have faith that
• 38:57
  Speaker 12: that's necessarily the case either.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Russians say they're waiting on a response from the Biden
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: administration for a possible prisoner exchange, which could see US
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: citizens detained in Russia, including Wall Street journal reporter Evan
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: gershakovicha come back to their home countries. Russian prosecutors just
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: last week approved an indictment accusing the journalist of ESPN
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: R j claimed that he the Wall Street Journal, the
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: government vehemently deny what is holding up this process?
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Kosher?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Are the Russian demands likely to be so outrageous that
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the White House can't accept them?
• 39:38
  Speaker 12: It's a great question. This is I think I'm going
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: to bring this to a head as well about how
• 39:43
  Speaker 12: much of a concession is a fair concession. And there's
• 39:46
  Speaker 12: so much of a disconnect and lack of consensus domestically
• 39:49
  Speaker 12: within the US around this. So you know, if there's
• 39:52
  Speaker 12: a we don't know obviously all the machinesians and what
• 39:54
  Speaker 12: the ask is behind the scenes, but if Putn is
• 39:57
  Speaker 12: linking it to some sort of agreement of a piece
• 40:00
  Speaker 12: settlement with Ukraine, which would include Ukraine seeding some territory
• 40:05
  Speaker 12: to Russia, that's going to be an issue because domestically
• 40:08
  Speaker 12: there's absolutely not alignment on that. There are those who
• 40:10
  Speaker 12: say that's real life and you've got to accept it
• 40:12
  Speaker 12: and move on and end this war, and there are
• 40:14
  Speaker 12: those who say, absolutely not, We're not going to sede
• 40:15
  Speaker 12: to that. And unfortunately, this hosted situation and Evan sadly
• 40:19
  Speaker 12: becomes I don't want to say a pond, but sort
• 40:21
  Speaker 12: of a pond in that chessboard. And that's just the real,
• 40:24
  Speaker 12: hrsh unfortunate reality.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Of it, because the White House has been willing to
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: be generous, if you could say, they've released monstrous mass
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: killers in these prisoner exchanges, so they have been willing
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: to release people they really shouldn't release to get their
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: citizens back. But it'll be interesting to see how these results.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Let's hope Evan is back home soon. Koshigata, thank you
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: so much for your time. Pleasure still to come, Kinseys
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: goof with the latest world and celebrity news, including Megan
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Markle getting a harsh chair welcome back. Joining me now
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: is Royal and entertainment reporter Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, let's talk
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: about this new biography looking into the Beckhams, and it
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: makes claims about Meghan Markle deluding herself into thinking she
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: was of a higher social rank than the famous couple
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: and was irritated to learn the truth. She even asked
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Victoria Beckham to give her free bags and shoes with
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: their relationship now frosty, despite the fact that the Beckhams
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: did attend the royal wedding.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: What more can you tell me about this?
• 41:46
  Speaker 14: Oh my gosh, And this is Tom Bauer, who's such
• 41:48
  Speaker 14: an incredible author, wrote Revenge, that amazing Harry and Meghan book,
• 41:53
  Speaker 14: where in that book he specifically says Harry accues David Beckham.
• 41:58
  Speaker 14: He said, is Victory leaking stories about Megan? How are
• 42:02
  Speaker 14: people finding out where Megan Markle is getting.
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: Her hair done?
• 42:05
  Speaker 14: And it turned out it wasn't Victoria leaking stories, it
• 42:09
  Speaker 14: was the girl at the front desk at the hair salon,
• 42:12
  Speaker 14: and when that created this huge rift between the couple.
• 42:15
  Speaker 14: And now Bower's going even further and saying that Megan
• 42:19
  Speaker 14: had an attitude towards posh because she felt like there
• 42:22
  Speaker 14: was a hierarchy. She was marrying a prince, and the
• 42:25
  Speaker 14: reality was that David and Victoria are incredibly important because financially,
• 42:31
  Speaker 14: these two have created a nice nest egg for themselves.
• 42:34
  Speaker 14: They're both entrepreneurs, they both keep very busy, and they
• 42:38
  Speaker 14: actually do a lot of work, which is something that
• 42:40
  Speaker 14: you and I both know Meghan is not familiar with.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: That is very true.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Now, Kevin Kolsna has revealed that Prince William once told
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: him that his mom, Princess Diana, of course fancied the actor.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Apparently he had met Diana to discuss co starring in
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a never made seek cool to his nineteen ninety two
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: hit The Bodyguard, and that that would have been some
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: film if it featured Diana. My gosh, that is a
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: cute story.
• 43:11
  Speaker 14: It is, but it actually started out with a little
• 43:13
  Speaker 14: bit of tension because he tells Howard Stern in this
• 43:16
  Speaker 14: interview that the Royal family accused him of lying and
• 43:19
  Speaker 14: he felt attacked by the men in gray suits. So
• 43:22
  Speaker 14: he actually picked up the phone and.
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: Called Fergie, the Duchess of York, and said, help me out.
• 43:27
  Speaker 14: Who do I contact? They're calling me a liar. I
• 43:29
  Speaker 14: don't like the negative attention. So he felt a bit
• 43:31
  Speaker 14: attacked by the Royal family, and then Prince William reached
• 43:34
  Speaker 14: out to meet him when he was at school and said,
• 43:36
  Speaker 14: you know, my mom had a little bit of a
• 43:38
  Speaker 14: crush on you, which smoothed everything over. But get in line,
• 43:41
  Speaker 14: Princess Diana. Kevin Costner is still a hunk.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Never been my type, but good for you, Kinsey to
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: talk about justin Timberlake.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: He's had a bit of a rough patch.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I've had some of his dance moves being why mocked
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: on social media, saying he dances like a dad these days.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: And now his mug shot has been beamed across the
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: world after he was arrested for drink driving in the Hamptons.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Just how drunk was he because the reports that he
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: was wasted.
• 44:20
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, that's a good question, and his attorney
• 44:23
  Speaker 14: is saying that he's going to fight this. He refused
• 44:25
  Speaker 14: to take a breathalyzer test, but he did have to,
• 44:28
  Speaker 14: you know, walk the line. But you're absolutely right about
• 44:31
  Speaker 14: him struggling. His concert sales have been kind of in
• 44:34
  Speaker 14: the dumps lately. We're assuming that is based on the
• 44:38
  Speaker 14: real shift during the me too era of people attacking
• 44:42
  Speaker 14: him for not being taken down a notch. After the
• 44:45
  Speaker 14: Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident, all of the negative attention
• 44:48
  Speaker 14: was on Janet Jackson. Then Brittany came out with all
• 44:50
  Speaker 14: of her revelations in her books, saying that he insisted
• 44:54
  Speaker 14: she have an abortion.
• 44:55
  Speaker 10: He was caught allegedly cheating.
• 44:57
  Speaker 14: In New Orleans with a co star. That did not
• 45:00
  Speaker 14: reflect well on him. And so then he releases this
• 45:04
  Speaker 14: new music. It doesn't do great starts trying to tour,
• 45:06
  Speaker 14: you know, tours not selling very well, and now you're
• 45:09
  Speaker 14: seeing this, I have a lot of sympathy for him.
• 45:13
  Speaker 14: But I also can't I can't understand Gail King going
• 45:16
  Speaker 14: on TV defending somebody driving over the influence. Yes, I
• 45:21
  Speaker 14: loved this guy growing up, but you should never get
• 45:23
  Speaker 14: behind the wheel of a car after consuming alcohol.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, he knows better.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I mean he's not that there's ever an excuse, but
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: he's hardly some dumb teenager.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: That is.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: You'll be interesting to see just how much over he
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: was over the legal limit. Now you're coming to us
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: from London, where you've recently attended Royal Ascot. Prince William
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: was there with his mother in law, Carol Middleton. What
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: is the latest on Princess Catherine and her cancer battle?
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: Absolutely well. I saw Catherine at trooping in line at
• 46:00
  Speaker 10: six am, rain pouring all down on me.
• 46:02
  Speaker 14: I felt like she looked absolutely amazing, and I do
• 46:07
  Speaker 14: just even the way that the children were engaging with
• 46:09
  Speaker 14: each other. It was very uplifting to see that they
• 46:12
  Speaker 14: were in high spirits. It makes you feel like if
• 46:14
  Speaker 14: they're in a good mood, perhaps everything's going well at home.
• 46:18
  Speaker 14: I think this is another great indication that things are improving.
• 46:21
  Speaker 14: For Prince William to show up with his mother and
• 46:24
  Speaker 14: father in law. He was holding Carroll Middleton's hand. It
• 46:28
  Speaker 14: was very beautiful and I just think that maybe we
• 46:31
  Speaker 14: are on the right path, on a good path. We
• 46:33
  Speaker 14: heard from her last week saying she's not in the
• 46:36
  Speaker 14: clear yet, good days and bad days, but we've seen
• 46:39
  Speaker 14: her recently. The kids look like they are, you know,
• 46:42
  Speaker 14: just blissfully joyful. And then to see her mother out
• 46:45
  Speaker 14: and about for the first time since our cancer diagnosis,
• 46:48
  Speaker 14: laughing in good spirits with the family. I really think
• 46:52
  Speaker 14: that this is a good indication of what's going on
• 46:54
  Speaker 14: behind the scenes.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: We missed you earlier in the wake, but we did
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: have a whole thing on Louis because you know, Louise
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: is my favorite royal.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: I want him to be king already.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: And his performance at the trooping was adorable.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: He was just his.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Usual naughty Louis and he was not taking any directions
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: from his mum or his big sister.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Now, this story is going to get people fired up.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: NFL legend Bill Belichick has a new girlfriend who is
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: forty eight years his junior. The former New England Patriots
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: coach he's seventy two now, met his twenty four year
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: old girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, a former cheerleader on a plane
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: he was spotted at a cheerleading competition in Maryland to
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: support her.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Now they're two.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Consenting adult soul admit that, Kinsey, but the age difference,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: he I mean, is there seventy two year old dating
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: a twenty four year old?
• 47:54
  Speaker 14: Ever, Okay, I mean it's like dating not a daughter,
• 47:59
  Speaker 14: but a granddaughter. It's giving Anna Nicole Smith vibes. I mean,
• 48:02
  Speaker 14: good for her if she gets.
• 48:03
  Speaker 10: A ranger over out of it. But it is, isn't it? So?
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: I mean, I can't. I couldn't do this.
• 48:09
  Speaker 14: This feels weird to me, and you know, I feel
• 48:12
  Speaker 14: like both have ulterior motives.
• 48:14
  Speaker 10: I'm not thinking that this.
• 48:16
  Speaker 14: Is love striking either one of them at that opportune moment.
• 48:19
  Speaker 10: It's giving weird vibes.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: It is giving weird vibes.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: But we shouldn't assume it is just motivated by money
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: or fame. It could be daddy is shoes, it could
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: be all sorts of things, Kinsey, I think we're going
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: to have to delve into this a little bit deeper,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: maybe bring in some sort of psychologists to give us
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: some insights. But the age difference here is just astonishing.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I'm all for love is love, but let's just you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: keep it sensible because he is really grandfather h for her,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: that's bizarre. Kinsey's Schofield. It's always a pleasure. Enjoy London
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: and we'll.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Speak to you next week.
• 49:02
  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: That's it from me. Up next is Newsnight.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow for Left is Losing It at
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: nine thirty pm.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Good Night,