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Bill and Gina's Movie Date - Elizabeth Holmes Doc "You Can See Everything" from October 22nd, 2026 · The Radio From Hell Show - Best Of

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  Speaker 1: Now, we're going to talk about the movie You Can
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  Speaker 1: See Everything. We are not going to intend to spoil anything,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm just going to say right now, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to accidentally learn anything about it, if you
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen it for the next 10 minutes or so,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I think we can talk about it without spoiling anything.
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  Speaker 2: Gina and I went to see this movie at the
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  Speaker 2: Broadway Theater yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday? No, two days ago. Two days ago. Wednesday. Wednesday. No, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was Wednesday. It was yesterday. It wasn't yesterday. It
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  Speaker 3: was two days ago. It was Tuesday. It was Tuesday, okay. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: you can see everything.
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  Speaker 2: Let me give you a little synopsis of what it is,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't know. It's an experimental documentary film, I
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  Speaker 2: guess is how you would, directed by Nathan Fielder and
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  Speaker 2: Lance Oppenheim, and it follows Elizabeth Holmes, who is the
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  Speaker 2: founder of the now defunct health technology company Theranos, and
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  Speaker 2: her partner, who becomes her husband, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: No, she's still not married. Billy Evans.
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  Speaker 2: They invited a film crew to document them beginning in
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  Speaker 2: just a few weeks before Holmes began serving a term
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  Speaker 2: in United States federal prison for defrauding investors. The filming
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  Speaker 2: began in 2023, and they didn't complete the movie until
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  Speaker 2: until after she went to prison, several. So the movie
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  Speaker 2: was in process for like three or four years.
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  Speaker 1: And he managed to keep it a secret that he
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  Speaker 1: was even doing it. There were only a handful of
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  Speaker 1: people that knew this was even happening.
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  Speaker 3: They had a very small crew.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's interesting to me or puzzling to me
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  Speaker 2: why Elizabeth Holmes and Billy Evans.
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  Speaker 3: invited them in to do this.
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  Speaker 1: It's not puzzling at all.
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  Speaker 3: I think it is because....
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think they wanted to burnish their images in
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  Speaker 2: certain ways. But if you know anything about Nathan Fielder... Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: why would you call him? Yeah, he's... So it's interesting, they...
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  Speaker 2: Who's the.
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  Speaker 3: Earl Morris.
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  Speaker 2: They were in talks with Earl Morris, who's a legendary
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  Speaker 2: documentary filmmaker... They were in talks with him to do it,
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  Speaker 2: and he wanted to do a balanced he said, she said,
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  Speaker 2: sort of this side is one side and the other side.
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  Speaker 2: And they said, no, we don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want to do it. And those talks broke down.
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  Speaker 1: All I needed to know about this is that a
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  Speaker 1: month before she's going to prison, this is how they
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  Speaker 1: wanted to spend that month.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: With filmmakers... living with them 24-7.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: And in the very beginning of it, you see her
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  Speaker 1: two kids. And my first thought is, these are horrible people.
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  Speaker 1: If you're going to prison for 11 years, and you
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  Speaker 1: have children, and this is how you're spending your time.
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  Speaker 4: They are horrible people.
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  Speaker 3: I will tell you that Billy Evans comes off really bad.
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  Speaker 3: in this movie.
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  Speaker 2: Really bad. And also, it's fascinating. I just made a
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  Speaker 2: couple of notes. First of all, I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: familiar you all are with Nathan Fielder, but a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people don't like his work because he's a very uncomfortable...
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  Speaker 2: He makes people very uncomfortable. He deadpans everything. He asks
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  Speaker 2: very pointed questions in a He can make it weird
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  Speaker 2: really quick. He's kind of off-putting sometimes. I found him
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  Speaker 2: to be very... He examines himself in this movie as
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  Speaker 2: much as he examines her.
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  Speaker 3: That's part of it.
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  Speaker 2: It's really fascinating to see that process. He goes through
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  Speaker 2: a process, a change as well. And I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was great. And then I kept asking myself in this movie,
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  Speaker 2: who is acting and who is not acting in this movie?
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  Speaker 3: Some people are acting and some people are not acting.
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  Speaker 1: I would encourage you, if not before you go see this,
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  Speaker 1: definitely after. Go back and read a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 1: about Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes.
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  Speaker 2: Try not to, although the movie does a good idea,
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  Speaker 2: if you didn't know anything about Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes,
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  Speaker 2: They still give you a really good idea.
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  Speaker 1: They do, but I think if you start to be
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  Speaker 1: sympathetic toward these people, go reread about them again and
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  Speaker 1: don't be because they're.
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  Speaker 3: Horrible, horrible people. Gina, I don't think that's fair.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's fair at all because Nathan Fielder
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  Speaker 2: in the movie, he becomes very sympathetic toward her.
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  Speaker 3: He fell for her.
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  Speaker 1: Act.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Or he wanted you to think that
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  Speaker 3: he did. I don't know. She's awful. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: They're both awful.
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  Speaker 1: Here's how I know she's awful. She got pregnant the
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  Speaker 1: first time before her trial started.
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  Speaker 3: It was just an accident. Nope. How do you know?
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  Speaker 1: If you know you're going to trial where the possibility
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  Speaker 1: is you could go to prison for a long time,
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  Speaker 1: you try to not get pregnant.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Then, because this all happened during COVID, the sentencing was
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  Speaker 1: years away from when the actual trial was. She knows
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  Speaker 1: she's going in for sentencing, and she got pregnant again.
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  Speaker 3: This is not in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's why I feel comfortable talking about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's not in the movie. It's not in the movie.
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  Speaker 3: That's who she is.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, as I watched this movie, I saw Nathan Fielder
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  Speaker 2: becoming more unsure of himself, and... And kind of sympathetic.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the movie shows that.
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  Speaker 4: She said she had a device that could do something
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  Speaker 4: that she knew it could not do, and she took
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  Speaker 4: people's money.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It's fascinating, though, that the movie turns in on itself.
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  Speaker 3: I think it becomes....
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  Speaker 2: I can't tell you how it does that without giving
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  Speaker 2: stuff away, but it, it starts out one way and turns,
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  Speaker 2: it just turns itself inside out.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Now, the only.
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  Speaker 4: Sympathy that I will have for her is that tech
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  Speaker 4: bros do this all the time. They say they have
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  Speaker 4: a device that can do something and they take your
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  Speaker 4: money and then it disappears and they say, oops, tech
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  Speaker 4: bros do.
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  Speaker 3: This all the time.
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  Speaker 4: She's a woman, and I think that's why we're making
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  Speaker 4: a big deal about it.
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  Speaker 3: That might be something to it.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's also fascinating, and this is a big
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  Speaker 2: part of it, especially the first part of the film,
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  Speaker 2: is that she and Billy Evans are furiously working on
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  Speaker 2: another project. Another project that I don't... It's sort of
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  Speaker 2: similar to Theranos, but something... And she insists, no, I
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  Speaker 2: never lied. My device did work.
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  Speaker 3: It did not.
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  Speaker 4: There have been so many studies and evidence that show
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  Speaker 4: that it did not work.
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  Speaker 2: There's a whole thing at the beginning of the movie
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  Speaker 2: how she says, the New York Times misquoted me and
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  Speaker 2: they said I was playing a character and I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: playing a character and I told them that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Go see it. This is one... You can see everything
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  Speaker 3: it's called. It might.
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  Speaker 2: It might be nominated for Best Picture, and it would
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  Speaker 2: be the first time a documentary has ever been nominated
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  Speaker 2: for Best Picture.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to talk to my husband about it, and
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  Speaker 1: then I realized I can't talk to you about this
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  Speaker 1: until you've seen it. So I would just encourage you
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  Speaker 1: to go see.