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Set 1: The Irrational Knicks Hour · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that Uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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  Speaker 2: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there.
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  Speaker 2: was bo wow that Prime time. Maybe I had a
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  Speaker 2: crush on Betty Rubble.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
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  Speaker 1: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
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  Speaker 2: He caught them the game last night, although they won
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  Speaker 2: the game. You're listening to to Gottson Company.
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  Speaker 1: It is Stegotson Company, presented by FanDuel and the FanDuel Sportsbook.
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  Speaker 2: Just myself, Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: And Mikey A three Nick fans cutting it up, Mikey
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  Speaker 1: a two and a half Nick fans cutting it up.
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  Speaker 3: I've never been called half anything.
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  Speaker 2: But you're half a Nick fan? Is that right? Like
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  Speaker 2: this part of you that's rooting against the Knicks is.
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  Speaker 3: That absolutely not? No, I'm not Maybe a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit right, Maybe a part of you rooting for me
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  Speaker 2: and Taylor to be depressed.
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  Speaker 3: Is that a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: A little bit? Thank you? We all want to got
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  Speaker 2: to it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Knicks win an improbable game last night. One fifteen
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  Speaker 1: to four, the game goes to overtime. Taylor put me
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  Speaker 1: there as the Knicks are down twenty something in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. What are you thinking, by the way, before
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  Speaker 1: we get to your thoughts on this, uh, put it
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  Speaker 1: on the pole one table, Landry Shammitt where Jalen Brunson.
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  Speaker 1: So tailor and take us through your thought process there.
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  Speaker 1: Because we all thought the Knicks were gonna lose. They
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  Speaker 1: end up winning that game. They're now up won nothing
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  Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference Finals.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so no part of me ever considered shutting that
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  Speaker 4: game off. While Hope felt loss, I never considered shutting
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  Speaker 4: the game off. But as you guys know, I'm binge
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  Speaker 4: watching Breaking Bad. So I'm trying to catch up and
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  Speaker 4: finish the Breaking Bad series. So I have a two
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  Speaker 4: TV set up in my living room. The main TV
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  Speaker 4: was on the Knicks. The top TV was on the Yankees.
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  Speaker 4: The Yankee game goes, fine, the Yankees win. Neil Deval
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  Speaker 4: holds on for dear life getting that right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the fact that we're in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Finals, the place he's wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: so badly, three games away from winning the from making
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  Speaker 1: it to the NBA Finals, and he is still fucking
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  Speaker 1: concerned about the Yankees holding on for a regular season
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  Speaker 1: wid in Game forty seven. It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they all count the sage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they all count the same, and it is the Jays.
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  Speaker 2: You're right. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: So the Yankees game finishes, and I'm like, the Knicks
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  Speaker 4: are down twenty. Let me turn on Breaking Bad on
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  Speaker 4: the top TV, and I'm gonna mute the next game.
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  Speaker 4: I don't need to hear Dean Wade hitting four point
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  Speaker 4: plays for the Cavaliers. I don't need to hear Spider
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  Speaker 4: Mitchell going this entire fourth quarter as he blows by Josh.
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  Speaker 2: Hart Donovan Twitchell. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I turn on Breaking Bad and the sounds on
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  Speaker 4: Breaking Bad, and I'm one eye on the Knicks, one
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  Speaker 4: eye on Breaking Bad and listening to Breaking Bad. Then
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  Speaker 4: the lead goes from like twenty one to fifteen, and
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  Speaker 4: then it goes from fifteen to ten. And now I'm
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  Speaker 4: watching Jalen Brunton kind of take over and he's isolating
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  Speaker 4: on James Harden and I'm like, I can't I can't
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  Speaker 4: switch over from the Breaking Bad sound right now because
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  Speaker 4: the Knicks are making this comeback.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Then they cut it to about five with like two
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  Speaker 4: and a half minutes left, and I'm like, this is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: I need the game audio back. Like if the Knicks
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  Speaker 4: lose and people want to blame me somebody in Fort
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  Speaker 4: Lauderdale for turning on the Knicks audio, I'll take that.
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  Speaker 5: I'll wear that.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: This is a very important moment because Mike Yea, you
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  Speaker 1: and I have spoken about, you know, Jet games.
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  Speaker 2: If it's not going well, we will find.
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  Speaker 1: A different position on the couch. We will stand. I'll
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  Speaker 1: do anything I need to do in order for the
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  Speaker 1: Jets to come back. And so this is interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see what Taylor did because what he was doing was working,
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  Speaker 1: and so you don't go away from what's working. So
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  Speaker 1: what ended up happening here, this is super interesting. I'm
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  Speaker 1: fascinated by this.
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  Speaker 4: So I turned the game audio back on and I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I I need to feel like I'm in the Garden
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  Speaker 4: right now. I love I love Aaron Paul, love Brian Cranston,
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  Speaker 4: but I need to feel like what it's in the
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  Speaker 4: Mecca right now. And as I turned the audio on,
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  Speaker 4: I'm watching Sam Merrill shoot for shoot for a game
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  Speaker 4: winning three.
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  Speaker 2: At the top of the key.
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  Speaker 4: And he shoots it and I'm like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 4: that that's that's dead end. This is gonna be the dagger,
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  Speaker 4: the tyrese haliburt and dagger right in between my eyes.
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  Speaker 2: Yea.
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  Speaker 5: And I hear Mike Breen with the premature bang.
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  Speaker 1: It happens once in a while, it does. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we all thought it was in Sam Merrill thought it
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  Speaker 1: was in right.
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  Speaker 4: And I just hear Mike Breen go bang it out,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh my god, we're going ot. And
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  Speaker 4: then once you go to ot, you can't lose that
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  Speaker 4: game if you're the Knicks.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: That's a that's a heady play by Mike Breen right there,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's like he's practicing before go ahead, Mikey, I.
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  Speaker 3: Need to know.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it's probably the most important question looming over
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  Speaker 6: all of Taylor just said what episode?
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  Speaker 4: Yah, yeah, dude, I started breaking bad like two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 5: I'm in season five. I'm in the last season right now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow wow?
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  Speaker 1: Wait, So you went to overtime and was Walter White
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  Speaker 1: still the volume? Like was the volume up on Walter
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  Speaker 1: White or was it on Mike Breen? Which one in overtime.
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  Speaker 5: So I believe Landry Shamitt hits a three to tie it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Haliburton type three, by the way, And so everyone
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  Speaker 1: could pick apart Kenny Atkinson and everything he did. But
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  Speaker 1: I am telling you right now, Shammon had no business
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  Speaker 1: making that three, and Meryl shot should to what end?
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  Speaker 4: So that was the basketball gods repaying Knicks fans for
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  Speaker 4: however many years of torture. It's been how many years.
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  Speaker 4: I know we had him on yesterday, However many years
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  Speaker 4: we had of Isaiah Thomas coaching this team. Ever, many
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  Speaker 4: years we had to deal with Eddie Curry and stephfall
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  Speaker 4: Mar Barry and Drea Barniani.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you love Isaiah, right, I mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I love Isaiah the commentator.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but you love Isaiah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's a friend of the show now, and
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  Speaker 1: you realize that I'm friends with him, and you did
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  Speaker 1: this with Bill Simmons, and you're not going to extend
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  Speaker 1: it out to Isaiah Thomas where you say you take
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  Speaker 1: a shot at Isaiah, but at least say, hey, I
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  Speaker 1: love Isaiah Thomas.
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  Speaker 4: I love Isaiah Thomas the person the next coach. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's a bridge, a bridge too far. That would be
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  Speaker 4: like me saying I love Phil Jackson and what Phil
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  Speaker 4: Jackson did for basketball. I love Phil Jackson around the Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: But Phil Jackson's on a friend of the show. Isaiah
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  Speaker 1: is I understand what you're saying. Isaiah would tell you
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  Speaker 1: he was bad as the NIXT coach. Okay, I just say,
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  Speaker 1: you know I've had that conversation with him. Anyway, keep going.
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  Speaker 4: So Landru Shammitt hits the three where that three was
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  Speaker 4: all but out. I I was already counting, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna need at least another stop. Somehow the ball
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  Speaker 4: falls in. The second that ball falls in take that
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  Speaker 4: Roku Ramone, I say, hey, breaking bad. I'll see in
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  Speaker 4: about I'll see in about an hour. I got it
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  Speaker 4: turning this off, and I got a lock into Necks
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  Speaker 4: basketball right now.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, so, Mikey, he went away from what was working,
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  Speaker 1: went in the opposite direction, something I would never do.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Breen would have to wait until game two.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I would have kept it on breaking bed.
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  Speaker 1: But he's still won. I mean the next still one.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't reverse the outcome of the game. I'm shocked
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  Speaker 1: by this.
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  Speaker 6: I was the everyday fan of the New York Knicks
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  Speaker 6: last night in that I turned it off. I turned
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  Speaker 6: it off. I was like, Okay, I've seen all I.
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  Speaker 3: Need to see. We're up, we're down one game.
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  Speaker 6: And then I checked my phone when I got a
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  Speaker 6: text message from one of you guys, and I was like,
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  Speaker 6: what they're They're tied. And I went to put it
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  Speaker 6: back on, and I almost texted you, Taylor and said, Hey,
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  Speaker 6: I haven't been watching since the comeback.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want me to keep not watching?
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  Speaker 4: Because I'll do that for you, Taylor, so if it
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  Speaker 4: makes you better. I don't believe in jinxes. I think
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  Speaker 4: jinxes are about the dumbest thing that could convinced himself.
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  Speaker 1: Well, clearly you turned fucking breaking bad off and it
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  Speaker 1: was working for you.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm proud of you. You don't believe in jinxes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: But Mikey, as a casual Knicks fan, I don't blame
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  Speaker 4: you for turning that game. Of course, teams up twenty
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  Speaker 4: plus points with seven minutes to go in the fourth
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  Speaker 4: quarter of playoff games were six hundred and forty three in.
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  Speaker 1: Zero Yes, how many of those games were played the Mecca?
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  Speaker 3: You know you know what that means, right?
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  Speaker 5: They were due.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: At one point, Mikey A is not fucking around because
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  Speaker 1: at one point I just Mikey A wrote wow, and
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  Speaker 1: I responded one table shaman or Brunson, and Mikey A responded, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I was watching Nationals Mets inside the park Grand Slam Bunkers.
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  Speaker 1: Mikey was totally out of it game and watching the
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  Speaker 1: baseball team in New York that he doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: Care about inside the park, Grand Slab.
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  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: It's a big I'm I'm sorry I missed it. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they lost, But.
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  Speaker 4: So, Mikey, what you have to understand as you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to catch up with your Knicks fandom a Knicks crash
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  Speaker 4: course for dummies, per se. Jalen Brunson in the fourth
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  Speaker 4: quarter becomes a different person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like game with a microphone.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jalen Brunson in the fourth quarter, I have this
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  Speaker 4: thatt The most fourth quarter playoff points since twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson, most fourth quarter playoff points since twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson twenty twenty three, Jalen Brunson twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson twenty twenty five Jalen Brunson, Mikey, We as
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  Speaker 4: Knicks fans, were kind of just conditioned if we're even
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  Speaker 4: in a game in the fourth quarter, our six foot
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  Speaker 4: two point guard is just going to carry.
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  Speaker 5: Us over the finish line.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a it's a Jesus take the wheel.
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  Speaker 4: It's a Jalen Brunson take the wheel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm having this debate amongst my brothers and my
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  Speaker 6: nephew on on our chat. Is Jalen Brunson the anti
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  Speaker 6: Aaron Judge.
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  Speaker 1: Where he gets it done in the clutch, He judge
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  Speaker 1: when it matters, He gets it done consistently. He has
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  Speaker 1: gotten it done ever since he's become a New York
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  Speaker 1: Nick Taylor, how do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 2: My problem with He's put you in a real corner here.
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  Speaker 5: I know I have I've been hesitant to.
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  Speaker 4: Poo poo on Aaron Judge because he's, you know, three
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  Speaker 4: time MVP, one of the best players that have played
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  Speaker 4: for the Yankees. He has a shortcomings in October. But
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  Speaker 4: if it wasn't for Aaron Judge in April through September
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  Speaker 4: carrying what would be probably a pretty bad Yankee team, Sure,
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  Speaker 4: That's why I kind of give Aaron Judge the pass.
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  Speaker 4: There's some people who don't, and and I understand why.
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  Speaker 4: You're a Yankee. You're an all time Yankee. You're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be judged by what you do in the postseason. This
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  Speaker 4: is not a Hey, let's tear down Aaron Judge to
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: prop up Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson's our captain clutch. Jalen
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  Speaker 4: Brunson should get a statue outside Madison Square Garden. Jalen
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  Speaker 4: Brunson should get his jersey in the rafters. We love
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson.
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  Speaker 1: James Harden should also get a statue outside of Madison
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  Speaker 1: Square Garden. In fact, I'll put this on the pole Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: Through one game, is James Harden the MVP.
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  Speaker 2: For the Knicks? I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Is he is gonna have a fucking field day on
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: James Harden today?
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  Speaker 2: Jesus So, James.
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  Speaker 4: Harden finished with more turnovers six than Mayfield goals five
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  Speaker 4: for the thirty second time in his playoff career, the
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  Speaker 4: sixth time this postseason. When James Harden's on offense, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's two separate It's two separate points right now. Because
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  Speaker 4: James Harden on offense. Anytime a possession for the Calves
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  Speaker 4: ends with the ball in James Harden's hand, that's a
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  Speaker 4: win for the Knicks. On the defensive side, we have
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  Speaker 4: never seen somebody get attacked the way James Harden got
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  Speaker 4: attacked in the fourth quarter, where the Knicks were like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to isolate Jalen Brunson on James Harden, and
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  Speaker 4: James Harden has absolutely no chance to stay in front
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  Speaker 4: of Brunson.
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  Speaker 1: And we've never seen an opposing coach who didn't give
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  Speaker 1: a shit about trying to fix it. In fact, Kenny
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  Speaker 1: Atkinson should get a statue outside of Madison Square guarded
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  Speaker 1: thank you Keedny go ahead, Mike.
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  Speaker 6: Without is he here to like break down the actual
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  Speaker 6: x's and o's basketball. This is like the irrational Knicks
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  Speaker 6: fan episode. I think we should come up with a
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  Speaker 6: bunch of questions to ask Izzy when he when he
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  Speaker 6: joins us later that are just gonna make him mad, like, yes,
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  Speaker 6: did Nicks win or did the Calves lose?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like all those some real basic questions because he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: get into like heliocentric offense shit and he's gonna take
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  Speaker 1: it like next level.
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  Speaker 2: So you want to dumb it down for the audience.
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  Speaker 3: I want to dumb it down.
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  Speaker 1: Prizy, He's incapable of dumbing it down.
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  Speaker 2: He fancies himself a basketball expert.
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  Speaker 8: In Louisiana, Uh, Taylor, what was you hate win probabilities?
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  Speaker 2: And we got a text at up point. I yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, but you said to this at one point, I
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  Speaker 1: think the Calves had a ninety nine point nine percent
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  Speaker 1: chance of winning that game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's normally I am the one who's gonna
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  Speaker 4: rail against the win probabilities. That's the one where I
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  Speaker 4: was watching when the Knicks were up or the Calves
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  Speaker 4: were up twenty one points in the in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 4: with like seven minutes left. I mentioned that stat where
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  Speaker 4: there's been over six hundred times this has happened in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs, where this is the first time the team's
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  Speaker 4: ever come back. I was kind of watching that and
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  Speaker 4: being like, yeah, in the moment, to be fair to
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  Speaker 4: ESPN win probability, if.
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  Speaker 5: Stu, if I am anything, I am accountable.
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  Speaker 4: I am accountable, and I am fair, and I am
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  Speaker 4: just Yes, I agree with ESPN win probability there that
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  Speaker 4: it was.
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  Speaker 5: I would have put it even higher.
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  Speaker 2: Than I would have put it that game over. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I just would have put game over, Stu.
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  Speaker 3: I got to give you a little bit of hope
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  Speaker 3: for your life.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you need this.
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  Speaker 6: At one point during the game last night, I think
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  Speaker 6: we all know the point the New York Knicks had
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  Speaker 6: a worse percent chance to win that game than the
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: Jets to win the Super Bowl.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: This year, and I bet that I would have taken
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the Jets if I can only choose one.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: The Jets had a one percent chance to win the
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl and the Knicks comeback had a point five
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: percent chance.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, so STU, Right now, I am going on on Twitter.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: I am consuming every Jalen runs in stat like I
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: don't know if there's a way to get them forced
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: fed to my phone where I don't even have to
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: search it, Like I love an app where every two
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: minutes I just get a notification of a Jalen Brunson stat.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: I picture Batman forever with the Riddler, where you're just
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: holding the thing to your head and all the knowledge
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: is coming.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: That's what you are with Jalen Brunson's stats right now.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: So one sat I saw, sto, Jalen Brunson is the
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: second fastest point guard in NBA playoff history to reach
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: two thousand career points.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Wow, only Steph Curry did it faster.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, don't light he is the greatest free agent
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: sidey Ever.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Then the other stat I saw, Jalen Brunson has more
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: thirty five point playoff games than ninety nine point seven
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: percent of all players in NBA history. Holyp But did
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: I come out I come out here and I say,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: this guy changed my life. Where the four years before
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson, no playoffs, no playoffs, first round loss, no playoffs,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: four years since Jalen Brunson, East Semifinals, ET Semifinals, East
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Conference Finals, and now we're what three games away from
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: an NBA Finals appearance?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Three games away? You guys feel like the Calves are done.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: That's the talk today that that loss is so hard
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to overcome that the Cavaliers won't be able to do it.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's nonsense. I think it's totally absurd and ridiculous.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I am not going to be surprised that the Calves
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: win in Game two. I will tell you I had
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: a very depressed moment I'll get to you in the
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: second Mikey, when it was ninety nine point nine percent
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: win probability and it should just said game over. I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: actually turned to my wife and I said, you know what,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: let the Calves be the ones that lose to Wemby
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: in five games in the finals. It was a really
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: low moment. I didn't have Walter White on I didn't
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: go breaking bad. I was just sitting there with my
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: draw dropping to the floor because I couldn't believe I'm poorly.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: The Knicks were playing, and it was a big moment
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: for Rust until Rest made.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: A huge comeback.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I think, Wow, Rest save the day. Mikey, go ahead.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Do you believe the Calves are done here? They're cooked.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: It's amazing to me how moment to moment things change,
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: because if you said to me, hey, the Calves are
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: gonna lose Game one and overtime, uh, you'd be like.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, so they just finished the seven game series.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: They're gonna come out, They're gonna give it competitive. Okay,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: They're gonna get there.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: And now just the way they lost, yeah, I don't.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know that you can bounce back from.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: That big the way they lost, that's what people are
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: talking about. Where you had a victory, you figured, you're
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: thinking on the court, hey we're up one.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Uh, we have stolen home court advantage and we're feeling
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: pretty good about ourselves. And then all that evaporates at
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: about seven minutes and now the Knicks are up one.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: But still these are professional athletes. The Calves will get
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: a day of rest today. Again, I'm not gonna be surprised,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: not because of the way they lost.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know how good and dominant this Knicks team is.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm not certain how bad the Cleveland Cavaliers are,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna be surprised if the Cats. Here's
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the best example I could give you the Heat and
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Spurs Game six, a game in which I left Ray
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Allen hit a three. I left that game early. I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: figured in Game seven, after the Spurs were so close
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to winning a title, I thought that the Spurs would
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: come out flat in Game seven and the Heat Lebron James,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade Bosh would blow them out simply because of
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the nature of the way they lost in Game six
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: and the and the Spurs had every chance of winning
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that game in the final minute of that game in
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Game seven.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So teams are resilient, athletes can bounce back.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I fully expect Donovan Mitchell gonna be great in Game two.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I don't expect anything from James Orden.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I do agree that the matchups that the Cavaliers have
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: in this are gonna be They're good.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: They're still gonna be there.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Game two a chance to expose the next where the
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Cats front court is probably doesn't get enough credit with
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Jared Allen and Evan Mobley.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And we'll tell her that's what they got away from
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: though last night, just lobbing in into those two guys.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: If they go back and look at the film and said.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: What do we stop? What did we stop doing in
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the final seven minutes of that game? They stopped running
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the offense through Donovan Mitchell, and they stopped getting it
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to their bigs.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then early in that game, I, for as
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: much as I would love to, you know, crap on
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: him and say Dean Wade is going to be the
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: one who stops Jalen Brunson. Dean Wade did do kind
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: of a good job disrupting Jalen Brunton and not getting
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: him in a rhythm. And then for some reason, Kenny
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Atkinson in the fourth quarter mouth Ajar was just letting
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: James Harden get barbecue chicken by Jalen Brunton, possession after possession.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: And when there when they're on that forty four to
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: eleven run, they called one time out. During that run.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: There was a few moments where it felt like if
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Cleveland just called a timeout, got settled and was like, hey,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Jalen brunts And is really the only person doing anything
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: and if we help off Jalen Bruntson and he kicks
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: it at Landry Shammitt and Andrew Shammitt did step up.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: You we can all agree. You can't waste the Landry
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Shammick game and listen.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I open the I opened the episode by saying, one
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: table Andrew Shammitt or Jalen Brunton today, just for a day,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: for one day, like at noon today, they both walk
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: into a restaurant and there's one table. I'm not certain
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Shammitt doesn't get it. I mean he was a catalyst.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: He was so I think there's gonna be matchups that
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: favor the Calves in this and might not make it
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: as easy as a series as we initially thought. Like
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I was ripping my hair out in in that first
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: half the way they were guarding Donovan Mitchell, where they're
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: just trapping Donovan Mitchell. They're sending double teams to him
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: the second he crosses half court and then it's just
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Sam Sam Merrill and Max Struce being left open for
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: three I'm like Mike Brown, I'm not gonna call you
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: the nickname for you. I'm not gonna call you Mike Clown,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: but you gotta figure this out. And then I'm watching
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Josh Hart in the third another moment where I'm gonna
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: put my hand up and be transparent. I texted a
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: couple of my friends and I said, Hey, Josh Hart useless.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Get him, Get him out of here right now.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: We were all depressed last night. It's okay.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, I was in a dark place, so was
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I listen.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I turned to my wife and I said, hey, it
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: was like the season was over. I was waving the
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: white flag. Let the Cas lose to Wemby and five.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: That that is the saddest cope that I think you
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: could have as a sports fan, where you're looking at
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: your potential next round opponent and being like, you know what,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I'd rather just lose here than get sacrificed to either
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Victor wembin Yama, the seven foot four freak, or that
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: well oiled machine, the the Okac Thunder.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: The idea of James Harden, though as a fourth quarter
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: defensive stopper something no one has ever thought about James Harden.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: In his entire career.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: It's suddling, like, listen, I don't want to sit here
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and rip Kenny Atkinson.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: We're up one nothing, We're three games away from making
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: it to the NBA Finals. Thank you to Kenny Atkinson,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for thinking James Harden's a defensive stopper,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: so I don't want to make it about him.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: But holy shit, what the fuck was he thinking? Seriously?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I mean Taylor, So I.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Went from we can't win the NBA Finals, Wenby's too
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: good h and then in overtime once the game is over,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, bring on fucking Wemby.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Let's go huh.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Trade Wenby to Oklahoma City and bring that team on.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: That's fine, bring our Shay and Webby, right, it's a
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: little too much.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: The come on the train now.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Western Conference Finals has the perfect dynamic of
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: the overwhelming team versus the overwhelming player. Like if if
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: those those were combined, it would be scary for the
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: rest of the NBA. Yeah, but when I'm watching that,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: and I watched the Knicks win, and now we're three
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: games away from the finals, seven games away from their
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: first championship since the seventies. Just get me to the Finals,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: and then anything can kind of happen. You're a sprained
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: ankle away from a star player, a pulled hamstring away.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: You have somebody like Jalen Williams who's already coming back
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: from an injury. But at the same time, you have
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: somebody like og Ananobi who's coming back from an injury.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Just get me to the finals.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: And it's not like a It's not a Super Bowl
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: scenario where you have to play your best game for
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: one game.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Seven games.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: The Mecca is gonna steal us at what maybe won
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: at least two games.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: That Coica won us a game last night.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: Meka won us that game.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're saying, just get to the NBA Finals.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: You have a shot. The Pacers got there. They took
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City to seven games. They had a shot. I mean,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: let's just get there. But I'm done with just getting there.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking that, Listen. I was depressed. I wanted
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the Cavalier to go, but now I'm thinking, no, We're
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: gonna fucking sweep the Spurs. I mean, how about that.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about an NBA title.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I am That's what I'm thinking about, right Now, yesterday
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about fucking stabbing my eyelids and wear
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: up in the eyes.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: And where does that coffee eyelids?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: That's just right in the eyeballs. So I couldn't watch
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: it anymore. I'm tired of watching go ahead.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: And where does that confidence come from, Jalen Brunson.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know. I think it comes from
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Landry Shammitt.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, so the playoffs, I understand what you're saying,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: but we always know Brunton's gonna be there. You always
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: know he's gonna be there, He's gonna put up numbers,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have a good game. The moment's not gonna
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: be too big. You don't know that. And this is
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: what the playoffs are all about. It's why I love sports.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: When a guy Landry Shammitt, who's been fine, he's been
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: decent off the bench all year for the Knicks, But
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: when that guy comes in and makes a significant impact
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and helps your team come back from twenty plus down
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and hits a three that had
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: no business going in. Those are the stories and sports
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: that I love. Brunson was great. They don't win that
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: game without Shammitt.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Is that fair.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like a chicken or the egg scenario
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: because Brunson's the flurry of baskets that Jalen Brunson scored
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: where he scores seventeen points in the fourth quarter in
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: ot or the reason why they were in a position
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: for Landry Shammitt to hit some of those shots, and
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: the reason why Landry Shammitt's open on some of those shots,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: it's the Cavs realizing James Harden is getting torch and
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: they're having to send more people to help, and then
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: you're getting that swing to og Ananobi, the swing to
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Landry Shammitt. Landry Shammitt hits the big three. But yeah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: there's nobody on this Knicks team right now that I
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: would say a bad word about because somebody like Landry
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Shammitt played his way out of the rotation. And then
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: credit to Mike Brown trusting Landry Shammitt to you know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: didn't play much of a factor early in that Hawk series,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: to look at him for some reason at that game
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: and be like, hey, you know what we need right now.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we need some Landry Shaman minutes.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: And maybe that was a result of being down twenty
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: one points and almost waving the white flag.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: But land got the job done, Mikey.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Is that one of the questions we asked Israel goody
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Eras of course, did the Knicks win that game without
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Landry Shammitt last night? Let's try to do an hour
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: with Izzy where he he consumes and talks about basketball
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the way we do, void of information and facts and
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: just letting it fly.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Anytime he starts getting heliocentric, you just throw one of
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: those stupid questions at him.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, does Jalen Brunson have an extra testicle? Yes?
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you don't need extra facts and reasonings and all
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: this analytic answers where they asked Jalen Brunson after the game,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: like how did you guys get it done? And Jalen
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Brunson just looks at least salted and was like, I
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: don't really know. We don't really have an answer for
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: how we were able to come back like that.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: It was odd Abby in that moment, Mid felt the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: need to scream at Jalen Brunton saying answer the question.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Hey, is he does Jalen Brunson lead the league? And
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: want it?
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Does he lead the league? In testicles? Can we come
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: up with a bunch of questions? We won't let Izzie talk.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: We'll just say, listen, the three of us did an hour.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: We have like ten burning questions for you about last
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: night's game. They're well thought out, they're heliocentric. Let's go
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: over them right now. Let's ask him and you give
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: us answers. Can we do that? Taylor, make one of
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the questions. Does Jalen Brunson lead the league in testicles?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And do the Knicks win that game without Landry Shammitt
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: last night?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Stupid