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Grover Norquist & Ken Cuccinelli: The Deep State’s War on Your Wallet and Sovereignty · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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  Speaker 1: You or I would be in prison in orange jumpsuits
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  Speaker 1: if we did a financial scheme like the Ponzi scheme
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  Speaker 1: that is social security. Washington is doing it on purpose.
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  Speaker 1: And now there are some like Elizabeth Warren that want
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  Speaker 1: to raise our taxes to the tune of three to
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  Speaker 1: four trillion dollars the Ponzi scheme that is social Security,
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  Speaker 1: that might not be there when you need it. Right
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  Speaker 1: now with Grover Norquest, before we started, you mentioned something
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  Speaker 1: that Elizabeth Warren is trying to do a trillion, three trillion,
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  Speaker 1: four trillion. It came on throwing around the number trillion
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  Speaker 1: like it's just nothing. It's a gigantic number. She thinks
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  Speaker 1: she's going to raise trillions of dollars a how and
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  Speaker 1: what is she promising to use that money for?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, Elizabeth Warren very left wing out of the
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  Speaker 2: Massachusetts I'm a little sympathetic. Before I moved to America,
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  Speaker 2: I lived in Massachusetts. I'm familiar with us. But she
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  Speaker 2: managed to sucker a Republican nominal Republican Bernie Marino, Senator
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  Speaker 2: from Ohio. No. So she just took advantage of it,
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  Speaker 2: and he signed onto a three trillion dollar tax increase
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  Speaker 2: now it's supposed to help social Security. But when the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats raise taxes under Clinton and social Security was going bankrupt,
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  Speaker 2: they never put any into so they just spend it all,
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  Speaker 2: didn't put anything in soci security. When Obama raised taxes
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  Speaker 2: quite a bit, you didn't put any of it in
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  Speaker 2: social Security. He had new welfare programs. And then when
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  Speaker 2: Biden came in and wanted to do the ninety trillion dollar,
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  Speaker 2: ninety trillion, t trillion dollars global warming stuff, and none
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  Speaker 2: of it went into sociecurity. So the idea that she's
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  Speaker 2: going to put anything sob security as Joe, she wants
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  Speaker 2: three trillion dollars over the next decade, which would almost
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  Speaker 2: wipe out the Trump tax in tech tax cuts. And
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately Bernie Marina, who's a Morano, who's a Republican signed on,
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  Speaker 2: just got took advantage of. And he's new and he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't understand. He just agreed to a three trillion dollars
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  Speaker 2: tax increase for nothing. And by the way, what it'll
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  Speaker 2: do is it's a massive tax on self employed people,
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  Speaker 2: small businesses. It'll make Oh, Bernie's from Ohio. Bernie Marina,
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  Speaker 2: he's from Ohio. He'll make the small businessman there pay
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  Speaker 2: six fifty six percent rate tax higher than people in Britain. Pey,
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  Speaker 2: we went, we started shooting at the British when they
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  Speaker 2: wanted us to pay more on income taxes. Now we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be paying more than them. In Bernie Marina's
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  Speaker 2: tax increase, tax increase world.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think it's ridiculous, Bernie Marino. I think those
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  Speaker 1: watching and listening probably would know him because he was
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  Speaker 1: the one questioning Keith Ellison from Minnesota and did a
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  Speaker 1: very good job in the questioning. But you're right, he's new.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he gets what the gig is. Elizabeth
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  Speaker 1: Warren will lie to your face to get what she wants,
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  Speaker 1: which is more of your money. In mind and everybody
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  Speaker 1: watching and listening, let's go into the weeds a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't mind grow over. When it comes to
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  Speaker 1: social Security, what was the plan? Because I have a
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  Speaker 1: four oh one K, I do very well. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I'll need Social Security, I hope not. Was it
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  Speaker 1: supposed to go to everybody? Were they supposed to take
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  Speaker 1: as much money as they possibly could, pretend like it
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  Speaker 1: was in a lockbox somewhere as al Gore would say,
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  Speaker 1: and then they wouldn't touch it. Is that what the
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  Speaker 1: plan was.
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  Speaker 2: When Franklin delan and Roosevelt put it forward, he thought
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  Speaker 2: he was setting up something like the Germans had. It
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  Speaker 2: was a German idea. Under before World War Two, the
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  Speaker 2: Germans had this idea, We're going to give you some
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  Speaker 2: money when you retire. This is when all jobs were physical,
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  Speaker 2: and that was the theory, and they weren't thinking of
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  Speaker 2: the world we live in today. Six Back in nineteen sixty,
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  Speaker 2: only six percent of Americans had a four or one
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  Speaker 2: k or an ira or the equivalent, okay, something where
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  Speaker 2: you actually own stocks, and they increased in value it
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  Speaker 2: every year. You could put some in, but it got
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  Speaker 2: more and more and more, and you could have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money to retire, and you didn't take any
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  Speaker 2: money from anybody else. And it wasn't a government program.
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  Speaker 2: It's just you. Today that number sixty five percent of
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  Speaker 2: Americans are in the stock market, and when the stock
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  Speaker 2: market booms, there's a reason why they announce how the
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  Speaker 2: stark market's doing earlier in the TV shows than they
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  Speaker 2: used to. There's a number of people who care and
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  Speaker 2: for who's their life really depends on it. It matters.
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  Speaker 2: What we should do is what countries like Chili and
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  Speaker 2: others have done, which is turn the government program into
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  Speaker 2: four one k and ira so that you're saving real money.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why the Trump accounts for young people for
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  Speaker 2: He's willing to have the federal government put in a
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars when a child is born in the United
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  Speaker 2: States for the next four years just to get it going.
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  Speaker 2: But the founder of doll and his wife are putting
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  Speaker 2: about six seven billion dollars into the accounts for twenty
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  Speaker 2: four million low income kids to get them started. And
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  Speaker 2: now they can put more money in. Foundations can put
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  Speaker 2: money in, the parents can put up to five thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars in. Kids can start their life with actual assets.
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  Speaker 2: And can you imagine ten and twelve year olds in
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  Speaker 2: high school and stuff talking about how their stocks are doing.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have a better educated collection of eighteen
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  Speaker 2: year olds than we right now have in Congress in
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  Speaker 2: terms of how the economy works.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think you're absolutely right, But what I'm wondering
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  Speaker 1: is what was I know what the plan was, now
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  Speaker 1: they put it in place because most people were not
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  Speaker 1: self invested. I understand that many of us now the
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  Speaker 1: majority is self invested. But what was that money supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do? Why is it broke? Did they just not
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  Speaker 1: collect enough? Has government spent the money promising to give
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  Speaker 1: it back and never does? Why is it running out
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  Speaker 1: of money?
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  Speaker 2: People were led to believe that this money was being
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  Speaker 2: put somewhere and perhaps invested in quite in fact, your
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  Speaker 2: taxes were taken and given to your grandparents, so there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing ever saved.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pyramid screme. It's a pyramid scheme.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called palmsy scheme. People, mister Palmsey went to
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  Speaker 2: jail for this, or I did this? You go to prison? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: And in Chile, which one of the number of countries
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  Speaker 2: have done, said okay, here's what we're going to do.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to go from the where there's no savings
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  Speaker 2: to when there is safe and there's a transition. It's
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  Speaker 2: not very important, but we need more people that have
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  Speaker 2: four or one k's iras, health savings accounts, Education savings US.
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  Speaker 2: These are starting up all across the country, where people
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  Speaker 2: can save for their kids' education and college, where they
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  Speaker 2: can save for their own healthcare, where they can save
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  Speaker 2: for their retirement and not rely on the government, which
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  Speaker 2: hasn't in this case, actually saved the money for us.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine that government didn't do a good job with their money.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way, Grover. Why is it law? Why is
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  Speaker 1: it compulsory? Why can't I say I'm opting out, I've
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  Speaker 1: got my own savings, I'm good for retirement. Why does
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  Speaker 1: the government get to, just before I even see the money,
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  Speaker 1: take money out of my out of my hard work,
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  Speaker 1: and just keep it. Why can't I just shut that off?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they take it rather than let if you choose
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  Speaker 2: to do it, you put your money into a four
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  Speaker 2: or one KO mutual fund. So whereas what they do
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  Speaker 2: is they say there'll be no savings, there's no increase.
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  Speaker 2: The stock market goes up, there's nothing for you. The
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  Speaker 2: economy grows, there's nothing for you. They don't have a
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  Speaker 2: product they could sell, which is why it's mandatory. And we,
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  Speaker 2: as you point out, we need to make it easier
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  Speaker 2: and easier for people to invest in for themselves. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how the government's going to fix the problem
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  Speaker 2: they created, but we need to let the American people
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  Speaker 2: solve it for themselves. And sixty five percent of Americans
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  Speaker 2: have begun to do that. And many in a very
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  Speaker 2: serious way. We just need to keep at it.
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  Speaker 1: I just like to opt out. I mean, it's my money.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. If I don't work, they don't
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  Speaker 1: get the money. But if I go to work and
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  Speaker 1: get punished by them taking the money, it's very strange.
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  Speaker 1: Grover Norquiz, president of Americans for Tax Reform atr dot org.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure you go there, Groover. Why are they messing
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  Speaker 1: with our cars? I'm a car guy. A little while
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  Speaker 1: ago they were going to put a breathalyzer in every
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  Speaker 1: car to make sure I wasn't drunk before I drove.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't had a drink since I was twenty two,
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  Speaker 1: so that doesn't make any sense. Why are you alleging
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  Speaker 1: that I'm drunk until I prove to the government that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. Then they wanted to take out AM radio,
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  Speaker 1: which made no sense. Then they said every car has
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  Speaker 1: got to be electric, it can't be internal combustion engine anymore.
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  Speaker 1: And the latest one we want to put a national
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  Speaker 1: car tax on. Go over. Why are they messing with
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  Speaker 1: my wheels?
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  Speaker 2: Well, because they want more money, not for roads. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, twenty percent or more of the money that
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  Speaker 2: you pay in your gasoline taxes or other taxes for
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  Speaker 2: cars goes to five or six big cities their metro system,
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  Speaker 2: and those metro systems have very nice pay and very
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  Speaker 2: nice pensions, and people who are driving cars are paying
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  Speaker 2: for that. And then they turn around and go, since
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  Speaker 2: we looted the gas tax to do other things, build
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  Speaker 2: parks and do subways and bicycle paths and so on,
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  Speaker 2: everything except your car, everything except your roads to drive on.
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  Speaker 2: They kept looting that. At the state level they do
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  Speaker 2: that too, And one of Governor Walker got elected governor
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  Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, he found that a billion dollars, which is
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  Speaker 2: a state levels a lot of money had been taken
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  Speaker 2: out of the gas tax and spent on there's stuff.
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  Speaker 2: The legislature had looted the gas tax, which were supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be for highways. Well, they loot the highway system.
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  Speaker 2: And then they turn around, go, we don't have any
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  Speaker 2: money because we stole it all. And then they say,
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  Speaker 2: so you, the American people, have to pay for it.
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  Speaker 2: We can't raise the gas tax because you're already pissed
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  Speaker 2: as hack about our gas tax. So here's what we'll do.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have a car tax. I had guys from the
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  Speaker 2: US Chamber of Commerce, come say, we've got this great idea.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have a huge car tax to replace the
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  Speaker 2: gasoline tax. And then they told me to make when
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  Speaker 2: I suggested this wasn't a great idea. People will hate
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  Speaker 2: your car tax. They hate you already when it's just
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  Speaker 2: at the state level. They said, well, but the but
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  Speaker 2: the fl CIO, the unions like it. The union take
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  Speaker 2: a living driving running the subways. Yes, they like it
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  Speaker 2: because they're going to get the money, not you and me,
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  Speaker 2: and not the roads. So they backed off and said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're just going to have a starter kit. We'll just
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  Speaker 2: have one on things that are at electric vehicles. We
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  Speaker 2: started on electric vehicles because they don't pay gasoline taxes.
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  Speaker 2: And then later but their goal, their original goal was
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  Speaker 2: everybody pays a huge car tax, like once a year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think this is going anywhere good. It was
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  Speaker 2: strong on people, but people should be aware of it.
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  Speaker 2: If you see your congress and her senator, stick your
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  Speaker 2: finger up their nose and say, are you really going
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  Speaker 2: to try and stick a car tax on me? And
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  Speaker 2: don't tell me it's not on me yet, because we
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  Speaker 2: know where it's going.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting is you said something in passing that
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  Speaker 1: was very, very important. They were pushing electric cars down
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  Speaker 1: our throats for years, but if you drive an electric car,
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  Speaker 1: you don't pay a federal excise tax for gas. So
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  Speaker 1: now we were forced you not to do what was
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  Speaker 1: giving us the money, and now we're going to make
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  Speaker 1: you give us the money some other way because you
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  Speaker 1: did what we told you to do. Grover, what am
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  Speaker 1: I looking at? It's like bizarro world.
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  Speaker 2: Every day is a good day for a tax increase
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  Speaker 2: if you're a positive, but not all politicians. Look, raising
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  Speaker 2: taxes is what elected officials do rather than govern. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot of work to govern, to make decisions,
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  Speaker 2: to say yes, to say no, to.
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  Speaker 1: Say cut spending, hello, cut spending maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, reform maybe even keep the looting down to
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  Speaker 2: a doll roar. You know the fraud that goes on.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to Oz, that doctor Roz who works
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  Speaker 2: at AKHS, and he said, the amount of misspending, fraud,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, money that's going places
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  Speaker 2: is not supposed to go and where they didn't claim
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  Speaker 2: it was going is rather significant. And they would rather
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  Speaker 2: raise taxes, some of these politicians, than fix the problem.
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  Speaker 2: They had because look, if you fix a problem now
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  Speaker 2: that's been going on for ten, twenty, thirty, forty fifty years.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, what was wrong with you?
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  Speaker 2: Why now?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Right? So kind of almost better to go. I don't
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  Speaker 2: see a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Let's raise taxes atr dot org is the website. It's
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  Speaker 1: Grover norquiz go and check that out. When the country
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  Speaker 1: was founded, were there taxes in place? How did they
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  Speaker 1: pay for government?
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  Speaker 2: Ah, before the government. If the country was founded, when
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  Speaker 2: we were thirteen colonies, we were paying one to two
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  Speaker 2: percent of our income in total taxes. Okay, one to
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  Speaker 2: two percent. The British, our oppressors, the ones who lived
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  Speaker 2: in London, were paying twenty percent because you run an umpire,
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  Speaker 2: it's expensive. And so the British said, hey, Americans, why
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  Speaker 2: don't you pay something closer to twenty because you're only
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  Speaker 2: paying one to two and you're getting rich, you're getting
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  Speaker 2: more successful than we are. This sucks. And we started
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  Speaker 2: shooting at them until.
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  Speaker 1: They left, right.
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  Speaker 2: And the problem is, and we did one to two
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  Speaker 2: percent up until turn of the century. I mean they
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  Speaker 2: went up during the Civil War, but then back down
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  Speaker 2: again when the war was over. And then we get
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  Speaker 2: in one two percent until they invented the income tax.
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  Speaker 2: Why did they get why do we get the income tax?
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  Speaker 2: Several things. One the prohibitionists who didn't like alcohol. About
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  Speaker 2: a third of all the taxes in America were on alcohol.
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  Speaker 2: So they said, if you ban alcohol, you can't pay
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  Speaker 2: the bus.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a fuel excise tax. Right, yeah, So.
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  Speaker 2: They said, okay, So all the guys, she said, let's
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  Speaker 2: not let's make alcohol illegal. They said, let's have an
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  Speaker 2: income tax. Then you had the people who hated the tariffs,
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  Speaker 2: because that was the big tax, and everyone hated the tariffs,
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  Speaker 2: and so they said, get rid of the tariffs with
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  Speaker 2: much more, I have an income tax. And then there
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  Speaker 2: was a third group, which is the hate and envy group.
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  Speaker 2: I hate people who work on Saturdays. Let's have an
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  Speaker 2: income tax on them, thinking that it won't come on you.
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  Speaker 2: At some point, of course it does. So they did
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  Speaker 2: all of that stuff. Now we still have taxes on liquer,
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  Speaker 2: we still have tariffs, and all the hated envy people
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  Speaker 2: still envy the guys who were there. And when they
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  Speaker 2: put the income tax in nineteen thirteen, it was only
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  Speaker 2: seven percent was top rate top rate. That's half of
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  Speaker 2: the bottom rate. Now seven percent was a top rate,
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  Speaker 2: and you had to be making eleven million dollars eleven
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  Speaker 2: million dollars in today's dollars to pay the seven percent.
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  Speaker 2: Now half the country's paying the income tax, and seven
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  Speaker 2: percent is half of the bottom rate, not the top rate,
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  Speaker 2: but the bottom rate. We got sold a bill of
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  Speaker 2: good and because they had the income tax there, it's
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  Speaker 2: probably why we got into World War One. We wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have gotten into World War one if they hadn't had
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  Speaker 2: this money machine.
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  Speaker 1: What's interesting is when they put it in, wasn't there
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  Speaker 1: a promise I guess it wasn't a real legal promise
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  Speaker 1: that we will never raise it higher than this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they always say that. Okay, they say, well, look
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  Speaker 2: I got this great tax. You won't pay it. It's
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  Speaker 2: just on a few people. It's just on the rich,
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  Speaker 2: for instance, or maybe on foreigners, or maybe on big businesses,
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  Speaker 2: but not you. They haven't finished the sentence. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to tax the rich first, then you. They put in
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  Speaker 2: a tax to pay for the Spanish American War, which
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty years ago or so, and it
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  Speaker 2: was on phones, long distance phones. Phones cost four thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars in today's dollars. Not very many people had phones.
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  Speaker 2: They were very now nobody had long distance because nobody
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  Speaker 2: knew anybody in another state. It was too difficult to
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  Speaker 2: get there. So only really rich people who had really
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  Speaker 2: much friends in another state would ever pay it. Pretty
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  Speaker 2: soon everyone had a phone and everybody was paying that tax.
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  Speaker 2: It lasted one hundred years. Now. I went to public school,
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  Speaker 2: but I recently on TV saw that the Spanish American
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  Speaker 2: War has been over for some time.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, Now I wasn't sure about that. I was going
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  Speaker 1: to ask Grover, let me ask you one question. That's
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of loaded, but I'm sure you could answer it.
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  Speaker 1: Are we ever going to get to a place where
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  Speaker 1: we could start rolling some of this stuff back? Because
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  Speaker 1: you and I, I think could agree that if you're
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  Speaker 1: thirty thousand feet up, the United States of America is
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  Speaker 1: a socialist country right now because they're stealing everybody's money
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  Speaker 1: who's working hard and giving it to people that aren't
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  Speaker 1: working hard. How is that not socialism? Can we ever
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  Speaker 1: dial this back? What is it going to take to
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  Speaker 1: do it? If we can?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we can, And the answer is we are doing
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  Speaker 2: it in a number of states. Okay, there are eight
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  Speaker 2: states with no state income tax. I live in a
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  Speaker 2: fine Florida is paying half as much in tax as
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: total taxes, half as much per person as New York,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: same number of people New York at Florida. Florida pays
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: half as much. Why well, because they just don't spend
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: as much as New York and many They have not
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: raised spending. I don't mean with inflation, I mean at all.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: In last four years in Florida, they keep the spending down.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: I would like to have more of the decisions, more
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: of the programs, maybe all of the welfare programs. Let
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: the states handle them, because some states do it really
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: well and some states do it really bad. And two
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: things happen. Either people keep leaving California and New York
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: and Chicago and go to red states that are spending
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: less money, or the blue states decide to grow up
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: and govern instead of raising taxes. So it's win win
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: either way. The more decisions that are made at the
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: state level, the more you see competition. Fifty states. Some
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: people get it right, some people get it wrong. It's
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: not always the same states. Everyone's in a while. A
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: blue state has a good idea, and you learn from it.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Grover with the people fleeing New York to go to Florida,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: to come here to Texas, people leaving Illinois, people leaving
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: New Jersey, people leaving California. Will those states, by a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: matter of fact, just to survive budgetarily have to lower
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: taxes or they're going to keep on being stupid like
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: mom Donnie, who's like, we'll just take over the buildings
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and will be the landlord. He would like to make
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: full communism in New York. But will they be forced
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: budgetarily to change something or else they're going to lose
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: their entire populations.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: They will have to change. And once you took down
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the Berlin while East Germany had to change. Okay, yes,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And the more you let people leave, that's why in
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: California they're talking about wanting to export their taxes to
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: people who flee California. This sounds like something that Rhodesia
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: or or East Germany would do. People are leaving, we
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: must tax them before they get out the door. Yes,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: that level of competition really does change things. People really
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: are they leave California and move to Texas. If you've
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: ever been to California and ben to Texas, it's not
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: the weather, right, nobody leaves California because of the weather,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: and nobody else to Texas because of the weather. Yes,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: but that our government less cost leaving you alowe people move.
• 18:14
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• 18:17
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• 18:19
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• 18:22
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• 18:25
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• 18:27
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• 18:28
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• 18:42
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• 18:44
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• 18:47
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• 18:49
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• 18:50
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• 18:52
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• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I said, last question, Have you got it? Just a
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: minute to tell my audience whether or not we can
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: through reconciliation do the Save America Act? Is that not
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: possible because reconciliation is really about policy changes on budget
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: on budgetary items, and the Save America Act doesn't fall
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: them into that basket.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, the reconciliation allows you to pass something in the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Senate with fifty one boots, not the two thirds or
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: sixty right mark. But it's limited to quest of more
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: or less spending or more or less taxes. You can't
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: reform welfare. You could cut it, you could reduce taxes.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: You could spend more or less on welfare, but you can't.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: You can't change the laws. And that's uh. There's a
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: lot of interest in the Save America Act. It's a
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: great piece of legislation. You just can't do it on reconciliation.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: The way the rules are written. You need sixty votes,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: and we need to get there. But that means vote,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: get more people willing to pass these laws.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Less than getting rid of the filibuster. There's no way
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to do this then.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: No, there isn't. Right now, I understand everybody's frustration. I'm
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: very frustrated because even things that I think are budgets
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: that we want to move through the parliamentarian guys, no,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: this is it's a budget issue, but it's mostly policy.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: And maybe she's right at the time, but it gives
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: us a lot of flexibility. It's the only way we've
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: ever gotten tax cuts recently is because of reconciliation. So
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: it's a wonderful thing. It's much better than getting if
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: you have to have sixty votes, there wouldn't be any
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: tax cuts in America because there are no Democrats willing
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to vote for tax cuts.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: It's Grover norquiest President Americans for Tax Reform go to
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• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a million for the time today and Happy Independence Day.
• 21:19
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• 21:22
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• 21:25
  Speaker 1: will give you Ken Kuchinelli. Ken is the former Deputy
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Secretary of the DHS. It's got a lot to say
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: about the Supreme Court rulings that just happened, also about
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: what's going on the border and voting integrity. Enjoy.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: The SAVE Act includes a baseline one proving citizenship. Washington
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: screwed that up. Federal court screwed that up. Only Washington
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: can fix it. States can't fix that. States can stop
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: ballots from coming in after election day, but they can't
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: fix the confirmation of citizenship. Only the federal goal can
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: do that. That has to come in the Save Act.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: You know, I certainly hope we'll see a reconciliation package
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: that includes a little bit of funding. You'll never hear
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: me Joe talking about funding things. I always want to
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: cut everything right, me too, But you've got to fund
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: it for it to be in reconciliation. And I hope
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: they go about doing that so that at least by
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: the presidential election of twenty twenty eight, we can be
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: confirming citizenship and everybody using voter IDs, which even CNN,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: those radical right wingers at CNN, even their polling finds
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: over seventy percent of Democrats support voter ID and citizenship confirmation.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: The only place that isn't supported is the United States Senate.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because reconciliation is for but is
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: not to change budget items. It's to change policy on
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: things that are already on the books. I could say,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: no tax in overtime, no tax on tips. You can
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: change sort of some things that do revolve around money.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: But if it's a money issue, if it's not a issue,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: like the Same America Act isn't, how do you make it?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: So do you say we've got to add some funding
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to pay for the governments? I mean, can you do that? Yeah?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: So one way you could do that is you set
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: up one of the complaints the other side makes, and
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: it's a bit of a false complaint, is oh, poor
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: people can't afford IDs. Really, how they get on planes
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: and trains and going to movies and doing everything, getting
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: a tattooed, doing everything else you gotta do. But let's
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: use their argument. Let's put some funding in there so
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: that the states can draw on the funding so poor
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: people who can't afford IDs, both of them can get IDs.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: But that makes it, Joe about money, and that makes
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: it a monetary expenditure instead of a change to fundamental law.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I would note there are very minimalistic federal ID requirements
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: on the books. And I would also note it's already
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: federal law that non citizens can't vote. It's just the
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: states that no way of enforcing it. This gives them
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: a way of enforcing it, so they're not making new law,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: which is important, or the parliamentarian of the Senate will
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: rule against you. Right, And it involves spending, which is
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: what a reconciliation bill is supposed to be about. So
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: that's how you'd go about doing that, Joe. It's a
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: question really of whether the Republicans in the Senate fifty
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: one of them or fifty if the Vice President participates,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: we'll support that, and certainly a lot of them have
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: been talking big about it. But it's literally time to
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: put our money where your mouth is.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, I said John thun problem. I mean
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: if you had Mike Lee, and there would have gotten done.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Probably Rick Scott might have gotten it done. There's some
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: other centers that I think would have gotten it done.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: The fact that you can't rally fifty out of the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: fifty three members that you have on your side really
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: shows me that there's a problem with poon. I don't
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: know John Thun, but I feel like he's been very weak.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Mike Lee wants to do the talking filibuster. Do you
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: agree with him? Let's just keep on talking about it
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: until we get the cloture.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean everybody gets to talk twice.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: It's a matter of a willingness to do it, staying
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: in town and holding the floor and working through it. Look,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the Civil Rights Act back, you know, just before I
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: was born, got through a philibuster. The filibuster then was
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: sixty seven. That was the threshold, not sixty and they
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: talked right through it. By the way, a higher percentage
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: of Republicans voted for that than Democrats. And the way
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: they got through the filibuster was they talked and debated
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: their way through the filibuster, just like Mike Lee describes.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it was nineteen seventy five something like
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: that where they changed it to sixty. But you don't
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: actually have to filibuster. You can say I'm gonna go
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: to lunch. I philibuster. That's it. You're done, and that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: just locks up the Senate and they keep on complaining. Well,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: it gives the minority party a voice. You had a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: voice when there was a talking filibuster. If you want
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to be able to pass legislation, don't be in the minority.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It's kind of that simple, ken do you do? You
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: fear like I do that as soon as Democrats take over,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and I hope they don't, but if they should take
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the Senate back, they'll just blow the filibuster out and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: doing it they want.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, someday they'll get it back, and they are talking
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: about doing that. And look who's winning Democrat primaries now,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is the communist wing of the Democrat
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Party is now the predominant wing of the Democrat Party
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: in America. And forget this socialist stuff. They're communists. And
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: just because they don't know what a communist is, you
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: and I do, and everything they say is absolutely and
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: completely consistent with communist ideology. And I don't think it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: a coincidence that a lot of these folks are first
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: generation immigrants from very left wing parts of the world,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: and they're importing that politics into the Democrat Party in
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: the United States. And when Hikeem Jeffries is too right
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: wing for you, you know that you are barely clinging
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: on to the left end of your flat earth.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Well, how do we here ken where we were actually
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: dying to stop communism? Four hundred seven thousand Americans died
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: in World War Two. We are globally we've been trying
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to shut down communism for over one hundred years. Yet
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: somehow they're getting elected to our Congress, They're getting elected
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to mayor's offices, they're getting elected to state representatives and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: comptroller's offices. I mean, how did that? I get it?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: We're free, we're liberated. Everybody can run for office. But
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: my god, they're literally saying out loud, we are the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: reason why nine to eleven happened. There's some woman that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: just won a primary who literally has said that in
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the DSA right in Colorado. So you've got people who
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: are saying, I hate the country. I'm in office at
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: elon Omar to support the Somali community. That's why she's
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: in Congress in the United States. Don't we have any
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: common sense where we say, listen, we fought these people
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: abroad to stop it from coming here. We're not gonna
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: let you take office here. Yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: And I think the way this is unfolding with the
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: America Last being voiced by these people. The Constitution speaks
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: to the requirements to be in Congress, and there's three
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: of them, and allegiance to the United States isn't one
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: of them, because I think the founding fathers rather assumed that, Yes,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: now two thirds of them can throw these people out,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: but they're not going to do that because the Democrats,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: what we'll call regular Democrats. I'm not sure there are
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: many of those left, but they're afraid. They're just flat
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: out afraid anymore. And the strategy of the communists is
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: to take over the Democrat Party, whether they're a minority
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: or a minority. And I would point you back you
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: mentioned one hundred years, Joe, go back to the Mensheviks
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: and the Bolsheviks. Folks, look it up. If those words
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: don't ring a bell to you. The Bolsheviks did not
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: take over the Soviet Union than Russia. It was the
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Mensheviks who did it, and then the Bolsheviks, the more
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: radical and smaller group, killed, purged as in purge to
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: death the Mensheviks and took over the Soviet Union. Hello Lenin, Stalin, etc.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: The Mensheviks used the Bolsheviks used the Mensheviks in the
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: same way the communists Democrat socialists of America are using
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the Democrat Party today, the Democrat Party that most people
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: listening to you and me, Joe knows, are the Mensheviks
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: in this play. And the new folks coming in are
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: the Bolsheviks. And make no mistake, folks, they would put
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: your head on a guillotine if they thought they could
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: get away with it, because they would say that in
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: their lead opinion, it's for the greater good. And you
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: asked where this came from, Joe, it came from the
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: most successful progressive undertaking in the history of America, and
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: that is the takeover of our educational system.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. It's Kane Kuchinelli. He is the national
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: chairman Election Transparency Initiative. Go and follow him everywhere. Also,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: former acting Pity Secretary of the DHS. Let's talk about
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: allegiance for a second. I'm glad you used that word
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: because allegiance should have been taken. It should have been
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: in the fourteenth Amendment. Instead of saying subject to the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: jurisdiction thereof, it should have said without any allegiance to
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: another foreign country. If they would have said that, it
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: would have been very simple. In fact, when Senator Howard
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: from Michigan said you have to put in subject to
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the jurisdiction thereof, he meant allegiance. He met, you can't
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: have an allegiance to another country. Again, Ammy Cony Barrett
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and also the Chief the Chief Justice John Roberts get
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: this wrong on the fourteenth Amendment in my opinion, and
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: that they alleged that the baby is subject to the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: jurisdiction thereof and the allegiance of the parents doesn't matter.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I think it was a really bad ruling. You said
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: on a state level, we can fix the mail in
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: balloting stuff. I agree with you, Ken states do anything
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to fix what they just got wrong. Mike Lee says,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: let's get a constitutional amendment to fix how wrong they
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: were on this, And I'm like, Mike, you can't pay
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the past the Save America Act. What can happen now
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to fix this?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I mean the technical solution is a constitutional but I
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: agree with you, Joe, and the practicality. And by the way,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: I authored a brief in this case on behalf of
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: the Center for Renewing America, and we focused on the
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: concept of allegiance that you just raised, Joe. And it
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: is in the common law that the Chief Justice here,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: this is his second Obamacare.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: That is the.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Scale of how bad his opinion is in this case.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: And so we literally this is one of his two
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: worst of all time, along with Obamacare. And in Obamacare,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: he said Obamacare was a tax, even though Barack Obama
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: said it wasn't a tax, and no court or judge
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: anywhere had said it was a tax until the Chief
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Justice alone said it was a taxed.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Well, if it remained define, as you know, if it
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: remained defined, it would have been illegal. They couldn't do that.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: They can't find you for not buying something, they can
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: tax you.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Though this birthright decision now is on the level with
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: that Obamacare decision for the Chief Justice, it is that
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: bad and it sacrifices the value of American citizenship. It
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: puts at risk our sovereignty. It isn't that there are
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: no there's nothing we can do. For example, the president
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: has the power to not let women who are pregnant
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: or who don't have a negative pregnancy test come into
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: the country that you use the same rules we used
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: in COVID. The president has two to twelve that authority
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: is the statute, and he can do that. But you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: the next Democrat who comes in there, even if this
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: president does it, isn't going to do that. And you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: you've got Chinese folks running or operating into birth tourism
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: industry in the United States, largely out of California. Right,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: You've got Mexican mothers, women come across the border to
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: give birth for this very purpose. That's the single largest country.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: The most dangerous is China. But the single largest is
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: for obvious reasons, right, And it exposes us to a
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: permanent bleeding out of the value of our sovereignty and
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: of the citizenship that is the greatest gift of being
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: an American.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: It is ken Kuchinelli Election Transparency Initiative. You know, everything
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you just said makes perfect sense. The president can do
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: those things. We'll call him a misogynist, they'll call him
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  Speaker 1: an anti Chinese person, or right, it's not going to
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  Speaker 1: change anything. But Mike Davis, when I had them on yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: made a really salient point that I hadn't thought about.
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  Speaker 1: You probably have because you're smarter. The Chinese communist tourism,
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  Speaker 1: the citizenship tourism. They're doing the come here, have the baby,
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  Speaker 1: go back to China, and that child is raised as
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  Speaker 1: a subject of the CCP. And at eighteen guess what,
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  Speaker 1: they can start voting in our elections, Ken, I mean literally,
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  Speaker 1: you've got some as to say, one point five million
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  Speaker 1: Chinese babies have been born here as American citizens. That's
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  Speaker 1: going to change a lot of elections if they're allowed
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  Speaker 1: to vote in eighteen years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly will. And let's make no mistake. Every
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  Speaker 3: law of the CCP is ultimately that you have to
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  Speaker 3: obey the state. That's what communism is. And they are
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  Speaker 3: politically communists, even if they've grown themselves economically by allowing
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  Speaker 3: a certain amount of capitalism. It's not in their politics
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  Speaker 3: or their rights. It's only in the economy.
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  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 3: Go vote this way or we'll kill your family. They
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  Speaker 3: can and do say things like that to gather intelligence.
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  Speaker 3: Every corporation, every Chinese corporation is subject to having any
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  Speaker 3: information that they have access to demanded by the CCP,
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  Speaker 3: and they have to turn it over. Corporations that work
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  Speaker 3: in China have to do this, which is a major
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  Speaker 3: security concern for the United States today, just in the
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  Speaker 3: business front. And then you throw in this voting piece.
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  Speaker 3: And look one thing about totalitarians like the Chinese communists,
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  Speaker 3: They're going to be there a long time. They can
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  Speaker 3: exercise and execute long term plans. They've been doing it
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  Speaker 3: against the United States, and as strong as they are
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  Speaker 3: now and as threatening as they may seem right now,
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  Speaker 3: twenty years from now, China is gonna be well on
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  Speaker 3: its way to a collapse, to an absolute collapse. And
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  Speaker 3: then what happens Their one child policy is going to
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  Speaker 3: catch up with them. And I guarantee you that in
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  Speaker 3: about fifty years there will be more people in the
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  Speaker 3: United States of America than in the communist China as
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  Speaker 3: we know it today. It's gonna flip that fast. And
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  Speaker 3: so what are all those millions of Chinese Americans gonna do,
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  Speaker 3: and how are they going to vote? And what sort
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  Speaker 3: of leverage will China try to exercise over that time.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that. Time will tell,
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  Speaker 3: but we scary proposition.
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  Speaker 1: No, we have. We met ourselves very vulnerable to It's
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  Speaker 1: keneku cheneli. Let me let me finish with this and
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  Speaker 1: put on your DHS cap if you can, but we'll
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  Speaker 1: stay with China. Are we doing enough to stop the
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  Speaker 1: Chinese Party? I mean, the Chinese Communist Party is buying
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  Speaker 1: land adjacent to military installations and military basis, and Chinese
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  Speaker 1: tourists are getting lost in their rent a car mere
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  Speaker 1: military basis. We had a Chinese balloon, for God's sakes,
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  Speaker 1: traverse our entire contiguous United States. Are we doing anything
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  Speaker 1: on the DHS side to stop this from happening? Why
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  Speaker 1: can't we just say you can't own land. Look, I
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: went and adopted my daughter Gia in China. I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: buy land while I was there, Ken they wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: let me. Why are we letting them do it here? Well?
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  Speaker 3: Because we apply our own Western freedoms to everybody, including
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  Speaker 3: Islamis and the communist Chinese who come and take advantage
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  Speaker 3: of it. There are states that don't allow it. Florida
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  Speaker 3: is an example, and we could block it at the
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  Speaker 3: national level. I frankly don't understand why we don't block
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: it at the national level. I don't understand why that
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  Speaker 3: surveillance balloon wasn't shot down the minute it was spotted
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  Speaker 3: by President than Biden. I don't understand that we make
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  Speaker 3: ourselves very, very vulnerable. I I back to my previous point.
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  Speaker 3: I would note that as competitive and dangerous as China
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  Speaker 3: looks to us today, and it is and it will
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  Speaker 3: be for the next ten fifteen years or so, their danger,
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  Speaker 3: their their period where they can stand up to us
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  Speaker 3: as a peer, is about as close as it's ever
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  Speaker 3: going to be right now, Right now, we are going
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  Speaker 3: to outrun China in the years ahead if we maintain
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  Speaker 3: our freedom and keep our keep the kind of economic
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  Speaker 3: growth that Trump has brought alive and well, and and
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  Speaker 3: we keep having children. I'm doing my part. I have
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  Speaker 3: seven six grandchildren.
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  Speaker 1: Part right there we go because of that.
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  Speaker 3: And they've already they've already effectively killed themselves with their
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  Speaker 3: one child policy. They can't mathematically recover. So yes, they're
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  Speaker 3: a threat, But I believe the longest term existential threat
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  Speaker 3: is the Islamist threat and uh and this birthright citizenship
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  Speaker 3: opens the door there too. Though they're not as organized
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  Speaker 3: or strategic as the communist Chinese are It.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Is Ken Kuchinelli. Go and follow him an election transparency initiative.
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  Speaker 1: What is the website?
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  Speaker 2: Ken?
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  Speaker 1: Is there one? Hey?
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  Speaker 3: Election transparency dot org And I'm at the free bird
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  Speaker 3: at Ken Kochinelli.
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  Speaker 1: Go and check him out right now, Ken, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: the knowledge and thanks for the time. Happy Independence Day.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the early fireworks. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if we can get that thing going.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know how that works. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: We appreciate itent, my man.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk again very soon, Okay, glad to do it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate you. We're back after this. Stay
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: right here.