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Emo Supergroup Fantasy Draft · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Speaker 1: All right, today, we've got a number of guests with
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  Speaker 1: us because we're gonna do an Emo fantasy supergroup draft.
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  Speaker 1: Super excited about this. We've got Lindsay with us, We've
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  Speaker 1: got Jeremy from the Rumors Are True podcast, and we've
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  Speaker 1: got Zach from May. We figured, if we're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: an Emo fantasy draft, you have to at least have
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  Speaker 1: one person who actually knows Emo himself. And so we're like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, we got we gotta bring in Zach, and
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna do a little fantasy. If you are
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  Speaker 1: a somehow if you're still like a reoccurring listener of
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, you probably have heard one of these kind
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  Speaker 1: of episodes where we either do a fantasy draft of
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  Speaker 1: either like a supergroup, or we you know, pick a
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  Speaker 1: number of other kind of fantasy kind of categories. But
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  Speaker 1: today we're gonna specifically do a fantasy supergroup. So these
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  Speaker 1: are basically we're gonna pick our like personal like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is like the best Emo band that could ever
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  Speaker 1: be assembled ever, like the Emo Avengers basically, and so
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna pick a vocalist, a guitarist, a bassist, and
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  Speaker 1: a drummer. We're gonna pick those four, you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of the main instruments of an emo band. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: pick those four and see who can assemble the best
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  Speaker 1: emo group. And at the very end, we're got a
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  Speaker 1: little we'll got a little surprise for you all. We'll
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  Speaker 1: figure out what you're gonna call our band names. So
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  Speaker 1: cullen any rules that we want to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we we have gone over the rules pre recording,
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  Speaker 2: but mainly what we're going to be doing is we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be running through our list of uh the drafters,
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  Speaker 2: and it's going to be snake draft. We will start
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  Speaker 2: with singer, then we will go to drummer, then bassis,
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  Speaker 2: then guitarist. Now then it has to be an emo band,
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  Speaker 2: and we will judge it by is this bandemo dot com?
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  Speaker 1: Uh so the most credible source?
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  Speaker 2: It is em It is the exhaustive source of emo bands.
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  Speaker 2: That is correct.
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  Speaker 1: Also, by the way, what does it say May is
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  Speaker 1: that is May is an emo band? It says also
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  Speaker 1: May is emo? Or it says May is also Indie.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it's Yeah, makes sense?
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  Speaker 3: Can I real quick just say I actually was lying
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  Speaker 3: when I said I knew everybody here and I did
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  Speaker 3: not realize there's he never may here.
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  Speaker 1: Linday, I'm pretty sure I told you.
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  Speaker 3: You told me nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I did.
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  Speaker 2: Mason's no telling anybody.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, Zach for me is right here with
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  Speaker 1: us right now.
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  Speaker 2: Have to be here, lindsay, are you Are you fangirling
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  Speaker 2: right now?
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  Speaker 4: Is that?
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  Speaker 2: Is that? What is that what you're doing? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: You're right. I didn't say. I thought I I thought
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  Speaker 1: I told you sorry about that? All for me is here.
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  Speaker 3: Well done, Mason, Well you said all you said we're
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  Speaker 3: going to be talking about emo music, and I asked
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  Speaker 3: what kind of emo music? And you said, all emo
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  Speaker 3: music is instane.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, surely we have wide categories because we have
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  Speaker 1: indie band May with.
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  Speaker 5: Us, INDIEMA band.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I think Tom Mullen is the one behind uh the
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  Speaker 5: is this band emo website?
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  Speaker 1: He is?
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  Speaker 4: Wait?
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  Speaker 1: Is that the guy that'll wash up email?
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  Speaker 4: He's great?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 5: One time? Yes, that's true. We uh Ellen and I
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  Speaker 5: my wife and I went to see Jimmy World and
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  Speaker 5: Tom Mullen was there and he was sending a few
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  Speaker 5: rows in front of us, and I said hi to him.
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  Speaker 5: In a while we were talking this other fan. This
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  Speaker 5: girl said, are you Tom Tom from the Internet? That
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  Speaker 5: was funny as well, just like the general Internet, it's
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  Speaker 5: just Tom from the Internet.
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  Speaker 1: The Worldwide Web.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Uh So, one of the things you
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  Speaker 1: obviously calling, you're kind of mentioning, like, all right, is
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  Speaker 1: this band emo? So obviously we're gonna use is this
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  Speaker 1: band emo as like the legitimate source, but that could
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  Speaker 1: be a like part of this conversation is you know,
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  Speaker 1: we could pick somebody and maybe somebody else is like,
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  Speaker 1: is that band really even emo? Like? And that could
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  Speaker 1: be part of our debate. And I think that is
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  Speaker 1: what makes this kind of episode exciting and fun as
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  Speaker 1: we get a debate about not only is this a
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  Speaker 1: good pick, but also is this pick even like does
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  Speaker 1: it fit the category? So I love that part of it.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing that I'll mention too is in terms
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  Speaker 1: of our picks, you know, if you're like picking a vocalist,
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  Speaker 1: like that person should primarily be a vocalist in their band, right,
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  Speaker 1: So obviously there are some members of these bands that
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  Speaker 1: maybe like they might play guitar and sing or something
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  Speaker 1: along those lines, but it means, you know, if we
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  Speaker 1: pick them, we have to like pick them within Like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, if they're we're picking them as a vocalist,
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  Speaker 1: it means they're probably the primary vocalist of their band.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's at least worth noting too. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: before we jump into the actual draft, because Colin's got
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  Speaker 1: the order here, I'll just say to kind of give
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  Speaker 1: a little preface of EMO. I think this might be
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  Speaker 1: one of the best genres, if not the best genre
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  Speaker 1: of music, because of how diverse it can be. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you get bands that are super super heavy that are
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  Speaker 1: considered EMO. Like if you literally go on the Emo
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  Speaker 1: Wikipedia page, they're listening bands like Touche a More, which
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  Speaker 1: to me is like basically a like a hardcore band almost.
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  Speaker 1: And you get something like American Football, which is essentially
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  Speaker 1: like an indie band, or you know, obviously could even
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  Speaker 1: include May in there, where it's like this kind of
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  Speaker 1: like indie pop band. The amount of like diversity of
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  Speaker 1: just sound that you get in EMO. And also I
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  Speaker 1: should mention too, like there's a whole group of artists
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  Speaker 1: coming up in EMO that are basically hip hop artists too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and so you also get like this like hip hop
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  Speaker 1: influence in EMO that I think is really cool too.
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  Speaker 1: So just like, the wide diversity of sounds that you
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  Speaker 1: get in EMO is pretty astonishing, And I just don't
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  Speaker 1: know if there's like, at least if you don't think
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  Speaker 1: EMO is the best genre of music that music has
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  Speaker 1: to offer, at least you have to at least have
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  Speaker 1: to say the EMO is probably one of the most
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  Speaker 1: diverse sounding genres of music that music has to off.
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  Speaker 1: So I know way you all think about it.
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  Speaker 5: So you want to first preface this by saying EMO
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  Speaker 5: is a very diverse, wide expanding genre that goes from
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  Speaker 5: hip hop to a band like Moore. A second ago,
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  Speaker 5: you said we're going to be using is this EMAO
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  Speaker 5: website to confine and police what we mean by genre?
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  Speaker 5: So this will be very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: See, I'm going to trust Tom Mullins. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: trust Tom Owlans. He's going to x he's he's going
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  Speaker 1: to assume that both May and Touche Moury are EMO.
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  Speaker 2: According to Tom, is not emo, it's not an.
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  Speaker 1: E Really interesting, all right, Well, Tom, you're defining Wikipedia
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  Speaker 1: because Wikipedia has Touche Moury listed as one of the
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  Speaker 1: more influential EMO.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they also just have growth on there.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Just think that real email only consists of the DC
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  Speaker 3: emotional hardcore scene in the late ninety scream O.
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  Speaker 2: There, there it is. I was gonna say, if you
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  Speaker 2: don't like Emo at the very least, you have to
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  Speaker 2: love the gatekeepy fan bases.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Oh yeah, it's actually I think we need more gatekeepers.
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  Speaker 5: And I looked, I saw the Rolling Stone. I was
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  Speaker 5: looking at EMO list just to kind of chog my memory,
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  Speaker 5: and there are a lot of band I would disqualify
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  Speaker 5: to be an Emo band. So this will be fun
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  Speaker 5: conversation and I'm excited to argue with everyone intentionally.
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  Speaker 1: That's what That's what we're here for. All right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: without a further ado, let's uh, let's get going. What's
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  Speaker 1: the order going to be called?
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  Speaker 2: All right? I have a random wheel with names on it.
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  Speaker 2: I I pulled them. We got Lindsey first, I'm second,
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy is third, Zach is forth, and Mason is fifth.
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  Speaker 2: So will go twice. He will pick singer last, but
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  Speaker 2: he will pick drummer first. So all right, lindsay, sounds great,
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  Speaker 2: you are on the clock.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so what am I like? Which one? Which member?
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry?
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  Speaker 2: Singer or vocalist Stinger.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going with Sally Cider from Rat Boys.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, whoa Okay interesting.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I never heard of that band, and you have
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  Speaker 6: to They're so good.
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  Speaker 5: I believe you that. Jeremy, I've never listened. I never
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  Speaker 5: heard rap Boys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh. They their last single are their
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  Speaker 3: last record, The Window was amazing. They're they put it
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  Speaker 3: out in twenty twenty three and I think Chris Walla
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  Speaker 3: produced it. Oh yeah, So it's just a gorgeous album.
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  Speaker 3: Her voice is like this perfect mixture of like, well,
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  Speaker 3: it just kind of like ranges all over. It's like
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  Speaker 3: a little frail, but it's also very powerful and like
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  Speaker 3: it just works so perfectly for what they're trying to achieve.
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  Speaker 5: So that's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: I yeah, Black Earth, Wisconsin. It is like Mutt, this
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  Speaker 3: is dark that I've said that I want that song
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  Speaker 3: played in my coffin so I can just like never
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  Speaker 3: ever ever be apart from it, like it's not good.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, Julie Seiner.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, lindsay, I've never heard of Rat Boys
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  Speaker 1: in my life, never heard the band name. Looks like
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  Speaker 1: they're playing in Minneapolis. What wait, never mind, that's Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 2: You's still.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully they are coming to where I live
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  Speaker 1: very soon. But yeah, I just have never heard of them.
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  Speaker 1: But I did put them into is this band Emo?
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  Speaker 1: And they are an Emo band? To this band is Emo?
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  Speaker 1: So I'll I'll just go with you on the fact
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  Speaker 1: that she probably is a great singer and uh clearly
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  Speaker 1: an EMO singer. So I can't say she's great or
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  Speaker 1: not great because I just have literally never heard them.
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  Speaker 1: In mind that she existed, don't two minutes ago?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I asked that kind of emo are we talking about?
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  Speaker 3: And Mason said, all Emo. So I took that to hearts.
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  Speaker 2: Very good, very good you did.
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking out there.
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  Speaker 2: It's that none of us have heard it, and I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's on us, can it be?
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  Speaker 5: You know, that's on us other Wikipedia page. And Stephen Hayden,
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  Speaker 5: who's one of uh I like him as a writer,
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  Speaker 5: and he's being named one of the record one of
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  Speaker 5: the best of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Nice, It's fantasmic.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what I will say. You know, maybe the best
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  Speaker 1: argument about this pick, Lindsay, is the fact that in
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  Speaker 1: my life I've always wanted my mom to be able
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  Speaker 1: to say a band name that I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: the band, and that's never happened in my life. My
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  Speaker 1: mom is sixty years old. She's never named a band
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  Speaker 1: ever that I've never heard of in my life. But you,
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay as a mom constantly mentioned band names where I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard this band in my life. So like,
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  Speaker 1: at least, at the very least, like you get the
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  Speaker 1: Coolest Mom Award just because you know so many bands
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  Speaker 1: that like children of moms don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, But to be fair, my children know the rap.
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  Speaker 1: You're representing children. You're like you're the mom of every
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  Speaker 1: child everywhere that has never heard that band, and you
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  Speaker 1: get to represent them all. And I just I'm just saying, like,
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  Speaker 1: you get the cool Mom Award because of that, Thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much.
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  Speaker 3: My kids no Rat Boys so well, So I'm just
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  Speaker 3: gonna go ahead and say that right now.
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  Speaker 1: But I bet they found out about rat Boys because
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  Speaker 1: of you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I never stopped playing.
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  Speaker 1: What I would have died to like actually, like my
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  Speaker 1: mom introduced me to good music. I mean, I'm still
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  Speaker 1: waiting for that moment, and that probably will never happen.
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  Speaker 1: She'll just go to her grave without moment and that
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  Speaker 1: probably will never do music to me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god, what's her email address?
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  Speaker 1: I've got her back t Pelosi at.
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  Speaker 2: Mason's mom looks like Nancy Pelosi and I make fun
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  Speaker 2: of her about it all the time.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, great pick, Lindsay, I just haven't never read a
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  Speaker 1: good pick.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, So all right, I am next and you
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  Speaker 2: know well dot Com.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks m h fuck.
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay, you're gonna hate this pick. You're gonna hate it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I do. I hate it so much.
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  Speaker 1: From n because I know that's what he's going And
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't until I saw them for the first time
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  Speaker 1: live that really so much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that new album just really takes it to
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  Speaker 2: another level. The new album is. I think it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: easily number one on my list this year.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'm not going to fight you because you didn't
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  Speaker 6: pick out so much, you know, I'm sure it's a
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  Speaker 6: fantastic Yeah yeah wait wait wait who's this?
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  Speaker 5: Who is who's the singer? What's the singer?
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  Speaker 2: Same? Connor Murphy?
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  Speaker 5: Connor Murphy Okay.
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  Speaker 1: From what band boxing?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I've heard it.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, yeah, you're what a what a
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  Speaker 1: great pick? I mean, I can't argue anything about that. Obviously.
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  Speaker 1: I literally texted you saying, this might be the best
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  Speaker 1: vocalist I've ever heard live after I saw them play
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  Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. Was that like one or two months ago? Unbelievable?
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  Speaker 6: Is the is the new record the one I need
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  Speaker 6: to check out? Because I definitely record?
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  Speaker 1: Is it the one that you need to check out?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 1: I will say, like they are a band where like
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  Speaker 1: if you listen to the first stuff and listen even
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  Speaker 1: to their like most like the not this recent record,
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  Speaker 1: but the album before, it's basically like an electronic indie
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  Speaker 1: pop album.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the fact that they went to this like post
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  Speaker 1: rock style, it's just it's it like throws you for
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  Speaker 1: a loop where you're like, wait, this is the same bands?
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  Speaker 2: Awesome?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: And I think it just like is a testament to
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  Speaker 1: how great of musicians they all are, but specifically Connor
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  Speaker 1: and his vocal range to be able to like sing
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  Speaker 1: like an indie pop artist, like something like David Bowie
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  Speaker 1: type of singing, to then go into basically the most
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  Speaker 1: like guttural kind of post rock kind of screams you've
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  Speaker 1: ever liked. Cody is almost like pretty impressive, almost.
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  Speaker 2: Like Cody Bunnett type screaming I love him sweetie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really impressive.
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  Speaker 3: When I saw his side band, Smithley, they did a
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  Speaker 3: cover of California by saying the planet and yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: had really a son and I just like I every
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  Speaker 3: time I watched the which I do a lot. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: I just kind of wish that was Connor Murphy singing hell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah, I love all right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Connor Murphy one of a kind.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They are a band where, you know, obviously they do
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  Speaker 1: well for themselves, are fine, but they I think just
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  Speaker 1: based on his talent performance as a vocalist, he should
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  Speaker 1: be bigger. Yeah, especially knowing now that he can scream
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  Speaker 1: the way he can swim. It's just like, how is
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  Speaker 1: this guy not one of the most in one of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest bands in the world just because of his
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  Speaker 1: vocal talent alone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: Next up, great pick. I feel I just feel bad
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  Speaker 1: that I can't pick him, but it's great pick. Collen
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  Speaker 1: can't argue against it.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck you, You're welcome. Next up is Jeremy.
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  Speaker 6: I am going back to the nineties because I'm forty
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  Speaker 6: six years old and I'm going and.
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  Speaker 5: Dad I don't hate me my guy, Jeremy Enoch.
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  Speaker 4: From Sunny Day Really yeah, you know it was gonna happen.
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  Speaker 5: It's gonna go first round.
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  Speaker 6: Are vocalist, Yes, vocals, because his vocals are everything in
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  Speaker 6: that band, I mean the you know, the music's incredible.
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  Speaker 5: And if I didn't even put Jeremy Enich on my list,
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  Speaker 5: because there's no.
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  Speaker 2: Way that you were going to get it be able
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  Speaker 2: to pick that guy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, I yeah, I mean that band when I
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  Speaker 6: discovered them blew my mind.
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  Speaker 1: They still blow my mind. And I saw them recently.
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  Speaker 6: Assisted and then Gainesville recently, and they're on another level,
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  Speaker 6: like another level, Like I mean, I probably didn't seen
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  Speaker 6: them six times, seven times, And that guy's a monster.
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  Speaker 5: No, that's an undeniable pick. I think that his voice
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  Speaker 5: is like an instrument in itself, is where he uses.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's no there could be no there can
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  Speaker 5: be no challenge to this, to this pick, I don't think, thank.
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  Speaker 1: You, not at all. It would have been one of
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  Speaker 1: my top picks. What I love about Jeremy in it
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Enich is the fact that he like it doesn't matter
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: if it's an emo song that he's singing in it
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: could be his own like solo acoustics.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: That's amazing.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: If you hear Jeremy like he could do opera, And
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: if you hear his voice, you know it's him. He's
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: one of those voices where it's just so distinctive to
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: him that nobody else sounds quite like him, So unbelievable.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: I'll also add that I think one of the best
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: moments of Me Without You. I think it's their second
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: record was a Brother's Sister.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh Porky Park.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when when he sings, when he comes in on
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: that song, it's just like insanity to me.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like a lot I feel like a
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: lot of the and this is a side note, but
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of the guest vocals he's
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: ever done, like Poor Oldloo, you know, like you mentioned
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: Me Without You and other ones that he's been on.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: It's been like it's changed the song in a good way.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Like you know, he's just got that it factor comes
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: to vocals.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know what it is about his voice.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: He just has a voice that just is able to
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: it's just so unique. You just know it's him.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I'll fight back on it only on this on this
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: just because I have to be contrary to some extent, right,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I think he's a better guitarist than he is a
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: better vocalist.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: What Yeah, when I think, I think everybody else in
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the world is going to disagree with you.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: When I think of Sunday Day Real Estate, what I
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: hear first in my head is the guitar hooks and
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: the guitar struct.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Well, you're hearing it wrong, because I the first thing
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: everybody else hears is during unique.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Tell me that my experience is wrong again Mason, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: see what happens.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: You've never lived his experience. Well, I mean, I I
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: don't agree, but that's why I also I also don't
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: agree that the guitar work in Sunday Real Estate. It's
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: also you know, amazing, But yeah, I think that does
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: a thing like that's also Dan honor and of him
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: that as well.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Definitely so.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: But also on that note, you go to any anyone
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: and in that band.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: So yeah, anyway, very good, unbelievable band. Jeremy Enich, next level,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: great picture. And a side note, my middle name is
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Allen and his middle name is Allen and spelled the
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: same way.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Literally no in fact, one l with an ayah.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: One time I said it that to him and he's like.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I've got worthy only two Jeremy Allens. And I was like, well,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: there's one that is well, I guess he doesn't spell
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: it the same way. But there's another Jeremy Ellen that
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: might be a little bit more popular.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Now, Jeremy Allen light, I have no care that from him.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Have you got there?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even know that's his name. I thought
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: his name was Bear.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: No, well his name is Karme in the show.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: But okay, okay, I've watched the first season.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't tell if he's good looking or bad looking. Yes,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: every scene I see him, is he good looking or
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: is he bad looking? Because sometimes I'm like yes, and
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like no, let.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Me clarify, he's he's bisexual good looking, where like it's
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: it's on a different realm, so like the girls get it.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Wait, are you saying the bisexual like continuum is like
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a much greater continuum than the straight continuum.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that, like typically bisexual, I.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Guess it's it's less picky or what.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Well, scrawny guys who look like they might be a
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: little mean to you, like are like maybe might judge
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: your music a little bit or something. I feel like
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: that's where like the guys that I that's hot a
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: little bit. Not that I like conversationally, no, but so
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: like appearance, like yeah, yeah, but that's not.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Jeremyeland White though, right, I mean I think he's pretty bill,
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: you know, and that are kind of.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, well, like he's got he's got the like,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you know, tattoos that make him look like he's pretentious
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: if they.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Look like they wear a converse to the gin. I'm in.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: That. Like, I love this information. I'm so glad that
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: this is getting on the internet.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: High top converse or low top. That's a big difference.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Low top or maybe the ends blacks the ends. This
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: is a very specific type.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: I know you're married, but your tender profile will be
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: wild and oh yeah.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: There's a reason why I got married at the ages
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: plenty of one, and I've never looked back. It's because
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know how I would approach the dating world.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think i'd be good at it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: It's cure enough, fair enough, that is funny. All right,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: we gotta we gotta get moving.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back to the nineties of well, I'm
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: forty three, and I don't know why that's relevant, but
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: I guess I'm just saying that solidarity Jeremy in the forties,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: and I'm gonna pick Blake Schwarzenbach Woo.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Nig good pick from Wow just to.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: Brazil, I'm saying just Brazil. Jawbreaker and Jets are both
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: listed as emo bands, but I'm gonna pull specifically from
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: the Blake from Just Brazil era. I think his voice
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: is proletarian, like it's just like, you know, super gritty.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: It's not too it's like the opposite of Jeremy Enox
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: in that sense. But I've always kind of been just
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: kind of drawn that voice, and I I like all
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: of Just Frizil's records from more in Driving through Perfecting Loveliness.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: So that's my pick.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: And come on, I'm not gonna find that's a great pick.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: That you called it proletarian. That is so like you
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: that's true.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's just gonna like he's been working all
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: day and yellow people, you know.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that has actually opened up like a whole new
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: like uh sub section of vocalists in my mind now,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: like now I'm putting like Dave Bison in that same
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: category and people like that, you.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: Know, oh yeah, yeah, and he plays all instrument.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: If it's somebody I could sing with, that to me
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: is like prototypical, like that person punches in and out everything.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That's why I like me. Without you, I felt, I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: felt not only could I sing with Aaron Weis, I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: feel like we would have been like co workers.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can totally see that. I don't think.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think Aaron Wis to be able to hold
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: down the regular.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Job though he's a right that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like I mean like working with your
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: hands kind of job.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll be honest. When I interviewed him for
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: my Tooth and Nail Paper for aar, he was literally
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: trying to both hold his phone and build an irrigation
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: system in his family farm at the same time. He
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: was like, I just don't think I can do this
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: at the same time, and I was like, well, I
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: don't only I don't only have so much time, so
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you might just have to like give up an hour
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of your day. And so he actually was able to
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: talk to me, but he was trying to do both initially.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: That sounds perfectly. That's like, if someone were to say,
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: if it's give me a multiple choice about what Aaron
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: would be doing or trying to do in an interview,
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: that would be the one I would pick.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I mostly just can't believe he has a phone. Like
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: that's what's really blowing my.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Mind in this story I was at and he's I'll
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: be honest, I wish even more so than his phone,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: he's a great emailer, Like he emails back within like
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours. I was shocked by them.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: That's amazing. The same me heroes for sure.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it has to be a learned trade. After
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, he's probably grading papers and then
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: getting them in like the next semester or whatever, and
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: then he probably gets slapped on the hand enough they're like,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: all right, you actually gotta you gotta email back students
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: earlier than that too, you know, so all right it's
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: my turn.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's your turn.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Also, Zach, by the way, great pick uh. Yeah, I
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: like my only argument against Jets Brazil is yeah, I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: mean he sort of does have kind of like the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: voice that you would generally hear in that world. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: also as much as Jetster to jets To Brazil is
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a hugely influential email band. I don't know if they're
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: like quite huge enough for a lot of people to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: like know who they are. Now that's not to say
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that they you shouldn't pick them, but it is to say,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: like if other people were to like vote on us
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: on our picks, like that might be like a little
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: downside is like a lot of people are like, who's
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Jetster Brazil?
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, you can't. Okay, well that's you just
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: tag that on at the end before you take your pick.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: I have to defend myself. He's also the singer.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Defend yourself.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: He's also the singer Jowbreaker, like he's legacy by Yeah,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: yeah I get that, and so yes, maybe someone go ahead.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I was just saying, I do think that you should
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: be picking people that everybody knows. I'm just gonna go
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: on that right here.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: If you don't know Jawbreaker, I think you're missed up. Yeah,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just just flat out wrong here.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah I agree.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: Well, okay, okay, but hold on, so is this going
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: to apply all sort of drummers, like in bass players.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, if someone says, oh, this bass player no
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: one's gonna there's a there's probably some chance someone's gone
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: not gonna able to name. Yeah, there's there's that you
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: can unless. Yeah, but vocalists that makes sense only to
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: a point though, And also.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: They are they are an appro that is an appropriate pick.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And also I'm just saying, like I could see the
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: argument being who.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Is that guy?
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Well, I need see the argument being google it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: If you're getting any if you're getting any email music,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have some obscure artists, and like, yeah, and
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: this is is not an obscure artist, you're Yeah, fair enough.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I'm a good point because I haven't heard of rat Boys.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: This is the first.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, this is a crime. By the way,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I'm so mad about this, but it's okay.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: And it's on me. I mean, that's not me. I
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: just haven't you.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Take it? All right? My turn wrong? All right? Well,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I do think I do you think Jeremy Enock would
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: have been probably my top para? Uh? And and since uh,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: since I do get the last pick of the singers,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to mention maybe a couple that I would have.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: You don't get to do that. We do that at
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the end, all right, can I guess for you before
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: you go, Before you guess.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Let's hear it. You're probably can be wrong, but let's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: hear it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna say this. If if you don't
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: pick this, you're wrong.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: How about Chris Christie from Apple CA?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, So I was thinking about.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Him, man, I was close, but I was sniffing around
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: the right.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about him. I was thinking about him.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: He is in my list. But I am also trying
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: not only am I trying to like get people or
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: like trying to pick people where like you know them,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: they're good, you know all of those. I'm trying to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: assemble a band here, right, Like I'm trying to assemble
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to I'm not trying to pick like
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the American football guitarists and then like trying to get
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Spencer Chamberlain or whatever, like that's not gonna work. I'm
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: trying to actually form a legit band here. So my
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: so I'm trying to figure out, like who's going to
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: be like a good like range of a person that
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: can just like kind of do a little bit of everything.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So my pick, Mike, and I did look this up
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: on is it emo, So it is an emo band.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to pick Dustin Kencer from Thrice.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: So that's a good pick. That's a good pick for sure.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And again you're I think Dustin is going to make
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: more sense as I go through some of my other
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: picks here. But I think, and just from a vocalist standpoint, obviously,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: he can do some of those screams really well, both
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: like the higher screams, the more guttur all stuff. But
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: then he's just got this like gravelly voice that just
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: sings so well. Yeah, and can do a lot of
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: emo kind of sounding music really well. So I mean,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: is he the best emo vocalist ever? I don't know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: maybe there's some other folks, but I think, just like
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: with what the kind of band I'm going to try
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: to assemble here, he fits really well. SOA and people
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: obviously know who Thrice is, and according to Tom Thrice's EMAILO,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: we'll go with it. I think he's a fantastic vocalist.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, I you know, I'm again I'm old, so
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: I definitely I just got to see Thrice and kind
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: of when they were rising, which was cool when I
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: was booking shows, so definitely got to witness them, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: I can honestly say, from my perspective, I just thought
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: he was a phenomenal songwriter. His vocals are insane. I
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: totally agree with this pick man. I think it's a
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: fantastic pick man. This guy's just he's a He's a
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: mover and shaker for real.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I will say what I love about all of our picks,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: even though I don't know Lindsay's band very well, but
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I would imagine this is the case all of our
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: lead singers, and this is pretty uncommon for like the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: emo world. All of our singers don't seem to have
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: like the lead singer syndrome wells, which is pretty impressive.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: That's just that's how it is an emo world.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Though I think, yeah.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: No, I I think I think there's probably like you
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: can't you're telling me that my chemical romance lead singer syndrome.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: That's I like that point on. I like that challenge
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: right there, And this is something what Yeah, I don't
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: think my I would not categorize Mike chim as an emo.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Band right now, not fired.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: All right, let's check it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: What does Tom say? What does Tom say?
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: I literally have a book on the cut on the
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: history of emo music, and he's.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: On the Chemical Romance is not an emo band, unlike
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: high School is history longer than for.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: They are the pioneers and even diehard Mike cam fan,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: but like they they were like the pioneers of the
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: two movement.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: M Okay, you're telling me that Mike Conselli or make
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: consell or whatever his name is from American football. You're
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: telling me he doesn't have lead singer syndrome.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: I don't, I don't know.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't making a blanket statement as in,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: like everyone doesn't have it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, I'm just saying, if there's a genre
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: that has like clear clear lead lead singer syndromes, it
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: is I'm gonna be what the hell's.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Lead singer syndrome.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Lead singer syndrome is when a lead singer walks into
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the room and he believes or she believes that they
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: are the most important person. Okay, all right, They don't
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: have to help with load him, They don't have to
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: help with load out. They they drink their water, They
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: stay quiet in the corner, and they, okay, bitch and
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: moan about all the sound and all that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I know one of those, and I worked with one
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: of those many years ago. Names. Well I will not
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I will not there. Well, there is one I would
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: have had. I'll mention him in honorable mentions. But there's
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: one that I know. I've heard stories. He is for
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: sure lead singer, like he might be like the definition
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: of lead singer syndral well ahead.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I was just gonna say, like the one
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: that I would shock me if he did. And I
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: know that, Like, you can't really put a perception on people,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: but like Jim Adkins from from Jimmy World, they're like
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: every interview you read from those guys like I think
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: he might be the best guy in the world.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agree, And he's like like.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: The lead singer of email music, like all together, like.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. He is the He's the trifecta.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, you kid, Sorry, I did not mean to
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: cut off.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: All right, any other arguments against Dustin Kencrew.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: No, no one's gonna say a word about Dozin.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I've got so many bad He might be the nicest
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: guy ever did be. Yeah, way nicer than me. I
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: can assure you.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: That is true. All right, to uh, we got drummers,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: We're getting I'm Actually, I'm really grateful that I got
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: my top lead singer, and I'm about to get to
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: my top drummer. Uh all right, Well, so my drummer
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: might be the most creative sounding drummer for at least
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. Okay, like I would know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I would legitimately say, especially with specifically within alternative music,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: for sure, most creative drummer, arguably maybe one of the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: most creative drummers of the last twenty five years, regardless
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: of dramro Uh. But my and I'm gonna pick him
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: obviously because he's a drummer. But he can't sing if
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: he needs to, if I need him in my band.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Please.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Drummle, I mean, how can I not Pickie?
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: I don't like it?
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: What what version of are we talking about?
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Almost?
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, just think of un under.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Road is not an evil band under.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: All right, let's see what Let's see what Tom says
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: under a conviction. Oh, it says not an emo band.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: But if you go on Wikipedia, under oath has cited
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a million times under even.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: The almost the almost also.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Is not Okay, well they're almost all right, let's see
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: let's see. Okay, on the.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Rules were that if you if you if you picked
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: a band that was not an EMO band, you have
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to wait till the end.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Now, okay, well the rules are No, I'm going to
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: make them up as I go.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: We're already talked under.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Under a is listed, we talked on the on the
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Emo page of Wikipedia.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Mason, what did we say? I'm just saying, I'm just
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: saying what do we say the rules were?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying scream O, Hawthorne Heights, Story of the Year,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: under Oath, and an Alexis on Fire. Four bands frequently featured
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: on MTV have properized scream Oh, let's see here. Uh,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: there's four other there's three other times that they are
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: cited in Wikipedia to meet emo band. Jeremy also, are
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: we saying that the almost isn't emo?
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Jeremy, Zach and lindsay.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Literally the top genre almost is emo on Wikipedia.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Vote because Mason's arguing a point that we already talked
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: about wasn't gonna fly, right, So let's take a vote.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Should Mason, should we allow Mason to have Eric Lesbie
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: or should we say no? And uh, We'll have him
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: pick at the end of all of us.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: Look I'm just saying that under Oath is not an
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: emo band. That my content I would agree. I think
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: that moving the goalpost from is this band emo to
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Wikipedia is a big move because Wikipedia has some batship
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: bands included.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they also included a pack attack what the like?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: May that's I don't stick my.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: B I'm just going to go the record and say
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I think they're emo. I think they're heavily emo, and
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I think that they're probably what I mean, like I
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: came of age at like the two thousand and four
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: to like two thousand and nine EMA, like that was
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: a huge band in that scene. Yeah, I just I
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: don't know. I think they're emo. And I also think
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: that you can't be on like a Tooth and Nail
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: podcast and be like, oh, they're not an emo. But
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just gonna stay that right now.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: We don't know affiliate. I don't think.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I don't think they're an emo band.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I think Aaron Gillespie is a really fine person.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: So for whatever that works.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: You know, all right, three out of two?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: All right, Oh great, I don't I don't remember Jeremy
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: or Lindsay voting. So Lindsay, are you in.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Lindsay just said they were emailing.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I did say that I'm not voting for Mason. To
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: be right, that's not what I'm voting for. But I
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: am gonna vote that those website's wrong.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Well, the vote is on whether under Oath is EMO.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: And you're saying under Oath is EMO. I'm saying under
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Oath is emo. Jeremy is saying he likes Aaron Gillespie.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: That counts as EMO.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: So all right, let's pause. Okay, So Lindsay, you're saying
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: past Mason, you're gonna say he can move on and
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: use Aaron Gillespie. Oh yes, you're passing him on. You're
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: saying he can. Okay, Jeremy, how about you.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Damn I hate pressure.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: Uh you know what, because you've been so kind to me, Mason,
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to say no.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: He's gonna.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: No.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: I actually listen, I don't think. I want to make
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: this very clear. I do not think Under Oath is
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: an EMO band. But I was not going to pick
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: Aaron Gillespie. So it doesn't hurt me at all if
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: you pick Iron Gillespie. That let's say that.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, So you're saying, no, we're not passing him, right, No,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: we'll go ahead and pass him just just for the
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: sake of this, because obviously I'm not I'm not all right.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Three out of two Democracy whens again Democracy in a
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: week from You.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Don't vote, Zach, go ahead, Oh.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: My vote is no. I'm an under is not an
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: emo band. And if we include if we include under
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: Oath as an emo band, then like I don't know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: it becomes this kind of like you know, free for all.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: If under Oath is not an emo band, this I
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: know a hardcore band.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: My wife does know who who under Oath is. She
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: doesn't know about most of other bands. I will ask
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: her and that will be the deciding factor because I'm
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: obviously a no.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Okay, I mean, that's your your podcast. I'm here one one.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just spitting the truth one half of his podcast,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: the truth.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: If under Oath is an emo then why was my
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: boyfriend through my emo phase going under the handle of
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: boy brushed red. I'm just asking that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: She said she said.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: That, Oh, good fucked callin yep, yep, all right, I'll
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: tell you.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: There you go, Daniel stuck up for you on a podcast.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: That's funny.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Love that all right, Well, Aaron Gillespie, that's my pick.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you argue against it now, since
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: clearly he's email.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I think I think we've quite clearly argued against it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Just fine.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I just I just like even if you don't think
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Under Oath is an EMO band, Like, just think of
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Aaron Gillespie himself. Like if you think back in two
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: thousands six at the height of Emo, and you don't
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: think Aaron gi Lespie and you don't associate that with Emo,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: just him as a personality. Like, I don't know what
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you're thinking in two thousands.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I just think of redneck.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Now, how is are we going to sell.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: Here?
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: That's way across one eye.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just being I'm just being contrilled.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: Look if we're going on vibes and let me know,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: because I.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Think I feel like that's most of Emo though, right,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: All I mean, it's just like this is gonna be
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: a situational uh you know, draft where every person it
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: don't have to go up against the High Court.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Here's here's my argument about and and this is where
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I think Tom is wrong about Under Oath not being
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: an EMO band. Here's where under Oath, I think excel
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and part of the reason why Under Oath got so
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: big was the fact that they could combine both like
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: hardcore breakdowns, but their hardcore breakdowns weren't like chug a
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: chug a chugga like rifts. It was literally an emo
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: riff that somehow like Aaron Gillespie and that whole crew
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: were able to figure out, like how can we make
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: this sound into a big heavy breakdown? But it's literally
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: an emo sounding riff. It sounds like something from Thursday. Yeah,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and that would be my argument, like they are literally
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: making Emo sounds. They just happened to be heavier than
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: every other emo band.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: That's fine.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: It's like imagining he imagine an emo band having like
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: a hardcore type of like beatdown of a breakdown.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Under Oath.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: That's that's chasing safety, that's that's UH define their great line.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I think we came into this whole thing with the UH,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: with the stipulation that we're gonna go off of is
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: this bandemo dot com and UH and you quite clearly
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: went against those those those rules.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Well Tom doesn't know what he's talking about. Clearly.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: It's funny because at the beginning, you said he definitely does,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: and now you're saying he doesn't. So looky you met flip.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Flapper sound like Kamala Harris, flip flopping.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Like Trump on abortion, brutal personal to public life. Huh
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: all right, I love it.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, So that's that's my that's my
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: drummer pick. All right, that's been way too long of
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: an argument. I'm gonna have to edit that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Then that was great?
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna leave you going
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: upstairs to toxic your wife. All right, I think is
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: uh is zach Na.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Okay. I have two picks ready because I might get
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: challenged on the first one, so I'm just gonna.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Go with it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: I am going to select Mike Marsh. Yeah, who is
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: the drummer, who was the drummer on Dat fork Professionals
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: the places we've come to fear the most. And that's
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: my first pick. And let me know if this is
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: going to be challenged. I know we talked about no
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: ability a few minutes ago. I'm not sure many people
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: are going to be able to know who Mike Marsh
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: is by name, but I think his drumming as a
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: drummer in general, but as a drummer in particular on
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: places we come to fear the most killer record, killer drummer.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: So I'm going that's my.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Pick for I find that impossible to argue against.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: He's great. He plays for the av Brothers.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Now I think does he really?
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he's incredible, like on their records or just
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: touring guys the're live.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: I think he might do records, but I know it's.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got to check that out.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's I have not I will not fight that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: I think he's let's staple in terms of, you know,
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: just that at that time he was just a phenomenal drummer.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, I mean it's weird.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: It's and you play we played on that dashboard records
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: like you can't like get any bigger than that.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just one of those things where that bad
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: record in terms of you know, the image runners, you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: it's firmly in that legacy, in that tradition.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: So uh yeah, that's that's my pick.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: And uh yeah, yeah, perfect pick. Uh. No arguments for me, lindsay,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: do you have any arguments or anything to add to that?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I do not.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, Jeremy, you are next, good sir.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna pick And I don't know if I'm not
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: a drummer at all, but I think this particular drummer
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: has been on a lot of great records that I love,
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: and he is to me just a And I know
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: people take the word solid is not a good thing,
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: but he is a solid drummer to me, And I
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: just think for me, it's just he's just one of
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: those that I've always loved and been a fan of.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Zach from Jimmy World, Was it leaned?
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: He sorry, dude, Like he is so good and like
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: he's been consistent over the years, and I just think, like,
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's just one of those I mean, like
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: I said, I'm not a drummer, so I don't know
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: what it takes, but he's just like one of those
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: dudes I think just brings it every time.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been great and that he's never had to
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: reinvent the wheel, but yet he is so many people's
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: inspiration to pick up drum sticks and start beating on
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: some skins. Uh, one of the best groove guys. I
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: think that there is Zach. What were you gonna say?
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: No, I think that the great saying about his drumming
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: is that his pills are they're like hooks, They're they're
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: hooks in the song. Like, He's not someone that kind
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: of does his approach to phills makes you remember the
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: pills if you think about the things he does are
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: like Lucky didn't erment. He does the same fill at
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: the same locations, but they become this kind of hookey
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: thing in your head. And I think that is a
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: really unique characteristic of the drumming. So I'm totally I'm
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: totally end on Zach Lund.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get kind of almost like a like a
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Ringo Star of the Emo world kind of vibe.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: He's yeah, he's very, very very.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Creative, but not reinventing the wild, just just just really
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: really great in every way. Very musical.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: He's uh, you know, they say, you know, he's just
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: one of those like if you have a bad drummer,
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: you probably have a bad band. He's just that solid,
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: that solid guy. I mean like, yeah, yeah, I feel
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: like any any band he would play in I think
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: would be amazing.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: He's insanely humble too. I've I've heard some interviews with
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: him where he's like when I started and still to
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: this day, I didn't and I don't know how to
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: play drums. That's literally what he says. Like, I mean,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: he's like I think he said he's like a guitarist first,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: that's incredible. Or he thinks about dramas like like guitar,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: which is a foreign thought to me. I don't I
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: don't quite understand that. But very interesting man. Altogether, I
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: think when's he anything to say or or amazing?
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: The best thing about Zach is he's a. He likes theology,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: which is cool.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that he's a.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: He's really and uh he listened to Homebird Christianity. He's
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: a regular listener of Homebird Christianity. So that's kind of cool. Nice.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Well, you should talk to Trip and have him have
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: him I've I've tried to multiple times and it just
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: hasn't worked out, but I've tried to make it happen.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I think I've emailed him once or twice.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I've I do remember us doing that now that I
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: think about it.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Trips. So Trip's son has literally his like guitar
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: or his his drum teacher is Zach's Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: like literally takes drum lessons from Zach. Just hasn't worked out,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: but yeah, Zach, Zach seems to be a really great guy.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Uh, Jeremy, good pick, I got no arguments. That's my
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: that's my Holy Grail band right there, all right? I
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: am next. I think this is the hardest category in
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: emo music because really, there are so many good drummers,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, so many like brilliantly nuanced drummers in
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: my opinion. I just I'm always flabbergasted when I think
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: about the emo world and the drummers that are involved.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna pick someone that I think is a
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: little out of left field, someone that I think people
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: would not generally think of picking. And I'm I adore
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: this band. I'm gonna pick Mark Trombino from Drive Like Jay.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: Who Oh that's a good pick. Wow, that's a good pick.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I think Drive Like Jay who is insanely underrated. I
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: think that we were inspirational to so many people, so
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: many different genres, so many different bands. And I think
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: that Mark Trombino is a great example of of a
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: guy who brings it like like, like Jeremy said, just
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: a moment ago, but like it feels like he's at
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent all the time, maybe one hundred and
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: ten percent. And again he's not reinventing the wheel, but man,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: his fills are like are just chaotic and wild. But
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: then immediately back into the groove and he sits right
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: back in there. I love it. I love it, And
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: of course I think we have to talk about his like,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: you know, production career, which is yeah, I mean, he's
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: basically the man behind the scenes in the emo world,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: as well as a couple of other different worlds. But
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he's a legend in in the
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: product music production world, so there's also that. So maybe
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: he can maybe he can produce this, this supergroup's record.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: At the same time, Oh, he's a that's that's a
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: deep cut.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: It is a deep cut.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: I like that.
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: Pick I love Mark Trembiina, you know doing Clarity and
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: Stag Prevails from Jimmy World.
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: Those are classics in my mind and Bleed American.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's right for you know, it's funny you
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: say that, And then I think he actually did Futures
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: and then they redid it with Gil Norton, which is
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: crazy to think. Yeah, but yeah, I mean he's a
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: phenomenal producer and drummer, and yeah, Drive.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: Is a great band.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah I'm I'm you got no qualms with me?
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: Yep, totally.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: It's a great pick. Awesome, Lindsey. Back to you guitarists,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: no drummer, drummer.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be so honest. I am like really bad
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: at picking apart individual pieces of music, So like, if
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: my picks suck, I'm so sorry. But also I'm not
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I'm here to just fight. So I'm gonna go with
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Ricky from You Without You.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Very good.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be on my list as well.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Let's see what the sort of semi questionable does say
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: mean Without You is an emo if Me without You
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: is an emo band under oath, there's one hundred percent
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: of emo band.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: Why nay said, we're not gonna go back I don't
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: agree a way. We can't go back there.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: We cannot go back there.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, great, great pick, Lindsay. Ricky's awesome.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I think all of my friends that I
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: know that that play drums, they all say I saw
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Me Without You once and I watched the drummer the
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: entire time, and I was blown away. And it made
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: them want to play drums.
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: You know, I love how high.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: He's just on a stool too.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: He's like so high. Yeah, you know it's powerful drummer.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Well, he Almoso has a super low kit, Like he
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: keeps his kit very flat and very low, almost like
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: a like an old school jazz trap drummer.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Uh and uh.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: What I also like is that he's very theatrical behind
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: the kit when yeah, like he doesn't like they have
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: obviously like me, I thought he has like a lot
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: of like breaks and stuff like that where there's you know,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: some like musical textures going on where there's no drumming involved,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: and he'd like it's almost like he's in like this
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: like sweet spiritual trance of some sort. I love it.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Lindsay, what do you love about Ricky?
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: I just no, I just I think that he's like
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: very like he moves effortlessly across sounds and stuff like
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm so bad at like taking apart different musical aspects.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: And if I would have known what this podcast would
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: have been, I would have like actually researched this a
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: little bit more. But I wasn't given out luxury. But
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: I just I know what they I know, what they've
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: been like a hugely influential, like their drumming has been
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: hugely influential for a lot of different musicians and such.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it it really is.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just like yeah, you know, go ahead, lindsay uh,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Like I just.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Think about like the intro of so many of their
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: songs where it's like just a very defining sound for
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: them too.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, and that's kind of like what I was
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: about to say is in the same way, Jeremy Aik
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: kind of has this like very just distinct sounding voice.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I've and I think I've even told you this culin
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: out of especially out of the Tooth and Nail catalog.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Ricky's drumming is so distinct. I think I would put
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: like Aaron Gillespie up there of just he just sounds
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: different than other drummers, but I would put Ricky up
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: there as just he just his drums sound different than
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: other drummers. And so when you hear Ricky drum, you
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: just know that, oh, that's that's Ricky for me without you,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: because he just drums so differently than everybody else. So
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: he just has a very distinct sound in that way.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: And That's one of the things I've always appreciated about Ricky,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: and maybe the rest of Me Without You was kind
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: of that way where you know, Aaron's got a distinct
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: sounding voice, there are guitarists kind of play in this
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: very free ranging kind of way that is very distinct sound,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: and that maybe that's part of the reason why people
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: love Me Without You, is everybody's kind of in this
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: free ranging, distinct sound and they mesh it well together.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: But Ricky especially, he just is able to control that
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: group and a way where he sounds unique but is
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: able to like keep everybody together. I just I think
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Ricky's great in that way, and that's a hell of
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: a pick.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Awesome though. All right, well Lindsay, it's back to you
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: right away. For bass.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Basis, Oh my god, this is another one that I'm
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: going to do really bad at, which is why I'm
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: currently on the Wikipedia page.
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: And Andre Oats is not an emo band.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: I'm not going under I'm going this is what it's
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: really I'm really my husband with Killy because he's like
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: a bass player and he's really good at noticing bass lines.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: I am not necessarily, but I'm going to just go
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: with Matt from Joyce my anner.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like whoa okay, yeah, Like I.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Feel like that's the very distinctivet part of their sound.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: It's just like kind of that punky sort of based
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: So that's gonna be mine.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: I do know who that is.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do know how.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Joice the enter is. That's awesome like that.
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not no no objections. I'm going to see
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: what Tom.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Are you googling?
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Are you like I guarantee you it's a yes, Yes,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: I know Tom half as well as I think I do.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: He'll say, joins Man, here's an emo band.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, Yeah, just solid all around. All right.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Well I'm next, and we are on Bassis. This one's tough.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: I think, Hm, maybe it's just my ear, but I
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: feel like Bassis really don't get too crazy when it
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: comes to emo music in general.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Uh h, I was about to say this, Colin, I
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: swear to god, we're one of it's almost like best
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: friends or or you know, potentially married or something like
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: we're on flesh or something.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: You know. It's uh, it'sible, But.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I was about to say the same thing where like
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like emo has like has stand out
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: basis in the same way that like Funk would it.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's obviously the music is structured around base, right right.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: That that I think that's part of it, right. But
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Emo just like I'm trying to think of like really
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: really good bassis who stand out, even like transcend Emo,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: there's not a ton of them.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: There's really not like there.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's like mostly if there's a really good
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: basis in Emo, it's just like they really just fit that.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just hold it. They hold it down really well.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: That thing really well.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: But I think I found the one. I think I
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: found the one that does stand out. This is the guy.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: This is a guy that is is I would say,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: a kind of the lead melody in most of their songs.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Kerry McDonald from Christy front Drive good, very very interesting.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I love that man like melodic parts that he takes on.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Oftentimes he's like the first instrument you hear, which is
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: not common for uh for bass and especially an email. Sure,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: but I I love him. I think he does a
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: great job. I love Christy frond Drive, another band that
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: is I think criminally underrated. Yes, yeah, just uh just
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: a great, great group all around. And I think that
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Carrie is really the heart and soul of that of
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: that band.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: My so great pick, and also my only argument is
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Christy front Drive only released one studio album, so there's
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: like a very limited selection of what we have available
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: as in terms of his like base plan.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: That's why he needs to be in that. That's why
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: he needs to be in the supergroup because he needs
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: to put.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Up more music.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, Letice turn there. That's good.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Wow, Hey you try selling seminary.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: Listen. I think it's a great pick.
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: I know probably a lot of people probably don't know
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: who they are, but they're a phenomenal band, and you know,
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: you know, I absolutely love this pick for sure.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: I think they're like an emo band's band too. You know,
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: you talk to people in emo bands, and you know,
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: Chris friend Drive is a name that comes up a
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: whole lot as far as bands every clinential. So yeah,
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: good pick, good pick.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: Next next is Jeremy I'm gonna go this guy's I'm
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: not gonna lie. He's probably a little obscure to some people,
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: but I think he is incredible. And I will say
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: on a side note, he's a vocalist as.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Well, seeing Rat Boys, he's not he's in Bad Boys.
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: No, he's uh, he's he's a singer as well, So
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: I think that was kind of in my mind out that, well,
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: the bass player.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Could have some background vocals be kind of cool.
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: Jeremy Chitlin from Jess Brazil and Handsome and cup Country
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: I love. I've always loved his vocals and his bass
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: playing and just Brazil is amazing. And then I'm a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: huge Handsome fan, so I think that was kind of
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: why I I went that route. I love the their
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: self titled records, one of my favorite records.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah you like their song umbob No, I do not.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: I do not like them, but I like Handsome. But anyway, yes, no,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: I know not many people know who he is, but
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: I think he's phenomenal. And he's got a solo record
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: called cup Country that was on Jade Tree that's amazing
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: as well.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: But yeah, sorry, yeah sorry, it's my little out of
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: out of left hill pick.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: No, I like that one because that's one that I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have I wouldn't have picked, you know, in any
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: of my thinking about a great basis. But man, now
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: that I now that you said it, I'm trying to
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: like think back on some of these great bass lines
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: and a lot of like really strong melodic structures that
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: that he really does hold down nicely. So I'm right
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: there with you, and I do have.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: One thing to say when you guys were saying not
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: many bass players one bass player that when you were
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: talking about how they don't come through an email, I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: thought Nate Mendel from Sunny Day Real Estate is a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: prime example of one that doesn't.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: And I didn't pick him because I don't want to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: pick to sny A reel lets take.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I think his tone does I don't necessarily know if
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: it's playing necessarily is like, you know, outrageous.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach, what do you think there, Zach Stemen.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: Well, that made Nate's my pick?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Well, there we go. Hey, look at that, Zach exactly.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: That was my fucking back there he got?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Is that?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: And that's for you, buddy?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: I think that.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: Actually, I think his tone is sets pretty. There's nothing
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: really about about his tone, but I think it's playing
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: kind of carries melody and every band that I've heard
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: him in, I mean, aside from like what I think
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: christ on a Crutch he was a nut band back
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: in the Day, but that was a hardcore band. In
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: terms of Sunny Day and then Foo Fighters, I mean
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: and both bands, I think he carries a whole lot,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: and I think in sun Day he sits a little
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: further back, and by that I mean sometimes he is
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: carrying the song. They don't realize that the work he's
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: doing melodically, And I love the style of play, but
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: not even even though are like where you know, he's
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: physically on stage things really cool bass player to watch.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: I agree with that part.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's that's my pick. And I'm so sorry Mason,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: because I was like, I was sitting on the fence
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: for for two bass players and if it's okay, I
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: can tell you the other bass player is gonna pick,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: but not I don't want to. I don't want to
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: stop on your pick.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: In though.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I was really I was thinking I was that close.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm gonna get I'm gonna be
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: able to get Nate so close, like literally, there's a
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: reason why Dave Girl picked off Nate from Sunny Day
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Real Estate. There's a reason why he was that good.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Because he wasn't because because he wasn't a drummer. Though
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: that's why.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Wow, sorry, the reason why I mean Will actually watching Will,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. There's a reason why didn't pick Will though,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: because still Aaron Gilespie's next level. But god, dan it,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I was so close to getting Nate. Oh god, I
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: was really thinking I was going to get the best
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: super group. All right, Well, I do think my backup
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: is pretty good, but he's no Nate, Uh my backup,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: and he himself is like lesser known. But the band
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I think is actually really carried by him in a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: lot of ways. Uh Tim Payne from Thursday, Yeah, I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: think I think what Thursday, Uh, just a rhythm section
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: alone from Thursday. Obviously we've interviewed Lincoln on his name
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: now from the Drummer and Thursday, who's it? Tucker Yeah, yeah,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, Tucker so good. Like, I just think
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: that rhythm section and Thursday is what really has carried
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: them through over the last twenty five years. And obviously
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: a big part of that is you know, Tucker, but
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: also the basis, uh, Tim is just really next level.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: And again I'm trying to assemble a band here that's
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: gonna like over the world. Yeah, that's actually gonna work.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: And So I think Tim from Thursday is a good
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: pick here just because I think Thursday Again as an
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: emo band has really been carried as like a rhythm section.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: And obviously Jeff is an incredible vocalist, you know, there's
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: there's reason why he should be one of consider one
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: of the better vocalists in the emo world. But yeah,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: just that rhythm section is one of the better emo
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: rhythm sections, I think so. And you guys can't argue
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: with me on this one because Tom himself says that
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Thursdays and.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's obvious.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, ti uh is my my basis,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: although I wish I would have gotten Nate, but Tim Paine.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Lindsay has had a bige old smile on her face
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: this entire time, and I'm curious what is going through
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: her head.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm just here for it. I'm like
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: googling like the different people in my head, like for
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: the different things. And I'm also kind of like, I
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: also checked NPR wants to make sure democracy hasn't died yet,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: so like that's where it's like, that's what's going on
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: in myst.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Who's burning our ballot box?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, exactly.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: But that's all right. Any other arguments against or any
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: arguments against Tim.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: I think here's here's an argument. Here's an argument.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: What's your argument, Colin?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I think, uh, I think he got the wrong guy.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: I think I think that's got the right guy.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with that.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Well, of course that got the right guy.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: Just be b league skidding.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: But for being the last round to get the second
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: round kind of pick, that's not too bad. No, But
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: here's the thing I mean calling, you're a Vikings fan.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: You wish that the Vikings could be picking people in
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: the fifth round that were second round value.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: Oh that's a deep one. I can't follow that one
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: about Minnesota's.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: They're just bad. That's the way it is.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: Today. Do have the walking taco thing going for you?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: So you know what, that's redeemable.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: It's true. I'm confused. Now, what do you mean we
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: have the walking taco thing going for us?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: I just know that that's kind of where that originates,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: doesn't it really?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Where you like open a bag of dorita calling Minnesota.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: This my friend's mom is from.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: But that's I didn't know what started in Minnesota.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, let me check the websitemo.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: It's just a it's got It's Tom behind this too.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, Tom's behind everything. It's like the worldwide scheme. He
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: started my space, the whole internet.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: It's all Tom. It's not Tom for my space. All right,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: all right, guitarist.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Guitarist Mason Eure up. Now pick a emo band this time?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Please pick multiple?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: So again I'm trying to assemble a band that actually
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: would make sense together.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I like how there are other I like how you're
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: pretending like we're not trying to do the same thing.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: You're structuring your argument as if we're not also trying
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: to make a band that will work together.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Well, that might be part of it. Also, I will say,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: I'll self admit in previous episodes I've only just picked
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: like the most popular artists. Yeah, okay, when I can.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to like, I'm actually trying to assemble
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: something that could actually remotely make sense.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: Fair enough.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: So again, this is maybe a lesser known name. And
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: you know, I mentioned Tim Payne before from Thursday. This
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: might be a lesser no name, but he has been
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: in two emo bands, or at least for sure one
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: that I think. Again, would work really well with Dustin Kent,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Strew's singing, Aaron Gillspie's drumming, and that is Alex Henry
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: from Basement and Fiddlehead. Oh, I specifically Basement just his
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: his his guitar playing, and Basement to me is like
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: quintessential Emo. It's able to like do like kind of
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: the more indie style Emo. But also I've like Basement
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: like people are stage diving and shit like he's able
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: to do like kind of the the more hardcore stuff.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: So he's like very versatile as a guitar player, as
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: an EMO guitar player. So yeah, Alex Henry or Henry
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: or however you would say, I'm not English, so I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: have no idea, but uh yeah, Alex is I think
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: just a really diverse guitar player. Obviously has his chops
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: and he's playing and he's played in Basement, played in
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Fiddlehead like he's got his chops, like he can do
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: the thing, and I think it just works well with
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: my band, So let's do Alex.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Who's your singer again? Can you remind me.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Dustin Kent? True?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, not a good pick man?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I like it.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's I know it's a little out
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: of left field, but no, I think he's gonna work
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: well with my band.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: We've had two out of four great picks. Nice job,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: all right, it.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Is, that's it.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: The Vikings have never had a draft like that. That'd
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: be nice.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: You need to you need to brush up on your
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Vikings draft history. All right, let's go back to Zach.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: Okay. I had so many that I kind of where
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: was going back and forth between and based on so
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: like kind of like mirroring Mason's kind of strategic logic.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Strict You're trying to create a band that would work together,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: that works.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think I think I get like part
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: of what what makes him saying, of course, and you know,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: just like some people, you wouldn't imagine the sound, however,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: you would imagine them sounding that maybe wouldn't work. So
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: I want to pick Bob Nana from in Hay Mercedes.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Ye whoa.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: I think that he would work well with the Blake
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: schwarzenbag vocal. He would and uh, you know Mike marsh strumming.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: So that's what I'm gonna pick. I think his style
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: of really unique. She in the hay Mercedes stuff. I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: really like what he does with chord structures and a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: lot of open chords and super hooky. Uh so, yeah,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Go with dude.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: I'd buy your I'd buy your Supergroups record. This sounds good,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: like for real, I'll be out in Crank next year.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: I love that. Yeah, man, I love bomb Man. He's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: a freaking man. He's so good.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: He's an incredible lyricist, credible musician overall, so influential too,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so is there okay, so I'm gonna walk
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: into it.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Though.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: Is there an objection based on the fact that he's
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: also a singer and both?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: I mean most, most of the most as long as
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: he's primarily a drummer in your band. You mean guitarist
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: or guitarist sorry, guitars my my whole Like I've got
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: drummer last on my little list thing. So that's why
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: I keep messing that up.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Good heck, no, great, great, great pick man. I think
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: that works really really well with with what you've assembled.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: No arguments here, I can tell Lindsay has an argument, though.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: No, I will say sorry, Bob Man is an amazing name.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: That's where I'm coming in.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: That's what that's funnily enough, that's what my son calls
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: bananas right now. He's only two. Yeah, Yeah, that's awesome.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: That's that's my only contribution. I heard the name, and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, that's amazing. I can't believe there's somebody
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: named that.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to hear your
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: son's like contribution.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: He would have also picked the same thing as Zach Jeremy.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: You're all right, I for entirely different reasons. Yeah, for
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: entirely different reasons.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: I had this guy picked out that I was going
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: to go with, but I just threw myself a curveball
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: and I'm going to go a different route.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick Josh Colbert from further seems forever.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: And oh wow, whoa.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: I had whoa, I had somebody else pick and I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 6: was literally like two seconds away from doing it.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: But the fact that no one picked Josh coar Beart
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: freaking blows my mind.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: No fun, you guys.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: Is literally one of the most talented people on this
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: planet musically, and I think you know, I'm a huge
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: strong arm fan. Happened for Ever and then Further of course,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: you know all all the stuff they put out, he's
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: and I've heard.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: From so many people that he's just the he's the reason.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: And you know, I love all those guys are so
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: incredibly talented, but he's just a primary songwriter in it.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: And you know, I think he's just a phenomenal guitar player,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: just super humble, super kind, and yeah, man, I literally
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: was going to pick somebody else, so which, yeah, I'll
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: tell you a letter who it was, which is probably
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: nobody even knows, but I just that's the one I
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: think I'm gonna.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: Go with absolutely, Jeremy.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Here's what I love about your pick is I was like,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Further Scenes Forever is one of
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: those bands where when I was thinking of like just
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: a group of like from a from a vocalist, guitarist, drummer,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: everything was like filtering through like what is like quintessential Emo,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: and to me, like Further Scenes Forever like kept coming
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: back to that of like bands that are heavier, that
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: can do the heavier thing, that can also do the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: indie thing, like they can do all the things that
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: EMO does best. Further Scenes Forever is one of those
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: bands that can do all of those things really really well.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: And so that's what I love about this pick. The
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: only thing, and this is a very minute argument against
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: it's super minute. The only thing I have against Josh
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: is I don't think Josh is the best person in
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: that band. To me, the best person in that band
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: is Steve, Steve the drummer. That that dude is next
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: level drummer, and that that's like not to take away
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: from your pick, just because like Steve as much as
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: like I'm very confident in the drummer I picked Steve
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: from further seems forever is literally to me, he is quintessential,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: like that is emo drumming. That's how it should be incredible.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: He is he is, He is the best person in
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: that band. And also everybody else in that band is
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: so good. That's like it's just one of those things
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: where it's like you're picking from like picking, but Josh
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: is great and Steve to me is like the only
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: argument against that is Josh isn't the best person in
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: that band. To me, Steve is. But you know, maybe
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: there's an argument against that.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: Mail Deck thank you guess Yeah, uh no, I think actually,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: I mean I think that Josh is an insane guitar player.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: And I've spent a lot of time listening to The
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: Moon Is Down in particular, just the guitar work on
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: that record. It's just one of for me when I
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: was listening and still even now listen to him just
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: kind of always wondering what he's doing, you know, not
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: that he's doing, it's always I'm just like, what is
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: he doing right there? And what are they doing together?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: Just a very is a It's a record I can
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: still listen to and just kind of fear things. I'm like, oh,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: that's really geez, what's going on there? And when I
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: see them play, it's just like it's still not computing.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: It's just's a weird experience to see them play. I'm
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: just like, this is like, how is everything working? Because
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: you know, it's just really strange. But I think that
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: that Moon Is Down record and How to Start a Fire,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: you know, an insane follow up to an insane record.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely, definitely, I would like all the listeners
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: to just reflect on what Zach just said, because that
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: is like from a musician point of view, a very
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: talented musicians point of view, as yourself Zach that I
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: think that's about as high of a compliment as you
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: can pay to someone else.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's in my band mailed it?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: You know whose band he's not in? May uh Unlet's
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: he have something to tell us, Zach? I know what?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: No, what?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: What would I have to tell you?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: That'd be pretty cool?
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, did you pick off one of those
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: further seams forever?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: Guys?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: No, what do you mean? What's going on? Pick off from?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: What do you mean?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know? Like, I mean, did did? Good? Old
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Jason Gleeson just like, oh, hey, Dave and Zach, Like,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: if you guys want to just have one of these
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: guys for an album.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: You know what, it would be insane to work with
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: Josh in the studio. I would probably be really shy
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: and just kind of sit back at first and just
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: you know, let him cook, as they say, but it
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: would be it'd be really cool to see something like
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: Josh and Dave.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 7: Work together, you know. And so yeah, for sure, I'm
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 7: gonna call I'll call Jason up and just see if
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: that can be arranged, make it happen.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: That'd be awesome. We're patiently awaiting that next May album.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: By the way, yes, I am too.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Oh good, Oh, I'm glad to hear. Okay, any news
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: you want to drop there.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: No, that wasn't meant to be anything. It's just like,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: okay for this record to come out too.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: Really like what's being made over there?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Some STU may m A E D.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: Wow, there has been some may still still more to
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: be made, but exciting.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Just waiting for Dave to get a ship together.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: Or what.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: It's like, you know, it's not that at all, Actually
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: I don't. I just want to know what Dave's doing
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: on now. We got back. We did these days with
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: Something Corporate, which were a lot of fun, and we're
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: really happy that they, you know, brought us out for
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: I think those five shows. I think I actually think
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: those seven shows all together. And we're still kind of
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: rooling from that.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: And then I'm in school and you know, you already
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: have a PhD.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: Though no, no, no, no, I'm getting my PhD currently.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: You already had it.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: No, I wish I already had it. You've been working
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: a lot easier.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I'm on my third year right now,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: so I've been in school for a long time. But
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: I've always I've split the school up with doing May
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: stuff and whatnot, so it's just been a while. The process.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Is your PhD in uh multi aesthetic experience?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: No, clearly, it's a cultural studies. It's gonna be focused
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: on music.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Cultural studies that that doesn't stand for EMO, but not aesthetic.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: I know what you know already have a PhD in EMO,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: an honorary degree if you will.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Wait, So.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Are you originally from Virginia.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: I'm originally from Florida, Central Florida, Florida.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, but like you know, May is known as
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: like a Virginia band, right correct, Okay, so a Virginia
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: band with a PhD. Guy, Now, obviously you're not from, uh,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: from Virginia, but Virginia PhD band. The only one that
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: I can think of that's like that is Gwar.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy, the lead singer from Gwar has a PhD.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: And they're from Richmond.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: I heard they are also some of the lawyers as well.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but I have heard about Gars. You
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: know that to mention of war, which you know, for
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: some reason people might not associate Gar with that kind
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: of thing.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and they I don't know why when you
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: think of Gwar, I can't imagine you not thinking PhD.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: But maybe that's I mean, it's high art. And they
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: also they're also entrepreneurs. They have a bar and Richmond
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: called the Gwar Bar, and if you're ever enrichment, definitely
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: stop in. It's a it's a cool place.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: They need a lawyer if you're in that band. They
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So the fact that they are lawyers
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: works out.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: It's all in the house, you know.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: Well, have you ever I've been on like the Reddit before,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: where like people will post their after pictures of a
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: war show and it's like, look at my eye after this,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: and it's like a like insect it and they're so
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: proud of it.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: That sucks.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: Not for them, it does.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: For sure.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: You know, you go home and you have blood on
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: your shirt from the show, but it's from killing Trump
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: on stage. Yeah exactly. And I've seen Guar twice. That
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: was a blaster on Yeah.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Virginia's for guars.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Nice mace. It's good too. Man.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: You're on a roll, all right, I have all right,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: I have no idea where we're going.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: I'm next. I think you all right, let's hear it, man,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: this one is tough for me, so I, as Mason
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: is also doing trying to put together a band that
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: I think would work really well together.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: So I.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of guitarists written down that I
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: think could go a number of different directions. But I
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: am I'm gonna pick the most chameleon of the bunch,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: the one that could really slither on in it and
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: and play any kind of style.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Oh slither in? And are you picking JK Rolling? Because
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: I wow, Colin that wow? All right, we just lost
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: the entire fame.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: I am not alt right, so I do not I
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: did not pick JK Rout, But I I'm going to
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: go for Sean Bergman of Appleseed Cast because I believe whoa.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Whoa, Okay, whoa what? All right, dude, just make your argument.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: I'll make my.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Make all right. Well, I think he's a chameleon. I
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: think he can play anything, and I think that he
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: fits well into what I want to do with this
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: wonderful supergroup.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: And uh I.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: I just I love the different textures and melodic elements
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: that he pulls together, and I think that he is
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: just perfect. So I don't think there is a negative
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: argument that can be made. So Mason, give it a shot,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: but good luck.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: My argument is that Sean has been in the band
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: for like what three years, four years? Five years? So
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: what so what? Apple has has been around for like
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: thirty and you're picking a guy who has been in
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: a band, that particular band for five years out of
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: their thirty year career.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: What does that matter?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: I think that matters a huge part of it. It's
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: like he's got five years, he's got one albums worth.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm I'm sorry. If you're in a band for
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: five years, you're not allowed to learn how to play
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: emo music? Okay from he's got one album?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: So what so what he's got one album? Which one
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: is he he's on their most recent one? But like see,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: he's got one album, so what's awesome? I think?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: I think Apple Seed Cast is definitely a amazing pick
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: as a band.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: And I yeah, they're amazing pick as a band. But
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: like him himself, that's all Chris, that's all Chris. That's
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: not him. Yeah, I was gonna say, I that's not
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: that's not Sean.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: When I think of a Cast, I think of the
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: original guitar player.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, the original guitar is obviously better. Yeah, but
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: I'm picking like current members, like members that are actually
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: still still.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Doing Okay, current members great, wonderful And also yeah, and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: honestly like the Last applesy Cast one of the best
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: albums that think, and that's why I pick.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: And also.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: And there's a good reason for it. It's a great
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: it's it's a great album. And also we're like there's like,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: like there's longevity here that we're at play and you're
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: just picking a guy who has been in a band
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: that has played one album and has done like what
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: two tours, So what that's that he's played. He's played
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: maybe sixty shows under this album.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I think he's great. So we're gonna go
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: You got fifty shows if you're lucky.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: I see the vibe opposition here. I don't. But in
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: terms of No Mason, are you saying that this seems
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: to be decute? Are you just kind of strongly critiquing.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: No, not dcute. It's just as like what in the world,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: like what pick are you? Okay, Okay, no, it count
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: counts as a pick. It's one of those where it's like, Okay,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: this should be like, this is a seventh round pick
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: that should have been undrafted.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, so he was like he was right on the cusp,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: is what you're saying.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like one of those picks where
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: it's like, all right, he could have been.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: Drafted, coming from coming from a fan of the forty
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: nine ers, who mister irrelevant is now your quarterback?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, it'd be it would be awfully nice
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: if my fifth round quarterback is now the best one there.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Sean Bergman is my rock party.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well, if you want to make your
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: argument that Sean Bergman is your brock Purty, have have it.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: You can have him. I'm alright with it. I I
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: literally have no like, I have no desire to want
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: to go back, and I have other I have other
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: guitars that I think are better, but not for the
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: band that I've created.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: That's fair, that's fair.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: And also I'm just saying it's a super group. Man,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: he's been he's been a one apple Seed cast.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: Album, but he ain't a one trick pony and you
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: can't argue.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: That he's great. And one apple Seed cast YEP album
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: and it's their best one out of what nine, that's
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: their best one.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: Hey, I'm fine with it.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: Hey, are there other examples where this would like be
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: a factor like other bands with the only.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Other factor I can think of for this particular album
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: is I still remember the first time I ever showed
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Culin one song from this album. Uh, Colin, we were
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: you were still living in Sioux Falls, and we were
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: down in that uh in your little like what was
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: that like your nineteen fifties bomb shelter, and you literally
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: like you literally I was was showing you the song
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: can You Stop? The album had just come like as
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: as the like as the crescendo was about to start,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: You're like, we need to listen to this on real speakers.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: And we went upstairs from your bomb shelter to real
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: like your your real like set up, and we listened
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: to it, and you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: That's my only argument, and that's because Sean is great
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: and also one applesa cast album.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I'm not I'm not trying to just
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: to like take anything away from you know, former members
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: by any means. I just think that what he did
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: fits what I want to do with this and I
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: think he's a chameleon. I think I think you can play.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: I think he's he can He's like he's like he's
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: like Johnny Greenwood almost.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just like it's blown away. Like
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: you have so many guitarists in the Emo I know.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: And again, like I said, there's better a guitarists I
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: could have taken you thank him?
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: All right, Okay, that's fine. Do you think who's next?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: All right, Lindy, Okay, I think I've got this. I
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: think I'm gonna go Robert McDonalds from Manchester Orchestra because.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait is Manchester? What does Tom say?
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: I swear to you, I'm like a virgin Losing a
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: child is an Emo album? That is an Emo album.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm sorry to say this, but I did
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: see them touring that album opening for brand New. Which
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: is problematic.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Is not does not say Manchester. But you know what,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: that's not a great way to determine this. What what
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: is Wikipedia?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Only because it worked out in the past.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go to Reddit emo Manchester or because they
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: will have opinion.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Not one of their top genres on Wikipedia either.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, but on the Emo subreddit, it says Southern fried
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: emo in my honest opinion, but they don't hit the
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: same marks as they used to. Okay, well, we're not
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: asking about that. We're going down. I refer to them
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: as Bible Belt email. That's a really good one. I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: would say some of their earlier what is Bible Belt emo?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: It's like southern gritty?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: What Bible Belt Emo?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: What is that gritty rock like with all the great Yeah?
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Is that Family Force five? No?
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: No, no no, I'm thinking more like Wednesday and like
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: those sort of like they're.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Manchester is an emo band, and I will.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm thinking Manchester is an emo band, but under
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: exactly Manchester way than under Oath.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: And also I don't accept bubble old EMAO before I
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: accept Midwest emo as a genre attack at this point, Well.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: It's good that I wasn't going with my original pick,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: because my original pick was the guitars from American Football, because.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: I liked that.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: I like the guitars with her voice, but I think
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: that she would also really like Julie Seiner would also
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: really shine with like they really gritty, like I'm thinking Pride,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: and I'm thinking sort of like all of everything to
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: nothing in the first few albums. I'm not saying like
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: the later albums, That's not where I'm coming in.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: I'm saying that these I can't imagine thinking simple Math
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: is not an emo record, and I imagine thinking, you know,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: I mean all of Manchester's records. They have a record
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: called Cope for God's Sake, I mean, like that is
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: an emo record, And I don't.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: Know this is one of the record called their only
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: Change in Safety.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: That's not that doesn't count.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: That doesn't sound emo to you at all, out at all.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: That that's like this, that's fictional.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: I can't if you think the ever Glow sounds like
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: an emo record, but they're only chasing safety, isn't look
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: I I would really, well, we're going off of off
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: ever Glow versus they're only chasing safety.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: If you want to make if you want to make
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 5: the argument that May is not an emo band, be
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: my guest, like that's fine, you know, And also, like
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: you know, Poison the Well has like super emo titles
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: of their songs, and I wouldn't necessarily call them an
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: emo band, Like like, I don't know, your metrics are
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 5: really wild to me. I'm just saying that under is
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: not an emo band.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, for real. Aaron Gillespie played fucking Miley Emo Night.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: He played Miley Cyrus at Emo Knight. Come on?
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: Is the not real? Is there not room in God's
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: bake Emo tent for all the under Oaths and the
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: Maze and a Manchester Orchestra.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: It's like I'm just saying the backyard is only so
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: far to play football.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: Gates are there for a reason.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: I will say it's only fifty yards across, fifty three
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: yards across and one hundred yards. There's only so much
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: room to play football. Lindsay, there's only there's only so
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: much room to play American American football.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: This doesn't sound like liberation theology. I haven't studied it
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: in depth, but it just feels like.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: Also, Mason, it sounds like you're believing in some universal truths?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: Are you sure you are?
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: There?
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Modernists tables?
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: I'll like say that I understand the argument or the
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 5: position you have, Mason, I just don't. I just don't agree,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: and I you know, I don't know. I'm just when
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: I think of under Oath, I think of like Ten's guitarists.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: That are just like the hardest, like you know, most
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: the hardest Emo risks you've ever heard in your life.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, Remember how we asked the question earlier.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: Bible belt Emo, the almost is Bible belt Emo. I'm
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: going to firmly classify them as Bible belt Emo.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: Fair enough, and I don't have I have listened almost
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: enough to even make a make a claim on whether
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: or not that they would be considered emo in my
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: in my world.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a personal problem. Uh here, here's the thing, Lindsay.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: I clearly I'm less of a gatekeeper than Zach Is
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: because I would absolutely consider Manchester Orchestra as an EMO man.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: I said that too, So you get Manchester as an
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: EMO guitarist.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks so much, thank you for your approval.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, Lindsay, I went to go see Jimmy
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: you World for the very first time.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a great You're not bringing this
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: up again, Red Rocks, And I was not bringing this
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: up again.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna throw you under the
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: bus on this one, Mason, because I could. You could
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: have just edited out like a bitch. So what I
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: what I was gonna say is Manchester Orchestra was opening
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: for one of what they were. I think they're actually
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: like double headliners with Jimmy Eat World, and uh, I
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: was obviously I was there for Jimmy World. I flew
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: halfway across the country or my country to get there.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: And I was very very very very very excited for
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Eat World. And I've always liked Manchester Orchestra, never
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: loved them. After watching them live right before Jimmy World,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: I was like, one of the best. Was that was
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: just far and away a better performance than Jimmy World. Yeah, definitely, no, no, no,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying from my personal experience, like, yeah.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: It was transcendent in multiple ways. Jimmy World was absolutely amazing.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not taking anything away from Jimmy World. They are
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: literally on my mount rushmore of bands mm hmm. But live,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: I was so blown away by Manchester Orchestra, especially at
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: Rocks where I watched them.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm gonna say that, Like I think that
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: you can classify like there's Manchester Orchestra on album and
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: then there's Manchester Orchestra life like I wat yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: whenever I see them, great thing. Yeah, whenever I see
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: them live. I understand fish people where it's like I'm
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: going to follow you all around the country. I'm going
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: to see you all the time. It's them in Foxing
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: like I had made it a pact and I saw
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: them together.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: Too, and that was like, you didn't have to bring
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: fish into this. I know.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: But I'm like saying, I understand the people who like
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: travel across the country like watching this band or never
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: like I would not have y'at not had I not
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: seen Manchester Orchestra. But they're my stitch.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: I just imagine fish with legs and briefcases walking around
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: and talent.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: There you go, Jeremy, that's good.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: No, I I think that Manchester is one of the
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 5: better bands live I've seen in recent years. I saw
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: him at the Norabah and I saw him in Philadelphia
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: on that same Jimmy World tour, and there's perfect there's
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 5: just like a perfect live experience.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: I think they're playing with Thrice right now.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: They know how to pick them. That's good, that's good.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, hey that concludes the drafting. But now
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: wait what I mean, what that's it?
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, picked Bitter Sweet Mason.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: But that is right, you're right. You're right. I picked
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: I picked my people.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: So we are.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: We're at the point where we're going to tell everybody
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: what our band names are.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: Yep, oh boy, lindsay you are first.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: Oh no, okay, I'm gonna say right away, this is
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: not a good name that. I think that a lot
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: about having an emo name is saying it with confidence,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: like I'm going to say a detraction park. No, no, no, no,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: no no no, I'm taking no one back. Actually, the
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: Marrissa Coupertinos, No, I take it Backtinos.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: What's the Mercica Patino's.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: Marissa Coupertinos. It's not a good name. I didn't say that.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: I never said that, but it is a name.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: So I think here's here's how we'll judge it. Okay,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: if you were to bring it up in conversation, as
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: if you were trying to be like the hipster of
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: the group, would it sound believable? Oh yeah, the Marissa Carpertino's, Absolutely,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: it sounds believable if you were if you were to say, like,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, have you heard of Marissa Capertinos. Their
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: hips are trying to like pretend like I'm in the
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: in group. I'd be like, oh, yeah, for sure, they're
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: really great, and you'd be like, hah, you idiot, they're not,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: you fool. That's so it's a good pick. Okay, well
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: we're gonna say next. Sorry I cut you off.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: Oh no, that's just kind of what I'm gonna say. Like,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: I'm just I was going through all my like the
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: recent emo bands that I've heard of. I'm like, yeah,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: Ben Claude, you have Karl Cosgrove or it's just like
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: sort of just conglomerations of different names. And I think
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: that the Merci Coupertino's work. And also it helps me
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: like and it helps me bring up my love of
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: the OC.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: So great call, great Call, I'm next. My band name
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: is Canadian Tuxedo and I like it because you know,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: Canadian Tuxedo. I think it's great. It's a little bit cheeky,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: but it's also it's like it it took.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: Me all right, So what's goa band?
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: What b did you get? Did you get leon or
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: involved in this or what?
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: No, I think I like.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's a good name. You know, a lot
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: of a lot of almost was gonna do Canadian hockey
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: just to make a meme off of like American football
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: or modern baseball. But I decided Canadian tuxedo is actually
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: the better way to go, because who doesn't love a
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: good denim jacket and blue jeans, you know? Oh yeah,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: you know I dig it. Yeah, all right, good, let's go,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: Jeremy Man.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 6: I came up with this name the other day when
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 6: I was like trying to make my list of people,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: and then while we were sitting here talking, I made
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 6: up two more names, and so my first name it's
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 6: really long, and I apologize, but I kind of tried
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 6: to incorporate all the artists that I used in it,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 6: So Pinkman, clarity of handsome, rhyming futures. It sounds like
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 6: had nineties EVO records, it was. But then I thought
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 6: about and then I thought about Primo, like the R E. M.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 6: Jesus and we were talking about PhD. I thought about
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: phdmo oh.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like if I feel like, if you're a Primo,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: you would have to tour with Primus so that you
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: could get like that like you know that funny like
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: Google Google representation where people were confusing you with Primus
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: and they were ending up listening to your band on accident.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: I can.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Zach.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: Well, I have two. One is white Light Mezzanine.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good name. Do you say white Light Mezzanine.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 5: Yes. And I'm looking at this book over here and
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: this new salary new book is called Inner messo. Oh
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: and that's the cool And I tried to just I
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: was going to use that, but I thought that was
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: kind of cheating, So I just picked up white Light
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: Mezzanine and.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: Inner Mezzo sounds more like a post rock band. So
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you want with white Light Mezzanine.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'll take it. And also maybe the Wu's two
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: v's to address SEO issues. I don't know if that's
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 5: the even thing that you do with something like that. Yeah,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: but that's the name I'll go with. The other name
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: was Crooked Intellectual, but I got that from the the
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: Wu Tang name generator. It's actually crooked Alligator intellectual. But
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 5: I'm not that's a full name.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. That's good. That's good, all right?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: Mason, oh Ship, where did h my name go?
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: Did you generate this through through AI?
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: No? I was just not kind of human Do you
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: think I am?
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: I think use I think you're someone that would use
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: AI like you do for most of your tweets.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: Oh I no, I found it all right? Great.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: I like how you didn't deny that. Do you actually?
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: So I forget tweet my band. Well, just to give
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: a little recap my band, Dustin Cantrew as vocalist, Alex
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: Henry from Basement as guitarist, bassist Tim Payne from Thursday,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Aaron Gillespie as my drummer. My band is called the Mystery.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, good luck trying to google that ship.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 5: That's gonna be.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be about over over oath. That's gonna be
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: about as easy as searching up May.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: If the band gets good enough, is going to get
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: good enough.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: If the band gets good after you guys are going
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: to be competing for the name by the band Mystery.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Mystery. Yeah? Is it the Mystery or Mystery?
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: It's Mystery and they've got a pretty sick.
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  Speaker 2: Mason. You failed on all fronts on this One's uh
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: not not se o uh, it's already taken and it's.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: A bad Are you kidding me? You're telling me that?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: Eric Gillespie is not going to seo out the mystery.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's the most generic word possible, the mystery.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, put in.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: This name. You're putting in better lovers right now, and
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get fucking Dillanger escape plan right now.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: I will say that I think that the name alone,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: on the name alone, you would attract an audience, and
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: that audience would be two thousand and three fourteen year
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: old boys trying to act mysterious and like trying to
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: take up girls.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: Well, they're not fourteen year old boys anymore. They're forty
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: three year old boys who have money.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: No, it's kind of like Kevin O'Leary when he said
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: that Manny, where's the man? You get?
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 5: Spell it mystery, m I s t r y the mystery.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you change it up.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: How about you pick up how you pick ask me
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: how to spell it?
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: Just pick a better name. What was what was your
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: number two?
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Mason, it's miss it's the mystery together.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: What was your second name? Like, what was your second choice?
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a second, of course you did.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: Piss poor practice.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: Mystery all one word. It's all one word.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 5: Oh I get.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: It's one word culling. You just put the mystery one
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: word like that is going to know what that What that.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: Means then is it's it's they history or them them?
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: Them is the master.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: It's like the either.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: I think we can all agree that Mason had the
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: worst band name. So that's good, all right? Good? Well,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: hey that concludes it.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: I think uh, I think the listeners needed to tell
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: us who they think has the best band. Yeah, and
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: let's go, let's get this going in the comments. I
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: don't know, what do you think?
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, the best band?
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know, because that's a little unfair.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, I don't know. My youth group is
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: pretty good. My youth group worship band was tricked to
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: goody that sucks.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: I did have a band called May but with a why.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: Oh well, everyone go to what ismay dot com and
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: sign up not what is May why?
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: But what is May?
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 5: Sonny? What was mad?
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: Do you have a bunch of people that are like
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: really curious about like what the month like after April
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: is like? Is that like they're like, oh wait, wait,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: what is Oh it's not it's not like oh it's
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: the month after April. That's what. That's got to be
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: a thing that happens, right, I what is April?
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 5: What is maybe? I mean, I don't know, it's what
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: is month?
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: What is life?
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: What is a month?
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 5: You stuck me?
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: What what is May? Oh it's thirty days not thirty one?
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: What is Julian calendar? This is weird.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: Just this is weird.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: It's a multisensory aesthetic experience.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: You know, it's true.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, well, hey, thanks everybody. May Uh, this is
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: a blast. I always love doing these, I know, Mason does.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: Do you have any to say? Mason?
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, it's always fun to just hang out with some
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: friends and uh just talk shit and de bait about things.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: Because honestly, I'll be honest, this is what Colin and
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: I do, regardless uh, whether things are being recorded or not.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: So you just get to like actually be a part
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: of what Colin and I do generally. Yeah, and now
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: this is what you know, This is what you gotta do.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: I have a suspicion that you guys probably do that
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: part with your friends as well.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: Right, yes, and much much more heated. I think we're
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 5: actually pretty civil tonight, considering.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you're lucky. We're in different rooms because
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: it could. That's true, because let's be honest, if Lindsay
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: was in the same room with us, we wouldn't be
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: making it now alive right now. Yeah, she did major
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: in wrestling and I didn't.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: Major in wrestling. I had a wrestling scholarship to a baptism.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: She had wrestling scholarship. Sorry, she would kick our ass
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: wrestling right now because she was paid to wrestle in college.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: But you know what Livesey probably would do by the
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: end of it, She'd probably makes him really kill her ass.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: Sourdough bread afterwards.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't made zardo in a while. I gotta
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: be honest.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: All I remember is like I watched your Instagram stories.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: You're always making like great food, and I'm like, gosh,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: that sounds awesome.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 5: Sourdo is a cool band name.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: That would be a guard sourdough.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: The sourdough experience better than American football, way better than
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: may Oh.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: It just like clicks off. He's like out, no, no,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 5: maybe it is a great band name.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: I think it is the Demons, though Demons I don't think.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: I don't think Demons is a good band name. It's
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 5: it's I appreciate it. It's demonic and it's a little
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: it's still too on the nose.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: But.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: It's funny. None of you are demons, so it's not
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: really on the nose.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: I like one syllable band names.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they work really well.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach, I don't know if I ever told you,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: but I named my daughter.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: My daughter's my name is May after the band.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: Oh that's, oh my god, very sweet. We're trying to
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: avoid that the entire time. We were trying to avoid that.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: No, that's awesome.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: It really is my daughter.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: Oh lady, don't tell me one of your kids's name
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: like Emery.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: You guys, myself, Okay, you guys are gonna.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: Your oldest name is under Oath.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: No, it's Dillinger. He's twenty three years old. So I
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: was one of the first.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: And then my my middle.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: My son's other son's name is Branson.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: So look at that Missouri music and.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: What's that for?
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: What after Missouri?
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: I love Richard.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: Billionaires.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: I there Owen as well?
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: Oh Owen. Uh, well, you know it can't be as
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: bad as like. My son's middle name is Luke, and
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: my grandmother thought that it was after Luke from the Bible,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: and I was like, no, it's after Luke Skywalker.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: That's how we have a We have a son named Calvin,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: and we had a lot of people think it was
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: John Calvin and we're like, no, that well, technically, I
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: guess because it's.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 5: My cat's name is Ellie at Hobbes And for Calvin
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 5: and Hobbes, I thought you were going to say Thomas Hobbs. No,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: but again, technically it's kind of like the same thing
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: because Calvin and Hobbs. Yeah, but it's the best comic
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 5: of all time.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: I would call him Leviathan point.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: He's no.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: I would name my cat Soren if I got another cat,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 5: if it was a boy cat that's good friend and
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 5: his son's name sworn.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: I don't actually like that name. That's a good name.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: That'd be a good that'd be a good EMO band name.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: Soren Soren sore In. Yeah. I think so, all right.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: I think we should just keep naming kids honestly. Comment
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: and fits into comments and we'll name them for you.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: Zach's gotta good.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: What what's the like?
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: What are the the people in the Bible that are
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: like really big? I don't why I'm thinking of them.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: Number one, Jesus is pretty big.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like no, like they're like physically like they're not.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 5: Like the giant Philistines.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: No, not to phil they were like the Nephelin.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was what are you trying to say?
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: What I'm just trying to think of like children's names.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: Let's go the first chapter of Matthew. You just like
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: scroll your finger down and boom.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: All right, we're be theird place to go.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: You know, if you're if you're like fundamentalist enough, like
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: Nephelin might be actually like an appropriate name for your boy.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: Spends depends on how much you support Trump. So all right,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: all right, well uh all right, Uh here's the thing.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: I love EMO. All these folks love Emo, including people
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: that drink gallon.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: Watch your drugs, Jesus, what he's going to be hydrated
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: for a three.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: You're just drinking like gallon. I'm the last time I
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: saw that was somebody who was really into uh imagine dragons.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: So I'll just do Hey, Mason used to do that
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: back in college, just like you.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: No, well, there's a reason why I liked what I liked,
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: So you.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: Didn't like imagine dragons in college.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Zach is you you are wearing
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: a jersey. You don't have to drink things out of
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: a container as if you wear a jersey.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 5: I don't understand this association you're making.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: It all feels very sporty.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 5: Sporty.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: I'm going to put gallon of water into traits of
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: men who work out in converse advance.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: That's fine. You know why a gallon. Here's why I've
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: got on the water. This is when I when I'm
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: in Stirling, Virginia for school. I don't like to make
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: myself feel too homey because I don't want to. I
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 5: want to go home, and so I keep water up
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 5: here so I don't have to go out of the
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 5: kitchen and get water. I want to have something to
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 5: drink while I'm up here without having to go down
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 5: or refill it. So I have a I don't normally
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 5: drink water from gallons, from gallon jugs.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: I have it here because I can stay hydrated and
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: not go downstairs to get water.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: I think it can be hard.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: The point.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 5: The point is a circumstantial.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: Artist and emo guy has ever been I think it's.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: Luxuries of modern capitalism.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: Oh, I see what you're doing.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: Like it's like Chris Carabo level, like, oh, you can
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: just drink water whenever you want. Mhm, Like, oh, I
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: didn't realize. We're all in dashboard confessional. We just have
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: water whenever we want.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 5: You know what on earth is.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: Talking about either.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying water seems like a luxury, and uh,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize May was well Mason.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: For some water is a luxury, you know. Luckily that's
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 5: that's not for me yet, but because about it, that's true.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's finish this up. So, uh
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: you know what, Emo's great. We're all big fans of it. Uh.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: I love I love like arguing about Emo. I love
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: arguing about any music genre. And uh this is just
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: you know, fun. It's fun to hang out with friends
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: and uh just argue about music. And uh, you know,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: even though I understand that I won, uh you know,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: it's great to get the last word and shout out this,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: uh this episode and uh you know understand that I won.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: So thank you all for understanding that I win. And uh,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: you know, thank you all for listening to an episode
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: like this where you know I get to win, so thank.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: You, Luxury of helme Man.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: Last words, thanks for having me. Yeah, thanks for having
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 5: me to thank you one