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Sharks Disagree on Woke Benefits · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Start your day with Wes. You're listening to the West Carol Morning Show.
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Thursday morning, fifteenth day of June. I'm Wes. Thanks for joining me.
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Halfway through June. Here we are halfway through the month, almost halfway
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through the year. That's the way this is working out. Just zipping right
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along, that's what we're doing. I want to talk about a cartoon that
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my kids used to watch, but I won't talk about that just yet.
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I'll get to that in just a minute because it's part of the story.
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The overall narrative that I want to talk about today certainly is kind of interwoven
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into this story about this kid's cartoon. But I want to start with talking
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a little bit about this. I guess a little back and forth that's now
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happened between Mark Cuban and Kevin O'Leary. They're sharks, you know, on
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the Shore Tank Show. It's not what it's called. It's called Shark Tank,
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but be fun of it's called the Shark Tank Show, isn't it.
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So they've had a little back and forth now because the issues that have come
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up with some of the and we knew this part would would be coming eventually.
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We had some companies that have been called out or questioned at the very
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least about their wokeness levels. Some people don't like when they feel like the
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woke thing is only for certain people to use. They think the Karen thing
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is only for certain people to use, and they think the woke thing is
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only for certain people to use. So we had this whole situation with anheuser,
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Bush and bud Light. Don't have to rehash it. You know what
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happened. They put a transactivist and influencer on a can of bud Light or
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six cans of bud Light and sent them to this influencer and said, here,
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this is an honor of a year or whatever it was, of you
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living as a girl, as a young girl, or being a girl,
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what it was an adult man living as a girl. I don't I don't
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know really what that means exactly. But it's neither here nor there. Okay,
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it's it's Dylan Mulvainy is the influencer's name, and it's Dylan Mulvaaney's business.
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Right, whatever you want to do, knock yourself out. It is
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concerning when you start using the word girl. I have questions about that.
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I have concerns about that, but overall, as far as I'm aware,
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you know, it's just there's no criminal activity involved. It's just, you
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know, there's just a few things that make you kind of raise an eyebrow.
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You just kind of go, wait what. But that's beside the point.
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Dylan Mulvaaney gets the cans, post them on social media and people immediately
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go, wait a whise Budweiser and bud Light. I guess Anheuser Busch teaming
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up with a trans influencer as part of this endorsement thing that the company has
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been doing. And clearly this was a marketing an issue that should have been
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covered more thoroughly in marketing because it's cost the company, I don't know,
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billions of dollars. It's it's been an absolute wreck, and they've let people
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go, careers have been ended, and then they made some sort of an
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attempt at trying to do right by their customer base that of course, this
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is not their representation that's on the can of beer. So they try to
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do something right by them, and they upset ultimately the LGBTQ plus community.
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So they've they've now just upset everybody, and that's kind of where they are.
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So we've had I guess Garth Brooks is one of the people who's come
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out and defended it or said, you know, we can have all kinds
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of beer at my shows, which that's I didn't read the full statement.
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I don't really care. It's not. As I've said before, I don't
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know the last time I bought a bud Light in any capacity, so it's
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not like for me. It's something where I'm thinking, Man, I've got
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to make a decision about which beer I'm gonna buy. It's not typical.
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I'm much more likely to buy, you know, an Irish whiskey or something.
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But anyway, Jill likes the Mike's Hard Mango. We're more likely to
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buy that than we are any type of beer. So that's fine. The
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people who said I don't want bud Light at my concerts or at my events,
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they are within their rights to do that. Garth Brooks is within his
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rights to do whatever he wants to do with it. So that was followed
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by some other companies doing things target with the swimsuits that are for I guess
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men transitioning as women, or at least dressing as women. They called them
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tuck friendly swimsuits and they put them out in front of the store for people
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as you walk in to see them, and people said, what are you
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doing? Target? What's going on here? There's been questions about Chick fil
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A and them just hiring a person years ago to be involved in their diversity
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equity and inclusion from a company standpoint, and we address that on the show.
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This is not something to me that jumped off the page, and what
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is Chick fil A doing? It sounds to me like, as a corporation
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that works in these United States, when some states have laws in place for
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diversity equity inclusion, Chick fil A probably should have someone on staff that is
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in charge of that since these are laws in some states. That seems to
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be what's going on at Chick fil A. But still it was enough to
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get some people really worked up. I guess Cracker Barrel they painted some of
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their rocking chairs out in front of the Cracker Barrel locations that put some rainbows
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on them. People didn't like that. Some people got upset. It's a
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number of things, and these aren't the only companies. We went out for
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burgers kind of recently at a place that we often will pop in too,
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And it was still in May, and they already had people wearing their Pride
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month t shirts and things. They jumped the gun on it, but they
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were already on it. But that again, if the companies want to do
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it, that's what they want to do. Some people don't like it,
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some people do like it. Some people want to boycott anybody who's doing it.
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Well, Mark Cuban, who in a red robin, that's the place
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that we were eating, the burgers that had the short I don't mind telling
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you that. In case you want to make your decision, there's something you
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want to do. So Mark Cuban defended this whole woke thing for companies.
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Didn't just defend it. He says, it's a good thing. He says,
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there's a reason almost all the top ten market cap companies in the US
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can be considered woke. It's good business, he says, call me woke.
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You don't need to call it d ei. You can call it whatever
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you want. I call it good business. It means taking the people that
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you're selling to and making sure your workforce looks like them, and making sure
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you can reflect their values and being able to connect to that that's what works
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for me. So I think this is slightly different, and I understand that
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there's going to be different ways people interpret these statements, but I don't think
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it's necessarily a bad idea from a marketing standpoint to understand all of the people
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that you're marketing too, that all of the people that you are dealing with
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when it comes to your client base. Company that I used to work for,
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okay, that was a very large radio company, there was an issue
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at one point in the company where and it was common for most of my
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radio career to refer to R and B hip hop, black gospel, that's
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the name of the format. Those formats of music referred to as urban formats,
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and often in meetings and discussions that we would talk about our urban stations
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and are non urban stations, And at some point the company decided we're going
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to get rid of this term urban. I don't even remember what they replaced
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it with. It wasn't something that really was enforced at the local level in
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that regard. No one really cared locally, no one took offense to it,
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no one was upset by it, but it was something that the company
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felt it was important to do, at least in larger markets. I don't
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know what possessed it. I don't know where it came from. I don't
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know who they thought that they and they may have reverted back to the old
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terminology. I don't know. I don't know how much it held up.
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But the point is here you have Mark Cuban saying that being able to make
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sure your workforce looks like your customers and that you can reflect their values,
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being able to connect to them, that's what works for me to be able
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to say that it's a good idea for businesses to be woke. It all
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kind of depends on how you're defining the woke thing. What bud Light did
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was a big risk taken there and trying to show how woke they were,
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and it did not pan out. Well. You're trying to, according to
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Cuban's words, you know, you're selling to the people that you're selling to,
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not necessarily the Dylan mulvaney's of the world. That's not their core group
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of customers. So O'Leary, Kevin O'Leary, another shark from Shark Tank,
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mister Wonderful whatever they call him, he said that that's just wrong. He
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says, when you're Disney, or you're a beer company or your Target,
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you have customers of every kind, Republicans, Democrats, gender specific or gender
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neutral. It doesn't matter. You want to sell everybody everything all the time.
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When you get involved in partisan issues, you basically lose fifty percent of
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your customers. And that's exactly correct. That's exactly what we've been saying here
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on this show for quite some time. Why would you alienate half of your
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customer base. Why would you do that? Why would you put yourself in
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a position? He went on to say, why would you do that when
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you're a consumer goods or service company? It makes absolutely no sense. It's
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exactly it. That is exactly it. And in reference to Disney, this
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was an interview that he did I Guess on Fox News. He says,
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their role talking about Disney, Target, and nan Huser Busch, their role
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is not to educate society on the social issue of the day. They're learning
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that very quickly. And in the case of business, you can measure it
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by the second when their public, by the second when they're public, by
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the stock price. It's a little bit worded strangely. He says, when
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you lose nine dollars, ten dollars, eleven dollars twelve I'm sorry, nine,
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ten, eleven, twelve billion dollars of your market cap. You know
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that you've offended somebody and that person is your customer. That's bad business.
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That's really bad business. All of that is exactly right. Why would you
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alienate half of the customer base? And why would you alienate a company like
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anne Heiser Busch more than your customer base for a very small contingency of customers
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that you're trying to court. I still maintained that I think Anne Heiser Bush
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thought that they were going to be able to kind of slip that by.
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I don't think that they anticipated it would blow up the way that they did.
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So what does all this have to do with children's TV programming? Now?
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We know that Disney has gone above and beyond trying to do what they
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can to let everyone know how woke they are. They had a producer on
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a meeting that publicly admitted that, you know, the company didn't seem to
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mind that she was inserting her queer agenda into programming for teens and preteens as
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someone working on shows on the Disney Channel. Something that I still think should
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have concerned more people, but I don't know that that really got as much
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attention as it should have. Now there's another show, and this is one
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that is not affiliated with Disney in any way. It is a spin off
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show of a show that my kids watch when they were young, and this
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is through WarnerMedia. WarnerMedia Kids and Family I Guess is the specific. So
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this is part of the Warner Group. This is something I Guess that airs
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on Cartoon Network and it airs on the I Guess Max app because it's part
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of the HBO Max group. Was formerly called So the show that my kids
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watch was called Wee Bear Bears about a grizzly bear, a panda, and
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a polar bear who were friends. It was really good, really well done,
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really well put together. My kids liked it. I didn't mind watching
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it with them. It's one of the keys to parenting is when you find
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those shows that you can sit there and watch with your kids and find it
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entertaining. There's a spin off show. It's called Wee Baby Bears. They
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introduced this idea of having them as kids and it's the same sort of thing
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that they did, you know, Muppet Babies. Disney Babies. They had
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these little you know, rugrats, They had all these different shows about babies.
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Those the idea they were going to have baby versions of these same characters
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voiced by different actors. Well, apparently the season premiere, season two premiere
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of Wee Baby Bears getting ready to come out in a couple of days on
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the seventeenth, and it is it will feature two non binary characters who use
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they them pronouns. So the episode season one premiere called Polly's New Crew will
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There's one character in particular who introduces themselves. I am the Great Winifred.
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She her actor extraordinaire, declaring the pronouns that the Great Winifred likes that she
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likes using the pronoun and then the bears, the Little Babies introduce their box.
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They have a cardboard box. Who's one of their friends. Let it
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sink in, it's a cardboard box. Apparently the cardboard box is a significant
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character in the series because it's the imagination box. They get in the box
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and it takes them all these places, like where they meet characters like Polly
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and Winifred and whoever else. So the box, they say, uses they
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then pronouns and they make an exceptionally good keiche. So they've given pronouns gender
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neutral. They then pronouns to a cardboard box with a star on the side
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of it, and I guess the star talks or I don't know, makes
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a keish apparently, but the box is the character. That's the box.
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The name of the character is box. Next there's a character named Polly.
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I guess who the episode is named after. Who says, oh, that's
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great, I use. They then pronouns also. So this is for small
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children. This isn't programming for preteens. This isn't programming for m This isn't
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programming for teens. It's not preteens. It's not teens. This has aimed
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at very very young children. This is um This is for the kids that
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are specifically not to be targeted in Flora, in Georgia, in places that
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have these laws in place where it's not slated for classrooms to be targeting these
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But this is a way. Again, you do it in programming, you
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do it. And I mean I saw the clip. It seems very out
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of place and a children's TV show. As a parent, I see it.
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I don't find it offensive. I just find it fitting into this category
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of is it in the best interest for something where you're trying to gain viewership,
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where you're trying to get people to watch the show, get their kids
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to watch the show specifically, Now, our parents going to turn their kids
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loose and say, hey, it's the Wee Baby Bears. Let the kids
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watch it and not really pay attention. Or are they going to sit there
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with their kids and watch it and have to have a conversation about what that
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means? Or is it just go over the kids heads? Do they just
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hear it and move on and don't think anything about else about it? Back
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to the previous conversation, I think that Kevin O'Leary is exactly right. I
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think that this idea of trying to change the world, trying to push a
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social agenda when it comes to business, you're you're alienating your opportunity to have
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people of all types enjoy your cartoon that's made for small children, to drink
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your beer, to go into your department store, Tom, you know,
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go to your restaurant and eat your pancakes and play your little peg game,
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and you know, you're you're just creating this dynamic where you're you're turning people
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off, and you're turning them away in the name of trying to make one
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small group very very happy with you. Now, does it surprise me that
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someone in Hollywood has done it with a kids show? No, not at
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all. I think that it should have been eye opening for us when the
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producer at Disney said, Oh, I sneak this stuff in everywhere I can.
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I do it all that I can and Okay, and they still work
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there, by the way, they're still doing it. And if your kids
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are watching Disney Channel, they're subjected to it. Is it going to cause
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a problem? Is it a long term problem? Is it something that you
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should be concerned about? You should at least know about it, shouldn't you.
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of drinking and beer at concerts and things, gen Z apparently not drinking as
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with gen Z compared to shows that centered on audiences that are older. So
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that's interesting that that is a trend that is happening with gen Z. We'll
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see how long that maybe lasts or if that becomes a thing of the past.
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screen. All right, So a couple of things. First of all,
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I'm typically pro theyre being you know, pet friendly places like restaurants don't mind
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it typically, Or the pets are going to behave themselves. You know,
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the idea of a well behaved animal in a business or on an airplane,
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any of those things, that's all fine with me. I don't know of
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a scenario where I would want to go to the movies and take my dog.
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I love my dog. I like having lots of experiences with my dog,
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but watching a movie with my dog doesn't sound fun to me. I
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don't know, he's not that kind of behaved dog, and he's not one
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of those dogs. It's gonna just sit in a little crate and watch the
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movie. He's gonna want to see the other dogs. He's gonna want to
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